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Good evening. Good evening. Good evening, everyone. Well, go ahead and put pretty much probably jump right in and got a nice little space going on. If you haven't already, take a second, tweet the room out, getting ready for a good little conversation. I'm excited to have this one. I'm always excited for our conversations, but excited for this one as well. I'm feeling like I see big galleries in there. I'm feeling a little bit like him. I feel like this is a a question he might ask.

And kind of already been on the on the same vein, I think that he's been talking about but I'm excited. Let me take a moment to intro the space again welcome. This is onaji you presents the comments. I'm boss 2.0, Dean of communications at Onaji University. If you are not familiar, everybody's in here. It's it's familiar with us. So it's good to see you guys in today. The question that I am asking take a moment to just kind of ponder this in your brain.

Do we take NFTS too seriously? I've got I kind of know my answer.

OK. Let me know his answer a little bit early on. I'm on the timeline. I would love to know yours and just a couple of other questions that I've got, I would love to hear, hear, hear your input on so.

Again, welcome. Give me just one second. I'm gonna grab some water and then we're gonna drop it.

OK, I'm ready to take off if you are.

Those emojis up if you're ready for a little conversation. I'm excited for it if you are.

Oh OK, so do we take NPC's to seriously? I asked this question because lately in the space I have been feeling like we do.

I feel like it's a serious. It's something serious to talk about. We already got damn coming up. I'm gonna bring us bring you up and we'll keep talking, but.

But I I say this and I asked this question.

Because not that we shouldn't take them seriously, we should. I do believe I love the blockchain tech I I love the art that we have in NFT's. I love what it what it can mean to us. But when I asked the question do we take NFT's too seriously? I'm asking do we take?

Correct.

The technology itself, so serious that we forget about the people behind it and the Community that's behind it. We've got some speakers, I see 09 GB is up here. Big gallery. Dave, we'll start with you. What do you think? Do we take NT2 seriously? Do we forget about the humans that are actually behind, making all this happen?

Yes, yes.

Well, yeah, both of those balls, all of the above. Of course, they're taking too serious. You know, they well. And then it's an enterprise. It's a business. I get it. Everybody is trying to do their best to level up their bag. I get it, too. But when you're so focused on that, you tend to lose yourself, right? I jumped up here early because, you know, I gotta bounce out and go to BJ's room at 9:00 so I can fall asleep.

As she, as she bites pointed out, is your old ass going to be able to stay up because you always fall asleep? I love that. Why don't we have more of that in this space, right? It's sort of like that tweet you put out, like, if if you're so sensitive, then you can be easily manipulated or something like that. You put out and I'm like, yeah, it's the same thing with the NFT space. Look at the characters, right? If you look at onaji, tell me that ain't good fun, loving, like the characters themselv

Is light hearted. You know my rectangles light hearted unless you're putting out some death and destruction. Destruction and that's the community you're trying to build where y'all all just going to hug the base of a tree and worship Satan and draw pentagons if that's your community. OK, but for the most part it's a whole bunch of lighthearted art, but a whole bunch of serious jokers behind it, doing all kind of craziness and really just rolling on the the community and the hard way.

So great topic, thanks for having it let me and thanks for let me speak. And you're rocking it by the way.

Thank you. Thank you. When I when you when you came in, that was another thing to jump in and get started. I know you gotta take over and move to that balcony space, but I appreciate you coming up and sharing and sharing your perspective. Ohh, najinajiyou.com, what's going on on TV? What you got to say on the matter?

Hey, what up piece and shout out to you by shout out to you Dave, it's good to hear from you.

Yeah, you know, OK. So I was excited about this when I first saw the, you know, the title when you put the event up. And I was like, oh, OK, this is about to be a good room, I mean.

I think I got a different take on it. I have a different take on it. I think that.

A lot of people, a lot of a big demographic in this space can actually take this tech.

Not very seriously. And you know, I I kind of sometimes get upset with that because I do take this very seriously. I do see this tech as game changing for black and brown people. So I see a lot of people out there that don't take it seriously at all and you know, troll and put up a bunch of nonsense and just put them over junk, put a bunch of junk on the blockchain when you know I do take it very seriously. So, I mean, I I have a different perspective, but I do understand Dave.

Put it perfectly you know, we are able to showcase a lot of black joy in the space. You know, we have a lot of cartoons. We have a lot of youthful, PFP's, youthful projects, imaginative stuff, right? We're talking about Afro Futurism in this space. A lot. So.

You know, I see both sides of it, but.

Yeah, that's my take. That's my take for now.

I I appreciate that in in that same thing. I think this is not only has this been on my mind for probably a good week or so, but in relating to what you're talking about being, it's also been in my brain because I see these trolls. I see these people who.

A lot of times are so gung ho about their own agendas or so gung ho about being a troll. They're like I said, like you come into the space and you serve nothing but to.

Distract you. Serve nothing but to be an agent of chaos.

And.

For me.

It loses the human side of it. There are we we've talked before about.

How there is a place for everyone.

You know I learned growing up, my grandmother told me it takes I'll I'll have to make the world baby. You know. So they're the space for everybody. That's an opportunity for everybody. But I think a lot of times where.

It it that disconnects with me is when.

We use our own places or wherever we are.

To dislodge and displace someone else from where they are.

And.

It that's where, like I said, that's where that disconnect comes in with me, where we're so concerned about being a troll in the space and saying, you know this and this and this about this floor price or you and he and ski meat and all this other type of stuff or we're so involved with pumping our bags or we're so involved with.

Our own egos that we forget that there are other people out out here and other people out here in the space who are.

Looking at this the way you do be.

Dave, what you got to see the hand up? Go ahead, feel, feel free.

