Welcome, welcome guys.

That episode 5.

It's no fish cofounder. I'm waiting on my co-host deal.

For us to get started.

We're gonna play some music. Wait for the for the for the music. Wait for the room to fill up.

If you're listening to the recording, you know, maybe Fast forward about 5 minutes.

Be patient with us here to Wednesday, December the 14th. Got a lot, a lot to talk about, a lot of exciting things happening. So let's wait for people to get in here and then we'll we'll start it up.

Start start with this. Start with this.

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Mr Michael.

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So you can.

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My appointment shows.

Morning.

Gabby music.

Might make you.

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Good morning, good morning.

Good morning. I'm here here monkey on some breakfast.

Ohh breakfast, I thought.

OK.

I guess I don't know. There's I eat one of my my wife beats me. That's pretty much it.

I hear you. I hear you.

Let me know if it is OK with with the music or you think we're just waiting on some people to get in here.

Sounds good. Just leave the music playing and until people get here I'll finish my lunch. Slash breakfast here while we wait and it'll be a nice show. Already. I don't know if you can see the the drafted tweet that I created on the label video account.

No, I can't. I think it's only per device it seems on your device.

Ohh OK. So. So I'm gonna have to hop in to tweet it out when we're ready and then we can share it to the top. So hopefully it won't.

Fucking love.

I won't boot you off. No, it shouldn't.

Garden.

Like kick you because I'm gonna go into the account? I don't think so.

No, no, no, no. It's long as you don't jump into the space under the barbershop space. We should be good.

Mother.

Alright then, should be fine. I'll tweet it out. I don't know, like 20 minutes into like the space.

Yeah.

And then we'll take it from there. Let me invite on one ride before I forget.

One dash, yeah.

Are you gonna play inside?

They're all parents are parents.

Going for a while?

So, yeah, San Diego.

Cairo.

And good evening.

I'm going to go. Bye, bye, yeah.

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The autosave save.

They are waiting.

My love.

POF.

Still you.

Hello.

Primero dio.

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You're looking for me.

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The local gala.

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Photoshop.

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Alone.

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Thank you.

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Going on, you know, cafe.

Hey you know and so yeah, it's ohh yeah, that's why I'm on. That's why I'm on.

Mother.

You know, there's a, you know there's a, you know, flash launching.

Music.

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What?

Hello.

They won't.

And they.

Get a companion.

Yeah, so far.

Thank you.

Victoria.

Take you there that week.

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Understand.

Yeah.

No, no, no, they hook up.

Holiday.

Yeah, yeah.

OK, goodbye. See you baby. OK. Nobody get nobody.

And off everyday finitive too sorry.

Dammit.

The way the way I see it.

OK.

The Prince.

Why? Why Latina?

OK.

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Well, if I leave when I thought I left.

The one red.

All I wanna be when I die.

Wanna fight this?

I want.

I mean I'm, I mean under said you need to go by.

No.

I'm guessing comma too many.

You know, just say the word.

No, no, no, no. It's all good.

And they hate that.

Yeah.

Vehicle.

Hey gang.

The whole like.

Nagasawa Princess, I said co-host. Everybody tell you said call host. So that two. Sorry.

Yeah.

What happened?

I mean that one, right. You could just mute them and kick them yourself when you go right ahead.

Hahaha.

I didn't hear you.

Johnny. Johnny. Johnny.

Duck.

Whenever I'm mute.

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Hey, that's what's happening.

Like I was like.

Belly.

In.

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No, that's impressive.

That's a bar 1, right?

Hello, I'm gonna go down.

Sorry about the delay.

So you highlight series so you don't hold down the amount volcano and last but one rat.

With the spatial sukara.

And I will be important, OK, simple.

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A president.

You are a problem.

OK, but, but.

You will see me now.

I mean.

They will.

So we're gonna get with a couple more minutes you know let's just snow is gonna put up the the music a little longer see if we have more people come in get one ride a second to settle down. If anyone has a question for one ride relating to what I just mentioned you're welcome to go ahead and and and ask when we tell you. But let's try to keep the conversation you know, on topic and and not try to divert too much from from one rat and her experience here in this space. I would really appreciate t

Very much.

I just didn't want to believe it.

You know that.

Well, right, my cousin, I'm finishing up my my breakfast, I said. I'm about to.

I'm getting ready.

No, it's OK. It's a musica is giving me flashbacks.

OK.

I'll tell me about it. I don't tell me you were like me in the early 2000s, you know, enjoying having it done and like running around the city.

Ohh man everywhere and don't know clubs and dikeman.

Ohh man, I used to be in a car club like one of those racing clubs in the Bronx.

Yeah.

So we used to just run around all around the city, yeah.

Yo-yo, yo, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. One, right? Every time Theo says this so this story, he's like I used to be in one of those car clubs in the Bronx, but he doesn't say which car club in the Bronx was it.

Interesting. OK.

Ola.

Yeah.

Ohh wow.

Home.

I can tell you the name, yeah, Team Revolution. No, I'll tell you a little bit and there's a great point I'm happy to say so. It was the name of the car club was Team Revolution and we were part of the Rough Rider division. So we used to ride around the city with a rough rider vest and go to the, you know, the park Club with. It was really nice because through Friday of course they mostly were known for being on motorcycles, but they they have they they sponsor car clubs within the city.

And they will allow you to buy the vest and just represent. It was really nice. Good time, good memory.

Oh, that's nice. Usually the the clubs in the Bronx for it's usually motorcycle clubs. I know a few people that are like in motorcycle clubs up there, but there are some car clubs and that's cool that they let you like join and then and competitive and that helping rough ridership was so cool back in the day.

Times is so different now.

Yeah, that's what you know. When he used to say that I was like that. That's a big deal. Rough Riders was big back in the day.

