Yes, yes, yes. Once again, from 9 to 11 you are tuned into the Web 3 water cooler and your host Mr Wonderful.

And what we do, we talk web three, we talk to Metaverse, we talk crypto currencies.

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And yes, blim.

Aguan.

And.

I think we in episode.

Not sure, this could be episode 4.

But, you know, we moving and grooving and.

Yeah, we just building something right on.

That's what we're building.

Sure, for a fight with the one missing.

I think it's 4.

Yeah, we're on episode 4 and.

You know, I'm just enjoying it and.

You know, liking what we build in and meeting some real interesting people as we as we move through the space and you know.

Many people will be like, why would we listen to them, right? There's a few people that have been in this space longer than us. There's people that, you know, actually have projects out there.

But we just the voice of right? I'm, I I tell people I like.

I'm the mass audience, right? If you got me, they coming.

Well, that's no problem. Talk to me.

Cortana today in Web 3.

Is there?

Webtree Web three well.

Coming.

It was basically like a chill day for me.

Heard you was mentally so Bitcoin. Tell us about it.

Maintain like that.

Huh.

I got some I got got got off for some free meeting this morning but it wasn't really something where resignated with me too much so never really fell I thought. But yeah my my learning the different niches cause the story.

Killing and comic.

Comic book type of Vibe is a little nice here. See a lot of that.

And stuff, but I see where um.

You posted something in the group about um.

Go before anybody comes here. How do I post things like to the board? Like how do I do that?

OK, so if you go in the post itself.

Any post?

Any post here?

Alright, hold on. Like what about the stuff I just said? Like, how do I post that? Or I can't post that?

If you post, you have to tweet it first.

And then that that download looking button beside the heart.

The arrow.

Six song.

So.

Uh.

Timber under the rule board to Amadora rule board. You can write out a couple rules. I'm gonna do art and we can post it in the jumbo too.

Say it and then we'll see. Tim.

Didn't push through with it so.

Yo y'all can hear me.

Hmm.

Loud and clear.

The old type we typing in, we had the empire down. I'm here with my friend. I don't know her name, but she has a nice smile, right? And she has a project, so she wants to shout out her project right now.

Hello. Ever.

OK hello everyone, my name is Wade per. Nice to meet you all. We have a project which is a research podcast focusing in Web 3 and metaphors. Our name is meta potatoes.

Welcome to follow us on Twitter. I follow y'all already. OK, I know about the metal potatoes.

That's how we connected. But she was like, yeah, I got a project called Metal Potatoes. And I'm like, yeah, I love potatoes.

Uh, with the.

Well, so we had the empire down right? Now I might just walk around and interview some people. How y'all feel about this.

Let's go.

Go.

Like, come on, let's do it. Let's have fun baby. I will get over there. How is it?

We got our filled.

Yes, Sir, like all that sold knowledge and I real doing.

Hello Phil, journalists out there. Knowledge is in the field, right and we are holding it down at the base.

He is there.

Yeah. So knowledge is going to be bringing some people by that has projects while we're live here.

Alright, so tell me how to do that thing again.

A post. I tweeted it.

OK OK so the that that I can with arrow that that resemble like a download button beside the heart.

Like the scissors?

Is it like like a scissors?

They look like something to me.

Click it the one that that's no I'm the one that's to the right of the art.

They look like two people. No, not that one.

You know that one.

I'm gonna find another person.

OK.

Say the one with the arrow.

I'm just waiting for this conversation.

Alright, it's four, it's four, it's four things at the bottom, right?

Hmm.

Is that like the two people?

The heart, the other thing.

Ohh no, I'm not seeing that. I'm seeing the.

Comment the repost the heart and the one with the arrow.

You already made the tweet.

Ohm yeah.

Tweet it out first.

I tweeted it out on my page page.

Hold on. So when I go on your page, let me go on your page real quick.

Do the interview real quick, our first knowledge.

No, no, he said. He gonna try to find some more people.

OK, Ohh yes miss doing the full. OK. So when you go on your page you say will you be getting a bird wallet? Alright, I'm seeing the comment.

Right.

They retweet the art, right?

Hmm.

Yeah.

And then and then that icon like a the arrow going up.

Yeah.

Go and see.

That, that, press that one and then you go and see what, 3 water cooler at the top.

So press that one.

So it says share tweet and it says your space. So I put what Myspace.

Yeah.

Got it, sweetheart, in your space. Got it.

Yeah.

Because mine said Webtree water cooler, so I guess yours cause you cause you're the host.

There you go, it's there.

Y'all, but will you be getting a bird wallet, buddy?

I already got it. Well, it didn't have a Coinbase.

What? I get what you're saying, of course. Why not?

Why not?

Test it out, of course.

Maybe in a different account, sorry. So maybe in a different account. But test it out. Showed up to eight 8 ball eggs.

Blessings. Thanks for tuning into the Web 3 water cooler. This is blim.

Acronym for Best Lifestyle, Embracing morals but through your mic. This is an open space. You're free to come introduce yourself, big bro.

Let me see news discord soon notification and do eggs spoil? Of course. Exporail.

Was that a fan?

So I have another speaker. I'm gonna put him on the on the on the microphone right now.

OK. Go ahead.

Yes, please do.

Did he know? How's everybody going?

How you doing, brother?

You can't hear if they talk. Alright, good. This river bends. I'm out here maintaining the elevation, learning more about cyber security. We are out here. I hope everybody's having a good night. God bless.

River bands.

Shout out to you riverbeds. Yes, Sir.

The optos it was valid. It was I.

OK, OK. OK.

It was a good little event for me.

OK, see and go find some more projects to to get a piece of the web tree water cola live recording session.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me find another project. It's just everybody's conversation. Hold on one second.

OK, in the meantime, it bought eggs.

I mean, we have someone right now, if 8 ball could tell us about that.

If you don't mind telling us about that.

That 8 balls lab collection would love to hear about it.

Yeah, most definitely. Guys, thank you for having me up here, you know, giving me a platform just to talk about my collection. But yeah, we're 8 ball labs. First collection is going to be 8 ball eggs. So we got three main goals for this project. The first one obviously is to mint out, is it? It is a free mint, so to mint out. Second one is to really engage with the community. And the third one with eight ball eggs, we're going to have a storyline, so they're going to be episode one, episode 2, t

So what we're really trying to do is we want to actually have a animated videos go with every episode. So the first one is probably gonna be like 15 seconds. We're like a decent animation, but as our project grows, so will our animation quality. So episode one might be 15 seconds, episode 2 might be 30 seconds, you know, Episode 3 might have better quality production, you know. So we're just trying to take a step by step. It is a freeman, it's a 3 freeman and then you get.

Uh, and?

It's four to four unlockable content, right. And I'm not gonna go too in depth about the unlockable content just because we're not sure, but we don't really wanna share that information yet. So yeah, we're basically taking a risk. You know, we're taking a chance in our community that they'll, you know, come out and, you know, mint out with us and and diamond hand, that's diamond hand are, are, are, are, are art, you know what I mean? So.

With that, you know, we expect anyone that does see our vision, they'll they'll take that chance and take that, grab that 4th egg, you know, and support the community. And yeah, that's just a better project right there.

We have another project I'm about to shout out. He's gonna start speaking in a second, alright?

No problem, mom. Hey boy, how long you been working on this project? And when you expect to?

When's your mandate? Or or or if you haven't rented already?

So we've been, uh, you know, promoting for a week now. We don't have a mint day. And that's just because we're still, you know, trying to engage with the community, you know, we're still trying to build from the ground up. We're still actually working on the art right now as we speak. So we're just trying to, you know, let her existence be known.

But yeah, we don't have a date yet. But you know as as we we continue this adventure you know, we're gonna you know keep everybody updated. We have a group chat right now where we're giving out all the information if anybody is interested in joining that. With that being said, we're also going to create a discord. So once we start getting that discord up and running, you know, that's when we're really going to start thinking about actually a mint day and stuff like that. We're going to go artwor

Artwork phase and this actually right here this PFP just concept art. So this was the very first art piece that was given to us by our artist when we were like 8 ball egg. This is what they came up in their head. So now it's our turn to really go ahead and tell them and be like hey so this is actually how it's supposed to look you know and tweak up you know all the things that really needs tweaking. So yeah this is just concept art. It's just mostly showing our process and how we're progressing

In the project.

They had knowledge.

We've got knowledge in the IRL underground at the Empire doll.

It looks like he has a project to share someone.

As a project knowledge.

Are we coming through on your side?

Can you hear us? Do you still have your knowledge?

OK, looks like naledge is having some technical.

Difficulties there is ending up in the chat here.

No, no, no technical difficulties. I'm actually here with my friend right now and he's gonna tell you guys what he does. Hi, this is David Tarditi from Cerdic. I was here at the Empire Dao and I just gave a cool talk on Aptos, Movement Solidity. We work on blockchain security. Thanks. Hope you all have a great evening.

Hey, Abel, as a founder, could you let us know?

Ohh.

What things were harder than you thought? And and and and and what what? What are some of the things that was easier than you thought?

Uh, one thing that was harder than I thought. I'll, I'll, I'll say this today. I've example from today. So today you know.

You know, I woke up, you know, I've seen a few posts, you know, people, you know, trying to get, you know, into the group chat and stuff like that. So I started working on it. Boom. I started getting, you know, back-to-back to back follower. Hey, I wanted to join the group chat. I wanted to join the group chat. So I started seeing that there was like a fluctuation, like there was a lot of people, you know, starting to hit us up. So boom, I I entered the I entered into a space, you know, let ever

Someone alpha called it already, you gotta say. So I'm in this space not only am I, you know, am I am I, you know, answering these questions but I'm also out here adding people into the group chat with the same time, you know, I want people to know more about my culture as a project. You know I'm saying. And the fact that we are entertainment project, you get I'm saying. So I'm not just trying to show the whole time where all these new people are coming in and they think it's just a giant show s

Of this project. So, so I ended up freestyling, you know, for the, for the whole, for the whole space as well. So I was, I was out here you know adding people to the, the group chat, answering questions, freestyling and it felt like you know, like I had you know.

