Hey, Jen, how's it going?

Standing on a mic I'm driving, which is not not very safe right now because Michigan's getting its first, like all night winter storm.

I just tried sending out some DM's to everybody trying to run a little tailgate party.

Trying to see if anybody wants to pop on to the 9:30 Eastern Time YouTube Thursday, Thursday with crypto airborne.

Yeah, I think that's going to be good. I'm looking forward to attending that, watching that.

Yeah, usually it's just a bunch of us that randomly pop in and out and write in the chat and we just talk about nonsense.

Yeah, I was on one about I guess a month ago and it was really, it was pretty cool. So.

It's nice not to really kind of not have all the stress of everything that we're all going through.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, a lot of us within the heroes community has like branched out. We made good friends and we're we get to know each other not from just the Community bases, but as individuals. And we branched off into our own thing and now it's just, you know, we're helping each other.

I think that's great.

That's fantastic.

Have you been on the Thursday, Thursday or do you like to hide, you know, not be doxed or anything?

I have not been on it, I just view it.

Yeah.

Gotcha. Well, no peer pressure. What's you know, that's pretty much what I do. I actually just got out of work. So I'm not like in my complete, I'm like in between like OK, professional slash. I want to just troll so hard just to deescalate my day, but not until I'm finally out of the car.

Right.

Yeah, some.

It's been a long week.

Yeah, it's only Thursday. I luckily because I usually work on Saturdays and my Mondays are still part of my weekend, so I get Sunday Mondays off.

Ohh good.

But this weekend I Friday is I get a three day weekend just like everybody else. Well, just like everybody else I get normal weekend.

Right.

But yeah, there was a Neville, he was throwing up the issue about like previous news, but he couldn't really Gander where he's seen it or heard from. So like bad news about like Cross Tower. So I was trying to do some digging further about them and I couldn't find any particular item but the liquidity partners and whether they're investing or are being invested in by.

Hmm.

Some of them are sketchy I mean you you've seen on the news about Bitmex Hello Robert but bit Max is one of their mining companies it's about four years ago I had some bad news associated to them but you know the the issue is who has liquidity who does it and I I've said before that next not Bitmex sorry cross tower by itself is not a good suggestion but in the news today is like finances like.

Uh.

I know everyone's jumping on the Binance bag bandwagon and I I mean, at this point, I just. I just want the money and such. But.

I just don't know if finance is such a good idea either.

But I don't know that we've got a lot of choices.

Yeah. Well, I mean for the short term for having our funds released, I want.

Yes, I just want the funds released.

Uh-huh. But the the one thing though is like Binance isn't stupid, but it it's hard. It's hard because you know, the licensing for US base and then for us to be able to access it from Binance would still be a problem.

Well, I'm Binance is not registered in Texas, so I guess I would just get a cash out, which sucks.

Hmm. Well, I well.

At this point in time, yeah, I would like to cash out and after everything said and done like 3 or so years later, see if we get our funds back or not back. But you know a percentile of what our stock amount were for those of us that were creditors.

Yeah.

Well, hello Robert, how are you?

I am good. What are we talking about?

Um, just about anything and everything. This is just a regular friending space. I told you before about the previous community that were associated to we don't really have a community more so we pop in and out and just talk about what we're doing as individuals and you know keep it going. And I, we're trying to start up our thirsty Thursday YouTube channels on a weekly basis and I usually run a tailgate party beforehand where we just kind of.

Shoot ideas, get some friends in here, nothing in particular. And anyone that wants to jump on to the YouTube channel, whether they want to be a guest with a you know, docs or face because it's a live video and they can. I got a link for it using stream yard or people that just want to sit into the chat and just like type type back and forth just like Twitter, but it's all live.

That's pretty cool.

I'm still trying to figure out this this whole thing and if I really want to do a space, have a thing.

Because you and I talked a couple of times, you, you know, I'm retiring from my my workload job. It's it's time for you to move on. Then we'll be teaching university and do a couple like 3 projects.

But it it seems like people do want the technical knowledge I have in my head and it seems like it does have value and and.

You know like today and where we're talking and I appreciate you popping into our our initial that was our first initial out and and I do value your input. You saw my, my, my text back. That was the intention and it didn't come out the way the IT was intended. So any help you can throw my way that way, I appreciate it because I am not a marketing person.

I'm, I'm. I'm the guy that does.

The cyber, I'm the guy does the coding, I do that kind of stuff. But.

Yeah, well, I I I don't want to sound harsh. I'm I'm just trying to like.

Pull mice, yeah.

Sound harsh? I have to make this thing work because the idea behind it is pretty powerful and it could be used in. I think that the what was missing is that the smart contracts are designed to work anyway.

The the people who want to do it can use it.

You know, like sudberg down, they're actually going to use it. So Psychonauts, we're going to use it. So these are well established programs, but they're using it for what they needed to do this, the hellbenders dollars, just setting out to show how it could be used. And I think that's what got lost in the message because the message is very complex and just needs to be supplied. So be harsh.

Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, currently this is a thing like taking emotions out, because I know you're being biased is.

When I pop in and out of spaces, there are, you know, supposed chill spaces doesn't mean that yours is, but when I pop in, I'm trying to get as much information to.

Go.

Not trigger off my red flags in a short period of time and that will make it so I'll sit longer and right off the bat it if I didn't know you I would have just jumped out that you know my I sent you the message of why my why but you did so you know, compiling the marking. Like the PR, I hate using the word marking but the PR of the distribution of knowledge and intention is not structured properly.

For degens, you know, Twitter spaces, people, people are elitist in this space. So when they hear stuff, you know, they, they only have a minute moment of time to, you know, attention deficit.

Right. And and I noticed that everybody's too busy doing their own thing to actually look to see what other people are really doing. And it does. It takes time to to filter through. Like it took Me 2 weeks after finding out about the Bears to to go through and say OK what is this program about? And did the same thing with you know the board got 8 club when it first came out. I was like Nope. You know again financially it, it made sense if you got in early, but again it's just I didn't like.

A lot of what's being done that goes a I'm not a djin B.

I'm. I'm a boomer you know it's just these are not my people and I don't know how to talk to them and it's not that I I don't I'm think I'm I'm better or or more than them it's just we're we're a different breed and.

Yeah, yeah, I I get along more with, um, I'm in middle of the road. But there's still communication. Hey, Joey, there's still communication barriers where I'm just like have to take a moment to pause and, you know, have them shine some light of like what acronyms and stuff mean. And if they're gonna laugh me out of the space, it's like, OK, they're a bunch of 20 or so year olds. But if it's people that, you know, take the time, you know, they have respect for their elders still. They're they're

Right. Well, you know, I I Google that stuff a lot, but then when they actually find out who I really am, the room changes a bit.

