Hey.

No.

Get out the way, get out the way. Get out the way, get out the way, get the fuck up.

Win win win, win, win.

Win, win, win.

That bitch.

Win, win, win.

You wanna go?

Texas assault.

That black tooth dog.

You're right.

So, uh, we win, win, win, win, win. We're on tattoos. That's fun.

All of them.

Don't cha cha.

How fucking wrong they have.

Album cover.

I got bigger plans there, really being kept there since I was six. I kept there so long.

Let's keep way too far.

Talk to you.

Get out the way. Get out the way. Get out the way. Get the fuck.

No.

You know with me, ohh, just me out.

Thanks.

Win, win, win, win.

Everything.

Win, win, win.

Win, win, win.

Win. Win. Win. Fuck. Don't.

To beat something like drill side, I got the battle side by side and if you act bad, I'll bring the cow side. Go and get some money, bitch.

About who you're running with I'm all in the field. That's one hit my floor, just to read up.

Here is what it was. Flipped the hubbub and gave him back book. Yeah, 911. No mileage, baby. Nine father no violent baby. My trigger finger got caught, baby. My bad knuckles Got Talent, baby.

Put it on, do not been with it. She too far not been hit. It crashed two times. I live at my new home, riding with the touch.

Keeping your ship.

Nothing wrong something.

Get out the way, get out of the way.

Get out.

Kiss me off.

Win win win, win, win.

Win, win, win.

Win, win, win.

That bitch.

Win.

There.

What up, kids?

Would it would it would up ohh wait. Hold on. You guys here, can you hear me?

My Bluetooth connected.

Yeah, buddy, hold on. Let me just set this up real quick.

Show Kohl's in Vicente. Born. What up? What up? 121 was good supper. What up, Stony, my man? The batmans. Here. Jay green, Nas.

That should hear. I like it.

Joe, what is good? My brother.

Hey Dave, doing good. Just watching some football. You.

Yeah.

Uh, you know, man, that's they grinding out here on Twitter spaces. I feel like I've been. I feel like I've been in so many spaces already today. Like normally this is my first one. Like this is my first thing on like a Sunday, but I feel like I've been to so many.

Ohh, you fit into that rhythm and just bouncing around.

That's it, bro. That's it. So those are y'all that part of the the EMS crew that don't know who show is show is a I don't want to call him an influencer. Like Homeboy does like the deep dives, right? He finds like the goods like in V like the videos that like maybe some of us haven't seen. And he's he's one of the few like Youtubers like that. I watch like on TV. Of course I watch get high. Let's be serious, bro.

Type in Chad because shit. But yeah, like Homeboys got the I don't know. I hate the word alpha, but you know what I'm talking about. He he's got the goods. He's got the goods. And 2nd WAVY. What up, my guy and like going out now?

I like this. I'm actually going to save this right now, guys. Retweet this space, do it. Because this one I think is going to be good and Full disclosure, OK.

This is gonna be speculation nation all over the fucking place, right? I got. I mean look, we we pulled on the thread in the couch and there's some shit that's starting to come out now. So we're going to see if we can keep on pulling and maybe we pull out some sort of a.

A credible link between V&ENS, because if we do boy.

WAVY. What's up?

Yeah.

Today Man City and I was gonna say I'm watching Germany. Spain. So um yeah, second-half World Cup. I mean the Deutschland. Obviously I must support Germany right? But it's funny because I'm betting on Spain in the cool kids discord. So I I feel like I'm going to win either way.

Yeah, there you go.

You're torn. You're literally fucking.

I like how I'm competing against Second World Cup. I mean, listen, everybody's gonna have World Cup on, probably in the background. I think I'm the only idiot who probably won't born. What up?

Yo, what's up?

Yeah, ohh yo-yo chillin, chillin. What's good?

Nothing much, just enjoying the rain.

Welcome to this is your first office hours, isn't it?

I think so.

Well, alright. I like it. I like it. I like it. Welcome, Welcome, welcome.

Thank you. Thank you.

I like seeing the other ENS fam up in here. What up? Get high.

You can bring some.

What up, bro? Office hours clocking in?

Yeah, man, you bring some coffee for everybody or what?

Yeah, I retweeted and did the spaces over.

But where? Where the coffee at, though?

The coffee. Oh, oh, let me. I'll be right back.

Alright, cool. And then leave the Digi joints at home, you heard?

No serious face, serious face in here, man.

Hey, send me the address. By the way, checking the I I mean did one of the what's it called for? Did you join? So let me know where to send it or did I send it already?

I saw no. I got one. I got one from you.

Ohh you did alright cool, I forgot if I sent it already or not.

Thank you, Sir. I'll look in my wallet. I was like, whoa, what is this pretty dope?

What? What is it? And shout out the pickleball, by the way, whose video on the whole I like how to like download install. I PFS made it mad simple like match out out the pickleball, wherever he is, we need to get his ass in here. But yeah, good shit, man. Good shit.

I know.

And it's his voice, too. It's so smooth, right? It does. That's so smooth.

He's so smooth, right? He's like, hey guys, I mean, other than the fact that he called it IP SF for the whole video. Like, I thought it was dope.

I love pickleball, bro. I love my love. Yeah, I don't. To Selinko also, man.

Here's what I kind of want to start off with this like quick little like little anecdote from yesterday and then we'll jump into the whole VNS thing, right? So for those that are on the space, when Fireball was in there, Fireball had registered a domain. No, this is before Sundays. No, no, before Saturday was Friday, right? He had registered a domain NFT's dot E right? NFT ES like T like T-shirts, right? And I had asked him, I said yo.

Like, you know, I see that they have a presence on on Twitter and they're actually active. Looks like they're new business that you reach out to me. He said no. So I reached out to them and I ultimately started a dialogue and sorry if this is repetitive for those that heard it, but I think this is important kind of like where we stand now. And they had gotten back to me, we had a little bit of discourse going and they ultimately agreed to allow me to run a Twitter space with them and a few other

So it's like bring your friends kind of deal and so I'm in the process of scheduling that but.

From the last update until now, I essentially tried to like, I'm starting to put the like the pressure on a little bit. But when I say pressure, I don't mean like hey, make a decision. If you want to buy something, right? It's hey listen this isn't my name and you don't want somebody to make a move, right, without you at least being in the know. So the sooner you get back to me like because I'm the one looking out for you, the better off you and your brand are are going to be because.

You like in the nice way, I said you like you guys don't have that. Like we are in like somebody is in possession, right? And say we somebody is in possession of your daddy domain and you want to get ahead of this and that was the thing that caused them to respond. And now I'm just waiting for a time that we're actually going to meet. So the point of that was there's ways to ultimately push or create urgency, right, with any prospect that you're going to be talking to, right, especially if they'

But right now it's like I'm the intermediary between Fireball and and and nftsright.com.

So that right there is me pushing a little bit and being like listen, we got to set something up now. It kind of lights the fire because they're going to Art Basel and they're, by the way they're UK based.

Entity right then. Now, they obviously serve the United States. They shipped to the United States, but they're coming all the way from the UK, right? All the way from the UK to go to Art Basel in Miami. That's a big fucking deal, right? So you know, they're serious about their business. But I thought that was a nice little tidbit.

Yeah, before we keep going. Because for some reason Fireball thinks you could put me on the clock. 72 hours. Come on, fireball. Stop it. Just stop it.

Anyways so.

ENS&V.

Anybody in that V space last night show, I know you were there was any was anybody in NS in that V space last night guy we were in there.

You're.

To talk.

Anybody.

Let me see who else? Who else did I see?

I got there late, Dave. I only got a little bit of what David you were saying. So I pretty much missed like a lot of it.

Yeah, I missed the David you portion, but this alpha came a little bit after not really alpha. This info came after David you was gone. So let me give kind of like pretext as to what we're going to be talking slash speculating on today right, so.

Wallet. When I went to space it was after David use the COV for those that don't know and ultimately the hosts and Co hosts were inviting some artists and it turned out that.

Uh, Frank Kozik, who was a very popular artist that is on the TV app.

And Ali Sabet who is working to is probably going to be on the TV app very shortly, ended up being on the Twitter space, right. And at one point there was speculation going around where I forgot who it was that had mentioned something of what David you had mentioned earlier on that space was he teased out some sort of a brand and I think it was a keel from G media that ultimately said he interpreted David's.

Sweet, because David had mentioned something of they have 50 to 70 million Instagram followers and they had narrowed it down to one of two things. They said it was either going to be the K pop group BTS, right? Because I know V is going to go in the music direction.

Or.

NASA.

Like, yeah, like NASA, like space NASA, those are two very different things, right? And Akeel surmised that because he said brand, that it was going to be NASA.

And I realized that I mean from someone who owns. Obviously the grail of KPOP is KPOP tickets dot ETH obviously.

