Important Topics #Web3 future of #NFTs #share views thoughts
November 16th, 2022

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  • thevecentre02:08:49 PM

    Hey, elka.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:08:52 PM

    Come and speak.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:15:44 PM

    Hello Lionheart, how are you?

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:15:46 PM

    Come up and speak, man.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:18:09 PM

    Daniel.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:18:59 PM

    You.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:19:02 PM

    We went down and.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:19:20 PM

    I got them.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:19:25 PM

    Ohh.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:19:27 PM

    Ohh.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:02 PM

    No.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:17 PM

    Bing, Google systems.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:22 PM

    What does that mean?

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:24 PM

    Yummy.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:30 PM

    Soon.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:33 PM

    Princesses.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:35 PM

    Hope.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:38 PM

    Sense.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:41 PM

    Message Mama.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:47 PM

    Yes, I'm done. We're going. Fucking sorry, baby.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:50 PM

    A consortium will soon please.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:24:53 PM

    Into the pool.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:25:00 PM

    I love the rain. How are you?

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:25:01 PM

    Yes.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:25:04 PM

    Unless you stay.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:25:06 PM

    How are you?

    thevecentre
  • logokoart02:25:10 PM

    I'm good. Just get there on the ground tonight. What's where is everybody?

    logokoart
  • logokoart02:25:12 PM

    Thank you.

    logokoart
  • thevecentre02:25:12 PM

    I didn't know.

    thevecentre
  • logokoart02:25:17 PM

    Sure.

    logokoart
  • thevecentre02:25:18 PM

    I feel, I feel should we look up and go?

    thevecentre
  • logokoart02:25:25 PM

    Well, if you wanna have an early night, I would do it now before they.

    logokoart
  • thevecentre02:25:29 PM

    No, good. We'll give it a bit of time. I normally give it to that one.

    thevecentre
  • logokoart02:25:31 PM

    Fair enough.

    logokoart
  • logokoart02:25:34 PM

    Fair enough.

    logokoart
  • thevecentre02:25:36 PM

    It's working.

    thevecentre
  • logokoart02:25:38 PM

    What you been up to today? Been horrible day, isn't it?

    logokoart
  • thevecentre02:25:39 PM

    Oh my God.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:25:41 PM

    Was it terrible?

    thevecentre
  • logokoart02:25:44 PM

    We went to.

    logokoart
  • thevecentre02:25:45 PM

    We went to Jodi's mum and dad.

    thevecentre
  • logokoart02:25:45 PM

    Correct.

    logokoart
  • logokoart02:25:50 PM

    Ohh okay it wasn't horrible because of that was it was.

    logokoart
  • logokoart02:25:52 PM

    Okay.

    logokoart
  • thevecentre02:25:53 PM

    No, no, no, no, no, no. Just because of the weather.

    thevecentre
  • logokoart02:25:54 PM

    That's not.

    logokoart
  • thevecentre02:25:57 PM

    No, it's it's so nice to say. I always, I like it during that.

    thevecentre
  • logokoart02:25:56 PM

    Like.

    logokoart
  • logokoart02:26:01 PM

    Yeah, yeah. Here comes trouble.

    logokoart
  • thevecentre02:26:05 PM

    With himself.

    thevecentre
  • logokoart02:26:10 PM

    Evening stream.

    logokoart
  • dastreamcatcher02:26:14 PM

    Well, that's quite a welcome. Hello Lauren, how are you?

    dastreamcatcher
  • logokoart02:26:18 PM

    I'm good. How are you?

    logokoart
  • dastreamcatcher02:26:20 PM

    Trouble, evidently.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:26:22 PM

    My wife would agree with you.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:26:22 PM

    That's because she loves you, I think.

    thevecentre
  • artist_jodi02:26:25 PM

    In the UK, trouble is a term of endearment.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:26:30 PM

    Ohh yeah. Just like here. Bless your heart. That means you're not too quick.

    dastreamcatcher
  • logokoart02:26:35 PM

    Yeah, I'm often called special as well.

    logokoart
  • dastreamcatcher02:26:39 PM

    How is everyone today over on the rock?

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:26:44 PM

    Ohh yeah, we're on the rock, can't we?

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:26:48 PM

    That's what it used to be called before Alcatraz took the name.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:26:50 PM

    Good to know.

    artist_jodi
  • thevecentre02:27:03 PM

    Now here's here's something for your stream. I read an article and said at last someone who understands.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:27:07 PM

    The what's happening in the future and stuff like that.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:27:10 PM

    How did they interview me? I must have been asleep.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:27:19 PM

    Told you.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:27:20 PM

    Because I don't know, because Elon Musk is gonna talking gate the Twitter so you can't get in in Twitter without your wallet.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:27:21 PM

    Told you.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:27:24 PM

    And that's mass adoption, my friend.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:27:25 PM

    Told you.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:27:29 PM

    Everyone's going to have even me. I have to have a wallet.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:27:38 PM

    Well, I I don't know if it'll it's going to take time for it to become a prerequisite, a requirement, but I tell I've been preaching this for months.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:27:42 PM

    That's what he's going to do. He's going to Tokenise Twitter told you.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:27:45 PM

    It's not hard to figure out.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:27:51 PM

    At all. And this is, I mean, how many millions in in, in Twitter?

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:27:56 PM

    How many users in Twitter?

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:28:03 PM

    So almost half a billion.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:28:07 PM

    360 or 70, something like that. Ohh no wait. 397 sorry turn wait. Now I have to look it up. Yeah, it's it's somewhere in the range of of half a billion off and on, you know.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:28:10 PM

    I guess if you take the.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:28:12 PM

    Bots away it might be less.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:28:18 PM

    Worldwide. And then this is Google reporting it, so it can't be, you know, completely.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:28:24 PM

    Taken as gospel, but 396.5 million users? Yeah right 306.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:28:27 PM

    Give or take 50 million.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:28:28 PM

    Give or take.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:28:31 PM

    Yeah, I think so.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:28:37 PM

    That's pretty impressive to go for that.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:28:39 PM

    Well, I mean if you think about it.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:28:43 PM

    I mean, I don't know if it's right or wrong or he's going head or not, but it just read the article and.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:28:47 PM

    If you think about it this way, it's about, you know, probably about 115th of the world's population.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:28:50 PM

    Well.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:28:58 PM

    Meta, yeah.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:29:00 PM

    Yeah, and if Facebook follows suit and Instagram and social media, this is the only way to the massive adoption.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:29:05 PM

    Well, it's like I keep telling everybody they're building.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:29:20 PM

    The the frameworks and the systems that might potentially enslave them because everything is going to become tokenised, everything is, is they access to networks, access to data, avatars, 3D models, whatever. Everything will be tokenised and that'll be the new economy.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:29:25 PM

    And it makes sense.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:29:28 PM

    Makes a lot of sense.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:29:32 PM

    Especially when you want people to live in the pods, eat the bugs and have universal basic income, they gotta have something to do.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:29:32 PM

    2.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:29:38 PM

    Exactly.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:29:41 PM

    Let me find the article and I pin it up there.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:29:47 PM

    Welcome Lyon.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:29:54 PM

    So, Jody, you went from exhibiting to plumping up, huh?

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:30:00 PM

    I changed it cause you said I'm I'm exhibiting.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:30:01 PM

    I saw that while you were.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:30:07 PM

    That's.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:30:08 PM

    Now you're a what? A hippo.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:30:11 PM

    That's Henrietta hippo, yeah.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:30:12 PM

    Ohh.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:30:14 PM

    Kind of looks scary.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:30:21 PM

    But the likeness isn't very good. I don't really resemble her.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:30:25 PM

    No, no, you kind of went to the other extreme.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:30:32 PM

    There's people on here that change their PFP saw, but I can never keep track and I always thought ohh, you're that person.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:30:40 PM

    I just thought it would be different for a change. Got bored of my logo.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:30:44 PM

    Gotta mix it up from time to time.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:30:51 PM

    So what do you think the future is? Mish Web Three is an NFT and all that jazz?

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:30:54 PM

    Share your views and thoughts.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:31:01 PM

    Fascinating.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:31:04 PM

    I miss she's doing something, he said. Could you give him one second?

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:31:05 PM

    You on LinkedIn still?

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:31:08 PM

    He's still looking for the article, basically.

    artist_jodi
  • logokoart02:31:14 PM

    No, I think it's toast time.

    logokoart
  • artist_jodi02:31:19 PM

    No, he's not eating at the moment. Actually quite surprising.

    artist_jodi
  • artist_jodi02:31:37 PM

    So what have you been up to stream?