That's a yeah. They still, like, I want to say they're still big now, but they made such an impact in the hip hop culture that is like, you know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Ohh yeah, I'm not with you one ride, you know, Rough Rider back then and even now I don't know if they still, you know, sponsor car clubs today, because I'm talking about like 22 years back.

I haven't seen a roughrider mixtape in at least a decade.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, we all know that they're in great BMX. They passed away last year, I believe. So that that was a big hit because he was the the, you know, the basically the poster child of that movement and he, you know, I I'm a big fan. He got me through many tough times in my life. When I was young, I felt like his music was like a father figure talking to you, especially those of us who maybe didn't have one around. I really gravitated to hip hop to kind of get some wisdom and knowledge of what was goi

So I I definitely owed.

Is that yeah.

That of gratitude, to be MX for all his guidance. Because if you listen to his lyrics, you can tell you he's he's trying to walk you through what you may go through as a black or brown man. And it's, you know, lovely.

And he has such a, I don't want to say a tragic life, but he had a really hard one and I think like at least he got some experience, some good, and it's just so it's tragic now because we saw it in real time, like him coming up and him going through every struggle. That's fucking possible in a way and.

His music was so to me, it wasn't a father figure type of thing. It was more like to get all my anger out when I was listening to his music and a lot of people don't talk about what a great actor he was like. He was a really, really good actor and it's really sad that that that happened. It was like, it was like Tupac. Tupac was another one that was a fucking fantastic actor. I was just listening to a podcast about the shooting, his shooting and his death and I was just, you know, reliving.

That time too, and it's it just sucks that we lose all these, all these artists, all these people that that change our lives in different way. People we never meet, but through their art, they they they change us. They they help us grow. And and then we see them get taken away, tragically through all these crazy circumstances that wouldn't be befalling them if they weren't black and brown, you know? So.

Yeah.

Yeah, I love them myself and I brought him up.

No, no. Yeah, listen, I really, really at a very young age depending on hip hop.

And I was one of those kids that would, you know, have his Walkman and his CD and would try to get all the albums when they came out. And I was rocking, you know, either Eminem, DMX, biggie, like you said, food pop.

Yeah.

Many, I mean many of the greats. And that was my experience going to school as, you know, walk into high school and I'm walking back as an introvert, you know, it was my myself and my headphones. So there was.

I was going to say those headphones saved lives, yo, those fucking headphones or I can't live without mine, especially the over the ear ones. That's actually a way for you to center yourself when you're over stimulated when you're neurodiverse. So it doesn't, it doesn't surprise me that you would because a lot of us are so are nor diverse and these people still don't know that they are. And it's so funny because when I talk to someone I know automatically like oh, you're autistic or you have a y

It's it's one of those things the, the headphones thing is like one of those big markers of of neurodiversity because sometimes you can get so overstimulated that you do have to like hide yourself away from the world. But because a lot of us can't, we find like different things that we can use to like quiet the world down. So like I used to think I had really bad hearing because when I was growing up and before volume control existed.

I used to put my my headphones up to the highest it could go, just so I didn't have to hear the world around me as I was taking the train, going to school and stuff.

Umm.

And I'm sorry I lost my chainsaw real quick. That's the ADHD.

Hmm.

No, no. Yeah. No, no, no. I was gonna agree with you. Me the same. I used to ride on the subway everyday, you know, that was the first half of my life up until maybe my early 20s. I would ride everywhere on the subway, on the bus in New York City. And yeah, it, you know, it's it's an experience you're in there. There are so many faces. Everyone has their own personality. And, you know, everyone's told them themselves and you rarely have these moments, but, you know.

You always have your headphones and and and that with you to to take the ride, so that's great and these things save lives and I always say music.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And especially these, these artists of our time, like like I said, Biggie, you know, they're not with us. But these are the prophets of our time. Like these, these individuals are going to be looked at 100 years from now like profits like Jesus or Mohammed. And I say that. Why? Because they're, they're at the beginning of hip-hop and we're seeing how hip hop is spreading in every way and and we're seeing derivatives like like it done and then bold that derives from that and how big it is.

Wow. Around the world. So I I just see hip-hop just growing in every way and these individuals who gave us so much and we were lucky enough to.

See them while they were alive and hear them and and and. You can identify with the music, but they won't be forgotten. Their work is done.

Yeah, big fun I was. I couldn't think of it. I don't know why my brain was like.

Yeah, I think like that about. I think I thought about big pun because I was so lucky enough to ohh what I was like enough to be in that era. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry. It's just I got excited because I was lucky enough to live like I was. I was a regular at Jimmy'z Browns Cafe back in the day, so it's like I got.

See all of that and all sit. I got to see all of that and be there with these people. So it's it's absolutely true what you say because you go back and you listen to a lot of other music all these all these people and.

It still resonates right now. Not because not just because they were talking about their environment and a lot of us are still and are from that environment, but because they are when when you live in the fringes of like society or you live in places where are not considered not normal but like good or whatever, you get to see the real face of the world. So you can kind of like.

Pattern guess where things can go. And a lot of these artists are neurodiverse and a lot of neurodiverse people are really, really good at finding patterns. That's why a lot of people who are nor diverse, you know, draw or or work in in careers where patterns are involved, stocks and bonds. A lot of people who are into NFT's are probably into it because they're able to follow all the patterns of all the different crypto coins and stuff. So I I definitely believe that.

They are a kind of profit because I don't believe any people can see into the future, but I do believe forecasting the future based on patterns of the past. So hell yes.

Yeah, maybe maybe I used the wrong word by saying profit, but I I meant to say, well, I yeah.

No, it's a perfect word because it means to forecast the future. So it's a perfect word. It's just, it's a it's a word that's used a lot in religion and it's politicized and it's made to make people angry and it divides people. But in the context that you're using it, it's absolutely, 100% true.

Yeah.

