Hi, burness.

Hi Kabir, can you hear me?

Yeah, I can hear you.

You are a you're not driving today, are you?

So.

I am. I am in the car right now.

So whenever you come to my space, you're driving. That's what I'm going to assume.

I live in my car. Basically I'm always driving.

So, so before I forget, I want yesterday when I was having trouble. Oh my God, I got locked. I was driving too, but I got locked out. But I wanted to tell you, I listened to your, uh, audio slash. I mean it looked like a video, but they didn't have video. It looked like an audiogram about the disabled disability, you know, and that was really, really wonderful. I mean that was really touching. I mean I I I don't know many disabled person, but I can tell.

I can. I have seen stairs people looking at park car or somebody getting out who looked like they're fine. But, you know, I I've seen people stare at them and I've seen that I'm like, you know, I know what you're talking about. And and it goes beyond that. But that was really, really nice. I don't know what prompted you for that, but that that was a nice, nice thing to do and share.

I was having a most people don't know. I'm actually a disabled veteran and I don't physically look disabled. I try to stay healthy and eat well and all this other fun stuff I still have.

Hmm.

A little smorgasborg of other issues that as I get older, keep adding to the tab and that causes just generalized flare ups and we call fibromyalgia. Fibromyalgia is a general term for not pinpointing a certain situation, but I've had, I've recovered from cancer, I've had TB, I have a rheumatoid arthritis, which is autoimmune disease. I've had some.

Other issues, and I think the the RA actually triggered a lot of other issues I've had that I just never felt until as I get older and it keeps attacking and when I have flare ups it's it really gets me down and I.

Try not doxing too much. I also included a video because there is a family affair with us. OK, I'll just put it this way.

I put a video in there which means it's dear to my heart as well into the audio and the thread. It's a regarding the.

The athletes with Disabilities Hall of Fame, which was started by my other half's father or his grandpa and his father, both passed away.

Already handed it out over this year to the.

MPI, RMI or the basically the Veterans hospital system and basically they can have a better reach into what disabilities really are not just because we focused in orthotics, prosthetics and I think I was getting a little bit more nostalgic with like all the the poor me situation, but also you know everything that I had worked for prior is.

Just, you know, hand off and I just was feeling bad that, you know, when I can't do things, I usually try building things. And my baby was gone pretty much on that point.

Wow. I mean, that's. I mean I I cannot I don't have words for it. I mean you are we've gone through a lot and you're going through a lot. I mean you know I I I don't know if I told you my wife had 10 years of migraine and it was completely should be classified as a disability but it wasn't and and she couldn't do anything. She I mean she has a computer science degree. She graduated the highest ranking. You know, and female computer scientists from the university.

This showed her uh you know showed her uh during her graduation she mentioned that that she nobody else had you know perfect score like her and as a female you know you know in the early in the me is she graduated in 97 or 98. So you know they they were just very proud of her and the university because that not many students were going through that program and it has a double degree master math and math as well. So but she had 10 years of migraine.

Completely shut down migraine that just you know you have to go somewhere hide and can talk to your kids can do anything. So I had you know because of that I've you know I had seen that form of disability it just that's my only thing I've I've seen and and that made me understand and now thankfully though now she's 100% cured because of FDA approved injection every month she has to take and you know it's just changed her life.

And now she's a gardener. Now she's like, Oh my God, I didn't, I didn't do anything. 10 years. So she opened the company. She, she, she launched a real estate, you know, commercial real estate venture with a friend. And so, you know, she's able to do stuff. So right now and so this is another reason for me to celebrate our 25th anniversary this November. And that's one of the, one of the other things keeping me away is I'm learning to dance for the first time. I am such a robot. I have two left

I'm just super geeky can think of. You probably have seen my picture. I just I'm not that kind of guy and so but she wanted this. I'm like OK I'm going to make that happen. So I'm taking lessons and trying to learn this and this all ballroom slow dance. It's not like but in my culture men and women, husband and wife don't dance and and I I grew up here. I practically grew up here. So it's not culture anything and I don't even care. But the audience that we have, the friends that we have a ton of

Culture so there will be like super shocked I mean it'll be like the in my 30 years all the parties have attended you know the community parties the I'm from Bangladesh so I still connect with Bangladeshi communities because there's you know this is how it is immigrants always flock to you know the the people who are there originally from but I I live in a city where there's only four of them and and A4 Bangladeshis and and I the next city is Folsom has like hundreds of them so.

So we're inviting friends from there and they will be shocked to death, seeing as dense as a couple because that's not normal. And nowadays kids do it. I know, I know the newer kids like their kids, you know, doing it. But for us to do it, they for they will not believe that it's me because I just am that kind of guy. That's totally not so I I'm doing this because I think it's something my wife would you know, ten years ago she couldn't think of sound, the sound, the loud mouth, music.

Oh my God. We had to, if she had migraine, she would go upstairs. We would stay with the kids downstairs. So that's how I as I that's my experience with you know what you are you you are obviously going to much more, but I just wanted to share that. Yeah, go ahead please.

Well, and I appreciate that you took the time to go through my feed and and you can emphasize because that's pretty much what I need at this point. So I thank you. But your wife, this is a surprise for her, right? Or hopefully she's not going to be listening to this.

No not surprised because she's she it's a couple then so she has to dance with me so but you know making me do it like you know normally you know I I have not you know she wanted to learn a few things that was like in together I didn't I'm like no no I can't do that so I always you know didn't do those things because I you know just because I'm I'm just not wired that way. But this time I figured you know she's gone through this and this is the 1st anniversary like you know when the 20th we did

Dried next three days after the anniversary she'd completely collapsed because of the heat the the you know the she gets stressed about simple party. I mean I don't get stressed about party but well I mean you know being being being looking for details and all everything but so we usually don't throw big parties or anything like that ever because of the the noise and and then all the all the factors get into a migraine person personally the high migraine she just actually says right now not in t

Uh, even the FDA approved drug actually helped but she always goes to natural path and they do the extensive blood work. In fact that's why she that's why they they recommended few things that triggered her to ask her neurologist the proper questions and that triggered getting into this experimental drug after and now it's fully FDA approved and but you know it's just like you don't know where you're in the cure is going to come from because actually the neurologist that sees her he himself is.

I'm a migraine patient and so he always give you antidepressants, and antidepressants are the most terrible thing you can imagine if you're taking it when you have two, two little kids, because you're just not going to be able to do much for them. And so that was the wrong thing. But but that was the conventional, but the natural paths have given her ideas about trying something different. So she see even though she doesn't need it, she just went to do her blood work just because she knows they'

Which I also didn't believe by the way, I'm totally in like traditional mad guy. I follow, you know, traditional medicine and all kind of thing, but she doesn't. So that that's our balance. Like I I would if something happens, I want to go to my PCP and then go to specialist. Essentially something happened. She's going to want to go to the, you know, the other route, alternative route, which has worked for her so far. So that's kind of the interesting part.

I also wanted to say hi to Yeats and Meta and African because I'm trying to corner Kabeer when he does have the time to do an AMA along with all the ambassadors if they are available to be panelists for the AMA.

I would love for you to host that and we should do that and we should do that. And so like I was saying awareness that, you know, like between now and the first second November, one of my staff is in Japan and he's actually helping his wife, you know, wife's dad who is last last leg of cancer. And in Japan, you know, they live long and this was a shock for them. And so they're going through some really tough times. So he moved to Japan until next until.

Until his first week. So I am I took on a lead or operations lead position which I really don't like because that's that's headache for me. So I'm doing that daily that's why it's carving my time. And the second thing is that you know that party that I told you I said that's going to happen. So I I would I can do it in between before the first end of the first week of November ends. But you know it will be difficult for me to find like I I can't like if I schedule something there's something els

Right. You know the office from the office or from from all the party thing that we are arranging. So that's why I I I'm I was noncommittal for an exact time. But if you if you can give me a few more options we can probably ask other guys other ambassadors and such and see who can make it maybe a few of them. You know all we can make it you know like we just need probably 3-3 prospective date time and then we can we can try.

OK.

Yeah, I can send you a Google Calendar too. That way you can just kind of fit something in what works for you.

Yeah, we can do that. We can do that. But after November 1st, 2nd over, that will be when I'm like, OK, I'm really going to focus on and going into spaces and that's why I'm trying to create it actually. You know that no NFG or die thing is like, it's my, it's a fun for me. It's like a fun thing is I'm just going to like, you know, I'm just going to talk about the NFT artists and things that are that I think I cater for, which is, you know, the projects that I care for. I want them to be regular

You know, right now there's about 10:15 projects that I follow track and support and so they would come in, they would share their stories and move on and and you know deal with kind of like an update and also others to come and learn. So that's that's something I'm trying to organize and I want to do this a little bit more seriously because every time I try to do any of this we ended up completely going somewhere else and that is another reason, yeah.

Do you have do you have ADHD or ADD?

And I'm not diagnosed for anyone and any of that, but I could have both.

1.

Hmm.

Well, it's uh just a personality trait then. I'm not going to say or it could be affordable, but nonetheless it's a yeah. I I'm not trying to make it into a big scene or anything else. I'm I love the update for being able to do the callbacks for previous record spaces if it's not picked up by the bot off of, you know keywords. But you can just send the link in and.

And pull the data off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hmm.

I mainly my whole purpose is to do a one hour session uh nonchalantly people. I have some people that I've been talking to that just have general questions also want to help advocate I told you about the you know someone just like Oh my gosh is Kabir the founder of like yeah like oh so they want to just pop on in and not drill you. They just have general questions comparable.

To they're part of.

A beta testing or beta testing of another application that does similar thing however is used token gating and I know yours is more of a fun space. As you're saying before, you want to open up these projects not for the money purposes, just because you want to grow within communities in an organic fashion. And that's what I enjoy out of it. And this is solely just a, you know, a social gathering expert exploration.

That you're building.

This point time.

Yeah, zealot.

Yeah, yeah. So I know. I know like one of the projects that does audio very well. Uh, I think it's called God jealous or something. Jealous maybe. I know. Yeah. And I think they are free right now, but they said they're going to charge in the in next year. So that sort of thing. And I am going, you know, the audio thing is, you know, it's just whatever, whatever Twitter does. But I want to go beyond that.

My I would say if I had to pick a pick a feature that's going to make make an NFT talk actually happen really big way. It's going to be the affiliate marketing and that has nothing to do with audio or anything like that. It's the ability for me to give the power to the NFT artists. Say I would like to share my revenue with with 10 or 1015 hundred other people who can help me and for them to pick up the affiliate relationship and.

And manage that through a system. And I've built affiliate system, so I know exactly. In fact, you know, I am actually secretly enabling VAC. You know the the, the VAC center. I don't know if you know them. They're an exhibition center made by two really cool people. Name is Mish and Jodie. Jodie is the designer and Amish is kind of the advocate for it, I think. And so they host spaces every day and they created this huge gallery of huge, it's not special, it's like spatial to the bar.

Then with hundreds of 200 plus artists in there exhibiting in their in their center and so I thought hey, I'm behind the scene. We were building affiliates, you know bringing the affiliate concept to it. So I'm going to actually show one link maybe potentially 3 on the NFT talk side. There will be their wax center because I there's also a free thing. It's a fully fully free thing. So we're going to show and we're going to track it like an affiliate marketing, but at the same time it's not going

We're not we are not going to be charging anybody but but they would get the idea of how this works and they can then hand out you know to hundreds of hundreds of artists saying help us you know the help us with the center we give you whatever the rewards that that they want to give them. So I really think you know helping each other's concept and with a little bit with a little bit trackable way. So it's not like hey it's help me out with this thing and and I'll help you out not that we're like

He's going to a formal campaign mode. Let's create an affiliate campaign and let you take the link and you share it. And you, if you do anything for me, I will be able to track it and I'll be able to give you the, the, the, the percentage of revenue and all that is done by the two parties. And we're just going to be the middleman showing the information like what, what are the affiliate campaigns available, what are the deals available, what are The Who are the good Affiliates? Who are the, you

That actually delivers and so people like you know projects can find them and kind of a marketplace for that and I've done that before in real life in 10s of years ago and those companies still standing, you know, they're they're serving a lot of customers. So I think I want to help people sell but not, not through me. I mean like you know I don't want to be the affiliate, I'm not going to even take a piece of anything from here.

