Good morning, Glenn. How are you?

Love and light. Love and light beer. Good, good, good. No complaints here, you know?

Thank God it's Friday.

Thank God it's Friday.

Hat.

She is serious. How is it going on your side?

Uh, just studying the day.

Yeah, just just decided that OK, I'll hang on, hang out in the space a little bit and then go start, start the day. So just dropped off the kids in school and you know it's raining, so kind of cozy. How is how, how are you and are you in New York or traveling or anything.

OK.

Oh my God.

Uh, I'm still in New York. Unfortunately, it's cold outside. I can't stand the snow, but.

Yeah, it's, it's ironic. I was just speaking about you this morning. I was in a space with.

Hmm.

Of course I missed the wonderful for a couple other bullet and was speaking about the Isley.

Um.

Performance royalties and and stuff like that with.

Hmm.

People who make music, sound recordings and stuff like that. So.

We was just bringing starting what would be a good idea of having something of that sort in cup into the the NFT talk platform so.

Like you already have the transcript that.

Like single out the the individuals so rock, bully and.

Speaking in regards to um.

Hmm.

Each person would have but I and I code which is international standard name identifier. I just got one of those and yeah that that would basically.

On a commercial level, as the copyright legislation, whatever protection there is for someone.

Hmm.

Card in that that would be available to them. So it would be something of the sort like when we start the spaces, the audio we download from the NT talk would have our own international recording code.

Hmm.

And each person's voice would be the percentage for the copyright percentage would be indicated by whatever mathematics we do and and of course by how much time they speak which we could could track that also. So we're just bringing stunning that to see you know like.

I see.

If it was something that's possible.

Yeah, I mean we know how much from the, from the transcript, we know how much somebody spoke. So definitely we have that data and what we can do is.

Uh, you're thinking about injecting the ID? I'm on MP3, I think it's gonna be easy. The MP3 version, I don't know about the other formats, so MP3 allows you to create tags and identifiers and all kinds of fun stuff. So there'll be something to explore.

And the issue is, who's gonna pay it? Like, you know, like, what are they thinking? Who? Whoever plays it. I mean, who play? Who pays for it?

Yeah, so licening. So.

About the audio.

Umm.

It's been shared? Then the copyright owner would would receive royalties, of course, if they are signed up with their the correct 4000.

Right. So like if somebody were to take that audio and put it on Spotify, you mean, I mean are they gonna?

Yes, Spotify, YouTube, terrestrial radio, you name it.

Yeah.

Umm, but do they actually, do they actually honor that? I mean, do you know if they're honoring this, uh, you know, like, I don't know how they like, just because somebody, you know, let's say you, let's say that somebody downloads that audio and creates a podcast. And if they do then, then Spotify, you know?

Is first of all, Spotify sees this thing. Second of all, you know who do they pay? Because the person who who plugged it in into Spotify may not be any of you, right? It could be somebody else.

Yes, but in that case each individual would still get their mechanical royalties as it States and the copyright solar carded so in the traditional.

Hmm.

Room if I should publish music? No on Spotify I would get paid some $4000 per million streams, but also on the back end.

They call it black box and royalties. I would get an additional 0.6 cents per 100 streams also.

I see. But yeah, I mean, this has to be explored, but it has to be like, you know, like.

The the This is radio station, so to speak. Like whoever is playing have to honor that.

So I'm not, you know.

And they would. And some. The perfect person is here, Sir. Come here. Island first lady. She's she's someone who.

Hmm.

That broke broke. I'm doing the whole metadata system as it relates to the MP3, so I just kind of relates to to what I'm thinking it's something that can be established from the ISR C code, but.

Again, you could like tap in with her to. I don't know if she can get the mic or if she's willing to.

But.

Yeah, I'll. I'll, I'll. Hi. Hi, cat. Hi, Harlan. First Lady, I'll throw mikes if any of you want to talk and blame. I made you a cohost. Yeah. So.

Just studying a conversation about uh, embedding embedding individual identifier into MP3 files to see if they can be honored by, you know, people who would be playing them on other systems like Spotify or or things. So Glenn was just proposing a kind of a plan.

So, um, blam, you know, do you know of this being working somewhere like if has anybody tried that with with the, with the international identifier? Like basically you have a equivalent to what is ISBN for books and things right? So you have a identifier for a human being. Is that what you were that you got?

Personal, OK.

Yes, for your persona, yes and yes.

Correct.

And and like you know I know for books that you know you would have a international identifier for the for the books ISBN number I mean that'll be like a you know number for the book and that's how bookmark and works. So I'm assuming you know you have a you have got a similar one you you applied for it and or did you pay did you have to pay for it.