Three minds all at once are like 6 arms you get what I'm saying so that that was a little harder than that I expected you get I'm saying it's just more about facilitation and you know just it really you know understanding who needs to do what actually rich devil over here he's my cofounder. He just happened to be at work while while all this happened you get I'm saying. So I had to hold it down for him I something easy.

That I thought would have been a little bit harder. It's just.

You know, honestly engaging with the community, you know what I mean? It's it's it's been really easy. It's been it's been fun. A lot of people are excited. You get, I'm saying like I I didn't think, you know people would accept 8 ball eggs the way that they did.

Especially today when everybody just pulled up like that someone had already alpha called and I think really what it is is that you know people really just fuck with you know me in general and and enrich jet rich dev over here you know what I mean? Like we've been like a lot of people in our community we've been in many projects together you get I'm saying so there's already a level of trust but you know I think that they you know they like this idea of it being entertainment it being you know l

Oriented. Freestyle oriented like the spaces you like being hype and and and the fact that you know we're just trying to have like a open mic type of project where anyone can just come up and and and speak to the founder and here's my ideas. Here's what I think you could do better. Here's here's how you should implement this. You know what I'm saying? And this is what I don't like about that. You know I'm saying like I'll take I'll take everything to the chin, you know what I mean? I went to a d

My, my, my elevator pitch, I guess what you call it. And you know, I'm trying to under promise and over deliver again. So, so I was under promise and they're out here like, hey.

Yeah. We're not really feeling you. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't really understand it. I don't see the vision you get. I'm saying it's like I get that. But if I come out here and I'm tell you, hey, I'm, I'm gonna get an, you know, this is entertainment project. Yeah, I'm going to have, you know, 3D videos and and and and and we're going to have a contract with Netflix and Comedy Central. You get what I'm saying? Now I'm just doing the most, you know, I mean so they really were looking

Everything. You get what I'm saying. And I'm more short, short term at this particular moment in time. You know, in this project, probably closer to Mint date.

Will be more long term, but right now it's really short term getting us minted out, getting you know the art, the contract, the website set up, just the the, the, the meat and potatoes of of a good project you get. I'm saying that's what we're really focused on at the moment.

And and what do you guys think is going to be right because like I preach to people I'm differentiation is very big So what what what would you say is the the 8 ball eggs differentiation or or unique selling proposition?

So the community and and the founders. So I think you know, I think we're, we're unique. I think the community is unique. I think the vibe in itself we're very tight with the music NFT community and I feel like you know, every community is tight but I feel like you know when it comes to the music community you know, it's just, it's just a little bit tighter and that just because of the emotional aspect of of of the music and stuff like that people just you know I feel like a lot tighter. So I th

Really differentiates us, uh, number one and us being artists #2. I think, you know, just this.

This, uh, this storyline with the videos, you know what I mean? Like, this is this is a playbook straight from from goblins, you know what I mean? Except we're just trying to, you know, innovate a little bit and try to, you know, step it up and take it to the next level. You get what I'm saying. So if you notice goblins, they were marketing geniuses, you know, like every two weeks they'd have a new piece of artwork, you know, to engage with the community and pique the interest. You get what I'm

And, you know, keeping the community engaged. But.

It's really two birds with one stone because, yes, there's that entertainment side of it, but then there's also the underlying side of it, which is the marketing side of it. I was just talking to a videographer and he's telling me, yeah, just drop something on YouTube and it got 50,000 views. That's 50,000 eyes you get. I'm saying. So if you got something interesting with some good entertainment in it, you get what I mean. And 50, I'm not going to say 50,000, but a whole bunch of people you like

Of hey, follow this project, you get what I'm saying? So it felt like it was we were hitting two birds with one stone with just one action. Again, what I'm saying? So.

You know, it's it's it's a lot more efficient and I don't see a lot of projects. They're they're not that efficient. You know, a lot of projects, it seems like either they just drop that shit. Yeah, they might mint out, but then that's it. Or they drop that shit, shit becomes a success. You gotta understand. And then they're out here with the thumbs up, they ass and like all right. What's the what's the next move? Now, bro, you should have thought of that. You know, before you're meant you get,

Now what are you gonna do? Now if you were, if you planned accordingly and you had this ship mapped out, you know, saying you would have known.

You would have known what to do right after and and the fact that you didn't have have it mapped out you know already makes me question you because how how much faith did you have in it already. You get what I'm saying like were you 100% down or you just like 70% down and now that it's tooken off, you know you you ride in the way, you know what I mean? And me and Rich Dev over here like we're, we like.

I'm 100% confident. I can only speak for myself if you get what I'm saying. But if I were to talk, speak for Rich Dev as well, I would say he's, you know, 99.9% confident. You know what I mean? But you know, I'll let him speak for that and confirm the 100. You know what I mean? But uh, yeah.

Rich Dev Yeah Steve joined the convo with us. Yes my brother I'm Mr wonderful he's my co-host blaming knowledge he been running this space for about a month. Just just get in the mood of the community. Nothing crazy right. I'm not like you said I'm not here to sell nobody dreams right. We just here to try to build something and build with people that's building and they boy you definitely hitting it on the money right under promise and over deliver right. But and you just seemed it right because

Some of these people wanna be lied to, right? They want you to tell them that you about to bring them to the top of the Empire State Building, right? I I don't. I don't get it right. Somebody's letting you know. Yo this is what we're doing of course on your on your piece of paper between you and rich I'm pretty sure the ideas is in space right now what you guys are working on. But when you speak into people, right, you just want to keep it right? Chill, right? Same way I am with things, right? I

At the beginning of the event, my people will tell you I'm like, I just hope we have a good event. I don't go tell nobody I'm gonna have the best event happening. And then when they turn out good, you're like, all right, boom, it was a good event. So it seems like in this space when you try to, people don't want the honesty they want to they want you to embellish, right, what you're doing. But you know it's good to just write keep your principles and say now I know what we have in the works but

Yeah, we gonna hit these benchmarks and and and and right at milestones at our pace instead of telling y'all we bought the right. Like you said Netflix is coming in and we got the deal lined up where it's right like but I'm telling you it's it's it's weird, but a lot of people in this space want you to like embellish what you got going on.

Right. And honestly that's that's you know like there are those people that but that's actually the people we're trying to avoid. We really like this, this idea that we have the strategy behind this project. It really you know requires some you know like strong community members and we're looking for the collections 8888, but we're really looking for 2222 unique holders you know what I mean? And and we want those unique holders to really be you know Diamond hands, you know.

And and for that for that reason you know because once you start you know overpromising telling these people whatever. Yeah they might you know copy it or whatever but then those are the first people to to paper hand you get what I mean we're really just trying to you know separate the two the diamond hands and the paper hands and and and really just read them out and and and keep the diamond hands and really like work. Eventually this is going to be an exclusive project we're going to take ours

You know, we're gonna we're gonna be careful of who we add into our community. You get what I'm saying? So we don't want to ever over flood our market, you know what I mean? Like that's that's something that I feel like a lot of projects do lately. You know what I mean? Like they just over flood the market, you know, with too much shit, you know what I mean? And then their community loses hope because then it's like, well, everybody can get this shit. And I've been loyal this whole time, but if

Why it wouldn't be a success, you know what I mean?

Um, how did you guys decide on the, the, the, the number?

The amount of the size of the collection.

Uh, yes. So just, uh, respect out of the 8 ball 8888, right. But we also wanted it to be a bigger collection and, and the reason for that is, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you know, the the, the bigger the collection, the better chance that it'll go on platforms like, you know, like that actually advertise that hey, this is mint thing now, so for example gem XYZ, you know what I mean?

Maybe if you're a collection of 2000, you won't, you won't get on at Gem XYZ. It won't even notify other holders. But if it's a collection of 8000, a lot of people will probably see it on Gem XYZ, see that there are whitelist minting or whatever. And then, you know, other people are minting and, you know, FOMO in and and and and and and and and mint as well. You get what I'm saying. So that was the strategy behind having it a higher number because we could have done 4444 or whatever you get. I'm

But.

But that's where the 2222 unique coders come in because we're given you know the men is 3 for free and then that fourth one is to you know for for the ones that really believe in the project and want to support so they can you know see the progression of this of this project they'll cop that fourth one and you know 8888 with the four had you know that's that's 2002.

122 unique cultures.

Ohh.

Yeah, so you know there's there's more to that process but you know that's just.

Much as a strategy that, you know, we want to put out there right now, yeah.

And and with all the marketplaces and blockchains right on.

I'm figuring you're gonna be building on Eve.

Yeah.

Alright, so yes, perfect, right? And we all see right? We all deep into the community. We see people building on numerous blockchains. Could you let us know like why you why you guys decided to, you know what we're gonna build on this Ethereum blockchain.

Honestly, because the first one that I've ever been on, one is the one. I know you get what I'm saying. It wouldn't make sense to make my first project in Solana, and I've never invested in Solana. You know, I'm saying so Ethereum, just because it's closer to home, it's a bigger platform. Obviously everybody knows etherium, you know, not everyone might be.

Big on Solano you get, I'm saying or or whatever you got. I mean, um, but yeah, really just, you know, it's more personal than anything just because we're more familiar with it.

No, I that's what I'll be trying to let people know. I see people building on right crawling you entitled to build wherever you want to build but it's like.