But before is is like I don't know if you saw that post I I just gave a talk for in the federal states like you know for and and the big LinkedIn group of folks and I know you just started LinkedIn but you know I I've given you know talks on technology innovation and what the federal government's doing.

And and very large arenas like you know I was a keynote for of the the folks over the Pacific room earlier this year it's so when when I dropped into a space with all these kids I'm just like I I am so out of my depth.

You know, it is just like they say words. I, I'm, you know, here's the thing, in the military, when you're doing military intelligence, if you don't know what that is, we have a term. It's called Google that shit.

GTS and I'm constantly doing that in spaces I mean.

I feel. I don't know if would you say it was like a vampire out of time that's I think that's what we.

My, my, my terminology like the vampire. Uh, interview with the Vampire gets Lestat Lestat.

But yeah, yeah, that that's pretty much it. And Joey, thank you for coming in. You're Co hosting. I'm driving and it literally is a shit storm right now. And I'm driving 27 mph in a 55 to 65 mile per hour area and I'm probably going to hear in there leave my mic unmuted, but doesn't mean I'm going to be talking. I just.

Feel unsafe letting go of this during wheel.

Understood. I'm more than happy to drive as well and in slightly, drastically better conditions than you.

Well, my my drastic condition.

I'm.

Is.

I'm in my office doing nothing.

Well, stay inside, OK? It's much safer there. But you know, I'm damned if I turn down my windshield wipers at this time. I'm damned if I don't.

Ohh, you're such a shitty cold host you're dumb stepping.

I'm trying to get in good service. How I'm getting close. I'm close.

Ohh there you are. OK we got you. Alright, so one of the things I'm just recapping again is this is a this is for you Joey, is this is a tailgate party into our YouTube extravaganza Thursday Thursdays that will start at 9:30 Eastern Time. It's a live stream. People can participate via live chat or video and joy. Crypto also has made an endeavor from Ajax preparation.

Takes expert into Joey Crypto persona that he is trying to get enough engagement on.

Well, YouTube and for his profile, for people to know that he's a real person. Since he's no longer Ajax and he has a real photo of his face, people trust him less.

That's that seems to be exactly the case. I I used to have a a little bit more engagement with the some of my tweets I put out there but you know I think that was actually doing a little more of the bull market too now that other things have somewhat slowed down so to speak a little bit less engagement a few.

A few more inactive accounts out there I fear for the time being.

Ohh, look at that. We got low key and Duke is back. Duke alright?

Well thanks very much kid. I sure appreciate it. I'm I'm very excited to keep trying to write some terrible jokes and keep putting out content hopefully every week if I can and we'll see if I can get get to that point or not. We're planning on starting to do a little maybe writers meeting every other week and then on the off weeks do do a Joey crypto post. But it's it's it's a good work in progress so far it's gaining momentum at least within our own circle that's creating it and it's it's getti

Umm.

Thing and becoming more a part of our lives, at least personally for us, for me and three shots for me and three shots podcast. So it's it's very exciting. Thank you.

Yeah, the the it's about having consistency and I hope, I hope some little marketing.

Tidbits helped you out a little bit, and I did see that you made your own, uh, snippet that you're able to post, because that way people were able to get a preview without having to click on some random links just to hook them in, and hopefully that got some engagement.

Yes, that was wonderful advice kid. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. It was super simple thing to just.

Grab, grab a little screen recording, make a little snippets, and then throw it up. There it was. It makes makes it a lot more palatable for for someone who's just swiping by and doesn't want to be bothered to go and check out a link and look at an entire video. Give him, give him an appetizer. Give him a little sampler of of what what ludicrous potential my garbage content has.

I I love, I love that one clip. It's like literally 15 seconds. Alright, Sam Bakeman fried, how are you doing? Go fuck yourself.

Oh my God.

For the interview.

It was mostly scripted by myself, but then of course airing one of the three shots podcast hosts, he he threw a little bit of his own finesse in there here and there. So it was it was very, I think it turned out it was about as well as it could have hoped for.

I loved how the green screen didn't like catch and it was still green.

It was.

I.

Yeah couple couple of editing errors here and there, but our our editors getting getting a little bogged down with a bunch of new bunch of new content but it's coming along a little more volatile all the time.

I love the name and I love the fact, like during the screenplay, you guys, well, not you, but you can tell you guys are just having fun, impromptu, you're having some drinks and anything can happen.

And that's that's the key for it for us right now like I have. I have of course delusions of grandeur, but the the, my primary focus is getting to be creative. It's something I've wanted to do for a long time in some way shape or form. You know, I spent time in in high school on like the Improv team and spent a little time in drama after after school. Before I started college, I did a little community theater. So a little bit of that performance art has sort of been.

It's always been something that intrigued me and something I wanted to do more of, and I'm glad to finally have an excuse to do it. It's been a blast so far.

I appreciate it and I know that Floki is currently driving Duke. I don't know if it's because I have a recording on just so you know. Even if it's not recorded. I could always pull the audio, but this particular space is labeled Web 3 Starter Pack because I am going to turn it into a podcast. If anybody has any issues with it, please let me know and I can always edit you out, but in this case I.

They just left. Look at that. I just scared them off.

You're a grief.

Ohh gosh Dang it Charlie Brown.

Ah, but I I want to be able to get your name out there. Anybody else that wants some help with oh, they're back. Look at that. Just kidding. But I just want to be able to have.

My friends boost each other up and kind of bounce between each other. So whenever I do a podcast uplink, I also include your names. I don't do any timestamps, so people just have to listen through the whole thing. But they can click on the username, takes them to your Twitter page, and hopefully if they enjoy this listening in later on they will click and follow you and everybody else that's on the stage, which is Jen, Doctor Robert, or he just likes to be called Robert, Floki and Duke.

Down there, who AKA is Duke Kwan?

But.

Well, thanks so much. I really appreciate you hosting tonight and and hosting the space and having it for us.

Yeah, but you and Robert and Jewell generally gave me her answer with a laugh. But would you 2 like to jump on to the YouTube space or get a link to be a special guest?

Sure.

I'm, I'm. I'm down. Like I said, I'm just.

Try to catch up on some stuff I've missed today because I spent most of the day in spaces so.

When you do that and you don't work, you've got to make it up somehow, right?

Yeah, yeah, unfortunately I've been. I've finally fizzling off from my last week extravaganza of, you know, the the work hiccup.

It it's just never ending. So I'm looking forward to actually taking a Saturday off and.

