2022-10-07T19:01:46.548Z Blue2black:  And today we will be looking at.
2022-10-07T19:02:00.892Z Blue2black:  The influence of our global community and besides the influence, also what is our role in terms of the artistic revolution?
2022-10-07T19:02:03.1Z Blue2black:  Hiya, how you doing today?
2022-10-07T19:02:05.895Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:02:08.387Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:02:18.093Z Blue2black:  Good to see you again now. Have you been doing?
2022-10-07T19:02:21.599Z AyatheArtist:  Um, been doing good. Busy with school.
2022-10-07T19:02:28.262Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:02:28.481Z Blue2black:  That's good. That's good. That's good, yeah. So what have you been up to? Have you made any art recently?
2022-10-07T19:02:34.007Z AyatheArtist:  Well, I did mean our recently, uh, a colleague and Kane.
2022-10-07T19:02:41.854Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:02:42.067Z Blue2black:  I was. I'll get posted on top there. Let me have a look again, because I think that was the one you did last time, wasn't it?
2022-10-07T19:02:48.216Z AyatheArtist:  I did that. No. Uh. I did a new one with two days ago.
2022-10-07T19:02:50.477Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:02:52.465Z Blue2black:  Ohh yeah put it on top there. Let's see how it looks.
2022-10-07T19:02:54.249Z AyatheArtist:  You could see it.
2022-10-07T19:02:57.738Z Blue2black:  I think I already, uh, already retweeted it.
2022-10-07T19:03:00.189Z Blue2black:  But yeah, it's let's have a look.
2022-10-07T19:03:02.863Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:03:09.663Z Blue2black:  You know how to share it on top.
2022-10-07T19:03:12.596Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:03:18.512Z Blue2black:  And then I see we got valid. How are you doing today? Valid.
2022-10-07T19:03:20.732Z AyatheArtist:  Hi, valid.
2022-10-07T19:03:25.779Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:03:29.409Z AyatheArtist:  And we have it is haiku.
2022-10-07T19:03:33.489Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:03:37.745Z Blue2black:  Haiku, yeah. What an interesting girl. She's actually all the way from Japan, and she teaches classes in haiku and.
2022-10-07T19:03:39.994Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:03:41.675Z AyatheArtist:  Uh, I I already guessed it. I mean, I was learning about it in school.
2022-10-07T19:03:43.242Z AyatheArtist:  Hi, valet.
2022-10-07T19:03:43.613Z Blue2black:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:03:52.303Z Blue2black:  I got it. Why didn't you introduce yourself there quickly and then we quickly got to you. I could also introduce yourself.
2022-10-07T19:03:54.452Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:03:55.698Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:03:59.94Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:04:01.807Z Blue2black:  Valid. You want to introduce yourself there quickly.
2022-10-07T19:04:03.224Z AyatheArtist:  Hi, haiku.
2022-10-07T19:04:08.085Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:04:09.876Z 8kromitsu8:  Hello.
2022-10-07T19:04:15.524Z 8kromitsu8:  Hello. Nice to meet you. Yeah, and then, uh, nice. Nice to see you again, blue.
2022-10-07T19:04:17.469Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:04:19.737Z Blue2black:  Nice to see you again. Yeah, also tell us about.
2022-10-07T19:04:20.174Z AyatheArtist:  Hi, hunkle.
2022-10-07T19:04:23.395Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:04:29.888Z Blue2black:  So I could please tell us about yourself. Uh, later introduce yourself to to Aya and the others.
2022-10-07T19:04:33.834Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:04:35.225Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:04:41.708Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh okay um I'm I'm you. I mean my name is you so please call me you. And that's why my community's name is use haiku.
2022-10-07T19:04:43.453Z 8kromitsu8:  And the.
2022-10-07T19:04:47.75Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:04:49.659Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:04:54.209Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:04:54.216Z 8kromitsu8:  And I'm a Japanese, I'm a I'm a Japanese doing the calligraphy artist art and in in a traditional way.
2022-10-07T19:04:57.555Z 8kromitsu8:  Japanese calligraphy. I mean and.
2022-10-07T19:04:57.906Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:04:59.013Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:05:00.174Z 8kromitsu8:  Also I'm poet.
2022-10-07T19:05:02.052Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:05:08.003Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:05:07.726Z 8kromitsu8:  So I'm writing a hike. Hikers. I want in the Japanese style, Japanese style of poetry.
2022-10-07T19:05:09.385Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:05:12.814Z 8kromitsu8:  And yeah, and I often often to spaces.
2022-10-07T19:05:17.499Z 8kromitsu8:  To enjoy haiku and I.
2022-10-07T19:05:18.852Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:05:21.914Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:05:21.394Z 8kromitsu8:  I always, I always make a.
2022-10-07T19:05:27.111Z 8kromitsu8:  Japanese, Japanese calligraphy, haiku, art, and make any of these too.
2022-10-07T19:05:30.621Z 8kromitsu8:  Yes, and also I.
2022-10-07T19:05:32.962Z 8kromitsu8:  I teach.
2022-10-07T19:05:35.567Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:05:34.854Z 8kromitsu8:  I'm a kind of.
2022-10-07T19:05:41.597Z 8kromitsu8:  I'm I'm going to become a bridge of.
2022-10-07T19:05:52.718Z 8kromitsu8:  People from the other countries and the Japanese people because Japanese people, there are so many Japanese people who cannot speak English. So.
2022-10-07T19:05:54.812Z 8kromitsu8:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:06:10.103Z AsefiValid:  Alright guys.
2022-10-07T19:06:13.151Z AsefiValid:  
2022-10-07T19:06:13.26Z Blue2black:  Yeah. So, so you actually really introduce us to Aiko and why didn't you talk about Aiko and do post one on top to show us, because you actually taught me what ago is. I actually had widely different understanding of it. And I think it's quite important for you to really kind of tell us about this.
2022-10-07T19:06:16.763Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:06:18.573Z 8kromitsu8:  Okay, thank you.
2022-10-07T19:06:19.792Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:06:20.629Z 8kromitsu8:  Is is it okay I mean?
2022-10-07T19:06:22.172Z AyatheArtist:  Hi, valet.
2022-10-07T19:06:22.521Z Blue2black:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:06:27.653Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:06:31.677Z AsefiValid:  Hi, my name's Wally. I'm from young. I am physically disabled in the in the winter.
2022-10-07T19:06:33.992Z AsefiValid:  I am new to NSD.
2022-10-07T19:06:41.394Z AsefiValid:  I for connection open see my English is very poor. I use Google Translate.
2022-10-07T19:06:50.206Z AsefiValid:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:06:50.98Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh, it's it's fine. Everybody is trying to learn English. English it is quite alright. We don't mind it.
2022-10-07T19:06:53.34Z Blue2black:  Yeah, I'm not.
2022-10-07T19:06:54.314Z AsefiValid:  Then please paint with me.
2022-10-07T19:06:55.6Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:06:57.349Z AsefiValid:  Paint with me a little bit.
2022-10-07T19:07:00.451Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, I'm talking to you.
2022-10-07T19:07:03.702Z AsefiValid:  Hash tag masami.
2022-10-07T19:07:06.2Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:07:09.886Z AsefiValid:  
2022-10-07T19:07:21.539Z Blue2black:  Now, uh, valid. I actually, really, I've invited you here because I really need to talk to you, and I feel it's quite important for me to really make you understand why it's so important for me to talk to the artist from Iran.
2022-10-07T19:07:30.938Z Blue2black:  But before I do that, before I actually get to, you know, the importance of, you know, you as an artist of Iran.
2022-10-07T19:07:39.258Z Blue2black:  Let us quickly just finish with you and then I wanna give you all the attention that you deserve. Is that OK? Valid.
2022-10-07T19:07:47.239Z Blue2black:  And then I just want to remind everybody that this is a recorded space and that.
2022-10-07T19:08:18.134Z Blue2black:  I do hope that everybody will be behaving nicely, but yeah, do consider it your these, these recordings will be available later for interpretation and so forth and just gonna have to make you so make you know that you will be recorded in the speech. Okay. So let me just roll it. I'm just quickly going to go back to you to just kind of have her explain to us just a little bit more about haiku. Are you okay with that?
2022-10-07T19:08:24.416Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:08:25.712Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:08:35.957Z 8kromitsu8:  Okay, thank you for that blue thank you for letting me speak. Okay. So let me explain the what is haiku? What the haiku is in the haiku isn't one of the name of the form of Japanese.
2022-10-07T19:08:57.597Z 8kromitsu8:  Poetry, as I said before, and this is this form is really short, like just three lines and then one and the first line is 5 syllables and next second line is 7 syllables and third line 5 syllables, again SO575 syllables.
2022-10-07T19:09:01.625Z 8kromitsu8:  So it's this is it, and it's really.
2022-10-07T19:09:02.991Z 8kromitsu8:  Shot.
2022-10-07T19:09:04.397Z 8kromitsu8:  And.
2022-10-07T19:09:10.322Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:09:09.933Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:09:09.051Z 8kromitsu8:  And the second rules and then we.
2022-10-07T19:09:15.99Z 8kromitsu8:  We, we, we want, we have to put the we have to use the word that describes the seasons.
2022-10-07T19:09:22.025Z 8kromitsu8:  Like Snow for Winter and Christmas for winter too and.
2022-10-07T19:09:22.731Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:09:27.224Z 8kromitsu8:  Like a cherry blossom will be spring.
2022-10-07T19:09:31.01Z 8kromitsu8:  Something like this?
2022-10-07T19:09:32.124Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:09:36.104Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:09:46.188Z 8kromitsu8:  So use that. Use those route to rules so you can write haiku in any other languages.
2022-10-07T19:09:48.771Z 8kromitsu8:  So.
2022-10-07T19:09:52.206Z 8kromitsu8:  In my community that there are so many.
2022-10-07T19:09:55.792Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:09:58.736Z 8kromitsu8:  For like various country from, from various countries and.
2022-10-07T19:10:09.256Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:10:08.714Z 8kromitsu8:  Like I, I just counted. It's over 10 countries I found yes in my community, so I've.
2022-10-07T19:10:20.848Z 8kromitsu8:  Japanese of course. Japanese Haiku and English haiku, Portuguese haiku, Spanish haiku. And I watch for the in the Hindi.
2022-10-07T19:10:22.557Z 8kromitsu8:  So.
2022-10-07T19:10:27.7Z 8kromitsu8:  I want to explore. I want to share the.
2022-10-07T19:10:35.399Z 8kromitsu8:  The beauty and the the joyful of the joy of.
2022-10-07T19:10:39.689Z 8kromitsu8:  Haiku Japanese haiku so.
2022-10-07T19:10:41.747Z 8kromitsu8:  That's why I'm doing this.
2022-10-07T19:10:45.939Z Blue2black:  OK, but.
2022-10-07T19:10:46.932Z AyatheArtist:  That is really beautiful.
2022-10-07T19:10:49.733Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:10:55.27Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:10:59.622Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:10:57.976Z Blue2black:  Okay, so everybody here you go. You need that's. Am I correct? Now just to correct me if I'm wrong, it is 575, am I correct?
2022-10-07T19:11:00.18Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:01.06Z 8kromitsu8:  Yes, 575.
2022-10-07T19:11:04.88Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:06.918Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:09.608Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:13.343Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:20.108Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:25.268Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:28.327Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:32.61Z Blue2black:  So in English terms, it's 5 words, 7 words, 5 words. And then you have to bring in a like a term that defines the season. So like she was saying snow or something like that, that kind of refers to the time of the year that you are expressing this kind of wonderful kind of opinion about. And you also do this thing where you do Japanese and English haiku that can be written both languages. You want to give us an example of that?
2022-10-07T19:11:34.575Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:35.911Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh okay yes.
2022-10-07T19:11:37.752Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:37.79Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:11:39.889Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:11:40.804Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:41.826Z Blue2black:  Yes.
2022-10-07T19:11:42.772Z 8kromitsu8:  And then the 575 syllables and let me quit and yes.
2022-10-07T19:11:43.967Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:11:46.481Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:49.057Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:11:48.095Z 8kromitsu8:  The okay so I'm gonna share one of the.
2022-10-07T19:11:53.007Z 8kromitsu8:  Japan, English and Japanese haiku like.
2022-10-07T19:11:59.537Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:12:00.568Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:12:01.384Z 8kromitsu8:  So like.
2022-10-07T19:12:03.45Z 8kromitsu8:  Hold on.
2022-10-07T19:12:13.617Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:12:10.007Z 8kromitsu8:  I write.
2022-10-07T19:12:14.36Z 8kromitsu8:  Haiku everyday recently. As soon as maybe last.
