I'm probably going to jail for fucking.

Jasmine Guy.

It's kind of scary.

Yo, what's up bro?

How do you make the jeans? They fit them like a glove. I have a crush on you since real love. Hold your horses. I'm gonna show you who the boss is. Intercourses. Zombie. Give me a couple. Give me a couple minutes. I gotta just set up, OK?

All right.

The rest of the hardcore with the guns.

It's always fun.

So what's the 411?

I'm just playing.

You can.

Only because I'm paying. I'm fucking all the day. They might be changing that. He liked it when they say everybody.

Whitney Houston poster from Barbies.

It's everything.

I know that pussy.

Gonna drop a flashback. So I smoke the song fucking involved because I'm using all of them.

Give me.

Gotcha.

I'm saying no.

Ohh.

Do you wanna ride?

I don't know.

I think you love me too much.

Ohh you be left.

Unless.

Yeah.

Every time.

You don't make it easy.

No, I was gonna go.

I think.

Dude, wow.

Zombie what's good baby 184?

Yo-yo, yo, what's up? What's up, man? You sound a little low over there.

So cool was that is that?

Does sound low.

Or maybe that's my phone sound a bit low.

And these headphones have been kind of fucking up lately. Do you guys down there as listeners hear me? OK, cool guys hears me. Hi. Not coming in low, right? Right where you be?

We're going to get a big influx when the flexor ends his thing.

Yeah, he's gonna cut his stuff short. But yo, come on up. I wanna chat with everybody. 184 come through, zombie. What's good, bro?

Nothing much, man. Let me see if I could put my headphones real quick. Can you hear me?

OK, but.

Maybe. Do I sound OK? I hear you OK. I totally hear you fine. Wait, do you hear me OK?

Not.

How we doing, fam? Yeah, yeah, I can hear. Good.

OK, cool.

All good, I got my headphones in now.

What's up, man? What's the word?

Nice.

Nice, nice. Nice. Chilling, bro. Chilling, chilling figure. We, you know, NFL Sunday was just leaving, like a little pregame. I think we finally figured out the recipe here. Flexors gonna tee it up. Nice. We're not overlapping anymore. There's actual communication. So everybody can kind of, like come through and give some feedback on what they're doing, learn some shit. But it was an eventful week, no? We held some killer ass spaces this week. No.

Yeah, man. Lots of good information flowing, man. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm happy to be here with you, bro. We're about to blow it up. I don't know if you've been paying attention to, I've been doing on like interacting with like Alex or the shilling villain and what he's got going on, but have you been paying attention to that shit?

No, bro, I've been. I'm. I'm like, in my own lane. Tell me what's going on.

Yeah. So he's pretty much the number one influencer and NFT.

Wow.

And he put this, he's been doing like this question mark thing and everybody puts the question mark on in their name. So he just like made a network out of this question mark. So like I got, I got into the network. I think the page follows like less than 100 people. But over time, over time this thing will grow. And so I'll be on this network page. So say this network page has like 1000 people that have follows and then it has like 30,000 followers. You know my ETH domains right there, I already

Downloaded this blender and I'm trying to get this blender shit to work. Like I I'm I'm like I almost got it. Like I'm figuring trying to figure out how to make this damn store because I want to make me a record store to put inside spatial. I already got the pre session that they like it comes with but I want to make my own custom stuff. So right now I'm trying to figure out this blender and I don't need nothing too crazy I just need to be nice like simple two-story building 3 story building.

And yeah, I'm gonna do it like that.

Love it, bro. You've been doing some some dope, dope, dope stuff when it comes to spatial and for everybody that's here, like just so everybody knows, like we were like some of the spaces we held this past week were. I mean some of them were marathons and some of them were, I mean just literally bridging different communities together. Me, zombie, WAVY. Like we were at one point we had the V FAM, we had the alluvium, we actually had the alluvium mods in the room. We had the space, we had spatial

Who's the 4th one that I'm missing? Ohh yes. And we got the NS, so like we were literally just bridging every single one of them together. It was hell of fucking dope. It was really, really cool.

Brad that was. That was so informative. That was probably one of the best bases I've been in. Bro. That was.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was some good info right there.

It was really, really good. Shit. Yo, WAVY. What's good? My brother.

Chilling man Sunday night ready for ready for a new week wrap up this week like I don't feel I miss much, but it's almost felt like it's been back-to-back.

It, I mean.

Like it feels like a work day, right?

It hasn't stopped, man. It hasn't stopped since the beginning, bro. Ohh. By the way, there is massive demand and I think we should talk about it in terms of like the space of what what you and I are going to be doing right? Putting together, like actually organizing and like really making great content. I feel like it'll give us accountability. But bro, when I tell you the second I even hint at something like that, people are just like give me, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me. Like t

Like, why do why does ENS need to be a staple for every NFT project that gets started? Like, sorry about that. I got a phone call but Fletcher was saying like, why is ENS need to be like the staple for for an NFT project? And I'm of this belief I know that you probably are too, where it's like bro. Like it needs to be the standard, right? There's no reason why at like your DNS domain as well as the subdomains for every single one of your holders. Shouldn't be it you agree with.

Yeah, I'm off there. I'm off the same cloth, the same train. I thought for sure. And and the way I think about it is like, you know, Ethereum is the layer zero, that's the foundation. The very next layer above that, it's ENS.

ENS is the routing service. Like it's just adding elegance to smart contract functionality on the Ethereum chain. It goes hand in hand like bread and butter.

Love it, boobs. What's up? How are you?

And good man and half man half Zombie is is saying it bro. Alexander 42 is the man of the hour in these days and I'm excited about the network question mark stuff too. So.

I don't know why nobody else did it up to now, but network red question mark on and then network red question mark. I was thinking I will save it. Yeah. Nobody knows. For what, maybe my entry ticket one day or. I don't know. But yeah. And I I I don't know if Alexander 42 would not be here these last days. I don't know what I'm doing here. Yeah, he's really killing the show, bro. Yes. Only to go there.

To know how to handle it in these days with the community in these hard stuff, he's really amazing.

Man, he's.

So what is he doing? I'm curious. That's so special, right? Like, other than like, just doing something?

In the beginning he was fucking people like hell, bro. Like man helicopter show go away and and but but in a really special way. He was on boarding this bark guy in in three days to a rock star. I don't know man he he's bringing up he's he's feuding against the council he was getting gifted next to life and the show from marquee Big Brother a mutant ape.

3D hardcore, nice one.

I like that.

He's ripping off a little bit the board, apiac club people he is. He's putting a little bit pressure inside of all the market and yeah, he's talking real stuff here and he's making a great show master action there.

You are.

Zombie.

You.

Really.

Yeah.

Yeah, he's he's breaking the damn Internet, bro. He's like, you haven't seen the the Internet or NFT's will change the world, but anytime he tweets that, it fucks up Twitter, like and that's all you'll see on your timeline for at least some good 20 minutes.

No shit.

Like he's literally.

Click on my profile right now. I'm never getting attention. Only take a look at my tweet. What's going on, bro? He's really the the new Twitter algorithm.

OK.

Yeah, I got I got like fucking 60 or 70 likes and a whole bunch of retweets every time every time we do that the the the the NFTS will break the Internet. And at first a lot of people didn't even really know what it was like I I actually had put the question mark on the end of my name like three or four days ago. But I was thinking about it the whole time. But I I recently just did it and I and I think a lot of people are just doing it for a trend. But I understand the science behind it. Like I

Like check this out. So I got the question mark to reach out to the.

Hmm.

You're planting seeds.

For the network, then I got my #1 dragon, you know, saying reach out to the TCG. Then I got my E domains to reach out to the East community and so I'm bringing out my own NFT.

Yeah, and I think he's going to release his. They were talking about it, but who knows, they say a lot of things on there. He said something along the lines of opening up his own market. So if he opened up his own market, bro, I'm for damn sure trying to put launch my NFTS on his market.

Go ahead, wave.

Who?

Yeah, it was very much satire. So it's a satire show and it's kind of you really need to catch the vibe of the room because if you're not well versed in web three, you'll often get the wrong end of the stick because a lot of the the yeah, it's basically a show and it rip into anyone and everyone coming on stage. But like I say, it's a show. It was just satire.

Interesting. And how many? OK, I obviously was not following this dude. He's got 82,000 followers and I own.

Many spaces get up into the thousands like you.

Yeah.

Yep.

Yeah.

No. And I think what what people like about the show is that he just rips the shit into everyone and like it's not your cock. And and he does it in a like, is this guy serious or is he taking the piss? You don't you your car is satire. So like for most people, they love, they love just hearing the grilling and it's a different vibe. So it's a big audience for draw.

But the funniest thing is when he says I'm a discord dog by nature. Oh my God, I start dying laughing. Go ahead, go ahead. Doctor Who, what's up it?

And he's bringing on the rock stars in the show. Yeah. Frank, the goddess coming, the only guy from the consensus ilad Billah guy is is coming there. He's bringing on these guys who are next to active. Yeah. And and he can make out of everyone only in these days up to tomorrow, let's say maybe in one week nobody's talking anymore but.

That's a fact.

That's a fact.

And let's say today he could make out of everyone a a Rockstar. Yeah, in, in, in, in one day. If he puts you on the cohost and gives you the audience, then you're yeah, it's crazy.

I'm, I'm sorry guys, I I need, I need a little bit of clarification here because it sounded like you were talking about FT bark and I'm just trying to make sure that I know who you're talking about.

Ohh, we were talking about.

I think you're talking about shilling, villain.

Yeah, but we're talking about chilling villain and then he has a soundboard and he always goes, yeah, I'm a discord dog by nature or or. And it's just hilarious hearing him say that. I just be dying laughing every time. And that's part of the part of listening to the to spaces. Like it's a it's informative, it's educational. Then you get some laughs out of it and you might like to hear, to hear them tear somebody apart. Somebody might fall fall and fold under pressure. So it's some good. It's it

They'll have it so that he he'll have one of his Co hosts just walk around in Walmart and he'll ask random people like what do you think of NFT's or how much would you pay for this NFT? And it's just like good content. You can't get anywhere else like that, that kind of like web three content.

Interesting.

He's so markasi version two, yeah.

Yeah, alright, so I mean I'm following them now. Steven, do you know, do you know who this was before that? I didn't. I didn't know who this was.