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:31:42 PM

    Ohh.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:31:49 PM

    Working with automatic, trying to figure that out which is the stable diffusion web GUI.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:31:57 PM

    Adding some extensions to it, experimenting, running the same prompts through three or four different cans.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:32:00 PM

    Um.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:32:18 PM

    Tonight to decide what graphics card to put in another machine to build another stable diffusion rig. Cause I've got 3060 with 12 gigs which could do Dream Booth now and automatic and I've got a 3070 with eight gigs which can't. So I'm thinking about actually downgrading for the moment for the other system and.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:32:34 PM

    And then trying to figure out how to get a handle on the 120,000 or so images I've probably got. Just looking through them, trying to figure out what to pull together into the art I want to make is like, Oh my God, what did I do?

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:32:37 PM

    I hope you'll get um cataloguing.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:32:44 PM

    Not really. I mean I am to a point I put will make a lot of folders, probably too many.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:32:45 PM

    So.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:32:50 PM

    I've always been good at naming and filing and doing certain things to a certain degree. But.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:33:00 PM

    Yeah, more of a better system would be more desirable, but I just don't even know how to do a better system right now than what I'm doing.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:33:06 PM

    Interesting.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:33:11 PM

    Well, it's just it's because I have multiple machines.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:33:23 PM

    Multiple hard drives, a big 43 or 43 formatted TB NET network attached storage device that I'm trying to push out everything to to kind of make it a central repo, but.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:33:32 PM

    We're talking about 20 years of data, you know, spread around on all kinds of stuff. So it's a.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:33:34 PM

    Yeah.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:33:39 PM

    It's like I I go back into the old folders, just look for art now to run through stable diffusion.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:33:46 PM

    I told you, you are the male version of Jodie.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:33:49 PM

    She has similar problem with that.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:33:56 PM

    I know we we sound much more similar than we are different in that regard.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:34:02 PM

    Definitely, and you work for, sort of.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:34:06 PM

    Way how you work and stuff like that. It's very very similar.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:34:09 PM

    It has to be done, and I'm the only one who can do it.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:34:17 PM

    And and all the files. I mean Jodie if she cleared her files and she Oh my God.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:34:31 PM

    An enormous amount of files, files of files or files. I mean, she's kinda all her painting. Well, not all of her. Most of her paintings, she's candid.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:34:33 PM

    Flatbed scanner.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:34:34 PM

    Hmm.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:34:37 PM

    Gigabytes each.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:34:42 PM

    So it's like some paintings are 28 scans. It's all on 8/3 scanner.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:34:43 PM

    Epson scanner.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:34:45 PM

    But the quality?

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:34:48 PM

    Are you scan them a piece at a time? Wow.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:34:51 PM

    Yeah, yeah. She's called him and bits and then stitch him up in unfold shop.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:34:54 PM

    Wow, that's a lot of work.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:34:57 PM

    Honestly, is.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:34:59 PM

    Yeah.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:35:01 PM

    It's worth it though, the the print you get off that is pixel sharp. It's incredible.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:35:06 PM

    I bet what's the actual DPI you're at, right when you're with the final.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:35:11 PM

    300 so one metre square. I would break it up into probably about 24 pieces.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:35:12 PM

    Hmm.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:35:15 PM

    Each one 300 DPI and then stitch it together.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:35:21 PM

    Your final file size would have to be at least three or four gigs I would think.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:35:28 PM

    Um, no. It was usually about two 5300 Meg. Not too bad actually.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:35:31 PM

    Are you compressing that?

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:35:40 PM

    Uh, at the end? Yeah. So the final, the final one I can when it's all recombined, about 250 Meg.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:35:42 PM

    That's what a ping.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:35:45 PM

    Test 1 painting.

    thevecentre
  • artist_jodi02:35:46 PM

    Painting. Yeah, one painting.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:35:48 PM

    No, it's a ping file PNG.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:35:49 PM

    Night night.

    artist_jodi
  • artist_jodi02:35:51 PM

    Um.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:35:51 PM

    If.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:35:53 PM

    PSD.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:35:54 PM

    As a PSD, OK.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:35:55 PM

    Ohh.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:35:58 PM

    That's pretty small for that file size.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:36:01 PM

    But any painting.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:36:03 PM

    Well, no, I guess. I guess flattened. I guess flattened. It might not be too bad, yeah.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:36:05 PM

    But.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:36:08 PM

    I keep thinking I'm I'm working in layers with files that are ginormous now.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:36:12 PM

    Yeah.

    thevecentre
  • artist_jodi02:36:18 PM

    Yeah, no, it's probably it would only be maximum 24 layers that I'd combine at the end once I've blended it all through.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:36:19 PM

    Right.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:36:25 PM

    I always scan with an overlap um and then feather it back.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:36:33 PM

    That's cool. I've I always I like this cool trick with digital photography that I do, which is.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:36:36 PM

    You take a layer.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:37:00 PM

    You duplicate your image and the top layer, you invert it and you give it a Gaussian blur so that it's. You can just define shape and form. You know of some of the detail a little bit, but just shape and form. So whereas you know the blur is just almost like you're blurring your eyes at the image and then you hit, you change the blending mode to soft light.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:37:04 PM

    And it pops out all kinds of details in your digital image.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:37:14 PM

    Yeah, it's cool. I should maybe place like, I mean some of the scams. You've got all the texture in the, um, 3D paint.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:37:15 PM

    Hmm.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:37:25 PM

    So because you scan it and you've got no distance between the image and the lens, you get this really crisp scan from it.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:37:26 PM

    Ohh.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:37:45 PM

    Yeah, we've done, I've done drum scanning in the past. I've done large format, large flatbed scanning and I've seen people do, but I haven't done it myself. Where you do like the film back camera, like the Hasselblad photos, where you, you know, lay it flat, light it really well and take a a top down shot like with a Hasselblad.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:37:56 PM

    I did experiments. We had them at one show. They had the kupix scanner, which was a giant flatbed scanner. I'm sure you know what it was.

    artist_jodi
  • artist_jodi02:38:06 PM

    Um, but I still. There was a distance again between the image and the lens, so they they were slightly softer than a direct scan on a flatbed.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:38:13 PM

    What is interesting technology? Little things that you run into, isn't it?

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:38:29 PM

    Yeah, it is the one of our friends that, um, Epson, um used to work at Epson. He had a client that bought a scanner and took it to a beach so so that he could scan rather than photograph. Crazy.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:38:34 PM

    So he could scan rather than photograph.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:38:37 PM

    How does that work?

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:38:38 PM

    Yeah, some. It was something like that. Can't remember.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:38:41 PM

    Just hold the scanner up and say cheese.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:38:42 PM

    Yeah.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:38:45 PM

    Okay.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:38:47 PM

    Reflects your boat there, buddy.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:38:53 PM

    Welcome. We have a new people we have.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:38:54 PM

    Dot.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:39:01 PM

    We have Jonathan. What's up, guys? Girls, ladies, people, humans.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:39:04 PM

    Robots.

    artist_jodi
  • thevecentre02:39:10 PM

    Jonathan Krissie, hello, how are you?

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:39:10 PM

    4 bots, possibly bots welcome all bots. We welcome our robot overlords.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:39:24 PM

    Hey, Jonathan, how you doing? Good to see you.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:39:29 PM

    Peace.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:39:31 PM

    Hello. Hey, Jody. Hey, stream. Hey, miss. How's everybody doing?

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi02:39:34 PM

    Yeah, we're all good. How are you?

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas202:39:40 PM

    I am wonderful, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful, thoroughly blessed.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:39:44 PM

    And Lauren. Hello, Lauren.

    jonathanicreas2
  • logokoart02:39:46 PM

    Hello, Jonathan.

    logokoart
  • jonathanicreas202:39:48 PM

    Hmm. How really.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:39:57 PM

    What's new? I'm.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:39:59 PM

    In the future.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:40:01 PM

    So tell us the future. Tell us the future, Jonathan. What is what is the future of Web 3 and NFT?