That BTS is taking a break. They're not on tour. Like they're literally not, they're not disbanding, but they're ultimately like kind of like it's hiatus I think for the next like I believe it's the next year, year or two years. So there's no tours or anything going on. So like is it going to be them? I don't know, but NASA kind of fit. So that's what kind of brings us here today and the reason why, I mean in addition to show being a dope as co-host.

This is my guy who does the digging.

Show, tell us kinda like where do we stand? I know that you put a video out on this and kind of like bring us up to speed in terms of what do we think and what are we speculating right in terms of NASA and V relationship.

Uh, so I know David's kind of teased them before in the past. So obviously they're like the SpaceX. And I think, yeah, David had like the NASA hot at one point. So it's one of those obviously a major brand, major IP. It does kind of fit in with the Instagram followers on that 50 to 770,000,000. So again, who knows what's going to happen with NASA, but pretty interesting to see what will develop coming forward or also to.

With the V verse demo being displayed, I covered that off in another video. It's from a cavernous they're the ones building the platform and in that they were showing a demo of their metaverse and they did some drop in assets of some collectibles at the same time too. They had the V verse I guess running at a certain point, so he had the NASA Land Rover dropped in and a Ducati bike. So speculating that way I could be.

Those V assets being displayed and that could tie in the NASA aspect.

Ohh.

OK, so in a video.

That was where is it on your YouTube?

Yeah, it's on my channel.

I need you to post that to the top kind Sir.

Sure thing, dude.

Thank you. A NASA Rover. And it was labeled like and it was labeled like. You saw clearly it had like the NASA logo.

Let me pull up his YouTube.

Uh, there there was no there was no NASA logo on it, but it was the, uh, the Mars Land Rover.

Hmm. OK.

Got it.

The weather like why put a Land Rover?

Like, why put the Mars Rover on there if it has absolutely nothing? I mean, that's kind of a random, that's kind of a random thing to just put up there.

Yeah. He was showing how the ease of the cavernous metaverse is with judge drag and drop items for digital assets and they also had a Ducati bike in there. And so this presentation was done three weeks ago and the V verse demo was just done a week ago. And at that verse demo, they had the announcement of the Lamborghini brand. And Lamborghini is owned by the Volkswagen Group and Ducatis also owned by Volkswagen. So there might be a time.

In that regards.

Uh, huh.

This isn't even like a 6 degrees of separation type deal. Like this is all in like that's like Volkswagen Group in Ducati and Lamborghini hoping it's under the same umbrella spell cavernous for me.

CAVRNUS.

Caverness. The ultimate Metaverse builder platform. This is interesting.

Huh.

OK.

I'm gonna go to your YouTube real quick and I'm gonna pin. Are you pinning? Are you did you pin it?

I was trying to.

Yeah, yeah. I got you. I got you. Let me see. Where you at? Crypto show.

Alright, I got you right here. Let me pull up your thing. Is it your latest one?

Got it.

Yeah, yeah, the latest video, the spoiler 1.

Boiler.

OK.

I like the way you have this whole shit set up, bro.

No, thank you.

Yeah, man.

OK.

So got this. I'm gonna pin this up to the top in a second. It's a 46 minute video. I just want to be able to provide the resource for everybody, but this is dope.

OK, so if it's Mars Rover?

Now let's go to the ENS. Let's put that on pause for a second, right? Does anybody on the ENS side like WAVY born hype summer? I know you came up actually sober. What's up? Did you want to comment maybe on the last thing or anything you chat about?

Hmm.

None of this came up if I have anything to add. Thank you.

You got it, my brother.

So on the ENS side, WAVY you remember anything started to take away from World Cup? Do you remember anything being discussed about NASA at all on the ENS side of things?

I'm not sure that I remember. Uh, if I'm honest. Um, champ? Um. But it wouldn't be far fetched to assume that there will be kind of.

Immutable blockchain that just survives regardless of what's going on on planet Earth. So.

Using low satellite infrastructure or orbit to host blockchain and and just have a suitable network I I can see being a realistic goal.

Agreed, agreed, agreed.

Thought, but yeah, joining the dots with the NS. I haven't heard anyone say anything specific.

Let me ask you this question like do you think that, and this is going to sound really funny, but I really want you to consider this because it's always the the solutions that we're not looking at or the potential things were like are are furthest from our minds that end up being like, wait, wait, did what do you see? Like domains like literally like emoji specifically?

Like rocket ship emojis potentially being something that NASA would want.

Ola.

Umm.

Well, first and foremost, Spain just scored, so I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Yeah, yeah. So I feel good. My cool cat sided me. Feels good because that's good for my anyway. So how do I feel about NASA potentially acquiring?

Emoji based domains that might contain rocket ship or whatever and yeah, why the fuck not?

Really. I mean if I'm honest with you, I've seen stranger things happen and I wouldn't put it past, I wouldn't put it past an institute or a, you know, a government level entity like that. To adopt A friendly name that get gives them some sort of communication, an easier form of communication.

Or, you know, a a handle that people can resonate with.

So yeah, why not?

So, alright, makes sense. I wanna read you this and this is what show provided me too, right? This is like the NASA official statement. You ready?

NASA is not approving any merchandising applications involving non fungible tokens.

As they are not consistent with the categories of products the agency is approved to merchandise.

Is that again?

Nothing is coming up. Batman is coming up. NASA is not approving any merchandising applications involving non fungible tokens as they are not consistent with the categories of products the agency has approved to merchandise.

Batman.

I got NASA daddy's upside down, so we're all good, fellas.

Motherfucking shameless plug. Hold on a second. So the second part of that is further as stated in the NASA media usage guidelines, because everybody reads those. NASA does not wish for its images to be used in connection with NFT's.

So now here's what I make of this right the first part of not approving merchandising application is not consistent with the brand. That's not a no like. That's like a Nah. We're not licensing this stuff out because we're doing it ourselves.

Further, as stated in the NASA usage guide, they don't wish for their image to be used in connection with NFTS.

I mean that could be, I mean that could be no, that could be easily like now we don't want to be associated with NFT, but who's to say their NFT? Who knows that ENS domains are NFT?

This is something in my opinion. I see this as the complete other side. This is a domain name that we registered.

It's literally to make it simple for people to get there. Because let's be honest, the very mention of the NASA media usage guidelines doesn't sound too fucking sexy to me.

And they don't wish for their images to be used in connection with entities. Nobody needs to know their NFTS. All you gotta do is type in.

Rocket roji. Rocket emoji. Rocket emoji.

Daddy. Ethan, you're good. Daddy's that limo, and you're good and you're kosher.

How do you guys interpret that show? How did you interpret this thing?

Just a real quick signal from there. Remember, Sony also said that they're not using NFT's as well.

Ohh yeah.

And they said that for their community, so you never know.

Ignore.

And give us give us a little aware Sony at now. I mean other than Sony Animation sponsoring all the fucking designer con where frigging NFTS were everywhere.

Well, they had that Sony NFT patent that they had as well.

They've been registering, they've been filing for patents like crazy lately, and people have been speculating like it's for PlayStation, PlayStation, I hope. I mean, whatever it's for, like they're filing a ton of like Metaverse patents. Like in in if people don't think that NFT's are, the blockchain is going to play a role in the metaverse. Like you haven't been paying attention.

Well, there are the latest NFT patent it basically it evolves around gaming aspects. So for E sports, they're going to be using it for memorabilia basically like because sports is the #2 league in the world. And what they're looking at is that all these celebrities or athletes, whatever you want to call them esports since that's going to be, they're playing with these end game items. That's going to be memorabilia, that's going to be like your LeBron James basketball or your you know, you know,

Where you know, we have these premier, you know, esport players and then they can either sell those in game assets they used in the games or you can rent them out. And then even just from like the user base, you can also like have your own in game assets as NFT's and these moments and experience. So they're really taking all the experiences of gaming and making that into NFT.

I love that. Like, I mean that's.

Like, this is what I'm saying. It's like the connection between the two in terms of NFT right, just NFT right. And what these guys are gonna be doing, I think they realize how much steam the entire NFC market is really picking up. And we're going to start discovering really what NFT's can truly do when they start being used in the way. And I don't even know if it was this, if it was intended this way, but like.

Showing. I'm curious of what you think. Like how do you actually see them being like implemented into these games like you specifically like, are you a gamer?

I'm not like a hardcore gamer, like I played games since I was a kid, so kind of like a casual game in that regard. So I don't have like a setup. I don't have like a setup or anything like that.

Got you.

I mean, I I mean, if there's any gamers I'd love to hear, like from people that actually like game Batman. I feel like you're a gamer. Are you a gamer?

I used to be but not not in the past like 2-3 years.

Got you. So because like, yeah, other than like like game economies, right, where it's like currencies and like play to earn. Like I'm curious like who has played because I know that people were kind of referencing what was the Sony thing called that was on the PlayStation. Sony was at home.

Yeah, Sony home or Sony now, whatever it's called. But you know, like the like the social hub aspect.

Yep.