2022-10-07T19:12:21.734Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:12:16.34Z 8kromitsu8:  Next month.
2022-10-07T19:12:19.569Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh it's it's OK take your time.
2022-10-07T19:12:20.719Z 8kromitsu8:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:12:24.085Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:12:23.203Z 8kromitsu8:  Thank you and.
2022-10-07T19:12:26.783Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:12:28.095Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:12:32.788Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:12:32.993Z AyatheArtist:  I was actually kinda in elementary school. I was actually learning quite a bit about how yeku, so this really got me interested.
2022-10-07T19:12:39.643Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:12:39.631Z Blue2black:  So now you're gonna write some haiku as well afterwards, are ya?
2022-10-07T19:12:42.149Z 8kromitsu8:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:12:49.953Z AyatheArtist:  Well, I kind of did in elementary school when we had for homework. He's kinda cringy. It was so cringy.
2022-10-07T19:12:53.732Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:12:53.539Z 8kromitsu8:  Well, but I'd love to will.
2022-10-07T19:13:12.278Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:13:05.599Z 8kromitsu8:  Maybe you don't come and join my my space hike space. Yes, and maybe let me listen to just one trying to make.
2022-10-07T19:13:08.34Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:13:10.948Z 8kromitsu8:  Okay, okay. So this is 8.
2022-10-07T19:13:14.762Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:13:14.819Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:13:16.128Z 8kromitsu8:  Need to in UK English version of Haiku goes like this.
2022-10-07T19:13:20.215Z 8kromitsu8:  Look up the sky high.
2022-10-07T19:13:25.792Z 8kromitsu8:  It was the air of summer heat. Then let my heart fire.
2022-10-07T19:13:33.394Z 8kromitsu8:  Look up the sky high. Feel the air of summer heat. Then let my heart fire.
2022-10-07T19:13:44.352Z 8kromitsu8:  This is the English version and I may translate this haiku Japan English haiku into Japanese and the.
2022-10-07T19:13:45.294Z AyatheArtist:  Is.
2022-10-07T19:13:46.824Z 8kromitsu8:  It's also still haiku.
2022-10-07T19:13:49.877Z 8kromitsu8:  Hi.
2022-10-07T19:13:52.376Z AyatheArtist:  You is there any chances you could say it in Japanese?
2022-10-07T19:13:55.215Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:13:58.56Z 8kromitsu8:  It's possible. I mean, that's my kind of.
2022-10-07T19:13:59.19Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:13:59.783Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:14:01.99Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:14:02.119Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:14:03.132Z 8kromitsu8:  Playing for for now like.
2022-10-07T19:14:06.934Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:14:07.097Z 8kromitsu8:  Usually it's kind of challenging.
2022-10-07T19:14:09.67Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:14:11.416Z Blue2black:  That's that's usually what.
2022-10-07T19:14:10.564Z 8kromitsu8:  I don't like that.
2022-10-07T19:14:20.634Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:14:17.689Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:14:23.426Z Blue2black:  And that makes you say unique because you are able to write it in both languages. And is this one that you read, is it also one that's like Japanese and English?
2022-10-07T19:14:28.407Z 8kromitsu8:  Yes, Japanese and English.
2022-10-07T19:14:34.488Z 8kromitsu8:  I call it twins haiku throwing haiku because both of them are haiku.
2022-10-07T19:14:36.919Z Blue2black:  Yeah, both were nicer.
2022-10-07T19:14:37.996Z 8kromitsu8:  Not just the, just the translation. So.
2022-10-07T19:14:41.369Z Blue2black:  So give us the Japanese version. Let us hear that as well.
2022-10-07T19:14:43.178Z 8kromitsu8:  Type okay.
2022-10-07T19:14:45.261Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, I wanna really heard that.
2022-10-07T19:14:48.514Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:14:48.586Z 8kromitsu8:  Thank you. Yeah. Okay, I.
2022-10-07T19:14:50.353Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:14:51.723Z 8kromitsu8:  Okay, let me say this.
2022-10-07T19:14:53.36Z 8kromitsu8:  Salami again.
2022-10-07T19:14:57.389Z 8kromitsu8:  Kidero Kukini, tomaso Moi.
2022-10-07T19:14:59.913Z 8kromitsu8:  That's on me again.
2022-10-07T19:15:03.285Z 8kromitsu8:  He did ukuthini tomozo Moi.
2022-10-07T19:15:05.278Z 8kromitsu8:  Thank you.
2022-10-07T19:15:08.439Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:15:10.743Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:15:14.681Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:15:18.83Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:15:20.227Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:15:23.364Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:15:26.985Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh my goodness your your voice is so adorable. I think your Japanese voice is really adorable. I absolutely love it. And you you natural speaking is really great. Pronounced it, but also full of cuteness. I'm in love.
2022-10-07T19:15:30.517Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh thank you.
2022-10-07T19:15:32.442Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:15:34.576Z Blue2black:  Yeah. I asked.
2022-10-07T19:15:38.136Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:15:34.791Z AyatheArtist:  You're welcome, sweetie.
2022-10-07T19:15:43.176Z Blue2black:  I as of course, well it's really loves Japanese sculpture and South Pole, so you go really gave us a fan there, that's for sure.
2022-10-07T19:15:46.239Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:15:48.185Z AyatheArtist:  Sure.
2022-10-07T19:15:52.302Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:15:52.422Z Blue2black:  Yeah, and I see, I see valid. Just joined us again. So valid, valid.
2022-10-07T19:15:56.039Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:15:55.885Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:15:58.183Z Blue2black:  I really wanted to speak to you because you've got amazing artworks and I wanna know about your journey so.
2022-10-07T19:16:00.006Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:16:01.903Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:16:07.888Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:16:15.739Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:16:14.575Z Blue2black:  I've just sent you an invitation and uh yeah. So Jado, how are you doing? I just wanted to acknowledge you and learn nula. I just want to acknowledge you as well. Thank you once again for blessing us with your awesome presence. Thanks.
2022-10-07T19:16:15.67Z AyatheArtist:  Higher cheetah joy.
2022-10-07T19:16:21.043Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:16:21.059Z OcheidoJ:  Hi, good evening dear. How are you doing today?
2022-10-07T19:16:26.874Z AyatheArtist:  Hi Ochito, we we're doing fine. How are you doing, sweetie?
2022-10-07T19:16:29.29Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:16:29.361Z OcheidoJ:  Yeah, I'm doing just great.
2022-10-07T19:16:31.423Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:16:32.147Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:16:38.253Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:16:38.1Z OcheidoJ:  What's black? It's been while I've been in your space, and I'm happy to be here today. I've been listening to you too.
2022-10-07T19:16:41.015Z OcheidoJ:  Then he has a lovely voice.
2022-10-07T19:16:54.887Z Blue2black:  Well, thank you very much, but you are all lovely people and I'm just pleased to have you all around me. So that's the main thing, you know, I'm just glad and you know you.
2022-10-07T19:17:19.34Z Blue2black:  You, you said it best. You know, in this global community, you really travel, you know, you meet different people. You have this this openness of people wanting to know more about your culture and, you know, having these intercultural conversations with each other. And it's really good times. And that's why it's so interesting. Here we are talking to valid, straight from Iran and valid.
2022-10-07T19:17:23.439Z Blue2black:  Please, man, tell us about yourself. Let's let's start with that.
2022-10-07T19:17:35.144Z AyatheArtist:  Um, valid. Are you here?
2022-10-07T19:17:37.923Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:17:43.827Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:17:43.305Z Blue2black:  Yeah, sometimes the year 1 voice, but they don't hear another. So just to call out for him again there, please, Aya.
2022-10-07T19:17:46.308Z AyatheArtist:  Valley, are you there?
2022-10-07T19:17:52.281Z AsefiValid:  I'm here uh.
2022-10-07T19:17:53.018Z AsefiValid:  I can.
2022-10-07T19:17:52.795Z AyatheArtist:  Yay.
2022-10-07T19:17:56.981Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:17:59.772Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:17:59.204Z AsefiValid:  I can't speak English. I'm from Iran. I can speak Persian.
2022-10-07T19:18:01.634Z AsefiValid:  I can speak Arabic.
2022-10-07T19:18:04.323Z AyatheArtist:  Interesting. Keep going.
2022-10-07T19:18:14.751Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:18:36.261Z Blue2black:  Yes, we are. We listening? So tell us about yourself. Tell us how you make these odds. And you said that you're in a wheelchair. Tell us about that as well. You know. Tell us about your experience in life. And we want to get to know you. It's only a small room. I usually do only small rooms. So, you know, there will be people popping in over the night, over the course of the day. The night. But yeah, don't worry. Sit back, relax. You know, and, you know, just chill with us a moment. I want to ge
2022-10-07T19:18:38.448Z Blue2black:  Saying that I know valid.
2022-10-07T19:18:48.535Z Blue2black:  And you know, obviously already know Jado, and I know you and I know and LA Nuna and Aya, but I I don't know you yet. So now it's all about you.
2022-10-07T19:18:58.893Z Blue2black:  About let me just.
2022-10-07T19:18:59.87Z AyatheArtist:  Shall I call out for him again?
2022-10-07T19:19:01.302Z Blue2black:  Yes, please.
2022-10-07T19:19:05.478Z AyatheArtist:  Valid. You can speak.
2022-10-07T19:19:10.473Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:19:16.215Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh I.
2022-10-07T19:19:15.53Z 8kromitsu8:  He told us that he's using the translation, so maybe he's taking time.
2022-10-07T19:19:20.537Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh yeah my fault. Oops.
2022-10-07T19:19:23.152Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:19:27.849Z Blue2black:  While he does amazing artworks and I want you guys to really look at it.
2022-10-07T19:19:28.597Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:19:36.629Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:19:35.688Z AyatheArtist:  Come to think.
2022-10-07T19:19:39.596Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:19:42.185Z AyatheArtist:  This is.
2022-10-07T19:19:44.06Z Blue2black:  And The thing is, he brings awareness. Uh, he's participating in this really what I call the artistic revolution of Iran. And This is why it's so important to talk to him.
2022-10-07T19:19:46.021Z Blue2black:  Wait, can you hear me?
2022-10-07T19:19:57.338Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, this, this is what I call a reality. I am checking out Valids artwork and I must say they really are speaking so deep here.
2022-10-07T19:19:59.161Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:20:00.625Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:20:03.463Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:20:01.721Z Blue2black:  And then?
2022-10-07T19:20:02.184Z AsefiValid:  Thank you. Thank you.
2022-10-07T19:20:04.806Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:20:08.349Z Blue2black:  And La Nina la Nula, are you going to be cursed?
2022-10-07T19:20:09.516Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:20:10.681Z AyatheArtist:  Hello nullah.
2022-10-07T19:20:13.1Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:20:15.851Z LunulaNFTs:  Hello everyone, am I going to be a cohost?
2022-10-07T19:20:20.314Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:20:18.664Z LunulaNFTs:  Yes, I could be.
2022-10-07T19:20:18.155Z Blue2black:  Yes, because I've sent you.
2022-10-07T19:20:21.88Z Blue2black:  Then you can just comment when you want.
2022-10-07T19:20:23.67Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, joining girl.
2022-10-07T19:20:28.739Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:20:29.307Z LunulaNFTs:  Wow ohh thanks. This will be my official first time ever Co hosting.
2022-10-07T19:20:31.495Z Blue2black:  OK, well then, so I joined the club.
2022-10-07T19:20:32.902Z LunulaNFTs:  Thank you.
2022-10-07T19:20:34.301Z AyatheArtist:  I hope. I hope you're will enjoy it.
2022-10-07T19:20:36.408Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:20:38.656Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:20:37.153Z 8kromitsu8:  To me, you learn.
2022-10-07T19:20:40.381Z 8kromitsu8:  My love.
2022-10-07T19:20:40.292Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:20:40.988Z Blue2black:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:20:43.352Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:20:44.413Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:20:45.099Z AyatheArtist:  Lenola. Such a sweet cutie.
2022-10-07T19:20:49.183Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:20:48.726Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:20:50.22Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:20:50.638Z LunulaNFTs:  It's me, Crescent moon. That's what that word means. Crescent moon.
2022-10-07T19:20:51.779Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:20:53.356Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:20:54.209Z Blue2black:  Doesn't mean more time.
2022-10-07T19:20:54.22Z LunulaNFTs:  So it's kind of like Luna, really close to it.
2022-10-07T19:20:55.743Z 8kromitsu8:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:20:56.531Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:21:03.308Z AyatheArtist:  Luna. Yeah, my my house, my my cousin's name is actually Luna.
2022-10-07T19:21:04.657Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:21:06.802Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:21:06.03Z AyatheArtist:  So.