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:40:09 PM

    The future is now more. No, I don't. I know. I don't know. If I told you, I'd be lying.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:40:16 PM

    I don't know, every day it seems to be different, but everyday it seems still the same, so.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:40:18 PM

    You got me.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:40:50 PM

    And really it really hasn't changed much other than the price of things, you know, and like the whole year I've been in, it's almost a year now in December will be a year and it's like it's still kind of the same. I mean it's it's it's better now instead of bullets when I came in. But you know other than that it's it's great to see the people that are here that are still here after it became better. So it's it's great you get to know people really really well. I know the people I don't want to b

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:40:55 PM

    Well, I didn't want to be long, so there you go. That's the future for me.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:41:02 PM

    Definitely weeds out some of the skinnier types.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:41:05 PM

    Right, right. Thank goodness.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:41:08 PM

    Okay.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:41:18 PM

    What's new in you guys neighbourhood? I haven't spoken to you in awhile. I took a I took a leave of absence for couple weeks there and.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:41:22 PM

    Getting just getting myself organised and moved to Nashville.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:41:27 PM

    So I'm in the I'm in the Music City now, so.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:41:33 PM

    You're going to my first actual RL event this coming Saturday.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:42:02 PM

    It's undead blocks event, zombie game. I'm not a gamer, but I'm looking forward to meeting some people that I know from, from web three and from Twitter that are going to be there speaking and stuff and just, you know, holding the event. And I'm really, really looking forward to meeting some of the people. And I've also spoken to some other people who had, I guess Nashville apparently has a web through community and I'm looking forward to getting involved in, you know, some RL.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:42:24 PM

    Because I know everybody from the voices but you know I just don't know anybody from like everybody I know like personally like has no idea what I'm doing. I think I'm crazy. But everybody else that I talked to is like on here or you know on I find a lot of Instagram nfg web, three people but in some LinkedIn now but.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:42:27 PM

    I don't know, miss excited.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:42:33 PM

    I love building, so just for me this is bare board down there.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:42:39 PM

    Well, when you can't sell your build.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:42:40 PM

    Right.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:42:49 PM

    And that's off. And I haven't had a budget to collect all year, so that's all. That's all I can do and I'm having fun doing it, so.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:42:56 PM

    You just have to do what you have to do, man.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:43:00 PM

    You don't. You have three options.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:43:06 PM

    If I it's either give up, give in, or give it all what you've got.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:43:09 PM

    Wait, you can give up. Ohh good I give up.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:43:09 PM

    Ohh God.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:43:12 PM

    Don't wanna tell?

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:43:12 PM

    Okay.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:43:14 PM

    Stream is throwing in the towel.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:43:15 PM

    Stream. Would you still come to space this stream?

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:43:19 PM

    No, giving up requires giving up entirely. I when I commit, I commit.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:43:29 PM

    I witnessed somebody giving up today like literally in a space this morning and it was so sad cause she like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:43:35 PM

    She had a good following, around 2000 followers and she just like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:43:38 PM

    Apparently it was getting bullied.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:43:51 PM

    Words, but I don't know but maybe one or two individuals and they just like done such a job and you need thick skin. You really do need thick skin for this, but at the same time like take a break, you know, like you got to.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:44:16 PM

    Don't let the haters that try and beat you defeat you, you know, because they're out there. Not everybody's here for you like you are for them. And they're out there and I know it. You know? Miss. Miss knows. Miss knows. I hate her here and in this room. She doesn't come here anymore. But she was hating on me big time. But what did I do, miss? I just let it go. What happened? Nothing. You know what I mean? So.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:44:22 PM

    I missed, I must have missed some drama in here.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi02:44:25 PM

    Who is hitting on you?

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher02:44:28 PM

    Hating, not hating, hating.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:44:40 PM

    No, not, not hit. Not hitting. Hate hitting and she might have been hitting on me and then maybe that's what it was. I wasn't like putting on her back you know I don't I don't know what it was but this was before you really can't started coming around so that's maybe about.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:44:43 PM

    What do you think? What do you think, Jonathan?

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:44:42 PM

    I've been here since the beginning.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:44:44 PM

    Well, I mean like like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:44:46 PM

    What do you think Jonathan of?

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:44:49 PM

    Twitter talking. Gating.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:44:52 PM

    Sorry, Elon Musk talking it in Twitter.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:44:54 PM

    What?

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:45:02 PM

    And you can't go into any social media without having a wallet connecting to a wallet. What do you think of that?

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:45:17 PM

    Well it I don't know it really it to me it's it's it's not a it's not a big surprise because a lot of the um a lot of the communities that they're they're using the token gate to.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:45:18 PM

    Like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:45:31 PM

    To to gain loyalty really you know to their to their platforms because like I don't know if you guys know NFT buzz, it's got a real.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:45:56 PM

    You know real promo thing going on where he promotes a lot of a lot of projects and stuff like that but you gotta be token gated into his little or I say his but it could be theirs. It could be you know a lot of people involved you know and and and they do, they run, they they curate well, they run you know they they run good projects. They promote good projects but still it's like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:46:02 PM

    You know, for those coming in, you know, the new people coming in.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:46:19 PM

    That are creators, you know it. It can be difficult for them, I think if, when that happens. If and when. I'm going to say when because it's moving towards that direction. But you know, I don't know, like a lot of the smaller like mish communities are already doing that, you know?

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:46:30 PM

    So like I like you guys are you are you got involved with little button down there that's the communities button or whatever the.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:46:31 PM

    Twitter communities.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:46:34 PM

    Like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:46:44 PM

    I do some in blender and cinema and some other stuff and I started one, but I haven't even like advertised it to add members because it's pointless at this point.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:46:57 PM

    Yeah. OK. Well, some of those are like, you know, they have like a, they have like outer circle and then the inner circle and the inner circle, they're all took it. So you have to own, you have to be a holder and.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:47:12 PM

    You know, and I like, I I don't know, I I live on disability, man. You know what I mean? Like, and because of my legal troubles this year, I've had five months of that cut off, you know, so I've had to live off of six months worth of.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:47:22 PM

    You know, funds all year long. I made it somehow, you know, God willing, like always, I'm going to make it. But.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:47:33 PM

    I don't know. I can't afford that stuff. So I'm just, I'm just building. I'm finally ready to like, you know, now that I'm kind of getting settled here in Nashville, I'm ready to start building.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:47:47 PM

    Community again, I was, I was up to the point last summer when it was really really good and everything was moving really, really well and you know, you know Jody like, you know, before I got hacked and and all that stuff like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:48:19 PM

    Um, I was, I was moving pretty good moving around in a really great direction too. I had a, you know, digital niche agency was wanting to buy my company Creasy Bear images for a substantial amount. And like all that happened like three days before the acquisition meeting. And I'm kind of glad that it happened that well, I'm not glad it happened but I'm, I'm grateful that I didn't sell them because I at the time I was like you know struggling and everything. I probably would have bit.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:48:20 PM

    You know, for basically.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:48:50 PM

    Anything that you know, seemed like it was a good deal, but my name is on that, you know like who knows what they would have done with it. You know like and that's my last, my last name and he's like literally the first name of the business. So I don't know what, you know, maybe they just wanted the assets, I don't know because I was getting like 60 to 70% content engagement on Instagram and I think that's that's the one that was really that they were interested in because.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:49:05 PM

    I don't know. I mean I I really don't know cause I never, I never ended up having a meeting with the guy. So, but I don't know if I did it once I can do it again you know. But at that at that time I'm I've been doing a lot of research and.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:49:08 PM

    You know kind of moving in the direction that.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:49:15 PM

    You know, like I'm. I'm wanting to build my own network and stuff like that. I finally was able to do that.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:49:41 PM

    Last month, um, you know, I'm working in the back, in the back of the house so to speak, as if we were in a restaurant and I'm in the back of the House doing all that work and I finally got my own network built using unified software. So I'm trying to sell few nfts now just so I can buy some hardware to go along with the software and then after I did that Cisco shit me like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:49:59 PM

    All of their software like hey familiarise yourself with this and then here's study guide and here's all these people that you can talk to to help you pass the CISP or CI, SSP whatever it is. So I can you know have all of their.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:50:11 PM

    You know, cyber security be I can be inside of their cyber security network as well. So I don't know, I'm pretty excited. It's gonna take a lot of studying, a lot of hard work, but you know, that's what I want to focus on is.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:50:23 PM

    Just doing that and then, you know, getting levelling up, you know, basically and in the mean time, you know somebody wants some ads created like, you know, I can have some fun with that.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:50:28 PM

    Wow, that was.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:50:32 PM

    What was that gonna say?

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:50:37 PM

    What were you gonna say, Miss? I talked a lot there.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:50:39 PM

    I was gonna say it's a long, it's a long answer to one question.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:50:42 PM

    I know, right? I just. I came in hot. I come in hot.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:50:48 PM

    100%, I gotta give you 100%.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:50:50 PM

    I was on this.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:50:54 PM

    Bam. Here I am.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:50:57 PM

    What do you think of that answer? The strip?