OK.

It's completely free. It's free. I'm going to post a link in the jumbo.

Yeah, sure. Um, so you're saying uh, if that was embedded if because on, on, on, on, on NFT talk, the audio that we have and because we have the transcript, we know a very close approximation of how much, how much, how much time somebody played spoke in in that in that audio. So if we were to be able to embed the and identify.

Say, OK, in this, in this, um specific audio file, there are five speakers and one of them has spoken, 30% one of them has spoken, you know, whatever and percentage and then have that information stored with as a metadata properly in the way that other third parties would owner. Then you know, anybody downloading that audio into a third party system like Spotify or whatever would be able to, you know.

Would be able to get here you know royalties for these speakers. But my question is you know the, the, the gap that I have the knowledge gap is first of all I I only know because I'm I'm not knowledgeable into all audio file formats and such. But the AC, the most advanced one, we don't play with that. We don't we just, we just assemble that and then the one that we play with is the MP3. In fact in the MP3.

We actually embed the the users the hosts of.

The profile PFP, I think we do. I mean I I I have to check it, but I think we embed the Hostess only one image of the primary host or whoever actually created the room creator. So not host. Host could be multiple people. So I think we embed the image the PFP. I'm I'm going to have to check it because it doesn't show up obviously unless you download the MP3. And for some reason I have noticed that our system is not producing the MP threes, but because it actually.

MP3 if if there's issues so it goes with the AC. But anyway this this needs to be investigated. So my issue my gap is that OK let's say we modify the MP3, put some metadata with this breakdown. Usually it would be a JSON Data like key value JSON Data where you'll have a copyright equals.

List of list of highest international identifier, personal identifier and their respective percentage of the content. And if we were to embed that, who would honor that? I would have to get references like where, which system honors that and how do they want it? And you know what will be the.

The you know, the other thing is MP. Threes can be retagged by anyone or tags can be removed by anyone. So that's a risk. Where it's not, you know, it has to be a honor system almost.

So.

Yeah, Baroness, go ahead.

I'm trying to think how that will work for audio files. I mean the what's accepted universally is the AC file.

For a lot of these corporations, Apple and Sony and so forth is empeg file and there is for like a different layering like level one, level 2, Level 3. If you embed it into a level two of the MPEG file then you could actually probably put that in.

Yeah, I'm not, I'm, I'm pretty sure we can put that in. I just need to know the, you know, like an example of, OK, this is what this is what needs to be stored because you know, we are not doing that right now. So Blam was suggesting that, you know, that could be a way for these files to be prepped and ready for you know, automated, you know, kind of kind of like royalty generation for from outside parties if somebody were to take it and put it in some system.

Like, you know, Spotify or something. So that's an interesting conversation. So that's why, you know, we need to explore. Yeah, Harlem first lady, please go ahead.

Love and light. My apologies, I called a phone call. Blame you on here teaching.

You know these are my teachers. No, but I'm sharing. Yes, I'm.

You want you staring?

That's well, well, OK. So let me and.

Oh my God.

Partly so. Kabir. He's the founder for the NFT talk platform that I am a ambus.

I'm gonna beat you. I'm going to beat you. I'm going to beat you, OK? Going to.

What you talking about?

OK.

No.

You you all I know, I heard my name and then you start talking my IRC. Now you talk my copy what?

I'm not only here to.

Yes, so so do you.

Well, we're not. We're bringing storming circa like it's.

So teaching you open it. Teaching.

It's it's audio. So I mean, I mean.

I get what you're saying.

But.

Button.

I don't know.

I guess.

It's um.

And what, what what first lady like say if you look at it like so?

Sort shot audio like what what?

The NFT talk platform is basically.

Doing is trying to monetize the audio scene, so like.

If if each person could get compensated for like times spent in spaces, it would have been something something that I think makes sense and do it to identify that I'm thinking would be through the international standard name identifier, isn't it? I wanted the reason why.

Bro, that's because.

One of the guys who I plan to collaborate with the music is from from it's.

Iran. Yes and um, I told him about. They said quote.

And he he was able to.

To obtain the estimate and he said that he got.

The access to Spotify and stuff like that, that he wasn't he. He wasn't able to get his royalties basically because of where he was in the world, so like.

To my knowledge, that code.

Is really international just by you know him sharing that. So I'm thinking that a platform such as the NFT talk, but again Sir Kabir Mohammed, my My Miss Harlem First lady has been generous, so generous and kind enough to to like share certain certain like gyms.

About this music industry that she she offered to me again with their generosity. No, I might be sharing a little bit.

