You. You.

I'm just sending out some more DM's.

Your brother.

You know.

Can you hear me?

From you.

You can't talk.

Umm.

Two, it's on its own.

Hmm.

New purpose color.

Do.

Maybe asked to dream.

That works perfectly.

And we should say.

I love sitting in silence.

No.

Let's see what else member requests.

Yep.

Yo.

Ohh no.

Hey, what's up? Sorry, I just, I was on mute, but I saw the message. I was like, oh shoot, it's pretty late.

Oh, do you think this is like this one? This is when we just get started, bro.

Oh shoot.

Yeah, man.

The.

You know, I'm I'm going to get some Alfredo's.

Some tacos and supernatural right now.

Ha ha ha.

Because King Taco is closed while I'm at.

Where, where? Where you at? What area?

Sangi Arcadia.

Gotcha.

You know, that's all right.

Yeah, yeah.

Yes.

You're like in what? Like near downtown or?

I'm literally in I'm in Hollywood. Like right off a block off La Brea, off the Blvd.

Ohh nice.

No.

Well, we've got our friends there.

The supernatural.

Yes, Sir.

Yep.

Ohh shoot ohh you're in Hollywood? No, I was talking to my to to my wife right now because I was like, because she's talking to me about the Earth, roses and all this. Like, what's gonna happen? Because she didn't know about the project that much. So I recently told her.

And I was like.

You're trying to keep shit under wraps, buddy.

Yeah, well, saying I go was based on like, you know what, what I used to do give you roses and stuff that was like kind of the idea how I, how I, why I got it. She's like, oh, it's pretty cool.

I got you.

Yeah, bro.

But I was thinking about like, how to go about it, right? How to market it and everything. So that's where I've never dealt with with an NFT. So yeah, dude, I mean, if, if, if you wanna, you know what I mean, if I could hire you and you could help me out, we could do that. I don't know if we need anybody else. I don't know how the way this works. Have you ever run a project like this before?

Like NFT project.

No, like this. No, no, this is totally new. But what isn't new is just a matter of like identifying who the market is, like timing wise because this is, it's a seasonal thing, right, at least initially, right. You can do it for like Christmas holidays and birthdays obviously, but like this is the time where like florists and shift gear up for like Valentine's Day, you know what I'm saying? So I don't know what kind of work needs to go into it, but I think we know we have our work cut out for us

Each different feature and then we gotta decide which one it is, which one we want to go with. Because if we can't go one, if we have to do one or the other, that's a really big decision, you know what I'm saying? Like we have to weigh the cost benefit analysis in terms of.

Shit that we wait for the NS rapper, who knows when that's going to come?

Or do we go with the other one, the ESF wrapper?

Because you want to be able to like here's ultimately what I don't see, the way I see it is instead of selling them Sony like I think we rent them.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. We just laced him out.

Yeah. And we give people it's like lease with the option to buy, you know, I'm saying like I use car, like a car.

You can lease it and if you want it, like if you if this went over really really well and you think you can scale this out or whatever, it's like cool. Here's your lease price X amount of dollars X amount a month. This is when your lease is up, smart contract expires, done, done. You said you had devs, right? I mean I have if we need, but do you have.

OK.

Yeah, I have one. Well, we could burn the fuse, right? I mean, it doesn't matter. I mean, if we want to go that route to South.

Yeah.

Ohh yeah. Yeah. No fuss around. We don't have. I don't have an issue with but if we're going to be doing like I have to find like the best platform for us to be able to like lease or rent our rent NFTS on, you know what I'm saying? And that's just like I've never actually like I've never physically done it myself. I know you can do it, but I've never came across the opportunity to do it. I'm kind of excited to do it, but I also don't want this to be the Guinea pig, you know what I mean? Like I w

Right now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What that's The thing is you know bloom and vision, they have the platform to build it out just to make it easier for us. But The thing is once the wrapper comes out they're probably not going to do it right away. So I don't know if I NS registration site you could do it there or I could just build a site. My dev will build it. He just has to look at the wrapper code and he'll he'll do it outright because he's already integrated ENS quickly qualify site as you could see if you connect your walle

So.

So, so that's like a game changer.

Yeah. And if we want to get adapted by like obviously that's the end goal, it's like domain plug vision and the rest of them. But because like obviously like if if if renting and leasing was readily available, they would have rolled it out already. But these guys are so far behind. There's so many different features that it's like, like they can't even add categories fast enough. So I say we have to, we have to build it, but we have to build it with like secure like security has to be like.

Like the the the biggest thing, right because you don't want people connecting their wallets, we wanna do it to where we register like maybe like a dot IO like a web two and we have a dot ETH address right? So we have both of them results. So it doesn't matter where they go, right? Because we want to get the web two crowd right. This could be a great connector to get the the twos to the threes, you know what I'm saying?

Wait, who?

Yeah. I feel like there's no market for it right now. So I don't think they're gonna want to push stuff like this until, you know, this will be like the first case. So this will build the market for it. So I don't see them doing it right.

Wait, would you say that one more time?

No, I said. I I don't see him building it right away because there's no market for the subdomains yet. Once I like this is like the first use case, one of the first.

So this will pop off and see if there's traction that's going then they'll start building out that because because remember they get incentivized from the fees and if there's no fees, they're going to go after what's like the categories.

Ohh you mean vision in them?

Or vision and domain plug. Yeah, they're gonna go after the.

Ohh yeah yeah yeah dude, I'm not even thinking about them. We're gonna blaze the wrong fucking trail bro.

Like we're gonna blaze our own trail. Like I'm telling you like this is this side of the marketing is 100%. What I do. I like my whole thing right now is I like, I can't craft a plan if I don't know like what players are available in order for us to actually lease or rent these. So that's going to be my first step. And the second thing is the dev that you, the dev that you have like, is he good? Like would you feel comfortable right. Like connecting your wallet to something you're def with the o

No, yeah, he's, he's well, he helped me build the qualify and that was from scratch completely a new protocol from scratch.

Yeah.

OK.

OK.

Yeah, he and he integrated ENS on the site too, as well. Quick. He's like, let me look at the code. Yeah, he was good.

Alright.

Alright, cool.

Ohh he doesn't do front end.

Like.

It's just not a front end at all. Like if you look at waterfly, you'll see why. Yeah, he doesn't do. He barely gets by with the front end. It takes him so much time, but he's back.

I can get somebody to do the front end, then we can get like a UI UX person. But in the beginning of music, we need you. I mean we might, let me let's just see how it goes, right. We have to walk through the actual use case, right, like the rather the consumer journey, right. Like what does the consumer side look like? What does that look like on the back end for us, right. What does it look like on our side? And then like what does the consumer seeing like at like at every single point of the l

It's not a huge business. It's not a huge business plan, but we have to create like a business model for this. It's something brand new, bro.

Yeah, exactly what? What?

I really like this though bro. I really, really like it.

So we would have come up with these big pro and CO2.

Where is the ohh? There he is, bro.

I'm talking about. I'm talking to him. He's gonna help me out, hopefully. Actually, I got the keywords for you, WAVY.

With with my other company because I bailed on my on my last one. They were just they. We finished the contract for the CEO, but he's good on SEO.

But it's amazing.

Yeah, she's yeah, he gives that SEO alpha. I didn't even think of domain names actually being used for SEO in the future.

You own.

Ohh, domain names.

Yeah.

Yeah, like like SEO Q words like these domains. He was saying these domains are SEO keywords so you'll get ranked up to the top, you know if they're like body and it would just be like another section, but you'll probably be like in the first or second page. That's mind blowing. Imagine owning owning a keyword.

Yeah.

Like, we can't own them now, we have to pay for them or we have to like, you know, we have to pump the SEO keywords just to get them.

That's crazy. Morning, Sir.

OK.

Hey, just on the UX UI front end, so I don't code front end and I don't design, but all of the wireframing and all of the flow and onboarding, that's that's my Forte bro. Like with it because it goes hand in hand and so when we're thinking or when you're thinking about a plan and if it's something new for sub domains and I kind of agree with you Stony, like sub domains.