They're telling people that if they collection was on, EI would have already had one. Because I'm just like you. I'm familiar with it, right? And you're familiar to the point where you like it, right, but you still don't know the whole etherium network, right? So to just start moving through and playing on blockchains, I came in on this one. I trusted. I like it. I like everything they talk about, everything they're doing. So yeah, I definitely agree with you staying somewhere you're familiar in

Correct.

Right be the first many people want to be the first that got that did it on Crow and the first that did it here. And I look at it right if if if we had an all out had a chance and we all had merch. I want to be in Macy's right. So yes I do definitely here why are you building on the therian bloodshed.

Right. Most definite.

Yeah, man. I mean, yeah, like, like I said.

Double bridge stuff. If you want to jump in here, please do. We're just kicking it. I love when I'm in the room with founders because, you know, even if you're not, have found it now, I'm pretty sure a lot of us are thinking about projects and it's just good to get perspective from people that's actually, you know, putting the boat in the water.

Yeah, definitely, man. Thank you for having me. So just wanted to touch on a little, a little thing.

I know, they both said.

We right now we have a a like a short term, short term goal. Our thought process is short term right now.

But it it's definitely a long term goal. So what we have is is a ball labs which is the the vision and then there's a ball eggs which is a collection. So the 8 ball labs.

We want to create storytelling.

Through NFT's and we want to put it on the blockchain and create a story.

An evolutionary story in each series. For instance, the first series is going to be.

58 ball 8 so we plan on once we roll all that out, we then plan on.

On our next story, so we, we, our long-term goal is longevity. We're looking, we've like he was saying, we're already looking down the line. We, we, we're seeing.

Steps ahead cause like like you know and everybody else in here knows is there's a lot of people that are one track minded. They only see one one thing and they accomplish that and they don't know what's next.

We're trying to.

Break that mold.

And attacking a different way, which storytelling allows you to, because you have to put the story together.

In that story, you're able to build sections on the blockchain.

You understand what I'm saying and that that's the real goal. So it's it's really, it's a real long term long term goals that we have. But what we're focusing on right now is building the community up. We're grassroots. We don't have millions and millions of dollars to go and spend on marketing and go do a commercial on on TV on a on a network TV or put billboards up like we had. We're, we're.

Drawing this from within and and that that's the, the approach that that we're doing and that's why, you know, man, like probably about a week and 1/2 ago, maybe even two weeks ago, we were talking about it and then we just kept talking about it, talking about it, talking about it. We're like, man, let's do it.

Let's just do it. Let's just go for it.

And you know what, let's do it. And then a week into a week and 1/2 into it and going full throttle, man. So this is, this is literally the building stages. And we have, we've already locked in our our developer.

We're working on the art, we're finalizing the art that we're gonna move into the website and we're moving to contract and then we're gonna roll out the mint.

And and this is this is literally like I said previously in other spaces is this is the infancy stages of.

Not even the infancy. It's like the pregnancy stages of our project, like it's not even hasn't even came out yet. This is like us just building like from ground Ground Zero. And we appreciate that all the support that we've been getting from the Community and the support from space hoses such as yourself allowing us to come up into these spaces and allowing us to talk about our project with without a platform, we have nowhere to talk about this.

So I mean, when I say the community is a huge part, I'm not only our community as in the 8 ball eggs, but the entire web three community because we need everybody's help to be able to put ourselves out there.

Is it, is it hard finding the balance between handling the right because we all know this is a brand new business model being introduced, right? So was it hard finding the balance between like actually working on the the the project right that the crossing the T's and dividing the eyes and then but also you also have to be in these Twitter streets. So, so how do you go about finding that balance?

Definitely there's there's a definite, definite balance when it comes to that. And with there being both of us, myself and and able were able to balance it a little bit better because when one of us is in the Twitter space, the other one is handling the back end and vice versa. So it it's it helps out that we have two heads.

Working. And it also helps that we're, we're essentially on two different time zones. So he's on the East Coast, I'm on the West Coast, so.

The the time zones help help out too, because when like when he hopped up to do his space.

For me.

It was. He hopped up and it was six in the morning for me.

I'm I'm barely about like very start start my day. I start work at 5:00 in the morning, so he's holding it down and at the same time between work I'm able to handle the back end stuff.

With the messaging, people come communicating with the artists in the back end while he's.

On the front lines so to say and just and we we swap we just swap and we take we take turns and I think having a partner that has the ability who isn't afraid to speak and and talk it. It goes a long way because you're right man. Like you need to be in these spaces you have to do this to get out there you you you either do it yourself or you pay some influencer all kinds of money to go and do it.

And then you pay for fake followers and you know it. That's not what we want. We want to build this from the ground up. In order to do that, we have to be out here. So that balance is really between the two of us is just swapping. And I think that's critical. And if even if you're just a founder by yourself, you need a team, you need to have at least that other person or two other people that can help you balance that.

How do you guys stay, stay motivated and stay enthusiastic about the project? 2000 projects come up and Open Sea Month, right, 2000 projects come and that's just open C we're not even talking about other marketplaces and I haven't really did no new research and probably a couple of weeks. So those numbers could have changed, right? So 2000 projects come out in Open Sea Month, 99% of projects in open sea, 99% of projects.

In open sea has never had one person been a dollar, right, one person, they have never had no one bid on what they have over there, right. So how do you guys keep your enthusiasm and your motivation during these grim times, right? You guys are in the same space as I I'm in, right, right. We all see that 99% of the people were projects then main Achilles heel is what? Sales, right. So how do you guys keep motivated and enthusiastic, right? Hearing, you know, from other founders?

Like I said, you're in the same space as I am. Yeah, you'll see. Everybody is in here. Not a lot of people not here like shilling. Some people are just speaking freely of their project, right? So I don't say that everybody that's talks about their project as chilling, right? But yeah, like hearing all the grim stories, like what keeps you guys going and what makes you guys think, you know what, we could do this.

I got.

Yeah, definitely. I'll. I'll go ahead.

So yeah, I'll I'll give my answer and then rich you can give your answer. So you know, just the dotting those eyes crossing those T's, you know, I mean that's that's motivating for me. You get what I'm saying. So, you know, reading my my story, you know what I mean? I'm reading this and be like, Oh well, you know, this, this doesn't make sense, Sir. You know, like maybe someone, you know like might get offended in this story right here you know and going back and just detailing that and making i

When you're freestyling and you're in those pockets and you got that flow, you get what I'm saying. When you're in that flow for the story writing as well, you know, that's very satisfying as well. So that's how I keep motivated for these stories and stuff like that. And plus I get high as fuck, so I got, I got funny ideas all the time, you know what I mean? So that's how I stay motivated for, you know, the fun side of things, you know, like the the art and freestyles and the stories and all tha

Be honest. Spaces is fun too. You know, we get to chop it up, we get to meet new people, you know, make connections. I, I do this anyways, you know I mean, like before I was even doing this project, you probably know me as calibrated. I go into spaces and I'll just freestyle for people, you know, because it's fun for me. It's therapeutic in a sense. So I I was already in spaces already. So you know that I don't really need to be motivated because I was already doing it, you know I'm saying but a

And and and the the nitty grittier things, you get what I'm saying. I think right now we have a strong developer. Like she has been amazing. You know what I mean? Like she answers questions. You know, she she even like me myself, I don't know too much about like art when it comes to like drawing and stuff like that. But when I like, you know, critique something or or something like that, you know, she takes it, she listens and and she comes back. She she takes it to the chin and she comes back a

Yeah, we haven't, you know, seen any, you know, logistical errors yet for us to really, you know, be unmotivated or whatever. But I I believe, like even if we do have some some hardships in this project, which we will, obviously she'll help us, you know, get through it because she actually does have a lot of experience. And, you know, the same thing like Rich, he was, he was, he was a manager for a project as well. So he has experience. You know what I mean? Me, I do this all day. These hosts sh

For me, I I host a lot of spaces here and there. You get what I'm saying. So I'm always motivated when it comes to these spaces because, you know, this is like a concert, almost like I'm on stage, you know, I'll grab the mic on stage, rock out, you know what I mean? Motherfuckers waving their hands, you know, it's it's like I'm imagining a whole concert right now, you know what I mean? And and the lights going off, the cameras flashing like spaces is fun for me, you know?

Yeah and from from my, from my standpoint, the hunger for me it drives from.

From just always being an underdog, always being told that you won't be able to do something and and proving them wrong. Like so for for me myself.

I grew up growing up, didn't have everything in the world. My parents did everything that they could. But I I grew up in in there in a neighborhood where, you know, you had a.

You know, just grow up different, man. I'm pretty sure there's people that can relate. And, you know, they expect you to join gangs. They expect you to do drugs. They expect you. But when you, when you beat that narrative, you don't listen to the outside noise. It don't matter what everybody else is doing, if everybody else around you is doing drugs, everyone. Your homeboys are getting into gangs, your homeboys are getting locked up. But you keep your head straight and you do your own thing and

Many things. I've been to the mountaintop and I've been to the bottom.

Like climbed my way back up.

And work my way up to being I'm now right now my IRL just kind of docks myself and operations manager, the operations manager for the entire field for electrical contracting company in Los Angeles.

And I.

Just thought I was told that I'm like I won't accomplish it like I remember.

When?

Come back. Sorry, I had called. I got a DUI.

Those were a long time ago. DUI.

I was looked at as like my life is done.

You messed up. You had a really good job. You lost it all. You're never gonna be able to accomplish anything, you know? I've worked hard.

I.

Put my head down, didn't listen to the outside noise.

Like they're working and working and working and now.

I'm in a very good position where I'm financially stable.

Now with this, this is no different. I don't see this any any different. The odds are stacked against every project that opens up. Let's be honest, all odds are stacked against everybody. It's about who pushes through it and who works the hardest, who grinds the most, are the ones that are going to win in the end. Because it doesn't really, it doesn't like.