2022-10-07T19:21:06.37Z LunulaNFTs:  That's beautiful.
2022-10-07T19:21:08.633Z Blue2black:  OK, so.
2022-10-07T19:21:08.373Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, I.
2022-10-07T19:21:12.593Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:21:31.594Z Blue2black:  So, um la Nula, we are looking at valid's artworks and he's unable to really communicate to us. But I do invite you valid. If you understand what we are saying, I want you to try and comment because let me tell you this valid.
2022-10-07T19:21:39.73Z Blue2black:  During the course of the last few weeks, I would say I had the.
2022-10-07T19:21:40.964Z Blue2black:  The kind of.
2022-10-07T19:22:13.382Z Blue2black:  Awareness that made me see that Iran really is experiencing an artistic revolution and they are becoming really good and tuning in to the freedom of expression and the freedom of you as an artist having a voice and how that voice can sometimes represent more than you as an artist and it can touch on social economic.
2022-10-07T19:22:24.62Z Blue2black:  Contemporary issues that affect society and that the responsibilities of every artist in Iran now is.
2022-10-07T19:22:43.473Z Blue2black:  To really show their voice to the world and make it be meaningful. What about after Musa Armeni fades away? What legacy must be there? What changes should have taken effect? What was the role of her life in terms of Iran?
2022-10-07T19:22:47.438Z Blue2black:  And you know, did any change come?
2022-10-07T19:22:54.776Z Blue2black:  From her life was their development of arts and this is this is exactly where I feel.
2022-10-07T19:23:05.68Z Blue2black:  The Global Society really play a role where we really have this ability to influence.
2022-10-07T19:23:09.684Z Blue2black:  The role of art in Iran.
2022-10-07T19:23:13.199Z Blue2black:  And how we can actually develop.
2022-10-07T19:23:17.405Z Blue2black:  The art of Iran through.
2022-10-07T19:23:20.144Z Blue2black:  The Web 3 space through.
2022-10-07T19:23:27.396Z Blue2black:  Nfd and through these type of things and I do feel that there is then you know.
2022-10-07T19:23:31.36Z Blue2black:  Does it help? Does it does it change anything? You know?
2022-10-07T19:23:40.077Z Blue2black:  That's why I feel it's important for the people to be in the limelight, the people to be in the spotlight is you, you, the artist of Iran.
2022-10-07T19:23:48.105Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:23:46.462Z Blue2black:  That is now really representing an artistic revolution of Iran.
2022-10-07T19:23:49.533Z Blue2black:  Do you understand what I'm saying? Value.
2022-10-07T19:23:54.853Z AyatheArtist:  I hope so. I guess that was a really nice speech you had there.
2022-10-07T19:24:00.62Z Blue2black:  Let me tell you.
2022-10-07T19:24:05.169Z AyatheArtist:  Also we have also we have a new number here, pinwheels.
2022-10-07T19:24:06.339Z Blue2black:  Yeah, I've been there.
2022-10-07T19:24:08.621Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:24:10.451Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:24:11.328Z pinwheelinghoca:  Hey.
2022-10-07T19:24:18.142Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:24:22.913Z Blue2black:  Yeah, I've been Wales, yeah. So you see, this is it. We are all kind of in a global community here. So I've been wheels. Just quickly introduce yourself there, policeman. Tell us about yourself, tell us where you're from. Let us see. What do you see the future of?
2022-10-07T19:24:24.571Z Blue2black:  You know.
2022-10-07T19:24:26.295Z Blue2black:  Um.
2022-10-07T19:24:28.345Z pinwheelinghoca:  Hey, hey.
2022-10-07T19:24:33.575Z pinwheelinghoca:  
2022-10-07T19:24:33.09Z Blue2black:  The web three and can we develop arts in the world by by selling Imf's?
2022-10-07T19:24:38.048Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:24:40.296Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:24:43.968Z pinwheelinghoca:  Yes, yes. Can you check my latest work not work post I made something about New World.
2022-10-07T19:24:47.181Z pinwheelinghoca:  Give Me 2 sales today.
2022-10-07T19:24:48.959Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:24:49.898Z pinwheelinghoca:  
2022-10-07T19:24:50.873Z AyatheArtist:  Nice man. Respect.
2022-10-07T19:25:01.248Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:25:21.076Z pinwheelinghoca:  And I donated some of the sailing come today to SM, a patient in Turkey. You can check the hash tag. It has a governor's formal permission. He she urgently needs help. I saw it after I made sale and I helped her. Yeah, if we can, we'll something. And we.
2022-10-07T19:25:51.553Z pinwheelinghoca:  Can help people with these income so the web three can work with something. It can solve some problems with this environment ecosystem. For example, in near future maybe open sea or other platform platforms can have the option that when you sell an NFU, choose the donation.
2022-10-07T19:26:02.486Z pinwheelinghoca:  Percentage, maybe. I also emailed them and they said it's not possible today, but it may be possible in the near future.
2022-10-07T19:26:18.869Z pinwheelinghoca:  When you sell NFD or 10 or 5% of the income directly can go to charities. For example, I donate to Save the Children that RG, but maybe we can be able to donate.
2022-10-07T19:26:21.565Z pinwheelinghoca:  Automatically.
2022-10-07T19:26:26.099Z pinwheelinghoca:  With the platforms, I think over these things.
2022-10-07T19:26:30.392Z pinwheelinghoca:  And so is the Web 3 cancel the minute things.
2022-10-07T19:26:38.182Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:26:40.671Z Blue2black:  Ohh Manuela, you can, you can say.
2022-10-07T19:26:45.422Z AyatheArtist:  Hello there cohost.
2022-10-07T19:26:46.347Z Blue2black:  You can talk to us as well. I don't want you to be quiet at all.
2022-10-07T19:26:48.089Z Blue2black:  So I've been wheels.
2022-10-07T19:26:49.56Z AyatheArtist:  Document.
2022-10-07T19:26:53.195Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:26:58.998Z Blue2black:  You're telling us now that essentially we can now give a part of the NFD as a charity to a percentage of our liking in the near future?
2022-10-07T19:27:10.631Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:27:16.804Z pinwheelinghoca:  Yeah, if the platforms can handle this, they can show the way. It will be easy people for people to donate because they they will only pick which charity and which percentage they can allocate.
2022-10-07T19:27:33.38Z Blue2black:  That's quite good. That's quite good. And if you were to give to a charity, what type of charity do you think you would go for? What type of charity do you think best fits your type of representation?
2022-10-07T19:27:56.368Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:28:04.905Z pinwheelinghoca:  And as you see my collection is about childhood memories and I prefer child charities about childhood education and health services. I donated savethechildren dot ORG and the chart which accepts crypto. It's connected with web three and I will donate more if I can reach 1 interior volume I am on the halfway, I need 4.
2022-10-07T19:28:24.473Z pinwheelinghoca:  0.4 is more than I will donate more and I as I said I donated today spontaneously. I didn't thought but I saw a tweet about urgent need for a child from Turkey and I donated.
2022-10-07T19:28:33.88Z pinwheelinghoca:  Yeah, I I also suggest you to donate to Save the Children that RG it it handles.
2022-10-07T19:28:34.114Z AyatheArtist:  That's really nice.
2022-10-07T19:28:35.898Z pinwheelinghoca:  Yes, thank you.
2022-10-07T19:28:37.047Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:28:38.558Z pinwheelinghoca:  If you want, I can.
2022-10-07T19:28:39.45Z Blue2black:  But what if I were G?
2022-10-07T19:28:40.568Z pinwheelinghoca:  Sorry.
2022-10-07T19:28:42.101Z AyatheArtist:  Enough.
2022-10-07T19:28:44.237Z Blue2black:  What is this I RG?
2022-10-07T19:28:46.471Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:28:47.356Z pinwheelinghoca:  Org.
2022-10-07T19:28:49.635Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:28:50.09Z pinwheelinghoca:  O RG website.
2022-10-07T19:28:52.293Z pinwheelinghoca:  That O RG.
2022-10-07T19:28:51.304Z AyatheArtist:  Tonight.
2022-10-07T19:28:56.217Z Blue2black:  Okay, okay, okay.
2022-10-07T19:29:00.191Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:28:57.091Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah, it means organization.
2022-10-07T19:28:57.588Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:29:00.174Z pinwheelinghoca:  Organization.
2022-10-07T19:29:00.227Z Blue2black:  It's opening OK.
2022-10-07T19:29:04.482Z AyatheArtist:  Wait, should I? Should I introduce myself to the others? I don't know.
2022-10-07T19:29:09.206Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:29:10.188Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:29:10.48Z Blue2black:  Yes, please. I do. So because you we we just have to kind of reset the room there quickly.
2022-10-07T19:29:14.95Z AyatheArtist:  I think you did tell me that earlier, so I was a bit confused.
2022-10-07T19:29:27.406Z AyatheArtist:  Um, so hi everybody. I'm, I am. And I AM 60 years old. 16 years old, going to high school.
2022-10-07T19:29:36.557Z AyatheArtist:  I am mostly a drawing, drawing a digital art, sometimes even paintings when I have time.
2022-10-07T19:29:49.051Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh, mostly I'm practicing drawing difficult characters as the characters from League of Legends and I am for a future I am actually.
2022-10-07T19:29:57.643Z AyatheArtist:  Gotta be dropping on some of my new OC. Yeah, you're gonna see it. Be it, you're gonna.
2022-10-07T19:30:00.873Z AyatheArtist:  I think you're gonna love it. I don't know.
2022-10-07T19:30:08.623Z AyatheArtist:  And my biggest dream is to become a digital graphic designer.
2022-10-07T19:30:14.352Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:30:19.418Z LunulaNFTs:  That's so cool. I was just looking at your profile. You're only 16 and you already making this.
2022-10-07T19:30:20.889Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:30:24.507Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:30:25.984Z LunulaNFTs:  That's amazing. How long have you been, uh, doing digital art?
2022-10-07T19:30:28.715Z LunulaNFTs:  
2022-10-07T19:30:34.224Z AyatheArtist:  Well, since I was actually, I think I when I was 14, I was practicing.
2022-10-07T19:30:37.388Z AyatheArtist:  Think for two.
2022-10-07T19:30:37.888Z LunulaNFTs:  Amazing.
2022-10-07T19:30:41.122Z LunulaNFTs:  
2022-10-07T19:30:42.13Z AyatheArtist:  Things and trying my best.
2022-10-07T19:30:48.074Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:30:48.73Z LunulaNFTs:  Could you imagine what you're going to be making in like 5 or 10 years if you're already making this at 16?
2022-10-07T19:30:54.607Z AyatheArtist:  Well, as I said, in the future I might even drop a new OC.
2022-10-07T19:30:58.316Z AyatheArtist:  Original.
2022-10-07T19:30:58.453Z LunulaNFTs:  What are oc's? Maybe I'm too old to know.
2022-10-07T19:31:02.261Z AyatheArtist:  Original characters, my original characters.
2022-10-07T19:31:04.855Z LunulaNFTs:  Oh, Oh yeah, for sure.
2022-10-07T19:31:07.036Z LunulaNFTs:  I feel like it's only natural, right?
2022-10-07T19:31:09.012Z AyatheArtist:  Uh.
2022-10-07T19:31:09.888Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:31:15.181Z LunulaNFTs:  First, first we kind of copy other stuff we admire, and then we start making up our own right.
2022-10-07T19:31:24.022Z AyatheArtist:  Well, I was mostly admiring the character from the game. I don't know. They're like super cool. They had cool stories.
2022-10-07T19:31:38.242Z AyatheArtist:  Mostly my best friend actually, Amy introduced me to League of Legends. You can also see her too. She has an Instagram profile and she has a Twitter profile here too.
2022-10-07T19:31:42.908Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:31:43.957Z LunulaNFTs:  So are you in um? Are you influenced by anime?
2022-10-07T19:31:46.26Z LunulaNFTs:  Are mostly like.
2022-10-07T19:31:54.418Z AyatheArtist:  You can say that you can. You can see that it's amazing. I'm might having anime art style, I don't know. I'm quite obsessed with it.
2022-10-07T19:31:56.877Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:32:00.263Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:32:01.354Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:31:59.17Z LunulaNFTs:  I got really influenced by Sailor Moon.
2022-10-07T19:32:03.879Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:32:05.83Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:32:04.563Z LunulaNFTs:  And like I it's really influencing my art it it's in there.
2022-10-07T19:32:31.202Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh, that's nice. I mean, I was watching quite a lot of anime that I couldn't even count. So we say I'm a bit obsessed, but I don't care. Mostly I'm watching in the normal like English subbed, more than dubbed like a Japanese like dabbled, but with English text. I don't know. The voices are cool and they're breaking more emotion there.