I like it. I like it when other people use your platform to monetize their own. Basically the affiliate of a kickback.

Yeah. Yeah. And and and track it make sure this fare like if your third party let's say you and I want to go to let's say you say I said Baroness what's your website. I will I will take that link and share it All in all my assets like everywhere I have 20 websites let's say and I'm the publisher and you are the advertiser so I'll say I'll share this link but I want to kick back so you said we know what Kabir I'm going to give 2% on my cell if I if I can if I know you sent it. I'm like fair enoug

To this deal. So if we have a third party affiliate system that says OK we'll track who is doing what so I can you send link, I will track it, I will make sure you close the loop and then OK good we got all that. Here is the proof that these sales happen from this and so that's that's what affiliate systems do and this allows you and me to be separate from that. You know that I don't know if you sent it or I got it from the Facebook, I mean I got from you have also other campaign going on you ha

This is what we'll do if you have 10 affiliates you will know who get who did what. It's all traditional. There is nothing new it's I'm just bringing it into an FT talk because because that will help lot of artists to actually amplify their sale and and at least you know get out there. I mean if you if you imagine this you you have a blog and you can now help a friend you can say hey give me your you know I'll take your affiliate link but when it comes to take care of affiliate link you will get

Share this and with this link and and our system will generate the proper trackable link and say OK, take this, plug it into a WordPress or plug it into a in a Facebook, plug it into a social media on Instagram and you are done and then we'll do the tracking for you. So I'm working with the marketplaces and you know making some progress but they want to see it. Some of them are like, OK, do you have it? Like, I'm like no, I don't have it. They're like if you don't have it, we don't want to do ou

I'm going to do it. I think this will help and that's my idea anyway, so that would be cool.

Matter. Are you able to speak?

Ohh, very low, very low voice and I see knowledge blam etc. Everybody here. How are you guys?

I'm good. Kabir, how you doing?

Doing good, doing good. Welcome to an NFD or die.

So so knowledge thank you for you know doing what I asked which is you know let me know if you want to. So yeah definitely I'm very interested to talk to you about it. I'm I my problem with with spaces is that when I do spaces they go completely different direction. So for this when we start this NFT or die, I want to stay on the on the course which is talk to the NFT projects that we are going to talk to and and offer them you know.

Solutions. Offer them, you know you know, listen to them and get their updates. So the projects that are going to come in, we're going to, we're going to give them, give them. So for example, I'm hearing because I openly support some projects, I get DM for how, how could you support this project? Why do you support this project? This kind of questions because people are thinking they're trying to look out for me. They're like don't support this project because you don't know who this is. I'm lik

So, you know, so, so now I've understood that.

If we call up those projects and tell them come join us and to these things and not only will ask them how are you doing, we're going to say you know people have questions about validity and authenticity. How do you go about, you know how do you go about kind of sharing that. I know it's hard. So there are hard questions because I because what I have done is you know every project that I support I I kind of sometimes tweet out their, their NFTS and so people would look at that. I have a ton of t

No, you really shouldn't support this like that. You are, you are. First of all, it's not an investment. So I don't, I lose nothing. You know, I don't buy any of those for money. You know, like to recover money or or to resell. I buy them because I support the project. And second, you know, I want to give them away. I want to give them away as part of my thing because, you know, I'm. It's like a it's like a badge that you know by NF is just like a badge. I only pass that batch to someone else, s

So anyway it's it's going to be fun because it's not gonna be just interview you know I don't want to do the interview format. We tried Mara and I tried that and it's just it's just a lot of commitment. It's more of open but NFT focused. I really don't want to talk you know other things and and so I need cohost who would say we're going in the wrong direction. Let's let's move in. Media is not available because he's busy with IRL and I understand that but also I did not publish the time.

But if he wants to join then of course you know and any of them ambassadors can be costing with me anytime, anytime.

So not not a problem, but I just want to do this as a.

You're you're usually the one that takes things off computer.

I know. That's why I'm like, I'm like, OK, let's go back, guys. Reset. You know that. You know, I don't do. I don't ask for the simple thing like retweet the room. I don't. I don't feel comfortable with those things. I don't feel comfortable telling people that. But actually it works. You know, if you don't retweet the room, it doesn't get that that you did that matter. You did that more than anybody. I mean, I I think resetting the room is needed. And it's fun to have conversation. We have frie

Different angle and then most people here because we are in awareness, investigative, technical person, you know, she will just take it apart. That's really what madness is about. And she's so I like that. I mean, and then we can go in the direction that 90% of people don't like. OK, what is this conversation? But we are enjoying it. But you know, we gotta reset that. Yeah, it is.

Hey, good morning, Kabeer meta.

Good morning.

They want.

I haven't seen you, buddy.

I know I've been uh.

With my guy.

And I've been on Twitter spaces, but I I've been to developing another account in the ENS space. But what I want to talk about right now is Baroness, I missed your last space that I was supposed to go to. So I'm going to really try hard to make it to the one you have scheduled for today. And then I wanted to touch a little bit on what Kabir was saying right now about, you know, I think happy having a chill open forum type space.

It's more relaxed, it's more personal. I like it. I understand what you're saying. And then you have the spaces where it's really structured, where you have a host of Co host and they take breaks, they kind of take turns between each other and they they bring people up. I also like those spaces because it feels and it feels, you know, just a little bit organized and you have topics that you're that you're talking about, you stay in line. So I enjoy both of them. And Kabir, I I like coming to you

From the hip that the topics are great.

I like both. It's it's good to have a balance and have a mix of a variety of different types of spaces in my opinion. So.

I don't know I I just wanted to say that and I also wanted to talk a little bit about what you said that you have people dming you and talking about you know don't maybe don't follow this space or don't follow this project. I wanted to clear the air and and kind of talk about sort of an elephant in the room, so to speak. And I I've had people message me and say why don't you propose this to Kabir? Why don't you propose that and.

You know I I I tell them hey I I feel comfortable having a conversation with him if the conversation leads into that or or you know it's kind of on the topic but in in in saying that you know you've talked about energy talk space and the direction that it's going and.

How you're going to develop these sort of.

You know, I don't know if they're podcasts or or these topics in different areas.

That will be a sort of a social audio, right and I also.

Have been investing in domain names and I know I've mentioned two to it. Mentioned it to you before that I do have these names, but you all already have secured names and you you all have an idea of how you want to do it. So I just want to clear there and let you know that I do have domains that are in the podcast. You know ENS.

Market. I don't know if they're they can help develop NFT talk space, not just an ENS but also on Polygon.

And you know, in the in the certification and education niche. So I just want to put it out there. I want to clear the air that I also find interest in web three domain names and the topics that you talk about cabir. And I I want to be transparent about it because people have asked me, hey, why don't you talk to Kabir about that? Why don't you see if there's, you know a way that maybe Kabir finds interest in those domain names?

But the time has to be right. The conversation has to be.

Equally it can't be me trying to sell it to you or trying to like.

I don't know, have like hidden agenda. I don't want it to be that way. I want it to be open. I want it to be mutual and if the opportunity presents itself then.

Then, then I want to talk about it. And then in this case, that's kind of why I'm bringing it up, because it has been.

People have message me about it and Kabir, I know you talk about NFT talk space and some of the things that you want to do and develop on it. So I feel like maybe the time is right to kind of bring up that you know that conversation.

So thanks for sharing your let's let let Baron Baroness go first, then I will respond.

Oh, I was going to let you respond but because I was just had a question about ENS domain. So go ahead clear, I don't want to take it somewhere else.

No, I so, yeah, it is. I think that you did mention that you have some domains and you know, for the ultimate vision of social talk, which is the name of the software and the company, we're actually going to incorporate that. We already have a DVA filed. So that means we can actually get checks. You know, if if somebody from Dubai wants to write a $20 million check tomorrow, they will be writing to social talk. They're not going to write to Evan, which is my current company because we don't want

Talk is a DBA of Evernote but it'll be spun off as a as a complete separate company. So as far as purchasing domains and things we have substantial. I've hundreds of domain already purchased in the dark space which is the traditional web two and then on the ENS I only have the W 3 university which has nothing to do with NFT talk. It's just a personal mission for me to help you know people like people like Elijah and and and many others to get a badge of you know education and.

Show it to their community and are you know become part of become a consultant and explore the web three knowledge, expand and explore and learn from it. And so the as far as domains as far as dot space domains like music talk you know food talk we have got like hundreds of them but that's for the expansion of the the the the you know social talk platform. There is no ENS component because remember social talk has nothing to do with web 3 social talk is.

A complete separate software, open source software that we want to build that anybody can download just like they can download Linux kernel, Linux operating system or click on a provider and say give me social talk, click and just like WordPress installation, you are getting a social talk platform that will do the audio for you and coding for you. They do. They'll take care of all the guts of, you know, what is Twitter space not doing, which is not giving you the control of the audio, not giving

The ability to download or or control the audience or get get you know all the things that are missing in a corporate based company. That is social audio, you know platform, Twitter space. We want to give a imagine having your own Twitter space software that you can install and run on Amazon Cloud or your own server or you're on your desktop. Whatever level if you're running 20%, you know social cloud, social talk, you could probably run on your Windows machine, but if you were running it on a.

5050 thousand, 100,000 million user. You might have to run it on your cloud, but we don't want to dictate that. We want you to have that piece of software just like you have Linux. That is the ultimate goal of this. My goal. I'm not going to be able to reach it in this current form. I am teasing people. I'm teasing the investors, teasing the users, saying look at me. I have taken somebody else's social talk, which is Twitter spaces. I have gamified it. I have got 200,000.

People being, you know, speakers at hosts in the system that I can have profiles for. I have now added so many little functions and facilities just to make Twitter space, which is not not us, which is somebody else, and they can shut us down anytime of the day. And then using that information, I've gamified in interest in the community. Now imagine these folks who are here who could say, hey, now that we have this social talk software ourselves, we can just.

Take these two somewhere else where we are bound by only our terms and condition, not Twitter terms and condition, not Facebook. So I think that separation needs to happen like in in the next two years, even sooner. And I can make it happen in one year, you know, starting from next year if I was funded. But the funding level is so high, so expensive that I don't see it happening, you know, you know, this year for sure and next year it's also not looking good based on the economy, but I will.

I will still be shooting from January 1st. I will be in a position to pitch, deck the offer. Offer to make, make public presentation public. Meaning venture presentations to three different countries. Of course us and and Dubai is part of the United Arab Emirates and Singapore. I have a I have a friend that could fund us. OK. I have a friend in Singapore that could just fund this whole thing. He wouldn't go, he won't blink. Problem he would want.

Huge control of it. And he's the wrong person to control it. He's a traditional businessman. He should not control any of this thing because then he will take it to the wrong direction. I have to do it in my terms, which is I will not give up more than 20% of my company to anybody. Never. This is the problem. I want such a big, you know, I because I know what will happen. And so all this is in the play. Coming forward, when we do have funding, I will be buying NS domains and all kinds of things.

From the group of people that I know that you guys have been with us. Can you do you want to get a full time job as a social talk ambassador paid ambassador. You know I would want to do that because that's that's what I would be doing. You know that's how I'm going to be part of giving back you know my way of bringing some people like you. I would say hey I I know you are going to be perfect for it because you have done it. You have done community management. So you were like and you're like 2 h

Yeah, for.

Yeah.

And by lunchtime so the idea is so I'm not ready to purchase anything beyond what I'm spending. I'm spending I'm clocking 4 full-time engineer payroll right now in NFT talk under social talk and that's been that's been docked. You know that's been that's been recorded because last time I did this kind of venture like I I opened the startup and I didn't record any of this. I was told by my accountants that good luck getting paid from that because you know I I have to be carefully.

Come here.

Separating current business with the future business and the the liability the future business has is all the payrolls that have been, you know, being used for buildings, NFT talks, social talk platform is right now actually a debt for the new company. So whoever gets in there immediately inherits the debt that the company has. So I have to structure all this very carefully. Yeah.

Yeah.

No, no, no. I had to shoot.

Yeah, I know Media has his hand up, but let me just go on the record and say that none of what I was talking about was selling anything to you. It was just to develop or complement what it is that you're doing. I'm not here to to make 1,000,000 or to do that. I I'm trying to build relationships and community and develop with people who who who can take it to the next level. And yeah, hopefully I didn't convey trying to sell you anything because that's not what I want to do. I want to be doing. I

And I and I want to just know, I want the community to know that I'm here to build long term and and yeah, really care about the relationships that I'm building.