Like you saying, not everybody mints out, not everybody sells right away, but if you're out here grinding and you're going hard every day and people see it.

People pick up on that.

And they will buy your stuff like all you have to do is has to be persistent and don't give up. And I can guarantee you that is a recipe for success.

The the problem with a lot of founders and a lot of just people in general is.

That they give up that first try. They give up because there's always people that are going to tell you, ohh no, don't even don't even mess with that anymore. Like now you already like, you know, like you already. I told you that was going to happen. You see, I told you, I told you so because those same people that you think are there supporting you, they're secretly rooting against you. That's why they tell you stuff like that. So you gotta keep a a good mind on your head and keep yourself moti

Wrong. And that's my motivation and that's what's been motivating me since I was a kid, and that's what's motivating me right now.

Definitely don't pump.

Hey boy. How, how how you went about finding your own dev? Or did she find y'all? Like, like I said, there's many people thinking about projects. How did that process go? And yeah, how did that process go?

Serious. I'll tell you. It's pretty funny too. So I just, I kind of just went on Twitter and my main account and I was like, hey.

Uh, I need a I need a I need a developer for a project, right. And I I basically funded my own Gates pro. Like I got everybody and their Mamas, bro. Like everybody hitting me up trying to, you know, help us with the project. But the big thing is, you know, who's the scammer, who's the who's, who's, who's trying to, you know, take advantage of you and your ignorance. Right. So, you know, out of nowhere, one of my boys that I follow, that I freestyle with like like I said the in the music communit

You know, gave me three options of three different people. And then you know, from there I was like alright well that's the recommendation. I trust this guy like he's he's he's the type of guy that he's just supports everybody you know. No matter what he just he's always in your space supporting. Even if he's not talking he's just there. So I was like alright well someone like that, you get what I'm saying? He, he's he's valued high in this community. I'll, I'll take his advice you know what I m

Came up front or whatever, you know, so we ended up making like a payment plan even before we made the payment plan like we were.

We were we asked for like a sample and this is what she gave us, you know what I mean? You know, so this is like free artwork that she gave us, you know what I mean? Like before we even got to start working with her, once we found out, you know, like OK, like she just made an 8 ball egg. Like she actually, you know, she does have skill. Alright, let's actually continue with her because you know, we've seen her websites, we've seen her art, it's really good, really good stuff. So we're like yeah,

When I see your work, it's good. So that's how we really knew how to decide to choose her, you know?

Definitely. We thank you guys for sharing and we love to hear more. So we got the eggs and the leprechaun coming out of the 8 ball crew.

Most.

Sounds very dope on my I know you guys have been paying attention to what's happening in the space so long. Do you guys see yourselves jumping over the Reddit?

Uh, I think it goes back to, uh, I'm. I I'm personally gonna stick to what I know. You know what I mean? I I my first ever project that I I bought into was actually goblins, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, that's through Twitter and stuff like that. So I'm going to stick with what I know. I'm going to stick with Twitter for now. You know, it seems like it's more engaging anyways than Reddit.

But, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm interested in learning more about Reddit cause, you know, that might be the new big thing and I'm just being ignorant about it, you know what I mean? I'm always open to to what what they have to offer, you know?

No, definitely. It's just the way I was seeing it today in this space. It's like everybody's just ready to jump ship. And it's like you said, you got to be in this for the long haul, right? There's gonna be days where.

Right.

You tweeted something and it got lots of love and then it's days when it's down. But you know, it's just good to see how quick people just they thought process, ohh, it's not over here, it's over there now it's really going to be wherever you wanna put your most time into it, right? That's where it's really going to be at wherever you put in time and putting serious time, right? Like that's where it's going to be at. But like, I do understand what you're saying, right? We open to checking out ot

Like there's a different audience, you know you're trying to reach over there, so.

But yeah.

That was pretty dope though. And it's funny, I've seen this about a week ago about the whole Reddit thing. I didn't know it was that important or else I would have tweeted it, but.

Yeah, I think that was pretty dumb what they did over there. 3,000,000 wallets and you know we we seen those people have read it maybe make moves right. They they made moves with what was that GameStop and another one. So yeah they do make moves over there. Like you said it's to go check it out, pay attention to it. But also know right the audience or the audience. Y'all building already is here. So the jump ship and and alright I wanted to ask you guys that also right because coming from someon

Do you guys find it difficult to get the audience from the Twitter into the discord?

Um.

So we don't have it this court yet. So we we we.

We don't know if it's gonna be difficult or not. So our strategy for that right now is we're getting everybody in a group chat. So we got I think three group chats right now of of people. So once we build that.

Once we build that discord, we're going to try to migrate everybody over from from.

From the group chat to discord and I think this will be successful. You we might not get everybody into the discord from the group chat, but what this is gonna do is I feel like this is gonna kind of weed out the paper hands a little bit, or at least the people that aren't.

Engaging or active?

As other people you get what I'm saying. So the ones that when we dropped the news in the group chat, like hey, here's our discord, you know, come on, migrate over. You you you might just get, you're gonna get a white list as well. You know what I mean? Once you join the discord, you know, the first people that join, you know, they're going to get that white list. They're gonna be in the discord. And there's gonna be people that, you know, like three or four days later gonna check that DM and th

But we we really want the people right now that you know can retain information quick and can, you know, can act quick and you know, can send out that information quick. So yeah, I think it'll be more of a strategy for us if anything like a like a like a bonus to like really just, you know, weed out the paper hands, build a strong community.

And with the with the Reddit, I believe it's all at the same time. It's also evolution.

When you have to, we have to evolve as, as, as founders and as just as any anybody. You have to evolve with the change, with the changing times. Before it was all about Instagram, Instagram, Instagram, Instagram, and then you would see that everything's on Twitter. So you like you have, but there's still people on Instagram. So you got to attract those people from Instagram. Those people, just like you said Facebook, you gotta get into Facebook if you just pigeonhole yourself.

This to one platform.

You're limiting your opportunities to grow.

So I I believe that it it is good for us to do our research into.

A different platform such as Reddit, try to understand it because there will be there are those people that are 100% on.

On Reddit, like they've been on Reddit from day one this swear by it and those are all the people and those are the type of people that if they're fully faithful into something, you know that those type of people will be faithful if you can get them on to sell them onto your project. Those are the diamonds right there, because they've been diamond handing Reddit. You go over there, you get those. Those are the type of people that you want. You don't really want those people that that just jump s

On to the next thing you want those people that grind out with with that one.

With that one project or that one?

One platform, because those other people, you, you're just, you're just building your pool. You're building your pool up and that's for you. For any space houses too. Going over there and and broadening your horizons and getting to know more people. Because it is. It's not. It's nothing wrong with with going into other platforms. You're not cheating on Twitter by going over to to discord or going over to.

Reddit or Instagram, you're not, you're just building, you're building your brand. Essentially we're, we're, we all have a brand. Whether you're just one person or you're you're a founder, it's your brand, you're bringing your uniqueness and you're sharing your uniqueness with everybody. And I think that's what we all got to do. We all got to evolve and not pigeonhole ourselves just to to one one way of thinking.

Definitely. I don't know if you guys seen that. I got it up there in the pen tweet. And also if you guys want to pen anything up top, please feel free. Pete, if you want to jump into the discussion of what we talking about, you're more than welcome. Did you guys see that?

Ohh actually.

The ideas or plans of getting a wallet, I got it in the pen suite up there. What do you guys think about that?

My first time hearing about it, man. I don't see the pen tweet up top. I see the the story storytelling 1.

The one for the bird wallet one.

Yeah, the bird wallet wants what is actually on.

Thinking about right? And they're just trying to.

You know, put their teeth into this web three stuff, so that's also good too, right? They're not just trying to hit and run, they're really trying to stick around and and build as we build it. So I guess it would be a good thing again.

You know, Twitter is that I tell people, people deal with things that they trust, right? So people trust Twitter. I can see it being something. Would love to hear you guys thoughts.

I I definitely think it's going to be a hitter. I think I I support it. I don't see why it would be a bad thing. But yeah, no, I definitely like it.

I just my my concern is just the security I'm with with all the.

I mean.

Twitter is a pretty big company, so I'm pretty sure they can. They can have the top notch security to make sure that your wallet doesn't get drained, but it's just that's that's just it's kind of scary just for for a new person especially like for instance, just like discord man, you link your wallet up into discord, so you do collab land.

And then someone goes and clicks on a link and then all their entities are gone.

It just comes with, it just comes with knowledge in the space. But that that's always a what's a little bit, that's what fearful for me and that's even with me. I have Twitter blue so that I mean that's my my account is linked up to to Twitter. So I mean essentially.

I can.

I can get drained if I'm hacked, but I feel like Twitter is a little safer because I don't. You don't get those links while you get those links in your DMS, but you shouldn't be opening up your DMS from random. Random people never click on random links. I learned that very, very in the very, very early stages.

But.

Yeah, man. I don't see a bad thing. I'm. I'm open. Like I'm open to change. I'm not the type of person that fights, fights against change. Like I said, I'm a big believer in evolution and evolving and growing with the space. And I think it's a good idea. I think, I think it is. They have to, they have to be competitive.

Another question I'd like to bring to people, and I'll give my perspective on it. First, it's decentralization.

Now.

I won't say like that's that's something I use in my vocabulary when I'm speaking to people.

I do feel that a lot of the power was decentralized, and I'm OK with that, but do I see that utopia where everything is just?

Decentralized. No. I see that wheezed away for the simple fact all of the stuff being built on the Internet and Internet are controlled by right the governments wherever they act. So just from that perspective, I don't get too deep like seeing all of this wired and disconnected, but I do feel a lot of the power has been decentralized.

Yeah, most most definitely, man. I feel that.

That everything is essentially a centralized man like.