Yeah, so I I know about him. He's just not one of the ones that I personally prefer and I guess that's just cause I'm kind of a nerd. I would rather you know, be listening to somebody like FT bark who's, you know, really talking with a lot more of like the.

Movers and shakers type shit. But like again, it's it's different strokes for different folks, right? Everybody's gonna find the type of show they want to listen to. And that's perfectly chill, dude. Like, I'm, I'm all about, you know, continuing to support other creators in the space. And if he's got a stage that's going to be, you know, a popular stage, I'm going to still direct people there and help them find that stage. So I just appreciate you guys bringing it back up because he's one that

Tribe that they really connect with. And maybe that's something that, you know, I need to be thinking a little more about.

Man, that dude.

It's all good, bro. Listen. I mean, yeah, as long as yeah, I I gotta listen. And before I could even throw an opinion out there. But like, if y'all find it funny or whatever else, as long as it's being productive and not talking, you know, like, I'm all about it. Yeah.

That dude is so consistent. He does this show like he hosts space four times a day, like one in the morning, 1:00 in the afternoon, one in the little bit after afternoon and one in the evening. And all of them got a different like little celebrity host that they come on talk to. They may bring up founders, they may bring up NFT community members, they may bring up, I don't know, they bring up anybody. But it doesn't matter who who it is that they bring up, they all get treated the same. Like the

Oh.

PFE.

Crypto.com of heart, bro. Like toward the crypto.com NFL account came on like the main account. The main account came on there and then he was talking to Alex and he was like, he was like yo y'all really doing some really interesting stuff up here. Like I really like it. And the Alex is like man, what the fuck? I don't give a fuck about that. And blah blah blah. And he just went off on the crypto.com account.

Is it comedy though? Or is it actually productive stuff like?

OK.

Alright.

No, it's both. It's both, bro. It's. I don't even know how it's. It's like it's productive and it's comedy cause like the.

Jump in, feel it, bro. It's like we cannot explain sex in here. It's, it's, it's, it's it's crazy, man.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I will. I will now. Yeah, I will. I will. Yeah, I will. I will, I will. I wanna make sure they all are walking away with them. But yeah, I'm gonna go experience it myself. For show. For show.

Bro, he was roasting. Um, founders of Project, but in such a nice way. Yeah bro, it was really crazy, man.

Alright.

I guess there's something to it, you know, like, just wanted to give you a shout and say thank you for fucking sending everybody over. Good time. If y'all don't know, is that going to be a consistent joke? 10:00 AM every Sunday from now on, flex?

Yeah, 00 coins has sponsored to do that, bro. So he's gonna make sure that it happens every week.

I love that. I love that. I love that maybe we Dylan's been an elusive fucking guy on Sundays but look it's NFL Sunday so I kind of get it. But yeah he's a he's a busy busy dude but I'm going to try and get him in as many as we can from here on out as long as we're we're keeping consistent I think it's we're going to get more and more but you'll fireball I invited you up because I wanted to chat about the the the the when I kind of wanted to continue the question that flexor asking the last in t

Like a staple for pretty much every project because like, what I'm realizing now is people don't even have like, I was in a space yesterday, right? And I get it for like the novice that's coming in. It's like, well, what are you using Ms for? And it's like, well, human readable wallet. And I get that for people maybe that don't have that that level flex calls like that techie expertise. But I think we need to do a better job of just having a baseline explanation of like what exactly am I using t

Shoot, I'm traveling all day. Just saw this. Let's do one week. One day this week for sure. Alright. There you go. This is Dylan.

Baseline definition, right? And then we can kind of get into like why does this need to be a staple for every like NFT project?

So I'll give you my perspective and you, you guys probably won't like what I'm going to say because it's not simple, right? But you guys don't want business person. Look, I I generally anytime I feel like I need to be prepared to speak on something, I've got my 32nd version, I've got my 62nd version, I've got my 5 minute version and then I've got like a full presentation, right? So you know, and you guys have all heard the term elevator speech, so usually, you know, if I've got 30 seconds, I I'm

Use case I'm I'm talking about the simplicity of it. You know if you've got 60 seconds right then I'm talking about both the utility of the wallet itself but also I I like to start people off with like what is web three. I think you know what I found is like people really that read is web one read write is Web 2, read write own is web three really resonates with a lot of people. So I try to work that in if I you know it's 60 seconds if I have a 5 minutes I hit that I hit the wallet use cases.

But I what I also find that really resonates with people is I talk about, I compare ENS to kind of like your spaceship. Like, this is my analogy. And I'm like, look, when you dock on planet, you know, Instagram planet, Facebook, whatever, like everything, everything's there, right? You leave with an empty spaceship. I'm like, now imagine a world where like when you, your spaceship left that planet, everything came with it. Your tweets, your videos, your your, your contributions, your followers,

We're looking to do with DNS, but make it so it's easy to follow so that that's what I focus on. But honestly, I think you gotta practice it, right? You really do have to practice, you know, deliberately, how do I explain this in 30 seconds? How do I explain this in 60 seconds? You know, what is my 5 minute speech look like? Because you're going to, I mean, you guys are in that position a lot, right? And eventually you're going to be in those positions to answer that question where it's really,

Versions and practice.

Interesting. So it's like, have the pitches at the ready, right? Like I was gonna say, like, know your audience. Yeah.

Ohh yeah no ohh yeah. I mean like yes of course you've got to know your audience right. But you've got to like there's so much content you could go in 1000 different directions with just what is web three what's crypto what spot chain what's ENS right in and yeah I mean you don't you gotta understand their their base knowledge but I think regardless of the human being and their starting point you you can tell by the situation you're going to get 3060 minutes or seconds rather or five minutes and

Just knowing like, here's how many points I can hit in that point in time. This person needs to hear these two points. So boom, just stick to that. Because otherwise, like if you get to the point where their eyes are rolling their back of head, you've lost. You've done no good, right? So that's how I approach.

Yo, what's up, Alex?

You're like.

Ohh yeah yeah yeah. Can you hear me?

Yep, got you.

Yep.

OK, um.

Let me tell you. Let me tell you when when I knew I wanted to be a part of Web three. OK, let me, let me go, let me guys give you the light bulb moment. How about that?

I started watching multi millionaire and billionaire individuals using the term metaverse. OK.

They start using this term, metaverse, and when I ask what is the Metaverse, nobody seems to know the fucking answer. So hold on a second, OK, let's hold hold on one second here. Hold on. You're telling me that all of these billionaires and multi millionaires are spending money on a thing called the Metaverse, but nobody can answer me when I ask you.

What is the metaverse?

OK, that's something I want to be a part of.

Because guess what that means it's not built yet.

That means that we have to build it right. That means that if you're there from the beginning, you're going to get a piece of that pie, right? Like, let's just just think in layman's terms. You know what I mean? Let's just think early. So you're telling me, hold on, hold on. Wait a minute. Mr Zuckerberg. Mr Who and who? Mr you're building a metaverse. What's a metaverse? Putting a fucking pair of goggles on, like a VR world. OK, that might be one. Is that is that a metaverse? I don't know. Is th

Project is that is that the Metaverse? What? What? What is it like? What is it? A piece of real estate, a piece of property. A piece of what do you do with it? What do you do with it? You just have it. You have it for what? Well, I don't know.

What fuck do you mean you don't know? That's the answer I keep getting. I don't know. What do you do with it?

Like like what? What are you building on it? What are you? What are you doing with this thing you're calling the metaverse that you don't even know what the fuck you're doing? Nobody can seem to answer me that. What is the metaverse? But you're spending billions and billions of dollars on it.

Yep.

I would.

What is it like? What is it, NFL champion? Can I ask you what is the metaverse like? What? What is it?

So, so to me and we actually talked about this the other night, right, there is only one metaverse, right. Like there is not multiple meta verses. That's an oxy, it's oxymoronic, right. The Metaverse is essentially your reality. And when you think of so here it is the metaverse is what's is what essentially augmented reality, virtual reality and your XR dimension, right, is what comprises all of the metaverse. 1 metaverse. It is the compilation and the combination of a bunch of different virtual

Worlds. It's how you experience real life. And your reality is augmented, whether you're using your phone or something else and the other device to augment your reality, right? Somebody puts a jacket on somebody that's walking by, right? Some wearable or you're fully immersed into a completely built out virtual world. But if I go from Decentraland to sandbox to the V verse to alluvium, right? I'm jumping portal to portal to portal. Like, those are not different meta verses. Those are different v

That make up just one metaverse.

That's it. I have fireball, got boobs and fireball and then wait.

OK.

I don't want it to jump in that, so I will come later Fireball, go on.

To have fireball, then, then wait and see.

Yeah. I mean my, my simple definition of of members and I agree with what you're saying. I mean, like look, there are like little mini neighborhoods within the metaverse, but it's one. But I I describe it as, it's a digital layer that sits across the top of the physical plane that we live in and that interacts with it, right. But the metaverse, I mean that already exists clearly with the Internet. But I think the metaverse where that becomes differentiated is where people in things and assets an

And seamlessly integrate and move back and forth between that physical realm and that digital realm with again, seamlessly is the keyword. That, to me, is what the metaverse is and will be.

Love that.

So like cross compatible, I guess you're saying cross compatible.

Right. Exactly. Like imagine like I'm walking down the street in in midtown Manhattan, right. And I got a R contacts in, OK. And I look over and I, you know, pop up sign for this or that that, you know the the algorithm knows I'm going to be interested in or there's a menu for this restaurant, right. I'm interacting with those things, you know, around me which are in the digital layer, but they're they're just sitting right next to the physical plane that I'm actually in. In. The interaction is

And send something from my physical world, tangible Fiat cash, right? Two, you know the wallet of you know, whomever that is selling this good that I think my wife would really like where? So yeah, I think the AR to me AR is much more significant part of it that I think people just think VR and they think I'm just immersed in this world. To me it's no, it's like you, you can have that if you want, but you don't have to have that. You already experience the amount of in your everyday life.

Got your wave. What's up?

Yeah, I kinda think of, um, Web 2 as a deck of cards and Web 3 as a Rubik's Cube, so that that would be kind of an easy way that I kind of described the differences between the two. That web three is multifaceted. You can twist and turn the Rubik's Cube and you can make your own combinations in ways that were never possible before. And so that would be one. And then the second thing I would say is kind of describing Web 3 versus web 2.