So totally appreciate it and I don't, I don't even, I didn't even mean that that you were trying to sell you did mention that keep it. I have this stuff before too. So I just want to say that like I have you know, I want to be able to you know.

Do that. Actually I want to buy the right now I'm not doing that. I'm doing that in the web 2 space, but not in the NES that much because I still have to see a few things and I think I don't know Mara and awareness. So a Baroness was waiting.

Yeah.

Meta better say what you need to say, then I'm gonna start.

I want to get to the root of NFT talk space because it's something I've been doing every day. I'm grinding out here, I'm going into spaces. I'm telling everybody the same damn thing. And you guys know I don't talk much. This is something that everyone of you should be preaching out here and I'm not seeing it. I'm sorry I got to bring it up. NFT Talkspace is the is a Google for spaces, but nobody has or is going around getting this out there and if we don't grow the spaces at.

NFT talk dot space is not going to go anywhere. Plain and simple. That's what we need to be preaching out there. We need people to put them hashtags in their banners. I and everybody here needs to be doing this to grow your own. You you want to succeed, you want NFT talked to succeed. This is something we have to do. We got to get every space. That's Web 3 affiliated in Twitter on NFT dot space period. So that should be your number one goal out there if you host this and if you go into spaces.

If you even just jump in them and throw a little thing on the the little discord down there saying hey add a hashtag or screenshot, the thing on NFT talk this says what to do to get their space. The space is seen because you're not only getting them seen, you're building NFP talk and that's what we're all here trying to do and I'm just not seeing it happening by very few. I think project is the only person I've seen through and post out there about this. This is.

Number one, this is a fundamentals of the site right then and there, period.

Well, I don't have a space yet for tonight at 8:00 PM eastern, 5:00 PM Pacific. Meda, would you like to jump into it if you have the time today, so we can just be the ambassadors talking about NFT space. It will be recorded in for podcast.

Style.

What time is?

Eastern Time, 8:00 PM.

55 for you.

Yep, Pacific is 5:00 PM.

I'm not sure. It depends on I'm. I'm getting into another space that I promise to be in if it ends soon enough, yes, shoot me the.

It's a one hour space.

Gotcha.

Yeah, like this one starts at like four 4:30, so I'm not sure how long it's going to be or how long I'll be needed, but I will if I can for sure I do. I think I do have the the invite, but it didn't have a time on it so I couldn't say nothing.

So.

Ohh well I eats. I seen that you did a retweet my thing but that was gonna be the one with Kabir and the panel and that's going to be to be determined later date. But for tonight's space they still want to do NFT talk space. The question I had though was I what I gathered out of your statement about ENS and NFTS talkspace I understand like yeah, NFT talk space, which of course connects to a wallet you can use meta mask.

And so forth. And you know there's some privacy concerns as well with using meta mask because it doesn't work when cookies are just say alright yeah disabled. But that's another story. The the one thing I was wondering with ENS because you can your text documents off of your ENS and like a DNS security keys you can connect and change the C names.

To be able to associate a wallet address from ENS domains into an actual domain.

Where do you are you trying to suggest being able to create something with within? I don't know, just at X or URL into your ENS to associate to your profile?

I mean it's up for for conversation. I'm not necessarily suggesting anything specific. What I what I was trying to bring to the attention is the ENS and.

Community growing and developing on.

You know different.

Names that have utility right off the bat. So for for me one of the ENS names is podcast radio dot ETH and and the sub domains that could potentially be built on that.

And maybe that complementing the NT talk space, maybe onboarding more people onto NFT talk space with a sub domain.

The sub domain on the NS.

And if it does, allow them to to add a.

A tax recordfortheir.com. Even better. Now they're going to be.

Empowering that keyword to be ranked. So there's a lot.

Broader.

And.

Utility to ENS and entity talkspace complementing each other. I don't necessarily know how exactly it's going to happen, but I see the potential.

I you know, when Kabir earlier was talking about his affiliate program and his purpose for the platform in general and where its growth is going, that would make a lot of sense on the affiliate side of you as a holder of the main ENS registry or other people with registries that want to create subdomains and follow up with a percentage.

No, she too, but it's just I'm trying to play it out in my head to where that that would be more of a trying so many tokens created if it was.

Being hosted directly through the platform.

Yeah, that's. I'm not sure that well, you know that there's gonna. There's a wrapper being created for the subdomains that will give.

That sub.

It will take it. I don't know if this has any relationship to what you were saying right now, but it takes the domain and gives it.

The holder.

In that wrapper, so it no longer belongs to the to to the main.

ENS name.

And and what I also wanted to say was that.

The end is what am I going with this the ENS subdomains?

Man, I just lost my train of thought. You know what knowledge has his hand up. I'm going to let him. I'm going to pass the mic to him and then see if I can't regather my thoughts.

Ohh I was gonna ask so can I like so if I have a dot ENS name right can I make that a website? So like I go on meta mask and then I right knowledge dot ENS can I make that a website like right now?

Yeah, yeah you can. You can. I I'm still clipping and editing my audio, but I did hold a space. It's actually up unedited on podcast which makes me cringe on how to create in your ENS main website and edit. If you have a website to redirect over to it, you can go into the DNS security and change your C names.

And it will be associated. Once you change the C names. You can copy and paste it into your ANS domain website. Go ahead.

Yeah, I remember now what I was going to say. It's in reference to the ENS utility.

And the the the keywords for those DNS names. Google just announced that you can now.

Yeah, be you know, ENS names can now be.

Searched so they're starting to rank those keywords.

You know those ENS names, so there is a lot of potential for these names to on board.

You know web two or complement like NFT talkspace and and.

The dotcoms.

Yeah, I wanted to make note of that.

From computer, one of the questions I've had from a few people because I got people that want to on board as ambassador that it could be great at it to. One of the questions that they ask is to skip it in situation where we're at on that because I can't answer it at this time.

Do we have any?

Oh, oh, you mean the stipend? Like how much? Like how much VSB would be given to each ambassador per month just for being part of the ambassador program, right?

Right. And I think that would help. The ambassador did are working now because right now it's basically a competition who can get people registered to where if we had that going, they wouldn't be such a competition for people.

So yeah I mean the the there will be a base. It's like the base for thank you for being part of us. It's like a you know and then the the main driver would be the more you know more people on board the the factor is going to go up. So if like Kumar you know you know onboarded hundreds of people right. And so he's you know he's he's just happy with that. He's like oh man that's that's cool. I got you know nearly 100,000 tokens because.

He's a he's done that a great job of that but we're sharing his link but so we would do a combination which is you know a base plus the the the activity driven like is basically almost a hidden affiliate program right. It's like you bring in a sign up sign up you they sign up gets 500V you got you got 1000 BP but also it it this activity the the monthly weekly activity would actually say you know if you did 10.

You know this will be you know X Factor to your base so base will increase so that's we just we're just figuring that out and again it is my fault. I have not you know I I said many times I was gonna put it on medium but I have you know in the last this month has been a tough month for me you know just because my company is small you know only 10 full time engineers one of them have a hiccup.

Somebody else have to do stuff so we're not big company guys. So one and and I'm really careful when I said go to Japan take care of this. I don't mean that person is actually working he the the my other staff has asked that please you you at least be available because we don't want to deal with Kabir. He's changing too much. I have in the last two weeks I have added 5-6 new requests for tools and things to be made to automate lots of things and customers are loving it because they love.

And when this happens because I take over and like ohh these five things cannot be done this way. It has to be changed because I am looking at my own. It's kind of going under the hood. I don't, I like it, but the staff don't don't like it. The customers like it because they benefit from automation. But my staff is really not interested in me working as the lead operations guy. So, so but the guy who is in the in the in Japan, he's actually putting in hours before we go go start and hours after

So he's trying to help his friends because he he knows his other buddies are gonna be there when he comes back, right. So. So I'm I'm going through that and it's a little bit challenging for me but you know that's why that's why I'm actually behind on on that. But in the meantime we have done some quite a few little updates a little little things like for example the RSS feed was requested. We got RSS feed that was requested. My friend Baroness, one of them. There's four barness right after he r

People requested RSS feed and then when I provided RSS feed, somebody else says how about a Jason feed because I don't use RSS anymore. I don't have WordPress, I use Jason feed. So we created Jason Feed, which is by the way much more, much more newer and much more data is in there in the in the Jason Field because RSS limits what you can have. So yeah, so we added so many little things that was really going while we're going through this. So go ahead knowledge.

My fault. That was just looking through a whole bunch of stuff. Well, my question, well, I was gonna say the meta meta had that. Like, I I put the hashtags in my spaces. But, you know, I'm not like I love Kabir and everything, but I'm not gonna force that FT talk. Everybody knows, you know what I mean? It's in my bio. You click on it or you don't, you know, I'm not going to force it on people.

At the moment.

Yeah, and if you don't, I I don't force it. I actually don't uh, what I am waiting for is version 1.0. My problem is, you know I have a I have a YouTube, YouTube channel that I created just by creating couple different plateau on video about couple of different projects and I have like 1200 people joined that very quickly. I know that once we start regularly promoting content like actually doing promotions.

I have not done anything because I'm not happy until 1.01 point oh means affiliate programming. On point means fan pages. Fan pages was before affiliate, but I put affiliate before because the marketplaces like the algorithm, market algorithms, God, I forget the name of the the the gallery algorithms. You know the 50% of the algorithms NFT's are going through that gallery JPEG store. I'm talking to these folks.

They all do. Only if I show them they're like we get it, but do you have your part? I'm like we'll have it. No. Then why don't you have it and then we'll look at it. I understand they're trying to say you are not ready therefore we can't do what you're asking me if JPEG store if Alboran does what I want them to do and two others that Nico provided, you know, some other, some other platform if we can get these marketplaces to support affiliate the way we are talking about.

That would be such a game changer because I can clearly show you the ROI for every NFT artist that is not market, that doesn't have a marketing team that doesn't have the marketing machine. They can have ten of their best friends. Like super friends like think of Nico Caden. And Nico is a project that's, you know, spends 20 hours a day on on spaces grinding. He has to and I understand his mission. I'm a big supporter. But if he can tell 10 people.

He cannot tell me because I won't take it. I won't take dissent from his cell. But there are people who say, you know Nico, you're making good, good, good, good, good project here and we'll help you. But we have expenses, so at least pay us for our expenses. And that's 10% or 5%. If Nico is willing to pay 10 percent, 5% to 100 people, he no longer has to be grinding 20 hours a day a well known project. He will have information about the project, people know about it and say, hey, we're here to s

And this and that, so somebody will post it on, on so many places. So that's exactly what every NFTR should be trying. I'm not saying they will be successful, but if they don't try, they won't be. So that technology is more important than anything else in my book that if I do. And again, guys, another thing you have to remember, NFT talk is the smallest thing we're doing. Social talk has music and sports. And those two, those things are 100,000 times bigger. We have tested it, we have tested the

Comparison versus NFT versus it is almost like.

I have to explain to my advisors that I do want to do Web 3 because whoever is going to be the VC, they're going to have one guy in there who is web 3. He's going to say, well Kabir, I like the web two stuff, but you don't have anything web three. Now I do. I started with Web three, so you can you can blame me for not having web three that's why. And if you talk is there, it's the smaller of the of the of the platform. The others don't don't exist, but others are the spaces there are thousands t

If you go to sports spaces, they have thousands of people. So that's where the advertisers and affiliates are going to play. Really, people want to monetize the social audio.

Tell me one platform that does it, social audio monetization. Spotify is, you know, social, not social. Are you playing music? But if you can monetize social audio with NFL affiliates, then it will become the next thing. And that's one of the things that you know the selling point for, for, for what we are doing. So yeah, sorry man, let's go ahead.

Ohh.

No, no, you're fine. But Spotify is a free.

Right.

Free for not just music, but if you want to create podcasts to upload and monetize off of it through ads, which is another affiliate.

See here. What was my name? Ohh yeah. My question was your RSS feed, your transcripts, your downloadable files, how long are they stored?

