Oh, there we are. My mic was off look that's like a rookie move. Good evening, good evening everyone.

Yo-yo how you doing?

I look good to be. How are you today?

You're amazing, doing amazing. It's been a it's been a wild Wednesday, but it's all good. We're here.

I know it's a lot going on.

Like getting in myself and just trying to get myself together and get everything put together and I'm like OK like OK I can breathe for a second and like get into this so I'm excited.

Little River, good evening, good evening. We have black teeth project in the house as well. Welcome y'all. It's so thrilled to see like my name up there as the host. Like this is kind of wild.

But I am excited if you would take a moment to tweet out the space and see if we can get some some extra eyes and extra ears and here as well, we've got a great little conversation with Brian on GB. I'm excited to talk to him for a second. He said my first inaugural special guest for the Commons. So welcome everyone. Take a moment and tweet it out, and then we're going to get started shortly.

Must go.

I know that we got a little bit of a bit of time with you today, but he's probably going to jump in shortly. But I'm also tweeting it as you'll say on the back channels, so once I jump in and get that started, we're we'll jump on in.

I like it. I can dig it. I'm ready. I don't know what you gonna throw my way but hey, let's go let's do it.

I'm excited.

Well, you know we've had all types of all types of conversations all the time, so it's it's it's par for the course, but.

I've got I had to take a moment and kind of center myself and get everything kind of together because as much as I want this to be like a nice little structure space, I still refer to be a little bit of a king like we still want to have some fun with it, but I had still had a little nerves and so I went and I'm a crystal girl, so I went and got my amethyst and charged it up all day so I can get my good communication going and feel comfortable and confident on everything. So I'm ready to go. I'm

If you are welcome, everyone as well, we got Kang in here. I see I see through.

Hey miss Rica. Thanks for staying up late with us today. Glad you could come through for a bit.

But yeah, so again, welcome to the comments. This is a part of Onaji. You are onaji university are kind of onaji university. I guess you can kind of say programming. We have our own universities that are also on Saturdays and shout out to on GB. Those are educational spaces that he hosts and we talk about a marriage of topics and we also have matcha and introverts.

Bitches with cane hustle. Right there in America that happens on I believe Saturdays from time to time. Just a nice little relaxed. She'll space where come and talk about topics relating to we have three and mental health as well where you can hang or kind of our two specialists when it comes to keeping ourselves in touch with ourselves. Our you know our inner selves as we kind of move through the web through streets so.

Ohhh.

Uh, they came in today and welcome to them and make sure you check out their spaces as well. Let's just go ahead and jump right in. I'm sure. Welcome to the comments.

I think I think I lost.

Oh, it's probably just me.

You ready to jump in B?

Yeah, usually I was bragging. I think for a little bit if everybody else heard you, I didn't hear you.

I had an amazing excellent intro.

I'm still happy and winning winning when he's ready to jump in and get started, but.

Oh Nagb is the is the co-founder of Onaji University which is I am the Dean of communications for so I am on staff and a few other of our listeners here today and.

B is just a big just number one I would think like, oh, I would describe him as a ball of positive energy that.

A ball of positive energy that.

Is in all four places at once and willing to help anybody with whatever they need help with.

Some one of the I always like to share something interesting that I remember and one of the first few times I spoke to be just, you know, in the in the Twitter streets my name is Brian. His name is Brian and we were making jokes that.

Can y'all hear me?

Would be right for a little bit, am I?

OK, you got me or no.

There you go, I can hear you.

Ohh man I'm starting to.

Can you talk about emoji if you can hear me?

OK, I got OK cool cool cool cool cool cool be are you there?

I'm here, I'm here.

Am I not here?

There you are. We can hear you.

You keep gotta go in in and out.

Sometimes you come out there, you are there, you are. You're back now.

Peru ohh man OK, what's up what's up? OK, oh man, I'm in the same spot. I don't know what's up.

Look, sometimes it's like that we do have river in the space. You know, sometimes she'd be bringing that that good flow of energy just have that energy flowing wherever she's going. She might have brought something in with us.

OK, hold on just one second. I'm gonna double check can you talk a bit emoji if you can hear me please.

OK, I got some emojis so OK can you hear me be? Are you still with us?

Yeah man, I'm here.

OK, all right. So I think they were good. I think that we are good.

Alright, awesome technical difficulties. Thanks y'all for being flexible with me. It's my first time.

But yeah.

We got this, we got this.

Like I was saying, one of the first few times I I spoke to me and heard his voice over. You know, over Twitter. We were making fun of each other because he spells his name with an I and I spell my name with a Y and I am very adamant that with the Y it's the correct way to spell it.

You know that's not even right.

I before why baby let's go.

But look, but listen to this. Listen to her what BD B turned around and shake his lips to call himself the original. And I was a derivative. Can you believe that?

No, Sir.

Hey.

Jokes on jokes.

But thanks again for being my first inaugural Gatsby. I appreciate it. Let's just kind of jump right in.

Tell us well, first of all, just just tell me why you chose the founder NFT project. I've been wanting to ask you some of these questions for like forever and I'm glad I've got the opportunity. So I would just love to understand to hear in your words why you chose to to start a project.

Absolutely, absolutely well. You know I've been doing. I've been doing art for a long time. I've always been like, you know, a creative person been making music and making like visual arts all all different kind of type of things. Since you know I was a little kid.

I really like love tech too, you know, I love math. I love tech so I'm just super nerd like that. But I really saw this space because.

You know, I've been. I've been in touch with crypto since it came out, so like 2009 I was hit. You know, I didn't act on it like an idiot, but that's OK. But as soon as you know and if these came out and I saw you know there's this merger, this intersection between art and tech and math. And I was like Oh yeah, like this is a no brainer I have to so you know, like me being like a like, you know making stuff. I have like three or four other ideas for projects at the time. But this is one that I r

Just because I was not super happy with what was out there, what was available for people like me that people that looked like me, you know, I was like I love PIP's right. We love profile pictures and things like that. You know, probably dating myself.

I'm on, I'm about to be 38 in December, so you know I grown up with the PDF's. The avatars and stuff like that. So I was like, oh this is super tight like avatars that you know have some value, cost a little money. Let's go but I didn't see anything I really wanted to buy. You know what I mean. So I was like, well, let's just make something that you know I can be proud of. People like me can be proud of and we're going to get a profit. So that's how this started.

I love that and I and it for it seems like it came about it at such a such a great time where I think where people were starting to to look for for.

Projects in PDF's that reflect themselves. We all know that that's what what we're always looking for, and so do you feel like.

That do you feel like starting the project that you came about it at at the right time?

You know, I feel like I feel like our project and donaji. I think anytime is the right time you feel me. I mean I feel like if it was it a couple years or if it's in three years or if it was 2017 eighteen, I think would have been perfect timing. I think it's just something that the landscape needed. I think it's something that we needed and I think you know people coming into the project and seeing the project. They're they're feeling the same way. Like all this was needed. This is cool to see.

