How you'll doing today? I hope you're in for a long time. I know that we all kind of get to know each other through the spaces and that's just great. I I love it. So love to kind of know what you've been up to if you reach any milestones or just what you up to, you know, anything is good.
New realm for myself personally, I I've been previously serving brands, but I decided to focus on serving craters, at least for the time being. I decided to create a series of Twitter space talks. My last Twitter space talk was more successful than than I anticipated. We had about 40 people show up, 10 speakers. We decided to kind of in that discussion to aware people who were participating, so I'm exploring the nfts for creators.
Now, I definitely know because you're really, really, um, you're such a kind of talented person with such a lot of information and you're very technical as well. And you know how to kind of get to the crowd and that's really important. So, you know, that's that's just something that I see in yourself and well done and you for going for the creators because, you know, the creators are essentially also a brand to remember, but you'll know that better than them. And you are somebody that can actual
Yeah, thanks very much. It's going well so far. I am sending the foundation from a technology perspective to make sure that people are able to receive nfts from me, kind of. For those who did not attend that previous tourist space, I mentioned every speaker who participated was eligible to receive a free FT by participating. So for myself, I'm exploring how to use NFT S to create engaging experiences to award people for their behaviour. I think that is.
Something not many people craters are thinking about, at least in the markets where things are uncertain. But I do think that building a community through NFT, through giveaways, through contest, through sweepstakes, by warning people for their behaviour is the type of mentality you need to kind of get people interested enough so that essentially at some point in the future you can convert that type of attention to a monetization. So I think that free ft for now is a strategy.
That I will be exploring and beyond that I think I definitely will plan to monetise my time and my my education through the efforts on Twitter. But I also decided to write a blog posts on the topic that I did. So for those who didn't attend, I was chatting about interactive 3D FTI think there's a lot of space to explore for creatives and creators and I also dropped the blog posts on that. So I'm happy to to spotlight that because I think that's an opportunity that.
A lot of creators don't realise they can do is that you know you not only can do artwork as NFT but you can also do every other type of medium including music videos, blog posts, in my case Twitter threads. You can really tokenise anything you want so that I think that is a great reminder for all creatives in space that you're not limited to one medium. There are many mediums you can explore and tokenise.
So tell me about this kind of 3D3D models in the interactive 3D models, because that's that's not something that we're used to. So interactive meaning like augmented reality or what are you, what is that referring to?
Ohh yes, great question. So interactive does not mean XR RVR, which are just terms to represent an alternative reality. It is a engaging or fun way to interact with 3D models. This is the then kind of the definition that I went for on my previous talk. It is a starting point towards a RVR nxr, but it's not there yet so.
A simple example is you can use your mobile phone, you can interact with a 3D model, but you don't need to wear a headset. You don't need to necessarily have that experience kind of augment your real experience. It's simply an addition to so it doesn't feel like an alternative reality yet, but it does feel interactive. And then once you have an interactive 3D model, and that model is fun, like I said, it's engaging. Now you can if you want to.
Go into the VR virtual reality space or AR augmented reality space. But it is a choice. Not every model doesn't has to be kind of going towards that end goal. It doesn't have to be. A simple example is if you look at a lot of games or even some meta versus they can be played on the laptop, they can be played on a desktop, the mobile phone and you don't need to buy let's say 102 hundred $500.00 headset to play them, but you are immersed in that space.
Yes, that's a simple analogy. So actually that's a great point to bring up. So Avatar is have taken off and NFD space for a simple reason that people started to put them as avatars on their PFP profile pictures. And avatars are essentially virtual characters. So if you have an avatar, if you have a virtual character that may give you the at least the insight to go into the 3D space. You can start from pixel art, you can start from 2D, you can shift to 3D and then you have this virtual character.
Um, but it's static, right? So a lot of 3D models for those kind of. If you think about the, the progression towards, let's say a RVR at first, it's a 3D model. It's not really interactive, it's not really fun. It's something you can look at it, it's something that maybe you can zoom into, you can pan around, but it's not something you can play with. It's not something you can control unless you make them more interactive. So maybe you add a game like control to the 3D avatar, maybe you make the
Maybe you are able to customise the colour of the avatar or customise the lighting on the scene. This is what I'm referring to when I say interactive, but it is a choice by developers and designers, so you do need to kind of make that conscious choice to go into that box.
There are actually a lot of people that that can, you know, benefit from this and how, how does it. Like for instance, what I'm kind of thinking about here in my mind is like building a Rubik's Cube where you can turn it and kind of, you know, turn into this angle and then, you know, turn this side and then, you know, just kind of play around with that 3D object, but just in a kind of like.
Yeah, that that's a great analogy. I'm glad Blue mentioned this. So Rubik's Cube is something that you need to solve. So there is a, an end goal in mind. You do need to turn it. So you do need to have a different view and experience. So one potential control you can offer there is to be able to allow, let's say, the 3D Rubik's Cube viewers or users to pan around, zoom in into that that element. But the other element that's important which is to be able to control the 3D model itself so that mayb
Elements of the Rubik's Cube and shifts to react to your behaviour. That is a great example of interactive 3D model. Most models can be viewed, but in order to make them interactive you need to have some behaviour driven by the user or driven by the platform, and it changes the dynamic of the 3D model. Hopefully that's a great and I'm actually glad to see more familiar spaces, familiar faces in the space. Rather we thought shmera here we've got.
And apart from photography, I do a lot of other things. I'm a Baker as well, I run a school as well, and I'm a mom. So yeah, I have a lot on my plate. So yeah, it's nice to see everyone like minded people from all over the world having similar interests, but we're we all are from different places, so it's really nice to meet everyone.
And you've been busy lately, you've, uh, you there's always some amazing photography that you've got showing there. So kind, why why don't you show us your work rather than just kind of post three of them up there so that we can just kind of look at them and justice, see what amazing stuff here you always starting to find an angle for.
Yeah, yeah. Actually I've like, I've recently been really active on Twitter. I've always had a Twitter account like since the past ten years or something, but I've always been active more on Instagram. So I have a lot of work and this is all work that I've done, all the photography work that I've done before. So I'm just now putting up things everyday so I can also interact with other photographers and I've.
I've also been in different spaces like lately, like in like on Twitter, there's this photographer, like his name is Diva. I think you know him. You've been with him in different spaces too. So I've been like on his space as well. And it's really fun interacting with different photographers because you get to learn so much from people you know. And it was nice. Yeah. So I I am now going to put up more work.