Yeah, yeah, they they did that like years ago. It was like very early Metaverse style.

Yeah, because I heard like I think it was, it was rich in Trevor kind of debating it one night where it's like these video games are already there, so I'm just kind of curious like how they're going to be used. But yeah, man knows what's up, my guy, how are you?

Phenomenal. That's good, Dave. How are you, brother?

I'm doing good, man. I'm doing good. How's it feel to be a year older, you old son of a bitch?

That.

You're one that speaks there. You're 1 to speak. You remember when you talk about age and talking about yourself too. But it's a it's good. It's it's good.

Good man, good.

Not in the 40s yet, man. I'll let you know.

Yeah, I hear that, bro. I hear that now. I was dope. For those that don't know. Like we got like I got a chance to meet up with Nas like and a bunch of the other review family designer con, you know, show you got to come to the next one, man. Like whatever, wherever we go like it was fucking so dope.

Ohh.

Sorry about that. I don't know if that was me or not. Might have been chill. You got too excited. But yeah man, me and get hype got to chill. We got to chill with our artist. Like the artists. Like it was really really dope and it was not as a birthday too. So have shout out for your birthday, bro. Yo. So now you're in these V spaces a lot, right? Like, I mean obviously I was in them like crazy. I try and stop back in whatever I can.

Are they talking at all? At all when I'm not, at least when I'm not there?

About ENS in any way, shape or form. About emojis or anything.

Nope.

Not new.

See. And this is what like, and that's to me, that's the reason why. So here's what I so this is kind of the maybe the rumor mill that I created myself, maybe. I don't know. But from what I heard within the NSA, I heard this. I know I heard this.

Was.

NASA was or put a NASA had put a bid in right with someone that either owned I don't know if it was the three rocket emojis or if it was the quad rocket emojis right Saber if you have a like to corroborate what I'm saying like I know you put it up there. I don't know if that's agreeing with me but if you can corroborate that come up here because I I might be hanging out by myself on this one. But I I remember very fucking clearly that somebody had mentioned to me that they're close.

And I knew who the person was too, that ohh that owned that owned the Quad rockets are you guys? That's what he went by. And I think like that is kind of where my head started going. And I'm like, wait a minute NASA. So when I heard this yesterday, I was like, what the fuck? Sober talked to me bro.

Can you just repeat the question once? Sorry, I wasn't pregnant.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I just saw you throw up 100. When I said the quote like that, NASA was inquiring about they were ultimately putting a bid in on acquiring the either three rocket emojis or the four rocket emoji ENS domain.

You do. You do you remember hearing any of that or no?

Yeah, yeah, I do remember hearing that. Personally, I have not ever, not really. I don't really have any sort of emojis. So because I still think they're just flex of it and all my I've completely agreed to it that I was wrong. People were right that they have. It is a cultural thing and a lot of more people relate to it. So it's pretty possible, as we were saying, that they can go for the domains like trip rocket emojis. It's just simpler to explain to other people. So it might not be a conspir

OK, yes. I'm not fucking crazy. I knew it, OK?

Alright, Nazi, I need you now. Were you in that whole thing yesterday with David? You start to finish or no?

Ohh.

For the most part, yeah. I, I got up there and I was talking and David, you came up. Yep.

OK, so with what he was saying.

And I think it was V Mr and and Nikhil that kind of narrowed it down to those two. Can you draw that conclusion too and like can you give us anything like with what David you had said, if you remember anything or no?

I mean as far as the contacts and the numbers I have no clue but but from what Akhil said, it kills the one that narrowed it down or confirmed it was NASA and then Akhil is the one or sorry Levi Meiser came in and dropped the numbers between NASA.

And another one.

BTS.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, BTS, so that that was the two. So that's where they made the connection on NASA, on the brand. So kill said he was going to start digging a little bit more, too.

That's interesting. OK, I wanna invite akeel so that we can maybe get a little bit more.

Maybe he can kind of give us the insight into why he's like, because NASA just seems like a random brand, right? Like like why NASA and show. Maybe you can help with this one. Like have we been hinting at NASA at all or any other type of, I don't know, space or aeronautics or anything?

Just like SpaceX mostly. So going back a few years Dave and you on his thing was his Instagram had a photo with a mug of space sack just kindly out of you. But been a few references of SpaceX with this hat as well and maybe the odd NASA reference in one of those AMA's with David.

Hmm. OK.

88 what's up, my guy?

Yo, how you doing guys?

You doing good. My brother was good.

Yeah.

Always love a good conspiracy, especially about rockets. Especially on a Monday morning. And I'm like, ohh, this is way more fun than thinking about getting the kids ready for school. So like, yeah.

I'll just say so you've gone through SpaceX and NASA. Have you thought about some of the smaller rocket companies? There's Rocket Lab USA as well. Rocket lab. They're doing some pretty cool things with small rockets and reusable rockets and like a small satellite.

So.

So I think they've got.

So just a heads up, so the reason why we we narrowed it down to like NASA or I don't know, maybe SpaceX, because David, you the CEO said between 50 and 70 million Instagram followers.

Hmm.

Yeah.

No problem.

So that's why we're not focused on smaller. But you're the man with the imagination, Mr Artisto, right? For those that don't follow meta, do yourself a favor and follow meta. Do me, do me a favor, like I I need that. I need that imagination right now. Like how would NASA use an emoji fucking an emoji domain? Or how, like if you were NASA, how would you use it?

Um.

Interesting, right?

Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting. Maybe to.

Man, I guess there's ways to communicate with the the Rovers and stuff like that, isn't there?

Maybe.

And whether they're, you know, whole satellites or something like that, maybe, maybe people could.

Like.

I know give domain names to near Earth satellites or something and then they become like.

You know, people own those individually rather than like, yeah, like they've become like shareholders in like a like a.

Network of satellites like what's the one Starling? I don't know.

Damn you are. Yes, like you are out there on the conspiracy theories called spiral out of control real quick. So I was the way I was thinking Batman, I think your hands went up. Maybe you might say the same thing as me, but was like.

When you're NASA right? And aeronautics is and space is so fucking complex, right. It's not sexy to the general public, right. Like the only time we tune into NASA is when there's like a launch at Cape Canaveral like on TV to see like ohh, they made it. Like yeah everything else is just it's not sexy. But yet we spend a lot of money right in terms of like government budget, like federal budget on space exploration. So if we can bring. And now don't forget Elon Musk.

And SpaceX has been has been giving like space a lot of burn recently, right? Like it's a lot of exposure. Maybe it's NASA just trying to maybe compete either with like SpaceX or make it a little bit more sexy for the general public and maybe try and get ahead of something for the first time in a long time. And it's like 4 rocket emojis, three rocket emojis and then I can see what NASA is about and maybe it being simple.

I don't know that's a shot, but I mean, what were you going to say?

Yes, it's like you don't even buy the phone. Like buy the phones.

The fuck?

Ohh.

He's probably on the mission right now.

No.

See.

But with them, NASA and SpaceX, I see them as just very close partners, mate, like they they.

But NASA almost can be NASA at the moment without SpaceX support, so I don't think they'd be competing against each other.

And from a commercial sense?

I think that goes down to.

SpaceX, they've got the freedom the like, you know, they've got left like jurisdiction from them. Yeah, because as soon as NASA spend the fucking extra dollar on her extra rivet, they get hammered for, you know, like they're under scrutiny the whole time. But like, SpaceX could do whatever fuck you want, you know?

So.

Yeah, I mean, it's kind of US airspace anyway, right? Like, when you think about it, you know what I'm saying? Like they're going to be flying out. They're launching off of like, my property. But when you talk about space exploration.

And maybe I don't even know this show if you know it, or 88 if you know it, how does it work when it comes to like NASA?

Like, who owns the fucking skies? I guess if you're flying over the United States and into space, it's like, now what? Right. But I feel like SpaceX has to get permission to launch.

Yeah, that's supposed to be like our International Space Treaty, essentially as soon as they launched those first rockets and satellites in like that.

Uh, you know, 60s or whatever that it came into play pretty quick, but I believe there's certain.

How is the beta might be testing those boundaries in recent years, or, you know, maybe they have been the whole time that we just never know. But yeah.

Yeah.

Interested to know when you go to another planet and you land on a planet and you're the first one there or on the moon and you put your flag there, you know, like, that is the one that I'm like, like, do they own that land or they, you know, that area? It's really cool. So there's something like 7 different countries now that have landed probes on Mars.

And India is one of them. The UAE is one of them, I think.

Obviously China and the US, and I'm not sure how. Yeah, there's a long list and you're like, wow, you never even knew they had a space program, let alone like landing, you know, things on Mars. So yeah, it's pretty, pretty.

Pretty cool.

I'm gonna. I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make an even more a bigger genius out of you. And just the second watch this sober. What's up?