There's that the adage out there that you know people don't know what they want until you show them. This is kind of one of those things where you kind of had to show. People like this is what a project can do.

Wow, I I. I like that. I think that I've probably heard that saying as well, but.

It does very much seem to ring true as.

You establish things, people it you know people will start to see it and be attracted to it and then it will start to grow. And I very much feel like that's what's happened with Onaji as well. And I know that you're a big proponent of like don't wait, just go for it like just jump right in.

And as you jump right in and you as you start to learn from that.

It you know people will see that and they will be attracted to that and they'll flock to it and it'll it'll grow. And as it does, you'll continue to learn more and become better and better and better. Like where did you? What does that kind of tenant in in in your brain come from? What type of experiences have you had to just kind of? Have you understand? Like look it's anytime it's going to be a good time? Why not now jump right in?

You know what I would be? I would be completely honest. That's like a new thing for me personally too. I had to grow into that, you know, I always was the type of person who makes stuff and hoard it. Don't put it out like try to be the perfectionist and things like that. A really cool part about you know this space is that it is super collaborative, right? And for me, having the collaboration that I did, it kind of puts some deadlines and stuff on me and those deadlines really forced me to conti

Glad you found it. Finally finished something I was like. That's cool. You know it's all good I, you know joking, I'm joking out but yeah, I had to learn and and you know kind of grow in that as well too. Part of it's probably just me. You know, getting old feeling the age kids getting old I'm like oh I got to do something.

I feel like that's also a side effect of being in Web 3 as well. I feel like if you don't keep it moving, you're going to get left behind.

Backspace moves super quick.

And so you you know to to even keep the eyes and and to keep the relevancy of whatever you gotta continue to kind of keep it pushing and and finish it, or at least get it. Get it to a point where you can put it in in front of eyes and ears. So like you said, they can see it and it can grow. So that's probably a side effect of just being in the space as well, because I'm I'm somewhat the same way like.

I like to have my hands on a lot of different things, but.

Knowing that, hey, if I want this to continue going or I want to continue to grow in Web three, I've got to continue to do more things like put myself out there and meet new people and be a spaces host and all types of things like that. So I I from my perspective, I think it that's definitely a side effect of being in web three also.

For sure for sure, you know, I kind of like that. I like how fast the space moves too, and that's that's kind of like my pace. I I dig it so you can keep it moving. Keep pushing.

What has been the most difficult part of running a project?

All the beginning, so I'm not a coder by any stretch, and that first and that first, like uploading the contract, you know coding the contract, starting to put it on chain, starting to put it on, you know, just testing it on remix and different things like that. That coding part was super hard and dealing with something that's like potentially worth some money like it was like Dang am I doing this right? I was like at the end of the back on I'm like Oh my God, I hope I don't get hacked. I hope I

I spent like three weeks putting together and stuff like it was. It was nerve wrecking man and.

No, I don't know. It was like that was a new experience for me personally. Like I don't think I've ever been that stressed out about anything in my life. Like ever. Was that those couple weeks before it was ready. Oh man, it was. It was rough. It was rough but, but I think you know there's a lot of coding and stuff and developers in the space that that's their natural element for me. It wasn't my natural element, you know. I had, you know, the art side is my is my natural element. So I had super

And just putting that part together. But when I when it came to that coding, oh man, I was hurting, I was hurting but I pushed through it.

I like, I like to hear you speak a lot of times about the traits, what, what, I and I asked everybody this when I always talk to them, whether it's just casually or or. When I try to speak over spaces, what's your favorite trait? Which one is your favorite?

Oh, you know me, my color palette is like the, you know the black and white monochrome. So I really like any of the black and white trades. I love the.

The the puppy hairstyle, the one that's bipod gallery, has in his P right there. That's my favorite hairstyle because that's the one that like matches me the most.

What I see.

The rings the ring background was a fun one. Just because you know that was a little Easter egg that I that I.

I'm sorry all those.

You gotta love him. Ohh but the rings was a cool little Easter egg that you know I kind of hid from a bunch of people until like the very end and they're like oh stop oh stop OK, I get it but so that was fun. I don't know what's your what's your favorite boss? What's your fave?

Umm, I feel I've got. I feel like I have too many.

I definitely do like the rings as well. That's why I use it as my own personal PFP. The rings I enjoy I enjoy a lot of the jewelry as well. I like the.

Yeah.

Yes.

My favorite, actually. My favorite Joe is probably Pepper's earring and I don't have one yet, and I'm like gunning. I've gotta get me a one of the Peppers earrings because Papa is my is one of my favorite characters from the from the IP so that one and probably the pearls are probably two of my.

Yes, yes.

Yes, you know, Peppers, Peppers, hearing and I I I buried that one so you know we'll see at the end of this how many of those pop up, but yeah, I buried that one for sure on purpose. You know what? I'll be my favorite trade. You know my favorite token is Vance, you know Vance Vance, the one in the beginning that I, I teased, that's the Super suit I brought out as the owners. Yes yes, so I like I like that the do rag right? And it's even been pointed out to us that not a lot of collections out th

Have the durags so it's it's been pretty cool. A lot of people are like, oh, you know now he's one of the first ones with the do rag. Like of course of course they gotta do rag. Come on now.

Given that so many of the traits, even if you take a look at the names and the traits themselves are just so black.

Like what?

It is.

It is.

In a in just a frank way of asking, like how does it feel to just be the founder of a black project like it's black or not just black? I mean we we definitely have allies and we're open to it and we love our diversity and equity and inclusion. And it's something in our education and it's something that we do well. But looking at them, traits like it's us.

It is it is, you know, we did that on purpose. You know, I I specifically put a sprinkle. The bit of us in there, but you know, that was natural. That was natural for me, right? I didn't have to force any of that like I was just thinking, oh what's something I put in there like when I was thinking of the names? Oh yeah, yeah, let's you know, let's do this let's do that so you know that was just natural so.

I also you know we put that's one of the reasons why we put it on East is because you know Ethan is kind of, you know the the front runner in this space, so to speak. The more popular chain. I really wanted it to be like this is what a black project can be in this space. You know, I really.

Fully embrace that representation, right? Representation matters on.

Step of the way right? So I really want. I really want people to see oh Naji and be like oh I could put together a project like this.

And it would be cool, and it will be embraced by people you know, not just black and brown people, but even like allies out there, definitely so that you know it's been fun. It's been fun. It's been an amazing journey. I'm having a blast, you know.

So yeah, I hope this. I hope to see many more people following on that. Just footsteps and you know, I don't know make it 2030 K eventually. You know, I think the 10K's in a couple of years are going to be like the baby project, so they're going to be the the antiques, right? We're going to have 100,000 K and stuff like that, but I want to see. I want to see more black projects out there.