Yeah, no worries. Just so listen, I I I have to respectfully disagree with my brother. I do. I I see all of that, that action. And what about folks maybe just sort of not taking it seriously? I could see how they could be misinterpreted on both of your points. Those trolls and the people who act that way, entities like somebody who never had money all of a sudden getting money. It ain't that that person change. It's just the money gave him the power to to amplify who they really were.

Absolute.

To begin with, the same thing happens when you enter any new space in web two and social media. If you were an asshole in real life and then you got a chance to express it through trolling on Twitter, it just amplifies your ability to do that. But that's really about them. You know that. That's what I know I'm about to hit Wellness Wednesdays with BG, but she says this message all the time when folks are trolling you, it's really more about them than it is about you. What you.

And and being your authentic self, if you're naturally a happy person for whatever reasons, it doesn't mean you. You've never had trauma in your life or having to overcome obstacles. But if naturally you deal with that in your life and you're a happy person, don't come in and spend something so serious that you change who you are. That ain't being authentic either. Coming in here just crying and screaming all the time and and doing that. If that ain't who you naturally are, then you have. You're

In some room somewhere if you naturally like comedy and cracking jokes, and this is still at the end of the day, what are these images we're displaying? Are they not media? Is this not the same thing that you would do in any other form of media? Is it not art that you appreciate? So I think you know you are right to you, you putting your thumb on a pulse in the NFT space about folks taking things a bit too serious and going too far.

I think it's what's really important though is you recognize that that external.

Issues. It's more about them losing who they are as opposed to you letting them affect or or impact you in any kind of way.

So yeah, I rambled a little bit there. Sorry about that, boss.

You know, you were you, you were great. What, what, what stands out to me is, is that that external motivation that has amplified?

You know your own personal nature. That's what's wild to me.

Is that we have come into the space and whether or not you you've seen that.

If you've seen that type of success.

It changes you, or it can for some.

Or if you don't see that type of success.

You can change it. It's gonna amplify what what you already have. It's gonna amplify what's already there. Is that in it in itself? The.

How we how we take the space too seriously. I feel like I'm waxing philosophical, but I do this in my brain and I then I come into the comments and kind of use use y'all as my examples to help me work it all out. And I appreciate you for that. We got Kane coming up and asked. He comes up.

Umm.

Welcome to all of our.

New folks in the space, this is the Commons. I I just swapped philosophical about about the question do we take NFTS too seriously? People have been saying yes somewhat. No because there are people who take it seriously enough in front of people who are coming into the space and trolling or letting the success they found or access they haven't found changed them. And then I asked from from there is that you know an Ave is that?

A way that we take it too seriously is we we give the space and these NFT's the opportunity to affect us and amplify us to that level. Kang. How so? Sir? What's going on? It's good to see you today. What? What's what's your take?

It was good. It was good. Let me know real quick. Can you hear me?

We can hear you, Sir, and not nice and clear.

Alright, good, good. Let me know if I rug.

Great conversation. I'm gonna be real like right now with.

Jeez, you know, outside of, you know, honestly what we're doing and kilobytes and you know, certain things like that. Honestly, man, it's wearing me out. And.

And I think there's probably a lot of people that feel that way. I mean for me.

I just feel like it's a lot of hype, right? Like you even when you look for spaces, you know, like you want to get in and you want to. You want to learn something or you just want to catch a good vibe.

And it's hard now, right, because you know, like what we use, right? The whole thing you do this and there were ten spaces talking about the same as that thing where you showing that everybody was literally going to still meet the project.

You know, I'm saying, so they want to have all those issues with it, the security and everything, and then people are still going to try to amend it. So it's just, it's just, it's a lot of hype and it's a lot of fake concern and and and.

You know.

It's just that everybody wants to be a part of that they want to be a part of not even a movement, but they just want to be a part of the cloud. And I feel like with you know T's and we have three. I feel like that's kind of what it's just becoming. This is becoming another space for cloud and it's unfortunate because the.

The technology is so amazing as far as the things that you can do.

When you have on one side people learning about ENENS and you know how you know you can really use that technology. And we've had people jump on these spaces and tell us how they're going to use ENS to, to really change the game. And that should be what we're getting hyped about. But, you know, instead people are getting hyped about, you know, stuff that really isn't as serious.

Just so they can have the cloud, if that makes sense.

It does, it does. Thank you. Thank you, Kane, Kane for for for sharing that and I, I echo that, I echo that as well. I've, I've been feeling, I've been feeling that that fatigue a little bit as well. That's when I you know, head head back to the places that that I feel like I could take the rest, which is usually on campus that analogy or overall medium or somewhere else or on my own timeline you know sharing and talking to the people that are doing things that.

That I enjoy that I'm making art, that I enjoy that that are building things that I want to be a part of and things like that. That's why I come to kind of a lot of times recharge so that I can kind of go back out there and have all and see all the craziness and see the hype and see how it affects people and and such. I see through you came up welcome, welcome, welcome. Good to see you today. Do you have what's your perspective on the on the question.

Good evening, good evening. I'm kind of similar to how King is with it.

A I think that's kind of how I feel about it too. I mean, I've kind of been there for maybe a month or two, a little bit more than that now.

Uh.

I don't know, I just even even in some of the conversation that's been playing out with the different perspectives.

I look at it like.

It's easy to forget.

When you kind of begin to socialize in this space.

That is, it's really all business. This is all business.

From top to bottom.

That's what it's about. Somebody's trying to make some money. And when I kind of step back and I look at it that way and I look at how people come into the space, it's hard for me to even look at the people like that. You, you know, you like you wouldn't be were describing who come in and and, you know, presenting what seems like negative energy or, you know, not encouraging growth in the space.

You know, I look at it, everybody's not in it for the same thing. Everybody didn't come in for the same thing and this. And that's OK. Like, I can't really look at somebody who is purely looking for profit.

And say that they're they're an asshole because they pop up in discord focused on full price and blah, blah blah blah blah. That's what they're there for. And I can't really say that they they can't be there for that.