You really have these amazing stunning locations that that you bring such beautiful colour out of and it's like always these natural lighting that you just emphasise this this kind of like wonder of nature. You always give space to the sky and you know you really play with your your your your landscapes in such a kind and dynamic way and.
I think I've been, yes, thank you. I've actually been inspired by a lot of the masters of photographers like, you know, because in photography class we were taught a lot about like as I mentioned before when I spoke to you last week I think, or maybe a week before that, when I first spoke about how I've been inspired by all the pioneer in photography like Ansel Adams like because if you see his work, if it was all about landscapes and architecture.
Not architecture, just mostly just landscaped. He never used to photograph people. He was more into mountains and you know, just landscapes. So I take a lot of inspiration from him and from Henry Gauthier person. I loved playing with them, the shadows and perspectives and angles and all, and plus the city where I live in, there's a lot of nature and a lot of things to see so.
Whatever picture I take, I love photoshoping them and editing them heavily. I know, like for a lot of photographers, they don't like it. Everyone has their own views on it. But I don't think there's anything wrong because I feel like when you take a photograph or something, it belongs to you then and you have the power to create or to do something else with it. And you should. Unless it's not hurting anyone, you can definitely do it and you should do it. So if for example, I take a picture of ma
Maybe it's just like a mountainside and there's like like like a valley or some water flowing by and the sky is not that blue. So I love to edit it. Why not I edit it on Instagram or Photoshop or Lightroom? I love using these softwares. And then, you know, I make it more, more eye-catching. So yeah, that's what I like to do. Yeah, yeah.
But when it comes to St, sorry, sorry, when it comes to St photography, like it, when I do photojournalistic work, I make sure not to do any heavy editing. Like editing is just related to maybe the colour correction, not editing in a way that I manipulate that situation. So whatever you will get, you will receive. So it depends on what genre of photography that you're doing it on, you know?
But then again, like you say the if you go for colour correction and the amount of mood that you can create through colour correction is just absolutely amazing. And you did you know that type kind of like.
But you can still achieve that with filters and these type of things. And you know, but it's just tricky and it's not like always applicable. So why not do it in post production? It's really the same thing essentially, and emphasises the scene and you really get that that right. You bring this kind of peaceful tranquility, this awful nature, you know, all that type of like complicated scenes, you know that.
Yeah. And I think also because when, like, you know, we wake up like, I feel like nowadays whenever we wake up, we're always in this anxiety and there's so much stress around us. So it's nice to see some just.
Nice pictures, you know, just to like, make your day, like, start off the day in a nice way because there's so much stress nowadays, you know, with everything around us, so much going on. So it's it's just nice to sometimes it's to have a peaceful moment, take nice pictures and applaud them. It could maybe make someone's day. But like, you know, like speaking about manipulating pictures, you must have, like, you must know about this photographer, very famous.
National Geographic photographer Steve Mccurry. He was like, he takes beautiful photojournalistic pictures, like absolutely stunning from like. And he's been all over the world, from Afghanistan to Syria to Iraq to Pakistan to like everywhere where he could capture human, like just the human in people. And just to show that we all are the same, our cultures might be different, we might.
Belong to different places. By the end of the day we eat, breathe, live. We are the same people, and his photographs are beautiful, but he was a few years ago. He was actually caught manipulating pictures in which he edited some people doing like, the picture was like, it's beautiful, but you know something else. He he put in something else in the picture and it that that is not considered photojournalistic because you're manipulating it.
It's not like, for example, if I take fashion photography that you can manipulate as much as you can. I don't care because it's fashion photography and it's something that you have created. But when it comes to photojournalism, you really have to give in the core of what you're taking the picture.
They said documentary style. Good. Yeah, you're right. You have to pay homage to that documentary style of not intervening in nature or not intervening in the scene or, you know, being like the third, like the outside perspective and giving it true and honest.
Story like the. It's a real story exactly because the picture should speak to you and that is how a picture should feel for you, you know, so and and he has that power to do it each and every picture of his because I follow him on National Geographic. He is just fantastic. You can actually feel the picture, you know, and it's just brilliant. But I, I was a bit upset that he did that. But I guess, you know, end of the day we all are human and I guess we make mistakes.
How do I interpret our art? I feel it's very personal. Every everyone's aesthetic sense is very different. But I like, you might not like and no one else might not like, you know, and it might be very controversial for one person to the other. So I feel like art is very personal. At the same time, it always goes back to I feel like from where you're coming from, from your childhood, from whatever experiences you've had along the years.
Um, if you feel a certain way, you will express it in that way. Because I feel like it depends on my mood. If I'm feeling a bit low, I will take very morbid pictures and I would love that, because that that is how I will express it. And if I feel happy, I'm going to take very nice, sunny, colourful pictures because that's how I feel that that day. So for me, and like at times I don't feel like taking it, I won't take it, I won't have the stress of no, I have to take a picture, I have to do this.
I feel like it really depends on what you are feeling at that moment and the expression you want to send out to the world. And it should be personal. If it's not personal and it's not expressive, then that's not art, that's just commercialism. That's just something that you're pleasing another person. You should first please yourself. You should first make yourself feel comfortable to express the art.
I'll switch. That's a very interesting question, right? Deep question to ask. I don't know. You see, The thing is it depends from person to person at the same like the same thing that I said. How your how you think about life is how you interpret art. I have this. I have this teacher of mine. She was into Sufism. Do you know about Sufism?
People who are very religious in Islam and they they they they become Sufi, they become Saints and then they have a teacher who teaches them about life and basically their thinking is by the end of the day is that.
Everything around us is temporary, and it's not like technically real, but we have to be good with everyone because end of the day we all have to go somewhere else. Like if you're sitting with a group of 1020 people, that time period is just for a certain amount of time. It's going to end. But you and your intentions and your inner purity or whatever it is, that will remain forever, and that is something which will be counted on later.
I'll tell you yes, yes, uh, it basically so a teacher of mine who is a Sufi hurt like whose Angel? Sufism. Now she is into fine art photography and her work speaks like whatever she is in religion. And Sufism, her work speaks for itself. She incorporates Sufism in her work, in her fine art photography. And it's just beautiful the way she does it. In fact, I'll share you her work. Her work is fantastic.