You know, because there's plenty of non black projects out there and I can't wait to be like, oh like I saw Maggie and I made this. I saw Naji and I made this so that's that's what I want to see in the future.

That's what we love to see. That's that's what we love to see it just that that front runner that trailblazer that is starting to pay the avenue for the people who come behind to have have an easier Rd. So that's that's what we love to see and we you know, we thank you for for establishing a project that's like that and continuing to be that type of person that is offering the information that they know to others so that they can do the same thing.

Absolutely, that's you know that's what we set out to do. That's what that's what I hopped in the space for. So you know, long term I'll tell you guys. Now let me look at this stage. Let me look in this space for long term alpha. What I really want to do is I really am big on the kids, right? I'm I'm at schools all the time. You know, educating kids, you know, just I'm big on representation in in the school you think I'm big on representation in the FT space? No, no you should see me at the scho

There's black dads out here. We are here so I really want to see the kids take off in this space, right? And one of my plans was that.

Have in the promo bucket right? We got some some tokens that are like kids ones like bald ones, bald face, you know they look like little kids and I think it would be super cool. Like if Onaji hits I don't know like even like a one eighth floor or something or a half 8th floor whatever. Something that is you know bigger than mint price. Right now that's you know clear upward trajectory, right? I really want to like see how I can get some of the tokens. Some of the characters into schools or into

And children's publisher book or something like that? Like some you know some to write them in the stories and things like that. And then as those tokens go up in value, so does that IP. That's you know, in the in the children's books like that's one of my long stretch goals that I thought about from the jump.

You are knocking it out, like literally knocking it out. These are the things that I was going to ask and but I wanna take a moment and reset the room. I wanna welcome everyone to the comments. This is onaji you presents the comments with BOSS 2.0, that's me. This is our opportunity to not only highlight our the great things our own Nazi fam is doing, but also to have a just a little bit more of a of a discussion.

Kind of feel space. Get to know one another and just talk about our own personal wealth. 3 journeys for not only us in web three, but also for the holders and our own. Nancy fam. So I want to welcome everyone. I see we have some some new faces who have joined since then. We are currently speaking to the co-founder of Ownage University, Onaji B Brian. He's our co-founder and like I was saying you you just not getting these these questions out because I was going to ask.

Looking into the future what what, what, what, what else would you like to see on Nancy become?

Yes, yes, so that that's definitely that you know that came before the like the university, right? And the education part. But now since we are headstrong into that education part, which was which was going back, that's good for me to see because I'm one of the people that I'm like. No, no, no. There's tons of people that know about this space and in reality, Nah, Nah, I live in my own little world, my own little nerdy world. And I had to, you know, come to terms with that, but.

I just, you know, I thought that was a perfect.

A perfect point for us to be like? OK, let's let's educate people on this because I don't. I mean, I see this. I know how lucrative this space is, right? We all have seen how lucrative this space can be.

But I know how lucrative this space can be for black and brown creators years from now, like years years from now, right? Not just like right now. Flip a quick bag. You know, I'm talking about establishing IP that could be the next Mickey Mouse or something like that, right? That's definitely possible in the space we have the tools now that can basically keep track of a creations origin, and that's perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect. So we need to take advantage of that. And this university vibe

Or out of, you know, if I could drop this, but some more alpha is I got. I got some some screenshots in my inbox and I was like I almost tossed the phone. I was like what go ahead, go ahead. So for those who don't know we have been working in like the spatial gallery, the spatial IO gallery. I really like spatial. It's probably you know, just because that was the first one I hopped into and I was like, OK, I like this. This is cool. I can build in here, built, built up. Our test gallery had our

But since ever since then I was like, oh, it'd be super dope to have like a headquarters, right? And this is before we were doing like the university. So now I'm like, OK, well, we could just build like in university. We could be build a metaverse university. We can put it in Mona and spatial wherever whatever pops up. You just need that obj file and we're good to go so you know, I really, that's one of my big long term goals is to have that university built and have us be able to walk around in

Planned, I haven't even dropped it on you, but I'm I'm out here. Still it out but I see how you doing box.

Look like this is big time alpha we we haven't even heard some of this stuff in the Deans chat, so I'm like.

Shook like what?

Yes, yes.

Bee came through with the good stuff. You better thank you so much for sharing all that that's so very exciting to hear. Kind of where you want to move into in the future.

Not bad.

Wow, just literally mind blown I I don't have a whole lot of words like you just came in the wrong handling things. OK, I see it.

My fault.

No, it's not a bad thing at all. It's not a bad thing at all. Before we kind of keep keep going, are we OK with our time? I know that you kind of have some things to do, so I want to make sure we're respectful of your time today are you. Are you still good?

Absolutely, absolutely. Let's yeah, we get like another 15 we're in there. Let's go, we rocking.

OK, awesome, awesome. Before I open the floor to to any questions or comments you might have for oh not you be one of the last things I want to ask you. I know you are so very much.

A proponent of learning blockchain technology and what this technology can mean to black and brown people. What? What is something important that that you think an upcoming founder of a project needs to know? Coming into the NT space.

Definitely definitely.

Hold your own smart contract. Just do your own smart contract. It's super easy. Now we have the we have the tools where you don't even have the code. If you think like I'm jealous but just own your own smart contract. If you're making anything in this space and you know it's a, it's a bigger project than you know you anticipate. Like you know, there's some artists out there. They put out like one or two pieces, three pieces, 10 pieces just to test the waters cool. But if you get like a stride in

Our contract right? Things like manifold things like third web. There's plenty of tools out there and they they're new. Tools are popping up every day, right? Just just as fast as the space is innovating. Those schools are coming out. So just on your own smart contract, just learn the tech behind that and why that's important. And if you don't know, you can holler at me and I'll tell you, right? So, Umm yeah, smart contracts, smart contracts, smart contracts, especially if you're creating a spac

That's some, that's some big time information. We've definitely heard that a few different times from you. As far as learning learning the technology, and making sure that smart contract gets is is the key. As we know, Web three is all about ownership, and I definitely want to ask about that. Probably a little bit later on in the in the discussion that I would like to kind of post to all the listeners, but.

That that ownership being able to have that that Direct Line of the blockchain that says this is mine. Here is the backup that that the receipt, as you say, I've learned that from you that the blockchain is is or is a receipt. This is the receipt that that this is mine and I and I own this and that is the key to not only getting longevity in web three, but also sometimes even financial security depending on on your project and depending on how you choose to use the.

Product that we have at our disposal.

100% absolutely.

Invaluable.

I want to take a moment to open the floor so if you've got some questions for 09 GB, he's got a few extra minutes. Thank you for allowing us that extra time, but if there's anything that any of our listeners would like to pop up and ask any questions, even even comments, we would love to hear from you. We all know and not just be a super open to you know, to helping out and to and to speaking about omaji and about the blockchain. So if you've got something you would like to contribute, go ahead

As far as kind of the.