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:51:01 PM

    Ohh, now I don't say anything else. See, now I'm gonna sit and be quiet.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:51:02 PM

    No, it's true.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:51:08 PM

    Josh, hello, how are you? Welcome to spaceman.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:51:14 PM

    Josh.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:51:17 PM

    You lagging all the time.

    thevecentre
  • modestminer02:51:20 PM

    No, sorry, baby was screaming.

    modestminer
  • thevecentre02:51:22 PM

    Ohh.

    thevecentre
  • modestminer02:51:23 PM

    And I was saving your ears.

    modestminer
  • thevecentre02:51:29 PM

    That's right, baby screaming is natural, something natural. So it's alright.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:51:31 PM

    It doesn't bother us.

    thevecentre
  • modestminer02:51:34 PM

    Yeah, it's so beautiful and all that fun stuff too.

    modestminer
  • modestminer02:51:40 PM

    You can come over and get screamed at for a little bit.

    modestminer
  • thevecentre02:51:44 PM

    Anytime, man, but it's just, uh, it's just a distance.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:51:50 PM

    Cause it's good that you, uh, you have other people's kids because you can give them back.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:51:53 PM

    When they scream.

    thevecentre
  • modestminer02:51:56 PM

    Yeah.

    modestminer
  • jonathanicreas202:51:59 PM

    Right.

    jonathanicreas2
  • modestminer02:52:01 PM

    Unless you have as many kids as my brother has and.

    modestminer
  • modestminer02:52:06 PM

    You know when you're when you reach 5, they'll kill you before you can give them back.

    modestminer
  • modestminer02:52:07 PM

    So.

    modestminer
  • modestminer02:52:08 PM

    Be careful.

    modestminer
  • jonathanicreas202:52:12 PM

    I thought you feed them a bunch of candy 1st and then give them back.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:52:18 PM

    Yeah, give them my key to give them back to you. Hypers. Really hyper.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:52:22 PM

    Would you sleep?

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:52:30 PM

    With a loud toy with a loud toy to bring home here. Buy this fire engine for me, OK sure, bring sure you bring it home to your parents.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:52:38 PM

    Jodie and her brother used to, uh, get each other when they for the for the kids.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:52:41 PM

    The loudest toy?

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:52:55 PM

    Oh my God, they used to just everyone gets louder and louder and louder. It was horrible and unfortunately the baby likes the loudest noise.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:53:08 PM

    I think I'm gonna come up with something called the loud machine and market it towards very small children and just it's just going to be like this little box that you can press buttons and it just makes all kinds of like obnoxious noises.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:53:11 PM

    I think that would sell.

    jonathanicreas2
  • modestminer02:53:15 PM

    I was gonna say you mean you mean.

    modestminer
  • dastreamcatcher02:53:15 PM

    Twitter. Twitter built that in. The little microphone thing down at the bottom.

    dastreamcatcher
  • modestminer02:53:17 PM

    You just mean kids toys.

    modestminer
  • jonathanicreas202:53:16 PM

    Yeah, you mean space?

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:53:19 PM

    Just, yeah.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:53:22 PM

    Just give him a Twitter phone.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:53:24 PM

    Yeah.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:53:29 PM

    Ohh 94 hello, how are you? Welcome to space my friend.

    thevecentre
  • ark945102:53:34 PM

    The invite bro. Appreciate you. How are you?

    ark9451
  • thevecentre02:53:40 PM

    Yeah, I'm good, man. I'm always good. Whether it's up, whether it's down, I'm always good.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:53:44 PM

    I just, I just.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:53:50 PM

    And get on with it. Basically. So do you have kids are.

    thevecentre
  • ark945102:53:52 PM

    I have none.

    ark9451
  • thevecentre02:53:56 PM

    Good choice.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:54:04 PM

    So how are you doing this? This market, my friend.

    thevecentre
  • ark945102:54:15 PM

    I'm doing pretty good, still building, still building. Trying to come up with more innovative ideas to bring more awareness, you know, to me, my collection, you know.

    ark9451
  • thevecentre02:54:21 PM

    Good for you man. This is the time to build.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:54:33 PM

    I want to know what Jodi's been doing. She's been like, I don't know, I'm talking guys so long. I I don't. I'm not up to date. What are you doing, Jody? I'm curious.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:54:36 PM

    Wow.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:54:40 PM

    She like, is she like, is she like amazing you daily still?

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:54:43 PM

    She's doing, she's doing um.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:54:44 PM

    Something secret?

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:54:47 PM

    I can tell them.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:54:48 PM

    Home.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:54:53 PM

    No, she can tell you.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:54:57 PM

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:55:01 PM

    She's on contract with Pornhub to do a VR metaverse.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:55:03 PM

    I was sweet.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:55:06 PM

    Ohh that would have been my that would be my day man.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:55:08 PM

    Yeah, you could look at it on your iPad.

    dastreamcatcher
  • modestminer02:55:17 PM

    Dude, I would say congratulations. That contract would be freaking huge.

    modestminer
  • thevecentre02:55:16 PM

    Of course I've got my iPad ready, man.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:55:19 PM

    You know I.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:55:20 PM

    Ohh, I'd be yeah, that's that's a that's a winner winner chicken dinner.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:55:22 PM

    There's some bad karma to wash off all the time though.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:55:26 PM

    Yeah, yeah, you will break some sticky stuff on with you.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:55:32 PM

    I would have been looking for a really big, huge house to live in.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:55:32 PM

    Big, huge something.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre02:55:34 PM

    Yeah.

    thevecentre
  • modestminer02:55:47 PM

    Maybe you make that as part of the experience when you're exiting the the world, it's actually a shower that washes you off because you feel like you need to be cleaned exiting.

    modestminer
  • thevecentre02:55:48 PM

    Yeah.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:55:52 PM

    That's a very good idea.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:55:56 PM

    Who said the idea that the the Pornhub?

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre02:56:00 PM

    Upstream, yeah.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:56:00 PM

    Got a stream?

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:56:02 PM

    It's very strange.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:56:03 PM

    Ohh, just drop it. Let's go back to boiling chicken.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:56:04 PM

    Going to.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:56:06 PM

    Now you got me thinking, man. That's it.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:56:10 PM

    Oh my God stream when I lived in, when I lived in San Rafael.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:56:10 PM

    You're thinking with the wrong head.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:56:19 PM

    Right when I lived in San Rafael, bro. Like, there was this massage parlour, this Asian massage parlour, like right next door to my apartment.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:56:50 PM

    And like he didn't have a shower in his massage parlour, so he like we became friends or whatever. Like we talk all the time. He come over smoke cigarette when I, you know, I was out grilling or something and he come over and talk to me anyway. He had this like New Girl. He's like, I got this New Girl. And like, you know, she wants she's going to work it, she's going to work the overnight shift or whatever. She wants to take a shower before she goes home. She's like, can we rent your shower? She

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:56:56 PM

    Whatever, she's got on her down my drains, you know, I was plumbing back then too, so yeah.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:57:04 PM

    Yeah, it's like, how dirty do you get? Given massages, you know? Uh.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:57:06 PM

    Right, right. I mean I had an idea but.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:57:08 PM

    We love you. Long time.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:57:12 PM

    Ohh man 2.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:57:21 PM

    We have to think about that Jodie and how to approach it and stuff like that and how to approach.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher02:57:23 PM

    Call it love you long time dot I/O.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:57:31 PM

    Right. And I've got, I've got some people on Instagram that you probably would like it to me. They're all in the industry.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:57:36 PM

    Only fans has gone from like 19,000 million in three years.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:57:41 PM

    That's nuts.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:57:42 PM

    Say that again, you're right, little bit.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:57:49 PM

    Only fans has gone from like multiple thousands of members to like a million in three years.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:58:04 PM

    Ohh, I thought about getting on there and like you know, like changing the oil in the car naked or something like that or chopping wood. You know, like just, you know, some kind of little video or whatever, seeing what kind of following I get.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:58:08 PM

    Hey, I'm sick.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:58:10 PM

    I'm gonna venture to say that nobody wants to see that, but you know, you could be good looking. I have no idea.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:58:16 PM

    I am a shape. I'm still. I'm still pretty handsome. Be 40, you know I get there. I do, I do my diamond.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:58:18 PM

    Yeah.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:58:19 PM

    Just advertise in certain markets, like San Francisco, and you'll be you'll be the belle of the ball.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher02:58:26 PM

    Somebody would be putting you in one of them leather dog outfits in no time.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:58:30 PM

    Ohh yeah yeah yeah yeah. Especially during pride and they beta Breakers. Yeah yeah we got beta Breakers. Ohh for I'll be the star.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:58:47 PM

    We actually had a friend come in from West Virginia when we were still living in San Francisco. My wife's friend, and the time she came in was the same time as the Castro Street fair, so she got to see that that was something.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:58:54 PM

    The Fillmore, the Fillmore St Bro is the one or Folsom fault is it falls to yeah Folsom Street Fair or Fillmore.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:59:00 PM

    Yeah, yeah.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:59:01 PM

    Well, yeah, pull some, it's all, it's all kind of the same thing. It's all, it's all South of market and it's all that area and yeah.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:59:02 PM

    Yeah.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:59:07 PM

    Yeah, that one. That one's a odd one. I mean, but people don't get it either. It's just like a normal thing.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:59:08 PM

