Good evening, family and friends. Good evening. Good evening.

Take a moment if you would please, and tweet the room out.

I'm coming from coming to you remotely. I am not in my normal place.

Was teaching out of town in my hometown today, so I literally just wrapped up like 15 minutes ago and I am.

Reporting to you live from the parking lot at Burlington Coat Factory.

But I am excited for our conversation today. My timeline has been lit up today. Today has been a very busy day in blockchain tech Twitter, so I hope to have a great conversation with you all about what you would like to see more of or less of in this space. So if you would please take a moment and tweet it out, pop it in some group chats, pop it into your favorite folks, and invite them into the conversation. We'll be back in 2 seconds.

Welcome fam. Welcome fam. Take a moment to tweet out the space. Good to see you. Welcome.

On ADB I see through. Always good to see you as well. Welcome non fungible Daniel. Good to see you for making faces in the comments today.

Alright, I am done with.

Getting it out to my various avenues. Again, welcome to Anaji you presents the comments. I'm boss 2.0.

Reporting remote I am not and my normal comfortable place at my dining room table. This time I am instead in the driver seat of my car at Burlington Coat factory in my hometown. From teaching today, there was a small little bit in my mind that was thinking, hey, I might.

Might postpone this one. I might cancel it. Let's see. But I had a epiphany from the conversations that have been going on in the past few weeks in the space and I would love to hear from.

The people that number one are.

Closest in my own circle about what you would like to see more of and less of in this blockchain text space in order to not only deliver that to you, but help foster that change in the network that we have and the networks that we are slowly becoming a part of as our own network growth bigger and as our space itself grows bigger. So I invite you guys up to.

Come and join the conversation if you would like to listen. That's fine too, if you would like to.

Uh.

Anticipate that's fine as well. We have on RGB up on stage y'all I'm.

Flow with my brain. Can you hear me? Be can you hear me?

OK, I got a heart. OK, awesome. Awesome. And the clap, OK, good. I just was jumping right in because I was coming right in. But be free to pop in when whenever you like. But yes, like I said earlier, I would love to know. What would you like to see more of in the space? What's working? What's not working?

What type of what type of information would you like to see disseminated more? What type of information would you like to see less of? What are we distracted by?

What? You know, what kind of what things can we focus on? And I a lot of times I see here in our space that everything is very triangulated. Everyone is has the megaphone on.

Their own personal whatever, whether that be the DJ stuff or the informational educational stuff, or whether that's the.

You know, this space needs this or this space is stupid if you're moving in that direction. And so I think a lot of times that keeps us from.

Finding commonality in something to all move forward, not only together, or information to be able to be shared quickly so that people can take the best advantage of it. I myself would love to see more people.

On more of a focus, what whatever that focus may be, but maybe finding a group of people to help amplify what that focus is so that the reach can go further.

And we and the information can go outside of the networks into into others to pull them into that same network. I would love to see much, much more of things like that.

Yo-yo.

We're getting another request up. Feel free to pop in the conversation anytime you like.

Hey, hey, good to be here. Shot to you bosses, yes?

Good evening, good evening.

I'm excited for the convo today.

What is it? Is there something that you would like to see more of once you start right there on IGB? It's something you want to see more of.

I personally just, you know, coming into this space and you know, the top of the year and stuff, I want to see more innovation. But you know, I, I know that the motivation for innovation in this space came from a lot of dollar signs, right? So as the market was bullish and things were looking great for everybody, people were innovating left and right, trying to do different things to, you know, attract eyes. But you know, those them attracting the eyes, they were coming up with cool, different t

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And I think that.

But I think that sound.

Just, you know, with the with the bear market, things have been slowing down and and I know people are still innovating, they're still building on their back ends, but I just want to see it, you know, I'm, I'm just, I'm selfish like that. I want to see what people are building on, you know, I'm a nerd like that. I just want to see what people are making, you know? So yeah, I just get excited about that type of stuff. So I know people are in, in the caves and, you know, got their stuff growing an

At least that's my optimism. I hope. I hope people are building. They're not just like completely left of space and they're over it. I don't know.

What from?

From what I see on the timeline I I agree. I do think there are. There are a lot of people building very much. I would love to see more people doing, doing more work, but.

There there seems to be.

I don't know. I haven't. I don't think I've verbalized it before. I was gonna take the time before the space today to to try to put some of that that in in words, but.

I think that there's building, there is a little bit of a I'm gonna hold this back until it's time to push it forward, but I also think there's a lot of building individually.

And.

What I'm starting to learn and what I'm starting to see is that.

Much more can be done with a group or with a network. I think the first thing that comes to mind is that quote. If you want to go fast, go alone, but if you want to go far, go together.

That's something that kind of pops into into my head. Daniel, you were you were. Next up. Feel free. What's your perspective? What would you like to see more of here in the blockchain tech space?

Yo every day I I'll be spying on you as conversations in in our najis and just different places and I'd be like yo you people are are smart like the brians you know there must be something about being named Brian that makes you smart and or and I see through like the the the art that you guys do is amazing and I think that just the culmination.

Of like being around people that are small and they're excellent things. It kind of drives you to to make sure your projects have a certain level of excellence so they can stand next to you guys like so you can be a part of a.