The market side of of having a project we've seen.

Oh no, I just start in the bull run and now we're in the bear kind of market right now. How how is it as a founder?

Weathering the volatility of of the market from that side.

Yeah definitely, definitely, definitely. You know I got to. I got flamed into one space because I was like bullet bear. I don't care but still they got on my head with a little bit, but I meant to say that to say that you know, if you're a creator in the space, just keep creating. Just keep going, right. The market is going to go up and down. I think you know I. I kind of dabbled a little bit in the stock market. You know, a couple years a couple years back, right? And that's going to continue t

So once you just.

Come to terms with, you know this crypto market is going to keep going up and down that volatility that volatility is all over the place. You just have to. You just have to realize that and just you know put it, you know put it, put it to the back of your mind. Don't focus too much on it unless you know you are trying to make money as a day trader and things like that. And that's super important, but if not you're greater in this space. Just focus on your creations right? And just you know, put

One of the kind of.

Backwards ideologies in this space, though from a project standpoint, is that a lot of projects were leaving all the funds in the contract right until.

You know, until it was meant to out or until whatever, whatever, whatever.

And then, like a lot of people were watching, just, you know, those contract funds just dropping just from the from the top of the bull all the way down to the bed. They're just watching it drop. So I mean, that's, you know, that's not. That's not that's not healthy one right? Just watching money evaporate because nobody wants to touch it that's not a good way to move so you know, I yeah there's a couple of different things you know that I would I would tell founders.

But the space is heavily reliant on marketing, marketing, marketing, right? You know, my approach is the word of mouth is going to go like. Just put out a genuine project and it's going to go. But you kind of you kind of got to put yourself out there, especially if you're a one of one artist, right? You got to go out and see these rooms and put yourself out there. You got to make yourself known. You know I was in the beginning from January. I was out there showing in spaces all day long. But I n

Everybody's gonna want to go out and do that but you gotta put yourself out there so.

That that that's that's some great advice. I I myself have seen you in spaces left and right and center shielding in in spaces, creating community, creating relationships. It's definitely something that I admire and something I try to do as as well because it it is very much about the marketing and the relationships that we.

Established to not only continue to grow our own personal network, but also the network of our projects, I see King has his hand raised. We're going to 1st go over to Cypher. He came up to the stage first, so let's give a quick moment. Good evening cipher, what do you have to speak for on GB today?

Well, first, I just like to introduce myself. My name's Alex Alexander just cypher.

I definitely wanted to say when I.

I got into web three like. I guess I would say fall last year like around August.

Believe it or not, I I was. I've always wanted to code. I've always wanted to be a developer, but the things that kept having a computer that kept crashing a lot of people not don't understand like there's a barrier of entry.

Into this space.

And.

The one thing that I've I've absolutely been concerned with I was gifted a laptop. I was gifted the money to be able to to be able to use free code camp, and then I found out about developer doubt because I actually just. I did my research, I was like wow. What can I do with the little bit of extra money that I have? What's the theory and what's Bitcoin? I had really been into it since like 2017 just on free Bitcoin, which which is kind of like a nice project that they're they're rooted in being

The idea was how can we actually lower the barrier of entry if not actually introduce people through a program or grant based situation where they can have us? I'm going to say it's a a safe space like anaji you where they can come in, learn the code, have access, do I mean like not? I'm not going to say go hard like you know boys and boys and Girls Club.

Type stuff because you know, I'm I'm. I come from a a kind of like service background not having been in the service but like community service oriented and I believe heavily in community service. I believe heavily that if you don't actually have programs or or initiatives available in in communities that it doesn't get out there. And if it doesn't get out there then how are you going to be able to have enough of a representation of the people that are going to be there to do the work and and th

Careful with 100, it can go from 100 to 1000. Go from 1000 to 10,000 and go to a million. You know what I'm saying and that's how you change something. You have to have people who are knowledgeable and people who are willing to spend the time and that big thing is like why I really looked at analogy. I was in developer that I've heard about people's experiences with developing and especially you know, aidos bipod experiences where you go in you and they they basically just dish you to the point

Or they make an uncomfortable environment to the point to where you don't feel like it's it's. It's the proper thing for you and it's not inviting. And I believe that that that part of just the culture and the barrier of entry is a big part of what I would want to see. Or just ask. How is this project going to address that type of issue?

I'm not trying to say, you know, go beat the streets and everything like that, but like is there any way that you know you could have like a partnership with like universities, like literally universities, not like a university initiative and not like going there and go to administrations and be like yo you need to do this but kind of get to the point to where it's like oh why don't we just do like a university drive with freshman like have you ever heard of this? Here's a token if you've ever h

Hey look this is these are things that are available for you in business and you know, here's a place where you can get education and then you can also build a network you know kind of like. Like you said, it's marketing. And I mean I'm I went to Howard University so I I kind of like believe and the fact that it almost is is like you know the talented 10th.

It's it's not our fault.

But it's our responsibility.

You know, and I don't I. I purely don't want to preach the talented 10 bullshit because it is bullshit everybody has access to information these days. But what it is is that how are we going to organize ourselves in order to get the information out there and make sure it's available to people who are truly interested? So I wanted to ask you how's that initiative going to start here? Because it's a very unique, you know we're going to be literally if if if that's the the motto.

Web three first HBCU then just like any other HBCU, where's the initiative to get into the community? Because the one thing is that I've I've been HBC US and you always get cut off from the community due to education and because it's like there's a there's a demographic difference and there and you know there's there's a virtual wall we need to get rid of that in this day and age, especially with web three and being able to get rid of that virtual wall. I think that's this is how we do it, and t

Yeah.

Not now you're good. I like that. Yes, I love all of that. Thank you. Thank you for coming up and sharing. But to all your points yes 100% yes yes, we already in in talks in the back channels about partnering with other HBC US other universities. Yes Sir, absolutely we that's already in the works, you know. And as far as like you know, the coding initiatives. That was one of my biggest things coming into space as well. You know, I'll listen to these spaces where people are like.

Oh well, you know the information's out there. You know Youtubers out there, free coding workshops, and all the different channels and stuff. I'm like, yeah, but if people don't have a computer, if people don't have the Internet like you know what I'm saying, like how the threats like we? Yes, yes, we already know that there is an education gap, especially in this tech space, right? I've I've gone through multiple schools where the gifted and talented program was handpicked. And you know what I

They're the ones in the computer lab all the time. You know getting that extra 1 on one extra curricular activities and stuff like that. So we yes, absolutely. You know you brought up the boys and Girls Club. You brought up other initiatives. I think yes, I'm going to take it. I haven't really been focused on that too much, but I'm going.