I feel like spiritualism is different from person to person. I have friends who are very religious. I have friends who are atheists, but they are spiritual and their work, like, you know, it resonates in their work. Like how they perceive what they feel is spiritualistic to them and from where they find peace and trying equality. So it depends from person to person. However, you see spiritualism because also depends on how you've been growing up, like you're upbringing, whatever your parents hav
But at the same time, you know you have to unlearn to learn whatever you've been taught as a child, you should also grow up and think for yourself. Was that right or wrong? And then maybe you can have a different form of thinking later on, you know?
Yeah. But that's it. It's so amazing. This is why I enjoy being able to have what I like say, like this intercultural conversations because they are international community and we might as well, like, take the steps and really, like, just understand how art and culture is really combined, but how art can kind of unravel everything because we can kind of like.
Understand each other as an artist. So you're open to interpretation, you're open to understanding and you know, you know, being like absorbing this kind of vision or you know, this kind of, you know, memory or whatever it is that you know, the creativity kind of expressed.
Yes. And like, you know, Sufism is fantastic. If you want to read about it, you can you you don't have to be religious to read about it. It's just a beautiful concept and you can be as spiritual as you can. You don't have to be so religious. Just read about it. It really makes you think about life in a very different way. And yeah, I will share the work of my teacher who's into Sufism and who has that. Her work is fantastic, and I'll then tell you more about it.
I know, definitely, definitely. And yeah, I I just find this interesting because essentially I feel that we are all kind of leaving this kind of glimpse pinwheel. I'm gonna get to you right now to ask a question.
I don't know, you know, I don't know. Let's just say arguments like they can find the live, this little clip about you and they can listen to it. And that keeps this extra dimension to you as an artist. Because now there is also your philosophy, your spirituality, all these type of things that are creating a whole new kind of dynamic. Do you as an artist, it's not only your artwork anymore, there is so much more kind of coming into play. And you know, obviously there's vanity as well, but then t
Yeah, but exactly what I was trying to say is that it all depends on how you interpret it. You know, like, whatever my interpretation is, it might be like for for another hour, just it might be ugly, it might not be nice. But for me it would be something really good, like something that can influence me, can help me in the future, you know? So aesthetic sense of each and every artist is so different, and you might hate someone's work, but it might really help someone else who's going through som
So slow that. Tell me something first. Do you travel around a lot? Do you take photos of these stunning places that you go to all this time? Or actually, are you just leaving it for your mind to remember and that perspective is going to stay there, nobody else's or ever going to see those places besides you? Are you taking any photos or have you gotten the for like a camera at least?
Yeah, I think it is important to appreciate both with the eyes and with digital photography. I do take photos at the moment. My photos I would say would focus on landscape ultra wide shots. If that resonates with people here. Landscape being that it's horizontal type of photography and ultra wide meaning that I'm using the widest possible lens to capture the scene, I think that at least from my perspective represents the reality.
It's important to take moments to recognise beauty. I do find certain moments during the day are slightly favorable to that type of photography than others. For example, taking photographs like around the sunrise, sunset, time during the blue hour I'm yet to capture. I haven't done that yet, so I definitely would like to wake up earlier for that, but golden hour at least before sunset is one of my favorite.
It's important to capture as much as possible, and so while I have tried to do panoramic shots or even 360 shots, I don't think they're as convenient as an ultra wide shot with a smartphone, so I I prefer that. For the time being I I have thought about using DSLR or even mirrorless, something more, let's say pricier than a smartphone, but there's always the mental.
Question. Do I bring my, you know, bulky camera bag or not? Whereas with a mobile phone, the smartphone is just more convenient to carry. And so I find myself reaching for my smartphone more often, even in circumstances where I had both access to both. So I do think that creators, you know, should take time to recognise beauty, whatever that means for them. So yeah, if you have a smartphone, it's lying around, like, why not take a few photographs?
Yeah, Mike, the moments live on, you know, that's essentially what it's about. You know? You know that. And sometimes those moments can be so precious that they cannot only be precious to you, but to anybody else that kind of sees them and, like, resonates with them. So.
I'm doing good. Good to hear from you again. And so tell me, girls, so lately you've been sending sending me this love Power coin association kind of thing that you're doing as well, which seems a bit kind of comedy.
I'm nervous and to everyone who don't know me and I'm from Nigeria, I'm on yeah user it coloured an FDR piece and I I believe I'm probably going to evolve to something way bigger than this, but as some time I'm enjoying the process and I love creating. I'm trying on mute new stuffs and pushing myself to the limits even though I don't think I have any middle thread unless I'm dead.
About the park coin, I'll be frank with you, is like I've actually been following them for quite a while and and I've been kind of like following up what they have been doing. And I must be frank with you, they have been really, they're really supportive in the NFD space and what I'm talking about supportive, you know a lot of projects actually talk about probably whenever they make sales they give back.
The committee and probably something with the keep up to that. But ever since I've been watching them for the past few months, I think four months now they have sticked to every single promise they made and they have literally been putting smiles on artists face. Probably buying works at 180.5 and you know doing things just to to make the movement in NFT and Web three and they were NFT progress.
I kinda like found like they were about to quit poking and the IT market this as well you know from from the fact they haven't they have they have been able to keep up, keep to keep to their words. You know I think they they all deserved they deserve benefit of doubt that they could actually make a whole lot of difference is is not all about making your works look beautiful organised. It's about the impact that you make.
And they have done a whole lot of that so far man and well I am still learning more about them and so far I think I definitely believe that will be part of the whole love parking token and hopefully support other artists as well. And apart from that I I love them and guys you could probably shoot them some follow and I just probably joined their discord yesterday and got involved in the in the in the first love.
What goes on in that mind of yours for you to have these brilliant people that you're expressing these kind of like scary as people? How, how, how were you as a child? Were you the one always telling ghost stories or were you the one who's like, making everybody's scared about vampires and these type of things? Tell me about that. Tell me about the inspiration behind these characters that you're creating through.
It's only in the dark that you get to see the stars. You get to see who, who, what, what someone's really made of. You know, people get to show their true selves, and in the light, most actually like in the lights of you with Twitter and people pretending to be this and that. But when things goes dark, that's when you know someone's true nature.
I feel like it's a way for me, you know, to let the world know like that most times, darkness isn't all about the devil and think about it. Even the devil. The devil was once an Angel, you know. Have you ever asked yourself what really happened? I've know the Bible said love, but have you ever asked yourself what really happened? Wally really made him change. And.
