Hellbenders Ride or Die with Thugbirdz Special Edition
December 15th, 2022
Hey folks. Um, I actually need just a couple more minutes before I can kick this off, but.
hellbendersmcLet's just chill for a bit till some people get here.
hellbendersmcYeah, just a heads up, Dave. I'm literally in a uh.
kidonthephoenixRoom at a hospital, waiting to see the doctor so I may have to come and go.
kidonthephoenixSo if I'm not speaking.
kidonthephoenixAnd that's why. But.
kidonthephoenixYeah, I'm here with you for now till the doc comes in.
kidonthephoenixCrap. Is this partly what you're talking about last night? Is it your migraines and stuff?
hellbendersmcYeah, well, I'm about to have to start treatment, so I'm yeah, I'm just having to see the doctor to see what we're doing so.
kidonthephoenixBut.
kidonthephoenixWell.
hellbendersmcOK.
hellbendersmcNothing to worry about. I mean we could talk more one-on-one with it.
kidonthephoenixJust be well and I'll totally understand. I'm going to boost.
hellbendersmcCaptain Wetzel up to Co host, just in case you.
hellbendersmcIt's a truly bolt, which I will understand when when the dock gets there.
hellbendersmcWelcome, Mr Jingo.
hellbendersmcFeel free to.
hellbendersmcWe'll do a little introduction shortly and you can feel free to join the stage. We're just going to take a minute before we we get this kicked off and then I'll introduce this whole concept.
hellbendersmcBut yeah, last night went well too 8.
kidonthephoenix37 soul which?
kidonthephoenixI don't know where some of it went. I don't know. It's been like trickling in slowly all day. I don't know. It's the weirdest thing.
kidonthephoenixThat is weird. I mean, doesn't foreign function just release it?
hellbendersmcI there's still only there's only 19 soul in the wallet and I've settled all the auctions, so I don't know what the fuck's going on. Form function needs to get their act together, apparently.
kidonthephoenixWell, actually I think I know what it is, because I got all these notifications that the artist has to actually I think manually.
hellbendersmcAgree. So yeah.
hellbendersmcOhh.
kidonthephoenixHmm.
kidonthephoenixBecause I got two notifications one that.
hellbendersmcI won the auction and then like.
hellbendersmcThey started trickling in that the actual artist had approved.
hellbendersmcThat I was gonna get it.
hellbendersmcI see.
kidonthephoenixHuh.
kidonthephoenixYeah. I don't know. I've never done.
kidonthephoenixI've done a lot of auctions on form function, but I've never done any kind of collaborator. Yeah, they.
kidonthephoenixApparently they've got a little couple little fixes to make because it said that the wallet collaborator address was just for the royalties, but he was saying it was for the primary sales too.
kidonthephoenixSo I don't know if.
kidonthephoenixMaybe that's what it was that I only got half the.
kidonthephoenixNo, because it would have been. I don't know what it is. I'll figure it out, but yeah.
kidonthephoenixI it started off with only six, and then it went up to 8, and then it went to 11 and now it's like 18. So yeah, it's just been a slow. I don't know what the heck. That's the weirdest thing to me.
kidonthephoenixYeah, it was pretty cool.
kidonthephoenixWell, congratulations. You know, even if you hadn't raised that much money, it really was a fabulous event that really brought the community together, so.
hellbendersmcDefinitely got some good eyes on hellbenders and.
kidonthephoenixUh.
kidonthephoenixJust good people in there. Just really, you know, a lot of good people in there.
kidonthephoenixAnd we really added some amazing stuff to the vault.
hellbendersmcI don't know if you're rugging or me.
hellbendersmcAm I rugging?
kidonthephoenixOhh you. You cut out for a minute, but you sound good now.
hellbendersmcNo, not for me.
robertwhetselNot for me.
robertwhetselOK, well I guess it was on my side. I just moved from a room to a room, so I'm actually in the location now on my comfy couch.
hellbendersmcSo, uh, let me just let Jim go you. I don't think you've been in and this is before, so let me just let you know I just found you.
hellbendersmcAnd uh, hope you'll follow back. So what we're doing is.
hellbendersmcFebruary 3rd.
hellbendersmcOf this coming year.
hellbendersmc2323.
hellbendersmcWe're launching Hellbenders, which is a creator Co-op. It's a dowel, and it's a Colorado registered cooperative where we're going to be.
hellbendersmcAcquiring a lot of art and projects for the clubhouse. We're also developing a mobile app.
hellbendersmcOptimized for the saga, but also for.
hellbendersmcUh.
hellbendersmcIOS and Android and we have a protocol that does royalty sharing and all kinds of cool and complicated ways.
hellbendersmcSo right now we're really just inviting artists up and sometimes projects and we're just talking about the ecosystem in general and at the very end.
hellbendersmcAt 4:30 we do a drawing as long as you've got at least.
hellbendersmcHey Dave, you're you're rigging pretty hard.
robertwhetselHey kid, is he running for you too?
robertwhetsel10 people in here and we've gotten 10 retweets, so these usually take a little while to get.
hellbendersmcRight.
robertwhetselYeah, he is. Actually, I I thought it was me because I'm in a hot I'm in this hospital, so the Wi-Fi is kind of spotty, but but yeah, I guess it isn't me.
kidonthephoenixYeah. Would you?
kidonthephoenixOK, well, hopefully it'll settle down, because sometimes it's just, which was.
hellbendersmcYou're just gonna have to get out of your comfy chair and go to an uncomfortable chair, I guess.
robertwhetselDamn.
hellbendersmcI can't do that today. It's this rainy sleety day out here.
hellbendersmcYeah, and it's cold. It just feel damp and cold.
robertwhetselWell, one thing I wanted to tell you guys.
hellbendersmcSo.
hellbendersmcThese are really.
hellbendersmcTime consuming and kind of exhausting, you know, I mean, it's been great to meet a lot of people, but it's not our main focus. We have society where, where.
hellbendersmcDude, your rug it you're rigging fiercely. You rug and fiercely.
robertwhetselAnd what you.
hellbendersmcI couldn't even understand what you said anyway.
robertwhetselWell, it's like 10 after usually we have people already rolling in here by now, so there's only a couple of us here. Let's go ahead and retweet the room and see how many, I mean, we can roll this room up to.
robertwhetselDoughbird Thursday. I expected to see a couple of thug birds in here.
kidonthephoenixWell, you got two of them here. David's got thug burned. I got, I got a I got a thug bird. I got a hellbender thug thug bird too. Those are freaking bad ass.
robertwhetselWell, I I did announce it in the.
hellbendersmcUh.
hellbendersmcI did announce it in the.
hellbendersmcSo birds, discord, and I gotta you know, I got some of the OG's to ping everybody so they might show up. Hopefully I'm not rugged anymore. I think I fixed the Wi-Fi issue. Sound good?
hellbendersmcYeah, you're coming in good.
kidonthephoenixActually, it's yeah, that's loud and clear.
robertwhetselOK, cool. So what we're going to do, I mean, these are really exhausting and they take a lot of time and focus and I think it's been good to sort of.
hellbendersmcMeet a lot of people and get things rolling. Um, what we're gonna do from here on out?
hellbendersmcIs sponsor.
hellbendersmcA Soul city radio. So just we we we worked out a sponsorship that starts December 30th and rolls all the way through to.
hellbendersmcTo our our launch date of February 3rd. So we're just however it's going to work, we're just going to be part of part of their deal.
hellbendersmcAnd kid will talk about, you know how how we're going to wind up doing.
hellbendersmcMore marketing and different marketing, but not completely dependent on being in the same place at the same time every day.
hellbendersmcHow does that sound?
hellbendersmcYeah.
kidonthephoenixUmm.
kidonthephoenixYeah, we just had a touch base and.
kidonthephoenixYou know.
kidonthephoenixI think this whole city radio idea is a good idea.
kidonthephoenixI think.
kidonthephoenixGetting connected with some some other projects too will be a really good idea, but but having a good.
kidonthephoenixGood. Uh, basis with the, uh, one-on-one communities. Good.
kidonthephoenixI'm also going to be doing the weekly United we art spaces, so we'll we'll get some coverage there doing a roundtable next Wednesday.
kidonthephoenixCool.
hellbendersmcSo yeah, and we could just put, you know, sponsored by hellbenders on the United we art thing too, you know, and give it some, give it some eyes.
kidonthephoenixBut.
kidonthephoenixUh, I'd love that. And you know, we'll, we'll certainly help feed you for that sponsorship.
hellbendersmcBut yeah.
kidonthephoenixCool. And then the other thing I wanted to to cover was um.