Thank you. We have thought, I've thought about them that way. And you know what? That was funny, I tell myself, was millennials, or people that are in that category are also pretty special in the context of humanity and its history, right? Because we're in an era, right? This new Millennium, right, that just turns the 21st century. But also there's so much happening in history right now.

And you know, the turn of technology, we're the first ones to experience the the smartphones and really test it out for, you know, and who knows what's going to happen 102 hundred years from now. But this time, right now, these last 30 years are key, so the rest of humanity's history and technology. So I just feel, and I told myself this in the past because I, you know, I always have these crazy ideas and I shared with my friends in the past, but I always told myself that millennials are going t

Hmm.

Right. For the rest of humanity, like moving forward, people, humanity is gonna look back and think about this time and they're gonna think about millennials and what we did to shift history. And I think we're doing it now. And I don't want to exclude any other generation, but it's just, you know, our categories, millennials and, you know, that's pretty cool.

Well we're that we're a generation. It's funny because I'm on the cusp of like generation X and and the millennial generation because it's such a weird way to to gauge a generations by by that that time span because it's weird but.

You know, we are the generation. That is where we're old enough.

To um, to remember things how they used to be, without being too.

Like entrenched in even more of the past politics and stuff like that. But we're still young enough where we can work in spaces and and in politics and and in a in a bunch of other places without with still understanding the the current situation. Because you know politicians that are that are on right now like politicians that have power and stuff, they're usually in their 60s, so millennials are like in their 40s.

They're in their in their 30s. They're not in their 20s anymore, but they're like in their 30s and their 40s. And that's the time when when people usually really find themselves as people and start really, you know, making changes in in their lives and in the lives around them. Like in in the Roman era, like in the time of Julius Caesar, you weren't considered a full grown adult man until you were 30. Once before then you couldn't even get.

Lands, there was like a couple of titles that you couldn't get, you couldn't join certain things until you were 30 years old. And it's kind of still like that. Like people don't don't really start getting a a foot in the door of life, I think period until you've reached like 30. So our generation would be the generation that can cause a lot of change and it can, it can do a lot of good and it can do a lot of bad.

Because our generation is also very savvy. We did see the change from like analog to digital. So we know how to like understand all the systems around us because a lot of us also help build them since a lot of people got into coding like when it was really early on and they they had the access to it. You know, they're the ones that build all the systems around us. People don't understand, like for example, Amazon Web Services runs a lot of like everything that we use.

And the people that I've built that aren't people who are in their 70s, they're they're our generation and those are things that completely change the world around us. So I definitely think that millennials and and that last tail end of generation X that gets they don't get spoken about very much and they should because they also saw a lot of the change, but they were also present for a lot of the things that we didn't see are are what's going to.

Or what's gonna make things different. It's why I think the NFT and the whole web three thing is being adopted. I don't think it's because of Gen Z or or what is a Gen not Gen ZI forgot where we where we at now when the generations but I I think it's.

Yeah, I I get confused all the time. I think it's why.

Ohh, why? OK, I don't even know anymore yo. So but I think that our generation is the generation that got it to where it is now because.

They're the generation that owns those companies and has those funds and and has and has the, how do I say like the the vision to see it because we were able to see that shift. So I'm an artist, right? So in the in the art world, there are galleries that still have no vision for how to display digital art. And then there are and those galleries are usually owned by people in their 60s and their 70s. That's who owns those galleries.

So if I go to a gallery which I just, I just went to a gallery recently to to look at the space.

That generate, that gallery is owned by a millennial and that gallery has screens and those Web 3 conferences and stuff like that. So that's that shows you how what you're saying is correct that that is the generation to move things forward because they're the generation that understands that things will change. Of course there's pushback from people in our generation too. There are a lot of that always depends on the circumstances. I believe that you were raising the the country that you were r

Because, you know, cultural differences will make you see the world completely different from someone else, and technology as well, so yeah.

No, no. Great grade point. Uh, go go ahead. No, I know you wanted to talk for a while. Jump in.

No, not today. It's all about one right today.

Wow. Wow. You. Yeah. You guys. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let let's do a little reset. You guys came in hot. I love it. I love the energy. I love the alpha. You know that that we can't get into Rough Riders and and all these great legends that gave us a voice. Yeah. They they they gave us a voice, you know, for for us growing up in certain communities and inspired us to kind of, you know, look outside the block, right. Like look outside what what you're surrounding is and speak.

About your struggles and how you know necessarily that wasn't the end point. So I love that. I love the energy. I just wanted to reset real quick before we start.

You know, this is history in Liberia.

What cause one rat is actually the first female to sit in LA Sedia?

Bullshit.

And I cut my own hair.

And not only that and.

Because they're only and not only that, she is Dominican and Puerto Rican, so.

That's right, this Santiago little scam, valeros.

What will my family from as well?

Facts we're from Atlanta Blvd. In Pueblo Nuevo.

I put below.

Let me let me back you up for you, but it's.

Really good, yeah.

And as you know.

Following and and and Hango.

You're the problem.

Ohh my.

Funny. That is so hilarious. It comes to Domino's like that too.

I think you sound like somebody I know as well, or like maybe a cousin that you have. I don't know, funny.

I am million cousins and The thing is that a lot of people from that area they live indictment, which is so funny because a lot of people from receival, they do live indictment.

We took over Washington Heights. That's all I can say.

That's facts, too.

Me too.

Not because, you know I was raised by my mom and my mom is coming too. Well like I said originally from Platanal, most people don't know what planet is because it's very remote you know. And but my dad's side from my dad is from San Cristobal capital. So I I kind of visited both sides you know, and I got a little bit of of of both sides, you know, with experience. So, and I went to Puerto Rico all the time as well. So it was pretty nice growing up.

Yeah, Puerto Rico's not my my dad's Puerto Rican. And but my mom raised me as well, and I also went. I also lived in Dominican Republic. I went to school there, so I went to primary school there again, Mommy.