    You know.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:59:21 PM

    Yeah.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:59:24 PM

    Yeah, that's.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas202:59:26 PM

    That's.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:59:26 PM

    No, some guy, some guy posted on Twitter a few weeks ago. I saw it. He was just posted a little video of him driving down the street in San Francisco and some guy was walking buck ass naked down the street with a top hat and a little scarf on. It was like, Yep, nobody cares anymore. That's the downfall of civilization man. Rome 2 dot O.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:59:38 PM

    That's the city. I mean, it's it. It's not why I moved away. But like, you know, it wasn't like, I mean, I didn't really care. I don't judge that much, you know, that much, but still, you know, I don't know.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre02:59:41 PM

    So you still judge, but not that much.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas202:59:51 PM

    Why? For being honest here. If we're being honest here, yeah, I do. Does a little. I'm. I ntj. That means, you know, the part of that is judging.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher02:59:54 PM

    Ohh, I'm very judgey.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas202:59:57 PM

    Seems like yeah, me too, bro.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre03:00:00 PM

    Uh, we know that very well. Stream.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher03:00:03 PM

    I've been judging all my life.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:00:05 PM

    You.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:00:05 PM

    There's a lot of stuff to judge.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre03:00:07 PM

    I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't hear it in your voice.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher03:00:12 PM

    You know who you know? One of my favourite character comic book characters was growing up Judge Dredd.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:00:15 PM

    Ohh.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:00:16 PM

    And then Stallone got ahold of it. Look.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:00:19 PM

    Ohh yeah yeah he he ruined it for you.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:00:26 PM

    Yeah, not ruined it, but it wasn't that great. It wasn't Judge Dredd. Like the comic books, like you think you know.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:00:28 PM

    Like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:00:35 PM

    I see. I grew up on all this stuff that all the kids and all the young people nowadays are thinking. This is just the coolest thing ever. And I grew up when kids would get beat up for liking that stuff.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:00:40 PM

    Right, like I like spawn came out when I was.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:00:58 PM

    Young like I well, I guess I was teenager then, but like I was still a teenager. Like, kind of like and still into it because of the art and illustration and stuff. But you know, I was a collector for years. I had all kinds of stuff, especially Superman. Like I got down with some Superman.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre03:01:04 PM

    Superman.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:01:08 PM

    So then, what do you think about that idea?

    thevecentre
  • logokoart03:01:12 PM

    Um.

    logokoart
  • logokoart03:01:15 PM

    Us I have no.

    logokoart
  • logokoart03:01:18 PM

    No idea what you were talking about to be honest.

    logokoart
  • dastreamcatcher03:01:22 PM

    Being judgy. You can do it I computer, come on.

    dastreamcatcher
  • logokoart03:01:27 PM

    Ohh do I have to?

    logokoart
  • logokoart03:01:32 PM

    Judgey yeah. I think there's an element of judgement that I.

    logokoart
  • logokoart03:01:35 PM

    Um, I observe a lot.

    logokoart
  • logokoart03:01:38 PM

    Like.

    logokoart
  • dastreamcatcher03:01:40 PM

    I think it's British by birth. Like, then don't you all come out a little judgy?

    dastreamcatcher
  • logokoart03:01:46 PM

    No, I mean for the most part I'm quite liberal, so.

    logokoart
  • logokoart03:01:51 PM

    It's only when it's really hurt somebody that I become judgey.

    logokoart
  • logokoart03:01:53 PM

    Oppose.

    logokoart
  • dastreamcatcher03:01:57 PM

    I'm just playing.

    dastreamcatcher
  • logokoart03:01:56 PM

    Live and let live.

    logokoart
  • dastreamcatcher03:02:10 PM

    Now most birds I've met are actually very nice people and they they they just they think they're better than Americans of course but you know there's that's a rivalry that's been going on since like T was you know shipped in the harbour so.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre03:02:11 PM

    We are better than Americans carry on.

    thevecentre
  • artist_jodi03:02:14 PM

    What's all these women Egyptian?

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:02:14 PM

    Speaks the man from Egypt.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:02:19 PM

    Ohh, of course you are. We we just let we just wink it. We just wink and nod. We're just winking and nodding off. Huh. Sure, no problem.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre03:02:21 PM

    Yeah, yeah, I said. We as Egyptians.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher03:02:22 PM

    And visit us and go on vacation and get off that rock.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre03:02:25 PM

    I said we as Egyptians rather than.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas203:02:28 PM

    Ohh okay.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:02:30 PM

    Ohh, I'm not even talking about Egyptians. You've been briefed.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre03:02:32 PM

    Ratified.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas203:02:33 PM

    Yeah, yeah, you're all bright now.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre03:02:37 PM

    No, I've been. I've been missing fight. I'm a mish.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher03:02:40 PM

    You're a miss.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:02:44 PM

    They're gonna.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:02:46 PM

    He's very British until he talks to a lot of Egyptians.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:02:50 PM

    Which is everyday all the time.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:02:51 PM

    Exactly.

    artist_jodi
  • thevecentre03:02:58 PM

    I would never say I'm British. I would never say I'm Egyptian.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:03:01 PM

    Honestly. Because.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:03:09 PM

    There's so many things that that says I'm not Egyptian. There's so many things that I that says that I'm not British, so I'm just.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:03:11 PM

    Me.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher03:03:13 PM

    Your emissions and.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre03:03:16 PM

    Yeah, join the mission.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas203:03:19 PM

    Misses love singing misses them.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre03:03:25 PM

    Yeah, let's do a new religion. That means she's.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher03:03:33 PM

    And I'm going to get Chinese food, even though they hate us.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:03:36 PM

    Ooh, that sounds nice.

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:04:07 PM

    Ohh wow.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:04:08 PM

    It's pretty good stuff. It's funny though, I don't know what it is with Chinese food places around here. Anyway, they all have like batten down the hatches. So this one place you go into it's walk and roll and they used to have a little area where you could sit and whatever and account or you go up. And so now it's been cordoned off to like a four by 4 foot area that they've put up. You know they they made all makeshift with like these wood things and plexiglass that's been screwed in and silico

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:04:15 PM

    And then you get your food out of a little drawer. You know that you have to see the person. It's like, and it's so funny. It's like. That's not stopping anything, bro.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:04:27 PM

    Yeah my my my step dad and all his infinite wisdom always told me he said a lot will only keep an honest man out. I imagine a plexiglass window would only keep a non violent person out.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:04:35 PM

    Ohh for COVID. Oh oh you know, I thought you meant like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:04:42 PM

    Well, that's yeah.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:04:42 PM

    No, no it's for COVID. It's they're thinking of protects them. Yeah they and these this no this is all for the for the for the virus that they you know came from over there and they're all like.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:04:43 PM

    Yeah.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:04:58 PM

    That's why a lot of people are moving out from I know a lot of, I've talked to a lot of people from Japan a lot of a lot lately. And they're all like we're trying to get out of here. Like the restrictions are so brutal there. It's just like they don't even want to be there anymore.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:05:04 PM

    I'd be afraid if I was Japan, that China did invade us.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:05:13 PM

    So do you still have lots of COVID stuff up in shops, like screens and things?

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:05:17 PM

    Not here really.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:05:22 PM

    No, not at all. That's kind of the point. No, that's that's kind of the point. It's like only the Chinese places. It's like, do you know something we don't?

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:05:26 PM

    Well, there you know.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:05:27 PM

    There are some shops here still have it.

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:05:31 PM

    You know stream, they were wearing masks for years. It's then Francisco, but way before.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:05:36 PM

    The mass became a thing out here in America, so.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:05:45 PM

    Ohh yeah I forgot about that.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:05:50 PM

    Well, that was that was a thing, and that was a thing in China and in Hong Kong. The SARS virus really brought a lot of that on one and two. In China, there was a lot of places that in the cities were so small, gladen, that you couldn't even hardly breathe, and people were a mess just to try and breathe better.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:06:00 PM

    So what Chinese do you get stream?

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:06:07 PM

    You're a good kind. No? What you mean what what do I order?

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:06:08 PM

    What dishes? What dishes? Yeah.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:06:15 PM

    Well, I tonight I'm having chicken chow main, pork fried rice, egg rolls, and wanton soup.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:06:18 PM

    Wow, that sounds nice.

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:06:22 PM

    I love pork fried rice and onions.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:06:23 PM

    Bye, bye.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:06:27 PM

    I shouldn't be laughing.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:06:31 PM

    I haven't had a Chinese for ages.

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:06:33 PM

    But it is.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:06:37 PM

    Yes, you should. Because it's funny. I make fun of everybody equally, and I don't care who thinks I'm a racist about it. Screw you.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:06:40 PM

    So you're not.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:06:41 PM

    Yeah, he's.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:06:41 PM

    Stream and stream, take him or leave him.