Well, web three, it works like an e-mail and behaves like a bank account. Uh, and acts like your ID all in one. And kind of just with those three simple analogies in everyday life. It's quite easy then for someone to understand ohh OK e-mail and a bank account. That's interesting. What's going on there? And then the third part on the Metaverse component. So for me, the Metaverse needs to be truly interoperable.

Meaning you need to be able to navigate across different platforms, chains, foundations, infrastructure, but it needs to be interoperable from a chain perspective and then the way you engage with the metaverse would be cross device. So whatever your preference is for your method of engaging content, because don't forget not everyone has a 2020 vision, not everyone can hear properly.

Um, so if you've got impartial hearing or impartial sight, does that mean that other people are excluded from the metaverse? I don't think so. So I think the Metaverse is, is something that's evolving. It needs to be interoperable and it needs to be navigatable across multiple device experiences.

So smooth when you break this shit down. Yo Steven, then zombie. What's up, PM?

Yo.

Hello, GM.

Yes, ma'am.

Miss me, Steven?

Yeah.

Blaxter fireball.

Wow.

And Lily?

I'm positive they're like.

I have every, every single day, Emily. Every single day since the since the conference. I'm just like man, where's she been?

Emily, how are you?

So boring. So boring without me, right? I'm good. I'm.

Ever every we were talking or Steven was mentioning your technology earlier and we didn't, we didn't get a chance to go down too deep down that road. But I think what you're doing is going to be a game changer.

We're going to today, my boy.

I am trying to change the game. What I'm really trying to do is keep all of your shit in your wallet because people are really good at getting them drained and we don't like that. That is not good for.

Anything.

You know any sort of a financial investment, it shouldn't be that easy to lose right? Like people are cashing out their 401K's and investing them and eat and stuff and losing it all, which is like a God damn tragedy, so.

I'm gonna tie it up for you.

OK, before before we get too deep into the tech talk and like really understanding what it is that you're doing with your project, can everybody please make sure they go up to the top of the space, click the pin, tweet, retweet it. Let's get this space out there and form more people. Even if it's just like quote retweeting and tagging a couple communities you're involved with. We want this thing to be cross community.

Wait, wait, wait. Regular, regular read tweet. Is it better than a quote retweet? And it is in fact better if the host of the space makes the post that we share.

Agreed, but for some.

There's a little, I mean, that's just a little algo hack for you.

All right.

Next week.

Yeah, for some. For some reason, the post wasn't working at the bottom. So I just. I just said fuck it, I'm gonna do it live.

Yeah, and you ready for this? This is the funniest one. The more people react, right? Like clap and give hearts and laugh and shit like that pushes the actual space to the front of the list.

Yo-yo, mother, fucking better start clapping emojis and I don't care what you gotta do. Let's go.

It's fucking you.

Right. Can I get some fist bumps up in here? Let's fucking go. Hundreds. Give it 100. I'm kidding. That's so not me. I, like, literally can't vibe with that. Someone else has to be the shitty radio DJ.

I'm like, what is going on? The two of you came back hungover, but like, Vegas was they like freaking weeks ago? Like, what's up?

Terrible.

We just sound hungover forever.

Forever.

Yeah, I like literally had to tap out of last night events cause I was like guys, I can't with you. I'm like so sick of looking at your faces.

Talking to people, I still have like a horse voice.

They are dressed up as bananas, bro.

Boy.

I don't know that like video of them all doing the the cancan line. I didn't.

It was so much fucking fun. It was so much fucking fun.

I want to hear all about this.

Up and then it costume.

I left my banana costume in the room because I couldn't fit it with all the shit that Sophia left behind that I had to bring home for her. But like, it's fine, whatever. I don't care.

They're very funny.

Ohh banana costume. Alright, let's let's look. Alright, let's finish up this round. Steven, you want to go with on the metaverse and then I want to go to zombie and then and we'll tie it up for you and how to keep your wallets fucking safe.

You can see.

Yeah, my, my only comment on the metaverse thing is like to flexera's question. I think that where we're at in the stage of like metaverse evolution in the way that it's defined, it's OK for it to have multiple definitions at this stage of the game because the more people are talking about it, the better. And at the same time, it can be seen as an evolution, it can be seen as multiple things eventually coming into one larger definition. At the end of the day, that's just my personal $0.02 on it,

Zombie.

Yeah, let's I believe we were going over to was it? Yeah, it was zombie.

Yeah, what's up everyone? So, uh, what everybody was saying, that's like spot on because there is many, there's many definitions and many ways to utilize the the Metaverse. Like you can use it as a place to sell your items, that place for it to have social gatherings and things like that. Like me, personally, I I really think of it as a a social.

Maybe like a social gathering kind of thing. And and then I look at it like it's another layer in social media. Like we have the Twitter and the Instagram and then when the Metaverse comes, we'll have the Twitter and the Instagram links that lead like it'll be portal back and forth. So I look at the metaverse as like another layer of social media, another layer of social gathering, another layer of.

Being able to sell and market and monetize yourself and you know, saying there's many different definitions, but I think the most, the most important part when the definition part comes it, it really depends on the person that's utilizing the metaverse. That's really what's going to, you know, depict each person's definition because we're all going to be doing different things in the metaverse. So we're all going to have different views and opinions of the Metaverse.

Pink Facts, I think what people don't realize also is like, exactly like you just said, zombie, like people are using the metaverse for completely different things, right? And if we want to tie it into, you know, everything that we're doing right on the ENS side, like you can have your ENS domain legitimately be like the name of your town, your neighborhood, your street, right? Plug into your different neighbors, your different neighbors, businesses, right. I mean, get creative. And what I mean

Really is like zombie literally set up his entire fucking spatial, some record room to where you know what, he and we were laughing about it today because it's like he set up a record room right? With platinum plaques that says the first person that's actually going to sell a million sub domains is going to get one of these platinum plaques 100,000 you get a gold plaque just like in the music industry. Like that's boss. Like that's amazing. Like your game. He's gamifying right? The incentive alr

So that, like, that's the stuff that I'm talking about. Yo, what's up, punk? And then we're gonna tie up M what's going on?

Yeah. Uh, so I I I had to jump in the shower real quick. Just listen to the convo and man, this is my jam right here, right? What is the metaverse? Define the metaverse. I'm about to jump on that soapbox real quick, because look, the metaverse.

What you gotta do, if you want to know anything about P2P technology, cryptography, you gotta go back. You gotta read the original articles by the people who did this. So when we're sitting around here saying we're early, yeah, you know, fine, what? We got into ENS early because we're able to register some, you know, as we like to use the word some grail, we got our hands on some digital assets nobody is going to be able to get unless they pay for them. That's how we're early. But this technolog

This technology goes back to the 80s, so somebody you're going to want to learn about and read about is Timothy C May, and he is one of the original Cypher punks. You know where Cypher punks come from? Well, I'm not going to give it to y'all y'all got to educate yourself on this, but the ideas, the concepts, they go back to the 80s. And so here's a little tip, a little hint for you.

Crypto.

Uh anarchist manifesto.

Written by Timothy C May in the 80s. Go to crypto anarchism dot E dot limo. It's there, read it and it'll it'll tell you what this is all about. Because it's been there. It's just that the hardware is catching up with the mathematics and cryptography. Make no mistake, it is mathematics. So.

The very last sentence, or about one of the last sentences in the crypto anarchism manifesto, it's, you know, out of this arcane branch of mathematics will be the wire cutters that set intellectual property free. Why is that important? Well, I'm a little biased because I'm a lawyer, but make no mistake out of, you know, these cipher punks. Yeah, they were computer engineers, they were mathematicians, but there were lawyers in there as well.

Because these are the people who understand the issues. And so look at the Internet, you know. How did it start? Well, it started out of CERN, right? So, you know, that's where they're smashing these subatomic particles together. They networked a bunch of computers so they could send messages, quote, UN quote, e-mail and you know.

The Internet was this idea of decentralized computers.

Networking for communication purposes, it was supposed to be decentralized. And you can, you know, look at the the creators of the Internet, the creators of those protocols and what they wanted, what they envisioned. And like we lost, we lost two capital. And, you know, we got Fang, right. We got Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google, they own the Internet. What does that mean? Well.

What account do you own? None. Until recently. Once you got your DNS name and some of these service started implementing single sign on with Ethereum. Now you own it. That is the Metaverse ownership and control. You know you're here on Twitter, you post something, you don't own it. You're generating traffic for Twitter. They are monetizing your content, your traffic. You post a photo, they get legal rights to it. You know they can shut down your account.

Sort of like um NFL champion was saying, right? If I jumped from Twitter to Instagram, I don't take my handle with me. I don't own it. I can't monetize it. I can't sell it well.

That's the metaverse. I just got back control and ownership of my identity. Now when I jump from one virtual world to the next, I'm taking ENS, punks dot, ETH with me. I can sell it, I can monetize it. And so it is all intellectual property at the end of the day. And you know.

In the real world, right, if I go to you know, I have a bank account with you know, it's US centric but let's say Bank of America, I can't go over to Wells Fargo and Boom there's my account right there and there's my funds. No, but with the metaverse taking back ownership and control. So that is real world that is brick and mortar where my wallet is my wallet, I can take it from meta mask to Coinbase, wallet to trust wallet in my account. My funds are in these competing services.

You know, so these it's like you're ripping out the middle men from brick and mortar, from IRL bank accounts to the virtual the digital assets. Which.

Face it, those are the biggest companies in the world and the Internet hasn't been around that long. That is because the value is there. Again, it all comes down to traffic, monetization of that traffic and ownership over content that you create and your digital assets. That's what the metaverse is. I mean, I'll, I'll leave it with this, right, take Facebook.

One of the world's most valuable companies. And again intellectual property, it is the most valuable intangible asset that any business owns. So I I challenge anybody, find another billion dollar company that has voluntarily and willfully dropped their name and changed it. Nobody does that. Why? Because Facebook on its own is probably worth $80 billion, just the intellectual property of it. But they did it and they changed it.