I think it's easy to kind of get lost in our own little corner of of it if we find 1.

And we all kind of had our dopamine hit.

Those of us who were here throughout last year and it was riding high, it was like a it's like, you know, Najib likened it one day and we haven't had that conversation again in the discord, but to gambling.

And I I kind of know why he backed off of it, of the conversation, but.

But I mean it is kind of similar. You would play the slots, you know, you know, you feel like you get lucky, you might cash out big. That's what the feeling was last year and that's going now. I think a lot of people are starting to accept that.

And the that fun energy of looking for something to jump into that might, you know, yield you something, whether it's a cool utility or a profit or whatever, without that energy to support it, you just kind of looking at the landscape for what it is. So yeah, I think I don't take it too seriously at at all anymore. I'm on the same page with Kane. I'm, I'm about.

This project, or Nadi, I, you know, I show up for spaces for for other projects that are in relation to onaji. I'll support peoples individual stuff if they have a project, but I ain't shopping for NT. I don't, I'm not, I'm not even paying attention. I don't care.

That's real, that's real, that's real. As you were, as you were, were were speaking.

It was I was finding the same parallels. You know, I don't I'm, I'm not looking for other stuff as well and the and the things that I see aren't necessarily that that interesting.

I feel like I came into a space toward toward the end of of that Ryan high hype and even though it's changed, I still feel like I have a little bit, a little bit there, but it feels like a lot of the space still doesn't or it is it is now changed of course as as we see with with the market but.

Is that?

Cannot be found again, do we want to find it?

Again, Daniel, Daniel, I see you on stage and the Bob Hot Gallery and then 3D. I'm gonna allow you up in 2 seconds. So, Daniel, feel free to set up. What? What are you feeling like?

Hey, I'll I must admit I I did jump into it with the gambling aspect at first.

You know, trying to trying to buy something and get something that was much more worth, much more value. But I've found that these NF's I I like to support black stuff and.

That's just the way of me showing that I support other black projects, you know, and that's that's number one. But #2 is, I think that if you want to become something better, you have to surround yourself with better people. And I think that these NFT's even, like, I'm not a millionaire yet. I must admit, I don't know if you know that, but I have been able to surround myself in communities of people that have been able to get me further than I was before.

So with that respect, I think that the NFTS have.

Absolutely. You know, made their money's worth just by passing me around. People that you know with the analogies you guys have. I I've been making them a I and I've been making, I've been doing the Community manager course and stuff like that and the stuff, that knowledge that I've gained and the place where I am now, I wouldn't have been there without.

You know, getting into NFT's. So I think that that that absolutely their money's worth. You can't take them too seriously. But I think if you get, you know what, what you need from them, you're getting what you need.

Does that make sense?

It does. It does. Thank you. Thank you, Daniel, for for coming out to to share. I hope that you'll stay and and continue to. To give us more of your perspective, let's run across to bipod gallery. Go ahead real quick, Dave. I see you're here. What we're going to try to get to you before you take off, Sir.

Right, you know what Dave? You want to go before I go because I can, you know, because I know you had to head out, but I have a little bit of long winded thing. Hold on.

Man, I promise I'm gonna listen to. I just didn't want to be disrespectful and disappear off the stage, right. So I did want to say goodbye and thanks for for the great space. I do want to leave everybody with one last piece of because this reminds me of a lot of clubhouse conversations we were having last year. And I remember some dude this from when King said about cloud chasing. It reminds me of real big last year. I mean, it's if you think of something now, it was really bad. Spring, summer.

Last year I remember some dude come I don't need this in FT for clout. Like you don't see me, I'm wearing my Gucci shoes, I'm wearing my Gucci belt and he was just going off in the clubhouse room and then I can't remember it was how she's still in that space now. But she very politely said, well, just the fact that you had to mention all that in real life, cloud chasing means you're just that type of person anyway. And you throw a rock into a group of dogs, the one that hit come bark the loudest

And and that always stuck with me over this whole time because it reiterates the point. In every aspect of our life, we have all of the same things that we see now here in this space. The constant is what type of person are you? And if you're the type of person that can be serious about your business and growing wealth for your family and community and have a good time, then don't change that when you enter these spaces. Keep that because.

That's your authentic self. Alright. That's all I wanted to throw out there. Thanks boss. Great room, man. Great, great room. I'll be listening, I promise on the recording.

Thank you for dropping in. Thank you for dropping in so much. Daddy, we are, we are always appreciate your, your perspective and your support. Baby, go ahead.

Hey, so I just wanted to say that.

When we say to the people on here, take it seriously, I come from a different community before I came here and it was the draft kings autograph community that Tom Brady stuff that you see in his failing right now. And it's kind of like a big huge rug pool now when you talk about people losing 60 and $70,000 on stuff that they have done and they're taking this seriously because for them it really was like gambling. These aren't collectibles, will sport collectibles is supposed to make everybody r

But when I see people here doing it, I'm like, do you even know?

What people are going through in other spaces, like what the rock pools are like, what the other kind of communities are like, where people are really like they're really showing out and so.

I am like, you know, most of the people in here I'm not checking for anymore NFT's. I'm more checking for an NFT communities. Where do I feel like I want to belong? And I think that what the beautiful thing about the onaji space is that it makes us feel like we want to belong. And some people don't know how to just be in the room without being the center of attention. So it's kind of like the more of that we gather, the more people will attract who want to build and build value into a space.

Because I ultimately believe that that's where the utility is going to be in that community. Because I love the way that I love the way that I think it was Kane that did for his daughter and says, oh, Naji presents, you know, for his project. And I think that if we start building projects without anaji presents and that kind of becomes that community and whether or not it makes money is irrelevant. The value is what we add to each other and what we add into the space in general. So I just had to

I think that there is a wine to taking things too seriously as a person who looks at NFT's as a way of building money, and as NFT is a way of building community and I think that Leo Najis, I think that we got it right. I mean, except for the people that eat sweet grits, but that's a whole other conversation.