2022-10-07T19:32:32.997Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:32:41.908Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:32:41.973Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:32:43.618Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah, that's that's how I watch anime too. It has to be with the English like subtitles on the bottom, because yeah, their voices, the original voices are they bring a lot to it.
2022-10-07T19:32:46.816Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:32:47.258Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, and I'm crying on some of the enemies.
2022-10-07T19:32:48.523Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:32:50.501Z LunulaNFTs:  You can't be so deep.
2022-10-07T19:32:53.342Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:32:57.394Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:32:58.829Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:33:00.226Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:33:00.315Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:33:00.626Z 8kromitsu8:  Why is we we I hear a lot of that kind of story like and also many people from the other countries watching anime original with the original.
2022-10-07T19:33:01.991Z 8kromitsu8:  Voice.
2022-10-07T19:33:06.67Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, and I'm, I kind of forgot that I'm from Bosnia too. So many different country.
2022-10-07T19:33:09.467Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:33:09.826Z LunulaNFTs:  What? I thought you were Japanese?
2022-10-07T19:33:11.33Z AyatheArtist:  No, no.
2022-10-07T19:33:14.464Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:33:15.873Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:33:14.784Z LunulaNFTs:  I thought you you.
2022-10-07T19:33:17.786Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:33:25.554Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:33:27.178Z Blue2black:  Yeah. And they go from Poland. I yeah. So you know who would have said what you know and yeah we've got you is Japanese so you feel welcome to to tell us about you know.
2022-10-07T19:33:31.092Z Blue2black:  Do you think the Japanese?
2022-10-07T19:33:31.084Z AyatheArtist:  I kind of want to know about your country.
2022-10-07T19:33:32.668Z Blue2black:  Do the best.
2022-10-07T19:33:34.714Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:33:37.701Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:33:39.42Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:33:39.137Z AyatheArtist:  Nope.
2022-10-07T19:34:02.707Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, I mean I am more likely, yes. I'm from a different country, but I am kinda like interested a bit in the Japanese culture. I don't know, it's really beautiful. I'm watching a lot of anime, some kind of even my bestie was thinking about wanted to cosplay. I'm not a big fan of cosplay, but I do love anime a lot.
2022-10-07T19:34:04.195Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:34:08.943Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:34:13.302Z AyatheArtist:  Yes, they are.
2022-10-07T19:34:24.301Z LunulaNFTs:  I find that so many, um, anime stories are so incredibly deep and complex. Like, sometimes I I think about it for like weeks on end after I finish watching it. Like, whoa, you know, I'm like integrating the story. It could be so, so deep. And a lot of the children's ones.
2022-10-07T19:34:33.608Z LunulaNFTs:  Each soul many complexities about life. Like I would. I would make that a school school curriculum. Like what certain anime?
2022-10-07T19:34:37.46Z LunulaNFTs:  
2022-10-07T19:34:44.858Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:34:47.124Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:34:50.771Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:34:44.266Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, my my mom was thinking was like for little kids, but I was watching anime since I was a little girl. I loved the ARSA. The story behind those like, characters is really deep. It's amazing.
2022-10-07T19:34:52.011Z AyatheArtist:  Like, I mean love.
2022-10-07T19:34:56.219Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:34:59.091Z 8kromitsu8:  And then the Japanese people. So many Japanese people learn a lot of stuff.
2022-10-07T19:35:01.229Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:35:05.425Z 8kromitsu8:  From anime. Oh oh, not only anime or manga. Comic book. Comic book, yes.
2022-10-07T19:35:12.093Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:35:13.05Z AyatheArtist:  Like, it's I was, I was. Sometimes I'm thinking that's based on real life. Like what that the story is like for all the real life.
2022-10-07T19:35:13.24Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:35:19.591Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:35:21.922Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:35:22.003Z 8kromitsu8:  Yeah, so we can learn a lot of things from comic books, from anime. So this is really easy to learn like.
2022-10-07T19:35:25.413Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:35:27.681Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:35:30.859Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:35:32.495Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:35:34.17Z 8kromitsu8:  Yeah, because we can put emotions on the characters and we feel like living in the story, so we can look at.
2022-10-07T19:35:36.457Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:35:36.941Z AyatheArtist:  I I know that.
2022-10-07T19:35:39.747Z 8kromitsu8:  Like kind of demonstration of life or something like that.
2022-10-07T19:35:46.005Z AyatheArtist:  I know, I I'm really like crying on some of the anime so much.
2022-10-07T19:35:47.586Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:35:50.283Z LunulaNFTs:  I've definitely cried a lot too.
2022-10-07T19:35:54.312Z Blue2black:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:35:59.365Z LunulaNFTs:  Does anybody else here, uh, have any questions? Anybody want to say anything?
2022-10-07T19:36:30.303Z Blue2black:  I just wanna say, you know once long ago I read this story was about this woman who who had this parasol and how she used to go for this wonders in in the forest and then well how this this umbrella kind of parasol just kind of protected her on this journey. And then in the end how she realised that there was this protective dragon kind of painted on the outside.
2022-10-07T19:36:35.626Z Blue2black:  The parasol that really protected her along this journey, you know?
2022-10-07T19:36:40.356Z Blue2black:  Are you do you know that story? I might have got it all wrong now.
2022-10-07T19:36:48.22Z 8kromitsu8:  I think I know that kind of story, but it's a little older one I think.
2022-10-07T19:36:52.041Z AyatheArtist:  No.
2022-10-07T19:37:04.643Z Blue2black:  Yeah, it's quite an old story. Um. But yeah, it's just, it's kind of stuck with me. And I would always uh, the parasol. Is that Japanese culture?
2022-10-07T19:37:06.596Z AyatheArtist:  Really.
2022-10-07T19:37:12.63Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh please tell me girl and what's your favorite food?
2022-10-07T19:37:15.114Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:37:16.21Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:37:17.548Z AyatheArtist:  Hello.
2022-10-07T19:37:22.642Z 8kromitsu8:  Yeah, ohh. Favorite food? Favorite food well.
2022-10-07T19:37:24.275Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:37:29.75Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:37:29.101Z 8kromitsu8:  I can't stop eating the raw fish. I mean regularly.
2022-10-07T19:37:31.133Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:37:31.64Z 8kromitsu8:  Really. Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:37:34.55Z 8kromitsu8:  I love Susie.
2022-10-07T19:37:35.679Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah. The only, the only, yeah.
2022-10-07T19:37:36.094Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:37:55.937Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, my dad is actually making sushi and hit in our way. Like, at first I was thinking like, OK, that's weird. Like LG. And then like, yeah, I tried it. It was really damn good. It was always like, make sushi, please, more, more, more.
2022-10-07T19:38:00.354Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:38:03.463Z LunulaNFTs:  I have a.
2022-10-07T19:38:03.542Z 8kromitsu8:  It.
2022-10-07T19:38:04.66Z LunulaNFTs:  Ohh go ahead.
2022-10-07T19:38:05.395Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:38:06.702Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh go something in the.
2022-10-07T19:38:09.283Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:38:09.875Z 8kromitsu8:  Is anybody here that?
2022-10-07T19:38:15.162Z 8kromitsu8:  Have that that you ate sushi before.
2022-10-07T19:38:17.584Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:38:21.152Z LunulaNFTs:  You throw a heart if you've ever eaten sushi.
2022-10-07T19:38:23.072Z 8kromitsu8:  Yes.
2022-10-07T19:38:24.22Z LunulaNFTs:  Alright.
2022-10-07T19:38:25.612Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:38:28.135Z AyatheArtist:  Very interesting.
2022-10-07T19:38:33.118Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:38:31.648Z Blue2black:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:38:32.273Z 8kromitsu8:  Is anybody here? I mean.
2022-10-07T19:38:37.478Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:38:36.158Z 8kromitsu8:  Blue blue. Have you ever had sushi?
2022-10-07T19:38:37.205Z 8kromitsu8:  Before.
2022-10-07T19:38:39.711Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:38:43.126Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:38:44.6Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:38:49.092Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:38:45.55Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:38:49.623Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:38:51.019Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:38:51.052Z Blue2black:  Ohh of course. Yeah. Now I think Juna, Juna, that's quite good. But I'm, I actually caught some tuna ones and, you know, prawns.
2022-10-07T19:38:53.145Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:38:54.997Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:38:57.943Z Blue2black:  I've also been fishing prawns and yeah, no, that was a crazy time. It was actually.
2022-10-07T19:38:59.733Z 8kromitsu8:  Uh, yeah.
2022-10-07T19:39:05.134Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:07.034Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:10.006Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:39:13.284Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:14.878Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:16.572Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:18.362Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:17.452Z Blue2black:  It was actually through being a fisherman that I first had the the money to really invest into the concept of blue to black and it, well, I was a fisherman on the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Ireland and it was quite a wild experience.
2022-10-07T19:39:23.892Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:39:24.795Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:25.15Z Blue2black:  We were catching prawns and I have to tell you that, you know, there was this experience.
2022-10-07T19:39:24.525Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:39:25.73Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:28.047Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:39:31.86Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:35.712Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:38.038Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:40.007Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:43.462Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:45.045Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:39:47.841Z Blue2black:  Like happened to me. And, you know, a lot of people will say, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm afraid of nothing and all that type of things, you know? And yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, everybody wants to be brave. But there was this time in my time doing that where I really became afraid and I literally got to the point where I told myself.
2022-10-07T19:40:18.894Z Blue2black:  But you have to save yourself. You know, you have to save yourself. And what happened was, so we were off the coast about 50 kilometers out out on the sea. And so they called us on the satellite radio and like, yeah, you guys have to go back to land because, you know, there's a storm coming. And so on our way to land, the storm already started hitting. So we knew that if we get any closer to the land, then basically we.
2022-10-07T19:40:28.943Z Blue2black:  We won't survive this ordeal, so we decided to, instead of going back to land, to go deeper into the sea. I Priscilla.
2022-10-07T19:40:44.811Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:40:43.057Z Blue2black:  So yeah, we are kind of going with this um Sparta 100 foot foot trawler, you know, so it's not a small boat, it's quite big, but you know you're on that thing now and you're going, you're going.
2022-10-07T19:40:44.515Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:40:47.73Z Blue2black:  And you have to hit the wife.
2022-10-07T19:40:49.672Z AyatheArtist:  Hi, Priscilla.
2022-10-07T19:40:49.947Z Blue2black:  With the nose of the boat.
2022-10-07T19:40:52.498Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:41:18.234Z Blue2black:  You know, and when you hit it, it actually splashes over the boat without even some of it touching the boat, you know, so you're talking about massive waves there. So now the electric pump doesn't work fast enough. So we have to kind of bump by hand in, in terms of kind of just getting more water out and we get each like 20 minutes of doing this, then somebody else kind of takes over from me.
2022-10-07T19:41:23.621Z AsefiValid:  
2022-10-07T19:41:23.579Z Blue2black:  My 20 minutes, I quickly just went up.
2022-10-07T19:41:25.756Z Blue2black:  And.
2022-10-07T19:41:32.482Z AyatheArtist:  How about how about we talk with um? We have a lot of guests here. Who? How are we gonna gonna get the mall?
2022-10-07T19:41:34.009Z AsefiValid:  Guys please.
2022-10-07T19:41:36.366Z AyatheArtist:  How?
2022-10-07T19:41:37.399Z Blue2black:  Yeah, scary time. That's all I want to know.
2022-10-07T19:41:38.948Z AsefiValid:  Guys, please uh, one minute. Listen me.
2022-10-07T19:41:39.961Z AsefiValid:  
2022-10-07T19:41:47.904Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:41:44.986Z AsefiValid:  
2022-10-07T19:41:46.613Z AyatheArtist:  High Priscilla.
2022-10-07T19:41:46.869Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:41:51.772Z Blue2black:  Hi Priscilla, thank you for coming to visit us. You know, you have such a beautiful voice that I know that this room is missed having a year now.
2022-10-07T19:41:52.071Z AsefiValid:  I apologise for interrupting you because people were difficult.
2022-10-07T19:41:53.979Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh hey hi.
2022-10-07T19:41:55.302Z AsefiValid:  This limited for us.
2022-10-07T19:42:00.319Z AyatheArtist:  Who's that coming from?
2022-10-07T19:42:02.728Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:42:05.018Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:42:04.152Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:42:06.12Z AsefiValid:  Free Internet with difficulty and schedule. I support the Iranian artist and the situation is very difficult. Thank you.
2022-10-07T19:42:09.346Z AsefiValid:  
2022-10-07T19:42:08.296Z Blue2black:  Uh. I?