A community that's doing the exact things, so I just there's not anything I want to see more of, but I just like the community that encourages other people to be, you know, creative and just do excellent things.

I definitely, I definitely get that. Thank you. Thank you for that, Daniel. But I mean, you know, it's.

We see you doing doing great work as well, you know, always, always bettering yourself, always taking every opportunity to ask questions and learn and that's something that.

Kind of speaks to that that that group dynamic that I just mentioned being able to go far together is that.

Is that something that we see a lot, a lot of and in our space is is pulling people together to be able to amplify ourselves to go further or is it more beneficial to?

Have our own individual focus and individual goals and push that. I see through. We see you up on stage. Would you like to give your perspective?

Yeah, I know one of the main things that I would really like to see. I commented not that long ago about wanting to see more fact based discussion instead of like a lot of people just throwing opinions left and right, but more to that point.

I think I would like to see spaces start to shift away from being like a a pulpit for people.

In a way.

Like at least these kind of spaces that we have are very conversational. The people in this space are talking.

I can get into that, but I really can't get into just listening to people talk at me forever, never about how great they are and how great their friends are. And they bring their great friend up, and their great friend is really great too. And then they bring their great friend up and they're all really great, right? And so we just listen to how great everybody is and everything's great.

Yeah, I don't get anything from that. So, like, if, you know, we have connections with people in the space that we we follow, we may never have like, daily conversations with people that we look at as subject matter experts, bringing them in to talk about the subject that they're an expert on, educate people in the conversation, drop facts through the conversation. We don't need to hear that whole bio about how great they are and how great the web three is for them and all this other bullshit.

Like, use the time that you have an audience to actually teach people something.

Was like what is the point?

So what I'm hearing is, is we're looking for spaces to become much more informational and much more laser focused on.

Sharing and giving information rather than.

Ego pumping?

If if it's labeled as an educational space, like if it's just for fun and people just they're talk music or let all blow off steam, you know that it is what it is. But you know, you'll have a space that's labeled, you know, security 101 and you go in and it's just these, you know, you were in one and it was the person you kind of inadvertently was kind of, you know, calling out a previous conversation. Just that was kind of the same vibe, like just having to listen to people talk about how great

Experiences in the space and their background.

And give like canned answers that everybody's heard before on this topic. Like you don't really walk away from a lot of those spaces where anything of value versus like having somebody say, OK, you know how you wander into a thread and the thread has like 10 tips and the tips are really cool that you haven't seen before? You bookmark that thread, have somebody come in and like, with that thought process, what would a 10 things I can give these people by the time we leave this conversation, they

Things sure, but like content?

Very much, very much. Thank you so much. I see through for you know providing a a perspective on what you would like to see more of in the space. Before we go over to Najeeb, I wanna take a moment to welcome everyone. This is Onaji presents the comments. I'm boss. Two point O. Our conversation today is giving kind of a open foreign forum giving family and friends here in the blockchain tech space opportunity to come and share about.

What you would like to see more of or less of here in this blockchain tech space, given that we're in this market that we're in right now. We, we see so many people that are that are building, that are innovating, sorry for that motorcycle y'all that are building, that are innovating, that are planning to do really super great and awesome things. And now that we have that time and that energy to devote to making this blockchain tech space what it is.

That we want to see. What is it that we want to see? What is it that we want to focus on? So, saying hello to everyone. We got some requests. Hello to crypto Miyagi. Hello to black crypto night. Good to see the two of you, kid. Etherium fam. What's going on? How are you? Good to see you in a space. Welcome to the comments. Hello also to Doctor Pine, Ocean state. We see you and Micah Jefferson. What's up?

What's up? Glad to have you guys in, so feel free pop up to grab the mic and take an opportunity to share. Right now we're talking about what we would like to see more of in the space. So Miyagi, we can have you up first. You are very, very prevalent here in the space. I would love to hear what what your perspective is about, what you want to see more of.

Yo GMGM, uh, shout out to you boss for house. Any spaces? I love the conversation.

Uh, now?

I don't know, man. Like I'm. I'm kind of torn on this one, to be honest. Right? Because.

At the same time, there's a lot more that I want to see in this space.

But I know we're not ready to see it just yet. So, like, it's a bittersweet feeling for me because.

There's a lot of stuff that I feel we could really benefit from right now, but because of the immaturity of the people in this space it would be overlooked and not taken seriously. So unfortunately it would have been wasted and could have been better presented at a different time. So it what I really would like to see more of, I guess to that point, is getting people caught up more and what that looks like is.

Kind of. I was thinking about what you were saying last time as far as people need to have the ability to.

And not to be rude, but be the janitors and be the the the consumers of this space. So I feel like we just need to show people how to safely be consumers, how to safely just be where they want to be as opposed to.

Ohh, you have to build this immediately. You have to own this immediately kind of thing.

I would like to see less of everything to be real and more education.

Or less of everything that's that's that's that's a big ask.

That that just say that it that is it's not possible but we got so many people that are I said earlier that are so triangulated like it's you know what what would it take to potentially.

Bring some of that triangulation in and finding a better focus on not to be so sorry that we that I crossed over you earlier. We'll go to you and then black crypto night will give you your opportunity to share with us as well. So on RGB.

Ohh, are we going to go to? We can go to clip crypt over.