Dominicana, how she is like in one place too long. So we used to go back and forth. So you're used to like first and 2nd grade isn't the Domingo and then we would come back to New York. And then in high school I went back and I did like 2 years of high school over there. So you'll be a Yai and Santiago she actually.

I never lived in Puerto Rico. I went when I was real little. But, you know, I'm close to my dad and I'm also like very in touch with, you know, my indigenous roots of being Taino, which a lot of Dominicans are also that, you know, it's just that it's a lumber route still like story.

Wilson it was pork.

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Therefore you get land and you get certain rights. You don't necessarily really have to be white. You just have to write it down and and like this own your your, your, your indigeneity you have to say you're not saying deal. So a lot of people started just writing white and that led to this myth that we don't exist and in 2000 I want to say 10, but it might have been later this group of scientists.

A genetic study of the people of Puerto Rico and actually my DNA is also part of that study. And it found that I think it was like 75 to 80% of the people on the island have more than 20% of indigenous dienal DNA. And it's the same from Dominican Republic comma Miss Clough, OK, Domingo was the first real port of immigration in the New World. So a lot of people used to come through through that list.

Yeah, they spaniola because that's what it was back then. But if you guys ever did like a DNA test.

You will find that you two are indigenous and a lot of people they don't know that.

You see, but it's there.

Yeah. And this makes because I did my 23andMe test and I'm unfortunately have less than 2% indigenous. It's mostly popular. It's there, it's there, yeah.

Is so there's you know, back in the day the United States used to have this one drop rule where if you had one drop of African blood or anything else that's what you were considered.

And it's funny how we so easily dismissed that little bit. I have way more than that. I have 20% actually. But if people are so easy to dismiss.

That DNA just because it's 2% and that's they shouldn't be like that because that's just part of your 2%. But your parents, because we only get 50% of the mix from each of them, might be even more. And you're still descended from those people. Just like you're descended from the Spanish that are in your DNA and the African that are in your DNA. You know that's that's still there and probably Jewish too. A lot of people in America in Dominican Republic have Jewish ancestry because they came over.

With the ships from Spain, because they were being persecuted at the time during the Inquisition, so they would escape and come to Dominican Republic back then Hispaniola. So yeah, and Canary Islands, a lot of people have DNA from the Aboriginal people of the Canary Islands because that was the last place that the Spanish colonized before hitting the Caribbean. So a lot of those people who were taken as indentured servants or whatever were put on the ships.

And also brought to the islands to to serve the crown, you could say so, yeah.

One, right. Let me just say I love how much knowledge you have on all this. I'm a person that likes to study history and I try to share some some historical points that that I learned in college as well and throughout my, my like my adult life. And yeah, you're on point with everything and I can tell that you're very knowledgeable on the subject.

You better not discount that 2%. You better be proud of that 2%.

Seattle salary.

Hmm.

And yeah I didn't mean to this this this count, my 2%. I it's just no never listen that that 2% takes over the rest of the 98%. I'll tell you that much because I that's what I want to identify with myself. But you know but it's just it's it shows how horrible it was how how big of a shift in humanity and its history it was when this place was colonized.

But yeah, you know, we're here now and we're trying to preserve it. And I think Web three and the blockchain is one way we can make sure it stays around for forever.

So.

That's alright. Well, it's OK.

Oh my God, yes. Yes it is. It fucking is. Because Oh my God, I just cursed. My bad. I try not to curse too much in spaces because.

I know. You'll see a little, you know. OK. I don't know. You're having it in my life. OK? I have, OK.

No, you're right.

You're right.

The trigger words triggers.

Yeah.

Only they don't go outside. So when they hear too much profanity, it's like when I said yo. So I tried to I I try to keep it like, you know, whatever. Yeah them Trevor words, thank you. That's the word I was trying to remember.

Yo.

Yay.

Well, because of this celebratory event right at the barbershop of 1 rat being the first Latina and female on the chair, and because of the Christmas spirit deal, can you prep what we have in store for everybody who's currently here?

Merry Christmas.

Yes, I'm working on that right now. I'm working on that right now.

OK. Thank you. So we have a surprise, um, thanks Gabe. We have a surprise for the early comers of the shop and for for some late comers if they, if they get in, get it in time. But I did want to also highlight tonight's IRL events.

Sunny capitals end of the year celebration and knowledges. Beautiful beautiful Christmas toy drive is tonight downtown and the LES. I know most of the people in this room will be there. It probably everybody except Herrera and Prancer, but you guys will be there in spirit.

So you know we appreciate that. We're excited for that. I pin some details up top on the flyer where it is if if for for my stragglers that come in late.

And before we give one rat, this is the floor to kind of share who she is and what her story is for the people that don't know her.

She is a queen that we met in a space and had a beautiful conversation with and we were like yo, we F with her energy and her vibe and because she's one of us, what she is doing in the web, three in the NFT, how she's building her own legacy is remarkable. So we wanted to highlight it and we wanted to bring it to the shop.

Um.

I love it. Well, I'm great. Great news everyone. The pen is already a pen to the Jumbotron in the top. So what's going on here?

Uh thanks to ahead of City and him taking the initiative to mention this and actually tell us to to do it. He's like you. We gotta do this and the community. Jay Harmony what's going on here and still got right right. He he put my brain. I probably have some sort of also neurologic disability I don't know. But you know whatever.

That is, I don't know where logic disability let me stop you right there if I think it's OS.

OK. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Cerebral completamente differente persona that's able to do wonderful things. But unfortunately the world that we live in is not made for people like us, it's made for people with a different type of break. So I don't know, ological disability, I wouldn't go so far as to call it that. I call it a different system, a difference of a brain. No, OK, it's like.

