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October 12th, 2022
Hey, you fucking labbits.
dcbk2laGoogle puffs.
dcbk2laWhat up, VP?
dcbk2laWell, it's simply a fucking MVP.
dcbk2laI'm alright. How are you?
mvpuae_ethSugar puff, I'm doing good. What's happening?
dcbk2laI'm thinking about just changing my name around every every so often. I've got 170 plus of them so.
mvpuae_ethWell, you wanna know something?
dcbk2laTopping.
mvpuae_ethPeople tell me. They tell me that I'll never, ever sell a domain name because I keep switching my shit so much. But I'm like, I change my PFP, not my name. Geniuses get with it.
dcbk2laGo fuck.
dcbk2laYeah, that's something.
mvpuae_ethJoshie, what's up?
dcbk2laHow's things, anyway?
mvpuae_ethOhh sugar puff. Things are good bro. Things are good man. Trying to get updated on all the different ecosystems, you know what I'm saying? Seeing what's going on.
dcbk2laThat shit was crazy.
dcbk2laI think that Google and the Coinbase moves come pretty handy for all of us.
mvpuae_ethYeah, we, we dissected this last night, bro. And that's like, like Google, as if Google really leads like a payment provider, you know what I mean? Like it's fucking crazy. Like they could have easily done this whole shit themselves, but they thought it would be great.
dcbk2laTo get in bed with Coinbase, which is good for us and not the best for.
dcbk2laUs sometimes.
dcbk2laI think I think Google has done it as a as a move to deter anybody else from going to probably cause Binance is.
mvpuae_ethOhh yeah.
dcbk2laI remember him saying I don't know how many. I remember him an interview over here in in Dubai. He was saying that Binance have done, I don't know how many trillions in transactions over the last year or summer. So I think Google thought they've already got their own payment platform.
mvpuae_ethHmm.
dcbk2laSo instead of instead of, you know, spending millions and billions trying to create the same thing over again and switching it over to Coinbase. I don't. I don't know, I'm just, this is just my guess. They might have lost loads of custom two coin base and thought it's best getting in bed with them.
mvpuae_ethI don't know.
dcbk2laAnd maybe reboot, recouping more custom backing and getting new custom because Binance is actually just leading the way by a hell of a lot of them in it.
mvpuae_ethI mean, listen, coins making strides, I think they're like the number 2 fucking exchange right now in terms of dollar volume. They pass Coinbase, I don't know where what happened to FTX as of recently, but like I feel like FTX was like just like the traders and institutional traders. And if like, if that's slow, then everything else is slow for them. But like Binance just serves the most places, you know what I mean?
dcbk2laYeah, but I think, you know, Binance is a lot easier to use as well. OK, they've got that two step verification, it's very safe as well, but it's just, it's very, very easy to use. But I think just like Bitcoin, etherium and the two that are going to stay.
mvpuae_ethHmm.
dcbk2laThroughout, I think the same with Binance and Coinbase. I don't think anybody else is really gonna challenge will be people doing it on smaller, smaller, little scales, but I don't think anybody can actually challenge them, challenge them for that.
mvpuae_eth125.
mvpuae_ethI I don't think so either unless they start consolidating a lot and I think that's what ultimately that's what, that's how these things work, right? It's they.
dcbk2laI think.
mvpuae_ethEveryone starts off there's like a million different exchanges and then all of a sudden little by little, they start getting gobbled up, gobbled up, gobbled up. And I think the only one that's probably going to challenge Coin base would be FTX and maybe maybe of Gemini makes the right like acquisitions. I think the winkle by.
dcbk2laMight be able to do it.
dcbk2laBut I think it's a pretty good sign that now you can enter your.
mvpuae_ethChords. But it's just about getting these dot earth domains on there on Google search and then I think that's when the game will change.
mvpuae_ethYeah. And it's gonna happen. It's it's definitely gonna happen. Joshy, what's up?
dcbk2laWhat up bro? How you doing?
drjoshorbitalHow you feeling?
dcbk2laHmm.
dcbk2laI'm alright freaking or the oxycodone ain't doing shit for my shoulder, but.
drjoshorbitalThat's not good.
dcbk2laYeah.
dcbk2laDistract myself with the you and sugar. I thought you were like calling this dude a nickname. Like I made Joshi as fun. Funny thing cause a lot of people call me joshy as like a nickname and my family or whatever. But I'm thinking you're like calling him Sugar Puffs is like a nickname and and I realized he actually has sugar puffs. I think that's hilarious man.
drjoshorbitalBro sugar puff is infamous for never ever muting his mic and having the loudest thing to where I always have to mute his mic gram.
dcbk2laThanks.
mvpuae_ethYeah.
dcbk2laNo, man so.
dcbk2laI think we know kind of what went on today in the world of NS.
dcbk2laHow did you?
dcbk2laWhat went on?
drjoshorbitalNo, I'm saying like, I mean, I'm saying for me personally, like I thought it was great, like that space that I had, like with punks giving us that insight like that was helpful for me.
dcbk2laOhh, I must have missed that. What did I miss?
drjoshorbitalOh, you weren't. You were there, weren't you?
dcbk2laAnd I didn't hear what Punk said. So tell me what Punk said.
drjoshorbitalWell, like just basic.
drjoshorbitalOhh no I can't. I don't know how the hell gonna run down the legal jargon, but we essentially asked him a couple of questions. Like synopsis is like.
dcbk2laI can't really give it because he we I was asking like well who controls the doubt and he gave very like it was almost like lawyer answers where he's like they the the answer in law is never yes or no. He's like there's always going to be some sort of an explanation and I'm like well so who runs it down essentially like he kind of he filled me in on the way in which TNL and then the Dow are structured so it's an entity with it's a a Dow within an entity so they're they're.
dcbk2laWhat's it called in the Caymans? Right? So they're they're, they're incorporated in the Caymans. But it's an LLC, right? It's TNL that the Dow sits under.
dcbk2laSo now I'm like, OK, and the white ones were talking about it like he was referring to it as like a business, but I remember specifically Alicia telling me, don't look at it as a business.
dcbk2laAnd I was like alright, so it was a little bit weird, but he's essentially saying like if you're not wrapped like if you don't have the Bubba, if you don't have that like the DAP, like the the Dow wrapped in in another legal entity.
dcbk2laHe said it's almost like a general partnership.
dcbk2laHe goes well this way.
dcbk2laIt just makes it really fucking hard.
dcbk2laAnd and my buddy that was in their desk was just like, who does the buck stop with? That's what we want to know.
dcbk2laWho do we go see? Like who's making these decisions?
dcbk2laAnd it was like we don't know.
dcbk2laThere's steward, there's this. There's that it was.
dcbk2laYeah, it's still mad confusing, but what I ultimately said was.
dcbk2laI'm going to schedule this Twitter spaces with Nick and ultimately like I'm gonna ask the community for their questions. I want people to give their feedback, give their questions. What do they want to know? How dumb down do we have to get? And like what basic questions do we want to know the answers to?
dcbk2laWhether we like them or not.
dcbk2laUmm.
dcbk2laSo they can.
dcbk2laI agree.
dcbk2laI recommend so the person Gary is also like I'm kind of backing up Gary because I don't you know I I'm not as knowledgeable as him and he has he's a delegate with a lot of votes. So I'd recommend having Gary in the room too with Nick because then Gary has legitimate questions you know and it's not it's not he's not going to be insulting. He's not going to you know be out of line and Nick could have the questions first. But the fact that if if Gary gets up and ask a question and nick your answers
drjoshorbitalIf they start being personal and getting angry and you know they they're debs.
drjoshorbitalThat's already the foundation, though. Look at that. They look, they have already laid the foundation that they're like, like they're at each other's necks on fucking Twitter. They're not getting anywhere. And they know it. And that's what essentially brings out like, you're a cunt, right? Because it's like that boils over. It's not your comment that did it. It was the, like the tone, I guess, if you want to call it right in, what's it called in in Garry's responses, right. He's like, no, but yo
dcbk2laI agree.
drjoshorbitalRight, I read this whole, I read the whole thread and it's like none of it's productive. It's like, are you all looking to be right? You know what I'm saying? It's like, not you.
dcbk2laYeah.
dcbk2laWell, I think, I think Gary truly does. I don't think he's just saying stuff to be combative. I really think he doesn't understand that. I seriously don't understand.
drjoshorbitalYeah.
dcbk2laAnd these people are devs, they have an understanding on that level of devs and they work on this stuff. So they have all the information in their mind and they don't realize other people don't have that information. So when they when when Nick straight up says, yeah it does not require galvo. And then Jeff the other developer says yes it does require galvo. And I ask, you know, how are you on the same page? You're not. And they they say oh that's very insulting to say me and Nick are not on the
drjoshorbitalYeah.
drjoshorbitalLike that. And that's the thing, bro. And this is what I think a lot of people fail to understand is they fail to understand how people communicate over Twitter, on text in Twitter space, not in Twitter spaces. Not voice to voice over. Like when you're texting and there's words involved, OK, the communication can get very or the message, right. You know, message delivered is not always message received. The message can get lost. And what I mean by that is, well, how does it get lost? And it's li
dcbk2laEasy, simple way. But it literally does not come across because the person that's interpreting it or that's reading it already has something made-up in their fucking mind that, like, you know what, this guy's only fucking trying to like push my fucking buttons. I know it. Without you to be there and just be like, hey, this is just me asking a question like that. That's all I want. Nobody reads Twitter text, right? And it's like, this was said with just like a chill tone, right? It's there's alwa
dcbk2laYou get what I mean? We need to be like.