I don't really. You know subdomains in web two you tend to use sparingly, right?

Um, so in Web 3, not only the web two guys are like, hey, what's all this sub domain business in web three about? Like we use them sparingly in web two and then there's this whole narrative in Web 3 for sure. There needs to be a lot of education and we need to wait for everyone to catch up and knowing and devs and engineers, they aren't, you know, like they want to code shit. That's either fun for them. That doesn't make money. Literally. That's what they love doing in their enterprise.

Right. Or in this case, they don't want to code unless it does actually make money. So you got the right thinking. You don't. They're they're they're, they're liking the wrong type of business.

It's still fucking funny.

So like what? The front end. If you can get a front end dev and a a proper designer, most of the work they'll do is gonna be literally it. It'll be they'll be presented with a finished wire frame and the different templates that will be required, what the onboarding journey will look like, where the conversion elements will be, checkout flow and what have you. And then bang, it's done man.

And from a design perspective, dude. Like having design standards from web two, like Airbnb and Web three. This isn't difficult. Like the palettes, the wireframe, the responsive layouts. They're all 10A penny now, dude.

Really.

Hmm.

Yeah, really. That's so like, I'm working, so I'm working in travel, right?

And some of the businesses I work for have had, you know, one €200 million worth of funding.

And I kid you not, when I'm doing a deep dive competitive landscape piece where I'm looking at hotels in New York and I look at the top ten landscape for Google. And then I literally do a Columbo investigation on each template and page. When I look at my, what I call competitor Matrix, you see on the matrix that uh-huh, all of these guys have got common modules or there's a common DNA to the to the template and the framework of the page.

Nothing unique.

Yep.

I'm honestly dude. Like when you if you're our age and you've lived web from like it's infancy of receiving a disc in the post for AOL dial-up.

There ain't shit that you, you you like. There's nothing in web 3.

Really. That I don't think I've seen in one way, shape or form like you. You kind of know what I mean, right?

Yes, 100,000 fucking percent.

Yes, and I I think you between us we got it covered.

And then on on the sub domain stuff, it is all about UX dude. Like when the UX is super fucking clean and you just make that that experience super easy. This can be a good car list for at least getting a little bit of momentum going when we have no momentum on subdomains like you were saying tiny like.

If they don't feel inclined to create a sub wrapper right now, someone else will create you.

But then people will be like 5050. Some of them, they're going to be. I'll wait for the official rapper to come out.

Well.

If yeah.

And so, but then one other thing, Dave, I was going to say was trust messaging. So like when I worked in Web 3, the big thing about contracts was getting your contracts audited.

So like if the contract, whoever creates it, could be audited by someone like certic, which I think we can schedule in advance, then at the minute it's approved and they've confirmed that the contract is legit. Like this can be huge for as a catalyst for just getting people to willingly connect and yeah, they're all happy.

Just mother.

Correct.

Yo, so really quickly that that, you know, that's fucking genius, bro. How long does this? I know that it's. But search is kind of looked at as like well, I mean we're not, we're not handling like ridiculous sums of money over here. But like when you're talking about an actual renting of an NFT, right. And act like that actual contract, you want that to be solid. Where like if somebody cracks that, then it's like, but it's roses. Like we're not taking anybody else's NFT, right? Like their hours,

I think.

No, we could do it first in the house on our own stuff, right?

Yeah.

Exactly. And I think like look, if the worst thing that happens is we lose a couple of NFT's and testing, right. Like who gives a shit like this is it's literally from scratch right now. And we don't even have. Yeah, this is going to be we can really do something with this. So let me just, let's pause for a second. And Stony I know that you dude, you're the idea, man, with this stuff. I don't know how the fuck you came up with this, but like I don't know we talk about Hallmark. I don't know what

What else is there like this that's this exact that could be this exact model right now?

That we can, yeah.

I've already told you, well it goes pretty technical, but NFT licensing that's when you have the sub domain and you you attach the file IP FS file of let's say my muted.

And I sell the sub domain for a certain amount of period, so then there's a contract embedded in the DNS records as well, and the tech workers section saying that, hey, this community can't be used for this, this is what you're signing. You can't do for malicious, whatever, blah blah blah. Everything's there. The DNS record registration is like a tool. So literally I'm just leasing out.

My artwork NF IP license and I'm letting ENS to the registration for me.

Yeah, but why would we?

Bro that's fucking film. And really Stony man really reads like cause I've got rent me out or east right? And it was purely for this purpose of knowing that we will be able to create. I envisage a very simple smart contract. Where are you thinking? Come in, select an NFT refined by collection and rent it either for a month, a day, a couple of hours and it's 100% smart.

That's it.

Page.

Contract fluid, there's literally nothing for you to do other than, uh, obviously put your NFT's into the rental pool. But like that, you know, just the concerns like again, like from what we hear in the whole landscape at the moment is a lot of these pools get hacked. So like it just comes back down to security again.

Well, that that's why. But, but.

But it's but it's ours. It's our NFTS.

Ohh yeah yeah, no, I know, I know. I'm just thinking.

But using ENS, that's the difference is that that's the difference using ES, so people have to go to ENS domain site, so that's what makes it even better.

Yeah, but you're giving up a Rev stream. No, I get it like ease of use ability, which maybe we just, like, have to think about, but like, why would we get, like, think about how much money NS makes off the fucking registrations?

Why wouldn't we use that? Why wouldn't we do that?

You can, but I I feel like if we can use it for now, use their protocol and then piggyback off of them so that way they're trusted people will be they're going there anyway.

No, you can't. Do you know what you can you can build a protocol in top of the DNS name protocol. So let's say to request the restoration to register some name. OK, it has to be a requested, but the protocol will be built in purple. This is done actually by a guy. I know him well, I don't remember specific name, but I remember in this space in some developer space it was talking about this. And hey, good morning to everyone this morning here Phil.

Good morning, Elsa.

So what he did is he was using actually he was building his own protocol where or actually the smart contract he was building an income of ENS smart contract. So when every time the client or the customer want to buy a domain name.

More.

Is actually blocked to the DNS domain, to to, to the UI and also to the smart contract. And it's kind of like requesting all the data was happening, which name is 2, taking which name is not, which name is available and so on. So kind of flew he was blocking there and he's getting actually 2023 or 24%.

It's, yeah.

Like, yeah, see.

The guy was money, yeah.

It's literally like the person. It's literally the person doing it and him being at the door be like, no, no, I'm sorry, here, give it to me and I'll go do it for you. And then he goes, he goes like, he's like, OK, now it's at $27.00 please. What?

That's business, bro.

Bro.

Yeah. And, you know, the fees is not that big. So kind of like it doesn't take attention a lot. You know, like that was smart. They didn't put 50% or 80. No, he was putting 2324%. And then you fucking genius guys. Or I said, I love this guy, but yeah, I mean, it's done and it's doable. You know, anyone can dump that.

That's it. That is it right there. Like that's exactly what you have to do. But in this case, so also, I know you came a little bit late, but you kind of get the gist of what we're doing with the roses and everything else. Well, we Stony this is your call, yeah.

Yeah.

I got the idea. I got the idea what you're doing. I got the idea, yeah.

Yes, Tony, it's not my. Yeah, I don't want, it's not my place to say. I don't know how comfortable you feel or whatever, but your call, I'll delete this recording, by the way, if you want me to.

No, yeah, keep it recording. No, I posted up top the wallet fine. That's the one. That's the. My dev did the back end from scratch so it was based on the DNS protocol. We.

Need to build on NS, but he told me specifically, if we do that, we have to depend on ENS. Uh, metadata refresh, he goes. It's not gonna workout. Especially when the rapper comes. You're gonna get into problems.

Hmm.

So I didn't use the DNS protocol to do build subdomains to prove ownership of NFTS. So he built an outright protocol for me. We built it together.

So that's it. I would love to get that by Surgic, but that's the guy that's gonna actually work on this sub domain site. It's just that front end is going to be a pain.

How much is sertic?

I don't know how much does that weigh me to get sertec to come in here.