They say the business is to be sold, not to be told. So maybe I have exploited. I have gone overboard with my.

My sharing, but nevertheless still yeah. We just wish each and everyone like love one light and more productivity. I would just hope the best for each person like.

Now I'm saying I have nobody.

You know, I'm saying we wish everybody the best. I want everybody fit. But yes, I'll just wrap it up there.

No, you know, you know, you know I love, I I sent everyone loving liking, you know, that's my philosophy, right? But at the same time, what I teach is very, very complex. And not too many folks even want to admit that they know the the the truth and that they know.

About the back end and that they recognize and acknowledge that metadata is the key to the money right. But then we get on these platforms and you got some folks who who who get it or pretend that they get it and then they and then they they flip it outside of of these faces. So I'm very cautious when I come on to these spaces, spaces and I'm asking that you know we we not try to teach something that we haven't officially capitalized off of or conquered.

Ourselves, King, you and I are working through your 15 portals at the same time you on spaces dropping folks, you know the little portals that you're learning without getting through your portals, right? So you have to get through your portals first, and then I can crown you and say, king, you you are on your own. You ready to go right now? You're still working with me directly.

And when you when we're working directly together and I'm doing that.

Free of charge. I don't feel comfortable coming on to to spaces, sharing the divulging the information. So to brand new folks when we haven't really gotten you through the the journey. So loving like Kabir, loving like kid, loving like madness. I am Harlem's first lady Juanita Purcell. I am on these spaces and places as a full stack developer.

Publishers radio personality curator activator, business owner, storefront owner, brick and Mortar I assist folks with their business credits with their Duns and Bradstreet.

Grants, loans, certified grant writer and tax preparer, life insurance agent and public notary. A lot of these things that I've that I've acquired in my life and through my journey has allowed me to really keep my eyes on the back end. Metadata and what I've learned in this music business that we've missed out the opportunity to secure 15 portals on a back end that can now simultaneously talk to one another on our behalf.

So that way we don't sign an agreement to a major label, which in fact they secure the 15 portals on their behalf and have you indicated as a performing artist. And then we'll be seeing their documentary 30 years down the line where they're where they're telling us the story that they got robbed. So I am a disrupter of.

The entertainment business where I am now.

I would say the Guardian, or they call me the Harriet Tubman of the entertainment business, where I'm showing, teaching, gifting, charging, whatever it takes for these independent publicists to realize that they're not just artists, that they're publicists and that they need to protect themselves on their back end by establishing their 15 portals. So that way everything connects for them on the back end.

And they can receive these residuals, royalties, mechanicals, all these. It's in bits and pieces of money that drops in.

They'll it'll be. It'll be sent their way.

And so as as we were talking about these digital identifiers, I recognized that in IRC code and isni an isbin, an issan AISN, all these digital identifiers are copyright registration code, an IP PIN number for publisher, publisher. These identifiers have a lot, a lot, a lot to do with the type of money that comes in.

For us based on the blue chip commercial ads and and sponsors that that are already connected on the business side, what am I saying? Well, I'm saying ads and commercials are the ones that are that are are.

Financially stabilizing these networks, financially stabilizing Twitter. So Twitter it their annual revenue is X amount because of the ads commercial ads that are embedded on the back end and what ads? No I don't get any ads. Queen yeah you, you you're the ad. Where the ad.

Because we're using the platform.

Where the at every time we send out a a link to our friends and family, go check out what I just posted. I just that you're advertising for Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and whatever other social media accounts we do have. And if you don't believe that, you have to reevaluate that and act yourself.

Did you just say?

And I've reset my, my plan. So I came in a little hot y'all, but blend is a client of mine. And I, I try to warn my clients, like, you know, don't get so excited with the information that you're learning and then regurgitate it out to the public and then like how to put the pieces together. Although he's a very intelligent man, he's still in the process of gaining he, he, he, he, he's not in the position to.

Put it back out yet? He needs to kind of protect it himself, Polish it himself, get it really, really refined. So that way when he's at the park.

Of like giving it out or teaching it out or or selling it out. He he's in the in his most prominent position in doing so.

No. Nice to meet you, Harlem. Uh, Kabir. I just popped in to say hi, but this little bit of time has been very absorbent, absorbent full. I just made-up a word of information and things to think about. I did send you some messages and that is a very.

Really thought provoking thoughts. I'm thinking about the HGAC. Usually things are compiled when uploading anyways in Spotify.

For including metadata based off of the platform, you know as Harlem was saying you know they by utilizing platforms they have their own metadata attached but try to make it unanimous from the actual file itself and work and implement. I'm going to have to look up different what's I codes to make sure that it is a standard and can work with all the languages. So thank you, take care.