hellbendersmcWe are, we, we, I've been looking for an advisor and a marketing team to really ensure we blow this up, ones that are really deeply integrated with the whole.
hellbendersmcUh.
hellbendersmcGenerative community and a lot of the the bigger projects, so we're actually engaging.
hellbendersmcFunctions team um and they're they're gonna kick off around the same time. So they're basically gonna work from January 3rd to February 3rd and push us over the top. So I agree. I think the foundation of the one of one community was a really good place to start, but we really need to.
hellbendersmcBe ready for.
hellbendersmcUm, it's usually about a month that these projects used to to get all the momentum together, so we're coming up with a a step-by-step strategy starting on the 3rd.
hellbendersmcYeah, the.
kidonthephoenixYou know, the one-on-one community can.
kidonthephoenixSupport.
kidonthephoenixSupportive, pretty good project, but A12K at the high at a higher price, it's definitely going to take.
kidonthephoenixIt's going to take the, uh, the PPD Gen culture to get in on that one.
kidonthephoenixWell beyond the one of one culture.
kidonthephoenixBut um.
kidonthephoenixYeah, kind of finding a good balance of the two would definitely be effective.
kidonthephoenixAmen.
hellbendersmcAmen. I'm gonna put in starting that we have. I've been talking to the the dudes from youths and and did gods were introduced to me through Neverland who's been up here. And so we've got this we've got our own little charity drive. I just posted at the top where.
hellbendersmcFor if by Christmas we get 1000 followers.
hellbendersmcRetweets and members were donating 420 USD C.
hellbendersmcTo this drive.
hellbendersmcAnd we're also giving away.
hellbendersmc69 hellbenders to people who do those three things, so.
hellbendersmcThat's just something that, you know, we jumped into there and and they're going to jump in with us and help.
hellbendersmcHelp get things moving.
hellbendersmcWell, our friend the doctor's left. Um, I don't know kit, if you can join us up on stage.
hellbendersmcUm.
hellbendersmcSo when were you planning on doing a space tomorrow then?
kidonthephoenixI know I had planned on it, but.
hellbendersmcI'm kind of thinking maybe we shouldn't.
hellbendersmcMaybe we should just uh.
hellbendersmcSomehow.
hellbendersmcUse this as an opportunity to.
hellbendersmcTo tie a nice bow on on the series and go back to the drawing board of UM.
hellbendersmcGo back to the drawing board of our whole.
hellbendersmcYou know how we're going to bring this forward.
hellbendersmcI think the.
kidonthephoenixI think the spaces could be a good idea to relaunch.
kidonthephoenixAfter, there's a bit of a more following.
kidonthephoenixTo the hellbenders like before the mint, you know.
kidonthephoenixTwo to three weeks before start launching them again consistently.
kidonthephoenixBut but yeah, it's been tough. It's tough to justify the output of the time.
kidonthephoenixWhen you don't feel, um, the input of uh, you know the following and the the interest.
kidonthephoenixSo I mean I understand what you're saying completely. I've went rounds with that. With United, we aren't myself, but that's why I started doing the the round tables again because I was doing the one-on-one conversations and interviews and just not very many people were coming in. So I started asking five or six artists to come in and do the round table. And so that tends to bring more people into the space because they all bring their their little friends. So last, the last one we did was about
kidonthephoenixWhich isn't bad for the one of 1 space, but.
kidonthephoenixWell, I think you're spot on that. It just is a very different culture. You know the the one-on-one.
hellbendersmcThere's a lot for people to talk about and a lot for people to.
hellbendersmcTo share in terms of strategies and encouragement and uh.
hellbendersmcRob's back here.
hellbendersmcSo it.
hellbendersmcYou did so much organizing that community.
hellbendersmcIn the first place and then.
hellbendersmcOthers.
hellbendersmcStarted piling on, you know, Salt City radio as well as a bunch of others.
hellbendersmcAnd so I think there's a there's a natural reason for that group to get together frequently and talk about all kinds of things, from royalties to different marketplaces to marketing strategies to their own.
hellbendersmcTheir own output and creativity.
hellbendersmcHere.
hellbendersmcFor hellbenders.
hellbendersmcAs.
hellbendersmcA generative project.
hellbendersmcThe foundations different and the bones are different, so that's what I want to work with.
hellbendersmcFunction and his team on.
hellbendersmcBecause things are gonna be super quiet anyway between now and.
hellbendersmcAnd the new year, you know, get that all prepared and then just come out super strong right after the new year with a complete.
hellbendersmcStrategy and then just, you know, definitely space really part of it, they're probably going to be have a very different.
hellbendersmcUm, very different vibe.
hellbendersmcBased on what's happening and you guys, I mean I I want this just to be a conversation so you don't need to raise your hand kit just.
hellbendersmcJust jump in.
hellbendersmcHey, so I missed the first half and I'm just waking up from taking a snooze in midday before I have to go back to work. But yeah, you know, as Solana, there are groups out there. It's a small little niche, but people are very tightly knit.
kitbaronessAnd when individual communities trying to bring people together, it's kind of hard when that particular space in, you know, Twitter, you know, crypto, Twitter or CT, what you guys call it kind of.
kitbaronessHave its own collective. It's nice to everyone bounce around to actually show a true support between the, you know, collabs. So I mean, it's nice to have.
kitbaronessEvery other day a regular space scheduled, but trying to find these people out and showing that initiative caused more organic growth. And people start talking. And over a period of time, even if you park your PFP, they tend to see it and they recognize it and then eventually build that trust. It's not even trying to build the trust, just they they see you, they see you around still. And people it's just small. It's a small space. You're going to run into others.
kitbaronessYeah, it's a super good point and something I've been thinking about that we need to do a lot more is, and part of it is we don't, we don't have something specific to offer. But just as early as next week, I mean our goal is Tuesday we're going to have our Launchpad ready where people are going to be able to mint these fake ID's, change their PFP's. So hellbenders are going to be able to show up in different place places and offer their support.
hellbendersmcSo you know.
hellbendersmcWell, we'll have much more reach. I think this was a really good experiment and a good way to.
hellbendersmcLearn a bit, particularly because it is really early for us. But I agree, getting hellbenders and and one or two people isn't enough. I mean when when we all start.
hellbendersmcShowing up in different places and showing support for a bunch of different projects and spaces, I think people are gonna start to.
hellbendersmcWonder more about us and, you know, maybe join into these kinds of things.
hellbendersmcYeah, and I if I don't, if I if you don't mind me chiming in like I I honestly right now I believe there is a massive space going on about Solana.
fwazsolGive me, yeah, Kevin, O'Leary is talking and like everyone's in there. There's like 9000 listeners.
fwazsolKevin O'Leary Mr wonderful.
hellbendersmcMr Wonderful is in a space right now, so like he's.
fwazsolTalking about Solana.
hellbendersmcYeah, because he's an he was an FTX investor, right? So he has to, like, clear his name.
fwazsolRight. I mean, he's getting grilled.
hellbendersmcYeah, he has to clear his name. So he's talking in this thing and like, there's 10,000 people almost listening, web 3 exposed. Like, I'm looking at all these like, massive spaces going on right now and.
fwazsolIs that Mario space?
kitbaronessIt is the yeah. It's the Mario space, yeah.
fwazsolYeah, that's funny. I've actually um.
hellbendersmcYeah.
hellbendersmcAnd I'm just like, I'm seeing like most of my followers are in that space. Like, you know, the people that like, you know, I hate to say it, but like you know, like the Solana people, like the ones that are the megaplex people, like, they're they're all in those spaces just listening.
fwazsolWell, maybe that's what we should do. I mean, let's just like there's no reason fighting up stream. I mean, you know what it reminds me of? We played in.
hellbendersmcWe're salamanders, right?
fwazsolYeah.
hellbendersmcFighting upstream.
fwazsolYeah, exactly.
hellbendersmcNot intentional, but thanks, so we.
hellbendersmcMy band played in Pittsburgh.
hellbendersmcThe same night, Fugazi played somewhere else in Pittsburgh and literally like three people showed up and we were.
hellbendersmcAnd then another time I was booking bands in New Haven and we we booked.
hellbendersmcGone, which was ex Black Flag guys and you know people should have showed up but.
hellbendersmcThe Psychedelic Furs were also playing in New Haven, and you know, it's just you can't compete, so.
hellbendersmcYeah, I mean, let's just, you know, I think this was a good experiment. We made some progress.
hellbendersmcI think we should hang our house up for a little while and re strategize and.
hellbendersmcYeah, Moto I was.
fwazsolReally go hard once the launchpad is up with how we're going to how we're going to blow this up.