Well, your, your, your thing that you had at work, I'm not going to see what it was, but if you want to hear about the thing that happened at OPM, which was one of the largest ones, I was the lead on that trying to clean it up. So.

That was an interesting, interesting few months.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll just, I'll just say there's a 4 digits of.

Employees records and you know, all that fun stuff that I have to scrub through still.

Butts.

No.

That that's no fun. I could tell you. That's no fun.

No, not at all. And then also maybe conspiracy theorist, because you know, when you're by yourself, like doing, doing.

Crap on a computer, your mind goes. You know your your.

You get tired and then you start going like hounding down a rabbit hole. Then it's like it might be dead, but then you come up with other conspiracy theories and and when, especially when it comes to like like entities and all this other fun stuff like ohh no they're they're out to get me.

It is dangerously easy to let your mind wander into situations like that, isn't it?

I know and that's that's when I get on Twitter space here and there just to be able to be like alright what did Elon tweet? Ohh look at that we got a Pornhub meme that he made on Sam Bakeman freed.

I wish, I wish so badly that I could take responsibility for that. I feel. I mean, I feel like it's been it's been done before me, of course, but.

I feel like I was. I was putting out some quality product with some of my Pornhub themes recently, and then just Elon Musk doesn't just hijacks the entirety of what I was trying to do anyways. It's fine, it's fine. It's no big deal.

And that bastard didn't even take the official Pornhub Twitter handle.

I.

Gasped. He did not. He shot shunned the creator. Good grief.

I know it's part of the Twitter, you know, user agreement when you end up using their platform, you know you give them the rights to be able to steal all of your.

Yep, just recreate your entity, right?

Exactly. All your products are belong to us.

Yeah, we're, we're micro content creators. But the problem is like we are utilizing private entity platforms to create our content and these affiliate programs are basically you know the algorithm for knowing when we are getting engagement for the affiliate programs using these platforms like who, who's making that judgment call for like you know, Miss missed calls, our PC's and you know the.

The UX off of it. And that's one of the things that Robert is trying to voice out with his affiliate programs with his project. But so far we've got a tune up on some of his.

PR.

Not a marketing person. I'm a cover, so you know it that it's it's ugly, but it works, right? So the idea behind it is, it's a Web 3 social media platform built from web three. So your content is your content. The code is all open sourced, it's in a repository. You want to stand up your own platform here, here's the stuff, go do it. But we've, you know, we got a couple of years ahead of you. So the platform is working. We've got some name brand.

Name brand projects that are on there and.

It it's your content you you control how much you set, how much you make, how much you pay your affiliates, how much you pay. You know how much you actually are going to charge for. Whatever. It's it's token gated. So you can do your your you got to have an NFT as a social your social token for someone to get into your project. And you can give those out, you can mint those out, you can sell those out. It's all up to you. It's just there's a lot more work that needs to be done and bring the comm

The the hardest part of of the the main platform the the, you know, getting everything through the Googles and the Apple and all that stuff that works done.

That work is done now we just got to make it sound better for PR.

Make the onboarding easier for for people who are not part of this web through community and to kind of change people's thoughts of what an NFT is because NFTS is what we've done is utility. Think of a an application that we put in Web 3 and that's on the smart contract. So we we figured out how to do some stuff that's kind of kind of neat.

Yeah. And any type of affiliate program is essentially a Ponzi scheme, which.

Matriculates to you know who's at the top, you know that's the definition from I forgot what's the actual first name is but Mr Ponzi but.

What's what's missing Kit is that it doesn't continue forever. It's it doesn't have like I'm on top and I stay on top. There's a limit to so I can bring somebody into as a scout who who goes out and scouts other projects. I can bring somebody in as a project.

But, you know, I they're they've themselves become their own entity. I, I don't. It doesn't go on forever, yeah.

Right I well I I was just making making it out though that like most affiliate programs because they are structures of Ponzi scheme and who's on top is the platform that is distributing it. But in your guys's case you're you're solving that problem into a doll which is amazing. So that right there should be one of the key points to point out from the get go just to take away that instant red flag.

Yeah.

Yeah.

MLM person because after you wrote that I went and looked at it and I was like, this is.

I guess I missed all that. You know, working for the federal government for 30 years, you kind of missed a lot of.

You were syops.

Yeah, stuff like that. So.

Yeah, it was something wrong.

It's it's a, it's a, it's the same thing. Psychological operations. You got, you gotta take it in with the you know your distribution your all that is through Twitter. What what are you marketing to you know the crowd but of course the the product itself, you're not trying to just mark it to degens. You're trying to market as a whole but just to get caught on because the more suggestions you have from people that are you know, fellow builders, would it be helpful?

Like I I like what you have and I know like what you've suggested and listening to the space of like a road map is almost like a a WordPress, you know, open source where people can create their own plugins, they utilize the source code and turn it into something for themselves, which through tokenizing and that's amazing but first.

First glance is just, uh, you know, my brain shuts off. I first five to 10 minutes, I'm just like, alright, move on.

Yeah, so I I. And This is why, you know.

I'm glad you were there and I would like to. I'm going to open it up to some other builders who have you know that that mentality because.

I want to start working on that sooner than later because we the spike and the number of downloads went nuts today.

Which which was made me happy, but then you know.

After you, you had that, you know, you send me that text. I was like, OK, let me look at, see what that is. And then I I got it right away what you were saying. So now I I've reached out to the CEO, who's the guy who doesn't work. And I was like dude. And so we're going to be having a meeting tomorrow to try to, you know.

Think about how to how to change that narrative because.

Again, it wasn't the intended narrative, but the people who are.

The metaphor framework is is set, which means their perception and bias is what they bring from the message.

And we need to undo some of that with some of the words.

Well, I mean good. Don't get me wrong. You know what you're what you're currently your verbage and stuff. It is still falling on ears that are catching it, obviously. But you want to also captivate people that are educated because those particular individuals, if something goes wrong, they're going to be the noisiest ones of the flock and people become sheep and they just throw coins at anything and everything so that that's all. I was just trying to find what.

You. You.

Who do you want?

Sorry, go ahead.

No. I was going to say no. You you absolutely your your input was extremely valuable and I wasn't even thinking about that. And and so that's the whole thing about this, right? That's why you built it. This thing called a community, which I had no idea what to do before because the only community I ever belonged to is down at Tampa, right. You know, so those are the people that I've I've had a community with my my entire life.

This is all new to me. So, you know, stepping into Web 3 as a as a project owner, that's kind of, kind of scary, but and also exciting all at the same time, right? So we're I'm, I'm learning. I have, I have other skills. This is not one of them.