Huh?

I hope I hold on.

Here we go.

If we go.

I was just about to get you. I was just. I was.

Bought a click? Alright, bought a click now.

Love you all the time.

It's.

I was just about to give you props. You was just about to give props for people.

It's alright, it's alright, it says Savory on the box. We can work with it later.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

I'll let you have a go, but I love the community, bro.

I'm done.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for popping up now what, what really kind of stands out to me in that is that you know that?

Hmm.

Oh, thank you. What kind of stands out for me in that is is?

Is the gym that you gave us for you where you were Speaking of folks who don't know how not to be the center of attention in the room?

And that that a lot of times it's what sticks out to me.

Are those people?

And those are the people that.

I feel.

Like you take this too seriously. You you you give the space too much of your power. Like you come in here and you want to be the center of the room to help boost you up when they're so like you, you you need this to boost you up.

Me like this the the the volatility of of potentially.

Hitting the jackpot in a project and winning 60K or spending investing 60K into a project and then lose it, that's that's where you kind of get your that's where you get your validation from.

And I know I said that with a with a judging count, I'm asking the question.

3D vibes welcome. Good to see you again.

Well, you called me 3D vibes.

That's all.

Sorry, do you? Look, I'm putting it all together, you know? The Vibes, 3D box, theater, all of it. I never know what you want to be called, so I just like I got together. There you go.

Shout, shout, shout to boss for Chex mixing me up. You know what I'm saying?

Here man.

Umm.

Well, I'll let I see through go 1st and I'll like put my two cents in on the question.

He passed it over. I see it's all yours.

Oh no, I was just gonna.

Basically, I was going to ask you what you thought in terms of like it's interesting you put it that way, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a question. But I guess it kind of, to me, it kind of has itself, maybe they do need that and it's not necessarily the volatility or the risk, but the attention is, is maybe what they are getting out of it. Like you know, we've been in spaces some recently, some NASA recently with you know, like there are people are just like.

Talking to be heard like they like holding court and you know they they like having the control of hosting the space or being you know the Co host and.

They they show it, and it's the way that they communicate where, you know, you couldn't have a conversation with them like you just kind of being talked at. But I think that there's a validation that people get from that attention for sure, like where there may be nowhere else in their life where they can have a room full of people listening to them, like they know what they're talking about.

I fully and I fully understand that. Fully, fully, I understand that.

And I it.

I have to.

Remember that sometimes?

But then I, I just. I look at the space. Sometimes. I'm like, this is a hell of a place to come looking for it, you know what I mean?

You got people hungry because it's a lot. A lot of people are looking for community and you hear that a lot. And I don't think a lot of people slow down to really understand what that means. From a grown person getting on the Internet saying they're looking for community like that. That resonates a little deeper to me than maybe somebody looking for the quick flip. People are looking for connections with other people that they might not be finding in the real world.

So I think that's a very important thing to take from tonight. And even the way that people respond to almost any onaji space or coming in our discord, I think it it's it's very powerful that people are really looking for connections and I think a lot of these communities that have faltered.

They they stayed as strong as long as they did because they had some sense of community, may have been organic from the people there, but may not have been fostered or maintained, but it just may have been a bunch of cool people talking and it just couldn't sustain itself for long. But I think that's a really important thing to think about. And I think as we maybe come off the wave of the, the high, you know, peaks of NFT's and maybe we can slow down and start.

Looking at it in a more comprehensive manner and it's like, OK, this was a business. How would we do this? Forget about all the hype, forget about having to be in Twitter spaces. This is if this is our business, how do we market this? Why, why we narrowing scope to just Twitter? Like why aren't we more on Tiktok? Why are we? You know, it's like a broader way to look at it. It's not necessarily a bad thing that is slowing down and people aren't hyper fixated on the the energy that was there.

Last year it's maybe I see this opportunity to maybe pivot how we approach the whole thing.

I I agree with that. I do. I very, I very much agree with that and I and I also agree with with your point about you know people are coming to to look for the the Community. I said many times before that you know I found a lot of community here in Web 3.

Where I don't find that same community in in real life.

But I I.

I do. I a lot of times feel like as humans we do very much look for for that validation and we we do know sometimes that validation comes from internal or external and it it just seems a lot of times that people here are looking for a lot of external validation.

3D go ahead.

I think I even wanna kinda.

Piggyback and even say, I mean.

We take NFT's too seriously.

I think that the.

Perspective a little bit now is.

How do you say?

It's way different than what it was a year ago, I feel like.

Environment for artists when they are selling their art, people are just focused on flipping and making as much money as possible, I think like.

Umm.

The what the Community kind of regulates itself a little bit more where now the focus is more on community. I mean gas prices aren't going to be as high like going forward. It's going to be easier to kind of make a strategy and distributing art and getting more active with communities. I think a lot of people have been in the space for at least a year now, so I think.

In where people like, I guess N FT's are web three is going to be taken more seriously, is gonna be more into organ the organization aspect of things, rather than just like putting up art and focusing solely on like the NFT, like what's the community around that. NFT going from web two to web three. We're going from looking at an audience as fans, and we're looking at the audience as participants. So what's the best framework that people are putting together for that?

Now that the market has kind of slowed down and I feel like.

The bear market isn't so much of a bad thing. I feel like if I were to put it into perspective, like when ETH was at like 4K, picture yourself in a group chat with like 150.

Like everybody's like.

Putting out things full blast, it's like moving that mile a second, but now it's like everything is slower. I feel like we have the privilege to be more calculated now and talk to people in a more of an aspect that makes sense, I think.