It's it's not what what it was this utopia that was it was originally thought out to be.

I mean, sure, if you if you it's on the blockchain, but for instance you go and you sell an NFT for X amount of dollars, you flip it.

And then you go to transfer it over to your.

To your wallet to to be able to get funds out of it. You're taxed on it. So I I feel like it was only a matter of time, man, for the government's got their hand on it. No, no. Especially in the states. There's no way to get free money, man, without, without being taxed on it. And I and I hate it. I hate, I hate to think like that. But I just feel like it was just a matter of time before the governments really, really got involved on the blockchain.

And started to regulate everything.

You.

And I'm sort of what you write on.

You guys seen the?

It was a bill they're trying to pass about defy.

And then even in New York, you cannot, you, you're not supposed to make money from staking in New York. So I might be wrong or something like that. But yeah, that that's like the new laws and stuff, which is crazy. They don't want you to get into D5 protocols. They want you to get dividends over they stocks once a month and shit.

Yeah, Pete.

Hey man, I just wanted to throw in there that off. We should encourage regulation to happen sooner than later so they can create the groundwork that we know how things need to be operated at. Because I feel like a lot of people are not willing to go into this because they know the regulations are coming. So as soon as we can get to the regulations, the more we can have a real understanding and how it needs to be navigated through. So I'm all for regulations, just let it happen sooner than later

And that's pretty dope on knowledge. Where you at on regulation and how do you feel about regulation and decentralization and also you, Pete, I would like to hear your thoughts on.

Regulars on regulation and decentralization are two different things on regulation.

It's.

Is needed for a mass adoption.

But I'm a OG in the space. I really don't want mass adoption. I don't want you guys in this space. If you really want me to be honest with you. The reason why is because when regulation happen.

They're gonna monitor the money. The whole purpose of crypto was for decentralized economy. This is for non taxable income like that. That's what this is really for. That's how I feel. And regulation is killing decentralization because we are becoming centralized. 100% etherium is 100% centralized and we're going to have other. There's other coins that are 100% centralized.

Thanks for that perspective, Pete. Where, where, where, where you fall on this prism of decentralization.

Man, I I think everybody's going to create with their own.

Platform with their ENS domains that could then set up either if they want to be centralized or decentralized and how they want to engage. So like, you know, Facebook and Meta will probably never be decentralized, right? But that's going to be cool because there's going to be 20 years of people who need to get onboarded, right? Like there's still people right now that are barely getting smartphones, right. So if you look historically, it takes 1015 years for that to happen. So meta.

With being centralized, it's gonna eat very good for the next 20 years or so, right? Like, that's not a bad business model. Now, if you're thinking more along the lines of, like, me and you and like, like homie just said right now, I agree with them, right? Like, why fuck everybody else, right? Like, this is what we're doing here.

So you know it. There's two different ways. There's two different consumers in this conversation. And you know, the big brands haven't really came in like how they will be in the very near future. And I think a lot of the shit's going to change once we have Web 3 browsers that you have to connect your wallet in to communicate with verified digital assets, right? If that's music or art or whatever it may be, right? Listening to Web three, Spotify or whatnot.

Music players like that. That's going to be coming in the near future. So that's going to kind of stabilize a lot of things. So you know, I think it's just different strokes for different folks.

You're definitely before knowledge come in. I would like to reset the room. This is Mr Wonderful. You're now tuning into the Web 3 water cooler that is my co-host blem along with knowledge, the crypto God. And if we could all right. I want change voices to be heard as well as mine. If we could just retweet the space and right get it. Jumping ahead, we locked the head for another hour. We do this.

Every Tuesday from 9 to 11, and as we get deeper, I'll let you know why why we chose those times and.

Technology on floors yours.

Yeah, so I just came from an event. The blockchain was called Aptos.

And they are.

A blockchain that was created by members from Meta, which is Facebook.

When I tell you.

That even though they are gonna be centralized and I already see it when I tell you their security is gonna be Immaculate, which is something needed in this space. I mean that it's going to be Immaculate. Like they got $1000 out of me. It's sold soon as it goes to $7.40. I'm dropping 1000 and never looking back.

They they got me so.

With that being said, it looks like the centralized cryptocurrency, blockchains or gun, they might be ahead of the other ones.

The gentleman that you got it, he was just over there with these people.

And you know that's.

Part of what we do also right we try to hit these.

IRL's and really soak up info.

Yeah.

We got we actually brought one of the speakers to talk on the Web 3 water cooler talk the last person that we spoke to.

Understand.

He is definitely an auditor.

4 on four different blockchains or whatever, and he he's he's vouching for them. I'm vouching for them too, now.

Yeah, yeah. Blockchains are really just brands at this point, right? They're like shoes, right? Once someone's going to be like someone's going to be Adidas and then there's gonna be someone who's gonna be fella, right and converses and whatnot. So if if that brand Aptos, I just recently heard about it, I know it is VC ran, so there's a lot of big money pump behind that and it definitely will be centralized. So knowledge is kind of hitting it right on the head there if they win on branding and t

Like they're gonna be in good shape just like Dogecoin is going to be in good shape because they got a hell of a shit load of free marketing from Elon. So it's like at the end of the day these everything is just a brand right? And you know, I think I was saying that the other day would knowledge like.

Everything every dot E is just an app like this is just like web 2 all over again, just with a new protocol with how to go about it.

Definitely agree with that. I don't know if you guys seen overseas, they just dropped the.

Type 3 phone that you can hold nodes and.

But I think the Max on that phone was like 44 grand. So I don't know who they think the customer is.

But I do take a phone.

At least for me it's needed, right? I'll take a phone to separate.

Just uh.

Ridge yourself from clicking of normal web two life right many of us and web two you right. You know you don't click on wrong things but it's you're more security and so I do think a phone whoever went, whoever makes the correct phone will win.

Yeah, they go ahead.

But that one for 44,000 is not happening.

I'm. I'm interested in that because I'm gonna read up on that because if they made a phone that allows.

Any company to plug into them and like compete like Verizon and Sprint could compete to be the service for that crypto front phone.

That would be some dope stuff, so I'm gonna read up on that. That's interesting because I'm talking about web browsers.

If there's a web phone already that that obviously is a web browser.

I'm actually put it in the chat right now.

Every week.

It was my fault.

Temperature.

Put it in the chat right now.

Keep it on there.

And have it.

I lost her house.

Hey, so I just turned it to the top and she'll be coming in. But yeah, well.

I think that would be pretty dope too, right? I'm thinking of actually getting a second phone just for now tonight, keep these things separate, right? So I do think a phone that that just caters to what what's happening here in Web three, I do think that would would be helpful in this space.

But yeah, you know, we have Friday night till 11. Uh, I would love to hear what you guys are smoking on this is some.

Travel.

What are you guys smoking on tonight, man? Pete, what you got over there?

Ohh man, you're talking to the rock the right person. My my wife is a general manager of a dispensary, so I got all sorts of sit in front of me.

Ohh, that's super dope.

Can't beat that.

You said I'd be smoking dads, though.

OK.

How long you been on the web? 3 space Pete. I've been here for about a year now. I've been here consistently.

Ohh.

For about six months.

Saving.

Man, so I've been doing like my my, my work two careers like talent management and like music and social media influencers and shit like that.

But I kind of picked up web three, probably two years ago. I started learning about it because it was a natural progression. I felt like for like the entertainment business, I was like, hey, I need to get my people involved with this because like, royalties and all that stuff. So then I started looking for a dev.

Found a guy locally and he actually we we started a he had already built some tack and you know we kind of forged the relationship and started this company and now we have a creative tech agency with the with the tech that he built and like the models that we have it's it's a I don't I ain't you know I'm not looking to came here to show I'm just looking for a good conversation but if you really want to know man I got a whole long conversation about that.

But Long story short, man, about a little over a year I've been working.

Brothers here we it's just us here, so we can't get into it. But yeah, you can keep going.

Um, yeah. So we we've been going hard for about a year, strong just building and pretty much we're building like the infrastructure for creators to build on, right. So I'm a little older. I don't know if y'all remember Sega Genesis, right? We look at it like everybody.

Yeah, so you.

40 years old singer.

So you know what a game Genie is then, right?

Thanks.

Yep. So we feel like we created a game genie with our technology which is basically like a competitor to like a manifold. We look at it as like in the web two world. You could consider it a WordPress or a Wix where companies are going to build their businesses on top of. Because what we did we stripped down some ERC tokens and combined some and like in a way made our own token. So we have built a publishing and IP.

Administrative dashboard for creators and businesses and brands to engage with. Also a athyrium ad service, which is pretty much just ads because like when you guys were mentioning you know, an NFT with that has NFT's in it like that's basically like our model. Like we've been building that for like 2 years like which is.

Everything that mints on Infinity meant, which is the name of our software comes as a mentor. So like we created our first product that we launched on October 1st was this product that was a a physical, real life converse shoe, right. So it's a shoe with a NFT project called the Scary Garry's. So what we did was we sold 50 pairs of the digital shoes, but we came, we worked with the client and came up with the number of 750.

So each person who bought a physical pair of scary Gary Chuck Taylors for 250 bucks was able to claim the shoe as a digital mentor, like as a digital receipt along with have a mentor that allows them to have a sovereign mint page that we host that gives them the power to give away for free or put a price tag on the derivatives of the shoe. So now I bought the shoe to just talk it out a little bit clearer.

I bought the shoe. I now have the power to sell 750 derivatives that are compatible via Ready Player me, which is like a Metaverse integration. So with that being said it this is like a two year project plan right? So with that being said, once people mint out their 750 each, either by giving them away or what not to have as a digital digital wearable, then we implement our Ethereum ad service.