Hopefully I'll pick it up.

I love how we all have different backgrounds or different forms of education experiences, but we're all learning.

And Jen?

I see that you came back. I'm trying to throw you a mic or if you're just listening, but I mean anytime if you're enjoying the conversation, but like just even if it's off the wall, I I've seen year round so many times and listen to you. I love it when you have questions and I want to be able to address them if you have any of that pop up.

But admittedly, for myself, I'm I'm always very out of my depth when talking about web three. I know like exactly nothing about it. And again, I'm understanding a little a little bit.

Of what you guys are talking about as far as ownership?

Being able to.

Spotify.

This code though, but yeah, web three is totally out of my wheelhouse. So I'm very curious to did you try to absorb a little more all the time and understand a little better?

Yeah, that that's the thing like um people, the one thing that people can associate to is money and like people that are tech heads don't care about the financials. But like the best way to associate to though like we all like Joey, you're you're starting to get into trying to monetize or you know turn yourself into a brand. And as I was saying before, we're micro publishers, you know, we're producing content, but is it for ourselves? No, we're we're creating it for someone else and if we want t

At that point in time and whether people are creating products and communities, it's that Ponzi scheme to where is it truly yours. And then the question with using blockchain technology is like is it truly decentralized or not? Because the the entry point that people utilize to create or gain you know, tokens or coins and move them around from wall to wall and it's it's, it's kind of the, it's the same.

Relationship. So there is always that the question of a problem that we're all trying to solve.

So what would it be a safe statement to make? The Web 3 is really about at its core, one of its tenants is is provable ownership or provable rights to your own products.

Exactly.

Ohh.

Self thought ship. It's it's self-serving ship, so you.

You know, as a content creator, you own the stuff you create. If you're a musician, you don't own it. It's the label that owns it. If you're an author, you don't own it. It's the.

Publisher.

You know the the publisher who owns it. Yeah. And so these things have have have you know eluded creators for years and the people who make the money and these are the the, you know the.

Film companies that produce, you know, all this stuff, right? So what this does, this creates an era of where you own your own data. So we can take this even further.

You know we take our money that we make by working our nine to five those of us well mines like 7 to.

But you know you take that that nine to five job and every two weeks you get a check put into your your bank which is centralized and in your, your, your, you know you're paying that mortgage which is centralized and you're paying this high percentage rate and money's been made off of your money while it's in the bank. And then you know like I I try to move like 20 K from my bank and I'm not going to say the name of the bank because I don't want them coming back and getting after me because this

Place. But it is one of the five biggest banks in the world. And they stopped it because they thought it was kind of, oh, this is kind of weird type of behavior. I was like, no, I do this every quarter, you know, I take money from my bank and move it into crypto and what I do is I drop it into the exchange.

My buddies move move my crypto into my Ledger which is my cold storage and I've been doing that for every quarter for the last.

Seven years.

Well, this is, this is, this is some suspicious behavior. So we had to stop it. It took two weeks to get my money unfrozen. It's my money. So, so Web 3 is not just about changing the narrative of ownership, it's changing the narrative of.

Of decentralization of products and services and the things that we as humans own and create and we want to purchase and we want to whatever. It's it's also part of being able to self govern ourselves. Because if we could use blockchain technologies to vote here in the US, none of the nonsense about election fraud would ever happen. Because it's on the chain. It is. It has that immutability that's transparent, has the frictionless and.

Costs what? That that means frictionless doesn't mean it's, you know, no friction at all, because everything has friction. So, for example, if I want to get a loan at the bank, which I recently did to buy my cabin in Colorado.

It it took more than 45 days to get drop all kinds of manual paperwork and sign all these forms, get it back. It went through multiple sections within the the the mortgage company going back and forth and 45 days later.

Thousands of dollars in fees.

100 hundred of something thousands of lifelong continues of of interest and it was not frictionless.

And it was not countless. It wasn't countless to me, and it wasn't countless to the people providing the loan.

But in blockchain technologies you can reduce that that cost because you don't have to have all these people take a package, look at it, check their box, hand it to somebody else, let them, you know, look at the back and shut their box so that that that reduces the friction, right, that the cost to deliver services. Well, if you reduce the friction and it's not touching 25 other people's desk, you've also reduced the cost of or producing that product or that service. So that's what this is more.

Well, it's not like, you know, it's not just content curation. It's actually a change of the narrative that humanity has.

Yeah, right now, right now, in the news assets and stuff and everything going through the sack, I'm talking about like CBDC's and everything with centralization. The review of it within the Fed is the idea. Like, there's not enough reports that have been created or even looked in to talk about, you know, decentralization defy space. And that is basically what all of this is about, why we're in blockchain in the first place.

Is taking out the middleman. Do we really need the?

The centralization that you know full circle is the self sovereignty.

I think we should. I shut down the conversation. People are leaving. My bad.

Uh, no, it's fine, Dan. Dan Rockwell, he's a cool guy.

Yeah, I know, dad.

Yeah, he, you know, he pops in and out and if he sometimes, if he's really feeling it with the voice synthesizers and and all that fun stuff, he'll come in and do his silly little intros. Joey. Sorry.

I don't know quite quite all right. I was just about to.

I was. I was just thinking, mulling it all over. I mean, there are a lot of things that crossed my mind.

Over the past couple of years being involved in the crypto space and.

And things like the home loan process, things like the ability to move whatever amount of money I want to from one bank to another.

At any time, because it doesn't long three, we've we've created so many of these.

I kind of compare it to the banality of evil sometimes.

Just these these microscopic changes.

That have happened over and over again over the past 100 years.

That have served you make what should be very basic transactions very basic.

Changes in our lives into these gigantic hurdles to get over.

That that ended up themselves are really just the flick of a couple switches.

And we've created these gigantic sort of evil machines. Not evil by the people that have created them, but evil in their nature, because it's just one bad idea pile on top of another.

Whether it's for security sake, or for the ability to cover your ass, or cover the ass of other people involved in the process.

And it's it's bogged down the ability to.

Do what should be really simple tasks.

What's that old school saying like with all good intentions? And what's the other half?

The road to hell being paved with good intentions.

OK, yeah, the road. There's another saying, but that one suits.

Yeah, the other one escapes me right now. I'm not sure what that one other one is.

But it is.

I made it to my destination and I I gosh.

I'm almost at destination time myself right now. I've I've got some other obligations about here about 5.

Ohh yeah I I got stuck um trying to take my seat belt off with my headset and it's wired so I'm gonna have to unplug my ear set real quick.

I know what you're talking about though, Robert. It's it isn't even even something like.

A home loan, mortgage. He even say we you have a cash buyer and.