dcbk2laOhh yeah, I totally agree.
drjoshorbitalYeah, it's.
dcbk2laAnd I I just didn't think that would be possible to get Nick in a space because he's already. If I asked him that same thing the same way you did, I would be ignored. But.
drjoshorbitalMeaning I don't think so either. I thought anything was gonna say yes.
dcbk2laBut.
dcbk2laSo we'll hold them to that shit, cause literally, you know?
drjoshorbitalWithout trying to do I'm gonna tweet out tonight like I'm gonna yeah I'm gonna put it like out in the public yeah you know what I'm saying like.
dcbk2laThat's big, yeah. Announced that shit. Yeah. Also, I'll fucking yeah. Yeah. And I I wanna be there. And you don't even have to invite me up or anything. I literally just, you know, they can't just exclude people because they don't like what they have to say.
drjoshorbitalYeah, that's for sure. And I think it's a matter of like identifying where does Nick think that we have inefficiencies, where does the Community think that we have inefficiencies and how do we fucking resolve both, right? And if we could spend 60 minutes, 90 minutes with him just to ask just basic stuff, because I know that Dows are structured differently. How is this structured? Why are people saying that, like, oh, Nick has all this power, but like, blah, blah, blah. Like, why? Like, help me u
dcbk2laUnderstanding the structure behind it so that we can better understand how do we go about moving within this ecosystem? What's allowed, what's not allowed? How do we go about it?
dcbk2laAnd it's going to be telling, but I just hope that if I post it on Twitter that people aren't going to fucking.
dcbk2laNo, but like that's just, it's just not gonna drop it.
dcbk2laI know.
dcbk2laYes.
dcbk2laI mean you can't control other people, but you can't control your space. So you know they are big boys, brother adults. If they can't say I came at them saying something like that, they should be professional no matter how out of control the user is. Because there's there's there's people who are anonymous who are going to do way worse than me. I'm not malicious. Imagine someone malicious trying to get them to say something bad. They could probably do it pretty easily.
drjoshorbitalWhat was your question?
dcbk2laThe guy who called you that? Who who is he? He works. He's he's a steward.
dcbk2laOhh.
dcbk2laHe's a dev. He's an EMS dev bro.
drjoshorbitalReally.
dcbk2laLiterally. Yeah bro. That's what shocking me. And then Nick like like this post like.
drjoshorbitalHmm.
dcbk2laThey already are combative and they already don't like me because they know I'm a squatter because I I don't even have a lot of business names like literally thought jokes and stuff. But they do not like the fact that someone would make money over the Dow. The Dow should be making all this money that are, you know, they even wanted to do royalty fees on top of like secondary sales. So like when you sell your name with the Dow gets a percentage and that's that's some new rule that that that's tha
drjoshorbitalWhen they have enough money, they're not using it.
drjoshorbitalThat's the thing, yeah. If there was, if there was something there that may be justified, like them needing the money for, I'm surprised that they didn't do any royalties. Very surprised.
dcbk2laWell, to be honest, I don't think they'd have the adoption they did if they if they did something like that. I I wouldn't be in if I had to share you own something you own it for. I know we rent this stuff, but what I'm saying is it's not. You're still like.
drjoshorbitalIt's I I would give a percentage to the Dow as a donation. If they needed it and they knew they they were putting it to good use, I think people would literally give them money. But the fact that they want to extract value out of speculators after we supported them in the beginning.
drjoshorbitalDoesn't seem right.
drjoshorbitalBro.
drjoshorbitalIf you put.
drjoshorbitalYeah, I mean, that's the reason for all the money in the coffers now, isn't it? Like, it's pretty much like in like the speculators that are out here like trying to get a jump on everything. They're the one that's the speculators that drive the market, to be honest.
dcbk2laIf you take the $60 million and you take the 40,000 I put into it, it's a significant percentage and the fact that I got the same share of token distribution as someone who just bought one name.
drjoshorbitalOK.
dcbk2laMeans that they are not rewarding the people who supported them in the beginning. What they're doing is trying to evenly distribute governance to.
drjoshorbitalNot give people they know it's giving them money. They even as soon as the AirDrop comes. This is not free money. This is responsible. No, it's to do whatever you want to do with. If you want to use it to vote on the Dow, you do that. If you want to sell it because it's worth money, you do that. Trying to guilt people into not selling their tokens because it's some responsibility, and then we don't even have clarification on how our tokens work or what it's used for. It is ridiculous.
drjoshorbitalYeah.
dcbk2laI mean, my whatever it was, my 5060 tokens probably wouldn't made the biggest difference, but they damn sure had made a nice fucking payday. Surprise payday with my one name and I'm I'm I'm a recipient of that fucking rule. The one. The one named fucking rule.
dcbk2laI.
dcbk2laI mean I really again, I don't have a problem with it, but it shows that they are not rewarded. Imagine you any other AirDrop, they reward based on activity and investment. This AirDrop was based on some egout he say egalitarian or whatever, but he's not being egalitarian, he is acting like a dictator because a lot of these decisions are made in back rooms with the with the, you know, stewards and everything they they assign these stewards, they they assign people that aligned with.
drjoshorbitalTheir values and and what they want essentially anyone no one's gonna tell Nick no that the aunt that's on board and that's dangerous because it should be just it shouldn't. It's one person shouldn't have that much political power in the public good.
drjoshorbitalYeah.
drjoshorbitalWell, that's the thing. It's like I I don't even know what position he has, how many he has. If what I saw was everything in terms of what he voted, Brantley still has his coins, right? So if let's just say one day they just wanted to fucking just cash the fuck out, right? Because like right now they're easily sitting on it. Let's say they have 250,000 tokens each, or 200.
dcbk2laYeah, right.
dcbk2laOr they're captured a ton, but they literally made themselves millionaires overnight and then cashed out money. They did that. I saw them in the transactions.
drjoshorbitalYeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was gonna say.
dcbk2laHow do they get paid?
dcbk2laWe only had to sell a small portion of their their things to to bank out $1,000,000 and then straight to Coinbase out they they're they're.
drjoshorbitalWhoa.
dcbk2laJust got a distribution of the tokens and they could just sell the tokens. They got a huge debt, got 25% of the tokens, the Dow got 50% of the tokens. So the Dow just could do, they essentially got 75% because they can control the Dow.
drjoshorbitalWow.
dcbk2laAnd the users, everyone else who bought only got 25% and now that the people who is 1 wallet, you know 11 token share per wallet, not per names. Bot it's not.
drjoshorbitalYeah. But in all fairness though, Josh, you like, I didn't look at like the token model over the next like 3-4 years when it's gonna become fully diluted and all 100 million are gonna be out on the market, there's very little like there's going to be so many more. There's another 75 million left, you know what I'm saying?
dcbk2laNo.
dcbk2laIt's all going to the Dow or the contributors. Anyone, any people who got to yes.
drjoshorbitalIt is 100%.
drjoshorbitalWell, yeah. Well, no, it's not going to the down to the contributors, you know, you have to look at the chart, watch, I'll show you. Hold on, I was just reading this. The other I was reading two days ago, bro.
dcbk2laEveryone who got tokens who's a regular user already got their share they will not be getting anymore. All the other tokens that are invested right now and going to be dropped go to core contributors and the NS Dow.
drjoshorbitalCore contributors right the community.
dcbk2laNo developers.
drjoshorbitalWho's the core contributor? The devs. That's it.
dcbk2laThat the devs and the stewards and all those people, yes, they're inside team.
drjoshorbitalBut they're gonna have.
dcbk2laSo the inside team got 25%.
drjoshorbitalAlright, hold on. Yeah.
dcbk2laAnd everyone who they liked and then they put 50% into the Dow to do whatever they want with and they have 25% to the rest of the community. So essentially they've only given the community 25% of the and the the people who have the most tokens controlled.
drjoshorbitalThe tokens and the Dow, essentially.
drjoshorbitalAnd the people, the only people who bought in big are Coinbase, Rainbow Wallet, and a few of the other big names. Everyone else was just made rich and powerful just because of the drop. They constructed the drop to make put themselves in the position that they are in now. And Brantley, they didn't expect brand. They would have kicked Brantley out before the token drop. They don't want him to have a share. They don't want him to vote. They want him to abstain from one of the votes. And they could
drjoshorbitalCan't win, even though he, like literally Brantley, has like probably one 1% or more of the token. Like way more than that. I have to look, but it's like, insane.
drjoshorbitalDo you know where we can find who's got the break, who's got what of a breakdown?
dcbk2laYeah, there's there's charts and stuff I could try and look up the information and I know I'm speculating right now, but.
drjoshorbitalI've seen other token distribution models. I looked up token distribution distribution models for you know, for doing bolder dot Ethan doing all kinds of stuff and the core contributors will get like 20 or something percent usually, but it.
drjoshorbitalIt's made to make them powerful and rich. They dropped the token for governance, but they acted like they just gave the community ENS. No, that's not the way it happened. They gave themselves ENS and a paycheck and allowed a little bit of voting power to the users, but not in relationship to how much they spent, but to just if they.
drjoshorbitalYeah, I don't.
dcbk2laNot like the minimum they they gave them minimum out that they needed to in order to be.
drjoshorbitalUmm.
drjoshorbitalNot, you know, for everyone to be kind of happy because everyone got like a $10,000 paycheck or $5000 paycheck and they just shut up and sold their tokens. They don't care. But the people who want the tokens are lots of squatters were complaining and making noise and doing whatever. Lots and lots of people in the AirDrop. We're saying this is not fair because usually users are rewarded based on how much they contributed, not.