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:06:45 PM

    He's not a racist. He's just, he's just, he's just like stigma's.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:06:53 PM

    Right.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:07:08 PM

    Well, you know, what's funny about stereotypes is they're generally true. And that's what we used to be able to make fun of them and laugh at them and have fun at other people's expense, to a degree. To a degree. And everybody knew. And even if you were a little uncomfortable about it, sometimes you knew everybody was all in jest. But now everybody's feeling they're so far up their ass they can't even tell a joke from an insult.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:07:16 PM

    People are in their feelings all the time. Everywhere I go it seems like man in my feelings. Like, what are you talking about?

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:07:20 PM

    Go somewhere else. Get out of your feeling.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:07:40 PM

    I'm 25% Polish, and you could tell Pollock jokes all day long, and I'll laugh with you if they're funny. I mean, who cares? It's like, what? Why are you so sensitive about everything? That's really it's a it's a way to live like a, you know, like a hyperactive squirrel on meth all the time where you're constantly going, what's wrong? What's wrong? Who's going to send me? No thanks.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:07:55 PM

    My, my, my skin so thick these days, man, it would take a lot, like a lot for somebody to like, really. But sometimes, every once in a while, my ears will get rid of.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:08:01 PM

    Thanks a lot though.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:08:18 PM

    Yeah, I'm watching. I care.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:08:21 PM

    I just, I find it very hard to be insulted by anybody. I mean, you know, it's like the only people that can really insult me are people who really know me. You know, it's like if you, if you've gotten to know me well enough and then you insult me, it's like, well, maybe I have a problem, maybe something's going on, but otherwise, who the hell do you think you are? You know, I mean, I'm just a human being and you're a human being, so shut up.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:08:24 PM

    I don't know. People just. Feelings are just.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre03:08:27 PM

    If someone that knows you, he wouldn't even talk to you. He would never insult you, insulting his.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:08:30 PM

    Disrespectful, you know.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher03:08:29 PM

    Because they know it's dangerous.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:08:33 PM

    I'm kidding.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:08:39 PM

    Well, what? What, what? What's your favourite Chinese dishes, miss and Joey? Like what do you guys like to get Chinese?

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:08:40 PM

    Yeah, what are mish's dishes?

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:08:42 PM

    Missus. This I went to, missed it.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:08:46 PM

    Miss. Miss doesn't really actually like Chinese food. He has.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:08:47 PM

    Of course not, because it's not boiled.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:08:50 PM

    Yeah, no, but he'll have the um crispy duck.

    artist_jodi
  • thevecentre03:08:51 PM

    Do you speak up?

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher03:08:53 PM

    Crispy duck.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:08:59 PM

    He likes crispy duck, but I like um like any of the fried rices, usually egg fried rice.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:09:01 PM

    Ohh.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:09:03 PM

    And noodles and I like.

    artist_jodi
  • artist_jodi03:09:11 PM

    Beef in black bean sauce. I like, she sweats our chicken satay chicken, loads of stuff.

    artist_jodi
  • artist_jodi03:09:13 PM

    But I I don't.

    artist_jodi
  • artist_jodi03:09:16 PM

    Yeah.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:09:17 PM

    I love Thai food too. Thai food is the best. Ohh.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:09:17 PM

    I like I forgot about the black bean sauce.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:09:18 PM

    Repeat.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:09:31 PM

    Yeah, I just. I don't really get Chinese food anymore since our daughter's kind of not here. We used to get it and you know, all muck in, but for two of us and one of them's not gonna eat it. It gets a bit expensive to get the variety you need.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:09:37 PM

    You must know how to eat boiled chicken, like every way it's capable of being fixed.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:09:43 PM

    We don't. We don't have chicken out that one for now either. We haven't roast beef on Sunday. That would be nice.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:09:46 PM

    Roast beast, love roast beast.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:09:51 PM

    Hmm.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:09:53 PM

    Roast beef with Yorkshire puddings, roast potatoes, vegetables, gravy, spot on.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:09:55 PM

    You can keep the pudding, but the rest will take.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:09:56 PM

    Have you ever tried Yorkshire pudding?

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:10:00 PM

    A long, long time ago and I didn't like it.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:10:01 PM

    Do you like pancakes?

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:10:17 PM

    I mean, I'm not a real syrup kind of person, so pancakes like I thought the last time. In fact, I just told my wife I was having a craving recently for pancakes, but I want them like very very lightly buttered and then smeared with Nutella and cool whip on self.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:10:20 PM

    I wanna eat my pancakes.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:10:26 PM

    You see, we do, we do pancakes slightly differently in the UK. We do them more like a French crepe. So it's a flat, quite a big flat circle.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:10:29 PM

    Right. Ohh yeah, the crepes are great.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:10:35 PM

    Um and we put cheese, cheese and ham in them, but it's basically the mix is the same for Yorkshire pudding as it is for pancake.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:10:37 PM

    OK.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:10:39 PM

    Hmm.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:10:43 PM

    Just thicker and you bake it in the oven, but mine come up really fluffy and you fill them with gravy. MMM Yum.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:10:46 PM

    My wife.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:10:47 PM

    I like the salmon and spinach crepe.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:10:52 PM

    You just lost me.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:10:53 PM

    My wife loves biscuits and gravy. That's a very southern thing here.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:10:55 PM

    You completely lost me when you said spinach.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:10:57 PM

    A spinach crepe? Ohh yeah no no thank you.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:11:06 PM

    No, yeah, like salmon it I think it's got, it's been a while since I have. I think it's got salmon spinach and it's like some kind of like cheese cream sauce or something and it's so good.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:11:09 PM

    Yeah. Uh, cream cheese? Yeah.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:11:10 PM

    Yeah.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:11:17 PM

    Yeah, savoury pancakes are really, really yummy. Um ohh. You always have a safer one before you have one with lemon and sugar. That's how I have them.

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:11:17 PM

    Hmm.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:11:25 PM

    My grandmother used to make us crepes all the time. Very nice thin crepe pancakes which rolled and stuff with Jelly or honey butter or different things.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:11:27 PM

    Yeah, you mean?

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:11:27 PM

    You're creeping me out.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:11:29 PM

    Or apple butter. I'm sorry apple butter, but I don't like the apple butter.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:11:30 PM

    When you say Jelly, do you mean jam?

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:11:34 PM

    No, I mean Jelly. Darling. Jam is different than Jelly.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:11:38 PM

    Okay, just checking cause you know you speak a slightly different language to us.

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:11:42 PM

    Oh, there it is. There it is.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:11:45 PM

    The.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:11:48 PM

    Yes, but I do know the proper British. They do know the proper British. Sayings, speakings, the the way to say things properly in in the old King's English.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:11:51 PM

    I understand language very very well.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:11:53 PM

    I think you were just judged. I think you were just judged just then.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:11:55 PM

    I was just judged.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:11:55 PM

    No, no, I would.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:11:58 PM

    You have been judged and found inadequate.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre03:12:00 PM

    You're so funny when you sound so funny to me when you speak English.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:12:03 PM

    Because not English people don't speak like that.

    thevecentre
  • dastreamcatcher03:12:04 PM

    You want to speak English. You sound so funny when you speak English.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:12:07 PM

    Oh my God.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:12:08 PM

    Fish sounds funny.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:12:08 PM

    Important. Pardon, I need some snuff.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:12:14 PM

    We don't speak. We don't do stuff like that anymore.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:12:15 PM

    Ohh yes you do.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:12:18 PM

    It's not. It's still very popular over there, isn't it?

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:12:23 PM

    I don't know anyone that takes enough to you, Lauren.

    artist_jodi
  • logokoart03:12:26 PM

    And not at all.

    logokoart
  • dastreamcatcher03:12:30 PM

    They're still shipping it over here.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:12:32 PM

    Yeah.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:12:34 PM

    Not that I do it, but you know, yeah. Huh.

    dastreamcatcher
  • logokoart03:12:47 PM

    I do remember there is a there used to be in Kingston, so that's sort of suburbs of out of London. They used to be a snuff shop and they used to roast coffee as well.

    logokoart
  • artist_jodi03:12:48 PM

    Ohh wow.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:12:57 PM

    Very good. Yeah, that would be a good combo. Well, you, I, I will give the British one thing. They have the one of the greatest stories ever told.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:12:58 PM

    Camelot.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:13:05 PM

    And in King Arthur's court and Merlin and all, all of everything, it is one of the greatest stories in history.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:13:10 PM

    And almost, almost. And many things spin off of that that you would never think came from that but do.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:13:14 PM

    Yeah, I've always been partial to Merlin.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:13:20 PM

    Well, thank you.

    artist_jodi
  • artist_jodi03:13:24 PM

    Yeah, it's cool.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:13:26 PM

    Did you ever watch, did you, did you ever watch Stargate SG-1 where they kind of tied that all together? That was pretty cool.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:13:26 PM

    Cool.