Even like, I think this is a perfect time for people to start putting together courses. You know, I'm saying the market slowed down for people to be able to kind of like regroup their notes about what they learned about the past year, right, and like start processing this and processing that out for proper onboarding because that was the worst. That was the one of the worst aspects in the last year, was just the onboarding process for like a lot of these projects now, since everything's in the s

You know, I'm saying, with this, good education looked like to everybody, what does a good community look like to everybody? We can, we actually, we can now look back in history, even though history is a year ago, right? We could look back at history and be like, whoa.

These were the motherfuckers that lasted for more than a year.

What did they do?

Ohk word. OK, cool, cool, cool, cool. You know, and just kind of, like, start putting together your own, your own blueprint. So yeah, that's my two cents. I hope that makes sense.

It does. It does. Thank you. Thank you for.

For providing your perspective.

Yeah.

You're you're you're welcome. I just wanted to say that too, because like.

I was just had this conversation like three weeks ago.

But like some of my friends, some of my friends are super rare. And they're like, yo, back in the day, it was a Wild West. You drop any piece of art, it's it's almost like guaranteed to sell. It's not like that anymore. There's more of like.

Is is. It's a bit more. The space is more calculated now than it was back then. This isn't the same space it was a year ago.

So it's important to kind of digest that and I don't think that the question is.

Do we take NFTS too seriously? I think.

I think it's like, what's the new framework that we're adapting for the future?

A bed, because I think NFTS are just chilling out.

Like people are taking it seriously when it's like the markets chilled out.

So you know.

Like let's with with this Grace period before it picks back up whenever, whenever that may be. You know, I'm saying, let's let's put together like a Fort that works.

That's that is exactly where I wanted to to take the conversation is is.

Reframing that that question what what could the question be now to help us?

Not necessarily move forward. I always hated that that sometimes it especially in in in in my brain. I asked myself these questions and I say, so what's next? You know if you know that your banks mean.

But.

Taking that question and reframing it like like 3D vibes it. Here we go. Look, I did it again.

OK, it's all good. So I never forget.

Never forget.

You're going to be like that. You're gonna be that forever. Now, that's that's that's you. That's the thing between you and me now. That's our thing.

But like, like 3D Bystander was, was, was saying.

How can we reframe that now because?

I take NFT too seriously.

If I didn't, I wouldn't be in the NT space.

As a Dean ever in a collection that is near and dear to my heart, doing my best to help it continue to grow.

It is that.

Maybe the influencer who?

You know, pumps the next. What they think is the next big thing is taking it too seriously because they're trying to.

Continue to do large goals not only for themselves, but for the community around them.

Maybe the the artist takes us those in a T2 seriously because they're serious about their art. They sensitive about their shit.

Be running, yeah.

Yes, I think.

How you say like even as it goes down to like framework.

I think.

We're actively seeing what?

It should be done especially from like oh Naju.

Or neither you university?

I think.

Umm.

Cultivating, like, say, like, stockpiling community because these are people, you know, I'm saying, but like, like.

And and just educating.

People while the markets in a in a slow area because it's going to make a lot more sense I think.

That time you know.

Let's focus on what the tech is. You know, I liked what I see through said about I when I joined the space. It wasn't really about like a money game for me. I just wanted to like.

I just wanted to be here.

I just wanted to be here, you know, I'm saying so.

I think that's like more of a mentality that's gonna be adopted. Of course people are here for money.

I haven't really sold like an NFT, so I'm like one of the people that just like wasn't here for money, but like.

But people are definitely here for money. So I guess, like right now it's just learning, learning about the methods and the technology that can help you accumulate money so you don't have to be.

And on the market per se, right, right, right. Am I alright? I got one clap.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I clap for you twice. I clap twice.

I'm with you. I mean, you know, you you you say that now that.

Hey.

Now that we're in this market, we we have this new opportunity to.

You know, to to recalibrate and to realign into not only what's next, but what matters most to us.

So as.

I mean.

What?

Sorry, could you boss?

No, go ahead.

I was gonna say, I mean, when I first got into NT, I mean I definitely got into it.

For the money, you know, I'm saying I learned quick how to make money within. That's but.

Then, you know, like you were saying.

To be balanced by standard like.

When it was around like 4K, like projects were coming out so fast it was hard to even do the research into.

You know, I'm saying, like spending the time to get on the, you know, the loud list and all that mess that we all were going through.

And for me, you know, I was like, OK, well, you know.

What else is there to this space, you know? And that's when I started to.

Spend more time building on magic because I was like, OK, you know, let me work with this dope team we got, because then we can build something from this and we can do it our way.

Then you know it'll. For me personally, it will give me a different.

Viewpoint of you know what's available, you know in this space and what's to come from it.

And I think that's where, you know that that comes with growth, you know, and I think that's the problem too for a lot of people. I won't say it's a problem, but I just feel like that's for a lot of people.

They're still kind of in that introductory stage of this.

Space, which is the initial.

Let's keep chasing projects and chase projects and chase projects. And then I think that's where the.

Issue with the word community comes from is because people say, OK, community is just another buzzword, but what they're saying is just, you know.

Flippers jumping into projects, and then it's like, OK, let's get on the loud list and let's BS conversations and let's get in spaces to stand out. But it's really just to get, you know, into these projects so you can flip them, but people are misidentified community with that idea.

And that's why I keep life from me. I keep saying community is gonna be one of the biggest utilities.

And I feel like that's kind of where we need to be thinking if you're trying to build within this space because a lot of people, especially when the pandemic happened.

You know, they were locked in their homes, you know, with their families. Sometimes that wasn't a great thing, or people just started to become more introspective of their own lives and they realized, OK.

I have family and friends.

But I'm not necessarily on the same level with them, right? Like, I'm into this and they're not, but I really want to dive into this thing that I'm into.

Are there other people that think the same way as me?

In the good the the dope thing about Web 3 is that it will immediately put you into people with the same mindset as you, right? Or the same interests as you.