Right now they're stored forever because, you know, we're not, we're not planning to get rid of them. I mean so we're storing them, you know, forever. But here is what we have done. We have enabled glacier mode. What that means is if you don't use it, if that file is not getting requested eventually it's going to go into kind of like it'll be there, but it will not load as fast and eventually it will not load, meaning it'll go into the backup like, you know, basically Amazon, Amazon Cloud Glazie

For score like Ohh, nobody wants me. Nobody wants me. Eventually it goes to glacier mode and in then it becomes tape. It goes into tape. It doesn't. You cannot retrieve it right away. So we don't. That'll take a year. You know the whole process if a file is touched immediately resets the counter. So if a file is touched then it's no longer no longer in glacier mode. So basically you know they become pumpkins. You know they they don't they don't they if you don't need that fast. So maybe we tuck

Really expensive ESD to the mechanical drive which is exactly what leisure is. Then eventually it goes to tape which does not retrieve right away because even Amazon Cloud doesn't, doesn't retrieve trade tape. Very expensive retrieval you know but we so we have enterprise behind this. We have enterprise technology behind it. So we know how to do this day one. So right now everything is on the heart of the SSD. So you are able to see and we we have not even pushed them onto our CDs because we're

Saying we'll only have like couple 100 spaces like a total of I would say about almost one terabytes of space related data that's that's nothing that's that's a dot in in in in the space that I am in. So. So I think once it starts hundred terabyte that's when we're going to start enabling glacier like you know sooner than later and so that sort of thing will happen. So right now you have it.

OK. So the general AC file extension will be forever, but the MP3 and so forth that's been converted, does that just kind of go back into being AC?

So the glacier doesn't care about what file is. It's going to be all of those files. So ASC, MP3 and OG files are the three different representations of the audio right. And and and so if the whole let's say nobody's requesting that audio lesson no RSS feed is catching it. Nobody's requesting it the so it gets the score. It's not being used. It's not being used. So eventually after a period of time it says OK this is no longer needs to be on our heart highly expensive storage it.

Goes to the slow storage which is the mechanical storage which is the that that's automatically done by you know you know this glacier concept so it mechanical storage is the oldest like you know the spinning disk and then if that's where it lives for a while and nobody's requesting that ever then it goes to tape and then when it's not retrievable. But if you if you say I want it back then we can say alright let us know we'll get that's what that's how Twitter is basically telling you that you k

Make a lawsuit and get it back. They will get it back from the tape. I mean automated tape I'm not talking the old manual tape so that's what they're doing because it's costly. It is just so that you know a good two hour space is you know is almost half a gig because of the number of files we have internally. So that's you know that's that's not too bad but you know if if nobody needs it if nobody's requesting that space might as well offline it right. So yeah I'm I mean I want to make it availa

People are able to rely on it and more and more people can get it. The transcript is, I'm gonna tell you the audio, I'm more interested in the transcript than the actual audio because transcripts is going to be the the the way we find the so-called expertise in people like what are the 10 keywords that you talk about? And I went with a different approach. I am first we looked at all automation, 3 different projects, Stanford Parts, Sir, we use the MIT F Sanford and the commercial.

Which is the Amazon, I think it's called converts or something. I forget what it is called now, but none of them did what we wanted. We wanted a multi war, multi word phrase detection did not do it. Very good job. So what we did is we we are going to ask you say, hey Barnes what are the phrases that you like to be you, you talk about and you want to let us know how much you talk about. You say I talk about you know off sack or I talk about food security I talk about you know being.

Being, you know, transparent. So you put those in and we said we're going to look for you and then we say, hey Baroness, you didn't talk about being being transparent or being, you know, this this week, last week. So you would be able to tell us that I want to be known for this and if you don't use those terms, we're going to tell you, you didn't talk about it. So you say kind of a reminder that I'm not talking about the things I want to be found for. So instead of going in a fully automated AI,

How how really bad it is is simply goes into stemming the ward and gets the single word as terrible as it's not what we want. We want people to be known for open source, not open and source. But I want to be known for open source. So I want to tell it, hey, I'm going to talk about open source. So now open source, social talk, NFT talk. Those are the keywords I want to be found for. And these are these are single words and the last two. But imagine a phrase you know, I don't know. I don't know an

And track me tell me in my transcripts that I am talking about this at least at least I I that's what my intent and and so it'll tell you no you're not talking about we we evaluated your transcripts for and then when you do and somebody comes in to say I want to find speakers and hosts that talk about open source it should say there are 25 speakers and this is the ranking based on the amount of time they spent talking about this in and that's when I'd rather have that guy go to that.

Personal space, then somebody who's claiming to be open source. I rather do see, what have you done? You know, what have you done? What do you talk to? Who listens to you? Also important. So that's really where we're going to go with the transcripts. And transcripts are the most clunky part of our system. This is the worst part of our system. We are trying to rewrite this. This is the second time we tried rewriting this. We are basically telling Twitter, hi, we like to playback this video. It's

And then Twitter seems as closed caption. We captured the closed caption and that is your transcript. So it is super clunky. It runs at very slow speed, takes forever, sometimes fails. We're trying to rework this, but you know, there is no clean way. There is no API for that. There is no API for that. So that that's just off the caption and so you know that. But that is such a good piece of data. You know, that data will tell us who is who in terms of like what, what other people you know, what

Wanting to be known for. So I hope to get that out really soon like you know this is this has been our thing that affiliate marketing fan pages ability to help you know find people buy keywords and phrases instead of just typing in their name because who knows you know like like knowledge is you know I see knowledge but I type in knowledge that's not what his Twitter handle is his Twitter is a crypto garden NYC. So not not not not the not the most you know likely thing that I'm going to type in.

On the on the keyword search, right? Yeah, go ahead mana.

The the.

Yeah, I was gonna say I read some of the transcripts and I didn't know I had the tick of saying, you know, so much. So I've been trying to work on that, which I don't say. I don't know how it got switched up, what I was actually saying, but I realized the transcript says, you know, you know, you know, whole lot.

Right.

Oh my God. You just you just shared something. This is something my one of my guys was saying that why are we looking for only good stuff? Why don't we tell them what? What are the bad habits? I'm like, you kidding me? And I didn't go there, that discussion ended. But you are right, Mara. I mean, like if we analyze that, you know, if you were analyzed 200 of your spaces and it says Meta, stop saying you know or you say, you know, fine, you know, so that'll help us. I mean I I am all for it.

Because I want to know or you know, it, it, it, it, it has so much value to it. I just think it's, it's, it's really amazing. Amazing too. If we can help people and identify things that they want to let go or or actually emphasize. Those are the things. That's how I see transcripts play out. And unfortunately it is the worst part of our system as far as implementation. We are. So I mean like like give us an FBI, damn it, you know, that's what I say. But they don't. They don't and you cannot do i

Yourself. Because the problem is when you have an audio file, everybody's talking unless you have a super cool AI who is going to track this is Baroness talking. And it is possible. It is possible.

Did I get wrong guys?

Yeah, I think you're getting rugged a little.

Ohh, I would. I thought it was me.

Me too.

Ohh no I I know I I had a call that I had to cancel the call. I had a call so the call takes over the audio. So anyway I forgot what I was saying. Sorry I'm talking too much. Anyway, other people talk.

We were talking about ticks, but yeah, that's something you guys might want to check out on your transcripts. And I know I don't say you know that much, so you got to kind of fill it out a little bit, but it will give you an idea of where your ticks are and things that you can improve upon as a hoster or when you're speaking or whatnot. So just something to look out for like you're saying.

Yeah. Anyway, so cool. I mean, um.

Easy. Go ahead.

It could be one of the things that I've been doing is developing other Twitter accounts and I guess my question is.

Can I?

Can I connect those? I mean under Etz and is that something that's recommended if it's just me?

I don't want to. I'm not trying to.

Trick the system, but I do have other accounts that I'm developing in other topics.

So what do you what do you think about that?

So the biggest thing is you know we have to prove ownership like you have. Let's say I I I actually did this recently I changed the crypto what does my handle crypto smart one. I was I I changed it to Kabir Ave to be more clear and transparent and actually I'm not about crypto so I'm about you know so I I I did that. When I did that I went through hell because it is we have no tool for automatically even replacing somebody is is 500.

Kabir.

Different tables, 500 different things. So I it's an internal thing for us to develop a conversion tool so that first of all, if you ever change your handle, we need to make sure we restore it. Right now it's a manual DBA operation. One of my DBA have to fire 500 queries do this. So we said no, we have to make a tool, but we have to make a tool. Yeah.

Kabir, I I I think it's much simpler than that. Instead of not just your main account changing the handle, but if you have you can use of course the APIs off of Twitter as long as somebody. I mean it is possible because I have this is my main account. I have managerial properties on my other accounts through this, not just through Twitter deck like my other one. It says automatic, automated because I can run my bots.

Through and so forth through the API's. But you can. It's all of it is in the development platform for Twitter, and you can actually write up a script to verify.

Yeah.

You mean to like, get your followers from one account to the other?

No, no, no. You can assign. I know what you're talking about, but it doesn't solve the problem. Let me tell you why. So I can have five accounts and have four of them join my first account to say, OK, this is the company account, this is the Avenue Corporation account. Five people are managing Evernote corporation accounts. So they allow you to have admin admin privilege to an account so that you can say I know the Evernote account or the brand account is maintained by 5 staff member. That's act

The.

And.

This is talking about he has five different accounts. He's not gonna connect them in. He's not, he's not wanting to manage you know, 444, you know one with another. He's like I have account a, I have account B, I'm collecting VNA, I'm collecting the. I'm assuming it is you are trying to say can FNT talk, see that as a whole one account and show you all the all the totals.

You let me be specific. So on my computer I'll go down to my where I'm actually me back up on my Twitter account. I'll go down to the bottom of the settings and it says add account, so I'll log into it. I'll log into an additional account under a different username and a different password, but it's still on the same computer. So I have like three or four of those on Twitter. They're all different usernames and passwords.

OK.

Are they different emails?

Different phone numbers.

Hmm. Yeah, you are.

They're different emails. Yep. I have a the the phone numbers. Yes, there's a couple of different phone numbers, but I've I've been able to use one phone number for at least two accounts and it does. It does Max out and say, hey, you can't, that's already being used.

Is so. So from and if you talk point of view, you created Etsy account, you are an ambassador there, then you have a new account, you know, called Etsy 2. Now what do you want from us? Like what you want to see you know right now I know what you're talking because I have five accounts on Twitter. I do the same thing. I just go switch up the switch to the account and then I tweet from there or or like or share or whatever from each of the accounts separately. But from from. So you have one accoun

It is Z. And then you have four other accounts. You could link them just like you did, just like you did by authorizing it. So now you'll have four different accounts. But I from the NFC talk point, you don't know that you are the four. Are you saying you want us, you want us to know that those four are your accounts and allow you to switch within the Dash dashboard? Is that what you're trying to do?

Hmm. Yeah, yeah.

I'm not saying whether I should allow it or not, I'm just letting you know that that's how I have my accounts and if there's any pros or cons to it. I don't know if there's a cookie that tracks my my, my, my computer to entity talk space and my Etsy account. So when I log out is it doing something to the to the system when I log into another account but it's still tracks like my my IP or my computer?

So no, it's not IP based, but it is. I mean it's a login session cookie that lives there. If you log out it, it removes that. But so if you log in with the another another account you know you can have for each of those accounts, you know you you would have to have a different session right? Even though it's the same computer, it's just a different session. But what I think some people have asked like OK, I have five different account, I'm getting VSV on this one, VSV on that one, VSV on this on

Possible if I can somehow prove that the other two accounts are your account. And I think very Vanessa was saying that that is possible for Twitter to save only if possible if you actually have one account as an admin for the other. Most people are not going to do that. But if you do that, like if you tell Twitter that I have etc. And but these other four accounts can manage etc. Now there may be an API but I know Twitter does that for admin purposes, but there may be an API that will say hey th

You know our able to work on this account or four accounts are able to work. So that I understand the multi account issue it is, it is you know something we have to look at but you know haven't solved that yet. But we we have to be careful because we cannot let someone else.