See what we can do about partnering. You know we we are flirting with a lot of partnerships, so I would definitely love you. Know like a boys and Girls Club like a girls who code things like that where even if we can figure out how kids can get involved with this with like Chromebooks and stuff like that or you know something like that. Oh yes I'm all for that. I'm all for that in the future. I see kids being able to or people in general. Being able to do all this from their phones to be honest.

But as far as like minting your creations that you made as a kid, you know your dance moves, your your tik T.O.K comedy sketch whatever. Just minting that. I think we'll be we'll be able to do that on our phones and I'm going to, you know, I'm going to see how far I can get on my phone.

Just just using those tools, I'm gonna see if I can use like third web and manifold and just do like something straight from my phone. So I'll you know, I'll I'll tap into that and see see if I can do that. But as far as like.

Getting laptops to kids? Heck yeah, let's go. Let's go, baby.

Before we lose you be, we've got one more question from our Dean Cain. He wants to know what advice you might have for networking. He recognizes that networking is so important in the space and there might not be enough emphasis put on it. What? What kind of advice might you be able to give our listeners about? How important networking is and how to do it effectively to help your project grow?

100%.

So networking I I see these IRL events going crazy right? I I had the opportunity to talk at the web. Three pulled up, shout out to Web 3 pull up and we'll conomy, right? So just when you go to these inner inner life events, right? Even if you go to these Expos, these these cons and things like that. Make sure you're not just going there and being silent and being a wallflower. No, no, no like really get out there, shake people's hands the OK so I went.

This past, well I think 2 weeks whatever but the NCX verse I was up there and one of the cool things that I was really trying to do was really going up to boost and be like hey what you got going on like I'm.

You know I'm hitting initiative myself just to go out and find out these Blues are doing because a lot of these people behind these boots and behind this tech. You know, introverts like like all of us are. You know what I'm saying. Like we, we just want to be creating our own desk at our own house or something like that. We don't really want to be out talking to people so if you just make that first move and go out and these are real events and make sure that you're talking to people, especially

They'll tell you after they're done, they'll ask you. They'll be like, hey, So what do you do? Like? Are you in this space? What do you know? And then you get to tell about what you're doing, so I mean, it's a it's a cool little introduction, you know, just just to go out there and.

Just talk to people I know. It's hard. You know it sounds so easy, but I know it's not because I, you know, at this last conference I had to work myself up too. I was there for two days. The first day I was kind of wallflower. A little bit. I was like I was like no. The second day I go out there. It was a Sunday. I was like no, I have to talk to people, stop being scary. What are you doing? Let's go and I actually did that and I made a lot of connections. The other part to to Chang's.

To change question Child King by the way, either man but.

Hoping those hoping those DM's you know we got a bad connotation about, you, know, having the DMS, and you know different people use not using that the correct the correct way, but if you are, you know, being genuine and open and honest with people and bringing value to somebody like hey I love what you're doing. I love your project, I'm doing such and such and such. I think it would be cool if we collaborate on something or I think it would be cool if you took a look at what I'm building.

Because I think you know we have like minded goals and missions in this space. So definitely don't be afraid to to reach out to people, especially in these social networks. The worst that can they can be the worst thing they can do is just leave you all red cool no problem whatever, keep pushing, but I've got a lot of I've got a lot of connections in the space just by jumping out on the ledge and being like yo.

Business I like. What you're doing. Can we do something in the future? Simple as that.

That's what I love to hear. I think that that's that's very much a all that is a good resource that that we can use to #1 put ourselves out there and #2 just just go literally there. There. There's so much that can be done by just extending, you know, a simple GM or extending a hand and saying hi and introducing yourself to see what what people are doing to checking in one more time before we move on to Cyprus. And do are we. Do we have a couple more minutes with you?

Yup, Yup, I'm gonna probably be walking out the door. So if I get rugged we alright though. But absolutely let's go. I'd love it.

No worries, no worries. Alright Cypher, we see your hand. What is your question?

Well, just from the standpoint of being able to work with people having initiative, networking in the web 3 space.

I think that's great when it when it comes down to, you know, I literally I just listened to Damon Dash other day, say oxygen world. You know the web 2 space.

Like how how are we gonna get to people in the oxygen world? You know, like when you have people who who want to give us.

Help.

But really don't know exactly how to approach.

The Web 3 space because a lot of people making scanning you know a lot of people think Oh no, it's not. It's not real when you start having the SEC jumping and stuff and start trying to say that you can't have mixers, you know the the way they like ban, tornado. You know what's real. They understand the impact that this that this has. They understand the amount of millionaires that have that have come about the space between 2015 to 2022. You know what I'm saying? So it's a very real thing.

Where are we gonna find the people who are going to champion our cause?

For being able to get kids and colleges.

And not have to deal with the the scammy talk. I really think that there's an opportunity to talk with people like Damon Dash, like Luke.

Like Damon John.

You know what I'm saying? Like those are. Those are the type of networking connections where they're looking for being able to put technology like you said in boys and girls clothes have. Have you tried to network with them? Considering that you're the person who would be able to communicate?

Your idea and and from a founder perspective speaking to other founders.

Explaining to them exactly what you're going to do, have you written up any prospectus or any type of like you know road map for them and oxygen world saying, hey look, we need this help.

How you going to give us that help and do you need people to actually champion that in different places? I'm in DC.

You know who's in New York?

Who's in Florida? Who's in Atlanta?

You know you you don't need it. You don't need a street team. All you need is just one one. Unified idea of what you can give to everybody so you can get everybody on the same page. And they're like, Oh no, they're organized. Let's help them out.

And I really believe that if that happens then the rest of it's going to be a lot easier, because then we can. We can deal with the Community aspect of building and not have to go like truly corporate. They already have corporate. You know that that's what is needed so that the the the funds that go into the project are reinvested back into the project. You know, that's the way you make money and that's the way you leverage what's going on right now with three, because like you said, there's the

Hey.

Fishing, so being able to go out and get help with you know especially from people who are willing to do the initiative, who have the what. You could say liquidity or extra money and can write it off. I think that's that's what we should really do and I'm willing to. Actually, you know, help out with that if that's where you want to go with it. Just just saying.

Yep.

Yes, they absolutely will definitely be in touch, you know. Yeah, I have been trying. You know, I have been putting ourselves out there.

Yeah, a lot of you know a lot of cool people in the space have been talking about us in those bigger rooms, right? So we you know, Dame Dash knows he knows about Onaji. He knows, you know, he might pretend like he doesn't, but it's all good. But yes, yes, I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised with what we have coming down the pipeline on the back end, because everything that you're pointing out. Yes, we have. We've been talking about and we have been working on so for sure for sure for

Tap in with you and see if we can. How you know how we can utilize your health as well too? Because I'm all for that.

I definitely think that is an important topic, but I also think equally as important is being able to.