You know, I'm saying so like these, you know, these are really just giving people access to people like themselves or that you know somewhat think as themselves and it's OK you go from OK, I might have a handful of friends to OK, now I got 100 people on a daily basis that I can interact with that I have, I know immediately I have something in common with.

And I think for us moving forward, we have to market that more. You know, I'm saying because that is a valuable thing to people that they don't even know they exist. They just see these NPC's and they think, oh, it's a gimmick or somebody tried to rob me. It's like, no.

Hey, you, come to a naughty listen. It's kind of by, you know, by pot people.

That are trying to learn and really honestly just trying to vibe with one another and teach one another and be good to one another like this is available to you. All you got to do is hold this token or not, but hold this token and you know you're part of a community, a group of people now. So now your friend group went from 5 to 100 people or your your family group, you know, now you got a whole group of family, you know, all across the world.

So I think we have to be more.

Mindful of marketing that two people because there is a big market for it.

Wise words as as always. Thank you, Kane. Thank you for that.

The first hand I saw was 3D and then we'll go to I see through and then I've got one last question for you guys as we kind of wind down our space SO3D for free.

Here's one thing. And this.

Even at eths height.

At like 4 point whatever cave.

As adoption did not.

Take place.

And on top of that.

There's still the perception that NFT's are a scam.

Which means.

People be like, wow bro.

Remember the other day somebody like they already talk?

It was like the glory days. Like yo bro, like y'all, remember?

4 racks, bro.

Thanks bro. Closing date 12K bro. Like I get it, I get it, I get it.

But this was not adopted on a mass scale yet by society.

Which means that there's still plenty of time. There's plenty of time. I think this is just.

The opportunity to just regroup and just, you know, say like.

Understand the new framework. We're not looking at people as just mere.

The project, even if you just bought 1 little thing, you know.

Like wrapping your mind around that framework and how does that help out and how does that really iron out the definition of community to you and the communities that you build?

I could hopped on Twitter. It was like.

Like, I just made this account to like, talk to all my right, my arm.

But I made it in late January early, like early February.

And uh.

Matt like, I got like 1300 followers and I'm active with like.

Bit of I'm not gonna hold you.

Umm.

Like if anything, Web three taught me that interactivity with.

With with.

The market is like.

Way easier and it's and it's something.

Business.

Awesome. I mean that's again gems, gems, words that that we can take.

Let them, let them say. Let them marinate and see what comes out for us. That will continue to help us move and grow in this space and what we need to do. I see through. Go ahead.

Yeah, so, like, it's perfect, kind of, he just said. It's kind of ties to what I was going to say, but it it all wraps together with what Kane was saying as well.

Like I feel like.

What everybody is kind of realizing, or at least in my opinion should be realizing.

Is that?

The the landscape that came described.

As you know, being, you know, the way things are would allow lists and, you know, fake community vibes and all this stuff like the negative aspects of somebody who jumped into in ateez over the past year, the the game as we all came to see it.

I think it it ties into what was just said though.

And about how people mass adoption didn't happen and how people still say and that's all a scam.

The funny thing about it is if we.

Kind of take the objective position and not, you know, because some of us are directly involved with projects or we'll have you on. Some people might be selling entities, whatever, but we just step back and look at it objectively. Not our own stuff, but the whole landscape NFT's actually have been a scam. It has been a scam. It's been about hustling.

Thirst for people with allow this whitelist whatever it's been giving people the perception of scarcity. So they jump in and run up the numbers and promising them the the little the least possible, you know vague shit to get the money and whether they they may not have all done direct rug pools. They may have died slowly, but most of them were. Are they? You know, unless they got super big. Where are they? So.

You know, it kind of has been a scam, so I said all I have to say.

My pivot, and what I kind of am going to start vocalizing more is that maybe we should.

Start and and I think it's going to happen. So maybe if we do it now we'll be ahead of it. But maybe we should pivot away from being in FT focus and put more emphasis on the blockchain and and really start looking because I think that has has narrowed everybody's perception. Think about how much energy and time people spent focusing on how to market in FT's and Twitter spaces and.

How to how to onboard people to buy your NFT. How much of that time did we not spend really looking at the blockchain technology and figuring out new ways to innovate, how to get ahead of things, how to make something new? Everybody was just trying to follow that 10K plan to make it big, and it's not a bad thing. I mean, that's not true, you know, to want that. And it looked attainable and easy enough because all what did they do? They made some cartoon monkeys. They look at that shit.

So it gives you some hope that you could do it too, but I think it distracted a lot of us from really focusing on. But what made that possible, which was the blockchain technology and if we're talking about focusing on community.

And and push a community.

Would we have to act like we have to start looking at the blockchain, looking at how we can use decentralized apps and how to how we can offer people something in that Community other than just some place to talk to each other, particularly if you're making them buy into the community? So, you know, I think it's a good time to maybe start not acting like NFT's is a dirty word, but acknowledging what actually makes NFT's possible and and what is actually the potential that's there for the blockch

Whoa, that was. That's the word. That's that's the word. That's that's the word. I I applaud you for that. I see through that's I feel like a lot of us who are not only in this room, but a lot of us who know one another and and have these networks in in the space, that's what's beginning to happen. That's what's beginning to happen, which is, which is good to see 09 GB you got that hand raised with go ahead for free. Sound off.

The show, yes, I I agree 100%. I was gonna say, you know, NFT's kind of is a dirty word now. Like we kind of broke it. This is a space. We kind of broke the word NFT, right, we'll talk about NFT to somebody outside the space and they're like, maybe not. And there's a reason for that, right. But if you've noticed that the bigger, the bigger.