No, I was just saying that India's mission that I was following earlier as well and they have completed the mission of sending space satellites and spaces in up in the spaces for like under a billion dollar. Even Musk was like how can a person achieve it? So I was just saying India's growing on the technological side of saying that is why I think Evans is going to be big there. So just a circle, I wanted to chime in.

Yeah, that's exactly that's the perfect segue. You already if you do a simple Google search. A simple Google search of is NASA using blockchain technology OK.

Like, this is some shit, man. This is funny. So you ready? Better.

NASA explores blockchain for autonomic for autonomous satellite communication. OK, So what you just said like I mean pretty much like 7580% of it in terms of like for the satellite that works NASA to use Hyperledger blockchain for air traffic management.

What?

Yeah, I better go now. I think they're, they're, they're coming after. They're really triangulating my position.

Be careful with what you say. It's like it was Dave. He made me do it. He made me say it.

This is crazy stuff.

Yeah, that's what's up.

And if you start reading into this right, it says Hyperledger Fabric is a set of developer tools which help any entity establish their own private blockchain quickly without worrying about the implementation details. A private blockchain created using the Hyperledger fabric gives permission to access to trusted users. What else does that? As designated by the creators of the blockchain, private blockchain does not have to deal with the additional overhead of synchronizing with millions of distri

Devices, and therefore private blockchain, has much higher speeds.

Says the report includes a prototype of the communication network in which a trusted party like the Quote Fabric Certificate Authority is employed for the registration of entities, issuance, renewal and revocation of enrollment certificates.

Are you telling me that everything I just read is not ENS? Like with an overlay, it's like a white label. You know how Coinbase uses ENS, right? Like that to me screams the exact wave. Tell me I'm crazy right now that what I just read off is not like a white label ENS solution on a private blockchain.

Sorry, John, Spain scored.

Yeah, like killing me today, man. Killing me.

I'm thinking I got gold.

You're asking me a question, right?

Yeah.

Ohh shit because I'm so sorry buddy. You cannot see me again brother.

So I was saying in terms of how, how not like NASA is going to be using the blockchain, right. And they said they're going to be ultimately testing out a private blockchain, right. For ultimately that's going to include like a, it's a what they should have like a prototype of the communication network like and a trusted party, right. Which is essentially the name of the blockchain is going to be hyper Ledger fabric where there's going to be some sort of an authority it's that's going to be emplo

Certificates. Is that not like a small a small portion of what ENS actually does? And couldn't they just literally white label the same way? Coin base at CB dot ID?

Yeah, that really sounds like ENS technical language. Uh, I mean if you if you really unwrap what ENS can do at its core, I mean that that's pretty much it. So yeah, yeah, I, I, I kind of.

The language is very close.

And think about this. I'm gonna read this and I know it might not be the sexiest shit, but listen to this.

Somebody knows that it has been difficult. Wait, hold on.

I don't know why this came up. It's been difficult until now to implement the public key framework in a manner that can be utilized by aircraft and flight. Hyper Ledger allows for air traffic systems to have a public key infrastructure, which would be crucial for maintaining secure identities for communication. The report claims that one of the biggest advantages of public keys used by Hyperledger is that end users are not required to belong to any single organization or adhere 6 to any single c

Protocol making the platform much more interoperable.

That's fucking according to the paper of Communication Network powered by the blockchain would enable what's called their DS/B systems to meet or exceed the same level of privacy and security. Currently that's provided by radar based systems and NASA.

That's is it me that seems like.

Pretty fucking like.

I don't know. Maybe it is out there, but like reading that and understanding if you understand how a blockchain works, like and understanding what it does from a security or privacy standpoint, that's it.

That's what the theorem does.

Maybe we can get Nick on.

Right. Somebody has to reel me back. Reel me back. Really back. Alright, so now.

On the TV side, why would NASA want to get on TV show?

All of it.

Well, again, judging by that by their licensing, like the the license fine print with the NFT. Again, still speculation, right? So maybe more of V trying to get NASA just for the metaverse aspect. Gamification having that space exploration tie in. Keep in mind too, B has U.S. government stamps and NASA.

For the government, isn't it? So again, they already have one government body on the platform.

True.

Yeah, I mean.

What like?

Like for NASA to say, like, they wanna come into this, but, like, when I look at, like, the US Post Office, right, that's on TV, right? To me, it's like, and I know because, you know, we know this is a fact. Like the US Postal Service is literally like the fucking open wound of the United States government and the US federal budget. Like, it hemorrhages money every year. I think it loses something like 7 or $8 billion a year. Legit. Like $8 billion a year is what they're like. They're costing pe

They're on the platform right now. They're making bazillions of dollars with every drop. No, but this is something where if you know that they're stamp collectors, boom, you got stamp collectors. When you think about like momentous, like occasions or times in history, whether they were commemorated by stamps or whatever, it's like we landed on the fucking moon.

Right. Like those, like NASA, like these are like institutions that are core, at least in the United States, right, which is the majority of where V's user base is, I don't know. I like, I don't think that's so far of a reach.

Yeah, I I don't see it as that far reaching. Why wouldn't they?

And I don't think what they would come out with. Maybe it's a Rover. How dope. Like if they teased a Rover, those show, right? Just slapping a NASA fucking logo on there and you can now drive around with like a Mars Rover in the metaverse. What?

Yeah, gives a little bit more exposure and I think too um Nasas also teamed up with Epic games to enter the Metaverse as well. So I was just reading up on that a bit right now. Do you mind too NASA also has digital twins which I believe would also uses blockchain as well.

So they do have ties, obviously.

Explain that what do they have?

I think it's all digital twins. I've just been learning a bit more about it today. But you tying in a digital, digital asset to real world asset to mirror it and then you you build that digital asset first, you can break it down, study it augmented or virtual reality and then you can implement that into the physical world.

Ohh, so it's like build essentially like build the model, but you don't need to build the real world model first because it costs a lot. It's a lot more expensive. Build the digital twin and then model it after that.

Yes.

Hmm.

That's kind of dope. I didn't even know that was a term digital twin.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No shit.

OK.

Thanks dude.

What else did you talk about in this 46 minute video? Because I only I only got to the part of like NASA. What else do we go? What else did you go over?

No, no, just that one video. It's all just about um V and the Metaverse platform and what to expect from TV. But just like that, because I also look at through web three and other aspects, not always just V and then I try and bring the other aspects of web three and tie that in with TV. So my research that I do, it also comes up with digital twins. I've come across that appetizer style just to study it a bit more today. So I was doing some research on that and you know, it's not really tied in.

Could be at the moment, but there's the potential for it in the metaverse and for real world applications for infrastructure. So it's another part of against Web three which we're going to see coming out in the future.

Would be obviously very, very important for lots of infrastructures.

I love, I like, I love this man. I'm on the cavernous site right now. If y'all go to this thing like this is this looks fucking insane.

The builder platform cavernous empowers everyday enterprise, brand and creator to easily design, build and share their vision of a destination metaverse on the experience Internet with anyone, anywhere, on any device at scale.

Holy shit.

Yes.

If you guys go to this site, yeah, go ahead. So sorry.

And they say what dumb too. Like, they're very about the user experience and multiple users at the same time. So just having that interaction, that engagement, they do it for companies as well As for like consumer aspect of like like, you know, mass adoption ways. So they have it where you can have, you know, conference day within the metaverse through all the different devices from your smartphones to your laptops, computers, gaming devices and then be able to interact with one another in real

Also communicating as well through various aspects.

Yeah. And based off the demo that we watched, I mean the level of it's all about like the customer experience, right? Cause the level of customization from dimming the lights to changing the color on the carpet or the floor to the furniture, like this is all the stuff that like V is actually like, wow, this is so fucking cool.

Which limits of creation? The Metaverse is open.

And then just the time, the digital twin aspect with that too. So what they also offer is that they haven't got a partnership with Audi and they're highly digital twin of the car in there using Unreal Engine for the graphics and then you can customize the car really great detailing everything in the car, customizable and then you can eventually buy that car as well in real life.

Holy shit.

I see it. I'm looking at it right now. I'm gonna. I'm gonna post this on as a comment under the.

The pick the first pin tweet that I have at the top so you guys can see it.

It's a VRN cavern, so it's cavern dot US. I'm gonna tweet this now. Yeah, so you gotta do is just go open up the the pin tweet that I have up there.

Man with under shows a YouTube link. This is so fucking cool.

Yeah, you.

Wow, supercharged the immersive Internet. Yeah.

Even like what they were showing in the, UM, the Beavers demo, there's still like more to that as well. And then the video that I did, they were just showcasing the matrix demo. So have you ever seen that but matrix when the movie came out they had like a demo come out for Unreal Engine and you can play around with that and like a metaverse aspect. So what cavernous was doing there showing how easy it is to use their as a plugin that you can literally just drag and drop items using the cavernous

Like it uses dragging and dropping these items into the world.

Wow. Listen to this All Star fucking line up. And by the way, it confirms the BV partnership right here, right? It says. Trusted by leading innovative companies defining the metaverse around the world. Epic Games Unity NVIDIA A WS Meta V tailspin techsoft Lenovo ready player? Me.