It's like having a superpower, but then you have like a like a weakness. It's like kryptonite. That's always how I see it because I'm able to do and I'm sure you're able to do it. So many people are able to do things that that you'll be thinking like, oh, I need to, I need to take a class for 10 years to learn how to do this. But for some reason I picked it up real quick and I can do it better than someone that's been doing this for 20 years. Or you have like this gift of of something that not a

Like you but you're special. But then you have like problems getting to work on time which is was one of my biggest problems. I work for myself now. But like yeah I just that's one of the stigmas I'm trying to like to get people to to let go of because The thing is that there's so many of us that do not know because they've been masking since they were children that it it'll it'll scare people.

No, no, no.

Away from from finding out. And let me tell you, when you really understand your brain, your life changes because you're able to understand why the world treated me like this or why I do this certain thing. It's it's pretty awesome. OK, I'm sorry. I'll stop talking now. You think I don't be. And I'm so sorry.

No, you. You were right. So thank you for correcting me.

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No, no, I got you. You're right too. I'm gonna now rephrase it to neurological gift. How about that?

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Ah, there you go. Oh, I like that. I like that. I might steal that. Actually, I'll borrow it.

You can feel it. You can do whatever you want with that. It's not like that. But yeah, you know, thank you for saying that. I just meant to say that, you know us.

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Hmm.

Some of most of us are come from from urban cities. We don't get the attention or maybe early on that we should do diagnose these things. So I will probably one of those you know my mom raised me by herself into the the Mexico but she definitely going to have the resources for anything like that. So you know we we came out OK on the other end but there might be something in there that has not been diagnosed but I think it turned out OK. I worked with it and I'm almost 40 so it is what it is.

Ohh, you let me tell you that I would. I didn't get any of my diagnosis until after 30 because just like you, my mother was a single mother and she was working in a factory all the time. I was a latchkey kid. I spent a lot of time at the Public Library. That's why I'm so mad about what's happening in New York with the funding. And I was really. I still am. But I was very, very.

I was gifted, so I never had a problem with my academia except for math, because I have a learning disability called this kakulia, and I'm I was still so 80s, were smart, but I was still intelligent enough where my grade was still good enough, but math was always the hardest because of that. And all of these things that I know now about myself were things that none of my teachers caught, and just so you guys know a good way to catch.

A learning disability in a child is when they do well in every class except for like one. That's probably where the disability is. With me, I had like one hundreds in every class except for math, where it was like 75 or 70. Like it was just, it was like average. So that's how I was. Oh, and I'm a girl. So with girls, it's like, it's like we don't get, we don't get that attention at all.

Unless we're like super disruptive and something else that I was was I was. I was good in class when my mother's Dominican, so you know me and me.

We are letting go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It incredibly so. That's that's them conditioning you and programming you and and teaching you to mask. Because although I was quiet and sitting in class inside my head, that shit was like a fucking party in there. And I would get distracted. I look out the window and then I would start talking sometimes in class, like over talk, but not in the disruptive way. So that's how a lot of kids especially like in New York City.

Um, that doesn't get picked up on. And with our parents, bendito, they're always, they were always at least you know that. I that's what I'm saying. I understand. They were always so busy.

No problem. There you go. Encima deso. It was just like they were trying to survive at that time.

No one, right? And so I don't cut you off. Not only their problems follow, but I'm familiar.

Oh my God, yes.

Santo Domingo and had it public.

Getting banned because then you're also like you're your own Ellis Island when you get an apartment here back in the day.

Ideal man.

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Listen, my mom was one of 10 children, and she was the first one to go to the city, Santiago from black bananas. And then Kate, the first one to immigrate legally because we went through a tough marriage and her husband had a green card. And she got it through that point and she made it here that way. And then she brought every one of her siblings and her mother.

Overtime.

She was Ellis Island.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I, I, I commend my mom because she did that as an immigrant. She was an early entrepreneur that had her own salon here. And through that she was able to bring everyone and my extended family. You know, most of them are here because of that grain of salt that she planted, that seed that she planted early on.

The the biggest thing is that when you're neurodiverse, I hate to like break it to everyone, but you don't catch that. You can't develop that from a vaccine or from being exposed to lead or some crazy shit like that. That shit is her Reddit.

It's hereditary and.

When we get a little older, at least some of us who have gotten our diagnosis and we look back at like our family members and our parents and stuff, we're like, yo.

Little Mama tambien omito K gagea. Cause stuttering is like, assigned to like I had. I had uncles that stutter. I had uncles that used to pin any insomnia and nobody under me. But that's because sometimes the neurodiverse brain has, like, a different circadian rhythm. So the reason we're staying up at night is because that's the time we're supposed to be up. But the world is made for 9:00 to 5:00, so that's something that's just something else that fucks up our whole excuse me, that messes up.

Their whole like existence. But when you yeah, that's when you get the best.

No, they didn't.

Ohh, I'm with you. One ride. I mean, think about indigenous people. They didn't, they didn't prescribe to all these rules. No, they they would take care of nature. They will get up. When the sun rose, they were, you know, hunts and live happy. And you know what? They didn't even practice with the milligram. They were they were practice polygamy, right. So no one owned anything. So I could have my house and my family, but the other tribe member could stay in my house and use my bow and you know.

I I like where this is going.

Yeah and the Tainos and the Tainos were the theos the the uncles like that. So the the Tainos were matriarchal. Sorry. The the Tainos were matriarchal society. So the people that were the most important were the were the female members of the tribe. So that's why they were male and female casitas. But the the power of like the the arancia they they chief them came from the female side and when you had a kid it can look.

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The deal in a manner of the belama. And let me tell you something. My ADHD calls me right now to go down a hole, and I can't remember why I started talking about that. And that's another sign of ADHD.

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So you have to tell me hand bit if you want your indigenous guidance come to a deal.

