I'm gonna invite you to Co host in case you have to run take a shower.

Hello.

Hey, what's going on, man?

I just got back from driving my kids to a wedding and it was.

Good nightmare trip, like 7 hour trip.

Yeah.

Ohh damn man. My best friend um is actually on one of those Disney cruises and he invited us like in the earlier in the year and we would have had to take like a week off from work and shit. Like it worked right after like our anniversary and shit. So like.

No, we can go and join uh for a fucking eight day cruise just so my man could get married like.

Yeah.

Yeah, well, I've got my wife's family and I, we don't get along so well. And this is her nephew getting married and I was originally going to join them at the wedding, but my wife was so stressed about it and tense, I thought if I go to this wedding.

I'm going to embarrass her and piss her off, so I just withheld.

So I just dropped the kids off. But.

Ohh damn.

Ohh yeah.

I I had to charge my car. I got an electric car. I had to charge it three times today.

That was an extra hour.

Yeah, but it's not too bad. I like, go to a restaurant, sit down and have wine or something. You know? It's not bad.

Yep.

Where? What's going on vegan?

Hey, hey, how you guys doing?

What's up, man dear? Good. Hey, what type of, uh, what were you eating earlier that was like a green pie? It's like a green pizza pie.

Ohh yeah I went to this. I tried out this new cafe. It's like um it's called Harvest Cafe but it's like mostly vegan and plant based food. But it was like a.

It was like a whole wheat dough, and then it was like pesto as a sauce, and then like their house made cashew, ricotta, and a bunch of mushrooms. And I have very, very, very low expectations for vegan pizza because I've heard a lot of vegan pizza. It's always pretty mediocre. But this was actually really good and I I think I was smart by like putting my head like this going to taste like.

Cat food. But uh, it tasted pretty good, so I was surprised.

Right.

Pleasantly surprised. That's cool.

Yes.

I've had some like wheat bread pizza before, but not like a whole vegan style.

OK.

It was. It wasn't like it was OK. It was like pita bread that that's a better way to describe it was like a thin pita bread, kind of flimsy.

Ohh OK.

Yeah, really good. Though I make the best vegan pizza, though by far I've never had vegan pizza better than mine.

Umm, I used to love having breakfast pizza on Christmas Day because growing up kind of poor, we didn't have a whole lot of money, but we did have eggs and shit. So, you know, flatter eggs and make a little breakfast pizza.

Nothing wrong with that.

Keeps in the morning is always a good call.

Yeah, if it's like bacon and egg pizza, hell yeah.

What's? What's up?

Yeah.

Even just regular cold pizza in the morning is pretty good, I found.

Yeah.

It's a hangover cure, so goes up a lot. All that shit.

Yeah, I have not gone full vegan, but I am vegetarian.

Hmm.

Like my cheese.

Yeah, it's hard. It's hard.

It's hard. Yeah, cheese is a hard one. But maybe one day. Never know.

No, no I I'm not as pressed about the dairy, I I became a vegetarian more because of the climate than anything and.

You know, it's more about reducing consumption than it. You know, every now and then I'll have some meat just because I crave it. But.

They don't think that it's healthy for us to have these like industrial sized meat farms and dairy farms. It's it's not good for the environment or for us.

You're 100% correct.

Main thing you can do is buy me from one of your local farmers. Dude. When I worked at the wood shop we had a literal milkman. He was former CNC operator but he worked over in the door department helping.

And.

And he had a big farm he had like.

And um, dude, some of the dudes threw in.

Hmm.

To get one of the cows who was like getting kind of old and coming time to harvest, you know, they like all threw in for a butcher to fucking butcher him up and shit. And I mean, do they plan this shit out for like 4 months? Dude, I'm not even fucking with you. And for like for like the the four months when they first come up with this shit, this big ass dude named John, he's about 380.

He kept fucking asking Dan about his cow man. Hey, you, you sure you on? We all we all together. We're gonna do this good. I'm gonna come bring you over some some cow feed, some cow food, some feed for your cow. Wants you to give him to him. OK, dude, he was like dropping off special food for this fucking cow for like 4 months, dude. Trying to like.

Yeah.

Hmm.

And they did. They finally harvest them up, dude. I think each one of them got like fucking. I think there's like 12 or 15 steaks or some shit, dude. And other stuff. It was like way, way less than what you'd pay per pound is the way to go, dude. His milk though. Holy fuck. I grew up drinking 2% and he had that good whole milk dog and you could fucking see it. Can Guild on the inside. You'd have to like shake it up. And he he'd get those big ass.

Hmm.

Courts, jars. You know those big ass ones? Nice ones. And he'd sell you like a gallon for like 5 bucks, man. You talk about some of the best fucking milk ever. You could tell that he really loved his cows.

Yeah.

That's cool. I have not ever fucked with fresh milk like that, I don't think.

Yeah.

Hmm.

Man I like. I hate whole milk, but petries whole milk now that kind of whole milk. Oh my God it is like the creamiest shit ever. You want to talk about adding some vanilla cream to your coffee dude? Oh my God it's good man.

Yeah, I pretty much. The only time I have milk is we've got one of those Moka express things. You know what that is on the stove? It like makes really thick Italian style coffee.

Ohh yeah yeah. My wife has one for like little expressos.

Yeah.

Yeah, except like that's what I make my coffee out of. So it's like a big ass pot of it, you know? And that shit, if I don't put milk in it, it will fuck my stomach up.

Uh, yes.

Yeah, exactly.