OK, black kryptonite. Welcome. Welcome to the comments. Feel free. What what would like to see more or less of in the space?

Hello boss, glad to be here. Thank you for having me. I honestly like like you guys have already kind of touched on it a little bit. Like there's a lot of education that's not happening in this space. And I know that a lot of people that are on boarding and are on boarding and looking at NFT's to start off with and then they're kind of just stopping there and then it's just like what's the next NFT. And The thing is that they're coming into this space not really about the technology, not really

And it's usually statistically not fast money, but they think it is. And then they get burned enough times where they don't have the money and then they're out. But like, there's so many things that can be done with this technology that, you know, like we all get was just saying, like, people just aren't ready for it yet. And like, even like.

Again like you were saying just because of where we are right now and and and what this market looks like right now like this is not this is again this is not fast money and this is all about like being present in the space and still you know doing things in the space whatever kind of things that you do. Like I'm not even really big big on NFT's like I honestly I couldn't tell you the last time I I mentioned minted in NFT and that's just because like the market is is crazy slow right now it's cr

I've been spending a lot of my excess just putting, putting bets into things that I think are going to do well once things start to pick up again. And like a lot of times there's people are shouting web three, but they only know about NFT's. And you know, I'm big on my crypto. So like education is definitely something I've always been out here saying I want to be able to, I want to be able to share the people, but at the same time I want to see that more. And it's a lot. It's a lot of.

You know, I like sorry for lack of a better word right now. I I apologize for the language, but a bit of a circle jerk in some of these NFT spaces and it's just like everybody's patting each other on the back and doing whatever, but like nobody's really learning anything.

Ohh that's that's that's a good one. That's that's a, it's it's wild. But that's that's a good imagery because it's kind of like I see they were saying, you know you go in some spaces and they're a great person and they only bring up their their friend, that's another great person and they continue to just talk about the greatness, which is great, but what what what are you delivering from from that what value are are you giving pop? What pops into my brain first is our tweets that we get from.

Me argue about like if you want, you know, if you want to make a difference in this space, you have to add, you have to bring some type of value to it. Otherwise you're just consuming and taking and taking and taking and taking and not not giving anything back to potentially make your experience better or make someone else's experience better or not. TB, go ahead.

Absolutely, yeah. Big shout out to the space. You know, we've had a lot of these conversations, you know, in our little group chats and things like that, but.

So one of my third parties that's not in this space at all, but that's, you know, lives in the in the house with me always listens to the Onaji youth and they're like.

Kind of on the point with with all you guys are talking about is that, oh, no, actually, you even is a space that has kind of gotten away from like, the education aspect. And I was like, really? And they were like, yeah. And I'm like, really? And I'm like, yeah, like if it's a newbie coming into like, oh, now you the past couple weeks, like, they're leaving the space. Like, do we learn anything? What do we learn? Do we know anything more about the space web? Three NT is anything. And I think, yo

And we started with the newbie route and things like that, just trying to teach just the the basic simple concepts. And I think we've gotten away from that. I think the whole space is kind of gotten away from that. And that's what I would like to see come back is that, you know, we're just trying to teach people the basics. I know, like all of us here, it's been months and months. We feel like we've grown past like wallet security and like what blockchain is, what Bitcoin is, what etherium is an

But we're not even going back and revisiting those those old stages. So I mean just shout out to you by shout to the room. You guys are all amazing. We're going to get it. I just want to see more collaborative spaces and efforts like this. But you know to piggyback on, I see throughs point is that we kind of are having those spaces.

But the majority of Web 3 crypto spaces, they are they are moving in that direction. So that's what I want to see more.

Thank you thank thank you be it's and I I've I've noticed that as as as well just from the fact of the matter is and I think a lot of that happens just because there have this the space has gotten smaller there are less people here and a lot of the people who are left are people who you know the your network that you already know.

Or or people that you already kind of know what they know as well about what you're talking about and so it ends up changing. So it's you've got to always kind of have refocus each and every time about what it is that that you're giving in.

It's it. It would be interesting to to see more of that happen and continue.

In the in our own not to youth spaces with what we already do just continuing to like to find a better focus for that. But it was so much of it is.

A product of having a smaller pool of people here in the blockchain tech space. Miagi, go ahead.

Yeah, man, tell those people who want to learn something new to build your whole adapt. Then tell those people who want to learn something new to identify a rug before it's going to be a rug.

Why this? Why do people want to know everything and they don't even know shit like not to be rude? Everybody wants to learn everything, but still can't do the basics and can't keep themselves safe from getting hacked. Shut up.

Learn what you need to know first. Stop rushing. Stop feeling like you need to have all these weapons in the yo. You can literally know three things in this space and make a bag.

Do you need to know everything? That's the problem. You give people too many options, they don't know what to do, they get stuck and debilitated with choice with options, and nothing gets done.

Keep that shit, man. Keep that shit talking. No fuck no. They don't need to learn nothing new. Tell them if they can read and write a whole contract, then they can move on to the next step. Other than that, it's a waste of time.

Because just like we said, we're we're having to on board this these people over and over and why, like I, I've stayed at the basics. I don't tell anybody anything more than the basics because nobody needs even knows those.

So when people want to get to the advanced ship, we can talk after they know the basics, but until people are not getting hacked, bro.