But darkness still can be used and managed to move forward in life rather than being looked down. So does it. I love creating dark stars, creating collages, and I I feel like I have a whole lot of shit going through my head. Believe me man. Like my head is like.
Have booked over after like my head like crazy, you know? And hopefully someday I I quit all my works on my phone and hopefully someday if I am able to have a PC, you know, and all those kind of like big tools of people, I'm probably going to lend a whole lot. I believe that I'm probably going to create something that's probably going to shake the world. Hopefully someday.
But you already work in this amazing story universe where there's like Lycans, and, you know, tell me about like that mystery element as well to these, where are these people from? And if you would have a unique kind of setting, who do you think would populate that little, that little story of yours?
People who were never known, you know. And so if you take your time, you read most of these stories. Some of these stories I can't like way off from from the audience, but so I'm kind of like has to do with.
Someone probably who for example, the case of Frank Constantine, which was being, which is owned by Investopia Frank himself. He was just a good man, you know, he did good. But you know, people kind of like, you know, the same way the devil was once an Angel. People kind of like he. He thought bad, not really because he wants to, but.
And he came back, you know, and he started doing terrible things, you know, terrible when I'm in. Terrible. I mean terrible. Like really, really terrible things. And some people might call him demonic evil Stephanie. But the truth is is like.
He he wasn't really like that. He he was being made by he was being transformed to whatever he became by us, you know? So I think we we are we are all monsters, you know we create those monsters. And I don't believe, like I don't believe in God servers and stuff, but I believe that.
Even if they do, is this. I believe that we humans are the most scary monsters of all, you know, even though we pretend not to. So I just create stories and of about things that people might never have known and probably tell stories about them, you know? And I find it really fascinating as well.
So tell me about your fascination with these kind of characters, like where did it start? Was there a stage where you kind of developed this love for these type of characters or was it always with you? Have you ever like as a kid already had a fab have a fascination with these characters?
Ohh well I I would say since I was a kid and I think ohh that's it. When I had I was as a kid I was afraid of the of the dark. That's one thing out today for sure. And I was afraid of the actor until I had I always had scary nightmares which I really had to run from them. But.
Until sometime I was able to. I had one terrible nightmare, like one I could never forget. I had more when I was a kid. Like, really scary stuff. Really disturbing stuff, Stephanie stuff. But I don't know if it's okay I could share one with you. I could share one first dream, like I can't like.
Standing in hell. A lot of people say that they see themselves in hell standing and stuff, but this really assume myself in hell. And it's not like I was inside the fire, but believe me, the whole environment was really disturbing. It wasn't something. It was the wolves. It was gross. It was. I can't even find the right word to use to explain that. But, you know, staring at the kids, it's like a gate, long gate. And you're starting to look at the top to know where the gate probably.
Ended, but it's found. If it seems like the gates has no end, you know it keeps going out like you can't see where it ends and looking around you cause I saw like like you know the way Castle is, right, like Castle back in the days I saw brick like on the bricks on the walls. We are kind of like.
Very disturbing. Ohh God I grow some slimy stuff so I can't really explain them. But I was saying weird pet insects. Weird things coming off in the world were like it was so like dude, I think you might really puke. But to me I I didn't really puke. I found it really interesting and when I now looked beside me I found two weird creatures.
Wait till today. I think no one has ever drawn them at. I've never seen, I've never seen any art close to that. I've checked all of scary stories and I've never seen something close to that. And they were so little but.
Dude, I can't simply explain it, but I think someday I'll be able to try and draw them and we'll pick having this weird tools on their hands which dude even, like no one has invited. Those count like weird. Like old car, like Caveman Tugboat Willy.
Really messed up, you know, and I kind of like one, the one on the right, I think asked me well what I was looking for. I told them, I told him or her or eat out looking for my master. And he laughed and he it laughed, you know, and was telling me that it's it's not yet my time. And the other, like immediately the other, the other on the left, I think took a bow. Yes. And all of a sudden I felt like.
Billions, trillions. I can't count like people screaming gosh in their teeth like it was like so painful. It was like, Oh my God, it's like, it's like the worst experience in the world would ever like to experience. And I felt people's tears. I felt people who going through.
Something way more than pain, you know? And at that point I felt really creeped out. But the gates started opening and I think as his, I saw his leg, you know, I don't want to call his name, but I saw his leg and there were folks, red folks coming out from the gate. I saw his legs and it was like.
Like, you know, my son, you back and and all of a sudden I felt like I'm just trying to be fast, but I felt like the dream is kind of like skipped. And I found myself on top of it. Dragon, a real dragon. I could feel it, you know, it's not just a visual stuff, but I feel the dragon. I wasn't made and on the neck, and it was we were probably flying through the sky and it was looking into directly into my eyes. Like we had this kind of like weird.
No, no, no, no. That's amazing. I love knowing that. I love seeing that side. And you know, that's what, what I'm what I'm saying, you know, it gives that other dimension that to you as an artist through your artworks because now you've got this amazing to artificial intelligence like mid journey or whatever. And now we can express those subconscious images, those visions, those dreams. Now you have an opportunity.
What you thought about what was the inspiration behind it? So now you can recreate that dream and all that lot which you which is just amazing to just like being able to kind of like see such a glimpse of of the subconscious in itself.
Hey there, what's slow here? Have you considered creating a comic book or some sort of a comic feature of your characters? Because you're describing a story and that story can be, you know, it can be laid out that it has a beginning, middle, end. And I think that is, you know, a great.
Yeah. And really, um, you know, this, this, uh. It's so important for people to be able to identify with not only your art but also elements of yourself that that essentially you are also, you know, part of your artwork. And there is just as much a spiritual, spiritual element to you as what they're or to your artworks. And you know, and you, you kind of become the full picture. You become like the author.
Of, of the artworks in that sense. And you know, just like the author who creates these, these characters in his unique story, now you also have your characters that that are inspired from your dreams. And you know, even though it's it's it's it's kind of covers a more darker emotions. Like you say you are conquering your fears, you're walking in into the darkness and you know with kind of confidence and pride and I like that.
The kind of dream that you had, how did it make you feel afterwards? And the same thing that I was talking to you blue to black about that, how our past and how things that we've gone through, how that.
Relates to our art, which expressed like of how we express that later. So I'm just thinking about how you must have felt after the dream, like how you must have gone through like whatever emotions that you were going through afterwards. I hope you were OK because it would have freaked me out the dream.