Over under right. It's got the water on the bottom and it bubbles through it. Yeah, yeah. My wife uses a little miniature one and she makes that thick as fuck, dude, I mean thick.

Yeah, but it's it's good coffee. I mean if you like to get wired in the morning, that's that's the way to go.

I make my own milk. I can't. I can't.

It's.

Make my own milk from scratch.

That's cool.

Is that or gorilla milk, Sir?

Ohh wow, that's cool.

That's really cool.

Some good milk gives you way more nutrients and shit and you can put a little little sweetener in there, a little little good stuff to make it taste good. But I know I got this. What's it called? The almond cow. It's like a little machine and like find blends it up and makes milk and like a minute. It's really cool. You can use like any nut like almond, cashew, whole wheat, coconut. Make whatever kind of milk you want and like less than a minute. Super cool.

Yeah.

Yeah, I might have to try some some alternatives in my coffee in the morning, see what happens.

So is that like a, uh, like an industrial bullet for like grinding up milk?

Basically, yeah, they have um, uh, commercial sized ones for restaurants, but you can buy one for your home. It's like 300 bucks I think. But yeah, it's super cool investment and they can send you the nuts and everything too. Seeds, whatever you want.

Back in 2020, I started uh.

Eating smoothies every day and like that was like my main thing. I ate during the day and that has helped me in my like, health so much. It's crazy just the combination of having a smoothie every day and taking a walk.

Because I sit on a computer and program all the time and it was really wearing me down bad. And when I started doing that shit, I felt like a million times better.

That's freaking awesome. Yeah, that's. I need to get back on the exercise and gym membership, actually. Gotta bounce, actually, to go pick up my kids. But getting your voices? See y'all later.

That's cool talking to.

Hey everybody, see you.

I started this space for natalism.

But.

I guess he didn't come.

That's cool. And I'm happy to hang out and talk. Yeah, I'm all by myself. Everybody's now at the wedding, so.

Word.

Uh, co-host the space for a moment and while we got a little low, I'll hop in the shower. Might take me in 5 minutes.

Right on, I'll be here.

Ohh and you missed the poker game. You gonna catch the next one?

I might. It depends. I got I've got a crazy schedule. So, like, I mean, I'm.

Yeah.

I run a company, I've got 4 devs I manage and I've I'm going to school for my masters.

And I've got two teenagers.

Holy mackerel.

Yeah, you don't have.

Just so I I I get online when I can.

Yeah, yeah, you're so your face is glued to either the computer screen, the phone, or your children. Yeah, I got it, I got it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I was telling filthy and Matt maybe we could do one on Sunday afternoon maybe so we can try to get some of our overseas friends to join because they're like 6-7 half dead on some of them.

Yeah, Sundays are typically a pretty good day for me to do stuff like that.

And right before hopping in the shower, just learning about all this Almada shit, dude. I didn't realize they had someone companies under their belt, dude.

Uh.

Oh my God, man. So ridiculously bad.

The.

Out of picture of all of their subsidies, like their games and their crypto services and shit. And I'm like holy fuck dude, that's like 100 something companies, man.

They're even a part of yoga.

Yeah, I saw that too. Which, uh hmm.

Yeah.

Hmm. I don't know how big. I don't know how deep.

Well, it's, it's tough. Like, I mean, you're taking investments, right? You're trying to raise investments for a company and some motherfucker that's got money is like, hey, I'll invest in you.

How do you say no to that?

You know what I mean? It's like it's capitalism, right?

I don't know how much they gave him in terms of control. I don't think very much. That's what they claim anyway. But typically somebody that's coming in and giving a fraction of what the company's holdings are, they're not going to get that much control. It's more about them getting some money out in the other side.

At least in my experience.

Yeah, I wonder. Um.

Wonder how that's gonna affect them, if anything.

They amend don't leave your money on.

Like.

No, I you know, I'll buy crypto on Coinbase and immediately pull it out as soon as I can.

Yeah, see like.

Man, most of the time I don't have money in crypto for like more than a day.

Hmm.

Like, you know, if I do have it for longer than that, you know I'll move it off to like a different cold wallet, but.

Most of the time I'm in and out, man.

Yeah.

It's not even a thing and I stay so far up on news.

Before shit really hits the market, I kind of already have like.

Hmm.

I've already heard something about it. Or?

Sure.

Well.

A lot of times news will break like late at night and I'll be like, what? What the fuck, I better go.

Well, me being a dev, I need to make sure I've got a little reserved so I can deploy shit if I need to.

That's pretty much what I'm. That's why I use it, you know.

Be right back.

Yep.

I started this space for you, God damn it.

Now what's up?

I just got out of the shower, so I'll be right back.

Did you get the invite?

I sent you an invite to speak.

I don't know if he can speak or not. I think he said he might not be able to speak.

Oh, that's cool. Well, we can just talk to him then.

Yeah, I got out of the shower, so.

I don't know.

Ohh.

So you got any cool home improvement jobs going on?

Just the laminate flooring I got to drop in.

I'm gonna do that this weekend. I was actually supposed to do it last weekend, but.

Part of the deal of us moving there with no deposit was I put down laminate flooring in two bedrooms. So.

That's cool.

Yeah, they're gonna buy the laminate flooring.

We're just gonna put it in. So that's about it.

We had a bunch of stuff done in our house last year. Got like all the bathrooms redone and the floor all over the first floor.

Ohh nice.

Took all the carpet out and put in this like kind of wood grain tile stuff. It's nice and padded. It's real comfortable.

Oh, OK, there's like a like a laminate type tone.