And that's what we call each other primos all the time. All a lot of the, a lot of the, the vernacular that we use as Dominicans in Spanish actually comes from the way that the Tainos used to talk to each other and their words. And you have to like unfortunately you have to like really sit down and study and and go through all the words and stuff. But the more you study the more you understand that the Spanish that you're speaking a lot of it is borrowed words, you know so and and African words.

Lots of African words.

Oh yeah, that makes sense because also when the Spanish came and colonized, I think most of the immigrants that.

Hmm.

Yes.

That um lived in in Santiago right in that area and see wow, they came from a specific city in in in Spain that they spoke like gonna eat. So there's a lot of reason why like you have a certain accent if you come from that side because that had had heritary as well. It comes from my ancestors.

Yeah.

So they also came from the Canary Islands. The people in in Santiago that settled there were from Portugal, the Canary Islands and Spain. And that's why sometimes if people do their DNA, they'll see that it says Iberian. And although you see Spain there, which is huge, Portugal is right next to it and it's mad tiny and that's part of the Iberian Peninsula as well. So you might just be more Portuguese than you are.

Yeah.

That should not know it.

In my case I have like 11% Portuguese and like 10% Spanish.

Yeah, there you go.

And yeah, and then with some African as well. And then like I know 2% stood out because that's what I was looking for, the indigenous and it was like less than two or 3%, but it was there like you said, it was there.

It is there.

It is. It's there. And if, and it's so funny because you know, going to school here in New York when, when whenever you had to take a test for the city and back then they used to give you a test for everything and they would make you fill out your race. And I never, never knew what to put in there. I would want to put the mannequin. That's what I would want to put. I was like, why isn't that there? Why they don't have like a.

I think that's a Dominican because that's how I identified as Dominican, cause I had already gone to school and I had been back and forth. But then as I got older, I noticed that they did start adding like other things. I think they added Puerto Rican at one point, and I always wanted to put Native American, but it never felt right because I knew that I wasn't Native American to, you know, the mainland of North America. And I definitely wasn't Alaskan or Inuit.

You know, I think that.

But I knew that when I looked in the mirror. I looked like in India, like your Barracuda India. So much so that unfortunately, when I used to like, you know, go out and and go to places where there's mostly white people, there would be like, oh, Pocahontas. Or if I was in school, I would play an Indian in a in a play or something. OK. So India, you know, and a lot of us.

Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

A lot of, I'm sorry, and I just think a lot of us look in the mirror and it's like we were conditioned to not see what's there.

I just think that's it's a very interesting thing.

Hmm.

Yes.

Yeah, I think that that question is the question that at least speaking for me as well and for for my other fellow Dominicans because I know a lot of Dominicans felt the same way. And not just Dominicans, a lot of Spanish people too just felt like where do I belong? Like none of those. I don't, I I don't fit in any of those. And then the closest one is the the Native American and we're kind of like alright, like if I have to, but like you know.

And also black. Black is another one because when you're when you're black and you're like let's say Dominican or Puerto Rican and you're in school here, it will, it won't say black, it will say African American and you'll look at it and you'll be like, I'm not African-American, I'm Dominican or Puerto Rican, I'm black, but I'm not African American. So you know that this country lives to put you in a category and a box anyway. And it's also the IT, it lives for that and it all it also.

You know, it's a lot about us that were born here in the United States. There's already a sense of where do I belong. As soon as you go back to your parents country and they remind you that you're not really Dominican, you are you agreeing that you actually American, but then you come back here and they can't stop asking you where you're from, even though you told them New York City, because there's no fucking way. You're American, you know, cuz you're not white.

So there's a, there's a sense of not belonging for first generations, Latinos and even second or third generation because it's like it's like you're not accepted anywhere. So I I think actually the that journey to finding, you know, our indigenous roots or African roots, I think it's for a lot of us it did start with not feeling accepted.

Neither in the place where you were born nor the place where you supposedly come from. So yeah.

Wow, that that is so beautiful. Alright, and let me just say that during the struggle of my life as a first generation Dominican American that identified.

Hmm.

Yeah, Dominican and American, but really didn't understand the country that I was born in, right, until I hit a certain age. And to realize that just what you just said that, you know, you just don't feel that you belong. So you kind of lean back towards your indigenous roots roots because that feels more right and I'm going to point in my life.

Well, actually I've been living like this for a while. Well, I've I've been in protest of of of of the system right where where I used to work, for example, for 10 years. It was a very.

Don't protest all the systems, by the way. OK. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Ohh I do it in a way, but I have a family so I have to support them. But I do it in my own way. So I work for 10 years. It was like a very short end tie, clean cut. I was one of those hipsters that I I had my beard every day. There was some days I will I will wake up upset with the system and I will wear my Dominican hat and I would just go to work.

Oh my God.

Like street clothes and nobody would say anything to me because the way I spoke with yes.

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That's the silent protest. I love it because I I would do the same thing.

Hmm.

So if you see me with a beard, when I when I started using a beard, that's when I started to realize that I didn't want to live by society standards. And like, I gotta shave and I gotta wear this to fit. And no, I'm a professional. I could do my job no matter how I look.

That's right.

That was important to me so I I stayed. I've stayed. Truth in that sense. But Oh my God this has been such a great conversation so far. Let me just quickly quickly reset the guide everyone to the top. We have that poll app. I created a poll app for anyone that's here. Now if you follow that link to the top, you can get your free pull app and it stands for proof of attendance protocol and it's simply a free NFT that you'll be able to use as a momentum, as a badge that you were here and then in th

See.

We can also use it for maybe air drop some some some entities through the people that came and we're gonna create one every week. I I plan to create one for every last episode that we have and then we'll we'll spontaneously create one for events that we do IRL like we're doing today as well.

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Yeah, I have a I have a question. Is that link only for for one cause? I'm getting messages on the side that they're having issues with it saying it was already claimed.

OK, So what I'm gonna do? Yeah, because I gotta figure out.

I haven't claimed anything.