drjoshorbitalYeah.
drjoshorbitalYeah, that's every AirDrop, bro. Like you. It's like, how much money did you put into the system? How much money did you generate? Fees. This, that, like, there's a whole calculation. Not just kind of like, I mean, yeah, the egalitarian thing, it's all noble and shit, but come on, man.
dcbk2laOhh gosh.
dcbk2laAnd then I put my entire AirDrop back into NS minus 10K is like $40,000. And I didn't buy those. You know I bought I I bought it because I believed in the in the thing and I thought I could make some money. But it like a lot of these names I bought to use not to necessarily make money with but.
drjoshorbitalIt scares me that this is not like a.
drjoshorbitalYou spent 30K on domains.
dcbk2laYeah, bro.
drjoshorbitalWhat?
dcbk2laAbsolutely. I was buying them when they were like 2500 dollars, $500.00 each for the $5 names. I was paying that with the gas and everything.
drjoshorbitalAbsolutely.
drjoshorbitalJesus.
dcbk2laI I spent that fast, bro. It was like in a week.
drjoshorbitalDamn homie.
dcbk2laIs she crazy?
dcbk2laSo that's what I'm saying is like.
drjoshorbitalI should have somewhat of a say if I own all these domains and put money in the Treasury, but they're just treat me like I'm just any other person who.
drjoshorbitalYou know, it's asking, you know, I don't know.
drjoshorbitalI don't know. There's not. There's no clear answer. Yeah, there's no clear answer. What's up, boobs?
dcbk2laGM motherfucker.
drtitfuckWhat's up, motherfucker?
dcbk2laWhat up, man? No, long time no see. Where you been?
drjoshorbitalMaybe I've been gone.
drjoshorbitalHuh. I meant again.
drtitfuckHe said. Long time no see. Where you been?
dcbk2laAlthough yeah, I'm banned everywhere. Yeah, I cannot join.
drtitfuckThat's.
drtitfuckMy.
drjoshorbitalWhat? Even in the morning?
dcbk2laHmm.
dcbk2laAs the NS update so I I can join. Yeah, OK if it's giving me the opportunity, but man, all the other spaces I'm out.
drtitfuckHmm.
dcbk2laRight. I've been pulling the doctor boob on Twitter. I don't know if you. I know you've seen actually, yeah.
drjoshorbitalHmm.
dcbk2laYeah.
dcbk2laYeah, I'm online. Yeah. But man, at the end of the day, it's of course it's it's fucking myself. Yeah, but at the end of the day, we cannot discuss about onboarding and then scarfing at the same time. But man, it's not my community. It's not my world. So yeah, everything is fine. I'm preparing myself for working. I have 6:00 AM fifty, bro.
drtitfuckDamn.
dcbk2laWhat time is it now over there?
dcbk2laYeah, six AM 50.
drtitfuckAbout 6:50 AM nice you're addicted to Twitter spaces.
dcbk2laOhh yeah.
drtitfuckOhh yeah.
dcbk2laMan, I was closing a lot in my.
drtitfuckIn what?
dcbk2laSo yeah, I was investing a lot in all of this web, three culture, ENS stuff and so on. But yeah man, Joshi is here. Like one of the first guys too. And.
drtitfuckMinimum me. I was coming to us three times, to a point for where it was hard even.
drtitfuckMan, Gary Palmer Junior was really supporting blind. Not blindly, but 100% everything, yeah?
drtitfuckLike, you are the DAO, I am the DAO, blah blah blah. All of this like building a huge religion. Yeah, everyone is part of it.
drtitfuckHe's coming to the ground too well, so.
drtitfuckI don't know.
drtitfuckGary dot earth.
drjoshorbitalWell, I think he's coming to the ground. Listen, like, I like Gary. Gary's a good dude, but like, it's no fucking secret. Like, Gary just shows everything he fucking owns at every single opportunity gets. It's like the grown ass version of novax. Like, it's, you know, I'm saying like at a certain point it's like give me, give me, educate, educate me right before selling me on something. You know what I mean? Like, you know, like, come on bro. Like, we get it, dot earth and all this and all that.
dcbk2laWhat?
dcbk2laAs Gary dotter.
drjoshorbitalYou know, I don't know what the whatever he's talking about is you guys know I'm talking about. I mentioned that shit every morning, but I swear I tuned it out. Now I tuned it out because everything is a fucking shield between him and novax. I can't do it, bro.
dcbk2laIt drives me nuts.
dcbk2laIt's like.
dcbk2laYeah, honestly the whole it's, it's like I don't even like saying my name because it's like I say my name is in jokes and like when it's relevant I don't like you know ohh can you you know this is for like.
drjoshorbitalPedobear.
drtitfuckBro, it's fine to shield.
dcbk2laYeah, see, it sells itself.
drjoshorbitalStable coins.
drjoshorbitalYeah, exactly. It's fine. It's fine to shill like and be subtle about it, right? But like to go on and on and every fucking detail. It's like, OK, if people have questions, they'll ask.
dcbk2laPeople calling why?
dcbk2laThat's true.
dcbk2laFor stable coins had dude. If stable coins had an actual job, instead of showing, he'd be rich without, you know, because bro, he's been showing that shit for a year and it's just nonstop.
drjoshorbitalBro, this is what I was not getting yesterday with the stable coin stuff. Yeah.
drtitfuckCoin dot E is viable for five etherium, yeah.
drtitfuckReally.
dcbk2laHoly shit, bro that.
drjoshorbitalHmm.
dcbk2laThen yeah and then we are discussing here stable coins no it's 1,000,000 and loved and I was sitting at my laptop bro. So why is these motherfuckers are not buying for $6000 right now coin dot E bro. So man what?
drtitfuckTake a look at the floor from the three letters.
drtitfuckYeah.
dcbk2laWe are far away from, I don't know. And at the end of the day, we have three families. One family is a listener family, the second family is a speaking family, and then the third family is the sponsored family. Yeah, so.
drtitfuckUm, I.
dcbk2laLike you you know up to know if you're long enough here after 20 seconds ohh you're sponsored. Likes red girl yesterday like Ohh and later there's a space from domain plaque blah blah blah man. OK domain plug, he's doing something. He's doing nice stuff. He has a lot of money, blah blah blah. But why I should type this right now so much? This is only a better version blah blah blah yeah. So we all know who is sponsored and who is not. So yeah.
drtitfuckYeah, it's yeah. I don't even know what those sponsorship deals look like. You have any idea what they are like even close to it?
dcbk2laYou can see what they got paid.
drjoshorbitalYeah, giving money and taking out information on the platform they want like man ENS updates. Like 3 sponsorships right now. Yeah for joke I can ask him for the 4th, but.
drtitfuckWhat's well, how much of that would you say, Josh, you said you see?
dcbk2laHow much?
drtitfuck$10.
drtitfuckWell, yeah, if you look at domain plug, if you can see what they paid like Fred girl for, you know, however long, it's not much at all bro. Not much like a few 100 bucks, a few 100 bucks.
drjoshorbitalA few 100 bucks.
dcbk2laYeah.
drjoshorbitalWhat?
dcbk2laFor a director of marketing.
drjoshorbitalIn Lebanon.
dcbk2laYeah, but wait, wait, wait. A few 100 bucks are much, bro.
drtitfuckWell, maybe, but I'm just saying like.
drjoshorbitalIt doesn't matter. Get the fuck out of here. That's crazy.
dcbk2laI think they're just they're just getting influential people uh that have a lot of voice and they're giving them a little money to to put domain plug you know out and.
drjoshorbitalYeah, yeah.
dcbk2laMan, and what do you know what the biggest shit for me is? Only because she has tits. This is my problem. My main problem is I'm fighting. Wait wait. Give me the chance. I'm fight. Wait bro.
drtitfuckHey, no, no, no. See, listen to me. No, no, I'm not gonna give you the 30 seconds. Stop. Listen to me. Listen to me very closely, OK? Don't say that. You can't. Like, you can't say things like that. Ohh, they only.
dcbk2laWhy? I'm from Germany, bro. I'm not from America.
drtitfuckWhy bro?
drtitfuckI don't give a fuck. Boom. You can't. You cannot do that. You gotta have respect for my room because that's why people kick you out, bro. Like, you gotta like.
dcbk2laNo, wait, man.
drtitfuckBro, you can speak your mind in my spaces, you know that bro, but like just make a statement like that. Ohh because she has tits. Come on.
dcbk2laYeah, but this is a truth.
drtitfuckTell me why?
dcbk2laYeah man, she's not saying something important or something intelligent, so why the hell is she would be a man? Nobody would sponsor her for $1.00.
drtitfuckBecause they feel that she's good. It doesn't matter. Domain plug feels that she is a good fit. You know why? Maybe because she's an influencer. Maybe because people follow the shit post that she put up and it doesn't need to be just thought out. Well, intelligent thing. Maybe they feel that she touches the market that they want to get to. You have to respect that, Doc. Come on. You're not. You're not a.
dcbk2laI I'm respecting it, but I will stay at my statement, bro. It's.
drtitfuckYou can say you can stay in your statement.
dcbk2la100%.
dcbk2laDoctor boob. Yes, females have an edge for sure. If you look at any of these girls who are attractive, posting their picture, they get lots of thousands of likes, you know, but I I I believe that's a plus. You know, it's not necessarily, oh, you know, she is a female. She's putting herself out there with pictures of herself and, you know, she she could, you know, she's attractive. Maybe that is going to draw people and they pay for that. You know, people, you know, do that all the time. But.
drjoshorbitalYes, but not not even. Not even.