Those people like they can go explore. It's not your job to do that. You're trying to do what you're trying to do.

Yeah, that's on them.

Always, always, always coming through with the, with as we say with the, with the bar, with something that.

Drops back down to the bottom line. Thank you for that, miagi. We appreciate you for that.

Crazy me. Go ahead.

Yes, yes. But piggybacking on that, there's only a select few people in this space that even know how to go in and read this contracts or even want to. Like not everybody in the space has that desire to even want to go. So which?

Right.

I would have to stop you respectfully and cut you off solo. Learn bro. I've been learning how to code myself. It's not hard. You can learn how to read and write a contract if you really want to learn how to read and write a contract. But do people want to learn or do they want shit spoon fed to them?

That's what I'm.

That's exactly what I'm.

Am I right? Can you hear me?

We got you right.

Oh, OK, OK alright, we have a hand from I see through and welcome up.

Welcome up, pawn. Good to see you here in the comments. I see through. Feel free. Go ahead.

Yeah, I was just going to say that.

I think that some of this really boils down to a lot of people kind of needing to move some of the dissonance aside and and just kind of acknowledging the space that we have actually been in for the past year.

And realizing that it's not necessarily what we thought it was. We even came into it. I think a lot of people haven't had that conversation with themselves yet and they haven't let go a lot of some of that stuff.

As it relates to education and space, I think it's important not to get too bogged down on the distraction of worrying about the people who aren't here for it or the people who can't keep up or or any of those things. I think maybe it's just a matter of creating a space for the people who are here for it, because there really isn't a space for those people to kind of come together in any collaborative way. It is very much a solo learning experience and I think.

But we keep hearing over and over again is that there are people who want to collaborate beyond their solo learning experience, like they've they've learned a certain amount and then they want to work with other people to do more. And it doesn't appear to be any place for that.

And as I've said in analogy, I think it's just a matter of maybe not somebody's taking the reins and just saying I'm the leader.

But even then, like even in taking my own responsibility and the way I talk about certain things, like today an RGB and I were having a conversation and I've been telling him to use this tool over and over and over again. But I haven't actually taken the time to like break down and try to give him any sort of instructions where to start, what to do when he gets there. So I actually took the time and typed that out. So some of it is maybe some of us who actually have knowledge just need to kind o

And give it to people, because there are people who want it, who are showing up, who are in these spaces, in these conversations, but don't really have an idea of what to do beyond that.

If you're talking boss, we don't hear you owe me.

And I'm talking. Yeah, I was talking. I was talking, talking.

And just going and I looked down and was like, Oh yeah, I'm muted. Beautiful.

Anyways, I'll go back. I was taking a moment to welcome 20 and Kane and she bites to the space. The hints that we have in this order we're going to go to pawn and then kit etherium or have you share your perspective and then I'll actually be will come to you. So pawn put feel free. Go ahead, take the mic.

Hey, what's the, what's the word? Everybody. So it's it's a pretty interesting topic when you look at the way the space is moved.

There's more buzzwords than actual impact, and I'm going to tell a quick story of a project that hopped on. I joined a project to do security audit to their contract.

First day I'm like, alright, let's get started. I get through the first round of my candy. Some more info from your dev as to why we're running 3 contracts for simple mint.

Our dev is 7 hours ahead of us. He's in Europe. I'm like, ohh yeah, we're fucked. I'm like, alright fine, you guys are going to launch a contract with someone who's asleep half the time that you guys are up.

And this is like, this is a few days to MIT. Cool, perfect. I'm like, what's your and I just started asking general questions. What are your marketing cycles looking like? What what are the metrics? Have you run like anything on the test net? Have you had people excited about, you know, teaser art? Nothing. I'm like, OK, so I'm going to put your project on a private server to use my gateway to protect you from, from rare, you know, sniping and then also do randomization.

Because I'm going to take out the VR, which is not necessary. They're like, alright, cool, that sounds good. I'm like, well.

This is interesting. Do you know how much?

How much traffic you're expecting, they're like, no, I'm like, Jesus Christ. So you have no idea what's going to happen on Monday. They're like, no, not even a clue. Not an estimate, I'll say. Alright, I went ahead and booked the pro server, put everything up there.

And I'm like Mint Day comes around, they get 5 minutes.

So my pro Surfer was a waste of money.

Uh, you know, switch over the contract to phases. That the whole point of searching into phases. And when I asked the dev, I'm like, hey dude, we gotta search this contract to phases because if we're able to do this, they can easily tell people, hey, we mince it out a face and that's better for marketing, right? But the devil is like, no, we can't make a change like that, you know, one day to meet. I'm like, I respect that, but I'll change it. So I did it in like 15 minutes. Reedited, had someon

Now they had like, a presale went great, but Pure Mints 5. And then they came up to me and they're like, hey, you know, what do you think went wrong? I'm like, everything. You don't have an actual product person. You don't have a product engineer. So I think what happens in this space is people come in and they say.

Well Paul, how do you get depth to work on stuff like my friend came up to me with a beautiful idea. Brilliant, absolutely marvelous. I broke it down as a different phases, broke down to the first level of what you would call an MVP or PRD. And I told them, hey, I have a an artist working on a quick schedule, quick for this game and I have a developer on hand to get started. He's like what I'm like, well it's pretty simple. If you have a person who can handle life cycle, people would actually wo

With you. So what happens is people come in here and just found stuff.