Mobilize ourselves as as as a number of people. What we see so much not only in onaji but also in the black Web 3 space is that there are people who are doing this right now, perhaps not at that huge that huge level, but they're starting this this I don't like to use the word grassroots because I feel like it's a buzzword, but falling to the purposes of a grassroot initiative to partner with everyone else and say, hey, these are my strengths here.

These are your strengths here. These are your strengths. Here let's all pull this together and as we take these strengths and we become this one large organization, or we all use those strengths to to the same goal, it starts to kind of have that that same it starts to gain that same momentum that you might have from someone who has the the money or the access, or the connections. And I do think that web 3IN itself is allowing.

People who.

Don't have that celebrity status or that large financial status to start to make large changes in individually and with others.

I want before we kind of move on, I want to say thank you to to own GB. I know that you have spent a lot of extra time with us today, so I want to say thank you for that. It was so good to speak with you today.

Before we kind of move on, tell us and I. I mean, we know this. We know this stuff because we know you. But where can we find you at where you be at in the streets?

Yes, I'll be out here, so I'm behind me on IG pages right now. Trying to get everybody to hop in there too, but ohaji on Twitter, twitter.com/anaji instagram.com/onaji, but you guys can follow me at E BV so it's Edward.

Almost almost with the government out there, but it's actually so Edward Boy Victor, right, there's an under score in front of that, but that's where you can find me. So yes, Sir, yes Sir.

Again, thank you so much Sir, for spending a little bit of your evening with us, continue to feel free to hang out and and continue in in our conversation. But what we kind of started with was a great segue to the next section that I kind of want to speak about. And before I do that, let's just reset the room we've already been in here for. But for those of us who might be New Years to our space, this is onaji university presents the Commons. I am lost. 2.0 I am your host for this Twitter.

Grace this is my first inaugural like Solo Twitter space. I'm feeling real good about, like the time that we got the people we got in here. The conversations were having so from me to you I want to say thank you for taking a little bit of your Wednesday evening to spend here in the space. And I want to one more time kind of open up the the stage. I want to move forward into a little discussion that I'd like to have and I want to do this for every space as well where I just kind of get.

The barometer of the people who are listening your your opinions on on a topic or on something that I've kind of been mulling over in my head over the past week and just a few days ago I was on the timeline having a conversation with with someone who's also in web web three and they were talking about.

They were. They were pretty much talking about I I am a big believer in in wag me and I feel like saying that you're like Umm, I feel like I feel that I rolls already but like I was saying just just a few moments ago. I do think that that Web three is a place that we can come in and we can create what it is that we don't have access to right now or things that we would like to continue to have access to moving forward not only individually but collectively with others and.

The conversation that that I was having the person was like that's real kumbayah that's a fallacy like that ain't real like that's what the influencer say and preach in spaces that we're all gonna make it like this is still the real world regardless of of anything else and that just kind of got me thinking like.

Is.

Do you think that Wagner is real?

Are we is is web 3A place where we can utilize our skills and utilize blockchain tech itself to.

Create what we have and and create what we want to achieve. If you've got an opinion on that, I would love to see you up on stage. I see Cypher you've got your hand up, I'd love to hear what you think.

Oh, I'm always going to have an opinion. So yeah, no I.

That's a good thing. That's a good thing.

I like to talk when it comes down to, you know, talking about aspects of movement and utility and everything like that when it comes to Web 3. The one thing that we have to worry about and.

I'm I believe the biggest thing is that it it allows for you to be able to have a way to self sponsor. It has a way for you to self track it. Had I mean like the web 3 space for music web 3 space for artists you're able to take out literally the middleman.

Oh the producer. I know that I don't know if a lot. A lot of you know that he just became like the community lead for Basie. But at the same time, before he became the community to lead, he's working on his own project with the the Hoo Hoos Treehouse where he's like here. Here's a beat record the beat. This is giving you an automatic end without having to go through all the rigmarole and we can put it in front of you in front of people or put you in front of people. Excuse me who will listen to

Going through an A&R and everything else like that so when it comes down to it, not only is it is it made for artists, but it's made for individuals. You know there's so many places where you can write. You can code. You can be an artist. You can be a person who's willing to actually create a project, and you can. You can monetize your your skills from any standpoint and then at the same time you're not required to be in a in a major city. You're not required to travel all over the place, so you

If you're not educated and you don't have access, you're not going to make it.

So that's where my problem is with. We're all going to make it. You can make it if you're barrier of entry is low, you can make it. If there's a community LED effort to put artists and talented people on and in sections.

Where they're from their communities, you know, and you can make it. If you just have the drive and you have a phone or you have a laptop or you have a library computer. So yeah, we're all going to make it, but we have to make it and they have to be educated on how to make it.

I love that because I I do think that education is is paramount in moving forward and being upwardly mobile in in in web three. That's why I love you so much. Is that it? It very much is a space where we are about education and not only is it about education, in in web three, but education of the fact of hey, there are people out here who are interested in what you do. There are people out here who want to see you succeed. There's a whole community that is being built.

In order to help give you that that access, whatever that you need to move forward. This space itself is an example of that. We do that every every Saturday in our educational spaces, but we have so much of our so many of our outfights our students who are here who who are artists who are musicians, and.

A space like this gives them that opportunity to come and speak in and.

Expand their reach further beyond maybe what their smaller community here, so there's always a community of people who are here for you and onaji. And if you're looking for more, we have so many connections that continue to reach further and further out. We can get help get you where you want to go, and so I do love that cypher that you said that that education is so important. I see through we you came up on stage next I would love to hear your opinions.

And whether you not you feel like wagging me is real. Is this something that we can actually achieve in Web 3?

Well, I I think it's the way you phrase your question before was like is wag me real or can we do all of these things? I don't. I think that's kind of a false choice. I think that both things can be true. Wacky could be false.

But but it doesn't mean that you can't. We can't do these things. I think it's a matter of people focusing on feelings and terminology rather than really what's behind it and wagging me was just a catch phrase, and it became popular and people you know kind of latched on to it. But the the conversation you recounted with someone it doesn't. It isn't that their opinion is untrue it, and at least to me it is. You know, I've said this before, it is true.

I mean we, the web three is just a word that people use. There is a reality that we're all actually existing in. And I mean there's a dissonance that people kind of willingly walk into to to kind of get that dopamine hit feel good. Enjoy this feeling of community and all of those things are good. There's nothing wrong with any of that, but there is another side to it. You know, as I've been in multiple discords and and follow along multiple projects and unlike.

Actually a lot of projects are very quiet. They don't have anything to talk about, so they're not talking. And you know, merch is the most they can muster and and that's not satisfying people. And you have a lot of people who got caught up in the emotion of wag me.