2022-10-07T19:42:08.78Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:42:15.414Z Blue2black:  Um, it is from valley. This translating with um with the translator.
2022-10-07T19:42:16.598Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh I I yeah I I got it. It's the Google Translate.
2022-10-07T19:42:19.815Z AyatheArtist:  I I get it. I'm sorry.
2022-10-07T19:42:23.912Z Blue2black:  Yeah, so let's try and turn off all the mikes, try, then have all the mic's and let's just see if it helps.
2022-10-07T19:42:37.915Z Blue2black:  Nah, it's definitely rigging is reconnecting. Okay. So Priscilla.
2022-10-07T19:42:38.368Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:42:39.716Z AyatheArtist:  Hello, Priscilla.
2022-10-07T19:42:40.038Z Blue2black:  Thank you for coming here.
2022-10-07T19:42:42.681Z Blue2black:  Tell us about yourself there, please.
2022-10-07T19:42:42.851Z pricilia_maya22:  My pleasure. My.
2022-10-07T19:42:44.233Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:42:48.023Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:42:48.642Z pricilia_maya22:  There's no yeah, I'm just seeing a mom.
2022-10-07T19:42:54.847Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:42:56.901Z pricilia_maya22:  I lost my husband almost three years. I have one son. I'm from Indonesia and I love singing and I love science.
2022-10-07T19:43:03.571Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:43:05.614Z pricilia_maya22:  And I have a lot of discovery in science, but I must be a copyright first. But thank you. I love being here. Thank you so much.
2022-10-07T19:43:06.765Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:43:12.11Z AyatheArtist:  Oh my God ohh.
2022-10-07T19:43:15.212Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:43:15.944Z Blue2black:  Now let me tell you, I.
2022-10-07T19:43:16.927Z pricilia_maya22:  If it's OK, I healing from my.
2022-10-07T19:43:22.232Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:43:24.634Z pricilia_maya22:  Broken heart loss and grief because you know there's one as sick that have no.
2022-10-07T19:43:30.995Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:43:30.113Z pricilia_maya22:  Medicine is broken heart, but I already healing is okay, all is good now. Thank you.
2022-10-07T19:43:31.425Z AyatheArtist:  Good for you.
2022-10-07T19:43:35.983Z Blue2black:  But uh.
2022-10-07T19:43:37.444Z AyatheArtist:  Yes, but you gotta be a strong woman.
2022-10-07T19:43:40.764Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:43:46.776Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:43:49.895Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:43:49.178Z Blue2black:  The first time I met Priscilla was definitely through his song. And you know, I was so captivated by the words of this song and her her performance that Priscilla.
2022-10-07T19:43:52.05Z Blue2black:  Are you feeling in the mood for singing tonight?
2022-10-07T19:43:55.485Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T19:43:57.487Z AyatheArtist:  Please, I want to hear it. I am so in love.
2022-10-07T19:44:02.084Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:44:02.12Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh of course of course. OK OK find the ohh.
2022-10-07T19:44:04.016Z pricilia_maya22:  OK.
2022-10-07T19:44:06.898Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:44:08.788Z pricilia_maya22:  Wait, OK, this one.
2022-10-07T19:44:13.22Z pricilia_maya22:  Thank you so much.
2022-10-07T19:44:16.408Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:44:17.792Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:44:18.953Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:44:21.623Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:44:52.36Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:44:37.758Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:44:43.213Z pricilia_maya22:  It's Sally.
2022-10-07T19:44:47.192Z pricilia_maya22:  I want to be.
2022-10-07T19:44:49.302Z pricilia_maya22:  I'd say it's a key.
2022-10-07T19:44:53.465Z pricilia_maya22:  The best of me.
2022-10-07T19:44:56.244Z pricilia_maya22:  Um, only one?
2022-10-07T19:44:59.263Z pricilia_maya22:  My mother love.
2022-10-07T19:45:06.569Z pricilia_maya22:  My finest day is shit online.
2022-10-07T19:45:10.345Z pricilia_maya22:  I broke my heart.
2022-10-07T19:45:13.026Z pricilia_maya22:  For everything.
2022-10-07T19:45:15.548Z pricilia_maya22:  To taste sweet.
2022-10-07T19:45:19.324Z pricilia_maya22:  I faced the pain.
2022-10-07T19:45:36.562Z pricilia_maya22:  I rise and fall, yet study is all these months remain. I won't one moment in time.
2022-10-07T19:45:40.978Z pricilia_maya22:  When am I?
2022-10-07T19:45:42.681Z pricilia_maya22:  It's clear.
2022-10-07T19:46:09.109Z pricilia_maya22:  When all of the trees are heard beat away and the answer are all up to me, give me one moment each time when I'm crazy with me.
2022-10-07T19:46:12.019Z pricilia_maya22:  Do.
2022-10-07T19:46:17.655Z pricilia_maya22:  One moment of time I will feel.
2022-10-07T19:46:25.586Z pricilia_maya22:  I will see eternity.
2022-10-07T19:46:30.431Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:46:33.341Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:46:33.802Z pricilia_maya22:  I live to be.
2022-10-07T19:46:34.058Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:46:35.944Z pricilia_maya22:  Don't worry.
2022-10-07T19:46:40.462Z pricilia_maya22:  I wanna go.
2022-10-07T19:46:43.598Z pricilia_maya22:  No time for losers.
2022-10-07T19:46:49.946Z pricilia_maya22:  I like the plane. No later chase.
2022-10-07T19:46:55.317Z pricilia_maya22:  He in my friends gave me.
2022-10-07T19:46:58.838Z pricilia_maya22:  Moment.
2022-10-07T19:47:02.731Z pricilia_maya22:  Where are more?
2022-10-07T19:47:07.266Z pricilia_maya22:  Thought I could be.
2022-10-07T19:47:09.075Z pricilia_maya22:  Graham.
2022-10-07T19:47:19.571Z pricilia_maya22:  All of my trees are heartbeat away and the answer are all out to me.
2022-10-07T19:47:25.515Z pricilia_maya22:  One more money.
2022-10-07T19:47:30.637Z pricilia_maya22:  Whether raising with James.
2022-10-07T19:47:37.824Z pricilia_maya22:  Get in there.
2022-10-07T19:47:42.739Z pricilia_maya22:  In time I will see.
2022-10-07T19:47:47.519Z pricilia_maya22:  I will see here.
2022-10-07T19:47:53.595Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:47:53.349Z pricilia_maya22:  Yoda.
2022-10-07T19:47:57.278Z pricilia_maya22:  For the last time.
2022-10-07T19:48:03.396Z pricilia_maya22:  He says that one moment he died.
2022-10-07T19:48:04.398Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:48:07.081Z pricilia_maya22:  Can't you?
2022-10-07T19:48:09.759Z pricilia_maya22:  Give me one.
2022-10-07T19:48:13.753Z pricilia_maya22:  Happy time.
2022-10-07T19:48:20.407Z pricilia_maya22:  When I'm more than I thought I could be.
2022-10-07T19:48:23.57Z pricilia_maya22:  When?
2022-10-07T19:48:27.044Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh is I have.
2022-10-07T19:48:29.303Z pricilia_maya22:  Doing.
2022-10-07T19:48:34.08Z pricilia_maya22:  And the answer are all up to me.
2022-10-07T19:48:36.961Z pricilia_maya22:  Give me one.
2022-10-07T19:48:37.205Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:48:39.738Z pricilia_maya22:  Moment.
2022-10-07T19:48:40.205Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:48:47.888Z pricilia_maya22:  When I'm crazy with Jess to me.
2022-10-07T19:48:50.783Z pricilia_maya22:  Do.
2022-10-07T19:48:55.161Z pricilia_maya22:  Him that one moment.
2022-10-07T19:48:58.369Z pricilia_maya22:  I will do.
2022-10-07T19:49:01.041Z pricilia_maya22:  How you doing?
2022-10-07T19:49:03.923Z pricilia_maya22:  Yeah, I really do.
2022-10-07T19:49:08.048Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T19:49:13.709Z AyatheArtist:  Voice.
2022-10-07T19:49:15.045Z pricilia_maya22:  How are you doing?
2022-10-07T19:49:17.648Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:49:21.053Z pricilia_maya22:  Thank you so much.
2022-10-07T19:49:21.791Z AyatheArtist:  Oh my God.
2022-10-07T19:49:23.138Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh wow.
2022-10-07T19:49:25.395Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:49:26.283Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:49:28.892Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:49:29.275Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:49:31.971Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:49:33.266Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:49:35.307Z LunulaNFTs:  Wow, thank you so much for sharing your voice for so long. I could feel your heart.
2022-10-07T19:49:35.649Z 8kromitsu8:  Yes, this phone.
2022-10-07T19:49:37.667Z AyatheArtist:  It's it's so moderately.
2022-10-07T19:49:41.019Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:49:41.833Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:49:42.154Z AyatheArtist:  With you.
2022-10-07T19:49:45.526Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:49:47.016Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:49:44.497Z AyatheArtist:  Die.
2022-10-07T19:49:50.896Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:49:50.852Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:49:51.453Z LunulaNFTs:  It's really, really beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing that with us. I've got to feel like your heart singing straight to us. It's coming straight from your heart, from your soul. Thank you.
2022-10-07T19:49:54.285Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh my goodness.
2022-10-07T19:49:57.104Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh don't be don't crying, just be happy.
2022-10-07T19:50:01.623Z AyatheArtist:  I was crying through the whole song, how beautiful it was.
2022-10-07T19:50:03.021Z pricilia_maya22:  You deserve to have it done.
2022-10-07T19:50:03.96Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:50:04.125Z pricilia_maya22:  Thank you.
2022-10-07T19:50:07.095Z AyatheArtist:  Oh my God.
2022-10-07T19:50:09.389Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh goodness.
2022-10-07T19:50:14.453Z AyatheArtist:  You know.
2022-10-07T19:50:16.128Z 8kromitsu8:  Wow. And it is making me make me feel like singing too. Well, maybe next time.
2022-10-07T19:50:20.108Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:50:20.263Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh my.
2022-10-07T19:50:21.76Z Blue2black:  No, you please do go sing us a song straight from Japan.
2022-10-07T19:50:23.659Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:50:24.9Z 8kromitsu8:  Okay.
2022-10-07T19:50:27.314Z AyatheArtist:  Oh my God, it's already made me sad.
2022-10-07T19:50:30.432Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:50:31.428Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:50:34.347Z AyatheArtist:  Yes.
2022-10-07T19:50:37.848Z 8kromitsu8:  This is like a ohh yeah you you you are 16 years old, right? And the the song I'm going to sing is.
2022-10-07T19:50:39.013Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:50:40.973Z 8kromitsu8:  Is the song I wrote.
2022-10-07T19:50:44.781Z 8kromitsu8:  When I was 16 or 17.
2022-10-07T19:50:46.134Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:50:46.487Z 8kromitsu8:  There is.
2022-10-07T19:50:51.152Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:50:51.538Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh I got sorry, I was trying to calm myself down.
2022-10-07T19:50:55.444Z AyatheArtist:  Priscilla of.
2022-10-07T19:50:58.202Z 8kromitsu8:  This is Japanese, but so maybe you don't. Yeah?
2022-10-07T19:51:06.508Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:51:10.765Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:51:10.298Z AyatheArtist:  Priscilla, you have such a wonderful motherly voice. I I love it. Please keep doing it. Keep keep the strings of the hearts and check.
2022-10-07T19:51:13.855Z AyatheArtist:  OK.
2022-10-07T19:51:16.889Z AyatheArtist:  All right.
2022-10-07T19:51:23.846Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T19:51:23.837Z 8kromitsu8:  Okay, so this is a Japanese sound. So just feel feel the sound of Japanese. Yes, but the just only one sentence is you can find you can hear English the.
2022-10-07T19:51:27.468Z 8kromitsu8:  The song is title is tomorrow's light.
2022-10-07T19:51:31.8Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:51:32.661Z 8kromitsu8:  Tomorrow's light. Tomorrow's light.
2022-10-07T19:51:33.581Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:51:35.518Z 8kromitsu8:  Light up tomorrow. Yes, tomorrow's light.
2022-10-07T19:51:37.02Z AyatheArtist:  Alright.
2022-10-07T19:51:37.535Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:51:38.582Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:51:44.175Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:51:45.431Z Shekwoloeth:  Hello.
2022-10-07T19:51:51.464Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:51:50.829Z 8kromitsu8:  OK.
2022-10-07T19:51:54.178Z Shekwoloeth:  
2022-10-07T19:51:55.669Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:51:57.393Z AyatheArtist:  Oh my God, you didn't. You did not worry me. It's gonna be a guitar. I am super emotional.