The the quickest you can close the deal to buy a house.

Cash buyer, I mean, we're still talking weeks of a process.

Something that should be pretty pretty easy to wrap up and hurry.

Yeah, but here's the thing. So I actually bought property and in Hawaii, Cash deal.

Back when Crypto was going, Bitcoin was at like 60 K at coin. And I had got in crypto a lot earlier and I had just extra, you know, bitcoins just.

Laying around in my wallet, sold a few paid paid, paid cash for these two lots in Hawaii.

Still took more than 30 days to actually close on it when I dropped cash.

Yeah, for a transaction that should be here. I have the money. You have the thing I want. Give me the thing I want. Let's let's sign the paper. Come on.

Back.

Yeah, I even offered to transfer uh, you know, Bitcoin into their wallet that they would use a third party to transfer the the title into my name. They're like, what's what's Bitcoin?

Oh, good Lord, yeah. How much? How much bloody money does the American home buyer every single day spend on insurance just to make sure the money changes hands properly?

That that would reduce some cost, that would reduce some friction and that's the what I was, you know, the power of of blockchain technologies.

It is too bad that everything is getting so the the sentiment sad right now. I mean the future is still bright obviously for people that you know, pardon the cliche, but if you know, you know.

It's it's too bad that it's the the sentiment is so sad right now. But yeah this these are the these these are real. I mean yeah make making money is great.

Making a bunch of money on a on a nothing coin that goes 1000 X the grades, that would be wonderful. I'd love to have that happen. But the industry disrupting technology, that's that's the stuff that I'll be really excited to see happen to to everybody that the people that aren't crypto investors see see blockchain technology start happening to everyone.

Well, see that's, that's, that's that's something that that's going to have to come.

Once there's more adoption right now we're we're still you know buying the coins and hoping they're going to go up. So it's kind of a gamble. We're still, I'm saying we as rural, the WYAL we were royal, can't say that one.

Because I I don't. I don't do that. And oh, by the way, anything I say has nothing to do with financial advice, because I'm a computer scientist and if you're listening to me for financial advice, you're fucked.

Um, but I I don't participate in any of those.

I just stayed to the main Bitcoin with dollar cost averaging and I do it regularly.

And and I've done it for a number of years and and there's even though we're down, I'm still up.

And then when I invested what, three projects, I don't invest, I I look for something that's going to be sustainable.

Something that has a product or service around, that's something that we're going to go to the moon or we're going to build. You got to have a little bit more than that. So I look at the same way you would not invest into any brick and mortar stock.

With a a business plan that says we got some cool tech, we're degens and we're going to the moon. Now buy my shit coin.

So I just, you just apply the same common sense in the same sense because it was common ever it would be everywhere. But you use the same sense that you would do when you would, you know, spend your money and buy stocks. You, you, you look at the company, who's in the company, who's, who's managing the company? Do they have business acumen, do they actually have a product or they're just we have a white paper and it's 3 pages long and we're going to the moon. I have literally somebody wanted me

By all these coins, but as a as an investor, because I do, I do invest in projects.

And and their business plan was three pages long and and it was very awesome they put together. It was like a publisher or.

Yeah, I guess when the Adobe, Adobe look at all, you know all futuristic and and as the kids say dope. But the message was we have an idea, we're building and we're going to the moon.

And now give us $25,000 more or less. Had a few other things in there. I was like who's on the team? They had the PFP that the people on the team without who the PP's are.

So again, that's just part of the equation. If you're gonna invest, if you're gonna if again, you may look at A1 on one artist and say I like that artwork, right.

Then that's OK, that's that's something different. But if you're doing it to him fast, if you're doing it to do.

Uh, you know, trying to build a future for yourself and your family and get to be a little bit more circumspect.

It is strange that at times we uh, by the way, welcome, Wonder Woman. How you doing, Diana?

I'm just great. Ajax. So nice to see you all. Um, yeah. Can continue. Continue. I don't mean to interrupt.

Quite all right. Just wanted to wish you a warm welcome real fast. Umm, it it is strange, Robert, that in the that in the space in general, there's a space that touts transparency so much that is able to.

Really it.

For for the diehards exemplify.

Transparency in.

What we're trying to do in transparency of transactions, provability of transactions on the blockchain.

But there's all too often there's not enough transparency with lot of these brand new projects.

Yeah, and that's, that's the thing if I can't get transparency.

Yeah, I actually asked the project. Let me sit in your scrum. I wanna I want to hear how you and your developer team are are you know, building this.

You're like, well, that's that's privileged information. I was like, well, you want my money, this is, this is some of what you have to disclose.

You know, I I invested in this other company which is not a way through company and in the process of doing so again these are Angel investments. These are not like buying stocks. Stocks are already been vetted. They have already applied for the IPO. They've already met these different regulations and and understandings and requirements that they have to follow under government to the clients. And those are much more safe because they're not as risky. Doesn't mean you can't lose with it, but you

But in these projects you know a lot of the leg work has to be done by you and and doing that you have to be smart about it. And when I asked them to set in and your scrum. I want to see you know your process and how you're developing and and let me you know what we showed you the road map. Yeah. But the road map doesn't tell me anything. It doesn't tell me how you do product ownership. It doesn't tell me anything about how you as a team work.

When when I got into Scobee, I I told David I want to see the financials, I want to see the the the PNL, I want to see how much money that has been raised thus far, how much has been spent, what your burn rate.

What's your, what's your velocity? What's you know? So after a while and again, I've known the folks over Scovie since 2016 and we worked on another project together that I invested in this one.

You know, to be able to to to do stuff like that even.

Buying a NT that's going to get you to the moon and that's again it's OK if it's JPEG to art and like it's kind of cool kind of like the community you can chill vibe you know it's new it's your new tribe right. So it's kind of, that's OK but if you're if you're going out and just ate and into everything you can ape into thinking that you're going to be.

You know, building that future, you know, that is extremely risky for me and maybe because I'm, I'm older and I'm more conservative.

With my money when I invested and so, you know, transparency is absolutely missing in this and the other parts of this thing is business acumen on the projects behalf.

Is what are you building? Ohh, we're building to the moon. No, no, with the product or service you can offer. Oh, we're going to have some merch and we're going to it's like OK, hold on.

What? What's?

I love those stupid responses.

I I just yeah I know. It's just like it's it's the same thing over and over so instead of having a monkey on the on the on the thing I got a ping one or you know like battle buddies battle buddies going to be cool because you know fight your bunnies. I'm down with some battle bunnies because I can fight you know that's a game and and I took the test and I'm a Viking I'm a which is pretty much funny because I MyHeritage is Viking.