I say I I I have this account. We have to prove it that you do have both of these are your accounts then we should be able to link it and the benefit will be shared view of your total summary page, total VSV, total you know total figures of things and then there's just a database thing bringing it to into a view. I think that's going to be like in the To Do List but you know priority wise you know right now the affiliate and the the other stuff that I mentioned those are moving those are going t

And these are these are the these are the things for people who are more advanced. So I think definitely we would want to do that. So it's it's already been mentioned a while back I think Vanessa was also mentioning that long long time ago about multiple accounts and all those things. So yeah we'll we'll try to address them but you know I would say this is a this is kind of a smaller segment of people are affected by it.

Thank you. Thank you for answering that. Yeah, I wasn't trying to.

You know cause confusion, but I think for me what what I I guess what I was looking for is the earned via USB. Is there you know?

The opportunity to earn more or is it bad to do that because now you're creating multiple accounts that that I mean I can authenticate them but.

Yeah.

Is the system saying OK, you're you're creating these fake accounts and it's going to negatively hurt, hurt me in some way?

No, no, no, no, no, no. That is no it's we we we have no such production or interest in limiting because I mean somebody could be remember it is you can when sports talk happens you may not use ETZ as your sports talk. You know like when you're going to sports Twitter and you may be using something else right. Maybe your local you know some other some other way of you know your Twitter handle that's why Twitter handle would be different. So yeah you you should have.

Multiple accounts and you should be able to use them. But I think that if summary view of all the accounts that you have connected and we can certify that they're connected to you then we are. Our problem is we need to be able to certify that this A&B accounts are actually the same person. Now if tutor, tutor gives us that information then we we're happy to take it, but we can actually invoke that. We can actually you know make, make, make, make that connection ourself as well. But we we have no

You know you're coming from the same desktop right. So when you log in from A and we say OK you know you you want to you want to verify multiple go log into your other account. OK you logged in from that too. So we see this this you know this specific machine with session not not IP. IP doesn't. We don't trust because five people can be behind IP. So we would say you were able to authenticate with us. So cool. We would give you the connection so we we can make we can solve this. This is a solvab

Yeah, well, like I have to count on, they're separate. My lightning struck my mad ahead. I don't use lightning struck for much of anything because it's my original and I don't want to get it messed up or anything like that. But it is registered at NFT talk. I don't use them to speak very much once in a while when I'm hosting in another space or something to that effect I do bring, I have brought them into, you know, Kabir spaces so that I don't, you know, have to leave the other space or whatnot

Because yeah, Kabir could quote me if I'm wrong, but the more people is registered or profiles it's registered, the more spaces that are on this site and people that are actually in involved in NFT talk dot space, the better to get the funding that he's looking for. And that's what's going to grow everything out. So in my eyes, yeah, the more profiles it's over there the better. But of course Kabir, you know, if I'm wrong, please quote me.

No no I I am not and I you're totally right you we we we are open to that because I don't think I'm not worried about you know 55 different five different account you know earning VSP's fine fine with me. I mean I don't see a problem because they're going to earn it for the purpose you know what they're doing so so it's really what they're doing is being part of the community if they don't go speak or host they're not earning that's the basic and if they're if they're embarrassed if somebody say

Five of them ambassador of course. Why wouldn't I do that? Because you are behind those accounts is the person that I am ambassador ring. I'm not ambassador ring. You know the ambassador is not associated with the account. It's it's the person. So if they if they have 5 phone lines to talk then let them let them be ambassador in five phone lines. So I don't have a problem with that. So I think we're we're gonna be fine there. So yeah I mean that was those we had a really nice good discussions an

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Greetings, greetings. That was.

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Yeah, very, very interesting conversation, of course.

They really enjoyed the listen and.

Yeah, I'm just here.

You know, learning and and building. So.

Blessed.

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Yeah.

Yes everyone, this is Kabir. How are you?

One of the things I like to tell people, you people, like I said, the best thing that we can do growing entity talk is to get it out there and get these spaces on it. Because if people don't go there and find spaces, they're not going to go back. And that hurts us more than help us. So anytime you can try to bring this up into whatever space you go into, if you just throw little thing into little discord down the bottom of your spaces that you go and stuff like that, the more that we get it out

Talk is that the whole point of the space is to get the spaces on there, and they're just not there yet.

But yeah.

Umm, yeah, manhood. So I was saying before you left I had my hand up and all of that. Like, so I can't force it on people. I don't wanna like chill it. Or is that the word you guys use? I don't wanna just throw it.

I'm not saying shield this space, I'm saying to to help them. You're helping all the spaces by getting them on there.

Ohh yeah no you have to refer it. Yeah. Like if you see a person like consistently streaming and stuff or whatever, doing the spaces right, I feel like you should throw it. You should throw it at them.

You know what I mean that that that's how I do it.

Man, like you don't even have to throw your link. Just go on there and say, hey, if you add web three, your hashtag, you know, hashtag, web three or hashtag and or or one of the hashtag that the site picks up, you will be seen over there where people are going to look for you and look for. And I tell this because I'm a ship fan, Kabir knows this. I'm big ship and I'm dealing with a lot of that. I got some big things coming up that I don't even want to talk about it because it's that big. Like ju

The lead developer of Shiba Inu following me and I'm doing a lot with the community over there. Blend knows I'm in with the community, you know, quite a bit. And I'm also involved with NFP talk radio. And that's going to be a pretty big thing. It's already, you know, grown quite a bit, but there's a lot of things that I'm doing in the background that you guys don't see or hear about, you know, I'm keeping it on the down low because I have to until it's ready to come out. So when we talk about NF

Dodge space. We're talking about growing as a community because that's what it's all about and that's why I've been in it since the beginning, you know, and it isn't about the VSB. The only reason I bring this kind of stuff up is for you guys and to bring more ambassadors on, because in the long run that's what's going to help really grow the space. If we get a bunch of people talking about it, the more people talking about it and say, hey, hashtag this, do you do this with your banner, you're g

More people come into their spaces, which helps everybody. We all know that. The more people is in this space listening to what's going on, the better it is for everybody. So that's the whole point of it. That's what we got to get across to them.

And I just want to chime in back in I, I did mention this while a while back but I never really documented it. So it's kind of out there you know I have a, I have a I have a group of advisors that advises my company. They are very very good people. I'm actually you know they have asked me to they, they've linked me up with the technology team, a very very high profile sort of Silicon Valley and top tier people to introduce Web 3 and NFT specially they said.

You just talk about NFT, just focus on NFT. So I have very little on Web three, but it's going to be a lot on NFT. I'm going to be talking about it and you know, and that's what prompted me to also create the W 3 university idea to help people and stuff. So I'm going out there in January to actually this will be my first road trip to talk about Web 3 and NFT specifically and showcase what we have done. This is really almost like a networking event for me. It's a free, I'm not charging them and t

Paying me and I am actually going and talking to them in Bay Area saying this is what I've done over the last year and this is what I have brought to the table and I'm some of these people are enablers. They're going to look at this and say is this something, if they if they find interesting this will be the start of the conversation for our venture venture funding for the actual ultimate goal of building a social audio. You know, a platform for you know the open source platform that anybody can

What I was going to tell you what related to what Mara says is that the I have told them that in order to gamify this event further, I'm going to take first 100,000 people and consider them an OG status. I'm going to assign them an OG status because they are the true believers in the in the game and for them I want to have, you know, additional things, some things more and more. I have not come up with all the things, but I want to have something more than what so first 100,000 users are going t

The the the cream of the crop in we are we're just going to do everything in our power to do do more more than we do and that's because.

That's in order to build attraction. That's how much you need in a soft, in a, in a, in a scale of software that we're trying to build. If we have 100,000, only 1000 is going to talk about it, only 1% is going to actually be engaged.

Maybe 2% at the most. So imagine having 2000 people vouching for you every day of the week. That's what we are looking for. So if I said what about, I personally am going to only look for 100 people. I already have 72 people. I follow out of them like metalhead and lightning strike. There's multiple accounts that I follow. I will not unfollow multiple accounts, I'll follow multiple accounts. But I will end up with the most 100 people in the course of couple months that I'll follow and I will do

For each of you, you know, like, you know, commenting on your things, participating, doing. That's how I see myself grow with you. So I'm not gonna follow 5 million people and and and and and do stuff. I'm gonna follow a limited number of people. I mean if I follow part, I did that very painfully. I had to parge and reduce it because I really wanted to know who are my super fans, like who actually know my name. Not when I wish to go there. Some people say hello crypto smart. You know that's what

People 100% of the people in my list know my name and because you know it's kind of visible also you know it's it's in the it's in the thing. But here's what I'm saying that I will take that 100 is my personal group. I would do even more for them but what would that mean? I have to define that. But that's how I'm crafting myself that as far as I have to talk 1st 100,000 signed up users are going to have an OG status. What does that mean? I can tell you one that they will jump over to the other n

Versions and they won't. They would immediately get rewards in VSV that they other people are buying with their credit card.

So you would be able to get into things that other people are buying with credit card, but I won't, I won't, I would not ask for that if you signed up and signed in, you know before before certain number hits. Now for ambassadors, obviously that's given you guys are going to go jump into other platforms and not not needing anything. You're just going to be taken care of. The bus system will know you. So that's the other thing that we want to make sure that 100,000 people have a VIP status and wi

Whatever needs to identify them, but I just wanted to throw that out there. The the the early bird does get the warm and early bird should get the worm and I would, I would do to incentivize that as soon as possible. So I just wanted to share that because I think matter was talking about that sooner, it gets done sooner better. So I thought that's just a point.

Yeah, well, we got to get the game out there that you know any commercial, you hear the same thing three times for a reason because people don't remember it for the third time. And I've talked to a lot of people that, you know, they heard it from Comars and I talked to him that somebody else talking, well, they may not have signed up under me, but they did end up signing up. I know they did because they're one of our ambassadors now, one person specific. But this is happened over and over again.

I believe that would stop a lot of the competition about the like. I've been in this from the game before BSB was even there. It doesn't matter me, except for I use it to help to promote the vote and stuff like that. But I I'm not here for the money. I'm here because I understand what Kabir doing. I've understood it from the very, very beginning when none of the stuff that is on the site, it was available. It wasn't there. We was talked about. That was it. Did I know Kabir was for sure doing thi

And I kept with it. I did the Co hosting every day. We were doing spaces for a while there and I wasn't making nothing at all. So it isn't about the VSB. I do this, I talk because I want to help the whole space, the whole NFT talk space as a whole and that's why I bring these things up. If we go in this space it's just let them know, hey if you if it doesn't have a hashtag up there, if you can go into space and it isn't being seen on the site, there's something wrong Web 3 space. That is if it's

Yeah, crypto, you know, a play to earn or something to that effect. They should have one of these hashtags in the banner from the get go so the space could pick it up. And what that does is it helps people that may invest into the space the money that the funding that Kabir talks about. If you don't have a bunch of spaces over there for people to find, it's not going to be utilized and then the funding isn't going to come in. That's what I'm getting at is not about shilling, it's about providing

With a very, very great game coming out, I can't mention names. It's kind of low. There's another one of the low down things that I can't talk about, but I'll give you a little hint of how big this is. They built their own platform. They're not on any of the the regular platforms to build their game on. They built their own platform. I'm not going to say what because it's not out there yet. This is inside information, but basically in the game you're going to be able to go in the game and order

And if that don't tell you a little bit of something. So and they didn't know about NFT talk, I brought it up and they're like, holy crap, that's awesome. So that's what I'm talking about as far. If you can reach people like this by just giving them a little bit of information, helping them out, it's going to go further for you than the little bit of VSB you're getting from signing it up in my eyes. And because, you know, I think that's one of the reasons I aligned with so many big people. If yo

Always trying to help them and not asking for anything in return. And that's how we're going to grow as a community. If we keep thinking, oh, we're chilling and stuff like this, we're not going to get anywhere. Just try to help people, I think. And that's what could be have been doing from the beginning. That's why. And if you talk is freed, well, that's one of the reasons. But, and I've seen this from the beginning, I'm not sure how early I got in on it, but I know I was one of the first ambass

NFT talk if you if his algorithms worked in in the search engines, I guarantee you I was. I'm up in the top 10 for saying NFT talking spaces.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Um you know you are you are you are one-of-a-kind man meta and uh you know I am so honored to know you and and and the help that you provide to the community and the help that you provide to them if you talk is unbelievable. I mean you know this is just it just amazes me that how many people have started to see what we're talking about and it it is it is something that I I mean it'll take more time.