It's not. It's it looks like wood panels, but it's artificial.

Right.

Yeah.

I don't know exactly what it's made of, but.

Hmm.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Yeah, they're pretty big on those tiles down here that look just like wood that are really roughed up to go and those so they don't like when they get fucked up a little bit, it don't really look like they're fucked up.

Exactly.

That's OK, we don't care if your English is good or bad, man, I barely speak English myself.

They have studied 3 languages other than English. I can't speak any of them.

Oh.

But I know.

I know.

Reason he can't.

For some reason he can't use the mic or emoji.

Huh.

Let me see if I can invite him to cohost.

See if that would do it.

I'm gonna burn one up myself.

We can get high and talk about web three shit.

Sounds good smoke weed and NFT's, right?

Yeah, smoking weed and not buying NFTS, but looking around it in FT's.

Yeah, I can't be buying no NFT's right now.

Hell no, dude. I'm not fucking anything right now. My wife's gonna poison me one day.

So you know that that rip in Efts project.

Um, yeah, I did see that.

So a friend of mine convinced me to buy into that project way back. Like two months ago maybe.

And you know he he like was talking up the founder and all this stuff and.

They came and said all this stuff. They had all these plans for follow up collections and there's some clever stuff they were doing, I thought. So I bought into it and.

They are just like.

So infuriating in terms of they just don't do shit. So like.

Finally, I'm like, you know what do you need help? Let me help you. Can I just like write a contract for you? Can how do we get this going?

Yeah.

And dudes like yeah, yeah, let's do it. So he's like get up, you know how soon can we get the contract? And I'm like ohh, I see what I can do this weekend. I turn it out. I got the contract for.

I've got no graphics, I've got no metadata.

I've got no website design.

Like where are the assets so I can make it?

Hmm.

Uh, hang on a minute.

Now they're saying it's gonna be a week.

Holy shit.

Like you motherfuckers said that you were gonna have this collection on Halloween.

And now you've got me right in the contract and making the website for you and you don't even have the graphics.

Which?

NFT name like that. You know, to be honest. To be honest.

I mean that would be the time to drop that type of MFT would be during the month.

Yeah.

Yeah.

By this NFT, you ain't selling it. Nobody's gonna buy that shit. You know what I mean? And I had this great idea, and I still have it. And we could run it with Horde, right? So what you do is you set up a contract and you call it a graveyard, right?

And you've got.

Yeah, yeah. I think saying something about that.

You got so many plots and people can come and bury an NFT and you pay them like 1 Guay, right? Which is nothing.

Less than gas, right? But you're still paying them in the same currency they bought the thing.

Right.

That's a tax write off.

Yeah, saw like another NFT group doing that.

I can't remember the fucking name of it.

Harvest dot art.

That's what it is.

Is yes.

Yes, but they are. They are literally harvesting it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like they're taking it and I want to make a permanent grave.

That you can put a grave marker on with a message.

Right. So you can literally bury your NFT that you're pissed off at.

Umm.

And then you could go to the website and you could link to it, right? So you could link.

To this buried in FT that you made and it would have a picture with the grave marker that you made a message on.

You see what I'm saying?

I do, I do. That's a good idea. What if you what if you were able to?

Hmm.

Like say partner up with some kind of brand that would be able to put a little liquidity into some advertisement for themselves, OK. And then what if you were able to like, you know, take their NFT and burn it for them because they want to get rid of it anyway and you give them like a Glee or something, you know?

Hmm.

Hmm.

Or or whatever. And maybe plot it down on this land so somebody can look at it and be like, Oh yeah, this is the massive graveyard of all the fucking. This is the ever expanding graveyard of NFTS that we've burned so far. And this one was burned from this address. It's all plotted on land. And then we give them like a Glee or something, you know, a little bit something, and they just get like maybe like a.

Advertisement or something that they have to look at on our website or something.

Hmm.

For like for like.

That the advertising thing is.

A hard sell.

Like.

Or maybe they have like.

Watch this 22nd.

Well, think of, think about, think about the people, the hold on. The people come into this site, right? We're going to sell this to NFT projects.

Or like, who's gonna advertise on this, you know, I just wanna trying to think like.

Yeah. Audience for the advertisement part. Yeah, like who's?

Like, well, it's not just about that, like what the audience is, it's like.

It's like the NFT market is so esoteric and insider and anti advertising, right? So like every day you see some bullshit in FT advertising on Twitter.

And those are never successful.

This is true.

Right.

Period.

So I kind of think with the NFT space putting up, you know, your standard ad probably wouldn't fly very well.

Even if it was like, you know, like Kroger's grocery store or something.

I think that would do even worse.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, you're right. I just chucked that out there though, you know?

Hell yeah.

No, no, no. It's. I mean, it's it's totally cool to bounce ideas around, right?

From there I have bad ideas all the time.

Came up with anything and she's been in the damn space.

What's up, kit?

I invited you to speak.

Uh, sorry about that crazy space.

What was it the other night with those drunk girls? I don't know where the fuck it came from.

It's all good, man. I mean, it's just wild Twitter, right?

Yeah.

Drew, why do you always call me out? Usually I can hide in the space without talking.

Even came back and changed your profile pic.

Well, it's tricky when there's only like 5 people you know it's hard to hide.

But we just wanted to talk about some web three shit.

Enough teas and weed, I guess.

Yeah, I actually only buy NFT's so I can.

Learn from them.

Make them.

I don't even intend to make money off of them. I don't. I I've made money off of like one in FT I bought.