So so again it's you have these these different projects but the business acumen is missing. Sorry, that's my government computer telling me I forgot to log off. So the business acumen is missing.

And what do I mean by that?

Alright, what is your product? What are you, what are you trying to come up with? What is your service? What are you going to do?

And the first thing I ask is, is it real? Can you win? Is it worth it? Those three questions, is it real? Can the technology do this?

Um.

So that's why I need to see that just wrote me. Let me take a look at your you know, your backlog. Let me take a look at your, your, your architectural designs. Let me look at your, your, your tech stack. Let me so I know it's real.

It it.

Yeah, most companies or people don't want to do that. And then like, do you actually just disregard it or do you actually dive deeper and try to like review it on the back end?

I don't bother because that tells me that they they're they're not transparent enough for me to put my money in. I may buy a a JPEG depending on, you know what what it is.

But here's here's here's the kicker if I can't get those three questions answered.

I don't bother to me and I couldn't get the the answers from younger labs at all so I didn't bother. Now granted they they did go to the moon you know people made money off of the the apes but the sustainability is not there and being a government employee with what's about to come down, not so sure. I made a bad decision for my long long term career. So I'm looking at for the long run at the immediate win.

So, you know, again, if you're in it for immediate when, maybe that fits you, maybe that's your, you know, your, your, your modus operandi, and that's OK. But you have to have your strategy, your game plan, and stick to it. I have my strategy, my game plan. That doesn't mean all pivot. So is it real? Does the technology do what they say it can do? That's one.

Can you win?

And what I mean by that is, is there a market for it if you're building a will and there's 10 gazillion wheels out there?

You know that markets can be hard to get into. So if there's a product and service have a market, is it solving a real problem?

OK. And then can you win? Yeah, I can build this wheel, but it cost me $5000 to build the wheel and I price point to some. It's $60.00. So if you can't, you know, is it real? Can you win? Is it worth it? If you can't answer those three questions, I don't bother with the project.

I love it because we usually have these spaces with Obi Wan which is uh, Ryan is great great spelled with an 8, the numeric numerical. But we talked about like tokenomics and you know the 3T's and you know team technology tokenomics and like how to search for red flags and you know when we do our questioning for people that want to shill projects but never in that type of detail.

So I appreciate that. I wanna give Doctor Kerry a shout out. Look at that. We got two people in here with Doctor.

Hi, doctor Gary.

Hi everyone. How are you?

Doctor Kerry.

I have a soundboard but I don't know what button does that.

You know the one I'm going for?

Ohh.

My.

OK let me try it one more time. I accidentally in a night space I screamed like hit the screen button and I was like ohh no. Alright let's see what would look like it. There's a cock, there's a there's a clown face. Ohh let's see. Yay, I got it. Wait no that's not it. That's not the right one.

It's like a hockey one.

It's a hockey one.

It's so close though. Press it twice quickly and then once a long time.

I'm very sorry guys. I have other obligations.

Ohh no.

I've got a I've got a jets. Thanks for letting me play co-host for a bit there.

I.

Yeah, I'm afraid it's time. I have kids have joined me and they haven't seen me all day. They're they're already mad at me. I can tell just, but just by looking at them.

I haven't seen you all day either, but whatever.

At.

I know I.

I appreciate you coming in, Joey. Joey Crypto, the new face of Ajax preparation egg spokesman.

Still Ajax at heart. Still Ajax at heart will always, always promote being a hero. Art, thanks so much for letting me jump on.

Before you go.

Before you go, I just watched your recent Joey Krypto episode and by far the best part is your own monologue. You just you keep doing what you do.

Thank you so much, Diane. I appreciate it. You'll, you'll have to let me know if you have any, any quotes that stuck out in your mind.

I'll have to rewatch. There they were, just like it was hit after hit, it was. There was a few. I really giggle that. I'll get back to you on that.

Wonderful. Robert, thanks so much for answering my questions. It was a pleasure talking to you tonight. I hope you guys have a wonderful evening.

Oh Joey, also, we're going to talk later about creating an SRT file to put captions on to your video so that way people get an actual read along monologue.

Very cool. OK, yeah, I love it.

I need a WTF button because I I had no idea what.

In our SRT file.

Yeah, I understand that. But then it's gonna.

It just first captions.

I don't know you.

Yeah, I didn't know you can do that on Twitter.

Uh.

Um, you, well, I his videos that he uploads and then you can upload the video onto Twitter.

I'm still my 8 bit world.

It's OK. I I.

What the fuck?

Bye, jax. See you next time.

Doodles.

Ohh no I have no host. Ohh no. What shall I do? Don't everybody jump up with their hands raised for a new co-host?

I'll be.

I'm gonna have to bail here. I'm just letting you know I gotta bail in a little while, so.

OK. Well, that that's fine, Wonder Woman. Thank you. You're it. Doctor Robert, I appreciate you coming in. And I'm gonna if you're available at 9:30 PM in 30 more minutes for a little bit later. Just any time to pop on in to figure out stream yard. It's a stream yard link that connects to a live video feed for YouTube.

If you're up for it, you could always pop in. If not, I understand.

Diana.

I'll, I'll. I'll try it. I just, I've been procrastinating for work today like nobody's business. I don't know why I don't feel like working.

It's the weather, I get it. I don't feel like working either.

But Diana, you have been a wandering woman, wandering nomad, and I see that you're also starting up your new endeavors. I I'm not gonna dox your other account, which is just real world, Diana. And so you're also sending out like into the ether, ether, you know, positive vibes, what you're working on and starting a well-being your own brand. And that's basically what we've been talking about.

The space earlier, did you want to talk about it?

Yeah, I'd love to, because actually this Sunday I'm starting up finally after like six months, gonna do zoom yoga classes every Sunday as kind of like my most public, easily, easily accessible offering.

But yeah, it's so funny that you like follow that account because like I think like you and airborne follow it and it's just like it trips me out. Like it's so funny the mixing of worlds. And thank you so much for taking the survey also I really appreciate it. And yeah, I'm starting up my own business focused on support, help, mentorship for other body workers. But also like I've the course I'm writing right now. I think it's also extremely applicable for.

Any kind of care provider. So I'm still formulating my thoughts around all that.

And yeah, I'm right now creating programming, creating a like structured massage therapist program to help them be like really great therapists and much more integrated with like East and West Knowledge. And also to just like make it much more well known how insanely helpful and life changing good massage can be and craniosacral.

So yeah, that's what I'm up to.

And thanks for talking about the good vibe, Sharon. I appreciate it. It's like a little nerve wracking to start that page back up.