Take care, kit. And Nice meeting you, Harlem. Nice, nice, nice knowing you. And a blend and no worries, we're whoa.

Ohboy.

Uh, I think that was a straw.

The troll found their way.

OK, so blame how? What else is going on? Are you, are you are you taking any time off for the Christmas?

Definitely will.

Really look at some lights late, turn on anything. And definitely not. Not not much planning in terms of too much work for the other day. But yeah, just rekindling.

Come on, you know, kind of.

I see.

Bringing in the new year that way.

Awesome. Hey man, let's see you not talking. So I think maybe you're busy.

Nice to see you here. Um, yeah, I think you know.

Are we are in holiday mode so I'm kind of slow?

Doing too much.

Pretty much a lot of people are in and out of office, so, you know, not everyone is working. Some people have their vacations, so.

They're all.

Moving at slower speed than expected, but that's actually expected. This. Uh.

It's the time for people to kind of hang out with their family.

Hello Madness brother. How are you?

Hey, Kabir. How's it going, man? I came in. What's up? Blim came in. Just say hi.

Hi, hi. Hi.

Yes, great thin skin.

Take a break and all that. I'm just tooling around the Internet.

Me too. I decided to park. Park and just, you know, see if I talked to some friends. That's about it. Yeah. It's nothing, you know, just just hanging out. Nothing special.

Hey man, what has happened to metalheads? Man? Uh.

Oh my God, yeah, I don't see him.

I haven't seen him in in months. I thought he was a buddy of yours.

Yeah, he had. I mean I I think he, uh kind of got burned out and then and then he has some physical issues that he was, I lost yesterday. I checked his profile and you know, he's uh he's writing something about maybe having a I think a surgery but he was having like you know some some sort of some sort of surgery like you know like on his he has an ankle issue or something or or or I I I think eyesight issues. So he was having.

Some issues, but yeah, no, he moved on to shave and all this kind of crypto stuff. So I think you know, like like a lot of people there, you know, NFTS not working for them and they may be looking at other things. So he's heavy, heavily posting on ship ship stuff.

That's what I see. But yeah, I don't see him on spaces and definitely, you know, definitely haven't seen him for weeks now.

So.

Yeah, I hope so. Alright.

Hmm.

Yeah, well, I'll look him up. We'll see if he's alright and all that. I'm glad to see you guys. I actually, myself, I you know, I don't. I didn't do NFT's or anything. I was learning all this metaverse crap. But yeah, now I I got my NFT is ready to go and drop, man. I think I'm just gonna drop it on open sea or something like that.

Awesome, awesome. What is it about? I mean, like, do you have a team for it or you know what's?

I see.

Ohh.

Yeah, it's a climate change brand type thing, man. We'll see how it goes. Let me, let me DM it to you. I don't. I haven't twittered it. So it's not on the feed, you know, I can't post it up top.

Hmm. OK.

What you say, but what it is, is I'm just gonna donate 20% of the proceeds to one of the climate change I was looking at. You know, Slava, beyond cute. They donate to a bunch of climate change projects, climate mitigation, stuff like that, you know?

OK.

Yeah, so let me, let me show you the it's an animation of video of of this check mark type of thing that you could put on your website or whatever. I don't even know what how you could use it. I'm still in there, but it's ready to go. You know, the background can be changed, but let me just show it to you. Hang on a SEC.

Sure.

Sublime you are you launching your music NFT yet or still researching?

Yeah. Well, I mean the process that I'm that I'm, I'm in that ohh, yeah, I'm in the process of completion.

These are the days no man. Like I I'm I'm almost done like high level. Who is saying I was pretty much getting some stuff.

Done on the back end like metadata that related. So it's kind of ironic with her webtree work still.

With.

Yeah, I'm almost ready.

I see.

Hey, got mad at um madness. Let me take a look.

There you go.

So on the on the DM, it's not animated right? It's just a screenshot or like a snapshot.

Hmm.

Yes, that's a screenshot. And I just put trees in the background. I think I'm actually just gonna model the trees and make them look nice and all that. But yeah, the whole thing is animated. The camera moves and all that. So you can take that and I guess put it on there on a website or what have you. I don't know how the smart contract, I want it. Simple, simple, simple. You come in, you just purchase it, you get the donation sent and all that stuff. And you know, I don't know should people be a

I see, I see. No, they'll fit. I mean, you just need to add the IP restriction that you want. Like you want to tell them that we can reuse it but not resell it.

So I think you can add.

See. Yeah. I want him to resell it, though. Yeah, I wanted. Yeah.