There's no actual product person. There's no one who understands what makes a product successful or or what what makes it fail, who understands point A to point B to Point C who understands how your your ability to read like.

Customer satisfaction.

Is is literally what's going to determine how the devs work goes, how the marketers job goes, how the artists job goes. There's never that person in each of these projects. So when I hopped in Web three I came in as a product person and I can write solidity to death, but.

I realized I don't need to do all that. Finding Debs is easy. I got a server with over 400 devs. They'll do anything I'd just love. Like they'll work with me anytime you like. You like you were saying, oh, I don't know, somebody said there's not a lot of people who can read contracts. That's false. We have a lot of people who can read contracts. It is easy. It's nothing.

We don't have people who can take a product from point A to point B. There's like 5 that I know, you know? So when people come in and talk education, they don't talk about the real stuff. It's just business acumen, which is, you know, understanding metrics, KPI's, you know, being able to to pick up something and say this is a product, this is a service.

Not just calling his utility. What is it?

For example, if you came to me and says, hey, if you're mint our NFT, you're out, you're done, I'm not minting it. If you came to me and says, hey, we're doing all this and this and I say, how do I get involved? He said, oh, by the way, you can go on our website and check it out. If I see that I have to admit something to, to get all that stuff that got me hyped, I'll get in. So you didn't sell to me, you gave me the opportunity to buy. It's it's a whole different, it's a whole different perspec

It's easy, you know. There's no point having conversation with them. I just troll.

Umm, OK, well, and I'll ask this question and then we're gonna go to Kidron because he's losing circulation right now and his hand. But I, I ask you if if you if you know that that's where the gap is wide troll that does that really help them close the gap and are you interested in doing so? If you would please ponder that for me before you respond. We're going to go to Kenneth Therium and then Ohh Najib and then we'll come back around to it.

Canadian feel free.

Hello? Yes, hear me.

Hi, good evening. Good evening.

Awesome. Yeah, this is a great conversation. I agree with everyone's opinions here because they all blend together so well.

Yeah, because like, I've I've been in this space since 2013 and I'm absolutely not like, touting that as anything because I have fumbled through this space since 2013. I have been scammed, you know, I've had, you know, wallet Drainings happened to me. I lost a bunch of Tron a long time ago, but like over the years, just learning through those mistakes and creating different wallets and practicing smart contracts and learning solidity and paper and all that. I definitely agree that. Like.

You do have to have a curiosity and a want to believe that you can earn that financial freedom and that you can earn that freedom to create your own art without label behind that. And you can earn, you know, finances on your own without having any sort of middleman. So I believe in all of that and then getting back into, you know, do how do we educate people on this? And I think there is a good basic structure out there for people to learn. There's a lot of information out there. There's a lot o

But at the same time, do they have a space to do that? You know, that's why I'm part of take up space. And their NFT project is because, you know, you can have, you know, all sorts of folks come in here. Yeah, yeah, learning how to code is really easy, but not for everybody. You know, I have dyslexia, so learning how to code it takes me a long time. And I have to use different font readers and all sorts of stuff. So, you know, saying that for you to learn code, it's really easy. You know, that's

In a way, they might not have access to computers, they might not be in an area where you know, it's all male dominated in the tech zone and when we can't get in you know, we're non binaries and such. So there is, there's a lot to learn here like in the space and there's a lot of people that want to teach. I'm happy for that, but I think people who need one to have a natural curiosity and two to have a space in a sandbox to play in where they can grow efficiently, you know. But yeah, Doctor Paul

I'd love to talk to you about security because I'm on the security team for my company and we do a lot of fun stuff with like Canaries and whatnot. So yeah, anytime, you know, talk securities, let me know.

Thank you so much for, for bringing that that point in on on top of all the things that there is, there is to learn, we have to think about accessibility and.

Bringing the opportunity to people, or at least providing them with the best way to learn it.

So that they can take to, so that they can take advantage of it. And as we know, learning is not, you know, everyone does not all learn the same way and so knowing that.

Part of what we can build and what we should be building and what we have to remember when we are building, is that we have to make that opportunity available for everyone. If we are truly interested in education and in teaching people or helping them develop skills to continue to stay in the space on RGB, please go ahead. Miyagi, we got you next.

Everybody was dropping gyms, dropping gyms, dropping gyms. I was listening. I forgot what I was going to say.

I'll I'll be back around though. I know, I remember.

All right. All right. I'm taking notes as well, but yeah, you feel free. Go ahead.

Yeah, you're gonna hate me, man.

We're not all gonna make it.

I'm just gonna be honest. We're not all going to make it. Once we realize that all this will be irrelevant, I'm just going to be honest with you. All of this will be irrelevant. And I mean that to say this, if you're in a place where you can't get a computer, realistically, no, you can't be a coder. But do you then want to write? Are you going to sit down and take the time to write? Are you going to put that time in somebody? Probably won't. So that's where I'm at with this is we're trying to bu

Sandboxes for people who don't even want to build a sandbox for themselves.

That's not my job. That's not our job.

That.

Again, some people are janitors, some people are seos, some people are employees.

Once we realize that, we will be OK.