To now be facing the reality and you know they're they're kind of dealing with the come down of it. But I think there's a middle ground there where it's not so much about where all going to make it. I think Web 3 provides an opportunity will rather it provides a landscape that equalizes opportunity for people to make it, or at least the infrastructure that could get there. So I think it maybe is a more accurate way to say is that it's it's equalizing.

The opportunity for us to make it is giving everybody the same set of tools you know. There are different barriers to entry. As we've heard discussed today, but the infrastructure in itself exists without bias is as long as you can get to the blockchain. You can utilize it the same way anybody else can. There is no way to guarantee anybody's going to make it in any field or venture. That's just not life, so there's no way to say we're all going to make it. What is it even?

Everybody's definition of success, or it is not the same, so it's not even about, you know, is it this or that? I think both things can exist. Yes, it's true wagging me as a phrase. It's just a phrase. It has whatever meaning you assigned to it individually or as a group, but that the regardless of it not really being a thing. It doesn't mean that all these opportunities that we have are not real.

Yes yes yes. Gyms, as per usual gyms as per usual. Thank you I see through Jasmine sound off. I love to hear what you think about it.

What up what up guys?

Umm yeah man. Interesting conversation I'm I'm kinda used to like the new terminology in this space like the waggy and the and the URL. You know not to like. Well, I've been. I've been in space for a minute, so like this stuff is like new to me. These acronyms and stuff. But if I interpreted you correctly, the wag me is supposed to mean like we're all gonna make it as in like, oh, you know with crypto, we're all gonna quote UN quote reach our goals and what have you?

As it pertains to underrepresented groups, I'll speak on this and I'll say this. This is our last chance. It's our only chance. Bitcoin, crypto, NFT, leveraging the blockchain to prove provenance of our art to prove provenance of our ideas, our data and what have you. This is our last chance, and that's what Satoshi afforded us this opportunity to put these things on immutable Ledger to prove that we have, you know, access and probably as to what we do. You saw it in the music industry, which is

The words of a child called Quest, you know, rule #4080 record company people are shady. We keep going through these same cycles of having intimidatory businesses, big businesses pillage our people, pillage our data. You know, mining our data and it's just like it got to a point where it's just like, look, you know what I mean. We're afforded this opportunity with Web three to now monetize from within. Instead of outsourcing Amazons Googles, the intermediaries, and the Instagrams, right? I'm not

But in a day like this, is our only chance y'all crypto whatever you wanna call this space? This is our only chance so when you say rag me I'm thinking I'm not really thinking about OK are we all gonna make it my my my prerogative is how can we on board as many people as possible so people who want to make it can make it you did what I'm saying that's why when I first got into the space my first LLC was blockchain culture is still alive today where we educate black and brown.

Community is about Bitcoin and crypto. I started it at my desk at NASA in 2019 and my idea was I I can't. I was around people at the time I was around people who knew about Bitcoin but didn't tell anybody they knew about these these different types of things but didn't tell nobody and I peeped that. And I was like I'm not like that. You know what I mean? I don't wanna just keep this like what's the point of gaining wealth and having this wealth of knowledge if you don't share it. So my first int

And people like you know us reconvene and try to figure out how can we onboard more people if you're if you're prerogative, is to keep the information to yourself. You don't understand what decentralization is. There's a lot of folks that that are like that in this space that dabble in default, whatever. But if you're prerogative is to educate you, understand that mass adoption is the only way where we can do an enforcement case law, right when we we have multiple people on a network using the n

You know, uh, we we gonna make it is contentious. Like I I see said it's very contentious, especially when we have the digital divide. We still have folks who don't have access to Internet, but it's just a matter of the people who have the access now to Bitcoin and what and what not. It's like you gotta figure out after you get get your gains, what are you gonna do with it to empower the next person to empower the children, right? So that's all I had to say, but yeah, thank you both.

Thank you, no thank you for coming in and and adding such such a great perspective. I definitely agree with all three of the the speakers who are up up on stage and what they have shared. When I think about wag me, I'm not necessarily thinking about the phrase in itself, but I'm thinking about the opportunity that is behind a phrase like that. We have the opportunity we have the access to the materials some.

Some materials all unlike like Jason said, you know we, we do still have problems with with access across the board. But there are things here that we may not have. As I said in the oxygen world that can help us build new things to help continue to help us succeed and and move forward so it's not always necessarily the phrase but the opportunity that.

That it that can be held behind it, the tools that are that we that are behind it, the education that we continue to share with one another, that's behind it that can help us, whether we choose to use it or not use it. The fact that it's there and there is a way to access it. And there are people that are around to help you access it and help you continue to learn it. It's what I think is so important to me that I sometimes feel like it's.

Because I, I do think that you know you, we might hear the phrase and it goes. Oh, it's the.

I'm gonna think that toxic positivity or yeah, that's that's not really true. But there's so much more of a of a network of a branch of opportunities and tools and people that can help us take it and mold it into into what we need individually, and also collectively.

Yes, Sir, go ahead.

Well, I definitely believe there's an issue with toxic positivity in the in the space like I think there's a lot of mental masturbation going on. I mean, really.

And it when you look at it, it comes from this whole ape in culture. You know, first in definitely something that that Jasmine addressed. Just use the terminology that's used in the spaces. That's what I'm using, but she definitely addressed it is what she sees in a professional setting.

And.

For people that to to be that.

Let's say flippant with how they're going to apply their gains in a space. You can already tell that.

You know it, it doesn't matter if it's in a professional setting. If it's going to be in a casual setting in a community, it is going to be here in spaces, in the in the web three community aspect. The truth is is that there's a lack of sharing and the lack of sharing as we know it's the. This is now the infinite, the information, age, and and when you're dealing with people in an information age, if you have a lack of information, you're going to have a lack of access. You're going to have a la

And that lack of knowledge is going to leave you behind, and it's and and behind in learning, not behind and being able to do it. And it just depends on your motivation and your organization as to how you're going to get there.

That's my biggest issue that's always going to be my biggest issue. Organization is always going to be one of those things that's important.

And I'm never gonna. I'm never not gonna say organization isn't important. Every organization starts from a top down. You have the the way you think about it the way you approach it the way you apply it and then you have the action that you have to then follow through with it. And if you don't have that as a culture and a company and a community, or even anywhere you're not going to be successful.

So we're all going to make it if we all have the right mindset, we're all going to make it. If there's people who are willing to share information. If you don't have an ally, then you have to go ahead and you have to work that much harder just to educate yourself to get there.

You can't make it perseverance.

Is one of the things that we have. Fortitude is one of the things that we things that we have. Interest is one of the things that we, things that we have and hunger to be successful is definitely what someone has to have in order to be involved in this space because it's tough being a person of color when everybody else doesn't want to share.

You know it's tough being a person of color when everybody else really doesn't think you deserve access to it. I played on that tennis courts in South Carolina. I got treated differently. You know what I'm saying?