You want them? No, no, you want. Why would you want to them to? Oh, you mean resellers? No, no, no you don't want them. They can resell us in secondary market. They can sell it but not not sell it as they created it like, you know, like not. Yeah so.

Right, right. I got the distinction right.

OK.

Right, right. OK.

Yeah, I think there's a, there's a legal distinction then. I mean there are like already already licenses for NFT that you can look up and then attach one of them. And then basically you are saying look, you can put it on your website, you can make a mug, you can put it on your company T-shirts and that's all fine because that's promoting the, you know, the, the cause, but you can't call it yourself and sell it. You know, you can't sell the product itself, you know like you know the as your own.

So.

I think there there's some, there's some licensing just yeah.

Yeah, it's your stuff.

That that's good. Yeah. That's exactly the kind of thing I was thinking about. You know what I mean? I mean, it's my stuff, you know, that's my right. But if you put it on a coffee cup, but if you put it on a coffee cup and then go selling those coffee cups, then you see what I mean? That's that's where I kind of got stuck because, you know, I'm not into this.

Concern.

So I think madness, you want to allow us you know because the the normal, you know like the normal IP's that like let's say board apes for example, you know what they did, they gave all of the 100% of the IP. So that means people are actually, you know, putting it on their food truck and then promoting their food truck with it. Like, you know as a hey, I'm a board, a food truck, right. So you have to control that. You have to choose the right, right link light license just I think.

He researched like NFT licenses, you'll find them, find couple of them and then you just choose and then you metadata.

You put.

Yeah.

OK, and if the license is cool, I got you.

And just put metadata in in the open sea when you upload it I think you need to do that you know like for you know like why when you when you put that up you need to set it up with that that license agreement you know link or whatever the name of it so that people are aware of it and if they violate it then you know that's the difference depends on who violates like if it's a big you know if it's like you know somebody big then you have a case right. If somebody small you wouldn't even know that

Hmm.

Yeah.

Right. Right. Yeah. But I mean on my animations that I put up on Twitter I'm using, I'm I'm a heavy metal guy, right. So I'm using a heavy metal, you know, little clips and stuff like that as the soundtracks form. And man if I actually amusing these for advertisers I'm weighing violation of copyright laws you know. But at my level right now you know if one of these bands sent me a cease and desist then I just take that and make it an NFT, you know hey they sent you see this is this letter you kn

You're happy, you're happy to receive the season.

Yeah, they know madness. What's up, you know?

Yes, ohh you know what happened? Madness and and blam. I'll tell you I am exploring a new, not new. It's like a year old social network called deso the ESO. Have you guys heard of it? So.

What the reason I'm telling you is that I was exploring it just recently and then I I I I I synced all my like recent Twitter posts in there. And one of the posts was referring referencing a person who interviewed who interviewed Elon Musk recently. And you know I posted this on my Twitter account that hey this was a great Twitter Elon Musk space and here is a link to the transcript because I generated the transcript for it even though it has nothing to do with NFT now he didn't even notice it.

He didn't even notice the guy. His name is Mario or something. He didn't even notice it. And I I mean I didn't expect him to notice it because he's like you know big shot. But when I posted it in the other network, man, he he retweeted it in that network because that network doesn't have that many people. But he saw that and he actually retweeted it and liked it. And so the amazing thing is like you know, you never know where people are watching you. So I was, I was kind of interesting like like

If the people see you and we're we're excited that people saw us, that's fine. Cool. Well, I'm glad that you stopped by and I, you know, I'm just, I'm just hanging out. It's, you know, for a little bit and just, you know, nothing special. It's just, you know, so.

Roam around, you know. Enjoy your enjoy your Friday.

Ohh.

Yeah, that's what I've been doing. I actually, I'm gonna talk to Slava at three I'm I'm building, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to market and all that, my metaverse building stuff. So I'm actually using chat GPT to help me code because I can't find a freaking dev man. I have had two months of dealing with devs and trying to get these guys on board and whatever. So I'm using this chat GPT to help me walk through how to build the server and all that stuff. So.

Yeah, it's awesome.

Ohh really. Ohh that's interesting. I know that's very cool. Yeah. I use shade for other things like, you know, like kind of kind of generating content for like write ups and things that that what I I know it's going to do the right thing. But yeah it's it's useful. It's useful, useful thing. I've not used it for code generation, but I definitely use it for content. Yeah.

Hmm.

Not yet.

Hmm.