Like this is. I mean these are powerhouses.

In the tech space.

Oh shit.

Dude, this is amazing. How did how did you find this?

Uh, well, what happened was at the V con events around DC or whatever, and they're showing up the V demo, the other Youtubers, superstar money, they were talking with the founder of cavernous on like the couch. They're they're like a part of the demo. And they were talking to them and said, Oh yeah, we're from governance. We're the ones who are building the platform for the Beavers. And they shared that on one of their videos. And then from there I just started researching them more that day ago

Development, seeing what they can offer. And then I was coming across like older videos too from like ohh, yeah, I don't think I've seen those ones. Yeah. So even before this one I did a few other videos where there's also different devices you can use within the cavernous platform. So there's the wearable body suit you can have, you can have like the gloves. You can have also a something called The Cave System, which is basically your holodeck and that's mostly used in.

Educational for educational purposes and I think like manufacturing, we could also use it for gamification and you can have it where like you're just, it's like a like a like a room and then tying up the holograms. I think there's also a holographic aspect to this as well. But with the way all this technology is going, the whole goal eventually is due to that, you know, Star Trek holodeck. So there is that possibility down the road being able to do that.

Holograms.

Yeah, yeah. And I did a video on that one too, and I was doing all this stuff. So it's been a good day just researching all this stuff. And then time and holograms in there too.

And different type of holograms too. There's like, like there's more technical definitions like what a real hologram is. But there's this one company, I think it's called light source and they have like true holograms. We have these wall panels and that these like like 10 million pixels or 8K I think is only like they used 10 billion pixels. And I think 8K is like, you know, 3,000,000 pixels, whatever it is and it's a huge hole wall display and then like like the the hologram is such high def de

That is such more realistic than the holograms that we currently see.

Give me a call if anybody's gonna sit here and try and tell me like ohh that we're so far away that tech doesn't exist. Kiss my ass. It doesn't exist. Like this tech has been around like some of this tech maybe not that not the one like specific ones that shows mentioning but something we think hasn't been like invented or innovated yet. I promise you like it has. Genuinely it has I hear. And not just off of what she was saying, but I'm in these rooms. I know these these people that have been do

Decades.

Literally on their Vimeo page right now. And I'm, I really wanna find unity into cavernous and new cameras. I want to find like a fucking video that's going to be like, holy shit, anything specific that you want to maybe push us towards or no step into immersive reality? Yeah.

Uh, yeah, I watched all those videos today. I couldn't really find anything else from there. But the audio and give that a watch is that gives you an idea about digital twins aspect just from the consumer aspect like collectibles. You can also use that for like high end fashion brands as well luxury just from that consumer aspect of being in the Metaverse and lots of different industries can use digital twins for you can use it in retail, healthcare, a lot of infrastructure and then a lot of the

For the graphics and then Unreal Engine 5.1 just came out I think like a week ago or so. And those graphics are even more impressive because they have a lot more detail in them too.

Wow. Yeah, be I saw Hyper V and then I saw that we were talking about.

Holy shit.

Ohh no wait. Hype wait.

What's this 1B?

Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me.

You know, this is so dope. Hold on, I wanna post this one. Now underneath that also, you know, this is fucking so crazy. This is so.

OK, so I got this. We got this. Let's comment on this one.

OK, there's that Vimeo.

Is go watch that video.

Right now this is nuts.

Um, I just, it's on the pin tweet at the top, that YouTube link. And they're they're they're all under the comments under one thread.

Go just open that page so you could see the different types of videos that you're able to actually watch on Vimeo. Holy crap.

One thing that's cool too with the cavern is they have a different languages built into the app or to their own software. So if you're communicating with other people in other parts of the world, different languages, if they're using like the whiteboard or text and in their native language that can like automatically translate to your language. So there's that stimulus real time communication when there's no barriers, we have to translate something.

Wow. And it's in real time, right? You said?

Yeah. Yeah. So he was mentioning in the demo. So there's no lag in that. And that's the whole point with their platform is that be able to do all this, you know, peer-to-peer with each other in real time seamlessly.

And that's obviously what TV is using for their V versus.

You know, I'm like, I'm enthralled in this right now. Has like the like, have you sent this to Millie or anybody like to they can see what this shit is or no?

I did the video.

I know you did the video, but like did they talk about it in spaces?

This is amazing.

Uh, not really. I mean kind of like just ties off with the the I covered all in the video. So I don't know if they talk about it in spaces lately. But again just it's really cool when you look at these metaverse and what you can do and I was even thinking about it today and really like digital twins doing that. But once these companies, they start buying land property in these meta verses and you can have you know they're going to have like shopping malls and going to be going in and then buying

For your real life where you buy the physical body, the digital item for, you know, your home accessory or your avatar and then you can get the actual physical one shipped as well. So lots of you know, just even the good like the commerce in these meta verses is going to be next level of what's going to be coming.

Yeah, I'm watching the digital twin like video now. Holy cow.

Oh my God, dude, this is crazy.

Yeah. And that's just for like the automotive industry aspect. You can, I was watching some more things today or you know tying off with the digital twins. You can use the haven't worth some digital twins for roads where they have the structure built and look for the city and then you can track if there's any like traffic delays in the physical world where that comes back in real time to the digital twin of that and then you can quickly solve that issue.

Wow.

So it's gonna, you know, this is gonna this is gonna change everything, man.

Yo get hype, I don't know if you saw this or if you're even looking right now or if you're even present, but if you're looking on the on these Vimeo links that I have up here there's a video of like a dragon like breathing fire that Shelly would probably. Ohh, Shelley's here Shelly, you would love this like.

Yeah, I heard you guys talking about some dragon drops in between here.

Yeah, yeah bro. Drag and drops. No drag and drops, but this is an actual fire breathing dragon that is. There's a video on here showing that it's literally titled life is coming to the metaverse. It's a creation engine that's already out right now. So. So Miss Queen of Dragons down there, you definitely, you might want to take a look at this. This is pretty fucking dope.

If you pin it up top, I don't see it anything up there yet.

Um, so look. Look at the pin tweet, the first one right where it says spaces, and there's the YouTube link. Everything is underneath that that thread. So click on that and then look at the comments underneath there. I put them all there but the Vimy it should be vimeo.com/C AVRNUS.

8.

Gotcha.

A WAVY you there?

I'm here, bro. I'm here, man.

I have a question for you. You're a gamer in this like out here in this, in in this metaverse. But I know some of the ones that you sent me have been more like pixelated and stuff like are these like like these crazy graphics and everything else? Like where do you see this? Like, is this like something that has legs that you think is or is it more like old school stuff, kind of like you do more like classic stuff? Or am I like, am I am I wrong?

No, no, I mean this is a new I I mean like I experienced this metaverse a year ago and the the gaming environment wasn't there so much. It was more a case of just being able to flex your ETH name with an avatar and maybe go into a an apartment or what they call the nightclub toshimi and they have a a live DJ and that's kind of was my first ever experience with my mooncat.

And pranks? He was in the party as well.

And then ever since they've, they've been having parties almost all year round and then more recently they've activated a lot of the game mechanics. So they've got a lot of mini games in there where when you go into the mini game, it's all about or whatever the gaming ecosystem is. Typically you're going to have to collect resources and then those resources would be used to craft a particular item and then that item would be what's considered.

To have value and maybe that item will remain within game as an in game item. Maybe that item becomes an NFT and then the conversations are whether that item becomes an NFT on Earth or whether it becomes an item on immutable X for example. But to give you an idea, over the Halloween period they had a Halloween event where you could earn candy, and over this event there were.

15,000 trades.

And many of those trades happen offline for Earth. So players were earning candying game and then they were crafting skins and mounts. And then for other players who maybe had didn't have time to grind in game, they were they were basically buying those in game items for ETH. And those trades were happening, you know live and unadulterated and there was a point in game where they had to adjust some of the economics.

Life where they could see. OK, maybe there's a problem with the candy, so let's pause trading on candy. And now the players, you know, completely had to adapt on the fly. So just to be part of this live trading ecosystem with players all over the world, a brand new experience for everyone. I mean, there were players from the Philippines that didn't have ENS names that grinded for hours and crafted some skins.

Sold them for Earth and then use that ETH to buy an apartment in game and then that was their first and FT and then as a result they also bought Enses. I mean that was the those were the kind of the two goals for many players, new players coming in.

That's dope.

Yeah, it's an amazing experience and it's got huge legs and I'd almost say the metaverse that's that allows or facilitates interoperability in the sense of that pixelated verse is really easy for other projects to integrate. So they can use the, they can use the spray and then integrate their collection. It's kind of really easy for them to do. So all of a sudden they're providing.

Huge value to their project where they didn't have a metaverse and now their whole communities coming into game. Maybe they own a large apartment or maybe a penthouse. They're going to token gate it and then they'll allow only their community members to craft items, try and give their community a competitive edge.