Yeah, I love your owl one.

That you have now.

Yeah, that's a nice one. It's one of my favorites.

So you just buy the NFT and just kind of learn about the community, see if you can try to work for them.

Well, it's more like, um, so I'm a I'm an entrepreneur, I make businesses, you know, and I want to understand the web 3 space and what motivates people and.

Kind of projects get traction and what kind of traction do they have? What do their users enjoy about their product, you know?

So when we started doing in the node, I bought into every node.

So I have access to trippy node, I have access to the just cubes hypernode, and I have access to the lama verse. I can't 8 tools, I think that's what they call it. I've got access to all those nodes so I could test them and see how they work and make something.

You don't have access to the motherfucking hordy note of Drew Bob and Son.

Now.

Uh, well, I mean, if you get it through my system, I do.

Ohh shit, I'm just kidding.

Yeah, it.

I literally named though hoarding node for drew bobbin.

No, that's good. That's a good name. It's, it's interesting the the trippy node and the just cubes node, which I'm pretty sure that those two were.

Kind of the innovators in the space in terms of providing node access within FTS, right?

Both groups I've like looked into like their stories and how they built their stuff and.

Basically, it's some college kids. They built the shit in their dorm room.

Right. And that's cool. I I give them props for that. They're out there learning and growing and.

Right.

Right.

But I've been making servers and running websites since like fucking 1999. I know a little bit about it, you know.

And the way they're doing it.

Yeah, I buy.

Not going to tell them how to make it better, but I just will make it right. So that's what I did.

Can now when it won't it be true.

Hmm.

Like in the future, because of coins who are finite supply, like Bitcoin and when they run out and they're longer minting Bitcoin and Bitcoin goes on too, rewarding um, transaction validators with simply fees alone.

Hmm.

Wouldn't it become the most profitable or lucrative to run the largest node that you could?

I mean, isn't that gonna be like, hasn't that always kind of been the gameplay?

Get my paper.

So there are there are different kinds of nodes, right? And with proof of stake like Ethereum has today, you've got validator nodes.

Right.

That are that require you to have ETH staked to run right and then you've got your standard private node.

Just has a copy of the blockchain and submits to the mempool.

Right.

The node that we are running is the latter.

Yeah.

Right, it does not do validation. Um. I have some ideas about making a validator node and actually like having token holders.

Own a stake in the validator node through their purchase of the token.

Ohh.

And actually get get like staking rewards like literal ETH staking rewards, you know, but that's that's not developed.

Hmm.

No.

That's right, because I'm wondering like the food that like the node you set up for the horde I like now, are you granted liquidity through through anything?

Right.

Nothing. Nothing like that. It costs money. It just costs money. That's all. It's.

Now, now, like how does it cost money?

To run OK so I could run a server in my house.

But the problem is.

Consumer Internet has a terrible upstream. Do you know what I mean by that?

Fucking terrible upstream.

Like that.

Yeah, so if I if I run a server in my house.

Like 35 megabytes upstream.

On my local network it's going to be fantastic, but if you try to access it through my consumer Internet, it's going to be garbage.

Right.

Yeah.

So what you do is you go and you rent space in a data center.

Provision a server there.

I like to use a WS because they've got one of the top tier.

You know, cloud systems, they're, they are they have been innovated that space better than anybody. I'm.

So you're basically just renting somebody else's computer.

Hmm.

Computer. Basically hardware to run your own node.

Yeah.

Network cloud based tip.

It's more sophisticated than that though, because.

There's the node, and then there's the proxy to the node, because if your node is just wide open to the public.

Then you're going to have anybody can access right? And then it's not token gated, so you have to have some software in front of the node that token gates it now.

With trippy node and just cubes, they're using a standard web server as that proxy.

Ohh.

Right, so trippy nodes specifically uses engine X.

And just cubes is using Apache.

And I took a different approach.

I am using a Lambda function on a WS which is a serverless function.

That's the proxy.

So when you call the node, it hits my Lambda.

And my Lambda then passes the request to the node.

Unless.

Request is one of two types.

Get transaction count.

Estimate gas.

Now, why do you think I do it that way?

Hmm. To cut down on contract space.

No.

I'll just tell you I figured this out by analyzing the traffic that came from Meta mask.

If you send if you send ether or ERC 20 or transfer a token or anything like that using meta mask.

It first does a, well, transfer. An NFT is different because that actually calls a function, but transferring ether is.

Different than calling a function, it's like a standard.

Process on Ethereum that's outside of contracts.

Right. And in order for you to make a transaction like that, you need what's called a nonce. It's a number used only once, right?

And so, before Madam Mask initiates that transfer.

Does call to get transaction count on your wallet?

And that returns the number of transactions that your wallet has made. Meta Mask adds A1 and uses that as the knots the number used once, right? And that's required for sending that transaction. And it has to be unique and it has to be greater than the last one.

That's the rule and and the way Ethereum works so that if I block that because you're not a holder.

Where you don't have the right URL.

I effectively prevent you from transferring ether.

You see?

Similarly when you.

So are you gonna stop me from transferring my ETH on the hoarding?

Don't fuck with me, right?

Be honest, right now it's supported.

No, no, no no. This is this is the token gating, right? So I check your, I check your wallet and I say do you have the right tokens?

OK.

I got.

And if if you have the right tokens you can get, you can transfer your ether using using the hoarding net, right?

Wording of and the tokens.

Yeah, so if you got all of it, then it works. But that's where a token gave it, right?

And there's one other place. Estimate gas.