Which is what we consider something that hasn't been seen yet. So what what that is? It's like a sticker. We're placing stickers, decals, and upgrades for the shoes. So imagine you have a digital wearable that you paid $1.00 for because you bought it off your homie, who actually owns the physical shoe right now. With that being said, you have an opportunity that Footlocker comes along, or Panera Bread or any of these brands come come along and say, hey, I'm footlocker.

And I I wanna.

Sponsor a all the chucks. I want to put a sticker on there. And then anybody who puts a sticker from Panera Bread on their metaverse scary Gary Chuck can come in and claim, you know, a free coffee or some shit like that, right? So that's like a way to do branded partnerships. Another great concept that we have is imagine that, you know, if all 750 per 50 pairs of shoes equals an army of 37,000 now.

Imagine that footlocker. What puts a bounty on, say, Snoop Dogg snack sandbox concert, right? So they're like, hey, we've been wanting to infiltrate the demographics for Snoop Dogg, but he doesn't respond to us or he charges too much or whatnot. I rather put five ETH on a bounty for the scary Gary Chuck holders to put this footlocker sticker under trucks, right, and wear them into sandbox or to central land or spatial or whatever the fuck.

And put a bounty on it saying like hey, they have to spend 30 minutes at Snoop Dogg Sandbox party for them to participate in the bounty. So imagine out of 37,000 people, say 1000 people show up to claim the bounty of 5E. That means they split the 5E because they participated in the sponsored ad and the bounty. So that's what we put behind the shoe that is out right now. So it's like we finally have a real life product to back up our tech.

And you know, we're building an agency on top of our tech, which like I said, I consider like a game Genie because there's so many products and different examples that I can go through that are just next level for NFT's. And you know, I don't even like saying the word NFT because I think we just need to go with like the digital asset term because in essence it's like so much more than just what an NFT is and what not.

Wow, that project sounds very dull, man. And I'm.

How has the response been from the community about the project?

I know it's tough, right? When like you said, people.

Man this we can't communicate right. So like scary games is a project that that was 750 I'm we're in Chicago so it's a Chicago like Gary IN so it's like right here somewhere but he sold out in like February his project 750 he has a total volume of like 100 ETH he's a verified open C artist and all that good stuff has been on Rolling Stones coin base spot that he had movement right now when he dropped the truck we sold like 30 out of the 50 trucks at this point one of the reasons the errors.

For all we have is small sizes now, so all we got is like size sixes and sevens and stuff like that. So that's kind of holding up the physical production.

But on the digital side, our issue is communication. We're not a marketing company, we're a tech company. So we built a Tech 4.

The for the for the artist and we strategically work with this artist because of the looks he was getting.

Now the problem is, it took a long time for the artist to comprehend that this shit is even possible. And it was almost until like 2 weeks before the actual launch of the shoe. We actually put an NFC tag in the shoe. So now you could take your phone and you put it on the top with the converse and it pops up the URL like a menu would, right? Or like how you would do quick pay at the at the cashless pay like mobile pay and whatnot. You know, Apple Pay type shit. So it's that same type of technolog

Right.

Right.

People can't comprehend this shit. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm thankful that I hear you guys talking and you guys seem to know what you're talking about. So I feel comfortable sharing. But in essence, if someone said, oh, what, tell me about these shoes. Like, dude, I can't. Like, where do you want me to start? You know what I mean? Like, what do you know? Do you even have a wallet? Like like how am I supposed to tell you about, like, you know? So so our biggest problem right now is people who even own

Participated in claiming their shoe because even if they claim their shoe they haven't shot out any derivatives yet. So it's like we we have to do like an education, a bunch of educating right. But like I said we're a tech company, we're we're already on to the next project. We have so many in our pipeline, some like our next project is photography that we're using with a geofencing. So it's a Chicago photographer who got amazing.

Photos. And we're gonna create quests like gamify it where say I take a picture of the series tower, or you or the Chicago Cubs stadium, you. We geofence it. So then we encourage someone who's interested in photography to recreate that photo. And when they go and recreate that photo, as long as they have an Internet connection, we could talk to them by, you know, knowing that they're there and sending them airdrops and doing a whole bunch of crazy shit. So.

We're moving out like we like I said I keep saying like we're building tech. So we're really just building tech for people who got dope ass ideas and we could you know stretch reality and then, you know, hopefully people see what's going on through having the product and not just us trying to tell you what it is. Like, no engage with it. Like go see what these shoes are like. Go try to like, you know, do what it's supposed to do.

Instead, I put that some easier and less less expensive way for us to try to educate. It just might be a little slow.

God is so warm.

Listen, you guys will use for the next job. Like how do you go about?

Cause you could never tell what size is gonna hit or what.

Yeah, how do you figure that out for the next, for the next drop?

Well that was the clients decision um they came in saying that they want, they got these, these this 50 shoe deal with Converse. They got you know they're going to get this then they brought the shoes. All we did was insert the NFC tag. So that's really not on us with the physical like our next client is a bar where we're going to be dealing with their with their back end like they're going to have a crypto drink. They actually have art that's displayed on the wall. We're going to, we're going t

To get people to their bar to participate in that you, you get what I'm saying. So so that that's kind of where our business lies and it kind of relies on the the free market to kind of use it because like I said our business model is similar to like WordPress. You could build your website on WordPress but they ain't advertising for you like they're not going out promoting that you they you know what I mean? So, so that's our angle and you know we just got some dope ass tech that we've built and

Amazing outside the box projects to put on top of it and the right one will be put on top of it and it will pop and it will make sense to everybody and then it will be like a wildfire. But till then, we're just going to keep strategically picking who we're working with. We're not open to the public, but our products are public.

And yes, I totally got it right on.

We attack companies, so they gotta worry about moving this stuff and I got it. And where that helps people like me, right? The more people that are using and.

And adopting and and using tools that allow people to spend their coins and use their coins, right? So I definitely see what part of this you guys are are working on.

Like I tell people, I see your world where?

Right. I don't have many wants, so I see a world where the things I want to do, I will be able to do with crypto.

Right, right. Yeah, that's that's pretty much the model, man. It's like come build on us, right? And we give you all the keys to everything you wanna own some things that you can't even imagine that you could own. It's available here, right? There's a lot of things that we know that we could do that we just haven't did it yet because we haven't found the client to do it with. So, you know, we're, we're pretty excited. We're actually going through some venture capitalist stuff ourselves or some V

Us and I'm seeing what our tech is, they're actually vetting it and you know going through it now, but you know we're going to see some some budgeting and some funding in the near future and then we're going to add upon our staff and.

You know keep going man, cause we're we're just builders, right. So we just gonna keep building this infrastructure for everybody to do their do their thing out.

Ohh, when when dealing with outside funds, do you do you feel they'll be added pressure?

Regards to produce sales, because we know what happens when you deal.

Cancer funding, even though we all want it and we all need it, I don't know.

You're talking to each is alright. We don't all want it right? But if you could get it, I preach people right go and get it. But we also know that comes with right. I want to say pressure, but.

What deadlines, right?

Well it it all depends like this would be like the my partners in this are little are older than me and the people who built the tech. My partner Josh, Lydia, they built the tech by Jeff is another partner of ours Super experienced people right like Josh's been I think he's had like 5 or 6 startups two or three of them super successful. Then he you know our partner Jeff he was the lead developer on Microsoft Xbox.

And when so he was the reason his team created the, the live version of Xbox or Xbox Live, like the reason why People play on the Internet and he's also the person who created the achievements for Xbox. So those are the products that he built. And like I said that the team is super experienced and they've been through this type of conversations and and you know, business experiences before way more than I have. I come from like.

So I have like label relationships, but like, that's a whole different level than this type of shit, right? So I can't even speak too much on, like how the process is gonna go. Like, I have my trust in, you know, our my partners that they've been through this before. And you know, what we're trying to do is find the unconventional partner. We don't want to go get funded by a big box company or like a big VC or, you know, U.S. bank, JP Morgan. We don't want none of that, right. We want some dude.

You wanna Mark Cuban type guy, you know what I mean? Like someone who self-made knows what this takes, knows it's, you know, it's you against the world at these moments. Like like that's who we're going to try to find our.

Our our our way with right someone that could understand that like man we we ain't gonna we ain't gonna have an HR team you know what I mean like like leave us alone just let us build type for other people. You don't deal with them. You know like we're going to be in the dark here like just leave us alone and build on us so you know who whoever sees that vision I feel like we're in a position to.

Kind of turn people away because we know as long as we keep our head down and keep building these products, in the meantime, our value is just going to continue to rise. So as the the longer we don't take VC money, the longer the more products that we could have in real life if we could start activating coffee shops and bars. And you know, there's a big NFT gallery that we just had a meeting today in Chicago with. They're interested in working with us and like excited because now they finally ha

That could put together some of their crazy ideas. So, you know, if we don't do anything for two to three months, that might even be a better scenario for us. But the problem is like our workload is becoming bigger and if we want to scale it, we should accept all these offers and not just say no, we only need to do one at a time because there's only four of us right now, you know? So that's what it truly comes down to. We have. We have.

Payroll plan we like, we put it together the right way, right? And like I said, we just four dudes right now who have some something that we feel like is amazing and we're just white gloving every scenario for the time being until people start to catch on so.

You know, I didn't mean to show all my shit, but.

Yeah, yeah.

Brother, you're jumping, not spending. We talking. There's a conversation. I'm, it's me asking the questions right now as we closeout the year right on was one of the goals of the team is really trying to get accomplished. If you guys could accomplish X, what would what would that be for me is we're trying to get this IRL off the ground. We started November 8th. It's, you know, catered to Web three, but I wanted to be a little bit more than that, right, because we all could just go to a spot whe

That's just what I've been trying to figure out, right? And I wish it was things like that right, where people could connect and use their coins and stuff like that, right on. So yeah, that's just one of the goals I'm really trying to get off the ground is get this IRL jumping out here and New York and really become a man.