But they change it to meta. Why did they change it to meta? Well, they want to be identified with the metaverse. They want to control the narrative. That is their bread and butter. Owning your data, owning your account, owning your traffic and monetizing it. They want people to think Metaverse is some cartoon world that Mark Zuckerberg built and is owned by Meta. That is not it. The idea is the assets, your account in those meta.

Metaverse world you will be able to take with you to other worlds anybody can build and you know you don't lose anything. You own stuff. So that would be my two cents and again the idea there is I know I got that legal bias about it but man I want everybody you know when you got that time go to crypto anarchism dot E dot limo read that original manifesto by Timothy C May and you know you will start to understand like.

OK, people have been doing and talking about this since the 80s and government has been cracking down on those very people. Cypher Punks went to jail in, you know, mid 90s. In that manifesto they talked about it that, you know, in these European conferences where the cryptographers went to to discuss P2P technologies and cryptography. The NSA was there from the beginning from the 80s. Government and businesses have their eye on this stuff.

And so it's like, again, all I need to do is point to Facebook dropping, you know, a, A brand I that is worth as much as Facebook is to rebrand. That does not happen, does not happen by accident. And that's an attack. That's an attack on the idea that they don't want people to realize you can own and control.

Stuff that you gave up a long time ago on the Internet. So I think that's that's my interpretation, the way I describe metaverse to people.

So punk. I love that. I really do like that. What what you just described is, it's so funny because that's what I described is Web three. That's my Web 3, right? Like the cut. Like it's the creator economy, right? The ownership of your own data, right? Like you decide, right? What happens to the stuff that you create. That just seems like basic human fucking logic to me, right? Like what Punk was saying, why are you going to give, like, why you go put your money on YouTube, right? Why are these,

Patreon. Like why are you giving a huge chunk of your money to somebody else? Alright, maybe they gave you a set of tools, but if you had the tools to be able to actually do it right on your dot ETH name right now, you could do probably just the same I've created, we've created minting sites, right. People have come and actually minted NFT's off of their duties. Domains like musicians, artists, like you name it. Like this shirt is possible and it's happening like right now. Yo Nikki, my my fault

Hey you.

You good? You're on mute, bro?

I'm up here for the cloud. Just wanna be seen, man. I got you. The way I see this is punks. And that's what we were talking about the other day. It's like, for those of you that know what basic attention token is, right? Like the brave browser, like they literally give you tokens, right? To ultimately use their browser. But what those tokens allow you to do is when you're surfing, it's like if Toyota wants to show a car ad, right, Toyota?

Has to pay me for my attention.

That's it. Like they have to pay me, because right now the thing that's being monetized is us.

We are the product to go to everything, all those Fang companies, right? Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google. It's us. Google doesn't get to $1.3 trillion if we are not the actual product. And when you talk about putting an Oculus on and everything else, and you start stepping into these virtual worlds, that data collection is only going to grow. I'm not saying do or don't do it right, but that's something that you need to consider. Like when they start heart rate, pupil dilation. How are w

We can go down at some point. Definitely not today, but yo, and what's up, you alive?

I'm alive. What's up?

I don't know. I want to talk about wallet security because like the other day I I think I was mentioning it to you. My friend Jeannie was running a space with somebody from the like a project that was being that was in the hug incubator. And when I listened like to what she was pitching, I was like, Oh my God, this is really where like this industry is right now because it was so simplistic. It's essentially like what she was doing for wallet security was an insurance policy. Literally that simp

Yeah, I was like I was. Everyone's paying the tuition.

Hmm.

I've honestly God, I'd love to know who's selling insurance and not partnered with me because they are going to be fucked. I could never and I worked in insurance software. I could never write a rating table for your dgen asses like good fucking luck. I would probably charge you triple the value of your portfolio annually to ensure you.

Because she's so warm, guys. She's such a warm inviting again.

OK, OK, but like for reals? For reals like, people do the stupidest shit and it is unbearable.

Hey, what if it's all she knows?

And you're set up for it. You're, you're set up for it, right? Like here's the thing. You get in these NFT projects and they're like ohh like yeah, join our token gated discord for our alpha chat and then go our talk and get a website to get your truck and get it. Merge every single token gate that's there. I don't know if you know this, but on open seat, open sea is an off chain marketplace. So when you sell an NFT from a collection for the first time, you're giving it set approval for all. The

To take every other NFT that you own and that collection that you didn't sell is right it transaction using a seaport contract and the 2nd that you connected your wallet to my token gated website. I have permission to do that.

Like, people don't understand just how delicate this is. Every time that you connect to a token, get inside, you're just like, blank check, blank check, blank check. Oh, I'm walking down, I'm walking down the street, and I want to go to this part of town. And there's just like a thug standing there demanding wallets and people are dumping them in his bag. It is fucking wild to me.

OK, so I want you to dumb it down for us because I and if you don't, then I'm gonna ask you questions to like literally give it to us like Barney style.

Yeah, OK, let me, let me dumb it down. Let me dumb it down.

You are.

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Really.

I don't know. I was trying to listen to you up. My fault.

Uh-huh. OK. Every time that you connect your wallet to a site.

You have just exposed every asset you have in that wallet.

Every. Single one.

So like every time that you go through token gating anything, right fireball, just your question out there, but anytime that you are connecting you're saying take my wallet, right? You are trusting every time that you connect your wallet, you are trusting that they are not a bad actor.

OK.

So many questions. I wanna let fireball then wave you go.

Yeah. So Emily sees I could ask 1000 questions, right. So, so I'm, I'm super paranoid about this, right? I I generally like my.

Uh.

My method involves like four or five different laptops, about five different ledgers. So I won't interact with the Ledger with open C for exactly what you described, right? I was like OK clearly if I if I want to sell something that's in the Ledger wallet, they they want me to expressly give them access to everything. Now what I noticed though envision, and I want to ask you about that, is it looks like I have to approve it on my Ledger for every individual transaction. So if I want to bulk list

Vision, then open sea. And if so, how?

OK, so here's what Anna's vision is different. And your ENS domain is not an actual piece of a collection.

So it's slightly different for ENS, but surely you're collecting other NPC's? I'm looking at your profile pic right now.

OK.

Yes, yeah, but I don't keep, I do not keep any NFT's in the same wallet or interact with them out of any wallet that holds ENS.

OK, so it is, yes, it is very good to be that mindful, but let me ask you this.

Yep.

Do you remember the origin of all of your wallets? And do you know how delicate the the process is for Ledger? When Ledger generates you a new wallet and a seed phrase, they're doing it from a chip. So all that needs to happen for Ledger to give away your seed phrase to somebody is just one disgruntled employee that knows enough about the technology to be like, well, I can just, like buy this trip and generate a whole bunch of seed phrases and start guessing right? Like it's not.

For real.

As secure as you think it is.

Mango.

Tell me more.

For real, so OK so.

But would they still need the physical Ledger though?

No, not at all. Not at all.

Ohh cause they could recreate one with the seat right right where they could recreate one. OK yeah.

If they have your seed phrase, they don't eat, yeah, exactly. They just buy another one.

Right.

You don't. You don't. Yeah, your Ledger, your Ledger is literally just a device that has a chip in it that creates you a new wallet and a seed phrase based on, like, their, you know, protected security. But like the same way, the same way. Remember the slope finance attack on Solana where, like, some dumbass decided to make an entire finance application and wrote your new wallet address to, like, a publicly accessible database? That's what happened there. And someone just, like took all the seed

Ohh yeah, it's awful.

Right.

And all of these. This sounds like fun. Yeah, it's very, very easy. And like, the bottom line is my app will protect you from that. So you know, you have a very tedious and meticulous process, but like, you cannot deny how tedious that process is, right? Like, and you're not completely protected. You're still not completely protected. Right? Like you've tried to, you know, it's kind of, it's kind of like the Titanic, right where the Titanic was supposed to be the safest ship in the world because

And then, like every single one of these special containers that's supposed to keep you floating is dead.

Not yeah.

Well, it's saying.

Yeah.

Damn the old diamond Titanic. Alright, wait, I want, I want, I want you to, I want you to tell us what you actually do. But I wanna go WAVY Cam. And then you're going to give us like like the, like the really dumbed down version of exactly what your app does. Go ahead.

You bet.

Is it me wave?

Ski you're.

She was sleeping today. Kim, what's up?

Yo, what up? What up? What up?

What up?

Tim. What's Emily? Man, you speaking some truth here. What's up Steven? Nice to see you again. Punks and afford champ, everyone. Ohh. Flex at the bottom, fireball man. Yeah. So, Emily, this is the first time I speak to you personally, but I feel like this is a brilliant topic here, listening to you talk, especially when you mentioned the seaport contract, how people can exploit that vulnerability. Yeah, by the end of the day, you know, this is a wild, Wild West here, you know?

You need to know what you're doing and take extra care and double team before you hit that confirm button but at the same time.

So the Ledger, right? The Ledger, uh, takes your private keys or your seed phrases off the Internet, right? And store it on a physical device that don't that don't have nothing to do with the Internet, but meta mask do the opposite.

Yeah.

OK, hold on. Let me let me ask you something about your Ledger flow. When you set up a Ledger, you need to write down your seed phrase, right? You have to. You have to store your seed phrase somewhere. That's your backup. Where did you write it down?

Offline, offline, offline, offline, yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

Don't answer, don't, don't. Yeah, you offline, right? Like probably like a piece of paper or like you put it into a little word file and stuck it on a thumb drive and then you like hit it, right. OK, all I have to do.

Find that.

Yeah.

What do you mean all you have to do? How are you gonna get into my house if I wrote it down on a piece of paper and know where I live?

OK, so.

Ohh.

OK. OK, Emily.

That's.

I'm saying, I'm not saying like you specifically, but if I rob someone's house and like I have cased their, you know, case them and I know that they're into NFTS or crypto or whatever, I know that there's going to be some piece of paper stuffed in some corner.

Yeah, that's one off though.

How long, how long, how long? I can agree. But I can also disagree to that right? There are other ways around that right? For example, someone might know where I live and know that I have $1,000,000. You know hopefully I get $1,000,000. I know that I have $1,000,000 in some type of device which is a Ledger and I keep the the keys to that one in my house. OK one. Now to save myself from that from being robbed or anything, right? Ledger has a functionality that is the 25th.