drjoshorbitalBro, people don't even see her. They hear her voice. What do you guys like boobs? Think about it.
dcbk2laBro.
drjoshorbitalYeah.
dcbk2laI agree.
dcbk2laPeople are more likely to be nicer to to women because all that's all I'm saying and I don't. I think she's qualified, I think she does a good job, she posts and whatnot. I think it's funny a lot of the time and I think she's very active, but.
drjoshorbitalYou know.
drjoshorbitalThere's nothing wrong, yeah, but I don't see anything wrong.
drjoshorbitalWhy has domain clocks a tattoo on a breast and not on your arm?
drtitfuckAlright, girl.
dcbk2laI don't have any breath now. I bro, I think that's. I think there's nothing wrong with any of that.
drjoshorbitalOhh.
dcbk2laBut but domain plug has a tattoo on a T from Vikes and dot E for $3000 and why he has not a tattoo for $100 on your arm?
drtitfuckYo, you know what the influx said they were gonna do? Like, I mean, I think this is gonna be dope shit, right? Because like, the problem that we have right now is getting our domain scene, right? Like, for those of us that want to, like, try and sell this shit and they need some sort of like, you know, Stoney came up with a great fucking idea. He said, why don't you come up with like for the different categories that you have people can sign up for the, like, you know, they have the Twitter bots
dcbk2laRegistrations you show like every 15 minutes, like the newest listings.
dcbk2laYou know what I mean?
dcbk2laYeah.
drjoshorbitalLike it automatically populates with the listings. That would be cool.
dcbk2laYou know, I think that would be dope. You'll be take note by the way because I think we can, if we do V Intel right, we might be able to pitch every one of these fucking ENS exchanges or auction sites, whatever they want to call themselves. My actually asked them about API access and they were like, we didn't even launch yet. And I'm like, that's all right when you do launch. I was like, we're gonna have a nice little sit down. So yeah.
dcbk2laAway API access for what?
drjoshorbitalFor their data.
dcbk2laV day oh wait, who's?
drjoshorbitalYeah.
drjoshorbitalOhh OK.
drjoshorbitalNo, no, not so. So you see my buddy down here, begrand, right? He's he's building us a behemoth of a fucking data. Fucking like. I mean a beautiful platform essentially to incorporate blockchain data. So he has, he runs all these different like algorithms. We reverse engineer all these other things to get real actionable insight right. Imagine what the fuck we can do with like the data that ENS vision has open C has, what domain plug is going to have. You know what I'm saying? Like we can come u
dcbk2laYeah, that sounds awesome.
drjoshorbitalSo much cool shit and not have to ultimately like you're just supercharging your business, you know what I'm saying?
dcbk2laWe can be an extension of that arm and it doesn't need to be a public key, but it could be something private, you know, like.
dcbk2laDepending on what kind of agreement we want to workout.
dcbk2laSo that's why I asked them today. But they're gonna have some cool features because you know what it is. They're not going to be using seaport. They're going to be using 0X. So you're not going to be subject to, well, not subject, but like, it's not going to operate just like open C yeah.
dcbk2laMan, this is a serious question right now because I have to ask myself.
drtitfuckIn the decentralized future we are building on, I have less rights and less freedom of speech than in my reality. Is this really the future we want to build on? Like only the situation, man, I can go to my city on a political party, on a speech. I can tell the same quote. Of course some people can get angry, but nobody is talking to me. Like, yeah, This is why you are this and this, bro. I have really to ask myself as a German.
drtitfuckNot doc.
dcbk2laIt's not that you can't say it. Listen. Listen to me.
dcbk2laThis web three Twitter is really better for me than my reality because really I have less laws, I have less rights, I have less freedom of speech, I'm much more under pressure than in my reality. So what we are building here, I don't know what's going on in America, but man, if I cannot say the last quote bro, this is this is for me as a German free brainer, really hard.
drtitfuckAt listen, I get what you're saying, but you have to understand something, Doc. There is no, nobody's limiting somebody else's speech, right? You have to look at the context under which, like you're in, you think you can go into anybody's room and just say anything you want, right? This isn't like you're not outside in the street. You're on Twitter. Everything is recorded here. You, I host the space. I'm responsible for this space. Something goes on in this space, they're going to be the first t
dcbk2laLike the way I the lens I look at everything through is #1. This is the furthest thing from a free speech open, public place. Yes, you can say what you want, but it also has to be within the confines of like is actually going to get me in trouble. Like if I like, imagine listening to a judge in a courtroom say.
dcbk2laPlease repeat that for the jury.
dcbk2laRight or will jury number will jury #6 please read that out loud and it's like and doctor tit fuck said she only has this because it doesn't matter. Like it. It's how things are perceived, right? You can't just be like these are my rights and that's it. It's how is it also received on the other end, right? Wrong or otherwise people can go start their own space. You want free speech? Go curse out everybody and anybody you want, right? But that has to be your space. You get me?
dcbk2laYeah, I got you.
drtitfuckThat means he's still mad, but it's alright. He'll go off.
dcbk2laNo, it's, it's man. I have 7:00 AM. I have to drive to work right now. Yeah, everything is fine.
drtitfuckOhh like go go go.
dcbk2laWell, come chill after work, dude.
drjoshorbitalWho are you kidding? Who's gonna call us from the car or some shit while he's smoking?
dcbk2laUm, was I gonna say.
dcbk2laWhat are we talking about before this?
dcbk2laI got.
dcbk2laCunt.
drjoshorbitalBecause you can't. Fucking something was in last night talking about like, you're the Aussies. Love that word, bro. It's like, Jesus, like fucking chill, bro.
dcbk2laYeah man, I think it's about time you're unemployed.
dcbk2laI got Nick to agree to come on to a Twitter space with me at the end of this month. So Nick not.
dcbk2laSo start getting your questions ready main.
dcbk2laUm, yeah.
dcbk2laThat's some big fucking props for you, bro, you know, just gotta say.
drjoshorbitalYou did something I could never do.
drjoshorbitalMy Mama didn't raise no quitter, baby.
dcbk2laNo. Yeah. And then yeah, post that up. Post it in the space, bro. Like, make that post now.
drjoshorbitalYeah, like if you could ask me like what would you be like like?
dcbk2laI should say Twitter space coming at the end of the month like Post Devcon or whatever.
dcbk2laWhat questions?
dcbk2laLike, yeah, what question? Yeah. OK. Yeah. And you guys can definitely retweet that.
dcbk2laWhy are speculators evil?
drjoshorbitalWhy did Josh is gonna write? Why don't you like me?
dcbk2laOhh, I know he doesn't like me because I'm trying to profit from domains where the doubt doesn't get the money.
drjoshorbitalFucking freeloader.
dcbk2laOhh, I'm worse than a freeloader, bro. I'm, I'm a.
drjoshorbitalNo, I I I I put everything into this, bro. I I would be much better off if I cashed out that 40K.
drjoshorbitalYeah.
dcbk2laI mean.
dcbk2laCan't remember where I sold my fucking.
dcbk2laI sold my tokens. I think I'd like 5060 tokens, something like that. I think I sold them at like 40 or 50 bucks. I was like, this is some shit, so I don't even know what NS was.
dcbk2laYeah, I sold at the top. It was like 75, then it dipped to 50. I'm like, I'm out and now it's like 15.
drjoshorbitalLooking good.
dcbk2laIt just is weird to me. They're not doing anything to raise the price or like not raise the price of the token, but bad you like imagine if you used the tokens to pay for the ENS names, you'd have to buy tokens and you have some leftover.
drjoshorbitalOhh that would be fucking that would be crazy.
dcbk2laThat would be.
dcbk2laYeah, and what if they charge the transaction fee on the? Well, they don't, but I wouldn't even have a problem if they had a 2% transaction fee on the tokens to buy the name. Well, not really, because already charging for the name, but.
drjoshorbitalWell, here's the thing.
dcbk2laYeah, they could. They could easily integrate the ENS token to have way more utility than limited governance and it would be worth more.
drjoshorbitalRight. But here's the thing that a lot of people don't understand and that I am very, very familiar with from the V world, is utility. Utility tokens are not even in the same conversation as governance token when it comes to the law. People want to avoid utility tokens like it's their, like it's the fucking plague because they could potentially be registered as securities. What are you using it for? And blah blah blah bro.
dcbk2laGovernance tokens is the easiest regulatory route and I can, I'm not gonna say definitely, but I'm pretty close to shore that like that played very, very heavily into the decision making process because utility tokens as much as they seem like really cool and what you're able to do with them, they bring a whole host of issues.
dcbk2laYeah, it's funny because I when I'm in decentralized world, I almost like think, man, we're free. I I don't wanna think.
drjoshorbitalAbout the regulations and whatnot of the real world. And if you keep anonymous you can kind of be safe, but.
drjoshorbitalYeah, I I just hate the way the government structured and the, the, the red tape they put in front of you and to any normal investor.
drjoshorbitalWhere I don't even like I completely reject almost everything because I see how how you know I was in the stock market for a little bit to playing with options and stuff they have like day trade limits and all this kind of crazy rules that only are in put in place to restrict the the you know consumer investor you know like the small investor.
drjoshorbitalYes, Mr boob.
drjoshorbitalDoctor Boo.
drjoshorbitalI'm a doctor. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
drtitfuckYo.
dcbk2laTo the yellow card, no. Apologize here for the last joke for my I have to get it.
drtitfuckI don't need these, stupid.
dcbk2laYou're forgiven, you cunt.
drjoshorbitalEverything. Thank you so much, God.
drtitfuckScares me. What scares me a little bit is why.