I know nominees um if I remember correctly, I think you need a budget of like 7 to 10 KUS.

Not bad.

Uh, yeah. So that's normally what they and then there's normally also a delay. There's a way.

Yeah.

And because a lot of people are trying to get obviously their contracts and validate.

More than 30 days cause I know trailer bits is like six months.

Honestly dude, I don't know whether my ex boss was bullshitting the community or not. So like I I'd almost say go and go back to sleep validated. It always felt like huh? Like if the contract was that easy bus like surely, surely contract ain't taking like 8 weeks man to get done and I'm like.

Yeah, there's nothing in there that intricate about it.

Leaving.

You know what I mean? And and he kept saying ohh the contracts are easy part man. We just need to flick the switch and put it onto main there. And I'm like bro bro, I'm like I get that the community aren't devs man. But like yeah the the delay seems to be a bit suspicious now it's almost like you don't have the contract ready you know it's it's just funny I can read between the lines.

We were here is the news for you. Look here is the news. So now we have been week ago we started with my friend. We are developing our machine learning algorithm to identify and to find loops or any gap.

Is.

And any smart contract to make it a bank bounty you know and we was given a test to to it you know like it took us almost a week to build this whole infrastructure for it and this was given tests with ten different people from 10-8 smart contract with fucking easy able to be compromised I said shit man this is not so simple like come on we can make more than now and then now I'm planning.

Hold on one second.

Thanks for having me up. Thanks for having me up.

Like things to take things next level apparently trying to make it more accessible to the people only specific people I know so where you can actually start doing bank controller even actually in this also have this program but I mean there is a really huge gap where one of the people I know, one of my friends, he made I think 380 K only on fixing one function. You know it was even the developers itself they couldn't know how to to.

Also.

Put it together, but there is a huge gap there, you know?

Also, I'm checking out your profile. It's really cool. You may come out adverse or what is it?

So.

Sorry, I didn't hear what you said.

You make the metaverse what you are, like a developer.

I don't know. I don't make any metaverse. No, I mean we are in the metaverse already. Not joking.

I feel like I'm in the metaverse. Yeah, exactly, bro. That's that's what I've been seeing.

I'm kidding enough.

What's up, buddy?

Delete.

I'm. I'm making AI and machine learning like from scratch, you know?

Ohh that's crazy. OK I came in mid convo. I was just looking at, I'm looking at your I'm a little base but I'm looking at your profile and I'm going how how can I figure out what this guy does. So you're talking some heavy shit and I'm like oh interesting you know and then we would just ask you what do you do bro? Like I can't understand I'm looking word you're saying right now.

Love it.

Yeah, like, I mean I I did create a machine learning for investigation purposes for doing some like good things to the people and.

Like that, yeah.

Do anything with Brenda Ohh. Like what? Sexually? What are what are we talking about?

That's that's also telling you if he tells you, he's going to have to fucking kill you.

I wonder what you're doing if it was random number generators at all.

All right, yo.

But yeah.

So, so let's talk about this like, let's let's finish. Either finish this thing, put it to bed somehow, but.

If we're gonna do this right, So what are we saying that we need? We need a front. You said front end, right? We need an audit.

Uh, huh.

We just need to have one one designer, one front encoder and an audit for the contract.

OK.

I've got a front end guy. He's excellent. He's cheap, but he may be very, very busy. But I would refer him on my legs.

Well, this is the problem you see.

I don't. I will not tell you who I am, though. No, I might.

No, no, no. All good. But I was gonna say good front end devs that you know that you don't need to educate on a responsive layout.

This guy's cracked. This guys cracked. He's cracked.

Yeah, that the guys like they're so busy and it's so hard to just get a really good dev with complete common sense that would.

Do you know why? Because if the smart ones are like, oh, I'm going to work for myself.

That's it. That this is the thing, because I used to be the same as a dev. So like today, if I'm going to code and I'm going to be paid for it, most projects you're just gonna you're gonna be a McDonald's order taker. You'll take the instructions if they instruct you to create and code something stupid and you've told them no.

Wrong. Whoa. It's all in the instructions in the paper you write.

It doesn't matter. I'm gonna code that shit. And when you don't work, I'm gonna say, well, you told me to code it like that's what you wanted, that's what you asked for. And then the code knows that I create this a bit hacky. So I'll. I'll keep them on retainer for the next six weeks, right?

Gun.

So, like getting good devices, it's yeah, when you got one, you need to hold on to that shit for sure.

Yeah.

Homeboys talking about sexual things. I don't know what the fuck that dude was talking about at certain points and was like, yeah.

Yep.

I think the smartest way to do it is always higher to them. One is reading, one is writing because it's really, really important. You know, even me like a year ago where I was just doing like stuff around, I saw how much was important to ask someone else opinion what they think about the smartphone, right? Or that I'm working on. And I saw that even many big NFT projects, they don't hire 1 developer always they have to. One is reading, one is writing and that is actually one of the most.

Smartest step that you can take it's because you know there are many. I could say gaps and to some developers they see things differently and then and others so is he will help you. But for your project I think you need to just only them for blocking the smart contract.

To the end. And so we can just charge the fees and tumble with dinner kind of play that. That would be the smartest way to do it.

So let me ask you guys this question, right, because like, yo Sony, like the merch idea, the drop shipping like that, that's all stuff that can be done so quick. Like, if you have no idea, it's so easy. It's like very, very minimal cost and like there's stupid profit margins in that stuff. What would you guys pay to rent one of these things out?

For a day, a week, a month, whatever.

Or buy it outright.

I want you mean rent wait. Can can you can you please just define that to me?

Like, like rent it, right? Like, what is this? Like, what are we creating here? Right? It's going to be an FT with a dozen roses. It's going to be customized to ultimately.

Your girlfriend, right? Your mom, your sister. It's like you're buying a bouquet of flowers for a loved one, no matter who they are. So with this, it's going to be there's no, the utility is. It's a dozen fucking roses in an as an emoji. Can we give it more utility? I'm sure. But I think, like to get it off the ground initially, it's just going to be look, we got Valentine's Day right around the corner. Why not capitalize?

How much would you pay to rent it out? So you rent out the NFT and then you send it to whoever you'd like, right? It's written in the smart contract logic. Look, they rented it out for this much. They get ahead if they rented out for a day, a week or whatever, right? They send somebody the NFT. Right now, this obviously has to deal with. It's a probably a smaller market, but I don't think it's as small as we think just because of the names and what people might be able to see with it. So what To

Or like lease to buy?

You know what I'm saying? Because people are gonna be like, wait, if there's just a limited or finite supply of.

Like first names.

What the fuck? I gotta I'm gonna register these because I'm gonna keep it. I'm. I always want to send these to my wife, you know?

So that's the the short of it.

Yeah, that's that's where you know, I mean, I I'm gonna be posting about it no matter what. People are actually wanna hop in the spaces now they're like ohh you're the roses guy this soon.

So it's gaining traction because it, you know, it is like one of the one of the few use cases of suddenly utility.

But.

The registration part of that. What's up, Doctor Booth? Go ahead.

GMGM.

That's a duck.

Chair.

Yeah, I was sleeping first of all first names there. I was doing it before a few days after German space and I was going in the top 50 of first names in every country and there was a lot of stuff free to register only this for the first names. But before I forget this word, is this the stuff here from the NS Twitter account with?

Grabbing up to 150 NS token. What is this?

What?

Were you on the on the NS Twitter account?

What happened?

What is it?

Yeah, I would pin it up at it. It it seems so fucking suspicious. Like, man, I was thinking 20 times, bro, what is this? It? Is it is it real?

Boobs. Did you message eh or not and talk shit about me?

Why is he writing me a message saying you said that I said something?

Positive vibes only, bro.

Are you really writing him, saying that I said something?

I I didn't talk of ether honor. What what you saying, bro?

Positive vibes only. If we want to discuss something, I think we have to start like let's say 4 weeks earlier, bro.

You.

Who do that shit, you stupid Sony.