You know what I'm gonna do is this, I'm gonna add the QR code because what happens is every time you scan the QR code, they generate a new link. So the link that I provided was the one that that they gave me.

Gonna do. I'm gonna, I'm gonna pin the QR code. You're gonna you guys are gonna have to figure out how to scan it with another device or see it on your computer, and then scan it and try to figure out how we can make one link work for more than one person. Sorry about that. Let me work on getting that for you guys.

Or we can also if you scan it maybe a pin the the on the bottom right, you guys can pin the the link in the in the bubble in the chat and that way we can kind of we know who did it, who didn't do it and then we can kind of generate some more. I do want to go before we kind of reset a little to printer and then Herrera because I know that you guys had your hands up so printer.

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That's called infodumping, by the way. That's literally a thing.

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I just wanted to commend you. Well, #1I pinned up top the the the mural that she was talking about when she was out there and it was 20 degrees. There's a quick little video about her. Yeah. So darling, like, retweet me hante show some love on that post.

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Number one, I want to commend you for right having a plan, knowing where you fit where you don't fit, having a plan to get yourself out and, you know, become self-employed. Start doing your own thing. Like, you know, that's something that we don't highlight and we don't vocalize enough. There's a lot. There's a lot of people that are that feel stuck in their jobs. They feel stuck, you know, in their careers and what they're doing, and they're miserable and they feel like that that's the only thi

It's not.

No you don't.

Important thing that you can do is have a plan, right. And and take baby steps, take action steps to move forward and and and and live better. It's your life at the end of the day. You don't have to live, you know, behind a desk or you know doing something like yeah. So I want to commend you and I want to thank you for sharing that and and taking that, you know taking that process. And then the second thing that I wanted to commend you on was.

That's right.

Your resume qualifications for helping other artists or helping other individuals because right, like that everybody looks for the same ish on the resume in corporate America, when in reality the people that need it the most don't have that same ish. So if we can kind of clean that and like you know, there's people that they what they're trying to do and write the opportunities that they're looking for, they just haven't had it. So that's why their resume might look a little plain.

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Yo, I was just telling my friend that I was like, yo, let me tell you, the opportunities for you were there. They just don't want you to see them.

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Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, I do want to commend you for for that and I want you to continue that especially, right helping Latinas and Latinos and anybody that's looking to get started as an artist, as a creator. So I wanted to kind of give you your flowers on that and shout you out because you, you brush that through quickly. And I was like, wait, wait, wait, no, no, we got to speak on this a little bit.

Ohh because is that you know what it is when I when I do stuff, first of all, I don't like, I don't even know how I brought that up. That was the info dumping because I like talking about that stuff. Like the things that I do like I I like to not talk about them because when you do stuff like that it's like I don't know you do it to to help so you don't do it for like.

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Yeah, you don't. You don't need people to know that. But I actually in a way, through my people to know because back in the day when I first started, like really going hard with the paint, I used to get people dming me all the time, like asking for help or how do I do this? And that's what that's the thing. Like when you're becoming an artist, when you have this, well, you've probably always been an artist, but now you want to get paid for your art. That's what it is. So when you decide to do th

Excuse me? They wouldn't even answer me at all or they'd be really pretentious. And that's something that I promised myself that I would never do. And I've been lucky where I have met some artists who have told me things, but most of the time artists are so guarded and so focused and then egg.

Yang, because we're all the same with that, that they can. They can totally like and they end up gatekeeping and they also end up like completely shutting out other people that could really help the art movement, you know, like this thing with the NFT's. Let me tell you when NFT's people started reaching out to me about them late.

Late 2020, I wanna say November because I've always made digital art. Digital art is something that's very accessible to people who are of low income or just don't have time to go out and buy canvases and paint and you know, it's a whole thing. So they were already reaching out, plus the photography, they were already reaching out and I did not understand. Excuse me, he said.

And not understand what NFTS were. And I had this idea, which is still true about it, but it's also true about the regular physical arm market. So I had this idea where and a tease where this thing that we're back for the planet, that's like the number one thing, right. And then there was, oh, they're using it to launder money. Like I give a phone. Like, like I care what people are doing with their money to clean it. But it was like more like all human trafficking and stuff like that. Let me tel

Have the realm, like the physical art market, like big galleries and stuff. That's why they sell these artworks for the price that they do. It's just it's just part of this whole art game. And I didn't really understand that it was about I'm going to really own this stuff because I can make what I, you know, I do a lot of like the city work too. So a lot of my work I would put in the street without thinking, you know, all someone's going to steal it or anything like that.

Well, it's different when you're doing digital work. Like people can literally just steal your work and your style and all kinds of things. So the NFT's, when I finally understood it, allowed me to really feel like I own my work. And the the the issue of provenance, because that's what it is, is such an important issue when it comes to artists, because you do want to be able to prove when you made this. When I was a little girl and I withdraw and pay, my mother would always tell me to sign and d

That way people know that it's yours. So now it's hard for me to create something and not mince it. Like I really have to sit there with the piece and be like, yo should I meant this? Should I just keep this to myself? Because I know that as soon as I meant this piece, it's going to be on the blockchain and it's going to say I created this piece on such and such day, so the provenance is already starting for that. That's not really something I can do with my physical work.

I can sign it. I can date it. But there's a real proof on this side. Video myself. Oh my God, I'm old. Wait. Unless I take myself that's even older. Yeah. Unless I video myself, unless I video myself actually creating the physical artwork. There's no real way to actually prove that this was created On this date, you know, by this person, but I, you know, by this date. But with with blockchain, I can do that. And I have. I have.

That's how you know you made it, though. That's how you know you made it. That's how you know you made it.

I feel better about sharing my work. For example, on Instagram I had I have an impostor account. There's an account that is pretending to be me with a different name, and they have like, artwork. That's what I said, yo, that's what I said. I was like, yeah, I gotta be doing something right. So the thing about that, that, that imposter thing is that they're able to screenshot my work and they're able to maybe, I don't know how, but they're able to download.