drtitfuckWhy ENS vision? Why domain suck is we are too early. Yeah, and we are expecting we are so far gone. Why? Why they have to?
drtitfuckWhat do you mean?
dcbk2laBecause first is first if they're first.
drjoshorbitalTo marketing in this way, yeah, it's, it's, I don't get it. I would never get yeah.
drtitfuckOhh just saying if they're bro, whoever builds it first is going to be way ahead of everyone else behind. So even if they don't have anything to show if even if they just say this stuff like domain plug isn't beta it. Lots of things aren't necessarily working correctly but they're like the most hyped they're they're almost as high as vision in a way as far as like who how many people know about them.
drjoshorbitalSo if you get in a position, however, to be popular, that's going to make you successful even if you're not the perfect, you know, even if the open sea is not the best marketplace, but they're #1 because they were first.
drjoshorbitalSo I think a lot of people.
drjoshorbitalThis is correct. OK, I got you.
drtitfuckBut, but the main plug has something new, some categories nobody else have, blah blah blah. And even at ENS we have a lot of passionated positive freaks. Yeah, so.
drtitfuckI don't get it.
drtitfuckNo.
drjoshorbitalOhh man.
drjoshorbitalDomain plug is gonna have doc. Domain plug is gonna have dot sole dot Tez dot fucking everything. That's why there's domain plug. Yeah, somebody asked that question today.
dcbk2laIt makes sense if they want to make money.
drjoshorbitalYeah, yeah, yeah.
drjoshorbitalOf course it is. We think like, and they should be entitled to do that. Like, what's the problem?
dcbk2laRight.
dcbk2laIt just muddies the water. It dilutes.
drjoshorbitalDNS in a way, but they could do what they want, you know.
drjoshorbitalWhy does it allude in this?
dcbk2laI mean, if people are, well, those other names. I mean, yeah, if you're just thinking about it as a person, this is worth money. I can sell it and take the registration fee. Yeah, that's fine. But there's really no problem. I just don't. I don't. Those things don't appeal to me because ETH does everything those names do, and they're not even, you know, etho's #2.
drjoshorbitalYeah. But that's being, that's maxi talk, right, like we are not the maxi, yeah.
dcbk2laI guess so.
drjoshorbitalExactly.
dcbk2laNow you got me there, bro.
drjoshorbitalHmm.
dcbk2laOh my God.
dcbk2laHonestly.
drjoshorbitalI just believed so much the US would be way more popular by now.
drjoshorbitalLike they they don't do any marketing, but imagine they like.
drjoshorbitalI don't know. I feel like they should do some kind of marketing. And I also feel like ENS should have its own official marketplace. But since they don't want to reward squatters, that will never happen.
drjoshorbitalBut then real marketing and not giving any nonsense holders some money to to say yes, there's a space later this is, this is a money wasting, yeah.
drtitfuckWell, that it.
drjoshorbitalWhat kind of marketing?
dcbk2laHuge stuff like.
drtitfuckJust like, hey, you know a billboard, bro.
drjoshorbitalWhat?
dcbk2laWhy they are not marketing out their kobuta meeting right now. Why is Gary Palmer junior the only guy who's tweeting about this? Why is there not a professional marketing guy who's presenting photos? Summarized tweets applaud A blog, bro. This is marketing. This is real business, not this shit we are doing here. Yeah.
drtitfuckI don't think they need marketing. I think they need like internal resources to be able to disseminate just basic information down to the community. And the community can be your marketing arm. If you don't want to spend marketing dollars because a billboard, I wouldn't want money from the Dow being spent on a billboard for what people are going to look back. What the fuck is that?
dcbk2laI would market. I would marketing my ass off if I would marketing my ass off for a fair situation. But if I know that girls like that girl are getting few 100 bucks domain plug and market on on its own, yeah he can put a $1,000,000 in these people. But I would never marketing then again because then I know this is not the decentralized stuff I was dreaming of. Like everyone is on the same stage.
drtitfuckNow he can marketing with his paid marketing shit. This is a problem.
drtitfuckWhat do you think is decentralized?
dcbk2laCan I ask you that though?
dcbk2laDecentralized. Yeah, a few stages and it's a little bit hard with my non-native language. But at first decentralized is that there's not one organization who has the control and this is for me very important, even in Germany, one of the most corrupt countries in the whole world.
drtitfuckHmm.
dcbk2laThis is the first step and then second. Decentralized would mean for me a little bit if I'm closing my eyes.
drtitfuckEvery human being on this world has next to the same chance. I know it's not possible, but this is my dream. Like the beginning. The newborn people have everyone next to the same possibilities in life. Yeah, this would be for me fully decentralized. It doesn't matter if you grow up in Africa or Asia or America. Yeah. So because we are decentralized, you have the same possibilities like me. You have the same entrance.
drtitfuckThe tickets for YouTube and all of this, yeah.
drtitfuckAnd so.
drtitfuckUh-huh. And ENS world, what do you think is decentralized? Do you think that like NS vision should be decentralized because it's not open? See isn't domain plug isn't going to be? What do you think should be decentralized?
dcbk2laAt this at this moment? Um.
drtitfuckYeah. This is then it's getting philosophically. Yeah, I know.
drtitfuckThere cannot be a 100% decentralized world because at some point like let's say ENS dot visional openc, their centralized organization. But it's not that super hard to create the ENS Dow a little bit more decentralized than now. So I feel only with ENS like with Germany and this is a shitty in my brain.
drtitfuckIt's.
drtitfuckYeah. I mean the yeah.
dcbk2laOnly a small people have the control garage man. I I will never forget these words Gary or some other was asked before months ago who is the DAO and I am part of the Dow and these guys were saying everyone is the Dallas, this is the decentralized stuff, blah blah blah man. I own a lot of ENS coins. I own, I own a lot of domains. I I'm so far away from the dao like from being a billionaire. Yeah.
drtitfuckVery far away.
drtitfuckYou're a very special case.
dcbk2laYeah, sorry.
drtitfuckYou're a very unique case.
dcbk2laYeah.
dcbk2laUh, huh.
dcbk2laBut this is only cause, man. Yesterday there was the first German guy and I was recognizing his accent. Yeah, to be honest, you only, you only met 2 less European and even German people. This is the truth, bro. It's not I I get you, I'm a cultural shock. I'm a cultural shock for some Germans too. But man, we are not decentralized here. We are 80% Americans, 15%, Aussies 4%.
drtitfuckSome Chinese and then 1% are some African and European, yeah, so.
drtitfuckWe are so far away from a mixed up culture here. Yeah, I know.
drtitfuckSo this is where I think maybe my opinion is is is the contrarian one. But I I so disagree with that thinking because I'm meaning I don't disagree with the way like the I don't disagree with like what you mean by it, right? Like equality and everything else. I'm all for it. But.
dcbk2laTiming is everything. If I had to sit there before I launched the business and thought to myself, I need to make sure this guy's perfect for the job, but I need to make sure that I have a 5% diversity higher right when we start. We'll never get fucking started.
dcbk2laAnd I think people lose sight of that, that like there's time and place in my opinion, for everything but that that can come, let it just be established. But for the Dow, maybe they've had how long, but I feel like they're pretty diverse. When I was sending those meetings, dude. Yeah, you had.
dcbk2laUh, an Aussie?
dcbk2laAn Englishman. A guy from South America. A Spaniard. An American. A black American.
dcbk2laA white American like, Christian like or Irish. There was a good mix boob when I was in there.
dcbk2laYou have to go to those meetings.
dcbk2laYeah, but this is not this is, this is like a political party. Yeah, this is not my future in my brain. This is like a normal German political party.
drtitfuckSo.
dcbk2laHow should we structure? How should it be structured you think?
dcbk2laEveryone, let's make a rule like you own 100 ENS domains, not only five. You have to be a part of the dial and you have to have a vote. full stop.
drtitfuckOK, So what?
dcbk2laFor me it should be more votable.
drtitfuckBut that could be gained so easily. If I'm a whale, I just go out and I bulk register fucking 500,000 fucking names. I spend all the money to be able to do it. You know what I mean? Like, what's the difference?
dcbk2laYes, only one vote like me.
drtitfuckYeah.
drtitfuckOh, you're saying doesn't matter how many domains you own, it's only one vote?
dcbk2laOnly one minimum amount of domain that yeah, not everyone can vote.
drtitfuckYou know.
dcbk2laYeah, but but then it doesn't matter. Everyone has one vote.
drtitfuckYou know, it's interesting that you say that actually, because Josh, isn't that what they were going for? Like on the token drop you said, why didn't they do it on the voting?
dcbk2laSay one more time. Sorry, I was. I was in a.
drjoshorbitalYeah.
drjoshorbitalYou said they went for like this, like egalitarian, like ohh, whether you had one domain, you had whatever. Like you're gonna get like the same token allocation. But it's like it's interesting that they did that with the token allocation but not with the voting.
dcbk2laWhat do you mean what? How do they not do what the voting?
drjoshorbitalLike one, like one domain is like one vote. No matter how like if you have 50 domains, it's still one vote.
dcbk2laBecause they wanna stop. They want people to buy one name and stop.
drjoshorbitalAnd 50 domain.
drtitfuckWell, no. What I'm saying is it's interesting that what? Yeah, exactly like. What I'm saying is, is that like.
dcbk2laBooby saying that we should have an equal voice no matter how many domains that you have, right? It's like, it's like put the token aside for a second if you have 100 don't like, well Doc and then maybe they could just get more wallets. Like I feel like everything could be fucking games.
dcbk2laI don't know. I don't know what the solution is.
dcbk2laAnd.