You know, if you want to discuss something, you can. If you don't, you don't have to obviously. Like whatever it is, I think I never wanted discussion in front of other people. I think if there's an issue between two people.

Like, y'all gotta discuss it between yourselves. But you know, 100% of your call, guys. Totally your call.

No, no, we take it offline, dude.

OK, my brother.

OK.

Uh.

Cool.

What are you, what are you talking about? The 150 bucks? Like what are you referring to?

The NS Twitter account I will check.

Then post it up top.

Yeah.

Ohh.

We got meta.

What's up, Vanessa?

I'm not sure if you do.

So Dave, is your question was how much you should rent?

Yes, correct.

Rent it, right. Is that what's the technical question? OK. Well, I mean I was thinking, hmm, I mean what comes to my mind I think should be based on the user case, like for what is going to be used based on that, that will be actually being charged. Because let's say I don't know if the client or the, let's say the person who want to rent it is not just only for holding it, but if they're going to do some stuff with it, you know. So based on that, I guess should be based on the category or whate

Of the user cases there. So that's kind of where I'm thinking it will.

Be more interesting approach. So it shouldn't be kind of fixed price should be actually optional based on the user cases that will bring more value I think. I know that's what comes to my mind.

But.

What do you guys?

Yeah, no, that makes sense. But like how much? Like how much like per day?

What do you guys think about .01?

For what? Per day?

Definitely for sure.

I agree.

I think, I think you guys need to know that Elsa is advanced AI and he should not be let into your ear. Wave ears and brain waves. Watch out, here he is Google. He is dull, dull Lee, he is Crayon AI.

Theory, Alexa. He's all of them.

He's all of them.

The.

I would think this is a compliment. I would think this is a compliment. Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, I'm this is foreplay. I'm just teasing. I'm just, you know, I I know how to push his digital buttons, you know? Yeah, I I don't know how well you guys know also already. But yeah, Legend of Legends, good bloke. I mean, good AI, very good AI.

Ohh.

Thank you man. But but you know the price what comes like if you compare here right now and that's what they do is for 12 month, 12 month period time period. So I am thinking should be similar like I have a six month you know like starting from six months not on daily basis kind of like your forcing what is the first thing word is the correct one like kind of like not to allow people to get out easier technically because you know.

Hmm.

No, I wanna turn it over faster. That's the thing. Also with this, I want it to be transactional. I wanna turn it over and over and over and over, right. They should be churning money if I'm not.

Yeah, that's that's smart. That's smart, yeah.

That was very clever.

Yeah, that's the way you make money, you know what I'm saying? Yo, guys, each part just got listed on Coinbase. Holy shit.

Oh shoot, let me see.

Yeah.

First of all, before I pin this shit up here, it's don't click this, yeah.

Why don't pin it up if you don't want us to click it? What is it?

It's a good example to talk about, bro. It's a it's an ENS account with 15,000 followers. I don't know, a lot of activity.

It's crazy buying, buying the followers, making a lot of content and then ragging, ragging the people out. OK, then I don't pin it up there.

What does that have to do with anything where we were asking about the 150 bucks?

Yes, this is man. This is from from an ENS official fake account.

What?

Look, what the fuck are you talking about? Is it from an official account or is it from an official fake account?

Fake account.

OK, so in essence, it's nothing.

But nobody knows until the point to click. You know, I'm not clicking any kind of links, but yeah man, it's that I don't pin it up.

No, don't. Don't put it up. Don't put it up. Don't put it up.

Let's see.

But only to teach because the account is not like the easy, easy peasy fake account like before, yeah?

OK.

Do you want to read it out loud?

I can't read that much out loud. It's only like there's a lot, a lot of fucking content. Yeah, there was spaces from this account, bro.

Umm.

Alright, just post it. Just post it and it up. Let me look at it.

Crazy. Really crazy.

Just just no one click on it.

It's a Twitter account.

Yeah, first of all, it's a Twitter account. This is OK.

That's fine, just don't click anything other than the Twitter account.

Umm.

Man, crazy. Really. OK, here. Now it's getting dangerous.

Ohh no, take that off.

Ohh yeah. No no no no no no no no no no fucking way.

No fucking way.

Nope.

Yeah, yeah bro, I know. But man, if you take a look to the account, it's crazy.

Nope. That's exactly what they do. They do that for every fucking project. They did it for board apes, they did it for Chico and Rico, Chico and Roco. They did it. It's all the same. You go to the site, they have the mint, you click on it, you essentially sign the fucking transaction like a rookie, and then they drain your whole shit. Yo, what's up also?

Yes.

It's the same one.

Yep.

Yeah, that that's scam. That's 100% scam. So yeah, I want to add something now. OK, now I'm just all the time thinking how we should like to create this renting mechanism. I'm thinking should be on, let's say minimalizing that to to three days to week like the minimum time period with based on the digit number or is going to be actually alphabet, like let's say if it's digit number with three numbers, OK, it should be at least I think $80.00 for three days, you know?

Bad.

Whoa, 88 zero.

What?

Yeah, yeah, 80 if it's because right now, currently NSENS, if you want to register a number with the three digit or with the three alphabet, it will cost you around $400.00. So kind of like you're below them like almost over 200%. So we have to think technically how we can actually take the attention from the public, right, like the first if you want to make a rental domain name. So you have to think, OK, three days, one week, less than one week.

It could be if you wanted to kind of flip people to put like to take it for a long time, $100 hundred $20.00 because right now it's already. I don't know, that's how it comes to my mind or maybe the price is too high, I think.

Crazy.

No. Also, that's crazy, bro. No, well, we'll price ourselves right out of the market, bro.

Hmm.

You know what I'm saying?

Like what? What is what is the starting price you have been thinking of? Do you have any idea?

For one.

Well, that's the thing. That's what we're trying. Like, here's the thing, right? What is the in order to find the starting price?

Yeah.

Wait.

Right. We have to kind of figure out how is somebody gonna use it? Is it just gonna be for an initial thought where you send it to someone, they check it and that's it? Is there going to be something else there? Yeah.

Yeah wait wait, no, no such thing. Like if if he's ENS is charging people for three digit or for three alphabet domain for the year over $400.00 OK, so that's mean.

Yeah, but.

Yeah, but.

If it's if we divide that to three times, so that's OK. So if we make it for a week, for a week less than $20 or something like this, you know kind of like like kind of like the price will be low as much as possible.

Hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Hmm.

You know what you need it for that. It's going to be like honestly, we can give people the option if they want to get it sooner than later. But if you think of Valentine's Day, these are going to be sub domains, right? That's it. With the, with the, with the A female or a male's first name in front of it, right. And what the thing that you're going to do with it is, if you have something, you're going to send it to that person. Whether you're going to send it early, you're going to send it on th

Yeah, so OK, there's a problem. My girlfriend, she, she have to be a degen and a TV. Otherwise, if I was in that to my wife, she said, what the fuck is this? Yeah, what the hell they are saying to me, right? I mean, we have to know the difference.

Yeah.

Hmm.

That's the point. That's the point, that's the point. But if it's free to create the fucking sub domain, then even if it's 5 bucks, it's just the gesture. It's a fucking gag. It's a what? It's 5 bucks. It's 5 bucks. Like, who gives a shit?

Exactly and the and it's quantity.

Yeah, I know exactly. I know that you're right. The the amount, the amount of the funds, what you're charging is also has impact. Yeah, I know what you mean. You're playing psychology game there, smart.

No, bro. Thank technology game, bro. That's business, baby. That's one-on-one type shit.

In business, yeah.

Like love your brain.

We come from two different worlds, my boy.

You know, that's business 101.

Yeah.

But yeah, seriously, if I was in that to my wife, she was hold on, what the fuck you're saying to me? And darling, you know, this is called the domain name, you know?

But also think about this. This could be something right? What Stony fell upon is something that can literally help bridge the gap between web two and web three. Or at least start a conversation because he sends it to his wife who? Alright, she has some etherium and some Bitcoin. Ohh. I show my friends. It's nice, it's cute. My husband bought some for me. You know what my husband also bought me? He bought me a dozen roses. He sent them to me digitally. What do you mean? Well here look. And they

Dot row twelve dozen roses dot E.