I played and did sports.

In places I wasn't supposed to be, but perseverance and the fact that I had a mother who backed me up, I had a father who was who was there to encourage me, even if it was from afar.

It makes a difference so.

We have to have the. We're going to make it.

Attitude but with a dose of reality, not the toxic, you know, positivity stuff that's going on.

I wholeheartedly agree wholeheartedly agree I grew up.

With a with a mother who always told me you can do anything, you set your mind to.

And.

Unknowingly, that has permeated every section of my life to where I've done so many things I've that I'm super grateful for, but they've always been a little bit fraught with adversity, but I never looked into it. The idea of, oh, I won't be successful at this. This is something that I want to do. This is something that I'm interested in. This is something that I'm going to continue that I want to excel at, and so having that that mindset.

Uh.

A lot of times I I. I feel like.

Tempers the toxic positivity side.

But again, being a black person, we do. We grow up with that dose of reality as well, but we do need that that mindset to help us continue to push forward each and every day of the press. The perseverance of the determination like like you mentioned.

And.

That

Tenant that.

Idea that she told me from a very young age has followed me and now in into Web 3.

Two where.

I still now consist of fairly new to the space. I only came into the space in late January.

But from late January to now?

The growth that I myself have experienced.

Is a testament to I can do anything I set my mind to and that has put me in spaces with people like you guys with people with projects like onaji with so many other people who have helped.

Me continue to understand that and continue to get that little push to move forward.

And so a lot of those spaces have been spaces with black and brown people.

So.

We are there. We are here we are that push we are that bolster we are that support we are we see that the information is not shared from other places so we share it among ourselves.

I think that's the beauty of what it is to be black and be in web 3.

Though.

I appreciate all of the opinions that we have. Is there anyone else who would like like to share or have any final thoughts for our conversation today? Jasmine, please go ahead.

I have a final thought I'm about to take a class right now, but I'm just going off of what you just said. Boss, you know, being blackness, space, we for the first time we can be sovereign over ideas over our intellect over all the things that have been taken from us and monetized by people who don't look like look like us. And I think that's one of the beauties of being in this space and it. And it's that's kind of what makes this space so sacred. I feel like at least microcosms of it.

We're able to monetize directly from our brains from our genius. From our culture. We didn't have that before. If you look at hip hop, hip hop has been has not been gate capped. When you look at our style, our flavor, you know we see it. Even in the NFT space. You know I'm not going to say which projects, but this is the first time where we can actually build build what we want to build, create what we want to create and monetize directly to the people who support us, right? It's just a matter o

At the table with you auditing your team, auditing the people who believe with me in you, but like we like man it. It just excites me because you know, it's it's like I feel like in the next 5-10 years we're going to see a whole wave of black kids getting into this space and getting early. And I'm all about that too. So it's just like we got to continue to persevere, persevere. Don't let any of the things that you've seen in space gets to you. Let it roll off your back.

Unless you know every each one, teach one you know as soon as you learn something new, share it with a friend and they share it with a friend. That's how blockchains work, and I don't understand why people are bringing kind of that. That mindset that we had in traditional finance and web 2 into web three expecting there should not the break, but that's just my tibit. Thank you all for the space.

Thank you so much as well, Jasmine, thank you for sharing your perspective. Thank you for sharing your opinion. Thank you so much. I see through we see your hand go ahead and wrap this up with the final thought.

I just wanted to congratulate you on a great space. I know you said you were a little nervous about it, but you did an excellent job. This was well done and I look forward to many more. I think this was a great conversation. The only final thought I would have is as as much as it's important for us to articulate.

And understand.

That's the coolest, particularly as it relates to other people, gatekeeping or not sharing things with us.

It's also important for us to kind of block some of that out sometimes, and just focus on getting shit done. And I think we have come across many people in these spaces in in this space tonight.

That are more than willing to get shit done, so I just love to see that. And I love the conversation and I look forward to more spaces from you boss.

Thank you Sir. I appreciate the love. I appreciate the love. Big time yes.

Little bit nervous, but you guys have definitely come in and definitely set my spirit at ease. I love to hear perspectives from so many different people, whether they differ from mine or whether they align with mine as well. So I'm glad I could take a moment and have a forum for everyone to come in, to speak, to share. I can, you know, I continue to learn more each and every day that I'm in web three from the people that are in my own Nagy family but also from the people I want on the timeline.

Each and every day. So I appreciate the love. I hope they continue to to to do it but.

Cypher is there anything that you would like to share before we kind of asked to not be likes to say Landis playing?

I mean, the only thing I can say is you know.

I I, I think one, we're blessed.

We're blessed in in the from the standpoint of that, we have access to.

What's going on? We we have the ability to be able to be creative and we have the ability to be able to to catch up on what's going on. The information now the the the tools. Now we're making it more accessible without having to, you know, truly hard code and do a lot of things, but from a from a true standpoint, we there is some catch up that has to that has to happen. But if you've ever been in any class, sometimes you may start off slow, but you know towards the end of it.

You can go on ahead. You can pick up the pace. You can take it more seriously. The information is just kind of clicks and makes sense and I believe that's where we are currently. Is that we're we're kind of in that that part where there's a catch up phase, but with the the creativity, the talent, definitely, the ability and the the inherent aspect of just interest is is going to work out no matter what. No matter, you know. Anyway, someday not. Today is the day, not tomorrow, not yesterday. Toda

Pain in the present and that's it. And just pushing, you know, pushing it as as as hard as we can. Not as fast as we can. I don't want to break shit. You know what I'm saying? Don't go fast and break shit you want to go fast and make sure you're you're. You're definitely doing it right and setting the kids up for the future. Set the community up for success and that's that's how I look at it.

Absolutely absolutely thank you so much for coming in to share your your perspective and in your conversation with 09 GB.

And one more time just for me. I cannot say enough how thankful I am that you guys still suspend a little hour or so with me this evening for my first ever the Commons. You know, anaji, you present to the Commons. I want to continue to have more of the spaces where we highlight our Onaji family and also continue to have discussions like the one we had today. So if you enjoyed it, you know, feel free to tweet it out. Let let let everybody know. So maybe we can.

Thank you to help this grow. I've been keeping my eyes and ears open and also my eyes on everyone that we have down here in the in the listening audience. And so I've got a little special something for you, so I'm going to probably be reaching out to you pretty soon. I hope you will take advantage of that, but again, I want to say thank you so much. Continue to kind of keep your eyes and ears open. I do like Wednesdays, Wednesdays, work for my schedule, but as we start to have others we may.

Kind of moving around here and there, so keep your eyes and ears open for for the space and I hope to see all of your PFP's and your faces and all the iterations of who you are and web three and in real life down in the listening area and also on stage. So again thanks so much for joining me for on IU presents the comments. I'm boss 2.0 y'all have a wonderful night.