Ohh man the computer man we were talking about. You know, one of the fears was, you know, can it make 3D models and stuff? And no it can't right? But I got on there yesterday. I just got on there yesterday. This is how fast this AI is and how you can pick it up so it writes code, right? So I had it write the code for a cube, a sphere, a triangle and all that in Blender 3.5 and it gave me the Python code. I just copied the code and stuck it into the Python editor into blender.

Wow.

Boom. There's my models. I was blown away, brother.

Ohh, well, you know The thing is you still have to give it the, you know, the prom, the the the art direction, you know like kind of like tell it what to do and and you know that's why I mean.

Yep, Yep.

Hmm.

Hmm.

Yeah. Yeah. You have to tell her what to do. But this AI, Chad GPT, is a real AI, I think that's why it has those threads, you know? So what I'm doing now is I'm building the server. It has to be on a Linux server. You know, it's a 3D interactive website, right? We're doing the interactivity part in unreal. And then you just upload it into the space. You know, you can do it in spatial multiverse, you know, all that. They just don't do it yet, you know?

So yeah, so I have the instructions on how to do it and stuff and I'm using chat GPT and it's actually telling me how to giving me the instructions for the instructions you know and and and giving me the code that I need to piece this into the HTML page.

I see.

Hmm.

Umm.

Umm.

And now I of course have some basic HTML and CSS3. OK, you you remember how long ago that was with 2007? That kind of coding knowledge with HTML, but that's way back when, so I basically understand what it's doing. But dude, it's right in the code up to 2021. It has no information from 2022 yet that.

Right, they they, they disconnected it from the Internet.

Perhaps, yeah.

So they they don't. They yeah. And then and then it will most disconnected from Twitter.

So.

I see.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you know.

Well, they said they're coming out with GPT 4 chat GPT 4, which is, they say we're using the light version now as well. This is what I heard in the Twitter space from a dude that seems to know what he's talking about. OK, that's all. You know what I'm saying?

It, yeah. And then you know there are multiple different models that da Vinci model is the most smart one of the smartest one and that one, that one does the hard leaf heavy lifting. So I think there is a fast one and there is the da Vinci. Da Vinci is like more robust and you can choose them. So anyway.

Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. What are you doing? It's very cool.

Yeah man, this is, this is gonna help man, what I'm doing.

But Madness one thing before you go I really think you know that the the project that you mentioned that you know get training police with the virtual you know simulation thing and incident management or whatever that thing is your your that thing is a super niche because you are acts kind of force so they they will respect you and you would be able to get into many deals with that and that's cutting edge and they can, they don't have to you know.

You can do it remotely. They don't have to, you know, dedicate servers and stuff for them. So I think that's it.

Yeah.

I know man. That's what I saw and see. I luckily I'm intelligent man and so I pick up on these concepts. So.

You're funny and intelligent.

Hmm.

In the seven months that I've learned Metaverse is I went from OK we can make money by uploading shit into spaces right like Mona verse and all that and there's a thought I know I I can go online and bullshit with seven of them right now that I know that do it and dope Steelers room and all that and that's one that's one route to go and I was looking at well how are these things built because you know they're going to be if you it's a website and I learned you know and and.

Sorry, I lost my train of thought. I was watching my.

Ohh.

No, I think it's you know that that what you talked about the other day is very good.

The concepts, the concepts. So I realized right quickly that these are 3D interactive websites because, you know, I'm a damn fine researcher. My degree is military history, right? And then I was a cop, so I research everything, you know. So it's a 3D website. It's interactive. Where's the interactive part come from? So you go into space, all right? And you dance around. There is no interactivity. There's no buttons to push and all that work. How do you do that? You do that in the game engines. S

All the interactivity, like my monorail that runs around the the inside of the metaverse, right? You board the monorail in the metaverse and then you go up front and you push the button and the monorail runs. You see, that's the interactive part of it, the ecommerce portion and all that. So these concepts I caught on to and I figured out how to build it and put it together. And now I'm just using you know, the GPT to because I can't find a dev. Eventually I will find a dev and we'll bang this ou

Customizable websites. And then like, I'm already starting to pitch it to Oklahoma, DC Department of Corrections. I know some guys, you know.

Right, so.

Awesome. I mean having a real life you know connection network and then an offering them some cutting edge stuff. Those two are I think killer combination for your business model because you know if I were to make it, it would be difficult for me to get into that network then and the trust that you already can establish very quickly. So that's why I like, I like your idea that you should go for that. That's that's to me is a bigger.

Deal. You know I mean for you.

Hmm.

Uh.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think this is the way to go. To start. You know, I wanted to do also the standalone websites for the companies. This will take adoption, you know, and you have to have a clientele that wants to have fun in a metaverse. You know, you just can't walk down Main Street and go to the shoe store and say, hey, man, let me put your metaverse for $10,000, you know, no, no, no, you know, so, but you know, if we have the ecommerce package there where you can walk into the metaverse, then you can go

And do that, you know, that's another aspect of the business too that I'm working on.