That trust is something you don't go ask for. You build it over the course of long term. I mean it'll take a few years for people to know. I mean like I I remember going into space when I was developing this and my guys what they used to do is that they in order to test they would say wherever commit goes follow the system would follow because there is no there was nobody was doing hashtag or nothing like that. You know it was all random spaces. So they it would just track me and then it was loo

I was not talking and then somebody said Ohh, you know what are you doing here. And I actually said ohh, yeah I'm just doing this and they got they got freaked out because they were thinking that Oh my God I'm just some sort of you know robots do that and people didn't want that but now everybody everybody lot of people. I don't say everybody a lot of people know about spaces are public your information is out there. But if it is sticks if it is made available for Google to consume if, if, if yo

The transcript, the audio to be found, somebody will have an interest in you out of all the web. Two people that ohh this person is interesting. I want to go meet this person on on a, on a on a on a, on a / a Twitter space. So that's what will happen. And I I think it's such a big possibility. I have already it has happened to me. It has happened to me. I have had zoom. I I have right now 3 outstanding zoom call requests that we want to zoom with you. And I just like like I told Baroness that th

The timing wise scheduling wise but I have three people that want to undocks themselves to me and just want to make sure that they know that they're real and they want to say hey we we like what you're doing and you're out there but we want we want to be out there too. But there is This is why we're not but has. So I'm like you don't have to do that to me. I mean it doesn't prove anything but then like it makes them feel better. I'm going to do it you know so it's really cool the community is yo

What are the most abused words in web three? Web three itself, you know, nobody understands. Most people don't know what Web 3 second would be the community. One of the words that nobody understands right is like ohh we community building community is right now here. You know the people that are connecting, building slowly, taking one step forward and then sometimes taking one step backwards because of something somebody says. But we are building the community onto their spaces among each other.

I I would say many of you here, you know, in the room would consider me as a friend. I do the same thing you know. And I have received phone calls from some of you, you know text messages from some of you. Why because you cared when I posted that my wife was in hospital and emergency thing. I got phone calls. I got flowers. Not real flowers. Virtual flowers. Can you imagine that? That is community, guys. That's my community anyway. So that's cool. I see lots of. I don't know oh, there was a coup

Yeah, I see. I see. New folks, if you want to talk, please. We were supposed to talk about NFT or die.

So.

Wanna be talk is that that's exactly what MP talk is.

Yes, and if you talk it and if you talk is part of NFT, but exactly so I am, I want to you know this, this, this, this short title really jives with me because you know for me to be on Twitter spaces is going to be about NFT or nothing.

You come here, talk politics. I will talk politics sometimes, but it is not my preferred. I would. I would talk about friendships, yes, but NFT is what I'm here for, I think. I don't know why a lot of people don't see it. The world is going to find an FT as an MP3. It's just the MP3 and NFTS, you know. It's the same thing what NFT MP3 did for music industry. NFT can do for the art industry. The artists never get paid.

The artists are going to get paid. I don't care if it is 100 bucks, you know? I don't care if it is, you know, a small amount of money, but they're gonna finally have a way to get paid directly to themselves. They don't need a publisher. Like when you write a book, how many of you ever thought of writing a book? How many? I mean, if, if, if you don't mind, share that with the with the emoji. But if you ever wanted to write a book.

In.

You know, imagine you know the process. You have to go through a publisher. I was lucky.

You know, when I was, I was I I want to say I was 95. So I was very, very young, right out of college. I got lucky that I wrote my first book.

You know, I didn't publish, I didn't want to write it. I didn't have any intention of publishing. I just gave 4 chaters because somebody on Internet say publishers associate editor, one of the editors found me on Internet on a on a newsroom and Usenet News Group saying hey Kabir, you are very vocal about this technology. Could you try some chapters for a book that we are working on and the published author is this person and you can contribute for I'm like ohh sure Mike hands he's my hero.

I don't know my kids. Of course I'll write 4 chapters. I wrote 4 chapters and forgot about it. Then I ended up writing the whole book because they liked my work more than the actual Mike. My my hero.

I didn't want to do that. I'm like, no, they're like, no, you write that book because this is where he, my cans wants you to write this book. So because he said, OK, these chapters are so technical, let's have him write it. You know, because I'm, I was trying to write a general nonspecific. So I ended up writing the first book or you know, a 95 published in 96 about web programming guys.

Where you are at in 96, what do you do? Doing some of you are not born probably like knowledge probably but but you know, I was writing Web programming book in 9696. I had 25,000 copies in my head, not my hand, meaning the publisher. So going through the publisher process was lucky for me. But if you wanted to go through a large scale publisher like Penguin or Pentris Hall or or willies, that's a lot of work. So same thing with artists.

Parties cannot get published. Meaning you know they it's much harder. Spotify is make it much easier for musicians to go out there even though they they they basically rip you alive. I mean they they just take all all the monies. Now musicians, artists, everyone can try their own thing directly and make the maximum and have a royalty stream, which is unbelievable. So that's what gets me excited about NFT. Yeah Madam, go ahead.

Yeah, I guess I am a not published but I'm on Amazon or was on Amazon Kindle with the Hemp book and this is something else that you guys are you know we're all sitting here learning this industry. You can write little books, magazine type books and on Amazon Kindle for free and help people and ongoing people that way. Also make a few dollars like I did pull my book off because it's about hemp and it's been a few years. So some of the data in there has has advanced and I didn't want to look like.

Had a date because that's what I was out of date. So I did pull it, but I made a few bucks on it and it was a good experience for me. And I did teach a lot of people that's coming into the hemp industry how to go about it. And I may write another one on web three and what I've been going through the last, you know, year here.

So I'll I'll share a where we're off topic but I will uh the reason we're talking about is that you know this is the the NFT is the MP3. NFT is the interest. NFT is going to make artists industry come become an industry for every day artist not for the the the you know the prominent ones that are already out there but it's everyday artist will have a shot at you know writing that book right now you can exactly like Mara said you can actually go publish on Kindle and make a make a book artists ar

Amazon are these are not putting their jpegs on Amazon because it makes no sense with NFT it does because it creates a scarcity of ownership and so that's what we're doing we're saying I like to you promise me Mara that you're going to make 10 copies of this you Mara says I do and matter releases 10 copies on on boys now I buy one of them. I feel so good I have one of the 10 now media makes you know makes it on the front page of New York Times as the NFT artist of the year now that.

One of the 10 copies is worth a lot more. Is that what I'm I'm bought matters out for? No. But can that happen? You bet it will happen. It will happen. It doesn't have to be New York Times. I'll give you example.

You know how many television stations are out there? They're trying to get information about new things. If you can just manage to get into your local news about your NFT work, you are going to get requests from restaurants. You're going to get requests from, you know, doctor's office, family offices, law firms that actually and you know, have decorators that decorate their walls with art instead of NFT, and the unknown art to replace them with NFT art.

And support the local artists man I am already there to talk about this with the Chamber of Commerce in Roseville. I'm I'm not from this year I'm getting ready to say can we have a movement art movement here can we have restaurants and and doctor's offices and and you know offices and others that are much easier to replace art with because home I'm trying to do this in my home the biggest problem is my wife controls the the walls you know she she doesn't want to give up.

Some some spaces she's like, no, that's not changing. We have this for a decade. We are not changing that. I'm like I want to update that. No that's not, that's not she's not allowed. She's not allowing me to do that. But she allowed me in areas where she doesn't really care much. So that allows me to change a whole bunch of art with NFT art. And I cannot wait to do that so that I can somebody can come into my home, check this new artist. So where did that come from? Oh, that's one of 10 or that

And the QR code on it. I'm not going to put an FNF NFC chip on it or nothing like that. I I thought about this, that's also possible. But I'm not into that. I'm just gonna say scan the code lands in the NFC talk gallery for them, for that artist. And they're like, oh, now you can get art from that person. So ethnicity, interests, all this will play in art now because people would like to support their culture. People who want to support their, you know, language, culture, border, whatever, they

That way and I I see that happening and that's why I'm I'm a big believer in NFT and not for not for huge sale like $1,000,000 million dollar. I'm about $10.20 dollar $5 art. I'm about the small art that we can collect and not feel bad about it like instead of buying it you know, going to Starbucks for two days.

I can buy a piece of art from land Nigeria and make someone really, really, really happy. And that is what I'm. I feel good. I have a piece of art and I help the kid in Nigeria. How about that? Tell me you can. You cannot do that. I mean just replace 2 drinks twice. You know, 2/2 of your one meal, 11 visit to Chick-fil-A.

Is equal to buying a piece of art from somewhere else and I posted some some data recently. I cannot tell you that Nigeria and China are the biggest countries for NFT right now, right now in the last 12 months.

Don't ask me why.

India is India's cracking. We Indians break it out with with all crypto watch.

I mean, crypto is one thing I I think a lot of people are, you know?

So.

You know, crypto blockchain. Period. Not just crypto NFT. The whole blockchain situation is going crazy over there.

Mara, you have to understand I I know a bit a thing or two about India. You know the the issue is.

Ohh yeah, it's huge.

In countries where money, what do you earn and what you paid as tax is a big gap. OK, II has a big gap. So they are trying to use crypto for the wrong purposes. OK, there is a lot of people trying to put money in crypto to avoid taxation and that's going to get caught and it's going to give crypto a bad name and watch, watch Mark my word for that.

At India is gonna ban crypto five times over, just like China does five times over every day. So these countries are going through the phases, OK. They are trying to learn, they're trying to abuse some of it first and they're going to learn the real value. Real value is not in transaction yet the monetary transaction yet real value is utility is coming from NFT by providing a membership, by providing art, providing all this. Those are the things I see really happening.

You're right. Oh yeah.

You know in a big scale and financial transactions are gonna be washed over and when somebody gets screwed because some incentivized game D5 fails, the India is going to say ohh, we're not gonna let this happen again. Big rule, big rule and they're gonna do that. We we have done this out in in US already and we we we shocked everyone and controlled it and now everybody's afraid to touch D5. You know I have heard VC say you say the word DFI I walk the other way. They would walk the other way beca

Hey project hello.

And project is here project Brother how are you?

Mr Council is here.

You guys have speaker.

Yeah, we got the crew. We got Miss Jen here. Astro here, project here.

Ohh my what is Jen Jen what?

It's like a family reunion up in here.

With you especially matter because you've been missing in action. I and and Jen, you and Jen project is filling in the gap. You missing an action project comes over and shows the love man and we we love him back and Mr console, same thing and blame has been constant, constant, constant blaming. Knowledge has been with me. Wherever they go, I go.

It's it's definitely a family. I feel good. I feel good. So thank you. Jan, how are you? You know, you're listening mode, but project, how are you? How are you?

I'm doing good, Mr Kabir matter had Dijon. Hello Baroness. Hello and blam. Well, everybody. I also wanna say hi to you every single one of you. But the list is long and can be already did it, so I'm not gonna be doing it again. That's a little bit redundant but.

There's one thing that we all keep miss.

Missing when it comes down to the value of not just universities but crypto on the web 3 space because.

In web three, everything is open through the Ledger. So the one key of like one key that we're missing is as far as value is information like the information that you ask the.

As a founder can get through, it is ridiculously amazing. But even more as a government, what they're looking into is the information of transactions and where they're going and how they're shuffling through, because again, everything is on the open Ledger that is available for everyone.

That that is so true. That is so true. But before I, before somebody else talks about it, I want to ask, are you in the Web 3 Summit panel? Are you in the speaker panel?

Damn.

I am not. I am not. I did not come to find out about it until way after the fact. They already had their their spots fill. I did fill out the application just in case a spot opens up, but no, I am not part of this. A Web 3 panel. I wish I was man, I wish I was.

So yeah, I you know how I know that? I was reading through the transcripts.

I was reading through the transcripts of the big space that happened, uh, with Marybeth and uh, you know, the the lawyers and Mary Beth, and you were looking for that. And so I said, you know, in the project was so excited about this, I'm going to read this transcript. So that's when I was like, OK, what did he talk about? So I just was saying, saying that you were talking about this summit thing. So you're in the waiting list then.

I think so. I don't know how they work. I know I, I, I, I submitted the application uh for consideration, but I don't know how that works so I don't wanna say yes because I really don't know.

Uh, we just have to make our own summit someday.

Ohh 1000%.