The bigger people out there, the bigger fish have already pivoted away from that, right. We got Twitter they're talking about. Now we're going to do Web 5 instead like web three. No we're you guys can have that Instagram and Facebook meta, they're like, OK, we're going to call it digital collectibles. The outside world is starting to distance themselves from the term NFT because we already broke that thing. And I'm not talking about we because you know, I'm just talking about the space as a whol

There's actually in one of the group chats that I'm in, they were talking about what's the new name that we're going to call this. And you know, one of the choices was digital collectible. And that got the most votes in the poll because that's what these big companies are deciding that that's what we're going to name this stuff going forward. And if T's is about to be not gone, it's just going to evolve into a different name to call it. And it's going to be that digital collectibles, it's alread

That pivot. But you know, the best collections out there that are still around are the ones that have been pivoting and have been rolling with the punches and you know, innovating, you know, it's just.

Being able to stay on your toes and and move them One Direction, when you know something, a barrier comes in your direction that's, you know, that's innovation and itself so.

That's yes. This is an amazing conversation, boss. You're killing it. I love it.

Look.

It's it's you guys who take the time to come and and request to speak and come to give your perspectives that I am most appreciative of because I've told you before like I I asked myself these questions but.

I love to hear other perspectives because it gives me a number one out of my head and #2 I get to understand that there are other people out here who who feel and think differently and process things, things differently. So thank you guys for taking the time to come up and speak and ensure your perspective. And for those of you, of you who are listening to take your time and and participate in that way as well. It's so very much appreciated.

I'm gonna reset for the last time for after our last question, but this is onaji you the comments on BOSS 2.0 we asked the question do we take in FT too seriously? And then the conversation has.

Gone in a, in a, in a few different directions in the last one that I want to take it in is I want to.

I thought that question itself had a little bit of a of a negative connotation. I I want to ask you in this space, not only to the people who are who have requested to speak, but if for any listeners who would like to come up as well. What do you take seriously here?

Tell tell me what? What your passion is in this space. What, what? What would you like to contribute to this space? What do you enjoy bringing to this space? And if I can start that, what I enjoy most about what I've kind of take too seriously seriously here in the space is I like to bring information. I like to bring information to those who are looking for it, and I like to be a conduit to bring it to others and give it to them in a way that they can process it. So that's something that.

I feel like I take too seriously in the space.

And I feel like whoever was driving took that accelerator seriously, but that's OK.

But I play with that question to anyone else who would like to contribute. What do you take too seriously in this space? What what is your passion? What other things that you bring?

That you would like to leave this space with your contribution.

I mean, I'll go second.

For me, I mean, you know, you guys are saying that I'm.

A major for mental health, you know, I'm saying like for personal reasons, you know, things I've been through, things you know, I've seen other people in my family go through.

So, you know, that's a gift and it's not a brand thing for me, it's just.

I feel like we take life too serious and you know.

We take things that you know we don't have to worry about too seriously and the things that we should worry about, we don't spend more time on that, so.

I just like to remind people of it, man.

What I really wanna do is just add value when it comes to these kids, you know? I'm saying, like, if we can.

You know, even just looking at this space and you know how?

The percent of us that are in this space, you know, is just always alarming to me and I just want.

You know my kid and other kids, you know, especially black kids, you know, kids of color, man. To have a opportunity to be great in this space that we all know is going to grow and, you know, if they can get into it early and thrive.

You know, I'm saying, like before they're even in their teens or once they're in their teens, before they become adults and have responsibilities.

And they can take advantage of it. I think that's huge. So that's my goal.

Thank you, Kang. Thank you, thank you. That that is, that is, that is apparent that is apparent from how, how you move in the space that is apparent to the energy you bring to the space. That's that's very apparent. So thank you so much for bringing that into our space not only for us but for the space as a whole. We need that.

Be that. See your hand up. I thinking ago.

Yep, Yep. Yeah.

Feel free.

Period.

I take onaji way too serious. But that's these are my peoples. These are my peoples. You know what I'm saying? Like I came in this phase and you know, I, you know.

Cultivated a project and I'm here. I'm here for is. Until the wheels fall off this whole damn space. I am here. You feel me because you know.

I really care about this tech. I really care about the things that are around this tech. I really care about art and I really care about the fam, right. And I really care about black people as a whole. I really care about our extended family just like, and I'm now I'm meeting people, I mean, I mean people from the continent, I mean people from from from Europe. Now from this space, I'm like, OK, this is this is a major thing like this is, you know, I'm saying, like I've been, I've been in positi

This is this some new. This is something new. This is experience that's new for me and, you know, just all of the love and support and the help that everybody has shown the project. It's like, Nah, we're going to take this thing as far as it'll go for sure.

Thank you. Thank you Sir for for.

We are, we are all kind of here today under the umbrella of a project that you began. So you know you are, you're accomplishing that.

So just like I was saying to Kang, like, we need that. We didn't have that. You know, we might not be here all here right now. I know. I definitely probably wouldn't be on a Twitter space hosting. I didn't mess with Twitter for, like, forever until I came time for the Web 3 space. SO3D, feel free. Go ahead. What do you take too seriously here?

Nah, I was about to add on to.

Angle.

Ohh look, go for it. Go ahead.

Umm.

Oh yeah, so.

What you said remind me of.

There's this dev.

OK.

I remember I was talking to him like a couple.

Talking to me about.

Back in like 2017?

His friends would skip school.

To like go mine Ethereum.

Because they're like trying to figure it out.

And he was like.

I was just trying to pass bro.

I was just trying to pass.

You know how fucking stupid I feel?

No, he was. It's like.

I feel like the same thing is happening now.

Like everybody is calling it a scam. Everybody's trying to pass class, but we out here, like in the dorm rooms, trying to.

Here it is, yes.

Out of mind at alpha, you know, I'm saying so it's like so like when you kind of put it in that lens.

We'll be fine. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, we'll be fine, bro. Like, it's crazy because like.

I tried to put like a picture to it.

But I remember he was telling me about it and I just heard the anguish in his voice, even though he was making money.

I was like, you know what?

I've just think.

I just think we're doing everything that we're supposed to be doing right now. So like.