Awesome, awesome. Well, you know, just keep on doing and don't disappear.

I'm.

Ohh no, I'm here man. I'm around. I love this.

So.

Yeah. I love, I love seeing people and I'm around and I'm around. I'm building stuff and you know I I I I'm not a short term guy. Never was. So I'm. I'm gonna be around looks like. So I love seeing people doing stuff and you know if uh yeah.

Hmm.

I wanted to ask you now you got, you're into the NFT spaces and all that stuff, that's where we met and all that and we saw everybody with you know their third grade drawings, you know that they randomized to make their right to give them some sort of utility.

So now what's coming up? Everybody's on the bear market, right? So build, build, build. So nobody's putting anything out. And this AI thing, these AI stable diffusion and stuff like that, very cool. But I'm afraid we're going to see when the the regulations come out and crypto starts to go back up naturally, as it will with the the banking getting into it and all that, when the regulations come, the NFT spaces are going to be flooded now with a bunch of crap tastic AI art.

That's unquotes, right? What do you think about that, man?

Well, that'll happen. I mean this is the thing, it's, you know, there is two ways of distribution. One is a walled garden. You, you have big corporations making stuff, very high quality, very, you know, Disney. And then you have bazaar where everybody, anybody and everybody is going to throw their, you know, whatever they find to sell. And this will have to, you know, there, there will be filters, there will be, you know, there will be curation, there will be like, you know, so you won't go to e

I see you was IHOP and see, I don't wanna go there. That's terrible. Everybody throws stuff there. You go to like, you know, you'll say, you know what I'm interested in, only, you know, even you know, whatever it is, it has to be curators. So I see the next generation of business is going to be taking all these different publishers like, you know, it's like this. Everybody wants to write a book. Everybody I know wants to write a book, right, about their life or about their work or about somethin

They're like, ohh, we're sorry, we, I know you have a great story but that's not gonna work. That's not gonna sell. So the publishers are the curators. They decide what is going to be on the bookshelf and so we don't have that. We don't have the public. We don't have these middle men's and there, there you know they are going to be like for example the VAC center. You know our our good friend mish, he's building 1 right. So people are going to start using his platform then he's going to have to

For applications. And then Judy, Judy is either she's, she's processing it and taking on. So they're already curating and if if they, if they were to let anybody and everything, then they would have a very boring show. So the curation is going to come and that's how we're going to have filters. It's just going to be filters created by regional filters, international filters. So we will have all this middle, middle, middle layer, you know, which people dislike because you know in music what I wou

Imagine Blam wants to go direct right to the to the audience which is exactly because the money is getting getting eaten up by the middleman. But the the the service that middleman does is allows us the Spotify allows me to only see what you know what they thought is safe for me to see safe as in taste wise or you know whatever. So Spotify is that publisher is is the middleman. They're just you know distributor so there is a need for distributor we cannot.

The rack market is like going to your flea market and and finding anything and everything. So you know.

Dude, dude, dude, I love it. I love it, man. You said the NFT bizarre. That's an excellent description, man. Yeah.

Yeah I I actually I actually been saying that like you know in software world we have this this concept it's called Cathedral and Bazaar and cathedrals is Microsoft right. They are they are guarded you know space Google doesn't tell you what they're building they build it test it and they said we got Gmail try it and yeah and Apple does exactly the same these are these are closed doors so that's their cathedral they the smoke comes out when the smoke they want smoke coming out but when you go to

Right, right.

A Grand Bazaar, bazaar in, in, in, in, in let's say Turkey, you see a million you know sellers sell trying to sell you anything and everything that they found on their way to the market. You know, they don't even know if this is going to sell, but they're going to wait it out and and that's what we are seeing in opposite right now we see anything and everybody with the like you said you know they're there their little digital you know pad or or iPad or iPhone or whatever, they're drawing somethi

And generating, you know the traits and they're saying hey, here is 1000 or 10,000 piece now by my thing, right?

Yeah.

So, so that's what, that's the phase, we're phase one which is the crazy phase and the phase two that you are worried about is going to also happen. People are going to use this and but at the same time madness. We got people like stream who is using stable diffusion. But guess what, he is taking pieces of stable division generated content and creating a scene and those scenes are beautiful. He shares, he shares that with me. I I see some of them in my DM and man the artwork.

Yeah.