Well, I I love seeing people smile. I love seeing people like being real humans and being productive. You know, a lot of people are always on Twitter and they're always tweeting memes and it's like they have no life in words of dupe down there. They got no life.

Yeah, it is cool seeing people like going for it and creating things. And I have a few friends going through parallel experiences like that right now. And it's just it's just so cool to watch and then also realize, like, oh, I'm that person for other people too. Like it matters what I do.

Exactly. And like Doctor Carey over there, like her just being herself and, you know, flipping both worlds together, she doesn't have like a special hero that she's trying to hide behind and make a PFP and be inconspicuous. She is what she is.

I wish I could get into my freaking hero accounts and I would hide behind my freaking hero, but I still can't. I'm hoping.

Wait, you can't get into your account?

Oh like I haven't been able to do this this whole time. I'm like ohh yeah like I I have in a woman and I can't get in and it's just been this like long thing and hold on. Ohh my daughter's holding the door. Oh my God.

Just you can't get in out to it.

I can't get into it. Anyway, that's funny, I'm so mad.

I think of.

I didn't realize that cause around here you're just Doctor Carey.

It's just so funny. It's so frustrating.

OK.

Yeah. Can you, when I think of a tax service like you're into it like Intuit tax services and I'm like, OK, is it like association or so I like, I like just you just that blonde smiley.

Perfect little smile right there. Super adorable, just staring and judging me.

Yeah, I like can't find another picture that even looks like that. So I'm like, shit, I'm gonna go with that for a while.

But yeah, I know that sounds awesome, Wonder Woman, I'm so excited for you.

That's so cool. I don't know your other account, but I cannot. I will follow if you want me to. If you want me to mix world.

Umm.

Yeah, I have like.

A Twitter a separate Twitter account that I just don't know how many like different kind of platforms I want to be like.

Consistently posting on but anyway my.

My Instagram account is third spaces, third dot spaces, um, which I'm happy for you all to know about. I'm like not gonna be actively posting that kind of stuff on my Wonder Woman wall or anything, but you're more than welcome to follow over in that that world of things as well.

Because it like.

THIRD.

Yeah, third. Like coming in 3rd place.

OK.

But it's it's called that because it's more like a sociology term. It's like the concept is third spaces in society, which like home is 1 space, work is second space.

3rd space are those meeting points where it's like you're out in the world and it's like incidental meeting and it's.

Like space for community and ideas and for like other things that are not work at home. And that's part of my philosophy of what I'm doing with myself, that like I'm really into what like third spaces are to people and I'm fostering my own third space with my like.

Community of people and like program that I'm starting and I relate it to body work. Like I relate it to Fasha, AKA connective tissue, but that's a whole nother. Yeah, Baroness, you're laughing because you maybe can kind of understand, but that's a whole nother ball of wax.

I like that.

Yeah.

But I just, so you know, it is recorded. And I do plan on making this into a podcast just because I want all of my friends from our previous community. That's like branching off to do things for themselves. I want to put your guys's life skills out there and hopefully get you more engagement. And whatever you do with that, you know, try to improve other people's outlook on, you know, Web 3 development. And you know, it's.

Utilities along with them, you know, being a productive individual. So doctor care, if you wanted to share more about yourself too, please do.

OK, well I was just trying to get a job shilling Luna for lunch down, but apparently because I was washing my daughter's clothes so she could fly out tomorrow, I missed the interview, so I'm getting in trouble.

Well, it's only only interns allowed if you have 10,000 or more followers. So unfortunately we have to just kind of be bottom feeders in here and LARP our hearts out.

Whatever, I do more work for that guy for free. I hope he hears this right now too.

Wait, what guy? Who are you talking about?

Always pumping him up.

Plunk down.

Whoever you are.

Asparagus void or seffy, anybody?

You know who you're talking about.

I don't know. You should come in sometime. I don't know. This is so funny.

I don't know, I'm.

I'm intimidated by these web three spaces.

It.

Well, everyone's kind of intimidated by that one. It's kind of funny, but then once you go, it's all good. It's just. But at first it's like, what is happening right now? It's like sepies, new spaces, Wonder Woman.

It's it's a shit. It's a shit post space. Like basically, you know, we have highly intellectual individuals, but they're just like, you know, our community and stuff, which I was. MD5 was wrecked as well. And we're all like so sad that we turned into humor and we make fun of everything.

Oh, nice. OK, that's not that bad.

Like.

And I mean, in fact that's very different from what I was thinking.

Well, we had OK, so, so you know, the whole thing with like the fall of Alameda FTX finally admitting to not admitting but going into Chapter 11 and international US, etcetera like Twitter spaces went crazy nonstop and there is a a 72 hour space like an emergency breaking news and like I'm not going to name the person, but they constantly they didn't sleep.

For three straight days, just shilling. Not shilling, but like oh oh next person pops up. I got breaking news this blah blah blah I'm live from blah blah blah. So Saffie opened up a space.

Larping and I'm like get thrown a mic and you just like. So Kit, I hear you're alive and Dubai and you have some breaking news for us.

Like setting up the stage for me to light up. I'm like, Oh dear Lord.

Yeah, they're like Wonder Woman, I think Seppi, they're like zeppe's spaces. So you would you would feel comfortable, probably.

You know, yes, except, um, there are certain people where.

Like certain people, when they dominate the conversation, it gets me a little anxious because I feel like I can't get a word in.

So I'll pop it up.

I told him about his mansplaining. He's like, what are you talking about?

It's like, you know, the thing about women's rights is this and he'll go on for like an hour. And I'm like, what are you talking about?

Yeah. So that kind of thing.

I mean, I'll try it out. I'll, I'll, I'll pop in if one of you guys are there.

It might be good as your other account. It gets some followers or something you know. I don't know how you are doing on that other account.

Her students follow her other account. I would not.

Oh yeah, probably not good, but but I'm. I'm a state employee who probably follows.

Totally fine.

Yeah, that's a whole other.

Yeah, it's so funny trying to figure out like what makes sense as far as like this is a whole separate world in my life versus like other parts of my life. But it's like I haven't been as active here and it's feels more appropriate for there to be somewhat of an integration, like a little bit of an integration at this point.

You know.

Yeah, it's tough. I mean, I don't know. I had this.

It it's just it was hard for me because I hadn't done the inner woman thing for like VGX. So it was so hard when I I have this other account and I tried to go as her but it was so weird. I just felt funny. So I just like fine, I'll just go and Archer carry because it just didn't seem right. I couldn't. I don't know.

I don't know, it just felt funny cause everyone knew it was my voice, you know?

I guess it's fine.