Words, right? That you can set up on your Ledger. So if someone put a gun in your face, right, give me your 24 word seed phrase right? Even though you have 1,000,000 online Ledger on that Ledger, right, you can give it to them so you don't die, right? Guess what, they're only going to have access to that primary account in your Ledger because that's the only thing that is visible.

What?

Ooh, sort of. No, no, no. Sort of. OK, that's not. No, that's not. Listen, hold on. No, I listen, listen, hold up, hold up.

Yes Sir. Yes Sir. Google, Google right now, Google right now twenty word but go ahead, go ahead.

OK. OK. OK. OK, hold up, let's get, let's get miss security expert in here. Go ahead.

I I know what a sub wallet is.

I have written an entire thread educating the people of you know crypto on sub wallets. I need your seed phrase and then I have access to all of your sub wallets. Your private key is what unlocks an individual sub wallet. Your seed phrase is the top level.

Agree. OK, so no, hold on, hold on.

Yep.

Ah, so I didn't know that. Wait, hold on one second, Cam. I want to make the Cam. Hold on, hold on. I just want to make the distinction for everybody. So you're saying the seed phrase gives you access. So if I'm in meta mask and I hit add account, add account, add account, and I have seven different accounts, my seed phrase gives access to every fucking one of those. But the private string, that key, that private key of all those letters, that the combination of letters and numbers only gives ac

Yes.

Yeah.

Yes.

So.

We can't. OK. Thanks. That's, that's. I didn't know that.

May I ohh may I?

Yeah, got it, Kim.

Yep.

Yeah, so the seed phrase is the is the main one that cover every sub wallet, right? If if someone has that seed phrase, they can have access to your third account which is set up on that specific wallet, right, or wallet that you hold and different credit cards. So the wallet that you hold, that's for example your seed phrase. If you lose that, all the credit cards are in that one. If someone has your wallet, they have access to all of these credit card because they're in your wallet now.

One of these sub wallets, each of them has a private keys right? That will unlock it, but will only unlock that particular wallet because you you have the private.

All of them.

Your seed phrase unlocks every sub wallet.

Yes, but the private key cannot do the same thing. That's I'm trying to say.

Thank you. Thank you.

Right, yes. A private key will only unlock the individual sub wallet. Your seed phrase interacts or unlocks everything below it. The seed phrase controls everything.

Yeah, OK. So.

OK, got it. Hold.

There you go, this, this, this way. You don't follow me Emily, because the functionality of the Ledger that I just say right? That is not a sub wallet to your main wallet. That is another complete different hidden section. In order for that to be accessible, you need to put in the 25th Ward first. So that's kind of different from the software. I don't know if you follow me.

Thank you.

Yep.

Yep.

OK.

Go ahead.

Yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm with you. Um, OK, so I have to leave in like 4 minutes. But no matter what the the bottom line is that Ledger is never going to protect you from being socially engineered. If I connect my wallet, if I connect my Ledger to a site to get access because I have a token gated something that I want, and I've been socially engineered to go to the wrong site, that's it. The end. I connected. It's over. It's game over. So OK, so here's yeah, I got a I got a call at one, but.

OK.

Here is here's the way that my app works when you interact with the blockchain you're interacting with.

You're interacting on an RPC, and RPC is a remote procedure call. This is the way that your information is translated into something the blockchain can understand. Everybody is using the same RPC, right? Essentialized exchange will have their own variation. Trust Wallet has their own meta mask has their own, but they are major highways. My app gives you an individual, a custom RPC. We use your custom RPC as your unique identifier.

So it's not just your wallet that we're looking for, we're looking for, if this was on your PC, we use it as a secondary form of identification. RBC's have special functionality built in that's going to aggregate a lot more data from the blockchain until you actually, oh, this contract has stolen, you know, 50 board apes in the last two hours. Are you sure you want to sign that? Because you probably don't. Beyond that, we also will use your unique RPC as a form of authentication, so we monitor t

Come through. That's not using your second form of identification, right? It's your wallet, not your RPC. Then we'll pull whatever they're trying to take into your backup wallet. So we're going to rescue it before it's lost forever.

It is, yeah.

Yep.

Yeah.

So it's like a panic room essentially, right. If you notice there's something going on, it's like the panic room for OK so now for everybody just so I could run this down when she says RPC, mempool, like I want to just kind of define these, right. RPC is if you've ever, however long you've been in crypto though right if you've been encrypted before, Meta Mask added to just add network fucking button. You know exactly what an RPC is. You have to add the RP. It's your node, right? It's an RPC, the

Is essentially what Emily is assigning you. So and there is no one RPC that is ever going to be the same in terms of your customers.

Correct. And we even use multiple sources to generate different RPC's. So even if someone is trying to like, break apart a technology or randomizing where we're getting your RPC generated from, so it's like just kind of a knot on top of a knot on top of a knot. And then, you know, we of course, don't store any of that. We store that, you've been validated, but we don't store any of that information. We don't store any of your transaction information. So you can't come at us with like a replay at

OK, I wanna let wave you jump in because I'm sure you got a ton to say.

Are you excited? You should be excited.

Um.

Yeah.

Yeah, wow how many? You just blew me away with like that that second layer of like confirmation and ohh well I honestly I'm I'm fucking blown away and I wanna know how. How do I sign up for the app? What's the process? But the second, the real question I got is what you mentioned earlier about the seaport contract and token gated experiences. So like when you sell a collection for the first time and you always have to authorize.

Yeah.

Correct.

Yep.

Um, the seaport contract, just like you mentioned on Openc, right? And when you do that, it's authorizing that you're allowing open seal the seaport contract to take control for the whole collection. You're authorizing the whole collection. So let's say you've done the sale and or let's say or you've got something up for sale.

Yeah, if you revoke it.

Can you revoke that contract in revoke cash or via etherscan and still and and still go to a token gated experience with a lot less risk?

If you revoke it before it sells.

OK.

OK.

I OK.

OK. OK.

It's not going to be able to sell for one, so that's problematic, right? If you're trying to make the sale you you should revoke it after it sells. Absolutely. And if you can regardless, go to a token gated experience. Token gating does not use that approval for you. Fucking shouldn't use that approval for all. Watch out for that, and hopefully it doesn't. Token gating, however, opens the channel, so I've dissected this contract with my partner.

Why?

OK.

They're like these games with my partners and what they do is they go, the first call that they make is going through your wallet and checking for set approval for alls. And then they go and they evaluate which NFT that has a set of approval for all is worth the most. And then they go down the line and they take first they take all your ETH and then they take it. So you can't even transfer anything out of there. And then they go and they take all of your all of your NFT's based on highest value

So a scenario where you might have that case, it's like for example, if you've got three of one collection, it's often the case that you're gonna buy multiple of an item, right? And you're gonna wanna keep one in reserve that you keep long term and that's the one your gold IRM or your plan and that you're gonna use for your experiences. And you might wanna sell one when the market palms and get obviously get a return. And so there might be instances where you need to keep something for sale.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then obviously you have that contract open and still want to go to a token gated experience with the same contract. So that's I didn't know that Emily. I'm really, really grateful for sharing what we have.

Thank you.

Exactly.

Yeah, totally. And it.

Ohh my dad completely.

Yeah, yeah. So you could, yeah, you could do that. And like not to mention the fact that like, you know, if you think of what your safety process is it's, it's tedious, right. Like if I want to use the utility on my NFTS, I'd rather just like have my wallet be safe and not have to like plug in which of my 17 ledgers it is, right. Like oh, I've got the color-coded ones and like my red Ledger is my short term sales and you know, like that's tedious. Why wouldn't you just secure your just secure yo

It's crazy how it doesn't even exist. Like that's crazy to me how Metamath doesn't have like we finish up a little bit of Steven.

Yeah, sure. And then I have to balance, but yeah.

Yeah. Thank. Thank you so much, Emily. And please, please, please. I can't wait to speak again. Thank you.

Yours.

Even you want to talk to crazy fans, cranky pants. I mean, before she has to leave.

Yeah.

I'm not cranky.

And thank you so much for like expanding on it. I'm gonna drop you damn in a little in a little bit. I had one question I wanted to ask you, but I want to be respectful of the fact that you gotta go.

Not true. That's erroneous.

Dave is like private, sending me hearts right now as he fucking teases me. And Dave is going to get yeah, I'm going to take, I'm going to take a screenshot and I'm going to post it.

Um.

Account.

What, you wanna know something? You drop fucking massive alpha like this, OK? The whole room is waiting on fucking bated breath to hear the next word that's coming out of your mouth, and then you leave the room. Come on now.

I gotta leave. I gotta leave him wanting more. This is it's just like dating, right? Like, don't you want to call me back? I think you do.

What the dating. Hell no. I'm going with the short thing. This ain't dating.

Go ahead, Steve, again.

There we go.

OK, hold on, I'll give you, I'll give you all the alpha. I'll give you all the alpha. You ready for this? If you want to participate in the first round of beta testing for this app, all you have to do is mint one of these pumpkin spices that's like my profile pic. I tweet about it all the time. I can like post something up there and that is going to be the first commute. It's like my little sub project. I'm just trying to get an artist paid and pay my lawyer bills and they cost like $8.00. That'

And then you get like a cute Halloween profile pic. Don't expect it to mean that's stupid. How many things do you buy once and resell? Most of them, not most of them end up in the trash. Let's be honest, entities are the same, but it will give you beta access, which is the longest free period of use for this product that is not going to be free.

Send me 8 bucks, everybody. That's financial fucking advice, OK? Just spend the 8 fucking bucks.

Yellow.

Ohh.

You know.

Yeah and I'm and I might I might use it. I'm. I'm thinking of using this little silly you know on chain punk, punk derivative as the allow list to buy our actual lifetime access token and there's only going to be like 500 of those where you get lifetime access to this app that is definitely not free. So I might use that as like an allow list item. So I can, I'll like post the collection up there.

Or a link to the the profile if that helps at all.

Please. You didn't tell me about lifetime tokens. This is amazing. We get to be part of a club together for life.

Yeah. And like I was thinking about it right. And like I was just at this web web three Expo thing and.

And like there's a lot of opportunity I think to, you know, reinforce security and.

Uh, yeah, I don't know there, you know, like I could have a little, like security, you know, detox lounge, or I don't know, like, I'm.