Quality is so beyond, you know, because it's assembled art directed by stream. And like when you put something out, you are the art director, you are assembling it. You're not just taking some 3D piece. And you are right now what you showed me. You said Kabir, I'm going to change that tree background. I'm going to make it more interesting because you are the director of that, right. So you're not just taking and saying, all right, that's it. I can't do anything. Yeah. So I think that's going to

Will be curated and and and it's just going to be a distributed model that we see, not going to be just you know, we're right now interacting with the direct bazaar and that's why it's bizarre that the bazaar is so bizarre.

Yeah, I see what you're saying. That's cool. Well, I I was kind of combining two different thoughts with that. My, when I came into the NFT's, I was just gonna, it was in February. I was just a 3D guy. I just learned blender. And I was, you know, I was saying, OK, how can I make money with my new blender skills, you know, and and I got you know, I rolled on. But when I came in, it was just chaos, a lot of noise. I knew nothing. I did all my research, but I didn't know anything about NFTS.

And all that and going on and when you go to the real world trying to pitch something, I'm trying to pitch meta verses now, right? And I'm trying to pitch it to these people. And if you even speak NFT, they shut you down. And so when the AI art comes up, I'm afraid the NFT spaces are going to be again like that. And I don't want that associated with the metaverse, you know, when I'm trying to pitch it to, you know, Joe's bakery to get his metaphor set up or something, you know?

Yeah, I I've hired a lot of people and now you're not using the term NFT. They're using like digital assets, you know, other other terms and terminology to describe the same thing. But just because of the negativity, you know, around, you know, NFT because of the JPEG, you know basically as soon as you say NFT, people say ohh that's that, that's ape JPEG. That just worthless. You know they're just thinking. Yeah.

Tell that's all they know. Because that's all they hyped, you know?

And and that's all they see on Twitter. Like if you scroll through the NFD, you know, hashtags, you will see basically 525 different versions of the same thing, right? It's just.

Of the yeah, Yep, absolutely.

Yeah. So it's like what is this? This looks like noise and noise and not much of signal. So I agree you know this is going through, but you know, you know madness is best that it goes through in the in a bear cycle like you know in the next 12 months like if if the AI is, you know, art is going to come in, you know there's going to start sipping in right now. But I also think that when market is good, you're going to see influx of it. There's a lot more of it.

I I thought this bear market was just amazing. The timing and everything. You know, with the confluence of tech, crypto, the great reset, and the bear market, the opportunities now are confusing and the bear market for me allowed me to not get anxious and and rush into stuff. You know what I mean?

Yeah, no expectation management. So if you, if you do if you know that you know this is what what is possible right. If you know the market will not do what what most people wanting market do, then you're like I'm not going to expect that I'm expecting different results with same input is is dumb. So right now the inputs are our, our global market is down and until it gets better and then you know it, it's not in my reading it's not going to get better in the next 12 months and so.

Right.

Right.

I am not planning for uh, you know, wow, factor of success in the next 12 months. I'm planning for growth. I'm simply going to grow and justice, simply expand and look big. And then when the market comes back, I'm already big and fat. I'm just simply a spread everywhere because I I have. I've used this time to spread, not, not when I'm under fire, when when I am, you know. You know. Yeah.

OK.

Right now, when you're under fire, that is not the time to make the plan, man.

Exactly so test and try so you know I posted a lot 1 of if you just look at one of my last tweet I posted the list of domains that we have acquired just to build the you know the spread the NFT talk technology across all these other known and we have three you know conversations and I'm already sharing and I in my in my Twitter feed I'm already sharing that I'm already listening to the non where NFT spaces and like you know real estate spaces these are.

Huge. These are mega spaces that are happening so, so everybody's concerned about real estate. Look that 10,000 people show up in the real estate in the space and so I think the life you know is beyond we have three exist and therefore we should I'll be expanding their music and food and health and all these things. And so I'm just you know I'm just and then NFC talk is still going to be exactly the way it is. It's going to also move forward but but you know it's not going to be the one that.

You know that right now is going to drive anything. It's just going to be slow. I know that. So I'm, I'm OK with that.

Right on.

Awesome. Hey, it's 9:30. I was planning on closing the place about 9:40 Ish, so I thank you guys. Nice seeing you, brother buddies. And I'll run into you again, I'm sure in places. And have a good weekend if I don't see you, but blam, yeah.

Off.

They're not, yeah.

Come around the vets or something like that later on, man, Ohh, they're not on tonight. That's right. So yeah, we'll be around clueless.

Respect. Respect. All right then.

Awesome, brother. I'll blam. Nice talking to you again. Thank you for coming. Madness as usual. Have I know nice talking to you. OK. Bye bye.