You know, that's a good point. It's like people already knew you as Doctor Carey and they know your voice.

Yeah, that's true. Um, you know, I've been so tempted to contact like a few different podcasts who focus on.

Internet based things and like. Pitch them a podcast episode idea of talking about like.

The ohh God, this is recorded OK, whatever. Um of talking about the community, about the heroes and like the rise and fall of Fiji X and just all of the craziness that went into it. But then I think about if I am to share stories on a podcast, my voice will be very recognizable and I just don't think I want to do that.

And what do we have a lot of our old stuff recorded? Like, I mean, think about all those hours of talking about Voyager that we have. Are they? We're safe spaces. I guess terror spaces must have a lot of stuff that references Voyager, but Umm.

Yes, yes, you can catch Terrace spaces archive on Apple Music and on Spotify anytime. You can just do a search for your handles because they also include your Twitter profile URL.

That guy does the Lord's work.

Every.

Right.

Well also ohh Duke. Hi, I was just going to ask how kit, how Baroness, how you've been, but both you and Duke.

Duke I.

Give me an update. Y'all.

I'm more interested in Duke. How was Duke doing?

Wow.

You would just shove Wonder Woman to the side like that. I feel honored.

What? What?

I don't feel shoved.

I wanna know too, Duke. Don't deflect.

There's there's like there's nothing special going on.

Sitting here watching the Bruins game.

Relaxing by the fire.

That's about it. Nothing.

Exciting.

Well, that sounds nice.

You're a fireplace.

A wood stove? Yeah, this is my.

Heat source in the winter.

Ohh, very nice. It's very cozy.

It's very, it's very hypnotic. I can just imagine like he when he sits in these spaces.

He is like getting hypnotized, watching the flames while he smokes a bowl.

Yeah, pretty close.

Do.

And then like slowly dozing off to the sound of spaces with like the the embers of the fire slowly going out.

Well, that is, yeah. The the only light that I I have at that time is is, yeah, it's the fire going.

It's, uh, one of the ones with the.

Glass window. I think that's, you know what, I think that's the way they all are now. When I first moved in here, it was like an antique.

It was this big.

Cast iron looking.

Stop with like all these decorations and and shit on it.

And they couple years ago the landlord had set me up with a brand new one.

Pretty nice.

I imagine you live in rustic in the upper Canadian mountains of like British Columbia, Vancouver area, fighting bears and shit and chopping firewood just to survive with that narrative.

And it is about.

545 hours meeting.

Well, that's that's.

Well, from where you are to get to British Columbia, which is the western coast right above actual rainforest.

That's pretty far.

Yeah, that. That's uh like a 36 hour drive.

Wow.

Yeah, I am.

I had to go to.

Toronto for work fairly often in my last job.

But I've never been out.

Out that way.

Alright, I'm trying to find the link right now. Crypto airborne sent it to me earlier, but.

Do did you wanna pop on and do your usual like hide and behind the screen and just once in a while make noises to know that you're alive?

Would.

The because this is my tailgate space, uh, at 9:30 Eastern Time. So we got about 12 minutes until the YouTube channel pops up and I'm just checking to see if anybody would like to pop on. We got Vanessa Harris, which is technology pull up, popping on and talking about.

The lock Max Token 2.0 coming out on uh L Ron that that actually rebranded to Multiverse X we have possibly OB. Ryan is great coming on just as usual. Of course myself and crypto airborne and I got a Robert Wetzel who was in here earlier that's going to try popping on, but he basically has been putting off his government work for a while. But I figured how.

Ohh Cryptal airborne is. I'm just curious how they would get along. So this is more of like a I wanna put two people together and see how they fight.

Nice.

Umm.

I'll definitely TuneIn, I mean.

I don't know if I can participate.

It's getting it's gonna be getting late.

I've been having a.

Pretty rough.

Rough few weeks at work trying to get shit done.

That sounds sad. Somebody, somebody make make the room happy again.

I'm trying to get OK.

Yes, you.

Is that my job? I'm the Co host. I really should be your wingwoman right now. I don't know what to do, except I'm eating leftover fajitas and I'm happy.

You got, you got your wings. You're like your PFP is a beautiful butterfly with your wings out and you're representing Hispanics in your PFP and you're eating fajitas. That is beautiful.

You know, Feliz navidad it is. It's really on theme. And I'm here with also a miniature Aussie because I'm dog sitting and she's kind of a nervous wreck. But she's like a territorial nervous wreck when her owners are around. But when her owner's not around, she's like a different dog. She's like chilling, anxious now.

And she'll actually be my friend and it's just dog behavior, just wild to me.

Are you wanna animal person?

You know, I am, but I'm realizing that I'm that comes with boundaries as far as, like, animals being in my living quarters.

Yeah.

Ah.

My.

How about you do? How do you feel about that?

I was trying to be nice. Nice to dog. I like, you know, I like my friend's dogs.

And.

I I like them because I can leave when, you know, you gotta be responsible and stuff. Kind of like kids, I think. Like like a dog to me is like a toddler that never grows up.

Uh.

Which is why I have a cat and I know she takes care of herself. She does her own thing.

But uh.

Yeah, I think. I don't know what the point was actually.

It's OK. That was the point.

I appreciate that and I appreciate cats I do like.

That they know how to take care of themselves.

They're not sucking up to anyone.

They're just existing.

But I like.

You know, like like.

I love dogs, you know, playing with them and and and you know, I I take my landlord's dogs for a walk every hour.

Having to care for it is.

Like where I draw the line.

I'm trying to set up this background drop on stream yard and I can't figure out how to turn my camera on because I had to data dump my computer and start fresh and I don't think I set my camera up.

Well, I'm excited that you're going to be on the live stream.

I think I'm gonna set it out, but um cause I am.

Married to creating these courses now, but I am going to pop in and say hi.

Awesome. Actually, I think I'm going to go ahead and probably just end this and send out a tweet, invites, and also try to figure out what's going on with my computer and before the stream actually starts, which is less than 10 minutes, OK?

Sounds good.

Bye, bye.

Sounds good. Also, I never said hi to Kronos. Welcome, Kronos and hi Jen. I don't know you, but hello and.

We all again.

Do I know Jen?

Yeah, you do know Jen once in a blue moon, but uh yeah, she she chose to be a lurker down there in the pits. Ohh. And then she chose to leave.

Ohh but.

Ohh.

The kernel is thank you for popping in Wonder Woman. Thank you for stepping up and being co-host Duke. I appreciate you and John Wick over there with Caroline, creepy face.

Alright, see you guys later. Bye.

Bye, bye. See you soon. Bye.

Bye.