hellbendersmcMother, I was actually going to prepare some, you know, some media actually I was going to talk to kid about this too. Potentially prepare some like, you know, you know using like your saga phone like as like a video production almost.
fwazsolUsing a saga phone and seeing AR because I know that's one of the, sorry for that was major alpha but that's one of the applications that like we're going to be working on in the future right in saga is like using your phone as to show to show NFTS on random things.
fwazsolYeah, no, I think it's a great idea and we're gonna.
hellbendersmcAs soon as we get the launchpad, we're going to be able to roll out that stuff just in.
hellbendersmcYou know, super quickly. Um.
hellbendersmcAnd start to show fun stuff. I'm hoping to get mine in the next couple days. I showed up on that, you know, they said they're starting to send out the dev kits starting today.
hellbendersmcDid you? Yeah. I was gonna ask you if you ordered one.
fwazsolOh yeah, I was. I mean, the moment they announced it, I so.
hellbendersmcOhh, I'm excited. Yeah, I dude, I'd love to get on a call with you and see that thing man.
fwazsolYeah.
hellbendersmcThe one thing is like everybody that did win the hellbenders, NFT's for the lizards.
kitbaronessYou know having once in a while reaching out just take them in a Twitter post and if you guys are running a space you know tagging them so that way you know can try to represent. Because I love my like little PFP. And when you go into the space you just randomly see someone parked there like what the hell is that? And people click on it try to figure them more information on it and if there's a, you know a post from hellbenders that's associated with their name and their their sporting it in a r
kitbaronessAnd yeah, on barris's point, like, honestly, like, it's weird because, like, it's like, I know, kid, I know, I know you, Moto.
fwazsolI know Sentient is a chicken tribe holder so is ducky and like when I like found out that like they just they're working with kid on united we are where it's it's like a it's like a full circle thing. I'm like what like I was trying to make like an art thing and chicken try but kids are already doing it in united we art. So it's just like I feel like there's like a superpower team that needs to be developed in Solana like as a whole and I think we're doing it slowly but surely and I think this i
fwazsolYou know, we're we're part of it right now.
fwazsolYep. No, exactly.
hellbendersmcAnd those going back, you know, a year.
hellbendersmc18 months, you know, those relationships that have been fostered over time are just going to all of a sudden, you know that's going to be the network.
hellbendersmcYeah.
fwazsolSo, you know, because now it's really fragmented, you know, it's like.
hellbendersmcThey're just a few power centers. Like there's the SMB Power Center, there's the G8 Power Center, there's the.
hellbendersmcDid God's power center?
hellbendersmcSo God.
fwazsolAnd it's like those are three power centers.
hellbendersmcAll gods, you guys are sleeping on soul gods. I'm telling you right now, they're about to take off just for Bella.
fwazsolYeah, about 2, but that's the thing. It's different than being.
hellbendersmcA power center already you know.
hellbendersmcI don't know man like like Lex is working. I would say he's an infant. I would say he's a market market influencer at the same way Frank is. I I don't know if you've seen Lex's tweets. He's the founder of Soul God's. I just yes I am a slow God's fanatic fanboy whatever you want to call it. But like also I truly believe like the fracture has evolved over time the same way Chicken tribe has. So I've seen are both of our projects evolve over time.
fwazsolAnd the way he, like market makes his project, it's insane. It's just like.
fwazsolHe's just bullish on himself like so much like where you're just, you're just bullish on it's it's what Marcus really is. It's like, it's like he's like you know what, I believe in myself so much, I'm going to make everyone else believe in me.
fwazsolAnd it's like that's it's it's an insane power to have and that's what that's what these like you know quote UN quote founders have right like or these you know chilling villains in the world or whatever they these these marketers they have that power they're they they.
fwazsolI don't know, there's something to it and it attracts people and I don't know what it is, but it's like, you know, call it the energy of the world. Call it spiritual energy. Call it like, you know, intelligence, call it whatever it is. But like it there is something that just attracts, attracts me to like, you know, why is Frank tweeting, you know, go to a free code camp course. You know that he's actually helping out the community, but like at the same time he's being funded. But, you know, it'
fwazsolIt's a weird.
fwazsolYou know that that founder mentality is, is is definitely like it's you have to take some hits now and then like like you said man. Like you know you're you're playing at the band or you're playing in what?
fwazsolWhether you're banned and can't remember who showed up. I'm sorry. I don't remember these old metal band names. I'm so sorry about that. But yeah, no, someone showed up. And yeah, you just kind of just got like, it's one. It's it's one of those things. And like, it's not like I don't believe in the project at all. Of course, like, everyone here believes in the project. And like the, like, even sentient. I can speak for her. I I I truly think I can. This is one of those things she asked she DM me
fwazsolAnd I was like, yeah, this is what it's all about. Like, This is why we're doing it. It's essentially like what I was talking about, like in chicken tribe, like the art collective. Like, I had a similar idea, but like, I was just kind of like framing it to sentient, but it.
fwazsolIt was. It just, it worked out really well because she was like, this is dope. I like, I love this idea. You know, like and sentient, you know, she's super awesome. I mean, she's just a great person to be around on, honestly. Like, you know, her voice is enlightening sometimes.
fwazsolSo.
hellbendersmcAnd yeah we're so we're we now have a couple other visitors here. We're having this kind of conversation in public on on strategy which I think is great. I mean that was part of the reason to do this and I'd love to have.
hellbendersmcTransitory mask. Um, join us up on stage and.
hellbendersmcAdele.
hellbendersmcFrederick, I hope you can come up and and.
hellbendersmcCorrect my pronunciation.
hellbendersmcBut you know, so we were just talking about and I don't know when you guys joined or how much you heard but.
hellbendersmcOur whole topic is at this point.
hellbendersmcWe're launching on February 3rd.
hellbendersmcMost projects start marketing in earnest about 30 days. The ones, you know, big projects that meant out, you know, it's preparation, preparation, preparation. But nothing really happens until about a month before they go live and then it's all out.
hellbendersmcHow many followers can you get? How many people can you get discord? How much FOMO can you possibly create? How much FUD can you possibly avoid?
hellbendersmcThe kid Baroness flaws.
hellbendersmcRob Wetzel, you know, a couple of us have been thinking about how to do this. So what we're doing right now with this space is really an experiment.
hellbendersmcBut the reality of it is what we're just talking about is that there are really three power centers and which is.
hellbendersmcThe Bigods Power Center the.
hellbendersmcSMB Power Center and the D Gen 8 Power Center and there are these.
hellbendersmcSort of like swimming, there are these other communities like the 101 communities that are forming and growing and gaining power and as far as mentioned projects like Soul Gods which have a lot behind them, but still if you compare, you know, a floor price of 16 Saul, you know 250 bucks versus.
hellbendersmcA floor price of.
hellbendersmc3000 bucks.
hellbendersmcUm, you know, it's just they don't have the same, they don't the same financial resources, they don't have the same reach. They know the same. And right now it really is.
hellbendersmcFor better or worse, you know, no matter how good a project is, no matter how charismatic a founder is.
hellbendersmcWas the chicken tribe, but Galax like super loud and it's just like funny and just like it's crazy?
fwazsolIt's really hard to break into that and even, you know ones that meant it out. I mean you look at OK bears, you know they were the last of the Big Bull run projects. You know it it they tumbled really fast and you know you look at.
hellbendersmcClay hours, I mean, they meant it out, but they still, you know, having a floor price of.
hellbendersmc222527 soul it.
hellbendersmcIt doesn't give you, yeah, they raised a million and a half, but I think what it still shows is that the promises.
hellbendersmcLike bubble gum brawl or these other projects where the promises are still all oriented around.
hellbendersmcOffline technologies or online technologies that aren't fundamentally.
hellbendersmcWeb three and aren't fundamentally Solana. They're not going to be able to capture this market in the same way like bubble gum. Bubble Goose Ballers was all about this one.
hellbendersmcIllustrator.
hellbendersmcWho? Carl Jones, who did these amazing animations, and they're all thinking, OK, we have a bubble goose baller. They're only going to be so many of these. He's going to do these incredible animations and these are going to suddenly be valuable, but they don't own actually part of that.
hellbendersmcThing, they don't own part of that red revenue stream. And it's really freaking hard to get your bubble goose Ballers into the mainstream. You know, it's just, it's probably not going to happen. It's probably not going to happen. The clay sorus is going to be valuable just because these guys are amazing clay animators and it's really hard to do something different like hellbenders and get mainstream adoption.
hellbendersmcYou know, afterwards everyone's gonna, you know, do all their Monday morning quarterbacking and say, well, here was the meta, you know, the meta was this, the meta was this or this is how they did it. But for us, it, it is just super clear we have one market entry point.