This Dracula or this this person inside all of us, this devil inside all of us, but we don't show it to the world. And I feel like that is so true because there is a deep, deep down, like there is a side to all of us which we probably don't show to the world, but it is in us. And some people expressed that, some people don't and some people become serial killers. But sorry for that. I'm actually been watching a lot of serial killer shows.
I'm like thinking of and it's like really late. It's almost 1:00 AM and I'm freaking out. So I just wanted to tell Darvills that how proud I am of him for like saying that. Yeah, it's it's it's a very big thing to say.
But the shazra you also add your experience kind of seeing both the light and the dark within photography and in in people. So do kind of tell us about that experience of yours where you had the opportunity to still see femininity, yet there was darkness leaking in the background?
Um, I I really, I don't know. I feel like a lot of that has to do because I feel like I'm a very emotional person. So maybe my emotions, they they resonate with my work at times because sometimes whenever people see my work on Instagram, they're like, you know, what's up with you? Why are you so your work is so dark and morbid and not dark in the sense like how darboe's has presented his work, but dark in a different sense, in a more.
Like mine is more emotional. I mean, obviously his is also emotional, but he interprets it in his own way. I interpret it in my own way and I completely respect his way because of whatever he went through as a child and I respect him so much for that. So I just show my work in whatever ways.
Whatever feeling I go through, for example, if I've had a argument with a friend or something and that prolongs, or if I break up with a friend or something so that obviously that will show in my work. Because I don't like, if I'm upset, I'm not going to take pictures of how pretty the sky is or the mountains or whatever, I'm just going to take really sad pictures. And that is how I will feel. Probably. That would be like a therapy for me as well, you know, because art is a therapeutic session f
If you're feeling sad, you will express it, you will paint it, you will, you might get aggressive with your art as well and that's I think that's fine as long as you're not hurting anyone, and sometimes it's good to be a little aggressive in order to get that emotion out of yourself so that you can normalise yourself then later.
I just wanna say hi to the Cynthia there. Cici, you wanna introduce yourself there quickly? Are you're actually now going to be the cause? But, like, I've got a bit of a mix up here. I only wants to allow me now. One cause to the moment, but see yourself as a cause. Just a slow bus. Now move to speaker. So CC quickly, introduce yourself there.
One of my friends. Salo. Um, we've got a VAO heart. Um, our, our project. I'm getting ready to bring that up. Project PFP and all that in here. When I do, I'll, I'll kind of talk about that. I know there's people in here before I was, so I'm going to go ahead and let them speak a little bit, you know. Hi, everybody. Hi, Eddie. Hi. Hi. Hi, everybody. How are you? Hi. Blue to black. I have not talked to you.
I'm always good, you know, I'm just fascinated by these different dimensions that I'm getting at with all these artists, you know, just like seeing, you know, just the workings of their mind and the moods, everything, how it influences the artworks. And it's just like an amazing journey essentially, you know? And I just love that about the artist and, you know, having the opportunity to kind of explain that to me and make me kind of just see it through their perspective, even though it's impossi
Just kind of like just being, you know just going through durables there and he just explained how even through his childhood he it actually influenced him to really have like this urge to create these you know really reimagine it kind of grid like characters that that just basically came straight from his dreams and now he's like just memory memorising his dreams and the characters of his dreams and then he just like.
Go ahead. You were here, um, before I was. So go ahead and share. I'm, I'm still kind of prepping a little bit. I just got my other account in here, so go ahead and share it. You were here before I was, so I don't want to come in here and be stepping on toes like that. So please go ahead and and share. Um, I'm, you know, I I do have some things a little bit later that I need to go do.
But you know you guys were here before I was so I am not gonna come in and be like what I am. I'm still in the show yall. So please, please go ahead and take it and blue to black. It's probably not letting you accept or send out another.
Because everybody thought about it, thought about okay, so okay. So let's let's have the conversation here cause that literally was there to bring up conversation and strike up conversation of wood. What would you do okay? So you're looking at, you've got your family or loved one a friend. I mean somebody close to you, you know, wow, that's that's personal. You've got something that's going to be personal that's going to affect you.
This is before you decide. Nah, let me just tell you this story now. There, in Dante, allegories, inferno, there is this character that was caught trying to betray his own country and make a deal with the neighbouring country. And then basically what they did is they took him and his family and they locked him up on a tower right on top with his whole family. And then basically he.
Was busy starving to death with his family up there, you know, and they kind of like through the kid, they didn't even care about the guy anymore and they just left him there because of that betrayal being such a like sin, you know? And when they eventually got up to take the bodies away, he was already busy, like he was the last one to be alive and he likes like almost went cannibalism.
You know, just the story of Dante Lagori so inferno. I don't know if you know this story, but it's it's it's worth kind of investigating, but just imagine that agony of that person being trapped with your family and then blaming you for that betrayal okay now you can make your decision.
I would never. I wasn't gonna make a decision because I couldn't. There's no way I could make a decision. That's what I'm saying is sitting here, like laying it out like that. You've got like there's a conversation sitting here, like.
Don't want to be stranded on another pig with with you, because then you might eat me while the wolves are down there, you know? So I don't know what's gonna happen, but yeah, thank you darls. That was awesome. And.
Ohh yeah, I see. See you cannot pick your questions this time. But Douglas, I really appreciate the question. I will answer it. I I do know the space is recorded. I take it that you know it is an experiment, a thought experiment, and I'm happy to explore it. I do think that I would stay.
Just because I'm curious and I wanna see what happens, but I do encourage you to ask these questions not in a recording space, because there are a lot of people here who are not comfortable yet at least to explore these experiments. But there is an opportunity and and I think that the opportunity is not only to ask the question which is what you're doing, but also to award people for answering because it's a tough question you're asking. And so to have somebody even come up with an answer knowin
Yeah, now I think it's just fun. You know, you don't have to answer and that's the main thing. But yes, it is a recorded space. But then let's be the hitchcocks, you know, let's tackle, you know, the, the, the, you know, the aspects of censorship of the spaces, you know?
What, for instance, all the any control mechanisms in place for the censorship or the spices? You know, obviously somebody can report the report it or something like that. I know that's possible, but what is the dynamics of the censorship of the spices? Does anybody know about that?