2022-10-07T19:52:01.857Z 8kromitsu8:  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. It has. I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm. I can play guitar.
2022-10-07T19:52:04.197Z 8kromitsu8:  Okay.
2022-10-07T19:52:05.833Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh my goodness. Alright.
2022-10-07T19:52:07.189Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:52:08.433Z 8kromitsu8:  But somebody said hello, hello, but this I I didn't hear.
2022-10-07T19:52:11.02Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:52:11.396Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:52:14.225Z Shekwoloeth:  Won't work.
2022-10-07T19:52:15.939Z AyatheArtist:  Okay, you can oh, oh, it's shequila, right?
2022-10-07T19:52:17.224Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah. How are you doing?
2022-10-07T19:52:18.808Z AyatheArtist:  Hi.
2022-10-07T19:52:21.376Z AyatheArtist:  I do.
2022-10-07T19:52:22.186Z 8kromitsu8:  Hi. Hi. Hi. Is now so emotional?
2022-10-07T19:52:30.506Z AyatheArtist:  Good.
2022-10-07T19:52:30.964Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:52:31.027Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah, I just want to see. She has a pretty voice and I really like this one. Keep doing what you're doing tonight.
2022-10-07T19:52:33.712Z Shekwoloeth:  
2022-10-07T19:52:32.974Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:52:36.895Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:52:38.746Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:52:41.249Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:52:41.533Z Blue2black:  And you're more than welcome to bless us with one of your songs from your from your country as well, if you don't mind.
2022-10-07T19:52:43.342Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:52:44.84Z Shekwoloeth:  Uh, huh.
2022-10-07T19:52:44.555Z AyatheArtist:  Please you you can continue.
2022-10-07T19:52:47.409Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh OK OK.
2022-10-07T19:52:50.555Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:52:49.58Z Shekwoloeth:  Don't message me.
2022-10-07T19:52:50.774Z AyatheArtist:  I can keep myself. I I'm gonna try to keep myself.
2022-10-07T19:52:56.229Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:53:00.293Z 8kromitsu8:  Okay, so thank you for the time. So I am. I'll sing for my heart.
2022-10-07T19:53:06.789Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:53:06.663Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:53:09.781Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:53:14.518Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:53:14.139Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:53:16.727Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:53:23.337Z 8kromitsu8:  So.
2022-10-07T19:53:27.659Z 8kromitsu8:  All girls together.
2022-10-07T19:53:32.033Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:53:34.813Z 8kromitsu8:  He told.
2022-10-07T19:53:36.764Z 8kromitsu8:  Tots.
2022-10-07T19:53:39.872Z 8kromitsu8:  Don't.
2022-10-07T19:53:42.121Z 8kromitsu8:  Another.
2022-10-07T19:53:45.439Z 8kromitsu8:  She said.
2022-10-07T19:53:47.586Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:53:50.176Z 8kromitsu8:  Totally.
2022-10-07T19:53:53.072Z 8kromitsu8:  Title.
2022-10-07T19:53:56.57Z 8kromitsu8:  They got there.
2022-10-07T19:53:58.86Z 8kromitsu8:  You can do no work.
2022-10-07T19:54:00.56Z 8kromitsu8:  Like.
2022-10-07T19:54:03.619Z 8kromitsu8:  China.
2022-10-07T19:54:09.069Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh whoa whoa.
2022-10-07T19:54:10.247Z 8kromitsu8:  Okay.
2022-10-07T19:54:15.307Z 8kromitsu8:  My computer.
2022-10-07T19:54:19.27Z 8kromitsu8:  Tomorrow's light.
2022-10-07T19:54:29.221Z 8kromitsu8:  He thought he thought he had no ohh goody mono.
2022-10-07T19:54:38.68Z 8kromitsu8:  You.
2022-10-07T19:54:47.696Z 8kromitsu8:  And more.
2022-10-07T19:54:50.006Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:54:55.1Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:54:59.509Z 8kromitsu8:  Hate.
2022-10-07T19:55:02.885Z 8kromitsu8:  You.
2022-10-07T19:55:07.151Z 8kromitsu8:  Kid.
2022-10-07T19:55:12.543Z 8kromitsu8:  Not eat.
2022-10-07T19:55:16.617Z 8kromitsu8:  Gonna eat.
2022-10-07T19:55:19.014Z 8kromitsu8:  Nah.
2022-10-07T19:55:20.54Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:55:21.452Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:55:26.458Z 8kromitsu8:  Does she?
2022-10-07T19:55:29.482Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:55:33.628Z 8kromitsu8:  Tomorrow's light.
2022-10-07T19:55:37.455Z 8kromitsu8:  Another.
2022-10-07T19:55:39.745Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:55:42.898Z 8kromitsu8:  Okay in mono.
2022-10-07T19:55:46.503Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:55:49.512Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:55:51.259Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:55:55.525Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:55:59.077Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:56:02.598Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:56:05.636Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:56:13.792Z 8kromitsu8:  I woke up.
2022-10-07T19:56:15.466Z 8kromitsu8:  So close.
2022-10-07T19:56:22.56Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh girl don't get there you.
2022-10-07T19:56:29.991Z 8kromitsu8:  Sorry.
2022-10-07T19:56:32.033Z 8kromitsu8:  What do you say?
2022-10-07T19:56:36.04Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh thank you.
2022-10-07T19:56:40.29Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:56:37.454Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:56:42.423Z 8kromitsu8:  You know.
2022-10-07T19:56:47.945Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:56:49.935Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:57:08.2Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:57:06.548Z AyatheArtist:  You know you know um, you, uh you know what they you know what they're saying in my country when they see something that it's amazing and stunning, they say this. I am taking my head like I'm going to try saying it in English. I am taking my head off and bowing because that was freaking so cute. Oh my God.
2022-10-07T19:57:08.881Z AyatheArtist:  Why didn't some parts?
2022-10-07T19:57:12.288Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:57:13.843Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh thank you well.
2022-10-07T19:57:19.368Z 8kromitsu8:  So this song is about the it's like a the.
2022-10-07T19:57:21.994Z 8kromitsu8:  It's keep telling.
2022-10-07T19:57:23.49Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:57:25.679Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:57:30.237Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:57:29.184Z 8kromitsu8:  You tell me you all like the communication is really important, the words that you choose.
2022-10-07T19:57:31.258Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:57:34.381Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:57:33.981Z 8kromitsu8:  Is, well, important. That's what I saw.
2022-10-07T19:57:36.609Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:57:42.058Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:57:46.842Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:57:47.045Z AyatheArtist:  Oh my God. Again, your voice is so adorable. I absolutely love that, especially your singing. It's over, jelic.
2022-10-07T19:57:47.475Z 8kromitsu8:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:57:49.997Z 8kromitsu8:  Thank you so much.
2022-10-07T19:57:52.242Z LunulaNFTs:  
2022-10-07T19:57:51.955Z AyatheArtist:  Like, I can't. I Can't Sing like that.
2022-10-07T19:57:54.642Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:57:56.03Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:57:58.683Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:58:01.428Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:58:02.674Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:58:04.997Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:58:04.826Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:58:05.299Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:58:04.819Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah, your voice is so good like that. That sounded like you played a song like from the radio or something. It it's so professional where you're also playing the guitar by yourself.
2022-10-07T19:58:06.267Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T19:58:09.107Z 8kromitsu8:  Yes, I yes, I I was playing guitar at the same time.
2022-10-07T19:58:10.208Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:58:11.524Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:58:10.467Z LunulaNFTs:  So.
2022-10-07T19:58:14.055Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:58:12.617Z AyatheArtist:  My goodness, you're making me crazy.
2022-10-07T19:58:14.097Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:58:16.496Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:58:16.689Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:58:19.724Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:58:19.423Z LunulaNFTs:  What? That's amazing. Do you do anything with that? Like, do you ever perform for people?
2022-10-07T19:58:21.106Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:58:29.316Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:58:31.911Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:58:30.636Z 8kromitsu8:  A few times I've because I'm I'm kind of I I'm easy to know, nervous, it's be nervous and.
2022-10-07T19:58:37.069Z 8kromitsu8:  Like, well, if it's only karaoke or.
2022-10-07T19:58:40.402Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, you're you're singing.
2022-10-07T19:58:40.73Z 8kromitsu8:  Like a space. I can sing like that.
2022-10-07T19:58:42.06Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:58:43.671Z AyatheArtist:  Girl, you're singing way better than me.
2022-10-07T19:58:47.357Z 8kromitsu8:  Well, but I really.
2022-10-07T19:58:51.889Z 8kromitsu8:  Impressed the the Priscilla's voice and the.
2022-10-07T19:58:56.285Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:58:58.784Z 8kromitsu8:  So strong and I really love your voice. Please learn. Thank you for.
2022-10-07T19:59:00.347Z AyatheArtist:  Hi.
2022-10-07T19:59:02.035Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh, you're beautiful.
2022-10-07T19:59:03.038Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh you.
2022-10-07T19:59:04.313Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:59:04.522Z pricilia_maya22:  I'm sorry.
2022-10-07T19:59:08.02Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:59:07.079Z AyatheArtist:  I kinda, I kind of makes me wish I can sing too, but I don't know.
2022-10-07T19:59:10.6Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:59:18.875Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:59:20.989Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:59:23.895Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:59:25.385Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:59:26.787Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T19:59:27.948Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:59:29.421Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T19:59:31.395Z Blue2black:  Well, shequila, Dallas, can you, can you sing us a song? It doesn't have to be professional, I promise you. Just give us a little bit of glimpse into your culture and which you, which you would you have a song that you might be like like anybody can sing and that you just got to know you can just sing for us something which you mind doing that? Can you do that?
2022-10-07T19:59:39.111Z Shekwoloeth:  Um, Charlie, I don't know how to sing, does it?
2022-10-07T19:59:48.52Z Shekwoloeth:  
2022-10-07T19:59:50.741Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T19:59:51.371Z Shekwoloeth:  
2022-10-07T19:59:55.72Z AyatheArtist:  It.
2022-10-07T19:59:56.013Z Blue2black:  It doesn't have to be professional just like something song that you grew up with that you know, you can just kind of give us this kind of glimpse into, you know that language, you know, you're kind of own kind of traditional language and how it sounds like, I would love to know.
2022-10-07T19:59:56.542Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:00:04.676Z AyatheArtist:  It kind of makes me want to sing one of my songs, but I am, so I don't know how everyone's gonna react.
2022-10-07T20:00:09.995Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T20:00:17.436Z Blue2black:  Well, let's see if Chiquillo can give us a song, and if it's your sequel, and then why didn't you go ahead? I why didn't you? Then after easing, then just kind of give us your song again?
2022-10-07T20:00:19.906Z Shekwoloeth:  
2022-10-07T20:00:20.366Z AyatheArtist:  Um, I am.
2022-10-07T20:00:22.239Z Blue2black:  Let's try to get him to sing for us.
2022-10-07T20:00:23.102Z AyatheArtist:  Huh.
2022-10-07T20:00:26.676Z Blue2black:  I think he can sing for us. I definitely think he can.
2022-10-07T20:00:35.18Z AyatheArtist:  Um, well, I don't have an instrument, but maybe I can sing without it, I guess.
2022-10-07T20:00:39.894Z AyatheArtist:  Guess I can. Um, OK.
2022-10-07T20:00:45.626Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:00:46.081Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh Jordan.
2022-10-07T20:00:49.77Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:00:55.261Z AyatheArtist:  One man on December 28.
2022-10-07T20:00:58.002Z AyatheArtist:  The.
2022-10-07T20:01:01.998Z AyatheArtist:  Teenager.
2022-10-07T20:01:07.828Z AyatheArtist:  Honeymoon.
2022-10-07T20:01:11.116Z AyatheArtist:  Just say you.
2022-10-07T20:01:17.476Z AyatheArtist:  Ask them, blessing said. The swap.
2022-10-07T20:01:21.006Z AyatheArtist:  Amazon.com.
2022-10-07T20:01:25.328Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, it's 3.
2022-10-07T20:01:26.27Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:01:32.218Z AyatheArtist:  Hey, hey bro.
2022-10-07T20:01:38.186Z AyatheArtist:  Roger, I done. Don't go, son.
2022-10-07T20:01:41.86Z AyatheArtist:  Hey, hey bro.
2022-10-07T20:01:45.802Z AyatheArtist:  Rojo I love.
2022-10-07T20:01:48.065Z AyatheArtist:  Don't go, son.
2022-10-07T20:01:53.532Z AyatheArtist:  Each check come instruktora.
2022-10-07T20:02:02.354Z AyatheArtist:  You're my God aka ohh no.
2022-10-07T20:02:06.481Z AyatheArtist:  Donald.