Hmm.

So I got if I get rid of all my my. If I get rid of my my hordes, I gotta get off the node.

Well, I mean, you can still be there, you just can't use it.

Yeah, right.

I'll still be on and I just can't use it.

Yeah.

That's the way we want it, though.

Yeah. The other thing that I use as so the other thing that I block is estimate gas.

If you're not holding.

Because estimate gas is called anytime you do a contract interaction.

Where you're writing to the contract anything of anything meaningful, right?

And so if you wanted to mint a token.

You would need to call estimate gas first.

At least Meta Mask worked.

Right and so basically what I did is I I reverse engineered how meta mask communicates with the node.

And I built the token gating so I would minimally impact your interactions.

To check if you're a valid user.

That's how it works.

Now.

I thought they would be some kind of vulnerability left open too, but I guess if not, if you're not interacting with anything else.

But like with.

Well, somebody, somebody could potentially.

All the node without making one of those requests and use it.

They absolutely can't and I actually have some things set up to prevent abuse. So on the personal URL's I set a quota so you can only do so many requests in a day, but it's a pretty high quota.

But if you shared it with like 20 people right, you would hit the quota most likely and then your link wouldn't work for the day.

Right.

Somebody does attack the contract.

By trying to request this information and getting denied over and over again.

You can't. You can't do that to a contract, but you can do it to a node.

Right, so now this is an interesting little side effect.

Hey, hang on. I just want to let see these other people think I don't know shit. Motherfuckers. I'll be in the space talking to people like you. You need to get your learn on. Put your damn pen and paper in your hand and learn and take heed to this vital information that's managed here and I appreciate it. Go ahead, Sir.

I lost my track.

So we were just talking about trying to attack the node and stuff, you know, like if somebody was just trying to request information on the node.

Would they be over?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I have a I have, I have a web application firewall on the node, right? And I set that up.

Because.

I I would when I was learning about the other node providers there was one of them that said this is how you can test a node and see how fast it is and it had these instructions that you software created by impura.

To basically stress test.

A node, right?

And I was able to use that to like run some tests against my node and these other nodes and I found that on trippy node no matter how hard I hit their node.

It just, it just didn't phase it. It was just super fast and reliable, right?

You know, it's like, how are they doing that? And I thought maybe they're not sending accurate responses.

Right. Maybe they've got some kind of a cash or something like that.

Yeah.

And.

In some kind of like cookie or something that they're going back and putting up with a validator or something.

And I was not sure. I wasn't sure what was happening there, and I couldn't see the responses. The way the software worked, I could just see that there were successes, right?

And so I I noticed when I ran it against my own node that the traffic on the node exploded when I ran this against it, and to the point that it degraded performance significantly. You know.

And I mean I'm running like.

I was running like 10,000 requests at 250 simultaneous requests, right? And it would just burn through it as fast as it could?

That is a lot of traffic on a server.

You know, 250 simultaneous requests is a lot.

And so I thought, well, let me, I don't want just anybody doing this against the server, right that could they could do a delay of service kind of attack and DDoS.

So I put a web application firewall on the server.

And instead of when the firewall was blocking you, instead of sending a failure message in HTTP.

I sent a failure message in Athyrium.

Right.

Success message in HTTP.

Then when I ran the benchmarking software against my node.

I saw the same pattern trippy node had.

In fact, I outperformed them.

Your.

Because I was blocking every fucking request and sending them some bullshit.

You see?

Damn. Yeah.

And that's that's what trippy node was doing too. They have a firewall on their ship.

And that's why they published the article telling people to test the nodes that way.

They published that article.

Tried it like to try to get in heck.

It made them look good.

Right, because the other nodes couldn't handle that traffic.

Right now, we're having no.

Just basically blocking everything and then.

But it's basically it's it's a complete nonsense test, right?

Because it doesn't verify that the response from Ethereum is valid.

It just says is there a success response you see?

Hope it went through. It's good.

Exactly. And so these guys at trippy node.

That's kind of like, that's kind of like how the CIA used to just let the planes boost off. And where was it down? Iran and Contra. Yeah, good man.

Yeah, well these guys this was a this was a clever ass scam, right? So.

Made a node. A competitor made a node.

And they're like shit. What are we gonna do to make these guys look bad? So they wrote this medium article. Well, actually they didn't write it. They had a friend of theirs write.

Right, who now has like high access in their server and shit? And so their friend publishes this medium article.

Pairs in quotes all the different node providers and it says this is how you test them and when you run that test against.

You know they're just cubes. Note they're not doing the same thing. And they they're their performance degrades as you slam it with insane amounts of requests, right?

Because that's the natural thing to happen to a server.

It's just crazy how these things work and how dishonest people are, you know?

Yeah, man.

That's crazy.

Like, and I wonder about like, you know, there's all kinds of fucking notes and fit, but you know, if people, if people don't know what they're doing with them, it's easy to get kind of into the wrong one.

Straight.

Yeah. Well, I mean The thing is people don't know what they're doing. They really don't like, you can go, you can go to alchemy, right, which is there a node provider.

And you can get free access.

To a private note through them.

So it's going to be throttled so it won't be as fast as their premium service.

But it's still a private node.

Right up.

It's free. You see what I mean?

Yeah.

So like.

These these guys selling this stuff as like the Super premium service it's it's kind of a scam you know and I I I was straight up with Matt like this is something that will provide some value but this isn't going to be like a huge you know.

Value we're providing. We can't spend tons of money providing this because it's not going to be a game changer, but it's a nice to have.