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:13:27 PM

    Hmm.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:13:30 PM

    Cool, cool.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:13:32 PM

    Cool, innit bruv.

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:13:34 PM

    It's cool, man.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:13:36 PM

    We should start a gang. Let's start a gang.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:13:38 PM

    Gang.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:13:39 PM

    Ft gang like a real gang like.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:13:41 PM

    FTA angels.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:13:44 PM

    We need, we need like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:13:45 PM

    Ohh.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:13:45 PM

    Nft Angels does not sound like a gang.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:13:48 PM

    Like Hell's angels. Like Hell's angels.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:13:48 PM

    And when you like laws, when you like, when you like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:13:50 PM

    Ohh.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:13:52 PM

    Sounds like a sound like a bad Christmas movie NFT Angel.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:13:53 PM

    Charlie's Charlie's Angels sequel.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:13:56 PM

    Ohh, do you want me?

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:13:58 PM

    I'll be Charlie if you can be my angels.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:14:01 PM

    Well, mish mish can be one of your angels.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:14:05 PM

    Ohh God no. Seeing him in tight spandex not a good idea.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:14:09 PM

    I'm not allowed to talk about red and white string.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre03:14:10 PM

    No, we we can call it the missus.

    thevecentre
  • artist_jodi03:14:13 PM

    Pooh Bear is eating.

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:14:14 PM

    Yeah, that's not good. What was that, Jonathan?

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:14:17 PM

    I said I'm not allowed to talk about the red and white.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:14:19 PM

    The red and white what?

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:14:21 PM

    What the Hells Angels colours?

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:14:27 PM

    Ohh yeah I used to deal patto and then college. Actually. They used to sell me pot and then.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:14:29 PM

    And sell it back to them and other people.

    dastreamcatcher
  • dastreamcatcher03:14:35 PM

    I was a bad boy. I was really bad. I'm. It's really kind of a miracle I'm here.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:14:38 PM

    You too, bro. I got the tattoos to prove it.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:14:40 PM

    Oh my God.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:14:47 PM

    I don't have the well, I have three tattoos, but they're not. They're not biker tats one's a little alien cartoon character of mine. But I'll tell you something.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:14:49 PM

    Another life. Another life.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:14:51 PM

    I don't know.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre03:15:00 PM

    I have only one tattoo with which just written welcome to Egypt.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas203:15:04 PM

    Ohh my.

    jonathanicreas2
  • artist_jodi03:15:06 PM

    Really. Did you have to?

    artist_jodi
  • dastreamcatcher03:15:10 PM

    He's got a tramp stamp on it on his lower back that says whatever.

    dastreamcatcher
  • artist_jodi03:15:13 PM

    He doesn't have any tattoos. He's talking rubbish.

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:15:18 PM

    He's got, he's got, I I talked to this girl, she says. She's got a tattoo of a cell phone on her butt.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:15:25 PM

    I said, what? A cell phone on your butts? Yeah, I said. You must be a booty call.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:15:29 PM

    Yes, she was.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:15:30 PM

    Wow, that's a dad joke.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:15:31 PM

    Look at that joke.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:15:34 PM

    Dad joke.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:15:37 PM

    No bad. Yeah, it was a bad one.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:15:40 PM

    Until the chickpea went here.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:15:42 PM

    No, not not bad, father. Like a dad joke.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:15:44 PM

    Ohh, a dad joke. Yeah.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:15:46 PM

    Ohh yeah yeah, you know.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:15:48 PM

    Yes, I'm a dad. I recognise them. I'm gonna be in the car, so I might lose you for a second.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:15:51 PM

    Okay, have you heard the chickpea one stream?

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:15:53 PM

    How do I do to watch these?

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:15:55 PM

    Have you heard this, the chickpea?

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:15:56 PM

    Chickpea.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:16:00 PM

    What's the difference? Yeah, what's the difference between our garbanzo bean and a chickpea?

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:16:02 PM

    They both suck.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:16:05 PM

    I've never had a chickpea in my mouth.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:16:10 PM

    OK.

    dastreamcatcher
  • thevecentre03:16:21 PM

    Oh my God.

    thevecentre
  • logokoart03:16:29 PM

    What's on my God?

    logokoart
  • artist_jodi03:16:33 PM

    I think that was from the joke.

    artist_jodi
  • thevecentre03:16:34 PM

    The jokes.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:16:37 PM

    So I'll.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:16:40 PM

    Sorry, Lauren, go ahead.

    thevecentre
  • logokoart03:16:47 PM

    I was just going to say I'm gonna have to go now cause I've got to be up early in the morning.

    logokoart
  • logokoart03:16:49 PM

    Off to the hospital, so.

    logokoart
  • logokoart03:16:51 PM

    I showed you all goodnight.

    logokoart
  • artist_jodi03:16:55 PM

    Ohh, take care lovely. I hope it goes well tomorrow.

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:16:55 PM

    No, Lauren.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:16:55 PM

    Good night, Lauren.

    dastreamcatcher
  • logokoart03:16:58 PM

    Night, night, my dears.

    logokoart
  • thevecentre03:17:01 PM

    Was going through them.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:17:05 PM

    Good luck for tomorrow.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:17:15 PM

    So what I've been have been working on arc.

    thevecentre
  • ark945103:17:20 PM

    I'm working on some art now.

    ark9451
  • ark945103:17:27 PM

    You know the market messed up, so I'm thinking about dropping something on Polygon, but have it like real cheap.

    ark9451
  • ark945103:17:33 PM

    Because you know everybody, you know everybody broke. So you just, I just got a debt.

    ark9451
  • thevecentre03:17:39 PM

    Yeah, you have to adapt, my friend.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:17:49 PM

    Being flexible in a.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:17:53 PM

    Bad markets like this, you know it's a.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:17:57 PM

    It's the best.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:18:00 PM

    Thing is you can have.

    thevecentre
  • artist_jodi03:18:14 PM

    So what have you been working on, Jonathan?

    artist_jodi
  • jonathanicreas203:18:26 PM

    I've been working on getting my Instagram content engagement back up and it's it's getting there again now.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:18:40 PM

    I'm I'm around 30 to 40%. Anything over 20 is good. So I'm back. And I'm I'm still working on recovering a few accounts. I got my Facebook business account back.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:18:42 PM

    And there's only like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:18:45 PM

    I've got a Gmail account that I need to get back.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:19:00 PM

    Because that'll allow me to get some other ones, because with two two factor authentication is a wonderful thing. But if you lose the two factor authentication account that's supposed to go to.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:19:31 PM

    Then it's kind of hard to recover your account. So after my brother hacked, hacked me, I've been just like recording. I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm about probably like 85% now, 90% there's only a few and some of them I'm just like, I don't really care about anymore but but I've got a plan. See, I'm going to like once I got everything dialled in, I've been organising like strategising. I've got everything written down, I got all these notes and all these files and everything.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:19:45 PM

    And I'm just going to do like one huge like digital marketing attack using like all 200 some odd accounts that I have and all at one time. And I'm just like slowly like because I've got accounts for like different parts of the world.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:19:49 PM

    And like, I only engage with those like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:19:53 PM

    Those accounts are like for you know.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:19:55 PM

    Like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:20:24 PM

    Punjab, India, right. Or like one account is just for Singapore, the city of Singapore. And then like one account, you know what I mean? Like for Maryport, right. And then like all these areas all over the world. And so I'm going to do one, like, strategic attack every time. They're like, because there's like, I was trying to get it done before Black Friday, but I'm it doesn't like it's going to happen, but like every city has their own little Black Friday.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:20:55 PM

    And So what I'm going to do is I'm going to put out like merch, like T-shirts, sweatshirts, that kind of stuff with my designs on them. And like, I'm going to hit it like every time, like an area is getting ready to have like their own little Black Friday. I'm just going to do a coordinated attack marketing strategy, just a big marketing attack, bam, with all my accounts all at one time. And it's like, people are going to go, wow, like, what is this? I'm seeing it everywhere from, you know what

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:21:08 PM

    Just getting everything ready because I'm gonna come in to January, the first quarter. I'm coming in hot, you know, I'm coming in real hot, and I'm getting my iPad replaced because my brother, he cracked the screen on it. So what's up?

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:21:07 PM

    And hey, Jonathan.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:21:12 PM

    Hmm.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:21:23 PM

    Hey, quick questions, UH-2 quick questions. One, have you ever done this, anything like this before and what have been your results? And two, if you have, are you doing any kind of scripting or any kind of automation procedures and using VPNs and that kind of thing or how are you doing that?