2022-10-07T20:02:12.67Z AyatheArtist:  I won't annoy true that she.
2022-10-07T20:02:19.45Z AyatheArtist:  Me marry Danny.
2022-10-07T20:02:26.642Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh nice ohh night dog only study.
2022-10-07T20:02:32.679Z AyatheArtist:  Hey, hey, bro. Jonathan.
2022-10-07T20:02:37.765Z AyatheArtist:  But I want you. I don't. Don't go, son.
2022-10-07T20:02:41.35Z AyatheArtist:  Hey, hey bro.
2022-10-07T20:02:42.729Z AyatheArtist:  Good job done.
2022-10-07T20:02:50.543Z AyatheArtist:  Don't go, son. Hey, hey.
2022-10-07T20:02:54.61Z AyatheArtist:  Through June.
2022-10-07T20:03:00.188Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh go sign.
2022-10-07T20:03:04.076Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:03:05.823Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:03:08.575Z Blue2black:  Well done. I am well done. That was awesome. That was awesome.
2022-10-07T20:03:10.755Z AyatheArtist:  What do you guys think?
2022-10-07T20:03:21.121Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:03:20.522Z Blue2black:  No, I think we got down here by Brett as well. And bread, welcome to the space. I just wanna say welcome because it's finally I get you to kind of talk to me.
2022-10-07T20:03:23.178Z Blue2black:  How are you, Brid?
2022-10-07T20:03:32.958Z AyatheArtist:  I what do you guys think about my singing?
2022-10-07T20:03:36.871Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:03:38.798Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:03:43.558Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh use voice like you. I just like hearing someone singing. Yeah, some kind like radio or it's Japanese song.
2022-10-07T20:03:44.268Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:03:47.393Z AyatheArtist:  It's my country song. It's a Bosnia.
2022-10-07T20:03:48.773Z pricilia_maya22:  Well, it wasn't you, okay.
2022-10-07T20:03:50.817Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:03:53.804Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:03:54.679Z pricilia_maya22:  Yes, it's yeah. You have beautiful voice. Thank you.
2022-10-07T20:03:57.598Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:04:01.886Z 8kromitsu8:  Yeah. And then, uh, I I love the the a little crisp in your voice and in that I love that.
2022-10-07T20:04:05.973Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:04:11.49Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:04:11.763Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:04:12.693Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:04:17.694Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:04:17.904Z AyatheArtist:  Things I am, I am sometimes. I love kind of singing alone. I don't know. My dad's the one who plays the guitar, and he and I sing together. It's kind of jammed there.
2022-10-07T20:04:16.858Z 8kromitsu8:  Why?
2022-10-07T20:04:19.853Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:04:21.705Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:04:24.413Z 8kromitsu8:  That's that's beautiful and good, wonderful. Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:04:30.856Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:04:32.421Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:04:36.055Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:04:33.958Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah, I loved your voice when you said you can't do it. Like you are nervous, you couldn't sing, and then you started to sing and then you sounded really good, what I'm talking about.
2022-10-07T20:04:39.203Z AyatheArtist:  I I was kind of unsure, because there were voices sounded like angels.
2022-10-07T20:04:43.027Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:04:45.82Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:04:46.055Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:04:47.492Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:04:47.747Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:04:50.947Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:04:53.927Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:04:54.474Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:04:53.867Z LunulaNFTs:  I feel like if you keep uh, like improving, keep singing, keep toning or whatever that's called, you know, like improving your voice. I feel like you can get to a really amazing place as well, like you have a good voice.
2022-10-07T20:04:55.146Z 8kromitsu8:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:04:57.257Z AyatheArtist:  Thanks so.
2022-10-07T20:04:58.065Z LunulaNFTs:  Thanks for the concert, ladies.
2022-10-07T20:05:01.986Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:05:03.224Z 8kromitsu8:  You can join.
2022-10-07T20:05:08.502Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:05:10.648Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:05:14.258Z AyatheArtist:  Hey, you're welcome ladies. Glad you enjoyed it. Even blue Tin black was kinda commenting I think he said once that my voice sounded sounds so different. When I'm speaking like my language in English, that's totally different.
2022-10-07T20:05:20.295Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:05:20.455Z pricilia_maya22:  I I yeah. May I know your age? Your age?
2022-10-07T20:05:21.718Z AyatheArtist:  16.
2022-10-07T20:05:23.639Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:05:29.655Z pricilia_maya22:  Okay in in up 20 you voice will ohh. I don't know how to spell in English cooking your voice will be.
2022-10-07T20:05:31.105Z pricilia_maya22:  More.
2022-10-07T20:05:32.04Z LunulaNFTs:  Retiring.
2022-10-07T20:05:33.675Z LunulaNFTs:  More mature.
2022-10-07T20:05:33.796Z pricilia_maya22:  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2022-10-07T20:05:37.198Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:05:45.911Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:05:45.868Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:05:48.07Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:05:53.087Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:05:53.318Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:05:52.441Z pricilia_maya22:  Yes, because under 20 sometime before is still, you know, like teenager and obtaining your voice will be more amazing than this. But it's really amazing. I mean I don't know how to spell. They say it's voice more tranny, it's more cook.
2022-10-07T20:05:56.067Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:05:57.243Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:05:55.778Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T20:06:00.065Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:05:58.074Z pricilia_maya22:  Then yeah, just like that. I don't know how to spell in English, I'm sorry.
2022-10-07T20:06:03.543Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:06:03.34Z AyatheArtist:  Thank you so much and I really appreciate it.
2022-10-07T20:06:08.867Z pricilia_maya22:  Thank you for you.
2022-10-07T20:06:09.085Z LunulaNFTs:  Also for breads.
2022-10-07T20:06:10.451Z pricilia_maya22:  Your voice is so cheap.
2022-10-07T20:06:10.82Z LunulaNFTs:  If you're here.
2022-10-07T20:06:13.493Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T20:06:15.522Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah, go ahead and say something, Brett, if you're here.
2022-10-07T20:06:17.774Z BretJolliffe:  Hey, hey, how's it going?
2022-10-07T20:06:18.534Z AyatheArtist:  Hey, Brad.
2022-10-07T20:06:21.273Z 8kromitsu8:  Hello.
2022-10-07T20:06:25.805Z BretJolliffe:  Hello, hello. Nice to see you guys. Thanks for inviting me. How are things going?
2022-10-07T20:06:30.064Z mohammedkachih:  
2022-10-07T20:06:29.802Z AyatheArtist:  Hi, green. Hi Brad. How are you doing?
2022-10-07T20:06:35.475Z mohammedkachih:  
2022-10-07T20:06:35.634Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:06:39.184Z AyatheArtist:  Really.
2022-10-07T20:06:44.999Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:06:46.749Z BretJolliffe:  Ohh, I'm doing super good. I'm sitting here putting the finishing touches on the latest episode of My web series and it's coming together very nicely. Yeah, this one my dog really has a shining like a starring role in, so I'm pretty excited about it.
2022-10-07T20:06:49.055Z AyatheArtist:  Nice.
2022-10-07T20:06:51.716Z BretJolliffe:  Yeah, it's going good.
2022-10-07T20:06:55.518Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, um.
2022-10-07T20:06:56.73Z BretJolliffe:  
2022-10-07T20:06:56.187Z LunulaNFTs:  So tell us about your arts or your process. How do you evolve your dog?
2022-10-07T20:06:58.811Z BretJolliffe:  Absolutely.
2022-10-07T20:07:04.439Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, uh, what is? What was your purpose of actually doing what you like? What was the main goal?
2022-10-07T20:07:07.144Z AyatheArtist:  What is your main goal? That is, I'm sorry?
2022-10-07T20:07:10.208Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:07:34.656Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:07:34.54Z BretJolliffe:  No, absolutely. I I got you. So my main, my, my great. My biggest goal here is to use Web three and DfT technology to get to myself, get myself into a position where I can produce feature films. It's been a dream since I was in high school and I moved to Vancouver 10 years ago to get into the film industry. I've been focused on. I mean, I've been working in the industry now for the last 10 years, but my jobs have always been in locations.
2022-10-07T20:07:37.89Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:07:40.66Z AyatheArtist:  Thanks.
2022-10-07T20:07:44.729Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:07:47.123Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:07:53.47Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:07:51.739Z BretJolliffe:  In like logistical positions, dealing with car parking permits, garbage, all that kind of stuff. Like behind the scenes and in my spare time I've been doing a lot of standup comedy or events or sketch comedy or different things and.
2022-10-07T20:08:02.93Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:08:09.119Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:08:10.49Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:08:14.052Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:08:13.434Z BretJolliffe:  You know, I've tried YouTube, I've tried a few different things, but this is kind of this like whole web three opportunity feels like a breakaway opportunity to like establish a production house and eventually, you know, get myself into a point where producing films and so on. My way to get there is that right now I'm producing a web series for the NFT community.
2022-10-07T20:08:14.924Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:08:17.694Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:08:19.993Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:08:20.782Z BretJolliffe:  About the NFT community basically. So every episode of the web series is me trying to turn somebody into an NFT and.
2022-10-07T20:08:40.339Z AyatheArtist:  Interesting. Do you things are gonna say one I love. I love ambition. It's really I love your ambition towards your biggest goal and I am really hoping to see that. And 2nd, I know it's ridiculous, but I like the only one who's the youngest of them all.
2022-10-07T20:08:43.545Z BretJolliffe:  Who's this?
2022-10-07T20:08:44.671Z Blue2black:  Of course you are. Of course you are.
2022-10-07T20:08:45.812Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T20:08:49.951Z BretJolliffe:  I might be. I don't think I'm the youngest. I'm 32.
2022-10-07T20:08:53.034Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, I am the youngest actually here.
2022-10-07T20:08:57.267Z Blue2black:  But the.
2022-10-07T20:08:57.453Z BretJolliffe:  Right.
2022-10-07T20:08:57.38Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah, it's nice because.
2022-10-07T20:08:59.248Z Blue2black:  But then.
2022-10-07T20:08:58.965Z BretJolliffe:  You'll.
2022-10-07T20:09:01.1Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:09:05.99Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:09:08.136Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:09:12.342Z LunulaNFTs:  Because I you have like, you know, you got here so early, you got to be like a professional by the time you're like our age, like I'm 33, so you know, you you can do a lot so.
2022-10-07T20:09:20.545Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, I can, yeah. What were you thinking? What was my age before you asked me how old I am? A lunula?
2022-10-07T20:09:25.303Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:09:30.488Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:09:33.872Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:09:38.988Z LunulaNFTs:  Well, your voice does sound a little younger, I must say. But I mean, it could be just your voice. I would, I probably would have thought you're like you're in your early 20s or something because I don't expect like teenagers being in the space and you don't really see them that often.
2022-10-07T20:09:42.815Z LunulaNFTs:  So good for you for being here. You're early.
2022-10-07T20:09:52.159Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:09:45.052Z LunulaNFTs:  
2022-10-07T20:09:46.244Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:09:49.883Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:09:56.572Z Blue2black:  Early. Yeah, that's what am I putting it now? I actually do think that, you know, it also shows that you have to be careful with the spaces and that you have to consider what they can't.
2022-10-07T20:09:58.488Z AyatheArtist:  And then I had to consider my parents.
2022-10-07T20:10:05.635Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:10:10.795Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:10:11.959Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:10:19.564Z AyatheArtist:  No worries. I'm. I'm on my yeah, I don't need to worry.
2022-10-07T20:10:20.402Z Blue2black:  Yeah, but. But besides that, yeah, she had to tell her parents. Yeah. But the main thing is, is that you have to know that people are listening. Besides me, besides her, her brother is also listening. And your kids might be listening and, you know, your wife, your husband's listening. And so you really have to consider.
2022-10-07T20:10:23.718Z AyatheArtist:  I'm always on my headphones so he can't hear us.
2022-10-07T20:10:32.109Z Blue2black:  No, but it's not about that. It's really that when you are holding spaces, you have to consider that it is actually.
2022-10-07T20:10:34.396Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:10:44.985Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:10:52.436Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:10:55.048Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh um.
2022-10-07T20:10:57.249Z Blue2black:  For the whole family, it cannot be secluded. You cannot say that your kids aren't listening or somebody else can't overhear you speaking. You cannot say that. So you have to kind of consider the fact that you're talking to a more more mature audience, obviously. But why not involve the youth, you know? What is so mature about art, you know?
2022-10-07T20:10:58.089Z AyatheArtist:  Bella, you want to say something?
2022-10-07T20:11:01.187Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:11:06.439Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh not yet. Island is already 3:00 o'clock in here. If you don't mind I will see you. One more song and I must take a rest.