Are people taking lifts too seriously? Yeah, bro. Like you just don't like the only thing you you have to do, right?

Look for educational resources, learn how to use the tech, and you know what I'm saying? Don't.

Don't fall off the ride. That's it. That's it.

That's it. I'm, I'm. I'm mining the etherium in my dorm room right now as we speak. Nobody could tell me shit three years from now. Did the money make me do it? No. I've always been like this. Nobody could tell me shit. And I'm playing. Alright, but.

Yeah, Nah, I just think people. People.

Umm.

Yeah, people could if people are taking this situation really seriously, like.

You don't.

As a fellow artist, yeah.

Very nice, very nice. Do we have any of our other speakers that would that would like to share?

If not, that's cool too.

Yeah, no, I would say that people like you, boss, you know, be anybody who's like, directly like affiliated with a project. I don't really think that you all can say you're taking it too seriously. You are taking it appropriately serious, like you're supposed to be serious about it. So I think you know you. You have, you're not. You don't have any unhealthy relationship with with the space. I don't feel like you. You're supposed to be knowledgeable.

I'm involved because that's part of the deal. So, you know, I don't think you should feel like there's anything unhealthy about your. I would just say, you know, like we talked about, don't let it just be the NFT's. And I think for me, what I'm serious about is what I'm just saying is.

We're kind of always gonna push and understanding of the technology.

And if I leave anything of you know any memory of me to anybody in this space is.

It should be. That is, you know, understanding how things work and how you can use them. That's always going to be what I'm going to push. And I think that, you know, that lends itself to a futurist perspective, meaning, like, I also want us and I I kind of ask questions that are directed in that way.

Because I don't always, you know, wanna just blast my opinion, but I'll ask things or I'll, you know, lead conversation in a certain direction on purpose, but but, you know, get people thinking in a futuristic perspective and in terms of like, not just what's the big picture?

The more like what you said before. What's next?

And not in a bad way because you're dismissing what you're doing or what you've done. But you should always still be thinking about what's what's next as well. So you know the understanding things, how they work and and keeping an eye towards the the possibilities ahead of you. I think those are the things that I'm serious about.

I love. I love to hear that. I.

I, I I see that as well. I I personally myself appreciate that so much about you is that we can we can tell that.

You're about pushing, pushing it forward, about pushing the conversation forward, about pushing the technology forward. I think that's amazing. I've I think that that's something that we need to continue to to grow and continue to change and continue to.

Move to the next level, so.

That's that's where the money is. We stop playing with this little money, that's where the money is.

Yeah, that's right.

Right, but no under understanding the technology.

Being ahead of the game, like, like, let's talk about it, let's talk about it real quick. Let's talk about it because because because you you think that sometimes. But I want, I want to hear, I want you to like, open up their kid.

Understand, understanding, understanding the technology and being first to apply it is where the money is. That's what mid journey was just first to do it. It wasn't. They didn't make that shit. Dolly didn't make that shit. Some nerds in some university lab made the shit for fun, but but now they make all this money with a I like, you know, it's like, OK, it's hard to get people to understand, like get under the hood of this shit while it's new.

And try to figure out a way to use it that somebody else has it so you can make that money. You people over here trying to try and hustle and to get, you know, a couple 100 stacks for some NFT.

There's millions, 10s of hundreds of 1,000,000 on the table if you can figure out how to make a tool or service that doesn't exist. And the only way you can do that and be like controlling of it and get the have controlling interest of the profit of is if you make it yourself. And you can't do that if you don't understand how shit works, if you just want to be a user for everything, you're always going to be a customer, always. So that's what I mean when I say that's where the money is, so you k

I'm, I'm gentle with, I'm pushing this AI stuff. But like, when I do the next class, I'm gonna really push people to really try to have some curiosity about how that shit works and really start using it so they're not just looking at Twitter and saying, oh, that's dope.

Do it yourself. Make a better version.

So just got on it. We've already talked about it before, but I'm gonna go see it now. I don't need everybody in the room. Just don't keep your eyes out because it's going to be all nice. You presents the comments spotlight on. I see through in the next couple of weeks. I'm gonna manifest that we're going to make that happen because it's the conversation that needs to be had.

Thank you. Thank you for that insight. Thank you for.

That vision.

Thank you for continuing to be somebody who is going to.

Hold our.

Education, hold our advancement accountable and put it into put it in and put that back on us and saying hey, this is what we need to do to push forward people like you and be and so many of these other people in that are in the room right now are are the people that we need to spearhead the community to continue to push forward. So I kind of passionate right there for a second.

But again I I appreciate all of you coming in today to.

Show your perspective to share your experiences this evening. Oh, now do you presents the Commons when I asked do we take in FT too seriously?

Hmm.

It as with every question.

There's a there is a multifaceted answer.

Both positive and negative.

Whatever answer that is for you.

Reevaluated.

Then continue to move forward or we evaluate it and change it. We've got that opportunity not only in this space, but also in our own lives, so.

As we kind of wind down our evening, I'm just gonna keep it off until five. So he's been kind of till we were chill when we started our space with Tim Sparrow and Black and Gold. So I think I'm just going to round this out with some instrumentals from Emancipator I want to take one moment to.

Open up to say the speakers one more time. Anybody want to leave us with the last word? I think I see through just, you know.

Left us with everything we needed to hear, but if there's something on your heart, I want to give you the opportunity to share. So.

Not quite. Alright, I feel good with that. Thank you guys so much. I appreciate you taking the time out to spend a little bit of your Wednesday evening with me. I hope that you guys have a good rest of the evening, the good rest of the week as well. And again, I hope to see you back in the Commons next week. So y'all, take care.

How we forget to mention this, but for those of you who left, if there is any feedback you have. For me, I'm always super open to know how I can make this better, so feel free to let me know you know how to get in contact y'all have a great night.