hellbendersmcIt's because of our protocol and it's because the people who get in early, the people who have seniority are actually gonna have a hell of a lot more than the people who get in late.
hellbendersmcAnd that seniority is going to be known, and it's all based on these minting of these fake ID's. And then the other big factor is going to be your broods.
hellbendersmcEverybody has um.
hellbendersmcYour brood is gonna be online. Hellbenders have another, you know, lay millions and millions of eggs and we're going to know which hellbenders have the biggest broods, and we're going to.
hellbendersmcUm.
hellbendersmcYeah, where, you know, people are going to start to realize that the way we launched is what's going to wind up being important. So I just think we we chill out until our launchpad's done.
hellbendersmcAnd then, you know, we all get back together and start.
hellbendersmcStart spreading this and in that way. In that good way.
hellbendersmcYeah, I completely agree on that one, honestly. I mean, there's, there's media that could be done that we could just, you know, tease. Obviously we could tease.
fwazsolThings like that, but like with the final product is always the best way in my opinion.
fwazsolAwesome.
hellbendersmcYeah, definitely. I mean, teasers or talking about it here and there, but when we get these large, you know, spaces are continuous and blasting, it makes people curious, but without actual product and they're doing their searches and doing their own due diligence or asking other people they heard about it. Somebody's gonna pull up more information that's negative than good just to, you know, throw FUD.
kitbaronessYeah, well, the main thing is everybody's gonna be incentivized to FOMO just because, you know, the people who have a big brood are going to make a bunch of money and the people and that, you know.
hellbendersmcThe people who are spending their time funding are gonna look like idiots. I mean, it's it's baked into the protocol, you know, so it so that's what's good, you know? I mean, it's just it's a different thing. There will be and I don't know who it is, but there will be people who get it. There will be the first person who actually makes $1,000,000 on this protocol and it's going to be really interesting to see who that is. It could.
hellbendersmcIt could very well be somebody who has you know, 100 followers now you know, is going to be that guy and that's that's been my experience.
hellbendersmcIn coaching entrepreneurs over the years, it's almost impossible to know who's actually gonna.
hellbendersmcGonna blow it up. It's almost never who you expect.
hellbendersmcYeah, who knows? My, my, uh, my new inspired uh photo collection might go crazy, you know, I actually.
fwazsolI have one. I have one in mine and it's it's pretty dope, I'm not gonna lie.
fwazsolIt's called lines. I'll give you guys the alpha, but it's 35 millimeter black and white, so.
fwazsolAnd obviously it's gonna go into the hellbenders vault.
fwazsolYeah, well, the main thing is like.
hellbendersmcEven besides the vault, look at the.
hellbendersmcYou know, look at the protocol and how it can hellbenders help blow that up, you know, because if we all get it, we all like it. And, you know, we've collected a piece or two the rest of the hellbenders. The way the app's going to work, you know you're going to be able to send around tokens to others. And if and those tokens are going to be required, it's like wait list tokens to mint, but then you get a share of the royalties. So there's all kinds of dynamics that are going to start happening a
hellbendersmcPeople are going to come up with completely different launch strategies.
hellbendersmcYeah, I'm I'm super hyped for like when when like we have the launchpad and things start going cause.
fwazsolUmm.
hellbendersmcYep.
hellbendersmcThat's what? That's when I start going, you know what I mean? Like, you know what? I do. So that's when I start going. And I I start like, you know, approaching people. And I'm like, hey, what's up?
fwazsolAnd yeah, I don't wanna be like that, but yeah.
fwazsolNot literally, but uh, kind of.
fwazsolYep. All right. Well, what do you think? Should we just, should we call it a day and not try and compete with the space that has like 9000 people in it grilling uh, Mr Wonderful, who's trying to redeem himself?
hellbendersmcI mean, I wanna, I wanna listen. But like we can also talk about what happened in the Salana mobile space this morning. I don't know. I, I sent that to you, Moto. There was a saga space about the SMS stack this morning. So like.
fwazsolThey they, they said some crazy stuff. They like they were releasing like the dev phone and like you know like the dev version of the phone or like the developer version. So you're getting that and then also like they said that like.
fwazsolOne of the developers were saying he's holding it right now and he's like speaking in a Twitter space through a Salana app right now. And I was like, what? Like? So I was just like even more bullish on that. So I'm just, you know.
fwazsolBullish on soul. Always.
fwazsolWell, the cool thing is.
hellbendersmcI mean, I thought the the best part of it was.
hellbendersmcThe validation.
hellbendersmcOf what we're doing, just the description of the people who have been using.
hellbendersmcThat phone and the difference between when you actually have the seed vault and you know your seed phrase is secure in the seed vault and you can just basically just with a swipe with a tap, you know the transactions are just happening and you know you're in the zone. But also they said you know.
hellbendersmcThe notifications, I mean, it's just like what we what.
hellbendersmcThe kid was asking for.
hellbendersmcHe was asking for something that just tells you everything that's happening on chain and web three, and he said that's the experience he gets. So it just, I mean it.
hellbendersmcIt amped up my desire to have this in my hand and to develop cool shit for it because.
hellbendersmcThe the Web 3 experience going to your laptop is a freaking drag and on the mobile phone, you know, taking a URL move, you know, opening your wallet.
hellbendersmcOpening the browser in your wallet, cutting and pasting, you know, so you can do a.
hellbendersmcA quick, easy mint or whatever transaction you're going for, you know it's a.
hellbendersmcIt's it's just gonna be a completely different thing. It's gonna be a completely different thing. And I I it that whole conversation just made me really, really happy that we.
hellbendersmcHad a mobile first strategy and that.
hellbendersmcSolana's mobile first strategy? It's going to change everything.
hellbendersmcI've already downloaded the dev kits, you know, the different packages that they have available, and started playing with those. So it's it's real.
robertwhetselYeah. And and Rob, this is kind of an interesting thing.
hellbendersmcThe hardware developers were on there and they said one of the things that we're gonna now suddenly get experience with is how phones are rolled out because.
hellbendersmcIn March, he said. It's not really going to all come together until the last moment because they get all the hardware and they get the operating system and the connections and all that, but we're going to find.
hellbendersmcAnd building on it, all of these missing pieces and they just kind of count on the developers.
hellbendersmcKnow what those missing pieces are, you know over those months. So it's just going to be really weird like it's nothing I've done. I mean we've we've developed for mobile and it's certainly probably similar to the early days, you know where we would order these weird antennas for the palm pilot that would sort of.
hellbendersmcGo in on the bottom, you know, and develop for it. But it wasn't. We weren't developing for a completely new platform that nobody had in their hands before. We're going to have a blast with that.
hellbendersmcCook off.
davidcastainAll right.
hellbendersmcThere.
fwazsolSome of the things that kind of drew me other than knowing a few of you already, but what it's being built out is the curations of communities and prior like I've always been bullish on Salon no matter what the news is because I just DCA because a lot of people look at soul as a price point of a token coinage rather than actual like what you could do with it. It's scalability and I came from Terra.
kitbaronessDo you know which crashed and was building into cause? Terra. The Cosmos had a bridge for.
kitbaronessNFT marketplaces and so forth with Slana and I want to actually utilize what you're doing you're repositories to try again.
kitbaronessThe just use this.
kitbaronessI understand your repositories for what I I missed the transition from Terra Luna to to Solana.
hellbendersmcBeing able to have something to build off of again and try to bring it over to other chains.
kitbaronessSo that must have been really, really freaking depressing.
hellbendersmcOn the collapse of.
hellbendersmcTerra and Luna.
hellbendersmcYeah, try not to relive it.
kitbaronessSo I I keeping up with uh, everything that's being developed within the news and with other developers on the down low and I'm just super bullish on what you guys are doing for the tech.
kitbaronessThanks. I appreciate it man.
hellbendersmcYou should have one of those, uh, flags. I survived the.
hellbendersmcTerrible collapse. And then you know you can add to it. I survived the FTX collapse. I just wonder like.
hellbendersmcYes, here.
hellbendersmcIt's one and the same. FTX was eventually gonna fall because FTX was.
kitbaronessYou know Terra Luna, you know hearsay and also VGX Voyager. That was another one I fell from.
kitbaronessI wonder, we, you know, we should give out badges going all the way back to Mount Gox, you know, just all the, you know, let people put them on their profiles.
hellbendersmcThat too add me to that list.
kitbaronessThat's like combat patches that you get on your uniform.
robertwhetselExactly.
hellbendersmcYeah, we have a well prior military service like Robert, you understand the coins, right?