But do you want it?

The marketing efforts are fun, but yeah.

And you wanted to disclose like who, like if you've had if and who you've had any meetings with so far like so people know like how serious, how far along this is because I feel like as of right now, if I'm listening, yeah.

Sure. I slide into, yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know what's going to happen, but Ledger is incredibly interested in us.

Ledger knows their weakness and Ledger also doesn't have a recurring revenue model. So you know, that would be exciting, right? Like if they think our technology is legit, then why wouldn't you?

Yeah, so.

I yes.

You've met with them before. You've met with them already, or no. Or you don't have to answer. Ohh OK.

Yeah. No, we we are actively in talks.

We just got a seal. Shove into seriousness. That's what I'm talking about, Stephen. Go ahead. My bad, bro.

And ask you a question.

No, you're good. I I was just gonna say again, Emily, you've gotta be you. You have a call to be on.

What the fuck?

It's, I mean, it's with me, it's with my friend. That's like helping me with this. It's like I'm dealing her right now, telling her that I'm like a little bit late, but yeah.

OK.

You're either with me or against me, buddy. Alright, with me, without me, with me.

And.

Right. Yeah.

Why? Why can't I throw up the peace sign and just like, leave anymore? They took that emoji away from me.

Yeah, it did no more.

They like, I don't understand. They're not in here, right? Like, there's no way. Twitter is actually actively watching what goes on in spaces. There's no fucking way.

OK, so can I just give the quick summary recap here real quick? Let me try and do it just this like simpleton terms, right? So what Emily is working on right now, OK, is essentially a security measure, right, for all of our hot wallets and our cold wallets, right? To where if somebody is going to try and steal your shit, whether it's you clicked on something by accident, you opened up the gateway, whatever it is she is going or she has.

Really. And correct me if I'm wrong. Patent pending.

Yeah, it's patent pending.

Patent pending, OK. And ultimately it's the panic room for hey, this private node that we gave you, this private RPC that is all yours and only yours identified this guy that's trying to come through here as malicious is going to try and rob all your shit. So you know what, grab the wife and kids, let's get into the panic room and it pulls all your stuff into another wallet before it gets to any of your stuff now. And just to confirm, we didn't touch on this crypto.

And NFT correct.

Yeah, crypto and NFT. So anything that they can steal from you, we can protect.

OK, got it. So any ERC 20?

Yep.

Yeah, we're, yeah, we're starting, we're starting with EVM protocols, right. Like specifically starting with ERC and ETHERIUM. But like we're going to build it out fast and we'll probably like put it up to the community to say like what do you want us to protect next? And then we'll like build out that functionality.

That's amazing.

That's me.

It's Simply put, like this is transaction based security that there is currently no solution for. Like this is the only solution available for transaction based security. There's a lot of things up there out there that are like, oh, get this browser extension or like we'll replay your transaction on a whole blockchain and tell you exactly what's going to happen. But like that's the equivalent of a warning sign before you walk off a Cliff. And this is a gate. And sorry, this is a fence.

M.

No, go ahead.

Yeah.

So.

Emily, just just a quick question. I'm really sorry to interrupt. Um, do you get any false positives in terms of reads and how do you handle that? And relating to that, what would you do when there's like a brand new contract maybe with no history? How quick would this system pick up like malicious footprints maybe?

Wicked.

So that is going to evolve over time, right? And we can give you as much as much data as possible, but there is definitely a few functions that people write into smart contracts that are absolute red flags. So when you go to make a transaction, you would have our app open and you would get an alert that says something like, oh, this is like a yellow like, pay attention, it's probably OK. But if we see something like a set approval for all, we're going to be like red fucking flag, dude. Double ch

Is likely not safe, right? And then, you know, there's going to be some manual options in there where it's like, if you want us to break down every fucking detail for you, like, just send us a message and we will, and then you can come back to it later. Like, that's fine. It's just a lot of.

Thank you so much.

It's, you know, it's your FOMO. It's your FOMO insurance policy like and and The thing is right. The thing is did fireball leave? I don't know he deemed me earlier. And The thing is, is like there's not insurance is starting to come out for this stuff but like it's just so ridiculous to like rate, right? Like for for me to check the number of transactions that any like active degen is making or like the value, the total value of your NFT portfolio which is also very hard to estimate.

Because like someone can list, you know, the only token and a ten piece collection that's for sale at like an absolute meme price of 100 each. And that's going to say your portfolio is worth than 100 ETH plus whatever else is in there, right? Like that rating is.

Yeah, jump in flex or anytime.

And just real quick, if like just give me one second, somebody just give me from the crowd and said, wow, this really is amazing. Like, she just blew my mind. So it's about time you got in here. And what we're going to do now is we're going to craft the plan to get every single wallet provider in this fucking spaces to actually listen to what you're doing. And we're going to pack these spaces in. And I know that Fletcher is going to back me up on that shit too, because there's no reason why we s

Right. Yeah, I mean and no matter what like my goal is not to like own the market on this, right. We're happy to license out our technology. That's part of why we patented it and you know we want other people licensing it and using it. I just want to keep the eat in the ecosystem with the people that are using it, but keep your bags yours, don't give them away. That is tragic and awful like you're not, it's not multi generational wealth if you hand it over to a scammer.

We gotta give we give you some PR training.

I, I, I, I am on the edge of my seat. I'm on the edge of my seat. I think that everything you guys are saying is absolutely 100 per second and and.

Did you know this is who you were sitting next to all last week? Lexter? Are you like? What the fuck?

Modest much?

Yeah, I mean, I know. I I mean, like, you know, I I knew that you had this project. I knew that you had this, but, well, we had chicken and waffles together, guys.

Ohh.

That was good chicken and waffles.

Yes. Me and Emily love script, though. Both had the chicken and waffles. Absolutely amazing. Anyway, I think that what you guys are talking about is is just phenomenal. Phenomenal, phenomenal. And I'm, I'm, I'm happy to be early and I'm hoping that you know, when everything launches and you get you know all your stuff going that that you definitely invite everybody in this room to be a part of that project. So thank you guys. I'm actually going to bounce out here. I got about to do another space

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or, uh, you know what I could drop? I mean, besides it, chale. Chale is the one. I don't want to take credit for it. Shale is the one that brought it up. But if you guys want to hear the newest conspiracy, the 50 people, the the 50 people on the rocket ship are going to be the 50 people that create the ENS Maxis Dow.

Ohh.

What the fuck?

What?

So that's the new conspiracy. So I'm jumping around in a maxi space real quick. I'd love you. Thank you for the office hours. Thank you for all of the alpha. Emily loves crypto. You are my favorite. You know that Steven and I and Fireball have all got together and have confirmed that you are officially anytime you wish to be a guest shark. Welcome on the Shark Tank every Tuesday at 5:00 PM Eastern. So, Umm, you know, we love, we love your feedback. We love your energy. We love your enthusiasm. W

I know, right?

After.

I was gonna.

The chair straight up. If you guys weren't listening to the Vegas, if you guys weren't listening to the Vegas show, I gave Emily my chair because their evaluations are spot on. So thank you guys so much for having me.

Thanks.

You're no Mickey Mouse.

Say Emily, I feel Mickey Mouse compared to you, your knowledge is phenomenal, honestly, like you'd be a huge asset in terms of valuation for web three. So like, really amazing. Thank you.

Man.

Yeah, for sure. I feel really bad for like leaving my friend hanging. I'm gonna try to come back though.

OK, well, you know what we do is every single sentence.

But she's like basically working for free for me right now, so I like need to give her my time.

I know. I got you. I got you. And listen, no, in all seriousness, thanks for coming by him like you. Let me know when you wanna run one this week. I'll do the like. We'll see. I'll set up the promo like me. Steven, what are we gonna do?

Yeah, go nuts.

No.

It is.

Yeah.

Yeah, go nuts. Let me know what day. Let's coordinate. Let's plan. Not just yeah, if I can go crazy, just tell me when to show up.

OK, Tuesday Thursdays are better for me. How about that?

OK. Done deal. You got it. So we'll choose probably let's do Thursday, it'll probably be a little bit easier, but thank you.

OK, I gotta.

I get the Bugatti here and Oh my God.

Ohh.

Yeah.

Yeah, definitely. Nice. Cool, nice, nice. You definitely sound like you got a lot of nugget though. So yeah, let's connect, let's connect. Let's do this together. Thank you.

Kim.

Of course I got a lot going on, but I gotta bounce and I'm like 15 minutes late for my friend. I feel really terrible. I'll try to be back if you're still running.

Uh, yeah. Talk, talk some shit. Thanks.

You're bullshit.

Alright, leave. I'm gonna talk shit about you. Alright, sweet. I'm gonna talk shit about you. See, on Shark Tank, it's such bullshit. What the fuck? I've been putting in time and effort on the Shark Tank. That's bullshit.

Bullshit.

Man bullshit. Exactly. Some bullshit. Emily throwing me hard right now, by the way.

Yo, see what I told? I told you guys. I told you.

WAVY impressive, no? To impress you.

Yeah, really man. Like just up, I mean 15 minutes being blessed with that knowledge, it's more, I got more in that 15 minutes than I have done the whole of this week.

You spent this whole week with me? God damn, the shots just keep on coming. What the fuck?

I'm mad love, brother.

Yo, she's got you know I'm serious. Like when she first pitched it to us.

Right, Kim like.

Yeah, for sure.

No, she got that real alpha, bro. She got UPS knowledge. We definitely need some more female that energy, that type of energy, man, because I'm all about that security itself.

She's a little cranky pants, though, sometimes. Isn't she a little cranky? Sometimes I want not. I thought Emily so hard, like, I remember like, Emily knows her shit, right? And the way in which she talked. Like that confidence doesn't. Like, it can come off as like, oh, like, no. But like, you have to listen to the words that come out of people's mouth and like, people can't just judge. Like, that shit is gold right there. When she first told it to me, Steven, we were just like, wait, what the

It is.

Doesn't exist. And she was like, no, yeah.

And and and to have that level of detail in terms of knowledge and intricacy in terms of, um, RPC nodes and being able to individualize them at a kind of a drivers license level. I didn't even know that this was a thing yet. So and the way she described it, it clicked immediately. So it was really beautiful.