But the creator of that metaverse worldwide web, his name is Thomas Webb. He's, I mean, he's extremely well connected. He done a recent interview with GQ Magazine, Um, very well connected in music fashion. So, I mean, the connections are there. His father actually created outrun. So maybe for those old school kids who remember outrunning the arcade, I mean, his pups created outrun.

I'm happy to bear on. Uh, yeah, the obviously the kid.

The father who created our run, for me, it's kind of a no brainer bet and the evidence is already there with the global players. I think on active, they're getting 150 new players per day and and there were over 10,000 players over the Halloween period. So, and yeah, the numbers are there. I mean I was there participating and I could see it all.

That's so sick, dude. That's insane.

Wow, I'm looking at this even I'm listening to you talk and like all of these features are like here.

Built-in voice, video streaming and screen share intuitive tools allow your people to shape cavernous to their needs to find new insights, grow connections and shared experiences in the metaverse.

Like yeah I can tie it in, I can make a bazillion. I can make so many fucking cases for this. For ENS now this this could be the link right? This could be it right here. Seamless Co presence, context is everything. Bring more sense into the world with proven increases in retention. Learn by doing. Make connections by engaging in immersive multi person Co present experiences.

But developers can utilize the simple carnavas cavernous SDK.

Right, literally an SDK to program simulations that incorporate and visualize data from API calls.

Great third party technologies and merge the physical world to the digital realm.

Holy shit.

This is it, bro. Like, bring some AI into this and.

Oh my God.

Wow. Yeah, yeah. Fuck, dude. You guys, we're looking for the glue that holds everything together, you know? Jesus man, this may be it.

This might not be the glue, right, right, right. It might not be the glue, but it's a little sticky. It's a little sticky.

Uh, huh.

Holy shit.

Virtual private cloud on premises 2D3D types SDK.

Yeah, I'm looking all stuff here to save myself so.

Yeah man, they have a creation toolkit, a metaverse connector.

Streaming.

Instant access links for this is OK now here's the this is the one thing also so when we watch the demo right for V verse, one of the things that the CEO was sure to stress was you can watch all this. Rather, you can experience this on any device. So whether that's using an Oculus, whether that's on a web browser, whether that's on a fucking mobile device or an iPad or your iPhone.

Right, like you can ultimately interact.

With the metaverse, right? With the V verse using any of those devices, that's powerful shit that usually takes years to be able to accomplish. Like, oh, we're only at it on this. You can only use the headset now. And there's like, when you think about it and somebody correct me if I'm wrong, whoever has like an Oculus, right? Like, there's certain worlds like virtual worlds I know like horizon where like, I think it's the Oculus, and maybe like a web browser. There's no mobile, you can't look a

Don't quote me on that. I don't think so, but I have yet. And this is maybe just my lack of experience. But if anybody again wants to correct me, I've yet to see any type of Metaverse platform that's like, yeah.

It's like this Omni channel like solution where it's like it doesn't matter where you want to consume it, you can and it'll look good too.

And I think that's the biggest thing that for Web three we're all trying to look for is just to have that instant access of sort of a web 3 materialized world where it's, it's sort of this right here where we can just pop in and out. Or if we're at home sitting on our couch, we could put our Oculus on and pop it out. Or even if we're just on Twitter spaces here. But hey guys, we're in this space here. Just come check it out. You know, even right here, click the link, boom, pop in and out. And yo

OK.

This is nuts.

This is so cool.

Your sentence not making a lot of sense. What was he talking to?

And we keep changing engines pop up like you know this is a a brand new one to us again and you know all these other things we keep saying and this is just another engine that's been created to.

You know have a platform or a portal for a Web 3 version so.

Yeah, and honestly it's going to come down to honestly hype. When you think about this, it's.

Like, people kind of confuse these a lot of times, right? Where it's like, ohh, just because it's where we're talking about like the metaverse, that doesn't mean that like the blockchain and ENS doesn't really have a place. If anything, that almost makes the case for it, right? Because we were just talking about how NASA is implementing blockchain technology. And I think people need to get out of the mindset of OES. Is crypto not ENS? Is the Ethereum fucking blockchain? Like, that's what it is a

And that comes with a lot of benefits, a lot of benefits. And we were just talking about like satellite communication and this might go over a lot of people's heads for fucks sake. Like most of it goes over my head a lot of times, but when you can put it into context.

Man it. It starts to really make sense and the picture does become clearer.

You we know like just not NASA like I I think we touched on this quite a few times like even come down to a single person as far as the the technology we could put in within a blockchain of ourselves, diabetes, our health stuff, our cars we own you know our mortgage payment.

Man, you're talking about satellites and stuff. These people are already way past our tech, man. They already thought of this stuff and they blew it. They already got this stuff. They're crossing their T's and dotting their eyes. Right now, that's all they're.

Yeah, that makes sense to me.

That makes fucking sense to me.

Sorry about the noise outside. There's the Christmas parade today.

You know, this is I yeah, I wanna go down rabbit hole City right now. Like legit. But office hours might not be the best time for it because I feel like.

This went over most of our heads, but I think I got a place to start.

I was gonna say.

Yo, where the fuck are you with all this? Yeah.

Because it was cool with all that stuff too. That again he's crossed all devices. Looks like video game systems too, but you can also like to make it more immersive. You have the wearables too, so again you put on the body so you have the gloves, you have that ready player one style game. Like that mindset where you're fully immersive into these meta verses to experience it and with the Unreal Engine graphics to be so hyper realistic that you're also getting that haptic feedback.

And with the cavernous system they have those ties and where you can have the wearables with it and the full body suit and like, you know, things like that, so to make it even more realistic.

Yeah, I think most of us are waiting on that stuff. You know and and again that technology when it comes out though is gonna be like astronomically expensive. So I think it's more or less when more tech keeps building and you know more companies design and sort of make it affordable to the the house, you know, then we'll see a little more Web 3 access. But man, this technology with the the pressure sensitivity on your fingertips to the, you know shaking a hand or doing a pound, you could feel it

You know, but again, the new Oculus that just came out is about a $1500 price point. So, you know, most people aren't going to be able to afford this until tech evolves a little bit. And I, I love the fact that, you know, we're talking about it now because man, in like a year from now this tech is going to be here and we're all going to be in the engine and, you know, give them pounds to each other through a digital world, which is going to be dope as fuck.

What's good about that Tuesday, you have like all the major corporate, like the main ones, like Meta, Facebook, Apple, they're all building their headsets. Then you have these smaller companies that are going to be more competitive. You have to price it lower, and they may not. You know, maybe it's the same graphics, maybe it's a little bit less resolution, but you still have those other smaller companies building up these headsets. And then, like the body says, Tesla's been building the body su

Yeah.

Potty suit aspect? That's crazy.

Be adaptix.

OK. So I'm saying like to be able to like feel like you're swimming in water or to feel like you're in space in a in a suit or something, you know, that's that's what the web through everyone's imagining. And we can get to that point just by talking about it today. Yeah, damn, we'll be there sooner than we think.

Yeah man, this is fucking nuts.

OK, all right. I don't know if this was helpful for anybody, but it was for me. So without being too selfish, this was fucking incredible. I'm going to dig in this more and more and more.

Wow.

Sure. Where's my next step? Where do I go?

Uh, what are you looking for?

I mean anything and everything, I guess. I don't know. Send me down the rabbit hole. Like where was your next step after like you started looking at cavernous?

Uh, I started looking at digital twins, like all this stuff we've been talking about. Like I do, I do videos on this stuff. So it's like I I try and break it down as simple as I can and just, you know, like whatever I find, I try and share that. So, you know, cavernous came across out the metaverse. Wearable devices cover that, the holograms cover that and then maybe sometime in the road. But like just the digital twins aspect, I just really started looking into that this morning, spending, you

Like digital twins? Take a look at that, too.

We.

This is super impressive, yeah.

I looked at this a few weeks ago. Are you talking about cloning NFTS?

Um, I'm not sure if that that it's like it's the same terminology. I really just started looking at digital twins today. So whether it's the.

OK I remember a few weeks ago champ, Me and Dewey went down some rabbit holes where we found some shit about cloning NFT's about is this sort of like a sub domain to NFT's as far as?

What we can do like these got dropped into these board 8 yacht clubs and if you could think of it like to to clone an NFC and sub Domain AA board ape where you get a percentage like you commit one a month like I don't know it's just sort of popped in my head as far as the technology we're talking about. Is that possible you could sub domain and NT you think?

Out.

The sub domain NFT, absolutely. You could sub domain any NFT, but creating a digital clone, I think is what is what show was talking about. So on the digital side of it, right. So whether that's like a virtual, like a virtual asset, right, that's supposed to go in that you're building to go into the metaverse, right, whether it's like a couch or a character of an ape or like whatever. But proving ownership of that ape is what people have to do first, which is where the blockchain comes in. So ye

Correct. So so so now having like let's say like Eminem or Snoop have their cloner right and then I I sub domain my board a because I'm able to clone it to a fractional piece to where now in the in the world I have M&M's Board 8. But then I could fractionalize it down to clone it once a month and sort of you know breed these things. I don't know some shit I was thinking about would be the other day.