No.

Like.

So we can.

Yeah, this conversation should be public on social media platforms. Like, I mean, Tiktok right now is the most common kind of the way you can interact. Like, yeah, you bring that attention from the public.

Let's see, does your girl have Instagram? That's the thing. Remember Instagram? You could actually read the collection. Now you could show off your NFT collection.

Yeah.

Yeah, but that's a little too much. I mean, that's a big assumption for us. Like let's just go with the assumption that they don't have anything but just the basic wallet. Like what if we were to include some sort of, not utility, but if we build the site around like, let's, let's come up with some sort of like cool gimmick where it's like, I don't know, we embed something in there and they put in a code or I don't know what it gives them as they can go to the website and it gives them a message

And then like if you actually go to, if you actually go to the dot E, we have it resolved and we like register one on like the web two side, right, with DNS right, whatever we register like it doesn't matter, they click on that link and then it goes to like a custom message and it's like a digital card but it's roses and a card.

Not too good idea.

You know it is.

I like it.

I like it a lot yo doc.

Has his hand up.

Yeah. I don't know why.

First of all, why 12 roses bro? Is there something special behind?

Wait, do we what?

Are we the only ones that do it? Dozen roses in America, you know, how many roses do you buy when you buy roses for your wife?

Well, I am in Germany.

I yeah, I know how many roses you buy in Germany.

For what?

For a birthday for Valentine's Day.

One it's the cheapest.

Yeah, I know it's the cheapest, but if you were to buy more, how many would you buy 37?

There's no special number in Germany, to be honest.

You've never heard of a dozen roses before?

That's interesting.

Ohh.

All but the color.

Is it? Doesn't. I know. Yeah, of course it's. It's here in Europe too. But not not connected with roses, to be honest. Sorry for that, yeah.

I love how he's. I love how he's making me think like I'm fucking crazy. He's like ohh yeah it doesn't roses. It's here in Europe too. He fucking guy.

No, there's no there's no White Rose emoji, is there? I haven't even checked the keypad.

Bro I checked it.

I don't know, I will check later bro, but first of all please answer my question.

What?

I wanna confuse you all to to look it up in the in the backyard. No. OK, there is the special meaning those roses. This is special in America.

Yeah.

Yeah.

OK, for me, in my eyes, bro, I hate to to buy wheel flowers. Yeah, man, this is like after three days, you can put it in the garbage. And it it costs a lot of money. Even at Valentine's Day, I have to pay you up to $5 per rose. Yeah, so the idea first, to be honest, first look. Oh, man.

Emojis yeah, but after your video after.

A lot of some brainstorm. It's a wonderful idea, bro. Really it's it's, it's very nice. And I wanna have it for my wife too because then I can never forget her again. Yeah. Or only imagine on the way like one hour drive to to a birthday Fox. The birthday present. Yeah, yeah. Then you can buy it fast as soon as possible in front of the door. Yeah, very nice, very nice. And I was listening to something like with a R.

AI this would be additionally, of course, very crazy, yeah?

Ohh.

That actually would be.

Like like it you're you're, you're gifting and then you can make a photo with a digital 12 roses then in the hand. Yeah like like and and then tweeted out.

Ohh.

Ohh.

Oh my God bro yo, holy shit. We weren't even talking about AI for this fucking project. We were talking about something completely different. But that's fucking Gee. No ohh is good bro. Because the situation is stunning. If we like, I know it's an AI, but if we know that like we tell an AI, hey draw draw a Vaz, right? Or draw a scene that you know what I'm saying? Like draw like whatever it is and the person opens it up, that's a fucking wow factor in the.

Path when you're just talking to a fucking AI and they create this entire scene for you to put your roses into and we create like an animation that like takes all the roses and.

Holy fuck.

Work.

But then it's the premium, those roses.

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Yeah. Where where is Elsa? He left.

2.

Ohh bro, he went and see that's it. Also taking the idea he's gone, he did the dip.

Yeah.

Motherfucker.

He's minting the 12, uh, white roses right now.

He's meeting the 12 white, yeah.

Yeah.

Yo bro, that's fucking crazy.

Well, even just putting the metadata of image you want, right?

Yeah.

Of the person you're gonna give it to.

Yeah, anything but like the bro, I love the IT take like the actual the actual site, the actual dot E domain resolves somewhere like it goes to a website with a message, a custom message from the person that sent it to you.

Boom.

And then we can do Oh my God bro.

Ohh God.

Don't touch yourself, please.

Well, it's too late. It's too late. It's too late.

Motherfucker bro. This is.

It's gonna consume my headspace now, man.

Yeah.

Well this is pretty cool because this is paving the way of how sub domains are going to be utilized. Right on the registration fee and everything.

Good. What's this?

It just so happens that this is like the easy this is the easiest money grab on the fucking planet.

That's not my goal, but you know.

I mean.

It's a nice benefit.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's it's just it's just being innovative with the sub domain. But The thing is from this you're going to get more utility and memberships or whatever else like I said and FT licensing part.

By the artwork to the sub domain and you could.

Literally rent out the IP license to someone else.

For a duration of time like six months or some.

You know, you know what I realized, bro?

Sorry, let me think about this for a second.

Do you have these real life rose Cellars walking around everywhere in party areas and all of this?

Real life what?

Yeah, in the corners of the streets.

Yeah OK OK because man here in Germany it's a huge where you can make a meme out of it but nobody in Germany knows what is serum and the NSF. But do you want to buy roses is a quote in Germany from I don't know it's it's a lot of comedian stuff behind man that this would be so crazy. Yeah it's very nice man 12 rose I want to where I can buy a sent me the link please.

Yeah, exactly.

I need it for the next birthday for my wife. I know it.

Hmm.

Because I forget again and OHS.

Well, that's The thing is, you could do it now, but it's gonna be with ESF.

I don't know how that's gonna play out. When the original, when when the main rapper comes up, it's like, do you migrate it? I mean, I don't know if I have to give.

I have to literally give approval rights to SF for the domain so he could sub domain.

Yeah.

Well, no.

So technically it's like an honor system, but you're gonna have them on the show, right?

Well, I yeah, yeah, I guess that's the tricky part. But hold on. You know what I'm saying? Send your guy what's happening.

Would it be? Would it be champ? What up? Eat roses?

Hello. What's up?

Chilling. What's good, bro? Where you jumping around from account to account?

In as well. What's up?

I'm just yeah, yeah, yeah, it's me. I'm just trying to.

Build it, you know, build it up a little bit too.

I.

Yeah, yeah. So some of these accounts I try to build up with the DNS domain so that I can sell it as a bundle, but this might be just my backup in case I ever sell me and as well. So I'm not sure yet. I'm just kind of just playing around with the different accounts, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ohh OK.

Yeah.

And then you TV also. So, but just be careful bro, because I was literally about to kick you out the room without even talking to you. Because I did that in the last room. And some people might call me crazy for it, but like there's certain accounts that were just started right and they look like fake accounts and they just go from account from room to room and all they want to do is just listen to ideas and just go snake the ideas and go fuck it and they go back to the big money guys and then t

Yeah, for sure. I try to, I try to put it in my bio, but yeah, I got you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But good. I mean, that's why I invited you up. I was like, this person comes up cool if they dip, alright, I'll need to fucking Nix the account. But you know, I'm saying.

Yes, Sir.

Dude, my man.

You get installed text by the way or tech installed whatever I sent you back.

My man.

Look.

I did, brother. Thank you, man. That was that's a that's a good one, man. I was already thinking about the subdomains that I could put on it, but nice pickups on on your end too.

Girl, fucking money money thing. I I registered the the app and the DAP one. I forgot I I wanted to register the like I was supposed to register genies, but I registered genie and I never went back for the one. I think it got taken. But Genies if you remember was the that's the company that former Disney CEO Bob Iger essentially went to. As far as like a metaverse is like a metaverse like where like you essentially customize your avatar wearables like a whole like.

To do but it was, yeah. Gee, I don't know if you knew that, but it's genie or genies.