I'm here in the city, in the whole wide 3 scene and on. So yeah, that's if I could get that up and running. Like I said, it's going to be a biweekly event starting November 8th, which is a Tuesday.

And uh, yeah, that's just what we're currently working on right now.

Yeah, that's dope, man. Yeah, doing now.

I think you're on the right path because.

People could see it easier when you deal with real life stuff right? Like if you if you got some stuff going on in in New York, I promise you bro, I could connect with you and we could do something simple like this where it's not like a full length project but what we what we have a product called proof of moment which is similar to to a pro app but since our anything on Infinity meant.

Is considered a wallet. We could put a poll app with inside our proof of moment. So consider this, say you go to Michael Jordan's last basketball game. Say you were there, your digital ticket now fits inside your wallet, right? Which is the poll quote, UN quote poet that we call proof of moment, we call them palms, right. So in the palm, you could put the ticket, you could put the, you could put the artwork if it's a concert, if there was a basketball game, you could put the final stats. Now any

Quote Poll app that we call palm. Imagine that I took a picture and I posted it. I pulled put it in the poll app in the palm. Right. And then you on the other side of the stadium, you know caught some girl chugging a beer and it became a viral moment. Then you put it in the in the palm. Now when I refer back to this palm, everybody in the stadium could contribute to what we would consider to be like a time capsule. Then we locked the time capsule and then.

At that point, you could refer back to this moment five years from now, 10 years from now, and see everybody who was there who participated in it. Right? So that's the type of stuff that we could engage with, you know, with someone like yourself who's engaging in this community, and I don't even know you, and you're across the country, and that's a service that we could offer today to people, right? Like I said, it's not open to the public, but you sound like you know what you're talking about.

Moments to cater to what you think makes sense, right? And at the end of the day what it what is people are calling right now a dynamic NFT that's technically what our proof of moments are. So stuff like that could be done now. So I'm just interested in over the next few months to the end of the year, it's just, you know, hooking up as many people as as I we see fit to put these products in real life.

And and that's really our goal. It's like you know what, these people really use these products at this point, especially if you know what you're talking about. And you could do a little bit of building and you could build your own page and you know update the the Mint site and stuff like that where we don't have to do none of that stuff. That's what we're looking for.

No, definitely dope. But there's three of us, right? My boy knowledge they're moving around. So yeah, we definitely gonna tap in and yeah exactly what you're talking about. I think they said that exactly what you're talking about. I think they said the NFL isn't working on that and I think The thing is called moments. Right. So they gonna start on.

Yeah.

NFT and like, you know, certain moments of the game, right. So right now and that's definitely dope right? Because that's what this is really about, right. And experience. I don't wanna get everybody the same come in drink right and us all fun too. But I want us to be able to touch Web 3 instead of just being able to talk about it. Right. So yeah, we definitely going to be in super contact between now and definitely before the 8 phone.

Riding on yeah, I love this space. Like I said, I came in here a year ago and I brought myself in right and.

I came here to Buzet run horses, right? I didn't come in here to 10X. I didn't know about 10X. No, none of that right now.

Because love horses, right? So once I seen that you can own like a stable of horses, that's what attracted me to the space. I don't fight. I keep it 100 with everybody.

I didn't know about 10X and 100X and so my whole coming in was different and I think that's what helped me in the space, right? That's what's helping me in the space, just the way I came in.

We're meeting some dope people.

Right I see you know sales that's that's that's what I'm really trying to figure out like so I could figure out that mechanism right for for people in here.

Because what you're working on is super dope and I'm pretty sure it'll spread. Like you say, you guys are already in contact with the right people, so pretty sure.

It's very likely you guys will probably be up here for NFT NYC on display at one of these events, right? Because that's what people need, tangible things that they could touch in this space, right? Connecting with bars, I would love that, right? Like, people don't know. Like I would love to be in places where.

You know just what I'm into at the moment, which is we have three. So yeah, we definitely.

Gonna build outside of this. And like I always tell people, this is not like a cool Maya. They come here to hold hands with people and say we all gonna make it and we all the world and no, no, no, I didn't. I didn't come in for that, right?

A lot of this is timing, right? Everybody's working, a lot of people solo and silence with their teams and you just gotta catch people at the right time, right? So I don't hold nothing against people in this space. I don't come asking for nothing like you did, right? This is a conversation. We could have ended it a long time ago, but we just build it because you speaking about interesting things and these are things I want to hear and was also dope like both my boys. We got YouTube channel. So i

Like this is Mr wonderful window. Right now you're tuned into the Web 3 water cooler. Every Tuesdays we hear from 9 to 11.

Yeah, appreciate you guys man. I I jumped in a room with knowledge and plan a couple days ago and it seemed like.

They were having a good conversation. And so, you know, I've been, I combed these spaces to kind of see who's listen who, who's up there with the knowledge and knows what the Hell's going on and shit. So find y'all to know what you're talking about. So I'm willing to share some of this stuff to kind of get feedback and, you know, see, see checking the temperature on, you know, what people think of this stuff, right? So.

Well I definitely and I know I would love I'm gonna run it past a couple of people because like I tell these guys I try to figure out how to web three everything I'm doing right. Like because I see the the like I see you can build your own ecosystem inside of here right. Because like I said I already live in a cocoon so my my there's going to be a world where I could take flights and vacations right with crypto so you know but doing other things like cafes and like you said you're working with a

You know, being able to do those things, I'm telling you, that's what's gonna help do the space, like get to where people want to get it to, right?

Yeah man, cause the the NFTS is is.

Like the casino at this point, like so many people came and dropped so many shitty projects and it's just like diluted it, right? First off, there's not a lot of good one, there's not a lot in the 1st place if you consider all the products in the world right and you consider digital art, like how many of them are?

But you would someone would call successful maybe 10%, maybe even less, right. So you know there's a lot of bad stigmas around the word NFT. But if you talk about Web three and like the potential that it has with you know connecting to a physical business that is already you know, moving units, right, like like one of our potential clients is like got a water bottle that they sell at 7:11, I don't know how many.

Units they're selling, but I'm sure it's a shit load. Now imagine if he was able to put a QR code on his already successful business and create a digital version of that product that works as like a loyalty and reward system, right? And then, you know, at the same time he could begin tearing his customers, right? So now this person who owns his business, this water company, could say, hey, this wallet address you don't buy.

100 water bottles a year. Let's give him a reward. Let's send him a free case to his house. Let's do this because he's a different type of customer than someone like me who might just buy 5 water bottles a year just because they're out of my favorite water that I like, right? So so therefore you as a business fucking NFT ape and all that shit. Like that's not what anybody is going to ever think about really. Like it was just an introduction to and.

To the word NFT. But in reality, like the power of business and the way that it could move and and put a new layer on top of the existing world is really the true value of web three. Like like I said, not to FUD like art and shit like that, but but fuck all.

Ohh right, right, right.

No, I agree because like I tell people, anybody I tell that come into space, you are not here like if you want to buy stuff, buy stuff, but you are here to build something, create something. Like if you and I and I tell people, it's like you said, right. Yeah, that's what brought us in here and it was fun and interesting. But as you hear for a minute, you're like hold on. Like hold on, it's time to build something and put something together. Like right. So I definitely agree with you. Like and y

People went to the right so the newness and the art right cause even. And we already dated ourselves so we both around the same the phones. Remember the bullshit game, the snake game right. Those were the first things on the phone. So the games and the fun stuff is always going to be first, but then the real business, real business people is going to start coming into the space. That's that's why a lot of these people are scared and they're trying to keep their influence and because now real bus

Alright.

And experience is coming into the space like I tell everybody, we should all be happy that the consumer is more educated now. And right we all want a more educated consumer. And This is why a lot of people are struggling like you said with their products and with their collections because they thought this was last year they was going to come through with with subpar things and and say bro and to the moon and all that shit was going to work this year. Now you just this where all the sadness real

And like the last 90 days like cause if you just hear.

Serious investors known to not worry about the day that they think so. Like, that's what I notice is really a game. When you see people like every day, you're going to comment on them. Like what is this market supposed to do? Are you going to watch it every day?

So, but, but like you said, I enjoy that the people are more skeptical coming in because a lot of people you know.

Don't care about people. And we could call it, right. That's just what it is. And we understand that. I understand that there's people here that is after you, your pockets, point blank period web, two web. What you think these scammers, these scammers call everybody's phone. So that's why I don't understand people's big.

Right.

Understand that skepticism, but to use fraud as an example is not a good one when you really know like man, and we have to like fraud is in the billions. So what are we really talking about here? If that's what's scaring you, you've been getting another reason, because what are we really talking about? But like you said, no, the products were shitty. That's what really was turning people on. And now every there's 10,000, no, there's probably now, what, 150,000 different?

Peeps.

What do you think, 200,000?

Alright.

Why is disgusting now? I don't even know how people. What do you want to create a ape now? Like if I don't even understand some people's brain right now, but guess what you're going to catch?

So in that year what the the the thing that Peter, what the the pier people were there?

Collection here. Um, they got a dog.

See that that that collection was that about?

If you don't mind.

Right. My gutter guards are wrong, man. We just did a part partnership with the It's not me. I say we like I literally have nothing to do with it other than being a holder. But that's a project that started. Our cats are floating around I think like 6 E dogs are like like 1.2 E on the floor. Pigeons are about 1/8. Rats are probably like point 8.9. And I'm don't quote me because I have. I don't look every day but that's pretty much the value and.

They've been holding strong because we've been creating dope partnerships are we sponsored a basketball team on the Puma League called TBT that was on ESPN that we made it to the semifinals. So our brand, our NFT brand had a basketball team called the Cutter Cats that were had a basketball team on ESPN. So that was dope to see my NFT at you know on a jersey on ESPN, Lonzo Ball from the from the Hornets and NBA as is.