drjoshorbitalYeah, then we need someone talking.
drtitfuckThe only fair way to do it is by domain names, because then it can't be game.
drjoshorbitalYeah, Ken, if I'm a whale with money, that's it. Same way with the token.
dcbk2laRight. So same thing with the token.
dcbk2laSo same thing with the token.
dcbk2laThat's that's the world. I mean you should have if you're invested in that much you should have more of a well. Not the same with the token because they they yes they that's the worst of it all is you can buy your vote but you weren't distributed a fair vote based on your investment.
drjoshorbitalThe first.
drjoshorbitalAlright, So what should the you're saying the fair distribution be because at the end of the day it's a free market like right?
dcbk2laPer domain.
drjoshorbitalYou're saying.
dcbk2laOne token per domain or something as simple as that, you know.
drjoshorbitalYeah, that's crazy though, bro. That's a lot. Yeah, they would never get off the ground.
dcbk2laIt's not because we didn't even know there was gonna be an AirDrop, bro. We bought these domains because we believed in it, right?
drjoshorbitalI mean, I bought a bike. Pure dumb fucking look.
dcbk2laYeah.
dcbk2laCool.
dcbk2laYeah, but the people who who would have benefited from the AirDrop didn't do it with the prior knowledge of there being an AirDrop.
drjoshorbitalGotcha.
dcbk2laCombs.
dcbk2laWhen I get yoga.
drtitfuckLike at yoga Ohh yugas a joke?
dcbk2laThat, it was only a surprise was the air drop of of token.
drtitfuckYeah, I know.
dcbk2laAnd hopefully you guys not a joke, bro. Then I'm killed.
drtitfuckHow many more days do you have?
dcbk2laAnd zero.
drtitfuckUmm.
dcbk2laBro, look at my tweet.
drjoshorbitalI'm Kim.
drtitfuckLook at the tweet I just posted. Someone is agreeing with me saying this dude the the developer is a dummy, so it's not just me who thinks they're out of line.
drjoshorbitalYeah, this was me. This doesn't matter, bro.
drtitfuckBro, you literally have ENS cunt dot ETH on your thing bro.
dcbk2laOhh you you're Amar dot E.
drjoshorbitalShashi, you have ENS come to dot E as one of the fucking things on your home page.
dcbk2laI know. I'm gonna buy it. You better not. You better not buy it.
drjoshorbitalOhh you don't have it yet. Ohh give me that.
dcbk2laNo, I just did it as a joke, bro.
drjoshorbitalYeah, he wanna be a shitpost. Uh. And then he gets his phone.
drtitfuckGive me that.
dcbk2laWhat's up, doc?
dcbk2laTrying to get Josh is trying to get a sponsorship, yeah.
drtitfuckWell, how this is you Amar dot E doctor boob.
drjoshorbitalNo, no. But now we can sponsor ourselves like ENS can, sponsored by Doctor Titzer.
drtitfuckSomebody owns it.
dcbk2laAnd then after.
drtitfuckI'll give you a sub I know someone owns, I bet anything. Did they just buy it now?
drjoshorbitalNo, on the 29th of September they bought it.
dcbk2laOhh my why why would anyone want that? What the fuck dude?
drjoshorbitalAnd as content.
dcbk2laFor real.
drjoshorbitalWell, maybe they got some other good ones, I swear to God, bro.
dcbk2laIs the plural taken? Oh my God.
drjoshorbitalIn his cunts.
dcbk2laOh, good question.
dcbk2laFunny.
dcbk2laRight.
drjoshorbitalHold on. Let's see. ENF.
dcbk2laThen we can make subdomains.
drjoshorbitalOhh yeah that's consens available. Let's get it.
dcbk2laYou should scoop it and just sell sub domains. I'll buy one.
drjoshorbitalLet's go.
dcbk2laUmm.
dcbk2laI seriously will buy one for the 5 bucks.
drjoshorbitalMy question for you Josh, because you are a longer involved than than me and the NS rapper, the sub domain rapper.
drtitfuckIs it because they was not working in the last years where no hype war here and now they started the work called the hype was coming? Or why is it so complicated to push this stuff out?
drtitfuckThe dude was saying ohh it took two years because yeah, I understand. It took years because they had to build it and whatnot. That's not the problem. It's like when we ask, hey, when is it being dropped? Ohh, very soon.
drjoshorbitalTrademark.
drjoshorbitalHmm.
dcbk2laSo.
drjoshorbitalI want clarification on when things are going to happen and what's gonna happen. And if the Dow has a vote, that's it.
drjoshorbitalAlright.
dcbk2laAnd they don't. They have in. They know all that information and they're like, well, go go look through all my posts and see. Go look on the, go look on the code to determine what we're doing. You know, we don't have time to interact with the community.
drjoshorbitalI mean.
dcbk2laI mean, I mean, I mean, you know.
dcbk2laOh, wait.
dcbk2laI mean, am I wrong?
drjoshorbitalNo, you're not wrong. You're definitely not wrong. Um, I just wanna be able.
dcbk2laAm I out of place? How do I? How do I be more?
drjoshorbitalNo, no, I don't think you came. I don't think you came out of pocket. I just think also like what you said at the end, like, is the guy wrong for saying what he said? Like maybe. But like it's like he doesn't need to go look. Like, you're just like, oh, because they this. And he's like, oh, because it was antagonistic and inflammatory and blah blah blah. And it's just like, you can't make a statement, you have to keep asking questions. But if your questions don't get answered, what the fuck you
dcbk2laYou gotta stir the shit, dude. The only reason they're answering is because I'm. I'm stirring shit up. They like, he literally replied. Nick replied to a retweet that I made at his post, but he wouldn't answer any other questions besides that. So you got, you got, you know, you got to throw some shit if you want some results sometimes, and I'm not even being insulting like, but if a regular user is out of control and insulting, whatever, that's the user. That's not the NS team. The NS team comba
drjoshorbitalDude and stop him from interacting with the community because it's literally making the NS community look bad. Even though he means well and I don't care if he hates me, he shouldn't be calling anyone a cunt because it makes the Ms bad look bad.
drjoshorbitalTrue, true, true.
dcbk2laI'm with you on that, my brother.
dcbk2laAlright.
dcbk2laSecond here.
dcbk2laI mean, they literally kicked Brantley out because of his religious views. If those were too much and I understand they're, I don't agree with them and I think it's, you know, wrong what he was saying, but.
drjoshorbitalHe didn't step the line to calling people names and insults. That's another.
drjoshorbitalLine further than what he did and Nick basically made the decision to boot him.
drjoshorbitalThey.
drjoshorbitalDoes that come out of that come to a vote? Like how did that fucking work?
dcbk2laIt did come to a vote and they did it well. No, they fired him from TL or TL, TL names or whatever. And then when they went to vote to kick him out out of the Dow, they couldn't vote it because he had too many tokens and too many people supported him.
drjoshorbitalHmm, that's funny.
dcbk2laSo yeah, they couldn't take his power in away, but they did remove him from the team.
drjoshorbitalHmm.
dcbk2laOhh man.
drtitfuckSo a double there's no doubt votes for removal of team members. They can just do that whatever they want.
drjoshorbitalWhich begs the question, you piss off, Nick. Are you gonna get kicked out?
drjoshorbitalYou don't have you. You don't align with his views. Brantley didn't necessarily do anything wrong. He should have just shut his mouth and not been a public, you know, talking public about it. But the fact that he doubled down on that, yeah, he should be fired for that.
drjoshorbitalI mean.
dcbk2laThe same reason why.
drjoshorbitalBad this time.
drtitfuckGood.
drjoshorbitalThis sounds like German political drama in English.
drtitfuckWell.
drjoshorbitalHmm. You know anything you got?
dcbk2laExactly.
dcbk2laThe company has to have a a neutral stance. It can't have views like yeah, it can't and then.
drjoshorbitalAt a certain point you have to like, you have to cut out like, it's like you can't have negative fucking PR all the fucking time, you know what I mean? Like, and that's something that will follow you around forever. And it's nothing against rent. Like, you're right to listen. That's a touchy subject, honestly. That's literally like, it's such a are you kidding? It's like, that's crazy. Like, I wouldn't want to go near that fucking and like at all, you know what I'm saying? But I don't know.
dcbk2laMeta.
dcbk2laYeah.
dcbk2laYep.
dcbk2laYep.
dcbk2laIt has nothing to do with ENS and he doesn't understand, you know, Brantley doesn't can't separate his personal life from his professional life and that was the problem and that was a legitimate reason to remove him, Nick and this other guy.
drjoshorbitalAlso, can't separate business with personal issues. There is no. They're under no circumstances should there ever be any aggression or main calling towards any member. Even if they're being aggressive, they should handle it in a, in a, in a neutral D escalating manner. And I'm not even escalating. I'm literally asking questions and and.
drjoshorbitalThis is disgusting. Yeah, just yeah. I mean, this is literally appalling. I'm not even like, I can't believe, like a cunt.
cryptoeyeslifeBro.
cryptoeyeslifeI can't. Come on, Bubba.
cryptoeyeslifeNo.
cryptoeyeslifeYeah, man.
dcbk2laPro.
cryptoeyeslifeAnd this is.
cryptoeyeslifeAnd then Nick likes it. Like he supports me getting attacked because he doesn't like me. That's a slippery slope.
drjoshorbitalI'm super unbiased, right? Like, I I do not hold a single one, OK? Like, I am literally on the like I'm centered as you could possibly get, right?
cryptoeyeslifeBut I've been super. Look, you'll see me hopping all the time. Like I'm super interested in the concept and I'm not. I was bullish on it. But like bad PR, bro, it's a big, big no no for me, man.
cryptoeyeslifeYeah, you don't matter. What's up?
dcbk2laOh yeah, hey, I just.