Yeah.

You know.

Hmm. Yeah, well of course you know, they get a you can't give everybody the the bees knees, man, you you can't give them the head, shoulders and the toes.

You know, um.

Well, my thing is I like to teach people.

That would be especially if you're just trying to like set up something for the, let's just say quote UN quote, uneducated about, because I'm even in one of those, like I'm not as educated about NFTS and contracts like as a lot of these motherfuckers, certainly some like yourself or somebody you know so.

Be you know.

You're right.

Well, we're all learning. I've only been. I've only been in the crypto space at all since last December.

So it's less than a year?

Right, right. I've kind of been in it since like February.

Did I tell you the story about how I came into crypto?

With the ugly people.

Ugly people.

I think I think about it the other day. I can't remember it or didn't.

Well, let me just tell you the story. It's a fun story. So.

I had worked at this startup with a graphic designer named Corey Donovan and.

He was talented, you know, but he went and started working at a different company. His cousin's company got a big raise, so he went out to California or something was doing that.

And he came back to Ohio and he hits me up and he's like, hey man, I'm gonna do an NFT project and I want you to be the dev.

And I was like, well, that's cool, I'll, I'll do that and we get in this project. I'm all excited to start working on the blockchain. I've been interested in it a long time, but never touched it.

And I get involved in this project and after about.

It's like February, end of February.

I start to realize that these guys had no intention.

Of making a product that lived past the mint.

I remember you telling me this. Yeah, go ahead. Go.

Yeah, I I kept asking him like, you know, what should we, you know, what do you want to develop for people to use after the minute so we can grow and what kind of utility do you want? Like, no, none of that.

This is.

You know that you're just ripping people off then, right? And the guy was like.

No, no, no, no, man, these are gonna be worth so much money, he seriously believed.

That just the art.

To make these NFTS worth millions of dollars. He seriously believed that.

And I kept trying to convince him that's not going to happen.

And we had a long conversation about it. And then like two days later he fired me.

And they hired 0X studios to come in.

Because you knew too much, man.

Your liability then?

He hired him to come and do the mint.

And they they successfully minted out at .3.

10,000 NFTS.

They in total with that and the royalties from that initial run.

Pulled in about $5 million.

And.

Big bags.

The day after the mint.

All the money was taken out and divided up among the different founders.

There were two of them that stuck around.

Past the first day.

Right, so day one.

Like seriously? Like 1200 ETH was exited from the project.

Day one.

And the remaining guys were just constantly talking about all the things they were going to do.

And they never did.

And they never did. And then months go by and they just closed the discord.

They were like all doxed. Everybody on the team was doxed.

And they still just fucking rugged $5 million out of the market.

And I was.

But I mean, OK, but did they have any promises though that they made public? Like they were they were actively saying shit like.

Ohh yeah ohh yeah.

Yeah.

Oh man, that's fucked. That's fucked. It's one thing. Like, if they're saying like, OK, we're going to do all this, you know, we we we got X coming on day 2.

Make your bomb.

Like where your mom bake it better pie after.

Ohh they ohh man it was crazy the promises they made one of the so check this out this this shits hilarious right?

And then all of a sudden they're gone. Like that's kind of.

So there they were, toast, right? Their floor price collapsed badly. It was down to like .04 from .3 met, right?

And they're like, how can we, how can we turn this around? And they came up with this great idea.

We'll hire these two new executives from Google.

So 0X studio.

Is run by ex. Google employees.

And coincidentally, Cory Donovan, who knew no one from Google.

Was able to bring on.

Two former Google employees as his new executives.

He wouldn't say who they were. Well, I was. I I infiltrated their discord because I wanted to see what the fuck was going on and understand this shit.

You're a fucking spy, dude. What?

Yeah, so I'm watching this all go down and I'm talking to people and I was actually leaking information and do all kinds of crazy stuff, but.

You fucking spy.

You're by.

I'm talking to this one guy and he knows he has he figured out who.

Guy that they hired was and so he sends me the guy's Twitter and I'm going I well first he sends me the guys, the guys wallet and he has just dumped all his ugly people in FT's. This is their new CEO right?

Gave him a bunch of NFTS when they hired him.

He just sold them all. Like, I see that, you know, and like what's going on here? So I start looking through his Twitter feed.

And a few days before.

Sold them all, he posted a poll on Twitter.

Asking if a project comes out.

And its floor price immediately crashes to nothing.

Will it ever come back?

And uh.

Basically everybody said no and he replies, yeah, that's what I thought too.

Was taking over a project just like that.

Then he posted that poll.

You see what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Like he.

Nobody knew that he was this guy. He posts this poll on Twitter. He realizes this project's bullshit.

They had already paid him and his wife each ten ETH and gave him a stack of NFT. He sells all the NFT's and basically gets fired.

And walks away with 28th.

We're doing Jack shit, but selling NFTS.

Man, that ain't bad at all.

But that's how dumb Cory Donovan was. He just walked right into that shit thinking, ohh, we'll just hire this superstar executive and they'll make everything great. And that's not how shit works.

We're not gonna hire somebody.

Make your product. They have to love your product to make it, and they're not gonna love it if you're paying them.

You know, I think.

You know what I mean? Love don't come from that. You don't love your fucking boss.

I think from uh. I think some projects are kind of propped up with some shady shit.

Some of the founders be buying their own NFTS and shit.

Ohh yeah.

Stuff like I I won't name names or nothing but.

Sure.

You know, that's all verified and shit, but like, I've been watching that.