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:21:29 PM

    Yeah, well, no, most of my. I don't like automating like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:21:59 PM

    Especially like because I'm like, I'm a one-on-one type of person, I like to do business with with people one-on-one. So like I don't like really automating my accounts because I don't know if like something were to happen or something like that. Like it would do something that I don't want it to do and then I'd have to fix that or hold myself accountable for that. So I would like to put myself in a position to where like, I'm making a decision. Yes, I do use VPN for a lot of things, but.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:22:30 PM

    And it depends. It depends really. And I run some small tests in this, like like with the strategy and it's, it's, it's like has 60 to 70%, almost 80% in some places, content engagement with the test that I ran. So the RI is going to be huge, you know, with this. And I don't know, I've thought about starting to build a community to see if anybody wants to invest because it would help if I had the hardware.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:22:38 PM

    That I need because I'm like I said, I built my own network using unified software, but I need like the Dream Pro.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:22:43 PM

    And the unified router would really help. It's like maybe.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:22:45 PM

    I don't know.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:22:46 PM

    That's exactly what I built my network on.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:22:49 PM

    Was unify nice.

    jonathanicreas2
  • dastreamcatcher03:22:56 PM

    I have a I have a dream studio, I have a Dream studio pro and I got the ubiquity 16 port and I've got three mesh network UFO.

    dastreamcatcher
  • jonathanicreas203:22:55 PM

    Ohh.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:23:05 PM

    Jelly I'm Jelly, yeah. So yeah, that's what, that's all. That's all I need. If I can, if I can get it by January.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:23:22 PM

    You know, then, and I offered like the Nfc's I listed last couple weeks ago. I don't really. They don't really say it because I'm like, I don't really want to make it known like, yeah, because I know once it goes, it's going to be huge and I don't worry, I'm not ready for that kind of.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:23:54 PM

    Like people wanting to get in, I'm just not ready for that yet. So I like, I'm not marketing it, I'm not advertising it. If somebody knows and they know if they want to get in and like be a holder, they automatically have access to the network. You know, I'm actually have access to my digital marketing strategies and advertisements and and my advertisement creation and all that kind of stuff. You know, like I'll do that for them. That's like they're freebies. The utility, you know, holding it an

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:24:04 PM

    The hardware that I need to make all this happen. So I mean it's the best thing in me, but you know, it's investing, it's it's it's paying for the hardware. Basically it's like.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:24:13 PM

    Yeah, but if I get, if I get it, if I get all squared away by January, I'm going to hit it hot.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:24:28 PM

    Each quarter like I got a plan for each quarter like throughout the year how I'm gonna approach 2013 23 and I've got like I'm already eligible and approved for advertisements and brand partnerships and.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:24:33 PM

    And everything on meta Twitter tick tock.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:24:35 PM

    LinkedIn.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:24:50 PM

    So I'm good, I'm good to go and I'll all the four of the main ones that I want Facebook, I'm good to go on all four of the main five of the main ones that I wanna use. I don't want to deal with Snapchat. I don't like Snapchat at all. I wish it wasn't even here.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:25:06 PM

    And then twitch. I don't. I don't know about Twitch. I thought about doing Twitch, but I'm just gonna stick with the ones that are heavy hitters and and use those and advertising so cheap and it really is. I could spend like 150 bucks a month on each each platform and.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:25:20 PM

    You know, I, I, I'm, I'm doing fine. Like the sales are going to come in big time and then I got like some rappers, some people entertainment industry that wants to do that, wants to.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:25:35 PM

    Do promos for me and stuff like that. So I'm going to get this down and you know, like partner up with some entertainment people and like, let's see what we can do together. Use their music, you know, use their music in some way.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:25:38 PM

    Yeah. And so.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:25:44 PM

    Yeah, it's like kind of little beneficial, you know, mutually beneficial to everybody involved, so.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:25:54 PM

    But I can't afford it on my disability. So I gotta, I gotta sell any TV or I gotta do something so I can get that hardware.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre03:26:06 PM

    Sounds really good there Jonathan. Sounds like you got your things together.

    thevecentre
  • jonathanicreas203:26:20 PM

    Yeah, well, you know, I'm a planner, I'm a planner, I'm an organiser and I'm a strategiser. That's what I do best and I'm just using those skills and and trying to use my weaknesses as strengths.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:26:49 PM

    And let other people do some of the things I'm you know, not that good at. You know like I said with the with the entertainment people doing promos and stuff like that for me like I can create the ads all day long. I'll create some sick ass ads and and like in that one, that .7 seconds that people spend scanning their phones or screens as they're scrolling ohh like my ads will catch your eye and you'll stop and get guaranteed.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:27:27 PM

    And if they do the promo then, then they'll, you know, they're happy doing. They love doing that. Influencers, stuff like that. That's all they do, you know. And then there's what does CPM cost per mile or whatever. It's relatively inexpensive. You know, it's like there's pretty much, I weeded out and this last year I weeded out all the ones that have used bots for all their stuff because I don't want to promote into a bunch of robots. What good is that going to do? I found the ones that are, yo

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:27:37 PM

    Have been, you know, had continuous organic growth. And I'm using those guys as, you know, my promo team. And they're all heavy hitters too. They're all, like verified.

    jonathanicreas2
  • jonathanicreas203:27:41 PM

    Huge. You know, they have some huge accounts, so.

    jonathanicreas2
  • thevecentre03:27:47 PM

    Hey Jalal, how are you?

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:27:48 PM

    Welcome.

    thevecentre
  • jakman121203:27:50 PM

    Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello.

    jakman1212
  • thevecentre03:27:52 PM

    How are you?

    thevecentre
  • jakman121203:27:59 PM

    Plus three. Had a Geordie. Hello everyone hi Jonathan, hi, said. Hi everyone.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:28:01 PM

    I miss you guys.

    jakman1212
  • thevecentre03:28:06 PM

    Miss you too, man. How are you? How are you been doing?

    thevecentre
  • jakman121203:28:12 PM

    I'm good. I'm in India for medical treatment for one month, for one month.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:28:19 PM

    Going back to Yemen. I'm going back to Yemen, actually, after two weeks.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:28:23 PM

    I miss you guys. I have been busy, you know?

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:28:28 PM

    Doing all these kind of stuff, you know, medical.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:28:31 PM

    But you know.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:28:34 PM

    When I go back to Yemen.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:28:37 PM

    Internet is fucked up.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:28:41 PM

    What is the subject of today's space?

    jakman1212
  • thevecentre03:28:46 PM

    Ohh with three the future of NFT and.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:28:49 PM

    That will be general subjects kind of thing.

    thevecentre
  • jakman121203:28:56 PM

    Future, the future, the future of Web three and any of these spaces.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:28:59 PM

    Do you think?

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:29:06 PM

    We will catch that because we are trying to implement something new.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:29:10 PM

    Example if I am doing these things you know.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:29:14 PM

    For the sake of myself.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:29:18 PM

    Do I am doing this for?

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:29:33 PM

    Alright, well, I get what I'm trying to implement in the near future. Or I'm doing for my kids, or I'm doing it for my the kids of my kids, you know, for my.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:29:35 PM

    Grandchildren.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:29:43 PM

    You know, because I have been in so many spaces and I have, they are talking about the same subject.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:29:45 PM

    But you know.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:29:52 PM

    They are talking about the spaces, but in the far future.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:29:56 PM

    I am not. I don't have that patient.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:30:03 PM

    Patients to, you know, to wait for them that long time.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:30:08 PM

    Twitter spaces and.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:30:16 PM

    I don't know. I am suspicious about these things because I don't have that patience.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:30:34 PM

    Told to wait that long time because, you know, I'm in India and when I go to the hospital, you know, I I don't have that much 10 minutes to wait for for the doctors or for the nurses to call me.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:30:38 PM

    I am nervous most of the time.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:30:45 PM

    That is similar to being in two different spaces.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:30:54 PM

    Ohh, and to keep telling me because of NFD NT talk understanding swell 3.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:31:09 PM

    You will get it into 2023-2024, 2025. Maybe I will be dead by that time. By the dead.

    jakman1212
  • thevecentre03:31:13 PM

    So what's the other option tonight?

    thevecentre
  • jakman121203:31:18 PM

    Can can it be fast?

    jakman1212
  • thevecentre03:31:28 PM

    My friend, all these things are tools for us, and the way we use it is the way it gets.

    thevecentre
  • jakman121203:31:31 PM

    Is there a way? Is there a way to be accelerated?

    jakman1212
  • thevecentre03:31:37 PM

    You have to be active in all social media to promote yourself and.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:31:40 PM

    It's it's accelerated. It's it.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre03:31:55 PM

    Can't control it because acceleration. That means mass adoption of all the people, and that will take time. So you can't accelerate it. No, you can't. But you can do as much as you can to make it faster for you.

    thevecentre
  • jakman121203:32:03 PM

    If you don't have that much time measuring, for example, you are going to.

    jakman1212
  • jakman121203:32:06 PM

    Die after one year.

    jakman1212
  • thevecentre