I'm happy to give my perspective and then I'm happy to have others pitching as well. From what I've seen on most Web 2 platforms, being traditional companies that create social media platforms, they do have the right the permission to control content that has been user generated. That means taking down hide it. That means even banned account. So that is within the realm of Web 2 platforms, including Twitter.
However, one way to solve that is to give power to the creator, and that's where Web 3 platforms are now starting to emerge. So how can you create a new platform that does not have sensor ship kind of being controlled by the platform? That's where you give power to the crater and that's narrow. You are using newer technologies that we're not seeing on Twitter.
There's there's an Eddie Army and Addy and an alley. So we have kind of four names that are all kind of sounding similar. And then with your accent, I think it's all really sound and familiar. Cause when you said Addie earlier, I thought you were saying Eddie. So I think that's kind of what's going on. So it just happened.
No, we're good. And you were lucky enough that you invited some of the questions from Gorbals, because if Gorbals was asking me questions here tonight, I think it would be a completely different room. And.
That's not fair. I mean, this is a recorded space and I completely agree with slave over here that in the recording space we should not not be asked these questions because, like, I don't want people to think that I'm like some freak. I'm going to eat someone or something. But.
Exactly. I I'm a mom. I I love my child. So it's like, I don't want to be like a mean person or something. I mean, I love watching murder shows and stuff, but just the shows, not like doing it in reality, you know? Just the shows. I just enjoy the shows.
You know, maybe, maybe this is what maybe this is what Darvill's wanted. He wanted to start this commotion and art lounge. Oh my God, they just talk about this throughout the meeting, like meeting the artist.
Going to label, and that is exactly what I'm referring to in art. You know how art can be both light and dark, but it can still be expressed in such a kind of beautiful manner that you can still relate to it, you can still identify with it.
You can still see the motivation and inspiration behind it and that's the beauty of it and that's what I, what I kind of like appreciate with having dormouse here because it gives us that perspective on like what I what I was referring to earlier as anti art, you know? So yeah that's fine that's the important. But coming back to Addy, buy me, buy me, buy me. You wanted to add something to to to Darby's question.
Ohh sorry I did not hear his question but I think it is like a related something dark I think so this is not my zone so I'm not able to give any answer on this. But my zone is like positivity, happiness and joyness. So I can give you any related information.
So, Eddie, this is exactly what this was all about. Like, this was all about a question about, you know, the emotions and the mood. That kind of reef gets reflected through your artworks. So addy's not here anymore, so.
Yeah, my my other account. For some reason it went stupid. So I was like, well shit, since I gotta get back in here. Ohh, since I gotta get back in here, I figured I'd come back in as my veil Arts account.
So this is exactly what we were kind of talking about and I what I really wanted to get at is just the fact that, you know, there is such a big dimension to every odd and you know, even though you use artificial artificial intelligence or if you use drawing or whatever you use to kind of create the art.
Even if it's just a snapshot, you know or of whatever you know, then essentially there is, you know, also you as an artist involved and your moods, your subconscious really gets reflected somewhat like a fingerprint of you of your personality that kind of like carries over into the artwork. And that is kind of like what I what I was kind of referring to in in double s. And This is why it's so important to kind of.
I love too so like I think I I was tell you last time that I was a hospitalized in COVID and that time I was admit like 16 days and I I have like oxygen put on my face so so after that I feel that every time we taking tension depression and all taking all kind of.
You two things we think all day so that time I give up I I know that the life is not we think that's much long it will be goes anytime even I'm speaking with you it will go like one second. So why we waste on time on that So what you feel happiness and you can share something with some person they feel inspiring. They feel joyful. I think that's.
Important so I learn from that lesson and then I start my like art with that emotion to bring with everyone. So I created that emoji world I'll last time share with you, and I also share you again one second. So.
Ohh so there is childhood there in which child we happy. So all that things I putted that but this is one kind of happiness and another project I share with you that's I'm working with right now that is 1/3.
OK, so Mandala is a spiritual and ritual symbol symbol in Asia culture. It's can be understand to with two different way extremely as visual representation of the universe and internal as a guide of serval practice.
Yes, yes. But, uh, you have to, of course, remember that you were really having like a multicultural conversation here. So you really have to bring us into the culture and explain to us these like peculiarities about, you know, what you were talking about. And, you know, just like Micah's see what you're talking about and understand the culture.
Ohh within you if you going through with that a meditation or some spiritual way you can create within you and that will create Superman within you. So you will find God yourself. You don't go anywhere. You every person have God in self and we need to find out. So this is a the spiritual.
Well, actually not this kind of show, but I just created how it will show because it is a third eyes dimension. So you will get very powerful spiritual, you understand all the thing, what other person thinking and the aura, white kind of people, thoughts, process and emotion. So this is kind of you get super powers.
Ohh eyes mandala. So this is all about that spiritual journey. Actually I'm one thing I want to tell because my English is not that much so I am not gated you all the right way. But I tried to give some important things so hope I understand if you don't understand so you can just Google it so you will understand clearly actually what I trying to say guys.
You come across in your heart and you're you're just gonna showed us how your happiness kinda shines through in your heart and you're also using artificial intelligence to express this to kind of find way of you know getting all the you know like.
Like, go into your mind and ask yourself, how do you associate things? And then this is also your expression of, you know, doing it. And kind of like finding the artist within you and finding like that you know that emotion that you want to work with, that story that you want to work with, and how that essentially then becomes your kind of story.
It is not my story, OK? It is everyone's story when we when we stop seeing outside and when we start inside. So there is new hold. World is open so it is every one journey. You just need to start. When you start you will know.
You just need one guru in your life or if you know how then you just need to one. Like everyday you need to meditate at least one hours so you will know, understand, you feel that energy within you. I think this is your own experience everybody have.
I know what you're trying to say and I actually think that meditation in itself is kind of like the main shift of consciousness. What kind of created this kind of consciousness that we have today. Because we are, you know, essentially focusing on our breathing, which kind of makes us able to talk, makes us able to think, makes us able to, you know, do so much more than just live in the moment. You know, now we can think about we can we, we can ponder, we can, we can analyse, you know, we can.
Yeah. So, um, Ali, yeah. Why didn't you introduce yourself to us there quickly? Because it's quite an interesting now that now you can also give us a little bit of insight into also, you know, the stuff going on there at the moment and just like.
Yes, let me first talk about myself and this is my first experience in these spaces and it was actually a great experience even though it was short, about a 5 or 10 minutes, I enjoyed you and I enjoyed listening to you guys speaking well.