Very caste system, yeah.

I mean, that's just the reality of what it is like. That's what. I don't know why people thought what three was going to solve the problems that were in web two. It doesn't. It just makes it easier for people to make money.

True. But but everyone, everyone deserves an opportunity to enter knowing they're absolutely like. Not everyone's going to make it. Like, some people can't get past the coding thing, that's for sure. But like, or some people just can't get past finance or learning how to manage their wallet or learning how to be secure and not get hacked. But everyone does deserve the opportunity to come to the table and try. But if you can't make it, yeah, that sucks. Like, you can't make it. You know, a lot of

And that's my thing is, like, time is also subjective. Like, you're easy for one person, is simple for another, it's hard for another. But they all can get it done. It can be done. So that's where I'm at. Like I I'm not really. Look, this is somebody coming, came from, no money came, came out the mud, like, but I didn't have the same opportunity as everybody else. But I didn't bitch about it either.

Because that doesn't help me. It doesn't give me any solutions. If I say, well, damn, can you build me a sandbox too? They're gonna be like, OK, what can you do? Once I build this sandbox, that's where I'm at. It's a value for value system in this world that we live in right now. It is value for value. If you want value, you give value. Simple as that. If it's not coding, then it's not coding. You better be a damn good community manager. If you're not a community manager, then you better be a da

Me?

Entries that you guys are asking for and saying they're out there. People don't wanna do it. Why? Because they have to do it for free at first. There's a little thing called sweat equity in this place that you do have to put in that people are not willing to do. They came in and saw, oh, money, money, money. Get me paid and then I'll work. What?

Yeah, real quick. Just just to add to that, that's the reason devs win, because we just like. I'm not even saying that in a elitist way. Devs are the first people who were put in any amount of work without actually expecting like pay. And like I can go on my server and I got people who are at Amazon making 750K a year and I say, yo, we got to build out this app. I need it in a month.

And we'll build it. They'll build like, you know, as long as it's a, we all build together, they're not going to think about money or the guy who is not even making anything. He'll join in too, right? Because that's just what takes him from point A to point B, right? I gave somebody a blueprint.

On marketing recently just outreach and I said, look, a lot of people are doing this wrong.

And the web two marketing strategy also works here. I mean if you if you come up with something and say, hey, we're doing a workouts or whatever, how about you have a newsletter, you know, how about you reach out to different people daily and your entire point of outreach is to find out their physical ailments and solve that problem before talking about your FT you know you're going to, you're going to win over so many people that your model would have a hybrid, you'd have the web two side, the

So I said fuck him. And so when they DM me now, I trolled him. And that's the whole point. It's free entertainment, because 3 minutes into a conversation with someone you can just tell you know if they're an actual NFT or if they're a person. And the people who are NFTS, they're not going to make it, you know?

I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk a little something in here.

I agree with Miagi's point that.

A lot that.

People want to come into this space and they don't want to work for free.

Because what we value in the space and what we tout the space as in my opinion is you come over here for the money.

And then I.

Take that to the opposite side and I give a counterpoint to what pawn says, and there are people out who are in the space who are not devs.

Who are winning as well because they do put in that work.

And so.

A lot of times I also do feel a lot of times in in the space that you know that it's that statement of, you know, the devils are at the top of it because they.

Do.

Is.

Not always the most correct, because there are. There are devs, there are community managers, there are discord moderators, there are content creators, there are all types of people who are willing to do these things.

And are willing to be on these scenes and work for free and help build and get that shit done.

But we don't.

Either a approach or we don't look at what they do as just as valuable as someone like a dev or as someone like a founder.

Ohh GB, go ahead.

For sure. For sure. I'll be real quick because I gotta dip out pretty soon shown to all y'all shout out to the room, but I would, you know some.

A little summation for all that is, I just want to see more collaboration in space, right? It'd be perfect to let everybody do what they're good at and that's what I try to do. I mean, I'm I'm a founder of a project, I'm the head of a project. I'm not a dev. The devs in the space know that I'm not a dev because I talked to them and I let them know, yo, I'm not a dev. What can you teach me? But.

What I try to do is make sure everybody's working on the things they want to work on. I'm I'm trying to foster people strengths in this space. If you're good at doing this, you're good at, you know, running the medium block, killing that, do that, kill that. That's that's what I want you to do. If you're good at being a community manager, do that, kill that. If you want to do the UX, UI design, do that, kill it. If you want to do graphic design, do that, kill it. It's cool. But there are a ton o

Especially with me, you know, Nazi camp, we, we building something special from the ground up and we're putting in a lot of sweat equity and there isn't a whole lot of capital and stuff right now. But you know, I think something amazing is going to happen going forward. You know, I, you know, we could say we're not going to make it, but I think everybody would not use going to make it because I I'm, hey, they're going to have to remove me with a wheelbarrow out here before, before she goes anywh

At this point, the devs are super important. The devs are super important. Yuga Labs knows that, right? Yuga Labs couldn't afford to even entertain hiring a developer before they dropped their their their land, right? They couldn't afford to actually be like, hey, we need a dev to make sure we get this. This land dropped right? Because at that point they're so big. Who can they trust, right? Who can they trust? We're hearing left and right people are hiring devs all over the country and they're

I'm doing stuff right like.

Devil are super important, but.