Yeah, if you guys can just retweet. Just we pinned her, she pinned her thing at the top is foolproof app. Open that up and just hit the retweet button and retweet that. We're going, we're going to schedule Emily in like on probably next Thursday. So Mark your calendars because she's going to come in here maybe with her dad, like maybe somebody else on her team. But like, she's literally like a mom that's like working her ass off, like, and at least not like this. Like she's a regular human being

She's a mom at home and she's like trying to make this shit work and she juggles a shit ton and she doesn't really fucking well. But she needs a set. Like she needs a deal to close, right. It's not desperation at the end of the day, but if we can help and play a role in that, we benefit from that shit, we benefit from it. So you've been really, I'm buying that, that, that, that PFP spending whatever it is, the 8 bucks. And yeah, this is financial advice. I'd go get in the beta, start getting use

Like, come on.

Like, you're meeting with like the top, the people that are at the top of the game. So like, yeah, hats off to Emily. Like really, really big shout out. Don't tell her I said that, OK?

Yeah, does the sorry does the the the PIN tweet because I was I was looking at it. Does it have the link to?

The collection that she's trying to refer to the the one for 8 bucks.

Wow. Knowing her, she probably didn't have it. Let me just see for a second.

Delete the. The two doesn't have it, but her own profile does have it because I got it from there.

OK. So yeah.

Bro, that's the $1,000,000 question right now. Because I'm looking for that link too, man.

Yeah, so that's that's exactly the reason why I asked for. Yeah, if you want to go on file and they find it there, these two don't have it.

Alright, I'll pin, I'll pin that one up also if you wanna go there now and obviously do it, but at least retweet the pin, tweet on top and then you can go, you can go buy that NFT. And don't forget you're also going to be doing like some sort of like a lifetime pass or something. But yeah, I want a million on my team always, you know what I mean? Like somebody like like that's why I wanted my team so good. Shit.

Damn, that was super. Like, I hate saying this word, but that that right there is what people need to say is alpha.

Like that's the definition of it right there.

Man, right.

What else we got Scott. He's blessed. Look, he's got his helmet on. You trying to be one of the 50 Scotties that's ready to blast off into outer space or his fireball would call it California.

I.

Alright, hold on.

Wouldn't be a Dave office hours if it didn't have the sirens in that fire trucks in the background, hopefully.

Yeah. Everybody take two minutes and do the retweet thing, and then I'm gonna go sign it. Yeah, better believe that. Yeah. Yeah. There's silence. Don't worry about it. We're good. Retweet the top pin. Tweet.

And then go to Emily's page.

In her profile. And if you want to, but you probably fucking should.

Be a part of the beta. I know I sure should wanna be.

Absolutely.

A panic room for your crypto and your NFTS? That shit is crazy.

OK, done, done.

Emily. Emily.

He yeah, WAVY. You wanna know what Emily's dot E used to be when you used to send her a payment?

Gone.

Fuck you. Pay me.

It's so fucking dangerous.

And actually sounds gangster man. Really. She's like straight up. Yeah, real. I mean it's it's a it's yeah. Unique combination she's ringing really.

Yeah, that isn't the most fitting thing ever.

I wouldn't be surprised.

Set up.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone tell me that she's from New York. I don't know.

Ohkay.

And she lives on the. I think she's West Coast, but like yeah, she's got at. Let me tell you boy, she's got attitude like as she might as well be from fucking from the East Coast all yeah.

Because I could definitely see that Robin here. I don't know. But I can see that vibe in there. And she's funny as hell.

She she's definitely like, yeah, she's good people. Yo, what's up Jim?

Hello everyone. How are you all?

Doing good, man. How are you?

I'm fine.

Boom.

Actually.

I've been in this particular space of ENS for the past two days. Actually I I want to know like basically what is ENS and how this thing is so hyped up at this moment.

Gibbs, I seen you in spaces before. I've seen you in these spaces before. How long this? You're not brand new, are you?

What?

I said you're not brand new, are you? I've seen you in a lot of these spaces. How long have you been Indian? That's for.

Yeah, yeah, I've been in the spaces, but you know.

If I being on being as a listener, I don't know, there's some bug with my on my Twitter that you know, it disconnects every time every after every 5-6 minutes, so I have to rejoin every time, so that's why it's.

It creates, you know, problem understanding what's people really discussing in the space.

OK, so before I give you my definition and we sound redundant, why don't you tell me what you think and this is and what you're going to use it for, and then we can kind of go from there.

Sure, sure. So basically yesterday I had a conversation with a person regarding ENS. So what I understood is like.

It's your matter. It's your identity in the metaverse.

If you own a domain.

Over ENS, that is going to be your, let's say, your name in the metaverse or something.

OK.

Yeah.

That's all you got, OK.

So am I right?

So it is absolutely, it can be your 100% be your web three identity for sure, for sure, for sure, right. Every time you're going from decentralized application to decentralized application, whatever your dot E domain is, whatever is set to your primary, that's what everybody's going to see, right? Like right now I have one of mine that's set to a domain that I picked up yesterday. So every time I connect to unit swap, all you see is K pop tickets, right? I connect open CK pop tickets.

Right. That's me right before obviously, like if that's what I'm using that wallet, but if I'm using another, if I'm using my NFL champion, right, that's what people are going to see. Now from an identity perspective, that's one actual use case. There are so many different other use cases for this. And I'll give you kind of like the brief rundown so you can kind of get a get a good understanding. Do you own any dot eat yet or no jibbs?

Actually I heard some real life work and exams, so I left NFT for a while. So yeah, I learned about ENS but I am not holding it right now. But yeah, that's why I'm interested in what it is. So I should buy it.

Yes, yes.

OK, so here I'll get, I'll get, I'll give you the first few that I can think of off the top of my head, right. So you know how right now I think one of the easiest ones to talk about is the human readable wallet address. So you can now send crypto payments right to anybody that has another dotties domain and just give them your name, right? So and just give them your dot E so for me it's NFL champion dot E instead of putting in that 0X with all those different numbers.

Simply, I'm just telling them send it to NFL champion dot E.

And whether that's trust wallet Meta mask, any other compliant wallets it's going to be able to resolve and they they literally send it as if they were to the regular wallet address and you're good to go. Make sense?

Yeah, yeah.

OK, that's one. The second one you kind of covered which is like your like like identity wise. The third one I think is we're really one of the most common one or rather the most the one that we're like we see the biggest potential in and that's the ability to create sub domains off of these things. And what I mean by sub domains is for NFL champion dot E I'm able to now create another domain which is going to be an NFT once we actually have the wrapper and it has all of the exact same.

Functionality as the top level does right, meaning NFL champion and then the one underneath it has the exact same qualities except at the top level has like the master account. But ultimately this is a great way for and this is where tons of different use cases come into play. For me specifically NFL, this is a great way for any type of player to maybe interact with their fan base so you can create so many different sub domains and provide them to all of your fans.

And interact with your fans on a completely different level, right? Your socials are gonna be connected. Your fan pages to your Twitter, to your discord, right? There and then it's a way to run different contests, right? Everyone's going to have like a different wallet address, right? You can manage a different wallet from every single sub domain address. Content creators instead of paying YouTube, right? You're a content creator hosted on your site, create an IPF.

Is great at that. By the way, he's got amazing resources to be able to create like your web three or your decentralized website, promote your own stuff and get paid yourself. And then that way you now have same thing, every sub domain is another one of your fans or your paid subscribers.

Right, we talked about this yesterday. Also single sign-on with ETHERIUM, which is huge. No more remembering usernames and passwords.

Hello annoying. I can't tell you how many times I've had to hit reset password over and over and over again.

Also, we're talking about was.

It actually gets to be Gibbs. You know what DocuSign is.

Uh, no, actually, I don't.

So yeah, no, that's OK. So DocuSign is a way to electronically sign like a legal document, right? So if I need to sign some contracts, whether it's because I'm buying a house or I'm getting a divorce or I'm signing a contract for work and I got a new job, right? There needs to be signatures, right? There's been paper like up until now it's just been paper, paper, paper. But what DocuSign did is they kind of revolutionized like the signature of like of.

Like the signature game and they were saying we can do this electronically. Now what you can do is because we have the ability to do single sign on, if you can send contracts now you can send contracts to where like the protection you have is not just the security of your e-mail, right, where who knows like anybody, everybody and anybody can see it. Now you can send, right.

Literally send and contract to someone it doesn't like. You have the privacy even though you're on Ethereum, right? Like where the only the person at the other end it's encrypted, the only the person at the other end is the only person that can see it. Let's say you're getting a job offer.

Hopefully.

And the same thing goes vice versa. And then you sign it electronically and boom, it automatically shoots back to that person. Think about how that's going to revolutionize the real estate industry, the legal profession, just to name 2. How much paperwork do we actually do today? Yep.

Yeah, that's that's really all I was intrigued by, you know when you said about the legal perspective of ENS, but I have two questions. One is.

Is there is there any relation of Ethereum 2.0 with ENS?

And the second question is like as you were talking about the legal perspective that we can sign legal contracts. So I'm a law student right now. So first of all when I enter the NFT space, I saw its that it is revolutionizing.

It was like so hyped up that yeah, now I can. At that time I didn't know that law is connected with NFTS or the Metaverse or is going to connect with NFTS or metaverse. So I had this thing in mind that yeah, I will, I will try to bring something new that will allow the Metaverse to be connected with the legal space. But now we can see there is this new field blockchain law that is coming up. But yeah, but my question is.

Is going to help me in future as well that you said that we can sign legal contracts. So legal contracts and these things are usually work in the centralized space and we when we talk about Metaverse and all web three, it's the decentralized space. So if there is some problem legal problems in the contract that we signed through ENS or digitally.

How it is going to work like I mean?

Because.

We have, we are putting the centralized system in the decentralized system. So will the policymakers, regulators are only going to work on the centralized problem or they also will also look at the decentralized version as well?

If I would, I'd be crazy to give you an answer to that one. Just, I have no idea what the regulators are thinking, what they're going to do, how they're going to respond. I honestly do not know, right? I was picking ENS punks's brain like crazy the last few days because to me, I was like, wait a minute, like, this doesn't make any sense. Can they take us down? Can they not take us down? Are we decentralized? Are we not decentralized? So I have no answer. I have no answer to that question.