Yeah, I am actually, I as I said, I'm just a beginner and I only help my help my friend, one of my friends to design his magic and NFC. It's a new collection of his and it's about as I said, Magic NFD and they're beautiful and collections that they're dependent depended on magic things. Sorry, my English is not good, it's not too good. So I hope you'll understand what I say and I actually don't.
And have the text I wanted to talk about. It was a bit long and so it's as I said, it's about magic and ft is a collection. I have retweeted this thing and I don't have much sweets in my account. It's just a new account so you can find it easily. And my Internet connection is so weak I can't pin it or anything, so forgive me for that. You know, I don't know you've heard about this massage mean anything in my country.
Or not, and you probably have heard about it and but anyway, so I'm here to talk about this collection of my friend that I helped him to and make it or, I don't know, prepare it. If you let me, I will speak about it.
As I was saying, let me just talk about it until the page loads. Uh, it's about, uh, magic. And if there's a collection, it has 10 pieces for now, but when we made these tokens sold, we will share the rest of tokens as well. If you want to succeed in your metal worsfold and cryptocurrency, or if you are a great artist and you won't succeed in your NFT world, then you and you should have your own magical.
Just like the spiritual side of art, you know, which is an interesting aspect, you know you, if you consider for a long time in the East in history, most artists only were able to really express through commissioned artworks. So and those commissioned artworks would be either commissioned artworks from, you know, this nobleman or something like that, that wants you to really like, paint him and his family, you know, or whatever he's proud of. Or it would be the church.
Kind of communication, commissioning for artworks to be drawn, you know, and specific places. So, you know, and there was a lot of rules in terms of censorship of the odds and, you know, like the flower, like, yeah, that leaf coming in and all that type of things. And, you know, shame really playing a big part in like the history of the odds. And it is nice to kind of get to that stage in society where shame is playing less of a role and, you know, we as artists.
We really know when something is, you know, but, you know, pornographic, pornographic or erotic or whether it's sensual or whether it's just femininity, you know, we have that understanding and we know how to close.
Our own art in our own kind of censorship laws, but essentially we have more freedom now than we've ever had before, and it is really still important to understand that it is still a responsibility and that the media essentially is a big responsibility.
Yes, I agree with you on that, that as an artist, um, you do think that way. But I also feel like it's really important to have boundaries as well, because if you don't have boundaries you might hurt someone by something that you would do unintentionally maybe, but at the same time it like you need to the thing you said about responsibility having the responsibility as well in order to be a mature artist that how do you express it?
Yes, I I agree with you because I feel like Instagram is a lot, uh, has a lot of policies which are probably more strict. Like they're strict than Twitter, I think. Because on Instagram, I don't think you can say as much as you can on Twitter.
No, no. I wanted to say something from the beginning, but I just got couldn't buy. I I just didn't want to leave without saying bye bye because I had. I have to, I have to go. I have a space, as you know, in 20 minutes. Yeah.
For me, through the last chat about the boundaries and everything, I think first the artists have to have tolerance, a little bit of tolerance to have everyone's opinion. Whatever they say, it doesn't matter because what's inside you does not change. Everything comes from inside, not from outside. The outside influence is either inspirational or not so if it's an inspirational, you take from it. But.
Yeah, that's no problem. Thank you so much for that. We're launching tomorrow, actually we have 100. We're helping 119 artists in a virtual exhibition that you go around. Every artist has got to NFT to show.
Um, there are three links. One links to the link, three of the artist, one links to the profile on Twitter of the artist so people can follow the artist, and one links to your NFT the on the platform that you have your nft S on, so people can buy straight away from your platform from your marketplace. We're supporting 119 artists, three 238 NFD, not 11 marketplaces.
Everyone is invited. The exhibition is absolutely amazing and the artists there we have are absolutely incredible. So come and support artists the way they should be supported as you you're supporting the artist blue, blue to black.
But the the veg I have to say that you know I've been following you guys kind of going along and doing your thing and doing these exhibitions and how you support artist in your own ways just beautiful. I'm a very big supporter of virtual reality galleries and those who know me really know that about me and.
I just think that it's really essential for artists to really jump on the bandwagon of technology, incorporate I incorporate virtual reality galleries and these type of things. You know, it's it's it's a new dimension to our modern society and the more involved we become in like these kind of international kind of concepts and modern concepts of art and exhibiting art and so forth, you know, the more we can kind of like get the artist input and.
This mold, these concepts into even more beautiful other things that kind of flows from it and develops from it and grows from it. So that we have like this, you know, this fair kind of growth and development in terms of the arts and in terms of like, you know, our awareness of modern technology and so forth and, you know, being a supporter of it.
Is believe in yourself and just go for it. And with this, I have to go. Guys, thank you so much. Blue to black. And I hope to see you tomorrow. And before I go, I have to say hello. Doctor Wu. He's absolutely an amazing, amazing guy. He's got loads of experience. You should listen to him, guys. He's amazing. Thank you so much. Blue to black.
Yes, um hi divek. I know you're leaving but thank you so much for your kind words. Um what you said is absolutely right. We we need to have tolerance and we don't have tolerance to be honest with you, like we don't anything a person says you are scrutinised your brutally. Like you know, people just don't understand anymore, they don't want to, they just want power and control and that's it. And even in art.
Sometimes you're completely shattered because they don't want to understand what you have to say and what you have to show. So tolerance is something that we don't have anymore, or it's just not the same as it was before. Maybe because of too much of freedom and too much of power on the media that we are. We're saying too much and we're not listening to another person. We're talking too much and we're not listening. So when you stop listening.
Thank you for and thank you for the follow. I really appreciate it. I followed you back and it's if we change the mindset instead of letting things outside that affect us like social media is we have to give things from inside us and we have to look in the mirror and say what do you want to be, who do you want to be? And that's what you decide, decide and then go for it, but don't let anything outside to affect you.
I was overhearing Dm's kind of checking some stuff out, looking at his page, so just kind of hanging out over here. So yeah, thanks for hanging out in this space. I'm over here checking out your page. I sent you a follow and you know.
Okay so banning Bama's doing a very interesting noble project where he's trying to sell an NFD and then but by me please do share the NFD that you are that I'm referring to now. And then basically through selling these entities they want to basically create an awareness for just how little animals are actually in the zoo in in Nigeria and the like the shocking.