No, I didn't even know that, but uh.

Yeah, bro.

Nice.

That's that's shit. That's a solid name right there. And then someone I think picked up Digi friends, I think I put it out out there in Twitter and the tweets a couple days ago. So it's good. It's looking good now. People are, you know, picking them up. They seem to have value. So let's spread it.

You know, listen to me next time you have something like that, right? Like, like check, like check in with somebody and get giving back to the community. But the way you can profit off it individually, right, is there's now auctions or like some sort of like sell your domain here, deal going on probably every day of the fucking week. Like everybody's getting into the game to the point where I'm listening to all of it. I'm just like, I could do it so much better than everybody else here that I mi

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. OK. OK.

You can ultimately do something like that where it's like, man, if I can go auction this stuff off, you have the idea, throw it up there on the auction, see if it goes, you know what I'm saying? Obviously, like, don't wait to buy it or purchase it. Like, you know, if you can't get it, then like align with somebody else, you know what I'm saying? And be like, yo, this is my approach. Yeah, bro.

I mean I got about 90 of them if anybody wants to you know talk to me on the back channels but.

That's what's up.

Yeah.

Hmm.

Yeah, I mean, I guess initially the way I was trying to do it, it's already made an impact. So, you know, going forward, it doesn't have to be that way. But most definitely if somebody's looking for a name they've got like, you know, they got writers block or whatever, then definitely tap into me and I'll try to hook it up.

You know I'm my man. Good shit.

And by the way, you might be here. They might mistake your identity for gay man, AKA or yeah, you might be.

It's actually inspired. It's inspired by the way men believe it or not.

I love it. I love it. I love it.

Um, if he, if he was ever interested in it, you know, I'm saying, I mean, who knows where it would go, but.

Yeah.

Right now it's just kind of a backup but.

Yeah, you know, just trying to get get a feel for it right now in the community and definitely the feedback that you gave me right now, it plays, it'll play a part in that.

For sure. Are you still working with community manager with Talkspace or NFT talk?

Um I'm an ambassador forum. But um it's nothing paid. It's just out of my own free time. So anytime I I do come come into a space if if it's like something I'm I'm hosting I will talk about that you know and then I actually you and I had a conversation not too long ago about talking to Kabir about the podcast radio.

Yep.

And yeah, I did bring it up to him and it was exactly like how I I I had it.

Like envisioned it right. He's more of a web two picking up web 2 domains and he's already secured all of the other stuff. But he's not really into interested in anything web three. And I said, yeah, you know, I understand that, but I'm not trying to sell it to you. I'm just trying to partner with you so we can develop on it. So he's, he's put it on into you know, into his.

On the shelf for now, but.

Interesting.

Now he's actually trying to develop an education platform for for web.

3 certification and everybody who's a part of the NFT talk space is going to help them try to develop that as well.

Really.

That's interesting.

Yes, Sir.

That is very interesting.

And I actually got a couple of those web 3 domains too. So, um, there's another web three domain platform called E DNS and they sell a dot web.

Alright, yeah dot is it dot web. I believe it's Web and I got GIT certified dot web.

And I also picked up Latino dot music.

But it's all on Polygon so I have yet to see it really take off. Some people thought it was a it was kind of a scam because they air dropped a bunch of dot web was it dot meta extensions to people who had already ENS domains and people were like why are you sending us this? So I did a little research and and they are legit but a lot of people were kind of thrown off by it and didn't really like the way they got the AirDrop.

And the other thing I would say on the domains is from an SEO perspective, if the extension doesn't rank in Google, they have zero value. And really it comes down to adoption because we've seen this in Web 2 for years when they released a whole bunch of hey, you can have dot ABC, dot XYZ dot AIO, whatever extension you want in the web two world, we were like, hmm, in the end like as a brand you have to make a decision.

You go and buy all those extensions and what have you. And the judgment we normally make in House is if Google doesn't rank the extension, we don't care for it. So unless we see adoption from Google from an indexation perspective, they have 00 value. And that's why the first Test for me on dot Earth is to check does it index and does it get ranked? If yes, big tick value will come. If no, OK, don't waste your time or maybe you're super, super early.

But on the other domains I don't. On the other extension types I don't see it happening.

Yeah, I agree. It's going to take some time.

But I'm I am bullish on the ENS for sure, and I always.

I keep developing and keep picking up names, but definitely the keyword ranking with Google Now is a is a big move forward for ENS, so I'm bullish.

What's up, boobs?

I wanted to say and did you see the guy? This was interesting for me cause of first names. The guy with the three digits who want to um.

Trade with first names like.

Ohh yeah, I saw that. That's fucking crazy.

That's crazy. It's interesting, though. It's interesting.

I don't know who who is in a better position, to be honest. Yeah.

Well, it's it's a matter of money now versus money later. So above is referring to like somebody said he was willing to trade 2-3 digits, right. So what do you think that's about like 65060 E, right, for like the like one or the more like a Michael dot E Steven dot E, right. Those aren't going to fetch you 60 E right now. Maybe they could.

But I think 2 Ian, I mean.

I think you can get pretty quick, pretty quickly. You can get out of 2-3 digits for 25 eighth piece. So yeah, it was it. What were the other names? It was like Steven, Michael, John James, yeah.

James Michael.

OK.

Even and to others, yeah, but I think for the long term, man, we wanna be names and not numbers.

I mean, sure.

Like, like let's say we have really, um, the richest Michael on Earth. Yeah, he he wanna have Michael dot E and not 00. Yeah, maybe additionally. Yeah. But, but at first I don't know do we really wanna. OK, Mr 184 this is.

And I don't know, do you want to really be forever 184 for the rest of your life?

No, no 184 is here.

No, I can switch it up. I don't have to be 184 for the rest of my life, but I also don't need to be there for the rest of my life. Ohh.

My bad.

Yes.

True.

Hey, uh, hey everybody. Can you post up that that link? Because I have about 30 odd names and let's say let's say 10 out of the 30 top names, and I am looking, I am looking to do some swaps. So I'd love to see that post. And then the answer to that is what NFL Champ said, I can change as I choose, but 184 works for me right now, and in this ecosystem in this space, it's as much as I need.

That's it, my brother. What? What names you got? And you feel like Sherry.

Yeah. Do you mind if I, I'm, I'm about to put the blender on for breakfast. Can I come back in a couple of minutes?

Yeah, of course, man.

Just.

Is it?

Where was that? Where was it on the dock. Like I forgot where I saw it.

I picked it up from 034 willing to trade 034 and 5003 for Thomas, Joseph, Michael James and Mike.

Our 034, that's a good one too.

Joseph who is called Joseph Nowaday, bro.

Northern Europe.

Everybody, everybody Joseph, Joe Joseph is the legal name.

Hey, champ.

Yo.

Um, do you hold any Enns, Maxis?

Nope.

Did you?

Uh-huh.

Easy booze. What the fuck? No, I don't. Why? What's up?

No, I was gonna say I got a couple of US domains you might be interested in. I was going to look look for a trade. I got NFL rewards and NFL toys dot E.

That that aligns with your NFL champ.

Cool, cool.

Yeah, people have been approaching me a lot recently with the NFL. Like the NFL stuff. I'm good on that stuff for now while I'm still building out like the sub domain shit. But if you want to meet in this maxi, like, let me know. Like I can probably like finagle some. I could definitely finagle in the end. That's actually for you if you want.

Yeah, yeah. I'm working with somebody right now for possible trade on them on a podcast dot ETH with the mic in front of it.

So I might trade for that, but I know I was talking to ETH roses in them. We were talking about the sub domain opportunity on that one. So may or may not happen but.

Don't do that for 5040 bucks, bro. Don't do that shit.

So man, do you wanna you wanna trade this domain for maxi?

Shown through that, bro, don't do that.

Well, I would do it now in one second if you would do it. Yeah.

Gonna do it. Well was it just any maxi it it was one of the why? I appreciate the feedback but it was with it was for one of the.

The dark web backgrounds. It was pretty legit. It looked pretty cool.