It would be best if we build with those debts from the ground up in the beginning, because after products built and stuff, you can't go back to the dev and be like, hey, can you help me now? I know you're reaching out beforehand, but you know, I was kind of stubborn and didn't want to really listen to you. I thought I could do it on my own now. The Devil's going to be like, yeah, cool, but it's going to be 5,000,000 to hire me to fix your problems and the devs know that and that's that's dope on

I don't know. I just want to see more collaboration. Let the dead be the devs like the everybody, be everybody. And we we we gonna make it if we work together. But that's that's nothing new that's been since the beginning of.

Thank, thank you B thank you for that. Thank you for your perspective and giving that that that summation Miyagi. Please feel free. Go ahead.

No, I won't try to love me because now I'm playing. Look, I I I'm not saying I don't want people to make it.

What I'm saying is the system is already set up for people to not make it. It's already set up that way, right? So we have to understand it that way and not think of we're all going to make it, but how do I make it?

Literally, once people answer the how.

It doesn't become hard anymore because now you have a a revenue stream. You just have to figure out how to. You just got to figure out how to monetize it. Literally. That's the only answer or the only question is how?

Because there's so much money, yo, a crypto punk just sold for 3300 E What the fuck are you telling me they're $4 million?

Right. There's so much money in this space to be gotten. Are you figuring out every way to make it right? Are you turning over every stone? Yo, nobody was doing researching and blog writing. When I came into this space. I I dubbed myself A blog writer in the in a blog writer.

Now I see a whole bunch of people blog writing, right? Nobody was I, and I can guarantee that nobody was doing this in that way. I created a lane.

That's what you have to do. You have to create a way so that way the others can come. So when kid eat therium is saying I'm dyslexic then now because I don't think like you. So I'm not thinking about that right now. I will. You have to figure out how can I teach individuals who learn like me.

What type of group can I create to slow things down for people? You see how it then still turns into a personal responsibility thing, like it's not on the project founder, because clearly the project founders don't care about what the fuck we got going on.

So you as the individual have to take it upon yourself in this moment to create whatever it is you want to see, cause they're not gonna do it for us. Knock knock. They haven't done it since we got here. I'm talking hundreds of years ago.

So again, why would you expect this shit to be that easy for you here?

Gotta think way different. We have to rewire our brains.

To really want to really want to eat in this space, but to eat, you gotta put the footwork in, yo.

Like, you really have to put the footwork in. You can't wait. You gotta make a Rep web three resume. If you're good at talking, you're good at communicating with yo.

Man.

Alright, well again we allowed the passion Maggie. We we thank you for for for sharing that with us. These are the conversations that we need to have. We have fidella who's who is in in the chat said. These are the the discussions our Community needs to have so we can see the forest and not just the trees. We thank you for giving us that that perspective because so often we are, we do see the just the trees because we are the tree. We're not zooming out a lot of times to see that and that.

Street has to contribute to that force in itself, so there is a personal responsibility to come forth and do that.

It's just a matter of.

Are there the people to show that? Other people?

Alright.

Are there people there to, you know, to continue to help push that forward and be that example because we do need that, that example, it's it. It takes a lot to be that, to be the person to create the lane. You've got to be have that, that courage. You have to have that fortitude to be able to step forward and place that path.

Uh, we also have, uh, Micah, we we see you right here with your hand kid there and we'll come to you right after because Michael, we did bring Michael up onto stage, so feel free, Michael, welcome to or not to you, the comments. We would love to hear your perspective on our conversation today.

4 teaspoons peace, everyone.

Probably my first space, I really don't jump on too much, but I'm appreciating conversations it's happening right now and hearing the different perspectives. And I guess one thing I think about in these conversations just observing, I've been mostly observer of lot of these projects is.

The reorientation of I guess what making it means because often I see it is just about making money or it's about, I guess capital ends. And while community building is part of it, like, I feel like that is probably the most important part. Like supporting each other, helping each other grow, helping, helping other people learn. Like there's ways where things that you do can replace the capital flows, like if you know how to grow something like food, then you can.

Transact through teaching someone how to code basically like so it doesn't always have to be allowed making the most capital in my opinion. So my perspective is like sort of reorienting what the end goal is. Is we going to make it mean we're going to make a lot of money or is we going to make it mean we all are going to make something. So that's all I got to say. I'm going to jump down.

Thank you so much for that perspective. That's that's definitely something that I I've had in in my brain and I've thought about this as well. Is there one?

Definition of success for us in the blockchain tech space or is it like life? You define what success is for yourself, and once you have reached whatever that is, and you're OK with that, is that OK? Must we reach for the next thing? Must we add on to our skills once we feel like we've achieved what we want to achieve?

So you say, OK, I love everybody, I just. I'm only here to make us think we can't say ohh, give me more education and then say. But I only want to have this much success that makes 0 fucking sense.

Why would you ask somebody to give you gold and you don't want gold?

Ohh.

Not you guys, but think about that. Why are you like yo? The information here is not just for people who want just like Pip, kibbles and bits per se like.

There is an opportunity or. Go ahead. I see through you. Go ahead, go ahead.

Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on just one second. Hold on one second, please. Katie Dariam had his hand up. We're going to him next. And then we'll go to ice either and continue our conversation. Thank you.