You're the one that's in law school. I'd appreciate it if you come. If you go, ask the law professors and and and your other, your colleagues and your peers and come back and report to us and tell us exactly how it works.

Because there are tons of questions that are going to come in this and problems going to come in this space regarding law and the you as you were saying about the legal sign contracts. But the second thing that I wanted to want to say after just listening to you that you said that we are going to sign legal contracts. I am getting hope so much hopeful and hyped up because it was it, it is like a dream culturally sea.

A straight path on becoming the blockchain lawyer or, you know, connecting blockchain with law.

So yeah, I'm surely gonna work on this and.

Yeah.

Love it. Good stuff. I love that you're hyped about it. What's up, fireball?

At chips.

Yeah, I was. I was just gonna add a little it's just some thoughts in the legal perspective and and maybe turn it around into a question, right. So, So what do you think about like law, right. And I'm not a lawyer, but you know you've got a constitutional law, you've got you know written laws, you've got case law, right. So I would I would ask this or so I would say Web 3 introduces a lot of different things and aspects about ownership and platforms and interactions and contracts and things that

Usually gonna you know they're going to follow right the technology and the innovation by some considerable margin right. So people are gonna operate on the edges. But you know people I think people are looking at constitutional law and case law and saying OK well what is this code that governs ENS? Is it language? Is it math? I mean well it's all the above right. But but you know looking at they're going to look at things and say OK well if if you define certain terms and certain.

Days then you know according to the Constitution, I'm just speaking to the United States, right. It's legal, it's illegal, right. But then you're you're also going to have situations that case law where I mean there are going to be brands that are going to end up in court with with other people and I think that's where you incorporate domains into it, right. I mean certainly crypto Subs can be regulated. So it's going to be a multidimensional.

Situation that's I think is gonna be fluid, but until like laws are written, laws are are stress tested, right? Case laws established, I think you're gonna have, you know, kind of just like in an unknown situation for a while. But what do you think about when you think about from that angle?

DNS and you know, just the regulation in general.

Hello. Well, basically I think I literally just don't know anything about, you know, how the law is going to connect with this ENS or or the web 3 space because it's this thing is literally completely true, new and no one, not even.

Except, you know, I just said I think none, no other country is talking about, you know, bringing law in the blockchain industry.

And you know the the in the past there was this case of frosties, the two scammers or the founders who scammed the people got 20 years of jail because they scammed and got millions of dollars. But now I was like the that this NFT space is decentralized. So how come these founders?

You don't got the punishment or sentence for 20 years.

Yeah, but The thing is the the laws and regulations of every country are so are not.

Similar like what we are what the United States the laws in the United States are completely different from the laws in the in the United Kingdom.

And now there's another problem that comes up like.

The metaverse, there are no, no one, no boundaries, no borders. So there is no there's complete diversification and in its complete whole world.

And everyone is going to be cold as just a random person. Not like I am, I'm an American or I'm an English person or I I am from, you know, South Africa or something like that. They all want to say that, yeah, we are from the metaverse, we are from the web three. That's all. That's our identity.

So where do the laws in their countries work differently?

And this is creating so many confusions. Gonna create so many confusions because law.

The loan takes so much time to change. And even in my country, when the Internet came, it took six to seven years just to put new regulations on the Internet laws. And still they're working on, you know, this cyberspace.

Uh, laws still working on the cyberspace laws which have which, haven't they? They haven't completed yet.

So basically I I'm just a student learning the law and hyped up about the metaverse space. So I completely don't know what's gonna be the outcome and how we are going to perceive or, you know, see the situation of law with the metaverse.

Jibbs, maybe a quick question for you.

What would you like to identify as in the Metaverse in the future?

Like being maybe a legal student. Have you got an idea of kind of, you know, what do you want to be called in three or five years from now or what what, what would come to mind?

OK.

Basically, as a law student, I want to pursue as a lawyer. So yeah, I'm thinking of me myself as a law student, but you know.

Umm.

It's this.

Yeah, yeah.

Some. So maybe I'll give you A to give you a hint. Maybe you're like legal jibby dot ETH for example. So like what would be like a a legal nickname? That would be fun or well known in the industry. What what comes to mind?

Can you repeat? Sorry I didn't get your question.

Yeah, yeah, it's is there like a legal nickname or a a name that, you know, like the legal tough guy or whatever? I'm using a silly example, but are there some funny advertiser names in legal that you think you could use or represent yourself in the future?

OK.

OK, cool.

Yeah, of course. Of course. Because if I am becoming alive and I want to see opportunities in law in the Metaverse. So yeah, I want to be recognized as a funny or as a like aesthetic name that also shows my personality. Yeah, yeah.

OK, OK. So what I'd recommend that you do now is you start thinking and register as soon as possible and name that you resonate with and that a name that you can think are this will carry me for the next 20 or so really for the rest of your life you need to think about it. So, and The thing is you don't have to just have one name. You can have many names. You can have a gaming name, you can have a professional name, you might wanna get your legal name.

As well. And think about all of these different names and identities that you're going to want and going to need. And the sooner you register them, the sooner you're going to feel better because, and this isn't financial or legal or any type of advice whatsoever. But the point I'm trying to make is, is that we're so early right now. You've got the chance and maybe the luxury of registering some of the names that you might desire. The longer you leave it, the longer those names are going to be re

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With someone else and the likelihood is someone else will take that identity in, in the metaverse. So yeah, try and think about what's in your control now and maybe what you can do now, because I think the whole legal space is gonna take time for that to resolve, right. And as you say, it's very, very early in in the whole legal area. So like maybe think about registering a name, you know, soonish.

Think about some funny combinations and register a couple. And to give you an idea, cost. Registrations for, you know, maybe 6 or 7 characters or longer for a year might cost you no more than 30 or $40.00. So they're really, really quite, you know, that they're generally affordable.

Good jobs.

It may be rugged.

Good stuff with.

I think it's 5 minutes.

What's that? What's 5 minutes?

There's the five minutes of his disconnection time.

Uh-huh.

But the leaf button, sorry.

The.

Yeah, actually when I was answering the question before, I was also confused that how am I be able to?

Be considered in the in the Metaverse or in the NFT space. So you answered correctly because I have to choose wisely and that name will be my name for the next 20 years or next my professional life. Because I have done this mistake before as on Twitter. So the name I have is I don't want that name on Twitter, but now people recognize me with that name.

So I cannot change it.

So that's that's uh.

I will, you know, won't do that in the Metaverse.

So, yeah. Thank you.

You are welcome, Jesus, our pleasure, man. They're our pleasure.

142 Well, this might be record time wave. I feel like we got some good stuff today and unless somebody else wants to chat about anything else, which I'm happy to.

We can probably end this one here, because I feel like this is I want everybody to listen to this recording and I'm going to show the shit out of it. But if anybody has any other further questions, like, feel free to come up. We'll keep the space open for another few minutes. But yeah, this was this was good.

This was really good and effective.

So feel free to come on up y'all. Anything. Anything you want to say and you wanna chat about any issues, questions, concerns, comments, whatever.

Come through.

Shout out what's up, Nat.

Already given that to follow with curves.

Brand new project. What up, Mr 121 coming up?

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Yo-yo.

What's up?

Yo-yo.

Hi. Hi everyone. Thank you for for having me. Yeah, I just wanted to add something for jabs, you know in terms of usability and use cases obviously it's it's very early now to kind of start guessing. The most obvious is as you said in field champ basically so to speak is going to replace Patreon not as such but just you know it's going to kind of do the same thing in a way much easier way. I mean without the hassle of.

Having pass wasn't all the stuff as you as you mentioned before. I do have a question though because I came across a website today which is ENS appraiser.com.

You guys ever heard about this?

OK. So really quickly, ENS appraiser, let me just make sure this is the one came into one of my spaces one night and it was telling us about this technology, about the algorithms and all this and this and that. Now, I'm not one to knock anybody's project, but I challenged the guy essentially to come up and let's have a discussion, let's talk about like what's what longer? The short of it was it's super preliminary. There's no way they can give you an accurate reflection in terms of what your dom

Don't have enough data to be able to do that. And I told him that that was pretty dangerous. I get it. You want to give people confidence, but you also don't want to give them false hope to that, he said. I'd like to give you a lifetime subscription in case anybody wants to know, wants to actually use the tool we're going to give you. I think I have something like 300 appraisals a month or something like that for for me to use. So if anybody wants it just for, you know, whatever as as as a guide

Like the tool, not for any other reason other than the, just not enough data. So I hope that gives you context 121.

Yeah, of course, I I was just thinking just kind of the same thing. I mean it's.

It could be the only thing it could be is purely like a guess or something, I mean or or based on some pure poor metrics in terms of like the number of characters and whether it includes any key caps or digits and stuff like that. But otherwise I wouldn't see any like any viable way of kind of appraising because in the end the value of an an ENS is basically given by by the buyer so to speak or something like that.

Correct, or at least.

So no.

Yeah.

We would.

I mean I was gonna say to be fair, you can evaluate domains. I mean it is possible to do so if we remove the dot E component and you can evaluate words and the value words have. And typically the way we would do that in web two is we'd look at a search volume data so we know how much a person or a business is prepared to pay per click for a single keyword and you can normally derive.

Based on the volume of traffic or the cost, how much, how much business is prepared to pay in terms of ranking for that domain or whatever those combination of words are. You can also look at history of web 2 domains and sales, right? But I think the point with Web three is, is that there's the whole dot ETH or the Rubik's Cube layer that doesn't exist in web two and if you were to take valuations today.

Based on kind of web two history, even if there are qualified metrics and KPIs and we don't know what we don't know. So like to sell, yeah, to take valuations based on the data sources that are available whilst there are available. And yeah, they're not quite accurate. And I'd kind of echo what Champ says and that there just simply isn't enough data points.

Yeah, so I don't. I actually wasn't. What was the other one? It was in this appraiser and there was the second one. I don't think mine was in this appraiser. Mine was the other one.

Yeah, rented what you remember.

Um, wasn't it? Uh.

Wow shit, I forgot just you asked me. But come on, I've got it in my bookmarks. It was in this appraiser and.

It was like a purple sight.

Right.

Yeah, I'm just trying to remember the name. It was something similar. Hold on.

Yeah.

But.