Been a bunch of the NFL.

You, not even too long ago, and that man they took a.

Couple of weeks later and see the same thing.

Have you ever encountered an NFT community that is just a cult? Like straight up it's a cult.

Yeah, I'm in one. It's the swole cult.

No, I mean like like a bad cult. Like a Johns Jonestown cult. You know what I mean? Like, let's all drink the kool-aid kind of a cult.

Ohh, we haven't. We've we got, we got that. We got something different in this whole cold. It's the.

Swole canned protein.

Man.

It sounds like fight milk.

OK, we've already joined up. We got a metaverse. Now we're we're on some beta on a metaverse.

But see, that's that's not what I mean by cult, right? I well, you gotta you gotta know.

Well, we're getting there, OK, you gotta give us time to get some more devoted followers.

I was in an NFT community.

Where they would violently purge people when they stepped outside of the rules.

And like, they would like attack you on Twitter and it was like, it was insane. It was a it was literally like a like one of those cults that traps people, you know what I mean?

Like, I don't think slow cult is trapping Andrew.

No, not yet.

It's not that kind of a cult, man.

No, no.

Now.

I will.

Well, God hates NFTS. Is that kind of a cult?

I was in like the what is it? The cult of ETH or something in their discord. It was like nothing.

May have been another one, it may have been another one, but they're.

Yeah, there was like their discord was nothing but like cat.

Brain.

That's that's like role play cult, right? When if they, if you call it, if you call yourself a cult, you're role-playing, right. These guys are like actively trying to make the leader of the project into like this holy figure that people worship and if you disagree with them, they want you to be afraid.

I'm saying like it's that kind of a thing. It's fucked up, man. The one of the leaders of the community actually has Jim Jones in his profile. Jim Jones, the guy from Johnstown that actually had people drink poison, kool-aid.

My case is idle.

You know what I mean? It's kind of fucked.

You know.

Maybe you're into that kind of thing.

We could be.

Yeah, like you know swole wants it to happen.

I I'm not really trying to worship some weird motherfucker that talks through a voice changer in spaces, you know?

Yeah.

No, I'm OK on that stuff. That's why I wouldn't at all that beep boop bop shirt and I was just numb and I'm like just you're probably doing cool things, but.

Well, and on top of it, not only are they like, you know, doing this weird mind control on the people that are in their community.

But they're actually led by like Q Anon type people that are.

Talking all kinds of like crazy shit about black people.

Liberals and like all that madness.

Those markers are crazy as fuck. I think. Like, what I like about NFTS is like, you know, the ship people are coming up with like, oh, you know.

Ticket for life.

Hell yeah, man.

Something. Or, you know, you buy this NFT and we donate to, you know, this hurricane fund or something. You know, that's cool as shit. And then I'll.

Yeah, how can you how? Like all the different ways that you can innovate, you know?

Yeah. And then the cool shit people are doing with like interchangeable shit with like video games, like, oh, you get this and it will change your character. And now they're coming up with games and stuff like that. Like that's super cool. And I said years ago, fucking because I heard it on the news that, you know all of these big like movie production companies and shit like.

Hmm.

And like even Microsoft and Xbox, PlayStation, they're all moving towards like Interactive Entertainment and that's why you're seeing bigger rises. And not only like these like story games that come out where you're basically paying playing a narrative and you're making choices on the games just through like dialogue. You're not really playing anything else. You choose a dialogue, then a new scene in the game comes out and you know you're seeing more interactive like.

They came out with the Unreal Engine and you had that demo of the.

They're like able to walk through downtown and change the fucking buildings and grated grated agent in the sky and shit like that. Like that's coming more and more. And now you see fucking like Netflix has like interactive shows now that you know you're watching this horror movie or this horror show here and oh, you can click A or click OK here and go into like a different kind of story of the fucking Netflix show. And I think that's why.

Like story driven NFT's are like big or we're getting big. I don't know kind of what they are, right?

Well, I think, I think that will always be a thing. You know, having the story driven project can be fun and engaging if the story is good.

Right.

Yeah, one.

But not every one of them looks good.

And that's not the only kind of project.

Yeah, you know, like me, I'm more interested in like.

Hmm.

You know, OK, I buy like an NFT and it shows up on my wall. You know, that shit's cool. Or I can get this NFT and it gives me a fucking game.

Now or like.

Hmm. Now there's a have you ever heard of Izu?

Hmm. I think I have. I think I have.

Is a pretty big project and it kind of flopped.

I bought into it because I thought it was interesting and I was intrigued by this where to earn concept.

I was curious what they were going to do.

And they're actually implementing it now. And what they're doing is.

You get this app.

And it connects with NFC chips and clothes from certain brands.

And they pay you to wear it.

Like a really?

Yeah.

And so they can tell that you're wearing it by having your phone with you.

Hmm.

And it's like connected through the NFT. So you have to have the NFT. It's pretty interesting. I'm I'm going to hold on to him and see what happens.

That is pretty interesting.

That's like a that's like a like a pedometer, but like your app.

Hmm. It's. I think it's a it's a way for brands to.

Kind of encourage people to wear their products in certain places, things like that. I think that's kind of where they're going.

Almost like an advertising on your back, you know?

Yeah.

I like that idea, but the whole thing is like well, you need to have your phone anyways and the app, so why the heck do you have to? I I said it in a space with the creators and listen to them, but still it's like why can't you just create an app that works with like a Apple health and stuff?

Or like I think. Well, I mean, I think what they're trying to do is they're keeping it cheap, right? Because the tech involved in what they're doing is not expensive.