kitbaronessThe little coins that you might have in your pocket at the bar and stuff.
kitbaronessI, I have. I have some 60s coins. I have Madison's coin. So yeah.
robertwhetselYep. So we should just turn those into NFT's.
kitbaronessNo real value, but they're meant for trading and that's perfect right there. Just hand them out.
kitbaronessWhen I show up at a military bar and you know you do, who's got the highest coin I pull up? Mattis, when you was Department of Defense.
robertwhetselI I never pay for drinks.
robertwhetselWeren't you like the oldest?
hellbendersmcThe oldest enlisted man.
hellbendersmcNo, I'm the oldest captain in the army.
robertwhetselAlright.
hellbendersmcI turned down major 10 years ago, so I would be eligible for Lieutenant Colonel right now, and because I was prior service if I. So let's put it this way.
robertwhetselPerson who I I came in with back in the 80s. He now just got his third star. So that's the age of the people that are my peers. But I'm a captain with all these little freaking 20 year olds, so there's that.
robertwhetselAnd your rationale?
hellbendersmcUm, if I would have.
robertwhetselPut on major, then Lieutenant Colonel, then Colonel. If I've done that, then my responsibilities would have gone up. And because I was prior service as an elisted, I don't have to be up or out. So I could stay a captain for as long as I freaking walked until I retire and I don't have to work as hard.
robertwhetselOK, that makes sense.
hellbendersmcCan affect your pay.
hellbendersmcYeah, but it did. But then my civilian job more makes up for the pay, because it's highly unlikely I would have made three stars. But in my civilian job, I made my third star, so it was worth it to keep pushing my civilian career forward and just let the military career ride.
robertwhetselGot it.
hellbendersmcMakes sense? It's all confusing to me.
hellbendersmcIt doesn't matter. I'm retiring. I have 30 years. I have O 8 pay as a retirement. So.
robertwhetselI wouldn't have got that as the other way, so I maximized my my, my suffering.
robertwhetselYeah, well, this the the concept that we're supposed to be talking about today was thug birds. We we didn't get much representation of the thug birds because.
hellbendersmcTalk, Tom. Mother.
robertwhetselSo I would like to invite.
hellbendersmcDavid Malachi Castain to.
hellbendersmcRegale us a little bit with the the thug bird story and this rise from you know.
hellbendersmcI don't know. The low is probably around 7. What was the all time low floor for thug birds?
hellbendersmcI'm not sure I know that information.
davidcastainWell, it's down there. I definitely thought it 13, you know 12 probably got lower.
hellbendersmcYeah, I think I took it from 8 to 8 till where we at now 25 today.
davidcastainYes.
davidcastainYeah. So tell us about that.
hellbendersmcShit rebirth, repump. Now we got the flock is going crazy today. Everyone in this space has earned a flocker by being here. So send me your Addy flock with me. I'm still sending out NUGS. Nugs and Flockers are both at about 1:00 sold a day, but it looks like they're going to pump with the Super limited supply and.
davidcastainWhat?
hellbendersmcHonestly, we've got a I think we've got a Gin 2 coming out for thug birds called the quacks. There's gonna be like 10K quacks coming out. Should be like a DJ and stiltman within the next week or two, so that should be pretty cool. Yeah. And we're going to be using the the funds from the quacks to sweep birds, and the quacks are.
davidcastainThe quacks are in design by the original the original founder right now.
davidcastainWow. So the and so if you're holding a thug bird, does that give you a?
hellbendersmcYou'll get a quack.
davidcastainAnd and and interacting with these quacks.
hellbendersmcYou could, yes. All thug birds holders get a quack.
davidcastainWell, awesome.
hellbendersmcWhat about? What about the nug? Tell me about the nug.
robertwhetselSo the nug can get you in the discord. Um, the nugs gonna pump. The NUG was I, I think .1 yesterday. It's at one sold today, like and we're looking to keep it pushing.
davidcastainJust for those who don't know what the hell we're talking about, I'm going to.
hellbendersmcPost at the top of this.
hellbendersmcUmm.
hellbendersmcThose images. So up on the Jumbotron, you're seeing the thug birds. The classic is there. These three things were all in the all going into the vault. So there's a thug birds, there's a nug, and there's a flocka right there. So who designed the flocco? Where'd those come from?
hellbendersmcThe flock is is a OG project that we drugged and now we're we're pumping Birdman swept NUGS this morning. I think he's gonna sweep flacas either tonight or tomorrow. So I don't know. It's getting pretty fun. We've got limited supply, small numbers. It's it's it's getting pretty interesting.
davidcastainCool.
hellbendersmcCool, cool, cool.
hellbendersmcAnd why don't you tell people about your your event coming up this?
hellbendersmcToday's.
hellbendersmcWe're doing a social hacker house. Open bar, free food, meet and greet with Adrian Swish, Brett Siffling, Danny Banks, um, the founder of the Nug. Shitty fibby. So anyone that's in LA or can get out here, come get a free nug, come get a free flocka, come get some food and drinks and meet some stars.
davidcastainSo one of the things since there are a lot of one of one artists here, you know, my first experience with thug birds and Dion was him being up on stage or Birdman being up on stage and talking about how important one of one art is and getting that moving. Actually before you jump in, since we got some new people here, we're going to be doing a giveaway today. So I'm just going to reset the room quick let.
hellbendersmcThat new folks know what we're doing and then, um, if everybody could, if you want to join.
hellbendersmcIf you want to be part of the giveaway, which you're gonna want to, you're gonna want to retweet what I'm about to put up here. So basically, here's the story Hellbenders is launching on the.
hellbendersmc3rd of February. So that's 2323. It's going to be a big collection of 12,000 hellbenders. It's drawn by Nat Jones, who's a very.
hellbendersmcWell renowned illustrator. He did, um, a full year of spawn.
hellbendersmcDid Frank Franz at his death dealer Rob Zombie, 68, was, you know, on the design team for a bunch of horror movies, John Carpenter movies, 30 days of night?
hellbendersmcIt's also done games like Baldur's Gate, so he's a real stud and this is his first collection we got. It's backed by a Dow that's also a Colorado creator Co-op, so we're going to be distributing profits out to holders in two different classes so creators get more.
hellbendersmcAnd collectors. So if you happen to be an artist, but you're also a holder, you're going to get more of those profit distributors than if you're distribution, then if you're just a collector and finally.
hellbendersmcWe have our own protocol, social crypto syndication, and we have our own mobile app that's also that's going to be launching with the saga phone. It's going to be for the phone, it's going to be for iOS and it's going to be for Android. So that's what we're doing. So if you go and retreat the room, you're going to be in the drawing for hellbender and you get your choice of those hellbenders.
hellbendersmcThat are also also up there. We're going to be do that drawing in 1/2 hour. So my question for.
hellbendersmcUm, David castain? Who's up here? Um is. Oh man, he just dropped off.
hellbendersmcOhh yeah.
hellbendersmcEight day I've I've been rugging all this time off and on. So I've been kicked out, kicked and come back in and kicked out, come back in. So I don't know what Elon's doing, but he's messing with this shit.
robertwhetselYeah.
hellbendersmcHe's fucking with you. He wants everybody over in that 9000 Twitter space while he's back, at least.
hellbendersmcSo the conversation right now is how do one of one artist? How do creators?
hellbendersmcUh.
hellbendersmcPartner or join? Or what's the advantage of being part of a big community like?
hellbendersmcThug birds how does thug birds support its members who are doing, who are doing one of one art? What's the advantage of being in a discord like that or being in a community like that?
hellbendersmcHopefully David will come up.
hellbendersmcYeah.
fwazsolIf not flaws, you can speak to this.
hellbendersmcI don't know. Can you guys hear me?
fwazsolYeah.
hellbendersmcOh my car.
fwazsolSo sorry for this terrible sound quality, but yeah, no, I think it's got something to do with Elon Musk probably moving Twitter headquarters out of San Francisco today.
fwazsolYeah, and I my spaces have been rugging like all day today too.
fwazsolDoctor, I believe it's Robert, right?
fwazsolYeah, rob.
hellbendersmcYeah, it is, Robert. Yeah. Nice, yeah.
fwazsolIt. Yes, it's Robert.
robertwhetselYeah, sorry, uh, I I knew you was asked the doctor, but uh yeah, it's it's Robert. But yeah, no. My spaces have been lugging all day today. They were yesterday also, and I'm not sure what's going on, but Elon did move.
fwazsolThe Twitter headquarters out of San Francisco today, so.
fwazsolInteresting take right there.
fwazsolI hadn't heard that. Where where is it moving to Texas?