I did. I did. Thank you. I do have help here so I can get another space. Yeah. Yeah. I I don't know, like if what you were all saying was directed towards me, but what, the dyslexia thing? You don't necessarily need to slow down stuff. People were not slow. We just mix up our letters. So yeah, it's not like, and it's really hard to code. It just takes you a different way to do it. But anyways, when I talk about building tables, I just built tables for everyone. And it's not like we're focused on

Focus on like a single focal point when you're talking about that. But yeah, so that's a bit confusing. I know it's like you're directing that at me or like the entire entire, like, crowd or whatever, or web 3 space. But yeah, it's definitely like a space where everyone can just come in, you know, put their hand in. I do definitely agree with you. Like, if you're going to make it, you're going to work for it. Like I, like I said, I've been here since 2013, like most of my payment that I got for

Was honestly just like an NFT drawn of me and putting their collection and then that was good enough for me and I'm proud of that. And I defined that as success in this space. You know, I work for a web three company where I advise, you know, people on NFT's and our functionality and taxes, you know, definitely look out for taxes because there will be state and federal taxes coming around, you know? But yeah, depends on like what you measure success. Everyone saying, like they want to make all t

And you're getting the tokens along the way. These entities are badges of all the work that you put in throughout the time in the space, you know? Yeah. Thanks for having me up, everyone.

Thanks so much for your perspective, Kenneth Therium. I see through. Go ahead.

I just wanna, I guess caution or remind everybody to kind of keep in mind that we, we don't necessarily need to come to any of these spaces to find a perspective. We have our own perspectives we we can all appreciate and and come to our own conclusions about whatever moves we want to make in this space. So I say all that to say you know like.

Everybody's here for their own reasons, whatever opinions anybody has in any of these spaces.

I think I'm always representative of their perspective. That's how, that's where they are in this space. That's what their focus is. That's what that's how they see the space.

And I think that there's no invalid perspective.

Because there is room for everybody. There's room for people that are here for the money, for the art, just because they're curious, because they're nerds and they just want to see how the blockchain works. It's boom for everybody. For whatever reason, they there could be people here who just are curious and have no interest in success. They might be successful already and just maybe want to know what the hell is going on. So, I mean, you know, take take it over the grain of salt. I don't think

Even worry about feeling defensive or anything in this space, I just say that everybody just kind of express what they want, you know? Take what you want from it and, you know, keep them moving.

Thank you for that. I see through and I mean as as we wrap up our time and our space that's that's something to.

Continue to understand and and remember so often.

A lot of us are very much.

This this is what?

Our Community should be doing or this is what our people should should be doing and that that's wonderful. It's it's great to be that.

And I'll a lot of times there are people that.

Counterbalance that cause we do have to have that balance, but a lot of times.

You you find the people that.

Believe also what you believe and then you've got that network of people to push forward and and move and do amazingly great things while those people who.

Want to do other other things? Find their own people and they do those other other things that as as well. So just.

Amplifying what I see through, has said and.

Also saying that for myself.

Because I I am also kind of one of those people that's like, no, we should be doing this.

And.

It's been very difficult for me in my life to always understand, but everybody ain't too bright.

So I've got to a lot of times step back from it and continue to build in the way and do the things that I would do in the way that I'm doing them and.

Hopefully in time, find those same people who resonate with that and then.

Move forward with those people to continue to do awesome things.

So as we round out our space for the evening, just want to say hello to Tisha and our healing hub. Thanks for joining us. Good vibe as well. Theo beans, we see you welcome. Good to have you in the comments. We have been talking today about what we want to see more more of and less of in the spacing. The conversation has kind of continued to turn into what how we should be moving and what we should be moving toward and.

The things that that we should be focusing on in order to.

Keep us moving in the space and keep the space itself growing.

So I want to go ahead and start to wind down our space. We've been going for about an hour right now, so I want to give an opportunity just for any of our speakers to give us one final word. If there's anyone who would like to come up and give us one final word again as well, who has been listening and would like to give a, you know, a final summation of what's going on, go ahead and feel free to tap that request button and come up and share, but feel free ioffer the mic to Miyagi or I see throu

Since this evening.

No. All right. Well, that is totally fine. That is totally fine. I want to take my opportunity to say thank you so much for coming in and spending an hour of your evening with me here in the comments. Y'all could be doing a whole lot of other things that I know we had. We do have these conversations a lot and I do ask a lot of people to come up and share their perspectives. So I just want to say thank you for being open enough to do so. Whether or not, you know, you've got a perspective that eve

It is valued not only for other people in the space, but most definitely for me as a host, I ask these questions because these are the conversations that I want to have in the perspectives that I like to hear. So I want to say thank you so much. If you have shared your perspective today and you continue to share on, on the timeline, I look to so many of you to help continue to have me think each and every day. So again, I say thank you for that. We'll go ahead and wrap up our space. We usually h

But like I said earlier at the top, I am not in my in my normal space. I am hosting this remote right now. So we'll just take a moment to again say thank you so much. This has been or not to you Princess, the comments more less come express and indeed we came and expressed today very very, very much we came to express. So again thank you so much for spending time with me here in the Commons. I hope that.

Everyone has a wonderful morning, evening, afternoon and night and I will say goodnight from here.

Y'all, take care.