You can. The key is like.

Ensuring the person has the product on right and only a handful of products would fit that because underwear.

Gonna be a good advertisement, right? But like a jacket, right? So you've got like a puffy jacket, you could if somebody's got that. And the RFID from that puffy jacket is detectable from the phone.

They're probably wearing it.

It's a safe assumption, right? And so you can kind of just assume that they're actually wearing it.

And you could then, you know, allow them to make the claim of whatever reward, right, for whatever time they ward or, I don't know exactly how they track it.

But if you were going to do something, that would be.

On another level, like, say.

Have a piece of clothing that had like some form of digital screen on it.

That you could sell advertising space on.

Right.

That would be another level, you know, but that would also be.

I think funds already doing that shit. I think already planning that.

It would be expensive for the maker.

And the buyer?

You know what I mean? And to to.

If you're going to make a product.

You gotta raise funding and you gotta make it and it's expensive. I one time I was in a company.

And we made a product that was a custom Android device that would sit in.

Like a music venue where they have bands, play and.

What's that?

Good work, guy. Straight up. Do you work for the motherfucking CIA, right, Rihanna?

I.

No.

I was actually asked to apply to the CIA by my graduate teacher and I told him I don't work for torturers and I was basically kicked out of the graduate program.

Yeah, yes. You just tell people you were kicked out. You.

Alright.

OK, see, you caught me. You caught me. I am actually. I am the CIA.

I'm alright, I just need to.

Well, they like.

Them. All of them now.

Hmm.

OK, you know how you get those NFT's in your head and folder and shit? People just be sending it to you and you change the graphic on it and should make it look like something else, like a month later, you know, like.

Man, why are we seeing more people like?

Look up like these NFT's like OK, we'll pay you to get this NFT.

OK, we'll pay the get you this then, FD.

So I I had. I had a plan.

And we'll fucking get an advertiser to advertise that NFT. As long as you put it as your PFP, you you get.

It's a little bit of share of some adrev.

So that is potentially something, but you'd have. There's so many connections that need to be made that so.

It would be tough to do the plan I had.

Because in order to pay people.

I was going to create a system that was split into two groups and you had one group that would be basically your. I called them the builders.

And I was going to actually have a test before you came into the community to decide which group you went into. And I was going to try to figure out if you're a builder or if you're a trader, right? And the builders would have special access, exclusive access to menting.

And they would have royalty rights.

On the tokens, they meant right and then the traders would have the right of first sale.

So they would be able to buy the the minted tokens.

From the mentors exclusively.

At a very reasonable price.

And they would have the right of first secondary sale.

Right.

And their purchases would go through a market that we would build for the system. So it would be controlled access, right.

Umm.

And that way the traders would be able to make money on that first sale and the mentors would be able to make money on their royalty streams.

Right. And the idea was it would be like a factory for projects.

And the builders would be invested in making valuable utilities for the various NFT's because that ensures continuous royalties for them.

And the traders would be invested.

And boosting the marketing for the product in order to get that first sale to come out as like as best they can.

So we're.

OK, so where does the brand advertisement meet the customer?

Well.

Well, I was saying fuck advertisement, how can we make money for the holders? That's what I'm saying.

Well, if the money doesn't come from the holders, it has to come from somebody else though.

Well, it's a factory for NFTS, right? So what we do is we we bring in artists.

And we work with them to build projects.

This sounds like this.

With the builder group.

Blockchain.

What's that?

This sounds like the sallana blockchain.

I mean, I was just talking about making a Dow.

That just did this on Ethereum.

Yeah.

Yeah, based off the trading volume and you know basically on it is how they are right now or they're trading cards. So if you can actually do an incentive for you know some sort of game play with the.

Trading volume and then you can.

Well see my thing is like why is every NFT project centralized?

Right.

Well, if you are as technologically advanced, you understand that even if something, I mean essentially the way that people get on to the Internet is centralized.

Well, that's not what I'm saying. Like the projects themselves are almost always run by like, a very few people.

Oht.

And they have exclusive control over everything.

Yes.

Like, well Sir, let's say S what is SBF? Right, he had control over way too much.

Right. It's way too centralized.

And I think these rug projects are examples of projects that are way too centralized.

OK, So what if you divide up that responsibility and ownership among a community?

Share the responsibility of the project and some people have more responsibility for things like marketing. Some people have more responsible responsibility for things like developing and maintaining utilities.

Right, because those are very different tasks and it requires a different kind of person.

Well, how do you divide up the voting for the Dow?

I think that's something that you would kind of have to develop as a group, you know, and in discussion.

Like, you know, OK well.

I'm over here making this leg, but you're you got the finger.

You know, are we all getting the same percentage of it? Don't laugh at me, kick. Come on.

Well, I.

Not as smart as you all, OK?

No, no, no. I I it makes sense for my my thinking. And this is all just theoretical. I haven't done it. It's all just a concept, right? So we have no science or evidence or anything like that?

But the idea is that you would have a group of people who were.

Inclined to build and a group of people who were more inclined to trade right, who they didn't really care about the building stuff so much and the the building people may not care so much about the trading stuff. I personally don't care about trading, I just like to build. And that's what led me to think that that might be a good split, right?

And within each of those groups.

You would have a voting group right that they would vote together on certain things relevant to that specific space, and you would have other things that would be voted on by the entire team, including both groups.

Now the breakdown of what those things are, if I just dictate that.

I don't think that that's very democratic or reasonable, and I I don't.

Hmm.