hellbendersmcUh, probably. I read it that it was a Twitter like thing this morning. Like I read it on the IT was like a bolt. It was on my bulletin board. Quote, UN quote.
fwazsolLet me find like I I can't find the source. Obviously right now as I'm driving, I want to be safe, but I'll find the source and I'll pin it up here when I get somewhere safe.
fwazsolWell, I have heard you know, there there were all those reports that they haven't been paying rent. So I figured there was something going on, but it'll be interesting to to hear where that winds up being, you know, I mean for that to actually be a factor. I mean I doubt it like interferes with the with their connections on their side, but I know there is a lot of chaos and confusion.
hellbendersmcOhh.
kitbaronessWell, there's the ICICD pipeline, who knows what that's you know, since the Elon come in how they because they've been doing rapid updates and I don't know their testing process. So the difference between an enterprise and the the dev environment should be clearly defined, but I don't know if Elon believes in that.
robertwhetselYeah, I.
fwazsolJust like some of the folks I know like to dev up in the production environment and wonder why shit don't work.
robertwhetselYep.
hellbendersmcWell, the one thing is, um, ever since the Twitter Blue badge changeover and their applications via iPhone and Android and Android wasn't accepted or it wasn't accepted with Twitter Blue services in Web services wasn't allowed. They activated that. So there's some miscommunication. RPC calls, less Twitter space narwhal was on. They actually crashed Twitter spaces for a while because RPC calls were.
kitbaronessJust so frequently, um, out of alignment for its packets. So that was another thing. So we're going to be a little bit wonky for a bit.
kitbaronessWell.
hellbendersmcYeah, no, they hired.
fwazsolWeird Scooby when Scooby.
robertwhetselYeah, when scobie social.
fwazsolWe did. It was. But The thing is, you know, Apple was screwing with us as much as anything else like you until we're on the saga phone, you know, all of a sudden it really is going to be different. Like it's going to be a different experience.
hellbendersmcI don't think there's anything we can do until we get that in our hand.
hellbendersmcPlease no.
fwazsolI I wonder if his move out of state and if it is taxes but just out of Cali in general has something to do with him. You know, rumored to try to create see the Dogecoin wallet integrated into Twitter. It is kind of like it's own social platform and certain licensings are required. And if he's actually in the heart of a certain state for its headquarters, then they have to comply.
kitbaronessHuh.
hellbendersmcYeah.
robertwhetselTalking about reverse the state, you know, rules and regulations has to comply because they want that business.
kitbaronessYeah, California is very, very.
robertwhetselSierra Bag, just buying a bunch of dodge. Sorry, pardon me.
fwazsolNo, no, no. It's gonna say California's rules and dealing with this type of things is overly complex and so one of the few places that it's very difficult to do technology transfer and even for the government, because we do tech transfer all over the world. California is one of the ones that it is the most pain in the ass to do any tech transfer.
robertwhetselSo I'm just Googling this and it looks like this is what's going on. It was all spurred by San Francisco's mattress probe, the fact that people were posting videos of couches being converted into.
hellbendersmcSeven quarters.
hellbendersmcSan Francisco doesn't allow people to live in their office.
hellbendersmcAnd so, apparently.
hellbendersmcFlorida Miami-Dade is is.
hellbendersmcFocusing on it.
hellbendersmcPeople, you know, Musk is also talking about Twitter about Texas, but it looks like that's what instigated the whole thing. I don't think they're it doesn't look like it's like imminent like they're packing it up, but it looks like it's the mattress probe that's.
hellbendersmcSpurring all this?
hellbendersmcI love, I love how it's just because of uh, mattresses and work from home policies.
fwazsolUm, sorry if you guys can hear me, but like, that's just. I'm sorry for misinforming there, I guess.
fwazsolWell, it's, I mean, it's interesting and and I was tweeting about this. I mean I I dealt with the whole.
hellbendersmcYou know, I've raised about $50 million in venture capital, and a lot of that was from blue Chip Silicon Valley VC's. And the culture of domination and exploitation is just so embedded. Like, I literally was getting calls for me it was 7:00 o'clock at night. You know, for them it was 4:00 PM and I'd say, hey, I'm having dinner with my family and they'd go, what the fuck?
hellbendersmcYou know, we need to be able to drive by your office at 11:00 o'clock and see all the cars in the parking lot and the lights still on, you know, that's what. And when I used to go and meet with Google, you know, it was all about like they would give you the tours with, you know, basically it was like.
hellbendersmcThe IKEA ballroom where you leave your kids. I mean, there's here's where you get your massages, here's where you have beanbag chairs, you know, the volleyball courts, the bikes connecting everything. Umm, you know, they they try and give you this idea. I mean, it's infantilization, you know, you're just supposed to do this one thing.
hellbendersmcAnd it's just not a life. And it's really interesting. When we when we decided to build hellbenders from the ground up, I really started thinking even what was wrong with Scobee as a corporate.
hellbendersmcEntity.
hellbendersmcAnd I didn't even want it contaminated with, you know, having investors and all of that. So what we're doing is by making it a Colorado coop, you know, we're still going to need scobies technology but the relationships between.
hellbendersmcThe coop and this other entity is going to be managed by Dows on both sides. And we're just, you know, I just think it's the only way to go forward where everything, all the protocols are open source, all the software is open source, and all the major decisions are made by users and members and not someone who, you know, thinks they're a master of the universe.
hellbendersmcWell, I don't know. Is Hellbenders going to be a registered LLC? Dow by any chance? Do we know?
fwazsolOr do do you know mother?
fwazsolOhh OK, gotcha.
fwazsolOhh, it's not a it's not an LLC. I mean, a Colorado cooperative is a thing. The If you Google it, Colorado is basically trying to become the Delaware of cooperatives. I mean, Delaware, yeah, so basically.
hellbendersmcFrom.
fwazsolWhat Delaware is to LLC's and C corporations and all that. Colorado has these rules where if you're a Colorado cooperative, it just makes it really, really easy to run something like a Dow. And a lot of people haven't caught on to that, but I think almost all Dows are going to wind up being Colorado cooperatives if they actually want to be member run.
hellbendersmcI see you're saying.
fwazsolSo David, did you, did you know that crypto versus was founded in Colorado two years ago?
robertwhetselAs as what type of organization?
hellbendersmcIt was originally founded as an LLC.
robertwhetselYes.
robertwhetselYeah, and I think it makes sense for that. I mean you're, it's a game company and and that doesn't, you know, I mean you probably don't want all of the players you know, designing your game. I mean that's just sort of a different thing.
hellbendersmcNo, but we are going to run that experiment with the versus infected because.
robertwhetselThe players would actually as they play.
robertwhetselYep.
fwazsolThe gameplay that they do will be rewritten into the books and the storyline. So you know David the the hellbender can roll in and and clear out the bar zombies and that's in the game right. That's the mission you could accomplished and then you know that could actually be rewritten back into the book series for you know another chapter within a one of the books. And so now the players are now part of the the the creative content that's being provided for the rest of the game.
robertwhetselLike in the back stories.
robertwhetselYeah and and and just to speak on that we're actually chicken tribe is a Dow LLC in Wyoming, UM and it's it's running on kind of like the same same structure as what what Robert just mentioned.
fwazsolYeah, I looked at the LLC and I thought about it and we're actually separately. So we're we've applied for a now. I'm weirdly actually a corporate structure geek. Like it's really fascinating.
hellbendersmcYou can deal with these different entities and we're going to, we, we also set up an LLC, which is called Hellbenders Dow LLC, and it's actually going to be we're going to crowdfund investment in real estate for Solana spaces. So you know, a lot of people want to set up.
hellbendersmcSolana space is it's a really cool idea to really cool business model to really cool down. But I was thinking well.
hellbendersmcJust like McDonald's. Like the way Ray Kroc made a shit ton of money, wasn't on the restaurants but was on the dirt beneath it. So what if we had a Dow that anybody could buy into, you know, for?
hellbendersmc350 bucks or something, you know, we'll make the minimum and what. And we can raise in equity crowdfunding up to $5 million. So we have all the paperwork done. I even got an inception audit because you need an audit to to raise $5 million. But right after we do.
hellbendersmcThe Hellbenders launch, we're gonna have a hellbenders.
hellbendersmcLLC, where people can actually invest in something super solid and long term, like real estate. Because what's cool is even if the salana space itself fails, you know we've got real estate and all these cool markets.
hellbendersmcAnd and hellbender clubhouses.
robertwhetselExactly. Yeah, that's that's was my thought. It's like.
hellbendersmcYou know, we actually have a little place within all these salano spaces. That's for us. And the other thing I'm really into right now is.