So we just have to, we just have to say all the people who didn't get into the other summit, summit, the summit of this, of the others.

The summit of summits.

Yeah. So it was, what? Is it virtual or do you actually have to go there?

No, you have to go there. It is physical. It's actually being held throughout the weekend of the Art Basel, which is great.

I'm trying to get tickets to actually go to the to the actual, not the event. Well, I want to go to the event even if I'm not a speaker, just because it when when you're talking about those summits and those events, it's not always to list it, you should listen. But it's also because you want to be able to actually get to see who goes and build those connections in real world and be able to actually show your face and be like, hey, I'm a real person, I am the person behind X account.

Right. And people are gonna be able to actually put a face and a person to that PFP or that profile picture that they've been seeing and they've been talking to on on an almost daily basis, if not a daily basis, right. And those, like, there's a very big misconception, for example, with the whole vicon where people like, oh, I want to go to here, let Gary Vee listen. I want to go because, you know, Grant Cardone or whoever is going to be, I'm like me personally, I really don't.

Don't care about them though. It it not that I don't care as far as like ohh, they're like they have their place, they have their time. But I I am not very into that, you know.

1% of the people that are like ohh, it, it's for me, it's more about building the connections than actually can, like building those relationships with the people that are there because that is more valuable than the speeches that they're going to be speaking. And I say that because.

They're going to be talking about the same thing that we talk about on a daily basis here in spaces like the information is nothing new. The information like it, like if I was speaking, I promise you that they would be asking me a question that I've already answered thousands of times up here in the spaces. You know, like we keep repeating the same information, but that's just because there's new people that show up to this place is every single time new people show up. And we have to keep repea

And even with that, I still see people that are like ignoring a lot of a lot of red flags when building a project that we're promoting a project. And it's like we can say things until we're blue in the face, but until people are willing to actually listen and learn, nothing's really gonna change until somebody gets burned, right? And when we go to this summit or this seminars, a lot of the information is information that we already heard, that we already know and we're like, yeah.

Preach. Say it. Say it louder. But it's it's again, it's the same information. So it's more valuable for the connections that you're able to build through those summits, through those seminars, with the people that go, rather than the actual speakers.

True I I've never.

That's my personal opinion. Again, I I could be completely wrong. It could be information that you've never heard before, but at least to me and the ways that I've seen those.

Those those things being presented, it's it's been a little bit of a delay down I I really hope that and especially with the the types of speakers that they have in this summit like I really hope that it's more tailored to the community than a a salesmanship of by this course.

Because that's been the main way that they've done this type of seminars, and it's been a little bit disheartening to say the least.

There are very few people out here just giving information for free, it seems like, and that's one of the things I like about Kabeer and what he's doing is it is free and is very helpful and that's why I joined from the beginning.

Uh.

Yeah, I agree.

Yeah.

Yeah, these are events.

Go ahead. Go ahead knowledge.

No, yeah, these events, like a lot of them, are trash. Like it's not really worth the money. You know what's worth the money? Going to the side events. Like if it's like a big event, go to the side events. The side events are free and you could do the network. It's all about the network. And fuck the speakers. The speakers don't even talk about nothing you would really care about anyways.

No, they just want to talk about what they're selling.

You heard that could be here. So if I would have been a speaker would have been like fuck project.

Astro.

The first time I had to use a bad word in my space, Sir, put the soap in your mouth.

You get busted.

The change jar.

What? What? What happened? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There's this is a pretty account. I'm sorry. I apologize.

We caught you.

Where's the change jar?

We're gonna mute, delete, delete the account. Ohh yeah you gotta get put money in the swagger. Hey Mr console, how are you?

That oh.

Pastor, are you there, buddy? He's been having a little bit of connection problems, so.

Right.

Ohh I see, I see. So now yeah. Ohh there's a request. Yeah. Yeah I thought I did that. And Jen, I don't know how. I mean, when I was cleaning up, I I think by mistake I I have unfollowed you. But I followed you back. But that was a mistake. And I'm just thinking was there anything changed in your account name because I know that I put in exception that. Anyway nice to see you here. Yeah. So.

So there there's several djams profiles running around now so.

Really.

Yeah, she's she's got herself a little crew going.

Ohh my goodness I've been so freaking excited. Yes I've been so freaking excited cause like at one point I see somebody that asked me that actually has DJ's current BP or one that looks like it. I was like wait, she unfollowed me and followed me back and then I go to account, I'm like oh that's somebody else. And it's like it's been just so dope to seeing like the little Dutch Hound Army just like scamper in into like different spaces and it's been freaking awesome.

Yes indeed, I'm loving it.

Jen.

Thank you. Thank you, guys. Hey, Kabeer project meta, fairness and everybody else in the room, blim.

Um, yeah, no, nothing's changed in regards to my actual profile Twitter handle. It's still degenerate or actually at degan dachshunds.

Umm.

So the person that's helping marketing now, she's created like 5 different accounts, Twitter accounts with a different dogs so that when she goes into a room she can have all these little PFP's of the different dogs.

So I think that kind of helps. But she is in so many spaces. I just don't even know how she does it. I mean, I think she's on spaces maybe 19 hours a day. I mean, it's unbelievable.

I had one of your little docs on my lap for a while, but then I I got my shibushi and I've I got a cuddle it, you know what I mean?

So.

That's not right, meta.

Hi, Jen.

I'm sorry.

Hi Jen, I just see, I know that you are using dachshunds in your PFP, but that's not a real NFT. I'm using the real NFT version. I just looked it up. Your one is your one is just a picture.

Yeah, what she did, what she did was, um, she wanted to kind of enlarge the.

The head part, yeah, yeah.

Phase so that people could see.

So.

Hmm. That's, that's what I I figured because because my one is showing the whole, whole and the whole body. So that's what I'm like, hey, how does she do that? So let me go see if because NFT's, when you select NFT's, they don't allow you to change the size of it. They just, you know, they just make it themselves. So yeah.

No, it's it's.

Alright, because it's the actual NFT itself. So what you would need to do is just take a screenshot, a screenshot of your of your dodge hound and like zoom in until you get the paint.

No, I, I, I know that, I know that. But I don't want to do that. I want to show the real NFT, I mean.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hmm.

I I'm like you, Kabir. I like the whole little ducks and the whole little sausage, that little cute little Wiener dog. I I don't. I don't like actually just showing the head. I like the whole dog because I think that's what makes it unique, because that's the whole point. The sausage dog is adorable because of the length of his body. So.

Yeah. But thank you.

Sure, sure.

Are you here, Astro? Did you get up?

No, um, so yeah, we were just talking about basically NFTS and other things, but as usual, but so you've been good. I mean, you haven't talked to you like Jen for weeks.

Yeah, I, I'm good. I just have a lot going on and trying to go to some of the spaces with that person that's handling the marketing and everything. But yeah, just have a lot going on in real life.

No.

So I will be I told this to the dude to you I mean I think some of you know VAC right the the VAC center, the mesh mesh mesh and Jodie.

Yeah.

Mish, Mr Mission, Jody. They are awesome, beautiful. Just great people all the way around.

Yeah, I'm very, very nice people. So what I have, because he's also doing a project where he has a big super big exhibition. This is not a mini spatial and project you should connect, you should connect there. I mean, you have your own spatial, but have you talked to Vic?

The fix center.

Ohh.

So so.

So some.

I don't think I he knows because that's me and project Cochran vex based way before I think you met. That's one of the places I think I met project was at mission space. But yeah you should talk to them about getting into the winter Wonderland every all you artists. Jan you too go if you I'll invite you the space I think but it's 2:00 o'clock every day Pacific Time. I don't I think what is at 1:00 o'clock your time.

Mara, you don't know this alpha, so the vet center is going to be featured in NF Talk home page. So the other day I went and talked to Jody and mish about it is she already delivered everything I need for my team to incorporate. We are in the home page where you there is a wasted space of where there is a scrolling heads of live people, which is absolutely nobody looks at it. So we're going to remove that and we're going to put it featured project. They're not paid, nobody's paying us.

Guys we don't collect money but featured project in a vex center is going to be there first. And the reason I'm doing this is to also track is anybody going to the vet center from NFP Talk which is basically our internal affiliate system is getting a little bit of testing and I have not told Jodie to link it up yet but she has given me all the assets needed. So you will see VEX Center but very soon along with VEX Center as soon as vendor is working we will start promoting these are promoted.

Uh, these are our promotions, so it's gonna be just NFT talk recommended projects that you can see. So it's going to be a section, it's not a fan page, it's not you being able to create those but it is a featured presentation. It'll say on the bottom none of these projects have been have any financial monetary connection with us. We did this with the best of our abilities. We vetted them as best of our abilities. No other do your own research but blah you know there will be a blood description d

Artists, NFT projects and you know the other projects that's going to be there is going to be the projects that I support, the projects that I have NFT for, I'm going to, I'm going to showcase them because I have every founder that is involved in those projects. I know them. So I'm going to say these are so kind of like you know like featured, featured, featured projects on the home page just to see and our ability to track the are people clicking on it and then we have our ability to report to

You know if we talk we put this up and here is what people are clicking on. Now one of the other things where this feature projects are going to show up is this is basically testing the fan page without the fan page. The fan page component module is that we have now every single space in the archive now links to a local URL like if you click on the archive any any of the space the the title it'll take you to a page which is either has a transcript and all the download options like you know MP3.

All the download options and the and the transcript right there. You will also see link to featured page and featured page is going to show up there. So you will see we recommend this project. We recommend this project feature this project and so you will see that kind of content now appearing in NFT talk very soon. I mean it's just a vaccine will be the first one to go because I really like what they did. I explored the project. I went through the whole thing. You know really liked the sound yo

Too beautiful?

Notice and amazing at yeah yeah, she is so.

They also have a space I don't know that they're working on, Jodie's working on, and another gallery you might want to check out. The spatial gallery that exhibits for free is the White Horse Gallery. Stacy's doing a great job there also.

Yeah, I think Geller galleries are uh, great place because it gives you an experience. It's amazes people like you know, if you're new to web three and you've heard of the word NFT. I also shared by the way, I went to Google Trend and anybody can do that. It's, it's free tool. I said, you know, show me the NFT and crypto traffic and they showed me and then I said what I wanted to know what the keywords are and you will see the top keywords are very basic NFT meaning people are asking what does N

And you know so the idea is that people are still wondering about basics of NFT. So if we have galleries and they can experience that and they would see like ohh, these are the art. These are the gallery itself is overwhelming you know the whole experience of walking through a gallery now his one is a VR gallery so you can actually walk through the VR goggles. But I've done this with the phone. I have not done this with the Oculus Rift yet but I think he mentioned Vic mentioned that it you can d

Yeah.

Well, they have. They had the VC, the center, which is a 3D tour, but they also have which you can use goggles in there too, but they also have the space show. It's a man. It's pretty cool too. The joke, I've seen bits and pieces, I haven't seen the whole thing because it's still in the works, but it's pretty sweet also. So, and you're going to be able to get from there the vet Center V Center into that gallery and they're going to be hooking up with other galleries, like you'll be able to walk

Basically another spatial, completely separate.

Can you imagine the biz. I mean this is what gets me excited about NFTS that imagine virtual gallery owners getting ticket sale getting sponsorship deals getting feature artists getting all kind of deals are about to happen. This is what I see. It's like a virtual showroom right virtual space and people would value the one that curate the best people who value the ones that are always the you know beautiful and and and and curated versus the one that like.

Just takes everything. So I see. This is why I think the people are gonna start making money with tools. I mean, you know, you don't have to do you know, you don't have to go stake your crypto and make money. That's why do it if you like to do it. I've done enough of that to know how dangerous it is. But I will tell you that I rather have a gallery that somebody wants to rent a corporation says we love your gallery. It has millions of people coming in because there's another traffic source for f

To say VEC your gallery is getting 10,000 you know footprint part VR sessions per month. We like to put a Nike stall in there and we're gonna pay you know $2000 per month for that. It is completely feasible in my mind that it's going to happen. It's it's that's why this is the investment that mesh has made and Jodie has made. They have routinely been available and and and grinded it and and built on top of it as they built. You know they talked about it and this is what I like about this whole w

Deal. The space is that we can actually build it right now and nobody knows you. You will be the like you know like you know people talk about like on the web if you if I only had the this domain or that thing well that's your chance. You you will have that you know right now the galleries are wonderful you know real estate wonderful. I also see other type of real estate as better versus in the come through other side of real estate but galleries are the best.