Holder. And he has any we have like a Puma deal too. So anybody, any basketball or celebrity that's sponsored by Puma, where's Gutter? Gang clothes. Like I said, we just created a partnership with Jeff Staple. You should know who that is from being from New York, right? He's like the New York Fashion guy.

All the partnerships that they have are super strong and it's a community of people that it's just like street culture, right like.

People like myself who are involved with like entertainment, business and rappers and you know, Snoop Dogg got a gutter dog, you know, spotty Wi-Fi, who's the crypto punk rapper got a gutter dog, just sit like that, right? Like someone to write people have it. And then the events they had Gutter Chan in Las Vegas. We did a New York NYC party where?

You know, push your T was there, Ja Rule was there, Ja Rule got her got her dog Joel and B got a gutter bird. So it's like, you know, the right people, the right players are.

In the gutter gang and we get to say gang gang and like it's it's cool. It's like little frat, you know. But that's it, man. They they just really on top of their brand partnerships. They got a strong pack of, you know, they even created their own version of mutants which they called clones. So you know, even though the OG's are like floating around in Ethan more because the cats are the first one, so they're considered OG. They're about, we're about to have a gang.

Smoking. So you know, that's gonna be dope. And it's called Gang, so that's pretty dope too.

And yeah man, I, you know, I I think it's a great project. The OG's is where it's gonna, where you're gonna wanna be at because you're going to be able to collect game token for holding. But you know, it is pricier and not everybody's going to want to spend 2 bands on an NFT and show like that.

But if you were interested, the clones are probably a floating around like 100 bucks and it gives you access to the parties. And like I said in New York it was dope. There was free heart, heart, how do you those the the the Mexican drink was sponsored. They gave away free Pumas.

Free pizza, free liquor. Like every every event they do, they do dope merch drops with different creators from like Diamond Supply to Jeff Staples. And you know, I'm going to shut up now, but I really fuck with the gutter game.

Nope, Nope, Nope. See you from New York, I'm assuming.

OK.

Yeah, I'm in Chicago, but but I I got family in New Jersey and so I know.

You know a lot about New York. I was out there for that NFT van and whatnot couple weeks, couple months ago and.

Yeah, New York is a it's like a second home.

Nice, nice. Yeah, they look like a dope.

Project guys, see where you bought that NFT for like 1800.

Yeah, at the time I think I did some trading so I kind of upgraded my dog, but I bought left floor dog at the time and the bear in the bull market and I think I paid like .7, but point .7 at the time was like 2 grand. Alright, so it was like eight 15102 grand. I forgot what it was.

So I bought that and then, you know, at one point the gutter dogs were at like 2.6 or something like that and I did some trading. I, I I feel like I upgraded to this maholmes dog. Got me smoking a joint, you know, so.

Yeah man, I feel real happy with being a part of the gang and where they're going, and I don't give a fuck how much my shit's worth. I'm wanted. I I feel like I get more value by attending their events and networking with their.

Other holders at these events that I don't give a fuck what this shit costs, I'm still I'd rather pull up to their events and take advantage of like the the merch that they drop and then sell it for 5/10 ether. What? Not right, but that's just me. There's a lot of trading going on in the community. It's super active.

You know, if you're super interested, you could follow my my hexagon to the actual NFT and check out the collection on open sea.

Yeah, and definitely check it out and check out the collection and then whatever.

A high floor price, so.

Not saying.

And here at the floor you work now, yeah, the floor is .949 right now, which is probably the lowest.

That's why we gotta start this. We gotta start this dial already on. We gotta start this dial already blue.

You're a good 10 minutes to the hour, but yeah, interesting.

Convert searching with Pete the eat the that eat them.

Is there that projects seem table like that I really utilities and and I just looked up on.

Staple, Jeff. Staple he's he's been in it from 1997.

And looks like he design shoes for Nike.

2.

Um, that's dope.

Visual Communication Agency based in.

New York.

Founded by.

Jeff, staple.

Is there?

So that that's decent utility. Thanks for sharing that man.

You know what I'm saying? Of course.

That's what this is all about. We're true water cooler. So.

Blessing Mr wonderful.

Yeah, I'm here. I'm just going to check it out.

Well, yes Pete, thanks for extending the olive branch home. We definitely gonna build behind the scenes right on.

Yes, I definitely, definitely like what's happening over there, even if we could utilize 1 component and add it to the event, right, because like I always tell people, they're saying I would last event. That's the first one, right. I got a super dope location down here and on the Low East side of Manhattan and East Village, right, so.

Yeah, like I said I wanna make these things experiences right as we all could just pull up somewhere and drink and but you know I just want to have a add start adding web three elements you know to the event.

Yeah, man, absolutely. And you, you should really just do it with the with the state of mind of.

I want to create rewards for people who continue to attend.

Right. So like with that, that proof of moment concept is really just documenting who's rocking with you, who's your customer and then continue to talk to the ones that that talk to you.

So it it's really a no-brainer for people who could see the vision and.

Right.

Yeah, and the best part about it, it's all digital, so you don't even need someone's permission to have a pole, a proof of moment at at a venue, right? Like I can go to the the fucking, I can go to the the, the Bad Bunny concert tomorrow, like whenever it is, and create my own proof of moment there and ask people to participate if they want to, right? Like, so that that's what's so dope about this stuff. But yeah man, I appreciate y'all listening. I know I've been long winded.

But uh.

No, you have a brother. Because I wanna be able to let people know like what we're gonna be doing that day, right? So I wanna chop it up in the back channels. I already know it's late, right? But we'll definitely, like I said, it's November 8th, so we'll be chopping it up until then. And like I said.

This is not we're going to be doing these biweekly regardless. Like I always tell people right on when I put certain things in my brain. They don't matter who's showing up, long as I know I'm going to be there. I know I got the vision for it and and and my whole plans in this web 3 space, right? So.

Ohh yeah, we'll definitely be chopping it up right now. He was tuned into the Web 3 water cooler. If you did not just hear what they working on over there, you definitely want to stay tuned right on lot of things that that's going to help.

You know where with.

The adoption of this space, right, so that was just dope. The hair, you know?

And.

Talk to me, that's my cohost Blum knowledge was just had a IRL so.

He was doing the field work for the crew today and you know, thanks for sharing that information, brother. Definitely. And motivation. It'll me right? Because you need to hear that.

There's tools being built.

To deal with the day-to-day.

To deal with.

Everyday life, because that's where it is.

Some people want to stack their tokens, but some people want to be able to use these things, right? Their coins, right? So.

Right. We need we need things like that cafes and and bars and and you know just different ways to use this thing right. I'm he got me super excited when you said that because like my people they just opened two balls not saying they would be interested. I didn't even know. Right because not too many people was you know know about Web three and right. So it's just hard to even get people.

To see a different way than Fiat, and I understand that, right? People have bills and and and different things to take care of.

But I also see.

Where this is all going and how you could really build your own ecosystem inside of this place and it's there's a super dope place right. And again please come here to build and create them investing and like he said he bought into a community that provides resources right opportunities right. So please stop buying these things and thinking you're going to sit on your backside and and and write on.

Ohh, every blessing don't gotta have to be financial.

Right. Every blessing is is going to these events that involves you know the the, the collection or the collectible you hold and then tapping in and and figuring this thing out to many people is.

Right. I I just come from a different cloth. So to come in this world complaining, right, this is a brand new space to be complaining right now is unreal, right? So.

Right, because what the baby's gonna do, right, if we cry? And what are the babies gonna do?

Ohh please come in here Bill create link with people. I told you I don't come here for Kumbaya. The whole hands we are the world. I didn't come here for none of that. I came in here to build create link with people that that's like minded like me and and and see the cocona. I don't mind living it right. I don't mind going to a bar that accepts crypto or cat right. I don't mind these things. But I see that world coming right. So again I'll pass it around as we close.

Now this is Mr Wonderful. You were tuned into the web through water cooler blame if you want to say something and then Pete, you could also say something as we close it out please.

Is there where it said you already know numbers don't lie and volume is always key. Mr Wonderful said much. And yeah, just like Pete, Pete, Pete reference the project that he holds. He mentioned that people could even use think the clones to get in.

To these events and take advantage like when you look at them demand like that and I mean the community they have been access to people like like I'm Jeff staple, I kinda got some some buzz from that type of vibe. It's, it's it's somewhat what I've been looking for and expecting from businesses.

Within this space. Because when you speak about a bar or cafe, the reward system of course, just like you mentioned is what profit works for you. So if you notice that a profit work for you and you could go over that threshold to compensate patrons, that's mathematics and that's numbers, you know, I'm saying and that's all these big cup operations operate. I mean some people could put put markup on prices to to compensate a reward.

System where some people want to keep prices low and you know, I'm saying still compensate. So numbers, rewards systems, we're going to business. I'm thinking very, you know, like like precise about my approach as I've had quite an experience in music. So like hearing these things just put me in a gear to better articulate and move forward. So respect Pete and of course thanks.

For hosting again and a Web 3 watercolor Mr Wonderful. So yes Sir.

Yeah man, I'll keep it short, but man just appreciate having good conversations man. I like to like like Mr Wonderful said, man, just find like minded people.

People like us really can't have thought provoking good conversations like this, so appreciate the space man. Thanks for having.

Yes, and once again you will tune into the web through water cooler every Tuesdays from 9 to 11. Twitter space is we talking meter versus crypto NFT. IRL's right.

Ohh everybody have a good night. We probably gonna open up another space because that's just what we do after this one you know. But thank you for whoever tuned in and who I was gonna TuneIn after. If you wanna catch this space it'll be an NFT talking so you could click on the link in my bio. And yes thanks again.

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