hellbendersmcThe.
hellbendersmcDigital nomad culture, you know, Co working, Co living. I did, you know, spent a couple weeks Co living and Co working in Europe recently before break point. And there's no question that that's just.
hellbendersmcGonna be the way everything works, that just real estate is going to be completely fluid and people are just going to, you know, set up all kinds of networks where they stay and work and live.
hellbendersmcNow these individual chapters, because you have them in real life, um.
kitbaronessWhich locations do you currently have?
kitbaronessWell, right now, and we've really just focused on, um, New York. Well, West Virginia where I'm from, we focused on West Virginia and New York. We got a bunch of amazing people in New York. We got a bunch of amazing people in Miami and a bunch of amazing people in LA. So those were kind of the starting points.
hellbendersmcOK, so.
kitbaronessDon't forget DC. Don't forget DC.
robertwhetselYep.
hellbendersmcWell, all of them are US based.
kitbaronessSo yeah so far.
robertwhetselExactly. Right now, yeah.
hellbendersmcYeah.
robertwhetselOK.
kitbaronessSo yeah, DC and, and don't forget very soon, Colorado.
robertwhetselYeah, but and but to your point kit, the way I was actually thinking about this and it all depends probably not going to make it out to Istanbul although I really wanted to. But it's just the timing is to it's right when we're launching and I just don't know if I want to put money into the travel versus just put it all into the launch, but the idea is that at the hacker houses.
hellbendersmcWe could be you know, basically setting up hellbenders chapters at each hacker house, you know, so we get Hellbenders Istanbul, hellbenders Melbourne, Hellbenders Hong Kong. You know, that to me is is an amazing way to go global. I really, I mean I went to NFT New York, I went to NFT week Miami, you know I've been to.
hellbendersmcI went to vcon.
hellbendersmcBut there's just nothing was even close to the value of a hacker house. I mean, it just, it was a completely different vibe, and you're with people who are builders and creators and you know it. It's completely the audience we want.
hellbendersmcExactly. Well, I was just wondering the structure of how you're going to do it.
kitbaronessStill still left out a little bit aloof because, you know, I know that you create your dolls and so forth, but when it comes to chapters and like proposals and votings and, you know, allocations of the Dow fund and so forth, it I didn't know if it opened up a strategy for other chapters to open up in internationals.
kitbaronessUh, with the voting of who? Who's the president of each chapter?
kitbaronessWell, that's actually going to be based on this idea of the brutes. So because we're going to know who.
hellbendersmcRecruited who? So if you recruit.
hellbendersmcA large number of people.
hellbendersmcYou know, then you've got your brood, you've got your chapter right there and you've got those votes overall in terms of the allocations. So it's getting really interesting like people when they read the final version of the black paper, we launched this this whole launchpad, you know, they'll know, OK, well, if I have and on the launchpad.
hellbendersmcYou can actually sort.
hellbendersmcBy brood size and you can sort by seniority, so you know people are going to see immediately.
hellbendersmcWhat's happening? What they need to do to get some more?
hellbendersmcSome more swag, some more sway before you hop up kit, I do want to say so it's 415. Hopefully we're going to be able to do a drawing at the bottom of the hour. In order to do that, we need to get some more people in here. So we need 10 people in to able to do the drawing and we need 10 retweets in order to do the drawing. So flaws, you might want to set up that Twitter picker now and see how close we are.
hellbendersmcAnd let's try and get some more people in, because the what's up on the Jumbotron? Whoever wins gets to pick from these 4 hellbenders. And if you're holding one of these hellbenders, you get a free mint in our public mint, and you're also going to get one of the first mints in it. We're doing this meant completely differently, where you actually get to choose your traits as long as they last so the people who are in earliest.
hellbendersmcAnd minting is also going to be by seniority and brood size. So if you're in earliest and if you've built the biggest brood, you're going to actually be able to choose your traits. And some of these traits, there's only going to be three or four of them.
hellbendersmcAnd so you know.
hellbendersmcCan I get a neck and hellbender?
robertwhetselActually, you know the the tidy whities on the man are part of it, and the two piece is is part of that. So you know publicly you're going to have to use some AI in order to get get annuity hell Bender.
hellbendersmcI'm just saying.
robertwhetselI don't know if we really want to all be seeing your hellbender Winky.
hellbendersmcI have a 3 year old grandson. I see enough little winkies running around the house.
hellbendersmcI'm not gonna lie, I was curious to see the layers, so I opened it up and I tried to see it naked.
kitbaronessThat's funny.
hellbendersmcYou know, I was about to say something, but I will let that go kit.
robertwhetselThat is funny. Maybe, maybe I will. I will ask Nat Jones to actually produce some lady parts and man parts just, you know, we'll we'll have them hidden that you can only undress your own or something.
hellbendersmcThat's funny.
kitbaronessRemember I got that. I got that Viking heritage, so you know Thors hammer is.
robertwhetselEvening.
robertwhetselWell, I was curious because I got the the the purple salamander that has a.
kitbaronessHis tie ties and it has that mass. I took the mask off and like ohh she's pretty.
kitbaronessThat's funny. That's super funny. Well on her. So you can't actually replace the clothing. So the one with Tatas only has that outfit right now. Umm, so where, you know, could change in the future, but that's how it works right now. So I would like everybody would I just put up on the Jumbotron to retweet that. Let's see if we can't get 10 people in.
hellbendersmcUh, so we can do a drawing? I mean, if there's only 10 people, you have a pretty good chance of of winning a hellbender.
hellbendersmcArt pilot you know, it looks like you're in pesky Penguins and thug birds and a bunch of other things, so maybe you can get some of your.
hellbendersmcYou're.
hellbendersmcFriends and you also have to be following hellbenders. I follow everybody who's here, so all you gotta do is follow back and.
hellbendersmcCoba, maybe? And get some more cats on Kraken here for the final 15 minutes for this drawing. Everything's gonna blow up on February 3rd, 2023, so you guys are super early and you're going to have the chance. You're going to be one of the first to get your fake ID.
hellbendersmcYou're gonna need a fake ID to mint and awesome. I'm totally happy Koba is coming up as a as a speaker. So introduce yourself, tell us your origin story.
hellbendersmcJim, Bro, I don't know if you understand me. I learn English from TC and translator. Eight months, you know, I'm an NFT's one year, but I think you understand me, guys.
kobadecimus13Immaculately.
kitbaronessOK.
kobadecimus13Absolutely. You're loud and clear. Yeah. What's your, what's your native tongue?
hellbendersmcWhat? My what?
kobadecimus13What's your native tongue? What's your your home language?
hellbendersmcMy home language is Polish and German, you know, I live in Germany, I was born in Poland. I'm 37 years old, you know. Yeah, and I'm normal worker and I come to NF's last year, you know, I have accident in the work and then I told my wife, hey, you must buy me a laptop, you know, I must refresh my skills on on this PC when my daughters are growing up, you know?
kobadecimus13To protect them from this all Internet shit. And then I come into an NFT's you know and I was my friends take me 3 years ago to crypto. You know I have invested a little bit and he told me a little bit how this work and and this coming its future and I can you know change a little bit of my life and then I have found NFTS for myself.
kobadecimus13But like you know, many guys they're jumping in, you know after some YouTube videos and and and shit talking and manipulations on Twitter. You know from this influencers I have seen a lot in one year. I have learned a lot.
kobadecimus13I can talk now, you know, I have some skills, some good skills to to see who's, you know, who's real or or do you know, they make, you know, show only. So that's my short story, how I come into NFD's. I have good days and bad days, you know.
kobadecimus13But many scams you know when I was new the the you can you know you buy something and you think uh, now I I have this like bored ape, you know you have three guys from other project on YouTube, how they selling, you know these apps from from 100 thousands of dollars. Then you see the gas fees. So I was also on ether then you know, I don't know what this is. I have pain from from some shit monkeys. You know this was a Rook I have paid €400 or something.
kobadecimus13Then I have found Solano. You know, magic hidden.
kobadecimus13And then I had I stay on till today with Solana, you know.
kobadecimus13And I'm happy. I have met a lot of guys, you know, I have met a lot good people what help me, you know, away with my.
kobadecimus13To have better skills you know in web three to read charts and how this all you know.
kobadecimus13How this all all going forward?
kobadecimus13Let's see.
kobadecimus13That's a great story. Very hard. Sorry to hear about your accident, but are you are you at the point where?
hellbendersmcWeb Three is substantially contributing to your income and and is it is it really helped you?