Weird shit man. But yeah, sorry to get you off topic there, but I'm thinking about.

No, no, no, no, no, bro. You're good. I think at this point, like, we gotta start using more of our imagination than not fucking less, bro, not less. Because if, like, I didn't even like half the shit that I'm seeing here on on the cavernous site, like, I had no fucking clue. But when you see it, then things start to make sense. You know what I'm saying? It starts to genuinely make sense to me. Oh, I know how this could be applicable. It's probably for this.

Right. I look, I don't know if I'm 100% right, but it seems logical. If I know the V ecosystem, I know the characters they have. I know the files that we hold. Like, I get it. Like I understand that part now it's just connecting the fucking now it's just connecting the dots.

So if this turns out to be, and I'm just going to say this right now, OK, I want to take a poll. That's what I want. I want to take a poll.

For everybody or anybody.

That does not.

If you don't think that like a V slash ENS connection.

Is possible?

Put a thumbs down.

Right now.

Are you going with this champ?

I just wanna see, I wanna take like public perception. So now if you think that there is a potential of there being a V ENS connection, thumbs up.

I'm kidding. Thumbs up 100%, man. Like.

Who as I see.

The communities and I go into spaces like restart and all these spaces with a dottie, you know, back cows Dottie, you know, everywhere I go there's a dot Ethan NS connection somewhere.

Underlying right.

You're Dave. That's a great point. Just blow up Dave. How come you're not talking to rise about this? He's all into that.

So.

He's got a daddy for him.

And.

Tell us.

Ohh, I have. I have talked to Reese about it in depth a little bit too and.

Yeah.

He knew about not eat a long time ago and he is the crypto person for V like when I interviewed him, that's all I really was worried about was his crypto aspect and where his mindset was about dot ETH. Like as soon as I saw Reese dot if I was like hey I see you got the Dottie and guess what there's only one dot Ethan is folder but I'm pretty sure this guy is a crypto maniac. That's this is what his game is on the back end for Vivi. You know this these the economy token, you know he's the one who

Pretty much branches it and I could fully feel that there is an ENS connection with restarting with it. And when we did talk about it, he was like sort of like, you know.

Uh, there's a whole other community here that you know, and I sort of send him my business card. He's like Ohh ENS influence her.

Like what does that mean now? So he's sort of like completely understands the whole ENS vibe. I don't really have to talk too much about it, but when we did, he was, he was game about ENS and understood the factors and and the utility behind what you know can come with having a V nation that let's say example, you know what I mean? Like that stuff is seriously connected and deep rooted to them and again it could come down to a transaction hash where it makes it so simple to you know.

Tokenize the community within their sub domain. You know that man. I I know there's a connection there, just starting with Reese.

So did you do like a public interview for that? Is it like, do you have a video of that?

Uh, we have an interview. Uh, it's chopped up. We talked for a good hour and a half, so we put out one release so far. And.

Pin that.

You know, we sort of put it out in a couple of seconds.

Yeah. There's your next move, Dave, right there.

Pin that, bro.

I'll get it up in a second. I'll get it up in a second. It's deep in the tweets, man. That shit was like 2 weeks ago. You know how we retweet everything?

Deep in the tweets, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I please read through the dope guy, man, he fully understands tokenomics. You know, he understands crypto. He came into V as the crypto person. Let's say, you know, any questions about the tokenomics, you would go to him, you know, you know Dan and David are more or less, you know the.

Eyes and ears of everything. But he runs the economy token side man. So I I I'll ask him in the background to come out here once and talk to us. You know, we're pretty good friends in the background. Just like I think everyone else. He loves the community and loves to talk about token.

Let's get him in here, bro. I would love to hear more from him as well.

Yeah, listen, like, I mean this is something where I mean I'm always bringing different opportunities to my guy Reese bro. Like he's the fucking. I think he's pro reasons the man. Like he just got done for those that know memona, right? Like Mona. I set up an interview where Mona had him in that's going to be airing actually next Thursday. So I'd keep an eye out for that one.

Um. And it's essentially like Mona's are like a like like she's a an accredited like journalist Slash reporter and it was a great interview. So like he's open to everything and everything.

Yeah.

2.5 trucks leaving work for Christmas.

And what's up?

Fuck am I speaking here? Shit.

Yeah, of clucking speaking here, fucker.

I don't know what you doing, what you doing? Come on now, removed you. Anyways, thank you for the influence. I'm much appreciated.

Yeah, like there's like he's. I know he's always done. I just got to give him a heads up. Homeboy is busy, busy, busy. You know what I mean? So yeah, at least we made the connection now, which is fucking dope as hell.

And you can easily tie that to your avatar in the new verse, and that adds to the V commerce aspect.

Say that again.

You could tie in the ENS domain to your avatar in the Beaver, so like your showroom. And I'm sure you could somehow put the ENS in there with your avatar. You're walking around and people could see your ENS domain.

Yeah, that's what this crazy fucking cool cat over here has been telling us this entire time. You wanna give us the dumbed down version? Cool cat with your hand up? Fucking cat never puts his hand down.

He never puts his hand down.

Worst cohost on the planet?

We're going to keep talking shit until he answers.

What the fuck? No. But that's what we was always talking about, right? Like, when you go into into these different virtual worlds, this is what these people are doing. They're flexing with these, like insane domain names, right? Like King this or queen that. Like like some of the names he was rattling off were crazy. Now they're for flex for now, cool, but they're not always going to be for flex. There's going to be like utility attached to these things, and they come with all of that utility th

And just thinking like.

You know, there's so yeah.

Sorry, like how easy that is for payment. So if you're in a diverse and you're you know you have a, you're doing a profession or job occupation and you want to get paid, you can just have your DNS domain attached to your avatar and get paid. And only because it's already linked up to your ENS domain.

Now you're talking. I was having this conversation yesterday with somebody who's having this conversation with yesterday.

Were you right where it was like you know like you can like for the like the easiest use case that we talk about right. That's going to be probably the driving force behind everything of of how we're going to get this thing adopted is going to be human readable while it address and the transfer of money. If you're able to transfer crypto from one wallet to another. This is why every fucking V user, right needs to be familiar with this shit and if you're not, you need to get familiar with it, rig

For that, in Metaverse asset, what do I do? Well, you already have your your ENS domain tied.

To your ultimately to your avatar, all you gotta do is just go in and just transfer it. Like what's the name? And you're literally seeing it on the avatar above you.

You just literally go into your app, you open it up and you send the money. You send your Omni token. It's an Ethereum token, yeah.

Do you think there's anything around there like obviously vivia comedy is very adamant about KYC, AML and they're very forward with that. Do you see any roadblocks, momentum, ENS domains in with the V versus ecosystem?

That's a great point, bro. Because of the of the decentralized nature of it, there could be a ton of fucking roadblocks, right? But I think what ENS can do because when I look at the actual Coinbase integration, right? Like there can be so many different versions of it that it's like you can create a custom solution, right? Like nobody on Coinbase knows or neither do. I like how decentralized is that domain name that you get from fucking Coinbase CB dot ID?

I have no fucking clue. Yo Benny. What's good my brother?

Shalom. What's up?

Shalom.

I.

Chilling, bro, was good.

I saw everybody exactly which I've been saying for the past.

2 to 5 minutes that I've been in here so far is exactly how I imagined. Again this would work inside of the VM verse ENS being like visible to our avatars and connected to our wallets and just it being that seamless. Here's the question I have Dave has has David actually.

Even contemplated that idea has has that idea been presented to him, or has he confirmed that that's exactly what will be happening? How, what, what? What's the, what's the status on his approval of that?

Because it it I I 100% agree with the idea.

Go for it, Blake. Yeah.

I would.

But um, has that even crossed Davidson mind or had what has he had? Has he had much commentary to that?

I would think yes. I don't want to speculate again but with Reese having a dot E that's a four digit, you know, that's a four digit to Renew Freeman and renewing the flex hard, he wears it every day and he wears a proud and I wouldn't think, you know with the observations of Dan and David, you know, hey, what's that dot eat next to your name.

You know that's a tough question to ask anybody and if these guys even think about having a sub domain for us within the the VB verse it would be optimal because the transparency now is key you know that's that's what we all live for is the transparency and to have lessons dot V as a sub domain. Just having my my main as a sub domain now the potential for anything happens I can you know what even we're talking about but I would honestly think like.

There's no like they're layer 2, they're into, you know, Reese's into the token man. Like he knows about layer twos and he that's what he has to, he has to let these guys know about ENS, I mean.

What gate height? That's that's logical to us soon.

I guess.

101 hundred.