It better be one of those diamond matches or those zombie maxes, bro. That shit is fucking the microphone. That shit is gold, bro. What you got in your hands?

The podcast one.

Yeah, you could do a lot of Subs.

The.

I'm not saying GRAIL, but it's like it's a lot more than 4050 bucks. I mean, I hope. Yeah. I mean, I'm just hoping you can get like, good money.

I was gonna say if you get the substitute like on a metaverse property on a land having that are wrapped outside the building.

And then even maybe having a a little light on it, green light live like you can go into the metaverse when it's live on air, bro. Hold on to that shit man. Cause unless you really fucking love the maxi for life, like the the value from the domain is, is a million X more than a maxi in my opinion, from an appeal perspective.

And bro.

Yeah, I appreciate the feedback on that one. You.

And listen to me like, I'm not throwing shade at the maxi, whatever, at the maxies. But bro, like, just know who you're doing business with at the end of the day, right? I get it. Like, in a business deal, somebody's going to win and somebody's going to lose, right? Like, there's very rare that there's an even trade for shit, you know what I'm saying? But like, I heard some of the deals that some of these dudes were trying to make, bro. It was like.

Like it was a little bit much, you know what I'm saying? Like it was a little bit, not even a little bit, it was a lot of bit much, you know what I mean? It really was. So just be careful, you know what I'm saying? Cause if you need like 5060 bucks to go get a fucking machine, you really want one. I'm sure we can finagle. We can get one for you.

That's what's up.

Yeah bro. What's up doc?

I'm thinking about it right now. Of course, if you need right now money.

Ohh.

We're a great pickup.

It it's it's may be hard to sell your domain right now for 100 bucks, but only for the short term, like let's say in in a few days or weeks of course a huge space holder like only imagine Kev was buying the four microphones dot E for I don't know the price but it was not a small price. Yeah and these guys want to have it.

What a great pick up. No boobs. When I saw that, I was so jealous. I went like. You're right.

You want to hear Alpha? Well, bootstrap was definitely fucking great stuff. What do I say, alpha? I hate that word. But this is real alpha. You want to hear real alpha? Real Alpha is somebody that's going to tell you the name of this game is patience, right? And it's not. And I'm not saying the longer you wait, the better off you're going to be. Yeah, it's a small subset of it. But my point is everybody knows the longer you wait, right? If he does what it's supposed to do, that's common sense. W

They're not giving you the steps in which you can actually take in order to be patient. Meaning, how do you need to budget yourself? Do not be a fucking too much of a degen to where you're just fucking aping into everything every single night with the rest of us idiots, right?

Like, make sure that you're buying shit that you can afford to hold for a certain period of time, because otherwise when you're playing the reactionary game versus the proactive, like, let me plan this shit out, it's a very, very different ball game because you end up selling shit for prices that you're like, fuck, right? Because that's what I did in the beginning of this, until I said to myself, OK, I need to slow the fuck down. Like the first month I went ham and I realized yesterday that I so

80 sale and we'll talk about that in a minute. But I'm like I'm looking at like I'm I'm constantly watching where things sold for and I saw where a lot of like the double flag emoji sold and then I saw where a lot of like the 0X double flag emoji sold. And then I realized what I had. I had zero X rainbow flag rainbow flag. So I'm just like where do I have this listed 50 bucks. I'm like that's cheap. I bought it for a dollar or $1.40 or whatever it was. I didn't register it. I voted on the afterm

And I went to go cancel it. I thought I did, but apparently I didn't. And I NS vision obviously and they executed it, but.

My point is, yeah, did I make a 4050X? Of course I did. That's fucking incredible. That's amazing. But that could have been something that obviously somebody else was looking at and going damn, 50 bucks.

And I saw in there that it was worth that much. I'm like, Oh my God, there's other shit that's going, and there's nowhere near as popular as the rainbow flag. This is going to be killer. And I went to go cancel and they didn't let me. I looked at it as lesson learned.

That's the alpha. It's like being able to plan out your moves ahead of time. It's chess, not checkers. What's up?

Yeah, it was interesting after the conversation officially on.

Isa.com investor.

There Gary Palmer and and some other guys was included in this billion dollar guy or multimillion dollar guy was really bringing it on. The point for me personally, I have to decide for my, let's say investment. I don't have other words if I want to be an investor or a player and if we are really investing here, like really an investment.

It has to be for years and and I don't see and and and we have to ask our question like NFL. OK, I get 50 bucks right now. But what's up now? Of course he can buy a small amount of coins or I don't know. But for the investment point of view, it was maybe not the best play but maybe he won't. He didn't want to invest. Yeah, but but my ENS is.

Together with only two or three other NFT's. My first real investment in web three. And so yeah, I I will stay for it and I will wait for it because I'm not like 184 that I own like let's say the top 21st names. I own only something like, let's say the top 5000 first names in the whole world. Yeah. So of course my investment is a little bit for the longer view, but I'm really here for the investment staff because man.

Ask me what has a bigger future, like the ENS domain service or NFT's at all? For me it's a little bit 5050 stuff, yeah. And I don't want to sit here in Germany in 10 or 15 years and really see the huge stuff going on because to be honest, I don't see that we will really handle in future NFT's, like only for such crazy amounts like really at ENS.

It.

I'll just I may have misspoken before. I I have some names. I don't have top ten, top 100 ohh I have one in the top 100. I I just mean I have say 1/3 of the names that I have are probably reasonable, 2/3 are not.

Sorry, I don't wanna talk in that way. Yeah, but, but I don't have that that clean ones like like only my question, Joseph. Yeah, I'm here in another part of the world and and so I don't know what's going on with with the real name. So I don't have the connections. And of course, Americans are really the first guys who are selling out every kind of topic. I was brainstorming and researching there. I didn't have any kind of chance at the NS. I was too late for it.

Hmm.

But if we are talking, I was yesterday because senior senior Gray is is here right now. You know, I was thinking yesterday about, OK, we're discussing Spanish right now and what, what come at third, this is French. Yeah, we was not discussing that huge, but we have so many French speaking stuff in the world. We will see.

Yeah. Let me ask you a question. Right. Do you guys have because I have a French keyboard, right? I have a French keyboard. I have a Spanish keyboard on my iPhone. Do you guys have like how many different keyboards do you have? Like text keyboards do you guys have on your phones, if any?

1.

Does English in addition to German?

Yeah.

WAVY. What about you? Do you have are you there?

Yeah.

Yeah, English. Uh, you normally need to install the additional language packs. So if you're an expat, what you'd normally do is you'll you'd leave your native language installed, and for localization reasons you would normally install the language or the country that you're in. So I've got German, English British and English US.

I like it.

Huh.

So.

But the reason is I'm not connected with my smartphone with any kind of metal mask stuff or investment stuff here.

Got it.

So.

All right. Quick little, yeah.

Because I'm trying to think like 1 little like accent above. Like a letter can change the entire value of.

A specific name, right? Because like, I'm thinking about one that I have. Like I have Claudia.

But I have like Claudia right, like like the phonetic spelling of like the the Portuguese I guess spelling right where like the accent is above the A.

Right. And because it's not Claudia like it would be here in the states, right. Go figure. You probably, I'd probably be able to better off sell it like with the accent like the Americans would love that shit. But it's like that changes the entire value of like the actual name. So like.

Right.

A hundred, 100%.

Yeah, fuck.

The thing is, for someone in the local market and assuming that language has heavy usage online and it will completely make sense. But globally, from a global appeal perspective, without the special characters is always going to be the the most value. Because like when I'm typing German, I often have to kind of repeat and search for the special characters to get the right umlaut on a.

Ohh for example, or sometimes I'd rely on suggest to give me the right spelling combination. So this is actually another piece of alpha or hack for you guys. Um hacking Google suggests is also another good domain discovery tool. So like typically what you would do is you type in three or four letters of the theme or a keyword phrase that you're after and then look at what Google look at the Google suggests box in terms of what it populates.