The link and and get the thing, you can't do that with the digital collectibles on Instagram. So when I share my digital collectible on Instagram, it's not like before. Like someone can screenshot it and then post it. If you screenshot it, it's going to say digital collectible on it. And when someone goes to tap it on your fake account or something, they're going to see that it's not really yours, that it's a screenshot, that you didn't actually post this. So that's like the first thing already

The second thing is that now I really own it and Instagram does not.

Because before if I post this, yo if I posted something on Instagram and Instagram decided to fuck me over. Excuse my language, but that's exactly what they do. I had to say that one and like shut down my account. I've lost if I didn't back it up on my computer or something, all the work that I've posted, they could they could delete my whole thing right now, but every digital collectible that I posted is still in my wallet.

They can do nothing that's mine. Like that's the thing. This is mine now like.

Got something that Ohh and the royalties. Royalties are another thing. You know, artists who are in the entertainment industry, they're lucky enough.

And I say that loosely because they are exploited as hell. They're lucky enough to receive some type of royalty for their work if it gets, you know, picked up and stuff like that. But physical. But visual artists have never had that unless they're making films. So this is the first time that artists are able to see their work get flipped. And you get residuals from that because I've had people by my work, like first of all, I have people in my work. I don't know who they are. I've never had a pr

Now at a place where you leave it and you don't know who bought it, but what I can say is that if they decide to go somewhere else and sell my my painting that they buffer 800 bucks and they decide to sell it now for $20,000, which has happened. I'm not going to see a penny of that. I'm never going to know about it. If they're in some other country, they took that piece with them somewhere, I'm never ever going to know. That's why this whole discussion about about royalties and.

And taking creator royalties and and people like not wanting to that's that's the whole reason why we got into this space in the 1st place. I didn't get into this space to buy apes. I didn't get into the space to invest in crypto. I got into this space to give art a space to breathe here and to and to be able to create and to be able to create without having to worry about the middleman that's going to sell my art because galleries will take.

50% of the work that you're selling with them because they have a black book with all these clients that are going to buy your work. But now with this new thing, not only do I not have to pay the gallery 50%, but anybody that flips my work, I'm going to see that again. So that's why that's so many of the reasons why I got into this and why it's important for artists especially like graffiti artists, it's so important for them to start minting their work on the blockchain, like if they do a wall,

And men say before they, you know, before they buff it out and that should only forever. And they don't have that timestamp from when you did it. Now, you got to be a little careful with that with because of law enforcement. But there are ways around everything, especially if we continue to be decentralized.

You know I'll I'll I'm loving this space one ride his why I want you to come and sit with us. You know I met you months back and I was so impressed with what you were saying and doing and you're a true artist. You know you're you're really a person that comes from the traditional art world. Not only that come comes from the New York City art world. You know like graffiti. You mentioned all these things you do. And I'm so impressed because that was my upbringing, seeing all these things around me

Yes, that was our that was our Art Museum, right? That was that was what we used to go out, and we used to see that, and they used. That is because it is art. It's a day. It's the most danger. It's one of the most dangerous art films. And if art is not dangerous and it's boring and you shouldn't even be looking at enough for nothing.

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Yeah, no, that's OK. I don't know if he said authenticate soon, but I I do want him to ask his last question and then we'll go to Gabe.

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I don't know. They haven't seen their work.

People that have never even been to people that have never been to art school you heard never been to art school and that traditional. Let me tell you something never traditional traditional artism myth. If someone it's only sees the art, the traditional OK and like the Cambia tanto cannot.

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And I'm leaving right here in the city. But that's right. Tonight we have that event. One ride you.

In the Lower East Side and you know, we we try to meet there every other Thursday thanks to knowledge and it's just really nice.

I you know what, I I always see the technology. That's right. So I always see that he does this. I think he's in the I'm far away from my phone. I walk around when I talk, so I never look at the screen, but I saw that he was in the room. So what's up if you're still there?

I always wish I can go to those things like I want to go to the one today, but it's in a bar and I don't drink because I had a drinking problem.

A lot of for a long time in my life where alcohol, I was an alcoholic. And when you're an alcoholic, you're always in recovery and places like that are really triggering, especially around this time because my sober day from alcohol was December 10th, which just passed. It's been three years now, and those places can be not triggering, but they can be tempting as fuck. Excuse my language again, they could be tempting because it's like an ongoing struggle. And if you've never.

Had to stop drinking. It's one of the hardest things. Like it's it's easier to like kick a hard drug habit than alcohol because I can go anywhere and get alcohol. There's commercials of alcohol on TV. When I first stopped drinking, Oh my God, it was so hard. It was if it wasn't, if it wasn't because I went to AA for a couple of months. I didn't keep going because.

It doesn't really align with my with what I see about the world, how how things are done, but it's a great supportive group for when you do want to stop drinking.

So it was it when I when I see that these events are being done in those places, I want to go so bad. But then it's just like, you know, it's harder for me. But whenever people do events like in in like those like spaces that are not like that, that have alcohol, it's fine. But like specifically bars and stuff like that. I I had a I had an exhibition of 1 one person show and it was in a bar and I only went once and it was to hang the paintings and I never went back until I until I had to go pick

Nine, good job. But yeah, I think you also mentioned that last time we spoke. So you're right. Yeah, we're we're just gonna there. There will be other events and we'll definitely pick up the venues as well.

You know what I was thinking?

I mean, zoom in though. Like you guys can zoom me. If you ever do something like that and you want me like there, you know, like it's the 21st century.

Look, I was thinking because I I'm also for education. I feel that the way we push forward is by helping the youth that's coming in now, those young adults.

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Oh my God, I would love that, yo, let me tell you.

I've been trying to do something like that.