Kind of situation of, you know having a full zoo, but having just five animals in it and then kind of trying to create awareness of this and then through selling the nfts then create this fund that can then support the growth of these zoos to have more animals and have kind of a stability of food and basically just trying to create a general awareness and basically a support system for.
Beautiful animals and I love everything about Wildlife Conservation and reservation. So I went to the zoo to document how the zoo is what is needed in the zoo and I put all in a video. So I pinched the video up that is me talking initially at the begin.
0.01 on Ethereum blockchain. Yes. Thank you so much for having me. Bluetooth black. I I give kudos to you for all you have been doing, for all your support. And I love you, man. I love you, man. So thank you so much. Thanks a lot. And I can see Doctor Who in the building. Doctor Who is in the building. I can see a JJ is like a role model to me.
Always a pleasure. And we do wish you all the best in this is a very noble thing of you to try and do. And I, you know, The funny thing is, is that this is Africa and, you know, Africa should not be a place where you go and you don't see animals in the zoo. You know, this is the shocking part of it all. You know, it's like.
You know, if you consider how many animals have already been removed from, you know, their natural habitat and how we are kind of encroaching on all of their territories. But we're not giving any spice to the animals. And, you know, we're not making sure that other societies in our next generation grow up with the knowledge of nature and, you know, the trivial things of just going to zoos then taken away. And that is something that.
That is a noble quest. Survey me. I do wish you all the, all the best of luck in that. So I do want people to really be supportive of by me and you know, you know, show your love, show your support because it's a really noble thing of him that he's trying to do. So thank you, baby, for that. And then just wanted to say that to all the people you're a Doctor Who and all of you, thank you very much for being here tonight because you are the ones who are actually.
Creating this experience of the spices because I see you around and I find so much wisdom in so many of you that I am truly kind of blessed to kind of have your presence here today to kind of contribute to.
Yes, uh, I also just want to say, uh, thank you, blue to black for hosting this space. And you literally, like, it's so amazing. You give each and every artist their due importance. You listen to all of them so intently and with so much passion and like, you really make everyone feel really special. So I think that's amazing. You know what you do for artists over here?
But yeah, buy me we have give you all the support that there is. And so I've got a question now. So now the guy that's next is this guy in a blue gap, but I have no idea how to say his name or how to even spell it.
I'd like I'd like to introduce Eddie. I've met Eddie in a few spaces with a buddy of mine with a friend of mine named Zeller. She's phenomenal and she does some space hosting and he has done some Co hosting in those spaces and he is amazing. I have met him and his poetry that he does is very impactful and I would absolutely love if he would come up and do one.
You're welcome. And my name here is in Persian, that's why. Blue to black, that's why you was not understanding. Because I don't understand Persian either, but I know it's the Iranian native language, and I changed my name to show support from NASA Amini and made some sweets out in Persian. And that's thanks to Google Translate, because I'm an idiot and I only know English, but there's a lot of Iranian artists in the group in the room, actually.
Data arts, pante blue chicks, if I'm mistaken. I'm sorry, but I'm trying to pay attention to all the Iranian artists because I know that the Internet is cut off there by the Islamic Republic, not by Iran, because there's a difference. And I know Ali was up here earlier and confusing everybody because blue to black, I think it's your accent. It's not your English saying Eddie and Ali and Addie and I totally get it.
But that's just a little bit about my name. My name's Eddie. I'm a single father, I'm 42 years old, I live in Illinois, I'm a recovering drug addict, I'm a recovering alcoholic as well, and I have a 17 year old son that lives with me full time since he was two years old. And I like to use poetry when I am depressed. I write my thoughts out in my notepad on my phone and I like to take photography while I walk to help with my depression.
While I'm listening to mainly rap music, so I love taking photography, I grow sunflowers because some flowers make me happy, so I had 280 sunflowers. Like I said, I'm a recovering addict, so I do things addictively SO280 sunflowers growing around my house in rural Greenup IL, and I recently I thank you for sending that up blue to black. That's my depression riding right there. That's my inner thoughts on how.
So that's just, that's a like almost a 3 minute read right there of how my depression speaks to me. And for National Depression Awareness Month, I have now listed all of those at .025. It's a large additions piece because I don't know what the hell I'm doing in an ft. I'm just doing the best that I can and the last one solely a .10 earth. And each person that's purchased one of those said they are never selling it. So like if you want to give an opportunity to.
Pick one of those up to show support for depression. I would greatly appreciate it. I've listed them low because I would like for this month to have something trending on open sea that does not get trending and that's depression. We've been in the red too long. It's time to have a green candle on depression. So hopefully that kind of summed up a little bit about myself. Thank you for having the space.
OK, I'm not going to share that one because it's rather lengthy. I'm going to share the one that I'm currently in collaboration or in talks with collaboration and getting it translated into Hindi. And this one's called Mom's in space.
But yes, it is really true. We are in an international community and I actually have taken the I actually wanted to bring the Iranian artist to the space tonight. I felt it was really important, but not in a trendy way, not in a in a hash tag way, not in a in a funny way, but just introduce them to the people, to the other artists, because I have really like.
Felt for them and I think that the world or really associating with them at the moment and that they really needed the blue to black voice. So I really wanted to kind of invite the Iranian artist here tonight to kind of give them an opportunity to just make the other people know that you are surrounded by the Iranian artist and they are there, they are influencing you, they are, you know, they're sharing your the same culture. We are kind of still all using the same technology.
Essentially, you know, the things that makes us human is not the fact that we can all use a phone, but the fact that we can come together by using a phone. And, you know, that's the beauty about it. And This is why it's so important. And.
Doctor Wu, you are so quiet, actually. Actually, you should consider yourself just part of the cars, because that's way too quiet for you, man. I think that that's that's just wrong. So please do inject whenever you feel like it.
Just wanna say man, like so like even your in interpretation of of Massa's story is really important because that shows that the artists are actually taking responsibility for creating the awarenesses and you know, creating the the, the moods that are associated with this and whether it trends or not is besides the fact because you have to make it rent. It is our responsibility to make it trend. And essentially this is because.
These artists right here in the panel that are able to actually just give us that insight and give us that, you know, just perspective, you know, and kind of show us that now we know somebody in Iran's. So now we have a personal investment. Now we have a friend that's in there that, you know, can that we have to support, that we have to have, you know, so, you know, just be there for. And that essentially is what it's all about. You know, it's not about politics or it is not politics. Art is not