And those queries you see in the box are basically considered from Google plus perspective. Highly searched for terms with significant search volume that Googles generating based on your input. So Google, Google is giving you suggestions on what it thinks you want or it wants to predict the 4th character and the 5th and give you already finished words or phrases.

That's fucking genius right there. That is money. I didn't even think about that. Like Google suggest. Fuck.

Back what's up? Damn it, that's good.

What I wanted to say.

Yeah. Next to the same like locally of course you don't have to explain Claudia and and and French with with the special accent yeah but globally of course it's it's getting a little bit crazier. And yeah of course here in Germany we have some special characters too even with the apostrophe and all of this.

So yeah, we have some company names.

Believe their trademark is with apostrophe and we love the dashes and this was a discussion in the early days too. Yeah it, it, it's, it's this is so lovely and crazy to see. Yeah. And I would love to only to take a look like, let's check this with Google. NFL, are you at Google right now?

Uh, yeah.

If I'm typing what?

What? What is coming there? If you are typing what we have to like, let's say that and. And. What is the first stuff from the WE B?

Yeah.

OK.

WEB just on Google. Ohh. That's so funny. Sony just went up painting. Yeah yeah, that shit is crazy.

Hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So there's a problem with that approach. Guys like you're gonna get localized results like hyper personalized results based on your previous experience. So what you see boot versus what champ sees isn't going to be the same. In order to ensure that you're getting the correct benchmark of what is it a normal user would see with no history, you have to track those results with tools. And the way it would work is some of the tools I use, for example.

They would take 5 snapshots in the day for that query on a localized IP with a brand new cookie. And this. These are enterprise level tools where we're tracking like millions of keywords to give you give you a perspective. But like these tools will then take those four snapshots because at any time of the day, Google could decide maybe it might return a different URL as the result. So like with those four snapshots, you know, based on having analyzed.

Yeah.

In excess of 10 million keywords in terms of accuracy. Uh, the tools will report correctly, like on the four snapshots, which is the actual URL a user would see with no history. How would it? How would it? Where would it return in the search results? So like, doing it this localized way wouldn't really work, but it's still an experience nonetheless.

Hmm.

You're right.

Sting.

Very interesting.

So not to change the topic too much, but like do y'all use the the messaging tools on vision.

Like Nifty Chad or blocks or block scan.

I've not tried it yet. Have you?

I've.

Yeah, I yeah.

How? How?

I've used bluff scan but to no success. It tends to be the person on the other end is is not using it.

Same.

Back.

I mean, is it just an uh rewrapped service of the Ethereum messaging service that already exists on etherscan?

It it is the etherium as an example, it is the actual block scan, right? It links block scan. But there's also a there's also something called Nifty Chat where there's like there. It kind of has a community already. So I guess people that are using vision or using nifty chat, you know what I'm saying? And there's all these different like groups that are in there, right? So there is.

You have an audience already, right? So you can announce your news like a shield room where you can go, like announce your stuff, right? Like, I'm trying everything and anything to see, like where are the people going, right? And what medium are these deals happening, right. I get it. I'm not selling the fucking, you know?

Yeah.

Dude, it's gonna be token gated metaverse rooms that unless you hold your collection or you're authorized, you're you're not gonna be let in. And that's the beauty about these token gated experiences within the rooms, because a lot of this functionality is, if it's not already there today, it's coming very quickly with almost every metaverse.

But but why would you talking gates something like that? Why wouldn't you want the biggest audience possible to be exposed to your domain?

Wow. Well that. Well, well no, no, no it's not about that. So for example, like if you've got a domain like traders tips dot E for example, and you've got that slapped on a building and you're walking around in the metaverse, you're gonna be like, shit, I want the tips man. And then you try and go in and it says no entry my friend. And then you're like, how do I get in? Ohh. Shit, I need to go and buy this collection or I need to be part of that community. Like, but.

Hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I keep hearing about all these tips from this alpha building and I need to get in man like the phone. You know, of just walking around and seeing signage and depending on like how you present that signage with what graphic, like there's so much you can you can do from a conversion perspective. Like the FOMO is incredible that you can create with messaging.

Yeah.

Tell him about spatial NFL.

It's.

Ohh, he knows about spatial.

It's.

Hmm.

Hmm.

I know I've been. I was trying my spatial, right. The thing is, it's like, it's too much like as an everyday user, and I'm a techie engineer, right? So like, I log into my spatial and I'm just trying to like, add some images and move some of the gallery shit around it, you know? I was there for nearly 45 minutes and I felt like I'd made zero progress.

I am kind of.

What were you looking to do?

I'm, I'm. I was just walking around my building and trying to my room and trying to move the images from the floor to the wall.

And you couldn't.

Yeah.

Agreed.

And then like I put it on the wall and then it's it's angled it's off, it's angled off the wall. And then I'm like well where's the angle controls it's it's I think the UX could be vastly improved on spatial and and if they do that and make the onboarding make just give you some pre built options already to begin with and or maybe I'm just struggling with it maybe I'm just dumb I don't know.

Nah. Everyone has had that exact same thing where people when like the. I know three of the community members were in there and they were just like, it's taking me forever to do this right. And they would create these make like they bought these like beautiful penthouses right from the partnership that they had with that special had with exclusives, right. Super nice. And then they would just leave it there. They would never like disconnect or like revoke access to anybody. And people were comin

I love you.

And house over and over and over again and it's like they're moving their shit because it's like you're not locking it in place but they do have things that like I went in today bro. So zombie right Half Men have zombie bro when he did his shit which by the way I'm going to send you a he made a quick like 4 minute help video for spatial like how to use the controls like basic starter video. It's going to be money for us. It's it's amazing like he's like he's this kid took to it like not like not

Before which I love seeing and he created, bro, this beautiful room that's called the record room, where ultimately it's like he's gamifying.

The Internet.

Umm.

Here's the skill set, right? So here's the skill set champ. It's not about all of us having to be an expert in every single other. So for example, like I don't need to learn spatial, I just need to know that someone in the crew knows spatial inside out. So like if I'm then the expert, for example on World Wide Web or Ether City, another person is an expert on Decentraland like in a really small.

Closed community and yeah, we become the best of the best of our meta verses and that shared knowledge between us. Like when when I'm, you know when we want to build out a project and make it consistent in all meta verses. That shared learning we have in this community then means that yeah we can be the Champions. Like it's it's a hard team to beat because trying to be the best in every meta versus at the same time, it's impossible to keep up with all the changes.

Hmm.

Bro.

Because you have to spend, you know you almost need to spend a week to really beautifully create your room to get it to proper Polish level. Because often you need you need custom graphics and then you need to figure out uh what are the dimensions of this room. I want to I want a backdrop scenery image. Ohh shit I don't have one ohh shit it needs to be an NFT ohh shit. Shall I go and find one or foundation in support an artist or do I need to brief a proper image to a designer?

And get it done custom. Like there's all this stuff to consider when you're kind of modeling out like an architect, right?

Yep. It's like creating a it's like creating a collective. That's what I was trying to do like from the business side, like find the experts in each, in each arena, right. Whether someone was crypto, NFT met over like whatever it was on the biz dev side. And just be like let's go out, I'll go out. I mean I'll go out and be the business side. I'll go out and drum up all the business we need. But whatever they come in with we could be the full service agency for it, right. Like we have someone tha

7.

Uh, yeah.

No please go, go, go.

Sorry dude, I think someone sorry senior but like just one more. So in World Wide Web you've got different size apartments, large, medium and small. And I was just testing out like how to create a pool between the small, medium and large like stairs or an elevator. So like the small could be on the ground floor and then you've got a set of stairs, you go then to the medium apartment.

And then as you progress through the apartments, it might be well have you completed all the quests in the smaller apartment before you can go to the next floor? So, you know, it's just think figuring out what does this communication education piece look like with quests, because that's what I want to master because you're going to get bored of just walking around the metaverse. Eventually you're going to be like, I want something to do and I don't want to have to guess. And when you've got a qu

OK, now I've got something to go and do, and maybe I'll get rewarded for it.

Love it.

Love it, love it, love it. Go ahead.

OK, great.

OK, great.