888meta8Yeah. The way I look at it is like these guys, essentially a public servant, you know, like they work for us, right? We essentially pay their pay their wage. Yeah.
888meta8Nah. No, we don't. No.
dcbk2laYou know, well, you know what I mean, like if they're, if they're representing us, they're on this. Like they've been voted in if he's out.
888meta8They're not representing us though, bro. That's the thing. They're not.
dcbk2laOhh, he's at true names, isn't he this guy?
888meta8Hmm.
888meta8Hmm.
888meta8Yeah.
888meta8So that's the thing. This is where like the the the the murkiness comes into play. It's like they're not public servants, pro like they weren't elected officials, right? Like, that's not how this is working. And I think everybody is of the of the mindset that like, oh, all doubts are created equal and it's just not the case or they're set up the same way. It's just not the case. Like you can set up a now however the fuck you want, you know what I'm saying? But I mean, you should, you should get
dcbk2laThat's, that's. I don't think that's right.
dcbk2laNot it.
888meta8I do.
drjoshorbitalWell, it's like, I'm not going to say yeah like you know, I mean it's blasphemy mean, but like in terms of like.
888meta8Yeah, I don't know. So and this is his role as a developer relations. Yeah, at like estimate it's like TNL.
888meta8Hmm.
888meta8He he's literally like one of the founders of these, of this protocol. Like he he built this shit. He's like a Steve Jobs. And it's like, look at it. Like, I look at Steve Jobs and Wozniak and fucking Apple, they were building something. That's what these two were doing. Like you can't. If I was them, I would have been like like I don't know what the fuck you guys think you're doing, but like, I didn't sell you shares in my company. I gave you shares in my I gave you tokens, right? Like it's lik
dcbk2laHmm.
888meta8The Devil's advocate for hot 2nd. But like, I feel like we always have this. Like, like you owe us because without us like you wouldn't have shit. And it's like, yeah, I guess, but like I don't owe you anything. I feel the need. I supplied the need to the market and the market said OK cool, we actually want this, we need this. We think this is great. And they proved it out. So it's like they didn't need any specific person. And I feel like it's almost like, why are we so entitled?
dcbk2laFor the answers, Josh, I'm with you on that. Go ahead, doc.
dcbk2laNot a big deal.
dcbk2laYes. Sorry for jumping in the Q888 because I'm close at my company. Um, let me summarize. And I feel really sorry for this, man. I will respect your rules because you're a human who is standing at my side. So really sorry for this role. Forgive me, please. Josh he man, I'm. I'm sure I'm not often shouting out, but Joshy, of course, we was discussing sometimes very hot, like in the microwave. Yeah, but man, you are one of the authentic guys who are weak.
drtitfuckTesting who are asking? Who are looking behind the scenes? Who are coming? It doesn't matter for you, you are a free human, bro. You. It doesn't matter for you if it's a recorded space, non recorded space. It's in your brain. And cause of this man you are. Don't get me fought some kind of a brother from another mother man. I'm really the same. And so thank you so much only for this. Like being an authentic human and 888 man of course.
drtitfuckIt's my wonderful dream too.
drtitfuckThat they have or that they work for us?
drtitfuckAnd maybe This is why I'm getting sometimes a little bit angrier because it's a fully opposite, like maybe NFL was saying we are the workers for them. And to be honest, of course the ENS AirDrop coin AirDrop was a gift. At the end of the day we was or I'm, I was not AirDrop, but the people were so controlled about this protocol.
drtitfuckThey knew that maximum 5% of these coins will get pushed out. Yeah, so it was only a new.
drtitfuckFresh oil in in a huge pump and cause of this we were seeing such a huge amount of registration. Yeah. So at the end of the day it's a cocktail of everything. But man, yeah, we are standing here and we don't give up hopefully.
drtitfuckAnd thank you for holding the space again, man. Annabelle, you're connecting again. We have only the update. So we have the Maxi show and then of course, the Shark Tank shows was coming out of the ground right now. And then we have you, bro, who are maybe the community domain flag. Yeah.
drtitfuckPete.
drtitfuckWe'll see. I just want, like, what you gotta get, like, information, man. Like, I get it. Like I love Shark Tank. I love those fucking dudes. I love like like I like Kev the morning show. But like, we don't need, we don't need anymore theater. We need real info. Like, I want to make fucking money, man. You know I'm saying like, I ain't trying to fuck in. I'm good like.
dcbk2laThat part. That part.
cryptoeyeslifeYou know this guy like I'm. I'm not trying to like I'm good, I'm good on the laughs.
dcbk2laBro, you're not, you're not. It's a little risky. I'm just saying it's not the play right now.
cryptoeyeslifeSo it's good because the reason why I actually like I launched this one was I want to hear from everybody, but I actually got the guy Nick Daddy, to agree to a what's it called at the end of the month? A Twitter space with me, pretty much improvement. I like like he has no idea who I am, not like I'm going to fuck around or anything because like, I'm not gonna like I'm going to be dead ass serious and we're going to get to some fucking. We're gonna have some good questions and get some good answ
dcbk2laEverybody's not gonna come out of pocket in this space.
dcbk2laOhh.
dcbk2laI registered this guys 5K floor, 50K floor, 100K floor, 200K floor. You think somebody would buy that? I don't know why. I feel like in the moment I was like.
dcbk2laI don't know why did I buy this.
dcbk2laYeah.
dcbk2laIf you sell, sell them as a bundle, you know what I mean? And put some up, yeah.
888meta8There's definitely some worth doing that if you don't overprice it. And you you know.
888meta8You do. You generally just want to sell it and try to squat like man it just makes sense. If you it's like I'm gonna huge benefits and bundling up like you know names and same.
888meta8Yeah.
dcbk2laGenre, yeah.
888meta8You guys have digits, but you still register in digits. I'm still registering digits like a motherfucker.
dcbk2laI gave up.
drjoshorbitalFor real.
dcbk2laAnd.
dcbk2laI have under score 4 or 4K or I'm sorry 10K club.
drjoshorbitalI'm not, no.
dcbk2laYeah.
dcbk2laBut.
dcbk2laAnd you know, like I said, the US vision is pushing leading negative that none of that's gonna be normalized. Don't buy negative stuff. It's not gonna be normalized or be. I'm not telling you, I'm just telling generally everyone. Like I'm literally facts. If you want to normalization, it's under score and then any of the money symbols.
drjoshorbitalThat's crazy. Like that's like that. They just get. That's what's crazy to me, because just the so effect of normalizing the under score is you hitting the reset button. And to me that seems like a cash grab in and of itself. It's like put an under score before everything, every other word. Now you can literally go down the whole list you just did.
dcbk2laAnd then profit again just with something from an under score.
dcbk2laCome on, bro.
dcbk2laFor the debt, the devs themselves are are registering those names, I mean.
drjoshorbitalOhh, you think I didn't see the guy that released the thing? I'm like, hey, here's an easy way to find all the emojis.
dcbk2laAre you Siri?
cryptoeyeslifeLinks to the links to the sheet and there's literally 3 left.
dcbk2laNo way, bro. Are you serious?
cryptoeyeslifeI swear to fucking God, bro.
dcbk2laLike how many like.
cryptoeyeslifeGod.
cryptoeyeslifeWait, wait, no. Here's here's the best part. He submitted it to the Dow, saying that this is going to be a public good and asked for money.
dcbk2laOhh bro, please don't tell me that.
cryptoeyeslifeYo, she was mad funny. I was like, he's not fucking. I gotta give it to him, but like, I'm balls of steel, a little boy.
dcbk2laDid.
cryptoeyeslifeYeah.
888meta8That's crazy. That is crazy.
dcbk2laGo ahead, bro.
cryptoeyeslifeHow many subdomains have you made yourself ever?
888meta8Me.
dcbk2laYeah.
888meta8Not many. I'd maybe have like 1520. I can't do shit with them.
dcbk2laWell, yeah, I mean.
dcbk2laNo.
dcbk2laWell, not yet. But but what's going to happen when? No listen, when this name rapper comes out and you don't reckon there's going to be a gas wall? Like as soon as it drops?
888meta8Nah.
dcbk2laNo. So you don't reckon it's gonna be twice as expensive to set up sub domains and give them up.
888meta8I mean it's.
dcbk2laLike you could go and set up like a 999 club event NFL champ right now and it would cost you just just a bit of gas, yeah?
888meta8Yeah.
dcbk2laYou, you're done. And then you could fucking sit on it and go well, you know, give them up or whatever you wanna do.
888meta8Yeah.
dcbk2laBut like.
888meta8Then I just think there's gonna be a huge castle in the next, like as soon as it drops, everyone's gonna be one of the burn. Like, you know, burn those permissions and.
888meta8Umm.
dcbk2laCreate Subs.
888meta8So yeah.
888meta8You know what I really do want? I want fucking.
dcbk2laUmm.
dcbk2laI want I need Stony in here. I want Stony subdomains those roses.
dcbk2laThat I want.
dcbk2laWell, this is it, man. This is it. This is what we're talking about as well, not just what we've got and how we're going to sell it like.
888meta8Alright, let's go.
dcbk2laWe all know each other well enough to say hey man, can I have a sub domain of your? If it's something that you know is worth a bit or or some of the digits, I don't know.
888meta8Yeah, look I fucking.
dcbk2laThere's a word that you like, man. It could be like nuts.