One, in my opinion, because I'll give you an example, every culture has their cultural things. I actually don't know. I mean, I I'm not motivated enough, but I could easily make a Bengali culture. This is the Bengali is the Bangladeshi culture. It's it's spoken by 150. Two, 100 million people speak this language. I could make a gallery online and I will be able to put food, traffic, millions. I should do that. I should actually do that. But that's too many.

Projects in my head I I could just make a gallery and then have you know, probably put it 11. What are those things called? God, big billboard. Exactly. I know where to put it in Bangladesh in in the capital city and say go there with your phone with your beer girl mostly not Virgo. I would get foot traffic left and right because people would just want to experience their culture and things through this virtual world. So I see this happening for every continent, everybody, and as I I strongly ar

You know, gallery, concept and curation. You you can if you have a taste for art, you can curate art and do a lot in in the in the future. Yeah meta, go ahead.

But I wanna add that the B center is not just about, well, the the the 3D tour is all about art, but the spatial they're working on is a lot more than that. Holy crap. It's something else. Like right now they're working. Jodie's working on a maze. Hopefully they she does it for Halloween because that's coming up, and I think that was part of the plan. But the maze is inside a castle, and you got to run around, try to find your way out. There's Easter eggs, there's trapdoors, there's there's thin

Cool. So I I just, I'm so excited for them and what they're doing. It's not. But it's not just about art, it's about fun. It's about experience that they're bringing to the table, and that's something that I'm working on on the download too. It's experiences to mesh IRL with Web 3, and that's what they're working on also. So once all this stuff comes into play, we're going to bring that mass adoption in with things like this. How many people can sit in their home and go into a castle with a maze

With all this stuff, you know it's just going to be very, very cool in the next year when all this stuff comes out.

I also see significant educational you know things that are possible signal students these days like you know like my my son is 8th grade in 8th grade and they're they're class is deciding to go to East Coast for a tour. And we just came we just did that tour. The tour that they're going to do we already did that in summer but they're they they they want to do a tour. Now the problem the school school had to take that project offline meaning give it to make it.

The non uh requirement because they cannot afford the funds. They don't have the funds because it costs a couple $1000 per student. So they they decided that some people might complain. So the the program is now kind of like, you know, tabled as a volunteer only and you know just. But they could experience instead of spending $2000 per student, what if they gained 10 galleries, $200.00 and say we want our student to experience all this other stuff.

Uh, through your galleries for the whole summer, you know, and then you know, and the students can. And then it did the student actually go? How many actually went? How many actually looked at this? How many actually spent the time on this object or that all this is possible to collect? It's going to be a beautiful world in the future of education. We through these things. So art is going to be front center because visualization is not about just models start 3D models of objects. It's about, yo

Which is, which is just takes you somewhere else. I am not. I did not appreciate art until eight months ago. I I was just an engineer that did not look at art other than pretty. And now I see the cultural connection, I see the educational connections, I see all that. And I'm really excited about the future for that. So that's really cool. Go ahead, Mara.

Yeah, I think education is going to be a key factor in bringing people in on boarding to web three as far as like I'm teaching people how to drive big rigs and and just all kinds of experience things also not just art, arts, just one little part of what's about to happen in the industry. We're talking from hot air balloon rides to race tracks to whatever you can think of in IRL is going to be put into web 3 into meta verses. And that's really what I because you're going to be able to go.

Also dancing with Mish because that's what he does for in IRL. He's a salsa teacher. He has. I think that's why they don't do Friday night or Friday shows, because he's teaching people how to salsa dance. So you're going to be able to go and have a salsa teaching experience with mish. That's what part of their game plan is. And this, like I said, this is just part, a little tiny piece of what's happening as far as education. I'm learning how to be a diesel mechanic, learning how to do real world

Almost hands on, because you're going to be in the glasses and you're going to be able to almost be exactly like you're doing it for real.

Go ahead, roject.

The project.

Appreciate and this is the thing like.

It's not just reserved to the online experience, it also does transfer into real world events and if you are in a location that allows you to be at that event, the NFT itself would be your ticket or your access token to be able to participate and actually go in person. Yes, the digital world is amazing and it has shown us a lot of growth and that opportunity. With that said it.

Web three, it's not just something that is exclusive to digital digital give me one second, I it is some. It is a tool that gives us the access to have experiences both in the digital world as well as in real life. Like, personally like this is a tool that would be used.

And provides value to a, the Community B artist and and for me artists are pretty much anybody that is providing something that is of value that is based on what they like to do. Because I do see art in everything. For example as a developer that is an art because it is not everybody can do that. Being a teacher is a, it's a form of art. Being a business owner and an entrepreneur that is an art.

In itself because like when you look at these things and and part of the reason that we kind of go ohh ah to both celebrities that are an actors who are athletes who are entrepreneurs is that glamour of that glamour of oh is because we see the art in it without realizing that that in itself is art. It is a special skill that somebody possesses that they're able to teach your pass down to other people.

We are the way that they carry themselves via the way that they're able to provide entertainment value to others. And that's why there are so many. For example, YouTube channels of people that do real world work, whether it's in landscaping, whether it's in mechanics, whether it's, you know, providing content, it's because and people watch other people do things like that because it's a form of art. It's a representation of.

Alright, so when we're talking about art and NFTS, it's not just excluded to the visual effect of it, which is a beautiful component. It actually goes deeper than that. And it's a tool that people are going to be able to use either as an artist or as a developer or as a business owner that allows us to provide value or added value to the community in everyday functionality.

Yeah, ticketed, gated, um, all kinds of different things are going to come into play to bring that mass adoption we all want. The biggest thing we got to do is learn it and teach it. That's our, our job right here, right now to talk about it. And that's why I keep telling people, hey, get them hashtags and these banners because that's the number one way we're going to grow NFT talked that we all want and bring people into the space.

So I just sent Kabir a link, actually a pink picture to NFT.

Or died. Do you see that picture picture. I don't.

I don't see it. This is kind of new to me, this new Twitter as far as sharing.

I PFP and everything.

I just sent you a new PFP of a dachshund with a new background somebody minted last week.

She.

And it is adorable. I just. I just love my little Doxie. So I just wanted to share it to you, share it with you. Because it's just so cute.

Did you did you send it to DM?

No, it's in the little box down below on the right.

Go a little spacecraft or.

The.

Ohh yeah. Ohh yeah I see it. Ohh wow. That's nice. See that would be something that uh you know for my for my kids room. Let me see that looks what what does it say? OK. So yeah, I mean I have I yeah. There was no most most of them were single color background. Right. Or or some not single color maybe some gradients.

Yeah, most, most of them are just single color from what I saw. But yeah, that's cool.

There's there's single colors, there's a bone background, there's the.

They ship and I think there's one more different background. I think there was just different colors. And then there were three different backgrounds that weren't solid colors.

And and is that the Lakers jersey? Is is that for Kobe? Is that for Kobe?

This is for Kobe. He's yeah.

Awesome.

That that it looks dull.

And then the people peppermint mean like they're like, I know I told Dijon this, uh earlier, or at least I tweeted about this because like that word for it, right? When we hear fun, we'd hear fear, uncertainty and doubt. And then when I receive my my little dachshund, like I saw that he had that Fudd hat and I was like, there needs to be a better there needs to be a good way to also think about FUD, which is future under development, which at the same time.

Like when you're thinking about your future, yeah, you have fear because you uncertainty and you're doubtful of what's going to come. But at the same time it's like you are developing your future. So for me, I like, I've started to think more about food as fear, future under development.

Yeah, I'd love. I love that you've used the acronym in that way. But when I got into the space like last October and I started working on my project in October, early November FUD, when you were in Discord, FUD was not a good thing, but everybody was saying FUD, you know, it's fun and everything. So these dachshunds are based, a lot of their clothing and their traits are based from discussions and discord and everything, so.

That's why I use that on their FUD.

Ohh, definitely makes it makes it relatable right because it's it is a a key phrase as well as Alec because I do see, I do know that some of them have that LFG acronym as well. And it's like it just brings you know awareness to the lingo that we use here. Because at least in my experience when like I've explained I've talked to people about the the verbiage that we use or like they get my book like that they get an early release of the ebook that I that I'm having published.

They're like, hey, I see that you have a couple of words that are misspelled. I'm like, they're not misspelled like that's how we. That's how they're being used. They're like, wait, what? I'm like, yeah, like instead of build being BUILD, it's BYDLI. Don't ask me why they chose it that way. Somebody messed up on a tweet and then we ran with it.

Yep, Yep.

Yeah, these little, these little dachshunds are just really originated you know when the NFT space got big, so everything pretty much.

Is relatable to the NFT space. I mean, really they're a lot of their clothing traits, you know, have the information from discord or just your talk, Twitter talk and everything, as well as their hats or their bone collars. So they're truly little vegans from the NFT space or in the NFT space.

I'm speaking about dogs. I have to take her to the vet, so I gotta cut out so I can get ready. Don't have too much fun. Pleasure seeing everybody, Jan. Always a pleasure. My girl. Project glam. Better dance, kabeer.

Thank you, brother.

Good seeing you, Madam.

All my friends? Yeah, it's been great. Like a big family reunion. I wish Astor could have came up and talked because I haven't been updated on his project for a while. But yeah, been a pleasure. Don't have too much fun without me.

Thank you, Mara. Nice seeing you after a long time. Very good. Uh, yeah. So talk to you soon.

Hi, meta.

So yeah, I I do want to also close up soon because I do have to do other things and I'm sure everybody else. But it's been fun seeing all of you as actually it's just me. And Baroness started it and she's always driving. She's probably driving now. She's, she's whenever we try to talk, she's always driving. And then I got cut off yesterday and she was driving. I was driving, then I couldn't get back. And so we're trying to get get back into space and talk about NFC talks. So I threw this.

And my my title I I I don't know how you like guys like it I love it and FT or die it's simple it's it's either get it or don't just just get out of here so I I am I'm just razor focused on NFT in in terms of web three I only think of NFT how do how does it benefit the everyday folks and like like Project says it's not just art it's going to be all forms of NFT there's you know I personally AM.

Catering right now to the artist because I think that's the easiest product to get out there. It is the IT is the pretty product. There's millions and millions of people have art. They have never sold it. You just put a you just put a billboard out there saying God, art, do NFT. You know, basically people are going to say what they are going to look for their NFT because it it is the so many people have been drawing, are creating content, creating art and they just never could sell.

And if they could sell a little bit, if they could just get a glimpse of selling their artwork and get get getting that thing going, they will be so motivated to just do so much wonder for that person. And so that's one thing, but it is beyond that. Like Project said, it is beyond art, it is everything. And you know, tokenizing a lot of things is going to happen and NFT is just one type of one such token technology. So yeah, go ahead.

No problem.

I I do want to mention one thing, sorry to interrupt, but there was I met someone in his face and her name is Kathy and she actually does podcast and she does her podcast sometimes live on YouTube. So recently she's been doing podcasts with people from Singapore, CEO's that are getting into the metaphors creating, the metaphors people creating.

Metaverse car companies and things like that, which is very, very interesting. She's trying to help expose, you know, more of the NFT's over here in this country and get more people. She's actually onboarded people by showing how to create a meta mask live and have them live mint. Like I think that's what you were trying to do project. And so she is going to host my project I think next week.

The person that's doing my marketing will be on her YouTube podcast with the individuals from Singapore.

So it should be interesting.

Let.

Like I I love that. I love that because yeah, through uh through open source we are gonna be rolling out in a basic NFT course which teaches people the basics of, you know, how we got to Web three. It teaches them about like the the things to look out for when looking into projects. It teaches them on how to create their their wallet, pretty much an A through Z of the basics including mint.

Jan, when you when you have that space, let us know. Maybe we can go and support your project.

I will. I will definitely do that.

Awesome, awesome. Alright guys, let's close this app. I am. I do need to do a couple other things and it is Thursday, so hopefully everybody will have a good weekend and we'll talk soon.

It was good seeing you, Kabir, and everybody project Lim and everyone bearing us, everyone in the room. Have a good day.

Alright.

Take care everybody. Appreciate your career.

Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, everyone. OK, bye. OK, thank you. Bye.