hellbendersmcWhat I can say to income now I'm one year you know and now I starting to make some profits you know because I was I am a guy you know I I'm a little bit how can I say this I'm trust to to fast people you know.
kobadecimus13And I'm coming to NFD's. I hold a long projects, you know a lot of projects and then I see only you know the floor price dropping. I don't know what to do or to sell or to be you know cool with with my homies in the discord and and be you know to the owners you know.
kobadecimus13Like old rules, motherfucker.
kobadecimus13Yeah, well, what?
hellbendersmcYeah, I'm. I'm from the old one.
kobadecimus13Yeah, I really like. So I'm gonna be really interested in seeing what you do with hellbenders because the way we design this is the money you make isn't based on the floor price. So there we have a protocol, social crypto syndication, where the people, you know if you meant your fake ID.
hellbendersmcAnd you share your own personal link and cats on crack and you know you have a bunch of friends there when they come in and mint.
hellbendersmcYou actually immediately get royalty payments.
hellbendersmcAnd when we do the full mint, there's something like $600,000 of royalty payments that are going to be distributed. So I'm just really curious like those people who we've been talking about this a lot, we're just really wondering who the first person?
hellbendersmcTo make seven figures on this protocol is gonna be like, and who knows, it could be you. So we're just. We're just.
hellbendersmcYeah, stay with us. Like, pay attention.
hellbendersmcYour English is fabulous.
hellbendersmcYou know, my only problem is my language, you know, because I I speak German. I live in German now 40 years. I stay here, you know, with my family. But I go to Poland also to to visit my family. But I stay here and you know, I see I learned only from discourse, from listen to spaces, from I also writing English. You know, I I must learn this when I start coming to NFTS. I must learn of writing on on this court and always copy paste.
kobadecimus13Copy paste. Do you know?
kobadecimus13Your English is fabulous.
hellbendersmcWhen you really want to know, I sleep. I sleep from far.
kobadecimus13Yeah, your English is better than your English is better than mine, bro. So you're good.
robertwhetselYeah.
hellbendersmcSure.
hellbendersmcYeah, but I don't understand everything, you know? And when you're talking. I also put my translator on my PC when I don't understand some words. And then this, you know, this translator hear what you say and then I can read.
kobadecimus13Well cool.
hellbendersmcWhat you what you have told you know.
kobadecimus13Well, the other thing is, you know, there's going to be a Berlin hacker house, for example, you know, so I mean, you could wind up being a real leader in that particular community. What town are you in? How far are you from Berlin?
hellbendersmcYeah.
hellbendersmcHow far I'm from Berlin, I think now.
kobadecimus13300 kilometers or something. You know I'm in Bayern.
kobadecimus13OK.
hellbendersmcYou know by buyer, you know, buyer, I am nearing munish, 100 kilometres to Minish.
kobadecimus13OK, cool. Yeah. So I mean, it's two things. And and it's something I'm always interested in. How?
hellbendersmcHow much it winds up being virtual versus how much face to face relationships wind up working. I mean most of the people I only see.
hellbendersmcYou know, I've seen flaws a couple of times at hacker houses. I happen to live not too far from Rob, but you know, there aren't very many people here that.
hellbendersmcThat I've met.
hellbendersmcGazoon tight, we told them. Germany.
kobadecimus13Thank you. Yeah.
hellbendersmcAwesome.
hellbendersmcAll right, we got John Wick back, which is awesome. Um.
hellbendersmcAnd 246810 so we got 10 people. Let's quick while we're here do this drug.
hellbendersmcAwesome.
hellbendersmcWait a minute, I try to bring you MGD here. Here are cool guy. Give me a minute.
kobadecimus13OK, well while we're doing that flaws how we looking on the Twitter picker.
hellbendersmcOh, flaws. You're not up on stage or rob, you can do the Twitter picker.
hellbendersmcI'm not on the laptop. I'm on my phone. Hold on, I go. Let me go in there.
robertwhetselOK, well then you get to teach me how to do it. Now I want to do it and we're done. Twitter picker. OK, so I'm going to go to twitterpicker.com, right?
hellbendersmcAnd I.
hellbendersmcTake a tweet first.
hellbendersmcThe tweet that we're retweeting, right?
hellbendersmcYep, you take. What you do is you go to that URL, you put it in the Twitter picker and send it it. You say Nets and then it.
robertwhetselBut you got enough or not enough, and then you say go and then you'll you'll have somebody that will roll up. It didn't who tweeted, who did not follow everybody. So there they'll be discord, you know, disqualified.
robertwhetselAnd you just picked the first one that's qualified.
robertwhetselOK, so I think let me just find the.
hellbendersmcOK, so.
hellbendersmcHere is the tweet.
hellbendersmcCopy link to tweet. I'm going to go in the Twitter picker. I'm going to drop it and load tweet.
hellbendersmcAnd what's it gonna tell me?
hellbendersmcSo it must follow hellbenders.
hellbendersmcLet me see.
hellbendersmcWinner Count 1.
hellbendersmcSo.
hellbendersmcWhat?
hellbendersmcIt's still giving me like this red thing, but I don't so options. I don't need to change anything here.
hellbendersmcI I don't normally.
robertwhetselWait, user interactions 100 plus that.
hellbendersmcYeah, you don't want that.
robertwhetselUm, any? OK um.
hellbendersmcProfile must have a picture.
hellbendersmcUm, to account account age. OK, I think we're good. So.
hellbendersmcUm, entries. OK, so we got 10 entries here, so that's good.
hellbendersmcUm.
hellbendersmcAnd I think so. I see Greens entered.
hellbendersmcKoba asked the doctor.
hellbendersmcLooks like we got everybody. Although I don't see. Yeah, I see Kobe. Yeah, I think I see everybody so.
hellbendersmcI'm going to go and we're going to go ahead and do a drawing.
hellbendersmcBegin drawing process for names to appear.
hellbendersmcWhat does that mean?
hellbendersmcLook at the bottom, you select it and go.
robertwhetselLook at the bottom. What do you mean?
hellbendersmcAt the bottom of the screen it should have next or something.
robertwhetselNo, it just has back. Ohh begin draw duh. OK.
hellbendersmcYes, Kit, once again.
hellbendersmcKid, kid one again.
robertwhetselGet one again. And she's not a host today, so she gets it, so you get to pick.
hellbendersmcGod damn it, kid.
robertwhetselShe now controls the Dow.
robertwhetselShe is. She is the Dow Queen at this point in time.
robertwhetselWard.
robertwhetselYeah.
robertwhetselThis is her third win and she had won before, but she was a well yeah, but one of them was disqualified.
hellbendersmcRight, well, she was disqualified 2 times before because she was anyway.
robertwhetselThat this is insane.
robertwhetselIt is.
hellbendersmcI want you to I'll give you my password. You log in as me and do whatever you're doing. Do it with my mind, because I don't win shit.
robertwhetselLet me remind everybody.
hellbendersmcYou know, I'm just checking. So, John Wick, you're not following hellbenders. You want to be doing that?
hellbendersmcArt pilot, you're not following hell benders. You want to be doing that, you know cause where this could be a big deal you know and it's you're early so we're still six weeks away.
hellbendersmcFrom from launch, but next week we're launching our launchpad which is going to have a fake ID minting booth.
hellbendersmcAnd you're going to need a hellbender. I mean, you're going to need a fake ID to mid to hellbender and we're going to start building out this whole network. So really appreciate you guys joining. And I don't know, you know, these are fun. I don't think we're going to be doing them every day.
hellbendersmcBut I'm back to thinking, um, as soon as we get this launchpad up, I think we're going to start doing them reasonably frequently.
hellbendersmcSo thanks again everybody for joining Koba. Thanks for sharing your story. Definitely want wanna keep you close and be safe out there.
hellbendersmcThank you man.
kobadecimus13I stay here and let's see what's coming.
kobadecimus13Alright, thanks so much.
hellbendersmcAnd when you see need some support, you know in Germany because I see a lot of potential in Germany, you know the people don't know how this work and and people don't talk a lot in Germany about NFTS, you know, but I know in Germany I are a lot investors and they have a lot of liquidity and when they're coming to Solana.
kobadecimus13You can see, you know, a real pump when the people realize it. What's coming? Well, what the future is and what blockchain can give to him. You know what what for? Opportunities to to start new businesses.
kobadecimus13Yeah.
kobadecimus13Awesome. Well, I'm looking. It looks like the Berlin hacker house.
hellbendersmcWell, that's last year I think. I don't know. Let's plan. Let's plan for you to dominate the Berlin hacker house and for us to sponsor you. So in about a week you'll start building up your brood.
hellbendersmcAll right. Take care, everybody.
hellbendersmc