888meta8Yeah.
888meta8Yeah, I'd pay Stony mad money for some of those fucking roads like subdomains, bro. Like some of the common. Like just like female names. I would fucking I I'd buy the top 50 or 100, whatever you want. I give 1000 bucks for those, no problem.
dcbk2laWait, what? What for? From what stone?
drjoshorbitalThe roses one.
888meta8That would be that much.
cryptoeyeslifeSo he he registered. We're in a space one day, bro. The kids had genius. We were in a space one day and he literally went out. We talking about like flowers. He went out and he registered 12 rows emojis dot E.
dcbk2laAnd even if it's just something that you send to your fucking girlfriend on whatever, like you tell me that's not amongst the nerd community, let's just say.
dcbk2laThat shit plays, bro, and it plays heavy.
dcbk2laLike you sell a sub domain or you rent it for the day. Forget sell it, you rent that shit for the day.
dcbk2laValentine's Day in February, bro. You gotta be gearing up right now for that shit.
dcbk2laAnd probably.
cryptoeyeslifeNope.
dcbk2laYeah.
dcbk2laBrother Girl has to be an ENS person to get that I would say. But I'll tell you what, I sold a domain for 2 girls 1 Cup Daddy sub domain already.
drjoshorbitalWhat?
dcbk2laThis is the way.
cryptoeyeslifeBro.
cryptoeyeslifeOh my God.
dcbk2laI don't know how, but someone wanted one. Bro, 20 bucks I got.
drjoshorbitalI'm proud of you, bro.
cryptoeyeslifeYeah, seriously.
dcbk2laThey came to me. I literally made a joke post who need Subs for 2 girls, 1 cup and like me, me and one dude pay me.
drjoshorbitalWhat do you mean a sub? What do you mean a sub?
dcbk2laA sub I sold a sub domain for 2 girls 1 cup I own 2 girls, 1 cup Daddy.
drjoshorbitalAnd what was the sub domain?
dcbk2laYou can. You can't sell it officially, but you can send you the money after. Yeah, like you can just transfer it.
888meta8Well he sent me the money and I sent him set him up a sub domain so it points to his wallet.
drjoshorbitalYeah, see.
888meta8Yeah.
drjoshorbitalSo let me ask you this question right, because I was looking at the SF dot tool site. Dude, this shit has is so baller, this rapper. Everything on there is insane. I'm going to try and wrap some of my shit with this thing, but like what? The question I want to know is like why am I waiting for the NS rapper?
dcbk2laSo.
drjoshorbitalYeah.
dcbk2laThe collection that was created with the official official ENS wrapper goes on open. See, everyone's going to be looking at that stuff. The unofficial rapper by ESF tools in the collection is not seen by many people. You know, it's not. Once the officials of things come out, everyone's going to use it. Nobody uses ESF, so there's no eyes on it. So you have to do all the marketing and selling on your own. Even you know people aren't going to understand what that is once people understand all of t
drjoshorbitalBecause they dropped the wrap around the official EMS.
drjoshorbitalThings go parabolic.
drjoshorbitalYeah, but you want to know my what I'm what I'm identifying as an issue?
dcbk2laLike we don't have a marketing arm for people. Like our voices aren't heard, meaning not our voices amongst hey look by myself it's we don't have the tools to do it cause all these marketplaces to boost credit are focused on.
dcbk2laWhat new categories you want? Do this and we're thinking ohh yeah this is cool.
dcbk2laArt.
drjoshorbitalBut what good is it when there's 3,000,000 fucking domain names and there's like, how do we individually stand out? Because if somebody's going to one of these marketplaces, they have to know what they're looking for. Nobody's going to go through 400,000 fucking categories.
dcbk2laTo give you an example, my last name is Mcmenamin. If I do John dot Mcmenamin dot E, I'm not John, but there is a John Mcmenamin dot E if it exists in open sea and someone types Mcmenamin dot E and they see John McMillan, John dot Mcmenamin dot ETH is available for $10. They will buy that without any advertising.
drjoshorbitalI yeah, I agree. But they have to know about it first. I think what we're talking about is this time frame is like for that to happen like for John dot Mcmenamin to come, like I think people are in for like a week, we need to wake up call like we think we're going to start selling domain names.
dcbk2laI think when once you search for this the base name, that name will also come up in open sea.
drjoshorbitalDoes it?
dcbk2laThe sub don't. I mean, why wouldn't it work that way? It works like that, you know?
drjoshorbitalThey don't.
drjoshorbitalYeah, but I I still don't know how many people actually want their first and last name for their wallet name at all on in web three, you know what I mean?
888meta8Hmm.
888meta8Well, probably not a big thing, but we're a big use cases is to create a club. I'm creating can a club, I'm going to have memberships based on sub domains, not necessarily a photo or anything. So in order to become a member you just buy a sub domain of canoe club. Once people buy all those Subs at Cana club they're not really interested in, they might even sell some to sell as the membership. But the whole the whole thing of it is you have to generate your own.
drjoshorbitalReason for people who want to buy a sub off you. Someone might wanna sub just for vanity reasons, but if you have a utility and it's it's part of something where they actually benefit from, they're going to buy a sub like they buy an NFT.
drjoshorbitalAnd you almost have your own name service.
drjoshorbitalI could see that.
cryptoeyeslifeWell.
888meta8Is. Yeah, that's the thing. Once you burn these permissions and you know they're actually a resolvable whatever, like reversible name, then you do the sign in, you know, connect wallet with etherium on these platforms. That's where it's going to be useful, right? If it's like everyone says token gated this and that, right. That's going to be useful but.
888meta8But yeah, still, like that's a great idea, clubs and shit. But I think, I know I was thinking about today and I'm an idea about like.
888meta8Like avatars and stuff for people's domains and the moment it's a fucking, it's a shit fight, isn't it? To like find the right one, I feel like, I don't know. There could either be a platform that gets artists to literally submit their own stock photos and they sign away a thing, but if they're, if they're, you know, it turns it into an RT. Or it might be on a layer two, you know, but then if it gets actually used, like with the URL as an avatar, they get like a small token.
888meta8Or they get some, you know, some incentive to like upload the photos to this decentralized like stock depository of photos that like you know it might be a a wedding photo and someone's got a wedding domain or like a photos of beautiful roses and then you know Stoney wants some roses on his sub domains and and that visualize that first visual.
888meta8Like to match with the word there's going to be.
888meta8I think it's something that everyone's overlooking a lot, but at the moment it's just a bit sketchy cause all you have to do is get a URL link, you know? And that giga Chad thing like fuck whoever that model is. I don't know who he is, but surely.
888meta8He could easily go to them and say, take my photo off that thing, you know, listen, that doesn't belong to you. That's just that was taken by this photo, like all these copyright issues that no one's talking about.
888meta8Was thinking like either they could like ENS could sign a deal or one of these platforms domain plug right with with like Adobe stock photos iStock photos and say look this is a new thing, it's trending.
888meta8How about you sign like, offer it to your top like percentage of your stock library people and it allows people to.
888meta8Use like a, a depository of photos for the yeah or that. Then another whole realm of that is have like a.
888meta8Like a network of artists that can like submit, you know, their their artworks under different categories and then people can just go through and go, Yep, we use that boom. And they get like a percentage of it, you know what I mean?
888meta8Anyway, just the thought of a.
888meta8OK.
888meta8Artist what do you mean by artists? Like doing like say that again?
dcbk2laHmm.
dcbk2laLike like this is a lot like fucking paint. People that paint people use like like Photoshop and and all these different apps that produce digital art and want to have somewhere to put it right instead of just uploading it to Instagram. If they had some relationship that was like literally you know terms and conditions. Yeah this is and blah blah blah. Like this is going to become like a repository stock library for.
888meta8Web. Three ENS domains, you know and like if they think they might not look into it and look at the long term thing, but at the end of the day, if they know they're going to get some kickback from that, you know, like a token or like money, yeah, at the end of the day. As if you wouldn't want to upload your photos or your artwork to this new new thing, right?
888meta8What is this new thing that we're talking about? Maybe I'm losing context.
dcbk2laHave you ever used like istockphoto?
888meta8Ohh no.
dcbk2laLike.
888meta8Like a stock photo library? Like site anything. Adobe stock photos, yeah.
888meta8Ohh yeah yeah yeah. Like Shutterfly. Yeah yeah.
dcbk2laHmm.
dcbk2laMm-hmm.
dcbk2laYeah, all of these things, right? So to to to use a photo for your own, like monetary gain, technically you need the permission. Like punks would know about this, I'm sure of it. So if you're just sticking in the URL link and you're gaining money from using someone else's like IP like that, that's a risky, risky, bumpy Rd man. I'm saying make a similar thing like.
888meta8Line 1.
888meta8So the internal fun and yeah, you know what I mean? It's like so it's like a stock photo library, artwork library and people go in and they're like ohh, they type in their domain and next to that could literally be a link or a thing like a.
888meta8That's.
dcbk2laFind your image here and it opens up another browser tab and it's like Adobe High. You know high quality photos are like premium, you have to like purchase them or like at least have a like a subscription to it. So then it gives you the right to use all of their phones photos.
888meta8Do you see what I'm saying?
888meta8Gotcha. Yeah, I got you.
dcbk2laBecause like with Adobe, they've got things coming out like Photoshop, like you can now export things as NFTS and it requires it's setting up and connecting your wallet. But.
888meta8That they're getting on the bandwagon, man. So once it's all connected through Adobe and Photoshop.
888meta8There's this whole like network of Adobe creators. It's called Behance. I think it's Behance.
888meta8And there's some inc