I it's logical to assume at the same time.

Uh, huh.

We have to be clear and because every time something like that is asked of David, well, we got to think about regulation and everything is so sensitive with laws and this. And you know I'm saying it's always that type of rhetoric in order to push something through and just because Reese have it, I'm pretty sure they have probably had a conversation or two about it and.

I mean, that's just like me thinking, you know, Dave?

Yep.

You know, African and Jeremy Peterborough, they all, you know, they took a picture together, but I don't mean Pokémon coming to the platform, even though it screams Pokémon, you know, like.

Yeah, I would. I would think if they have the conversation like most of us, maybe like one out of five of us do appreciate the dotties and then maybe we do hear it and then sort of put it to the back burner until we need it possibly. Or maybe, you know, when the time is right, it gets presented and then you talk about the conversation. Maybe they do know about it and maybe they don't. But you know, honestly I think the conversation is struck, you know, just through the community here as far as,

You know that, you know, I know they see this type of stuff which makes it peak in interest and then maybe it's just a matter of time now as far as pitching it and, you know, V Nation or the next community member or, you know, reset something and all this stuff. It's just maybe a web effect and time factor now. But man, I would have to, you know.

I would have to think just as a business, you know, the percentage of savings and transparency that can happen with ENS and a domain for a company like that. Even Disney or any conglomerate, Coca-Cola, Budweiser, down to my mom and pop store right here.

Is it's huge and, and again I don't want to assume just like any and speculate but man with Reese Reese coming in strong with a dottie if I would have to think they'd talk about this year right. So tough. It's such a good question though.

Perfect. And that that definitely will be one of the next questions I'll ask if I ever, you know, get a chance to have a.

A second to be able to put a bug in their ear.

You know, maybe, but maybe Dave have a better eloquence being more seasoned in the NS.

OK.

You know feels to to ask such a question and be able to deliver it or more take fashion.

You know, I'd literally just tweet the fuck out of it.

I can, I can word it. I can word it. OK like, but I just want like David, I don't think it's ever interacted with any one of my tweets, maybe one or two, right? So if there's just a reaction to something, then it's like go you hit kind of like a nerve. But I would. Yeah, I'll put that. I'll put out a tweet, no fucking problem to see if we can get some sort of like a response or anything. And I'll go to the back channels too, to see if there's anything kind of cracking. But I'm literally on Ether

Of.

Yeah TV digital collectibles dot E Someone owns that, that's that's traded some nice value V digital TV collectibles. Someone owns a nice like wallet. Restart ETH one name in there.

Reasons, that one, yeah.

Yeah.

I'd rather ask them direct, light. I mean, David, David was just on the Twitter space last night or the night before that.

Yeah, so that's why, that's why, that's why I had this title space. Benny was cause what he said yesterday and they narrowed it down between a keel from G media and.

V Meister. Then you've narrowed it down to NASA.

And BTS like the the K pop band and ultimately akeel came to the conclusion he was like it's David said brand. So it's gotta be NASA. So we spent the first half of this whole thing today talking about is there a link to NASA and NSF and I heard like I heard from someone like legitimately that NASA was inquiring or was looking to buy like the three or the four rocket emoji dot ethnic.

So we got a bunch of speculative hearsay, right? No smoking gun. Far from it. But there's pieces, and those pieces somehow make sense. NASA has implemented Hyperledger, right? In terms of blockchain.

They're running their own private blockchain, like there's things here that make sense.

Lots of them.

Damn.

Just keep your eyes open.

That's it. Keep the eyes open.

Yeah, big moves, big moves.

Yeah, man.

You know, like I was saying Dave earlier, ENS has not really talked much into spaces. I think 1 main reason why is ignorant. You know what I mean?

Not a lot of people are open about it.

Yeah.

Yes I will DM you the moment that this ENS questions can be asked because Benny asked a great question and and at the end of the day I I just feel like it's not talked enough in the dev spaces. You know what I mean and and the main reason why like I said is ignorance. You know what I mean? Well when when tone drops ENS.

And that's Dave, bro. And you know, toasting, you're hosting down the spaces, you know, so I'll just say that right away.

Well, I mean, I guess right now.

I've turned everybody off to you. Like, man, we don't wanna hear NS anymore. Yeah, what's up, any?

Oh, I would say even right now it's probably not talked about enough because it's not being, it's not as relevant in a sense that it's not being used right now, right now, right now, right. Like it's not.

But check it out, Benny.

Ohh, but that down the road I can definitely see because I want to have a, you know, I told David about having, you know, a business inside the V verse and you know, I'm definitely thinking about just having the DNS test to the business. So everything can just run through that. And I mean it, it it just really, I don't know if I don't know if I'm oversimplifying it or it can literally just be that simple.

Simple enough. They're good.

No. So here's the check it out, Benny. Like you're 100% right. You're 100% right, Benny. But here's the thing. The moment that you're 100% right is the moment that we're 100% quote, UN quote late because that's what it becomes adopted. And then everyone here who understands EMS.

Is ahead of the game and and like me and Dave has kind of talked about it is is is when you're right is the moment that all of the ANS stuff is already gone because it's already happened you know what I mean? So so as much as you're right I agree with you. Like thanks for Dave for talking about it for screaming about conspiracy and then when it comes real becomes real you know and and if it if it never happens it's OK just days.

Hey.

Yeah, he's right. Like, it's like, yeah, Dave was the one that said, oh, we weren't gonna get a poster that we were gonna get like a dinosaur that came out of the Jurassic Park shirt, which still would have been fucking cool, by the way. Like, that would have been fucking dope as hell. I don't wanna fucking hear it. That was a good conspiracy theory. It wasn't even conspiracy. But whatever. We got posters. What else? But this shit has legs.

This shit has legs. You can't tell me no.

And even if it doesn't, let's fucking make it. Let's give it legs, you know what I mean? Like, what's the worst? Like, this isn't like a play where it's like, ohh, we're shilling, So what the fuck are we chilling? Like, we either own a bunch of fucking domains or we own a bunch of fucking TV shit. So it's like, yeah, let's give it because it makes business sense.

Well, within within the V World, how would we rent stores out? Like how would we incorporate what we talk about? Like there's no other way really except having really an enterprise that you could build through possibly an ENS, right? I mean how else are we going to do is we can't we have to have a sub domain within the V verse to be able to sell or rent anything, right? I mean I don't know, I'm just so fucking.

Yeah, there used to be a platform, right? You're right.

There needs to be a platform.

Meta, talk to me.

Yeah. How you going guys? Yeah, I just got just got off the phone to Elon and he says it's not SpaceX. So.

All right.

Thank goodness.

NASA confirmed.

Um, yeah, as cross that one off the list, but yeah.

Well, keep me posted so it's all good, alright?

Good. Look, thanks for utilizing those favors, man. I know it wasn't easy. I appreciate you, bro.

Anytime. Anytime.

So nonchalant fancy motherfucker. All of a sudden he sells a bunch of art pieces now looking at whole bougie and shit. Alright, don't forget about the little people, bro.

You know me. I know my roots and my roots.

Can you can you call in a favor to get WAVY to put his fucking hand down? That cat is fucking driving me nuts.

Well, let's just say I'm a black belt in Photoshop, so I could. Let's let's create the WAVY PFP with his hand down or two hands up PFP and we all rock it, and then he'll look like the odd one out.

Yeah.

This is it.

Yeah, exactly. It's like the ultimate troll. He accepts the co-host invite, watches the World Cup, doesn't answer any fucking questions, goes silent and he keeps his fucking hand up the whole time.

These chains, baby.

I don't even know who you are anymore.

Cool cat.

Alright. Conspiracy theory logged. I like it. Honestly. We're going out on this one. That's it. No, no, we're not gonna go any further. We're gonna go out on this note. And I want the fucking questions to wrap. I wanna. I want all this to rattle around in every person's brain for the rest of the day, for the rest of the week. And then he please talk about it in spaces. Nas, please talk about it in spaces. Shit, you know, me and hyper definitely going to be talking about this shit and fucking me

Don't show amazing fucking video, WAVY. For the first time in my life, I'm gonna say you were a useless cohost. I absolutely useless at all. But I hope Spain one, man. I hope you won your pool. But you better against yourself, bro. He's like, oh, I want Spain, but on the other side I want this one. I don't even know what he was doing. I don't think he knows what he's doing. I love you anyway, buddy. And meta. Good looks on the Elon call, big shot. Thanks for coming to visit us, Saber man. You kn

Dope. Ass space. Are we doing that on a weekly basis from now on? What do you say Sunday mornings?

Yeah, yeah, of course. Every every Sunday on like half four GMT.

My man, that shit was a dope ass space. 830 Pacific Time 11:30 Eastern Time. You. I'm gonna go back and listen to this recording later on and be like, what the fuck do we talk about and shout out to the boy Mofo dot E good shit Titan. Alright kids, I'll see you in space a little bit later today.