2022-10-07T20:11:13.766Z AyatheArtist:  Um, yeah, you raised your hand, so it's taking you want to add something or say something.
2022-10-07T20:11:20.831Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:11:20.352Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:11:20.644Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:11:20.826Z pricilia_maya22:  Yes.
2022-10-07T20:11:21.135Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:11:23.355Z Blue2black:  Now, Priscilla, you should definitely sing us another song before I just go on on Atlantean. So, Brett, I do hope that you know that you're afterward.
2022-10-07T20:11:23.761Z AyatheArtist:  OK, I better prepare tissues.
2022-10-07T20:11:29.858Z pricilia_maya22:  Okay.
2022-10-07T20:11:30.917Z pricilia_maya22:  Okay.
2022-10-07T20:11:31.715Z Blue2black:  Sorry, Priscilla, why don't you sing us another beautiful song? And then, Brett, I definitely want to hear one from you.
2022-10-07T20:11:33.669Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:11:33.902Z AyatheArtist:  Let me prepare the tissues first.
2022-10-07T20:11:37.765Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:11:37.812Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh no it's it's not said so no, what is that?
2022-10-07T20:11:41.929Z pricilia_maya22:  It's good.
2022-10-07T20:11:42.888Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh really? Should they not be worried? You caught me off my guard.
2022-10-07T20:11:45.678Z pricilia_maya22:  And no.
2022-10-07T20:11:48.712Z pricilia_maya22:  The show.
2022-10-07T20:11:55.935Z pricilia_maya22:  Walking toward the airport? Leave.
2022-10-07T20:11:58.725Z pricilia_maya22:  In your face.
2022-10-07T20:12:05.048Z pricilia_maya22:  Travel 1500 miles.
2022-10-07T20:12:07.15Z pricilia_maya22:  You.
2022-10-07T20:12:17.848Z pricilia_maya22:  Big it you want me, but you didn't want to.
2022-10-07T20:12:23.589Z pricilia_maya22:  But piece by piece he collects.
2022-10-07T20:12:24.893Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:12:29.941Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh, don't tease.
2022-10-07T20:12:31.99Z pricilia_maya22:  Babies.
2022-10-07T20:12:57.95Z pricilia_maya22:  It's my fate. The men can be kind and the father could stay.
2022-10-07T20:12:59.24Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:13:05.518Z pricilia_maya22:  And all of your world.
2022-10-07T20:13:07.795Z pricilia_maya22:  Head.
2022-10-07T20:13:13.736Z pricilia_maya22:  Something of myself.
2022-10-07T20:13:20.111Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:13:21.116Z pricilia_maya22:  Love it.
2022-10-07T20:13:24.113Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:13:35.147Z pricilia_maya22:  I didn't have anything you needed, so I was worthless.
2022-10-07T20:13:40.677Z pricilia_maya22:  But please, baby.
2022-10-07T20:13:42.951Z pricilia_maya22:  Me.
2022-10-07T20:13:55.007Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:14:16.558Z pricilia_maya22:  Hey.
2022-10-07T20:14:28.594Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:14:40.221Z pricilia_maya22:  Piece by piece of you from the tree. I will never leave her like you left me. She will never have to wonder her world, cause I'm like.
2022-10-07T20:14:42.777Z pricilia_maya22:  I'm gonna put.
2022-10-07T20:14:44.524Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:14:54.883Z pricilia_maya22:  Please.
2022-10-07T20:14:56.775Z pricilia_maya22:  Don't mind.
2022-10-07T20:15:02.666Z pricilia_maya22:  And the father should be great.
2022-10-07T20:15:06.469Z pricilia_maya22:  Thank you.
2022-10-07T20:15:15.874Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:15:18.619Z AyatheArtist:  Oh my God, I'm clapping.
2022-10-07T20:15:18.854Z 8kromitsu8:  Wow, so I I'm so happy to be here.
2022-10-07T20:15:22.93Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:15:22.047Z AyatheArtist:  Bangle that was prepared for it.
2022-10-07T20:15:24.613Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:15:24.953Z AyatheArtist:  You're.
2022-10-07T20:15:30.018Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:15:32.808Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:15:34.56Z LunulaNFTs:  So beautiful. And also the the birds singing at the very end. That was so cool. Beautifully timed, right? Magical.
2022-10-07T20:15:35.208Z 8kromitsu8:  Yes, it is. Yes, that's what I'm talking.
2022-10-07T20:15:40.059Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:15:42.775Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:15:44.707Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:15:44.001Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, I I just. I just love your, um, sweet mother voice. It kind of reminds me of my days when my mom was also singing lullabies.
2022-10-07T20:15:47.48Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh thank you. Yes I.
2022-10-07T20:15:51.306Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:15:50.376Z AyatheArtist:  Makes me makes me wish I'm I'm a little girl anymore again.
2022-10-07T20:15:53.595Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:15:57.032Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:16:02.072Z AyatheArtist:  Hello.
2022-10-07T20:16:05.496Z pricilia_maya22:  Thank you so much. Ohh. I love staying here with you lovely people. But the mistake is tomorrow I'm gonna sing in space. But invite me. Thank you so much blue. I love and you.
2022-10-07T20:16:07.657Z pricilia_maya22:  Thank you so much for all of you.
2022-10-07T20:16:10.78Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:16:13.491Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:16:11.749Z AyatheArtist:  Thank you for being here Priscilla. I hope we get to see more of you.
2022-10-07T20:16:13.51Z 8kromitsu8:  Thank you.
2022-10-07T20:16:14.219Z AyatheArtist:  You and your beauty voice.
2022-10-07T20:16:16.075Z pricilia_maya22:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:16:17.438Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:16:21.309Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:16:21.095Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:16:21.799Z Blue2black:  Yeah. Thank you, Priscilla. That was it was nice having you. I kind of like introduce yourself date to us.
2022-10-07T20:16:25.383Z pricilia_maya22:  
2022-10-07T20:16:31.622Z Blue2black:  You know, I'm always always a fan. So yeah, you're always welcome to come and you know, and enlighten us with your beautiful voice. I always like that.
2022-10-07T20:16:34.544Z Blue2black:  So, yeah, have a good evening. Have a good rest.
2022-10-07T20:16:35.796Z pricilia_maya22:  Yeah, it's.
2022-10-07T20:16:37.246Z AyatheArtist:  Have a good evening, Priscilla.
2022-10-07T20:16:40.629Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:16:46.105Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:16:46.036Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:16:44.947Z pricilia_maya22:  Just started it. Ohh morning at 3:00. O'clock and yeah. Thank you so much. See you around. I love you. Yes, it's very late.
2022-10-07T20:16:47.041Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:16:48.049Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:16:47.517Z pricilia_maya22:  Thank you so much. I love you all. Thank you.
2022-10-07T20:16:49.467Z AyatheArtist:  Bye.
2022-10-07T20:16:49.353Z Blue2black:  Thank you.
2022-10-07T20:16:50.491Z 8kromitsu8:  You.
2022-10-07T20:16:50.927Z LunulaNFTs:  Goodbye, goodnight.
2022-10-07T20:16:52.203Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:16:52.195Z 8kromitsu8:  See you.
2022-10-07T20:16:55.755Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:17:02.775Z 8kromitsu8:  
2022-10-07T20:17:01.893Z AyatheArtist:  It.
2022-10-07T20:17:04.136Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:17:07.448Z 8kromitsu8:  Ohh would love to hear.
2022-10-07T20:17:07.25Z AyatheArtist:  Please wait, I kinda need an energy.
2022-10-07T20:17:16.198Z Blue2black:  Yeah, so I have bread. That means that you can do us your little bit of a performance day. Would you mind doing us a little performance day place, man, one of your skate, one of your performances. You know, I've been listening to you in spaces here and there, but never do I actually get the opportunity to get anything like this out of you. So please, man.
2022-10-07T20:17:24.228Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, Brad, hello.
2022-10-07T20:17:26.388Z BretJolliffe:  Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, sorry. How's it going?
2022-10-07T20:17:29.214Z Blue2black:  I.
2022-10-07T20:17:29.417Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, we are here.
2022-10-07T20:17:29.321Z BretJolliffe:  I'm here.
2022-10-07T20:17:31.978Z BretJolliffe:  In fact.
2022-10-07T20:17:33.807Z Blue2black:  Like, really? Something you I'm gonna get you right off the bridge.
2022-10-07T20:17:50.352Z BretJolliffe:  Grealish. I mean let's go to we can go. Ohh, he's out of here. OK, well it's funny cause I was gonna spend the next 3 minutes talking about Grealish's project, but I guess we can talk about something else. What can I do? What can I do for you? Blue to black? What are you thinking?
2022-10-07T20:18:00.528Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:18:02.776Z Blue2black:  You're a stand up comedian. You can just, you can lighten the mood for us here before I start crying again. And we don't want that, you know. So why don't you feel about.
2022-10-07T20:18:03.279Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:18:03.472Z AyatheArtist:  I I do need a laugh. I seriously do.
2022-10-07T20:18:09.757Z AyatheArtist:  No need to be nervous.
2022-10-07T20:18:13.923Z BretJolliffe:  Ohh okay that's a lot of pressure here. Let me see what I can pick up. It's gone to my to my joke files here. Let's see what I got.
2022-10-07T20:18:17.073Z BretJolliffe:  These ones.
2022-10-07T20:18:19.128Z BretJolliffe:  OK, I got a joke here.
2022-10-07T20:18:21.215Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:18:24.65Z BretJolliffe:  What do you call a bear with no teeth?
2022-10-07T20:18:28.433Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm, I don't know what they're called.
2022-10-07T20:18:30.202Z BretJolliffe:  A gummy bear.
2022-10-07T20:18:33.345Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:18:37.222Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:18:36.094Z Blue2black:  I thought that was coming.
2022-10-07T20:18:39.004Z Blue2black:  Yeah, no bread.
2022-10-07T20:18:40.912Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:18:41.961Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:18:49.597Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:18:54.103Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:18:56.328Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:19:00.037Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:18:57.474Z Blue2black:  So tell us about your stand up comedy acts. Tell us about how that's how that's kind of changed you and how this impacted you, you know, in in general life. And you know, I was the journey been, you know, and tell us about that whole experience. Tell us about what you're doing, how you're doing it. Love to get to know all of that.
2022-10-07T20:19:01.85Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:19:02.043Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:19:03.597Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:19:05.527Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:19:06.888Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:19:16.829Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:19:22.413Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:19:29.939Z BretJolliffe:  Absolutely. So I stand up. Comedy career started many years ago and I'm being totally honest. I wasn't a huge fan of it. I I mean, it's it actually. The open mic stand up reminds me a lot of these Twitter spaces where you sort of you go, you have something you're going to say for your period of time, you wait for an hour, you talk for three minutes and then you're done. And I don't know, it's really.
2022-10-07T20:19:49.03Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:19:54.538Z BretJolliffe:  You get a lot of instant feedback with comedy. That's the problem with comedy is you end up with a lot of insecure people that get into comedy because unlike so music, people can listen and you can't really tell if they're enjoying it or not. Stories, the same thing. But with comedy it's like very obvious if someone laughs or if they don't see you, like right away mid, like the second use trying to make someone laugh, you know whether or not you succeeded and it could be like really like.
2022-10-07T20:19:59.227Z BretJolliffe:  Yeah, I think you just get really in your own head about it, trying to be funny all the time.
2022-10-07T20:20:03.276Z Blue2black:  What?
2022-10-07T20:20:14.266Z AyatheArtist:  Cheerfully, truthfully, I'm not a stand up comedian, but you know, elementary school I used to tell jokes for my classmates when they were feel down and some may like it, some may not, but I was still trying to make them laugh.
2022-10-07T20:20:16.406Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:20:20.85Z BretJolliffe:  Nice. That's a nice work. The class clown is the unsung hero of the high school.
2022-10-07T20:20:21.81Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:20:23.838Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:20:27.335Z AyatheArtist:  Classical. Ohh, come on now, now you're offending me.
2022-10-07T20:20:27.44Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:20:32.263Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:20:34.92Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:20:36.006Z BretJolliffe:  Wow. Well then now you're offending me because I as I said, I'm a big fan of comedy and I would have been proud to be the class clown.
2022-10-07T20:20:37.153Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh oops.
2022-10-07T20:20:41.869Z BretJolliffe:  What you got to say about comedy A? Are you not a fan of being the class clown?
2022-10-07T20:20:53.174Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm. I am actually a big fan of comedy. I'm not saying it's bad. I was just joking. Honestly. Honestly, I have nothing against the comedy comedies.
2022-10-07T20:21:01.527Z AyatheArtist:  Every, every move for for the person to have a big smile on upon their faces. That's what I really love about.
2022-10-07T20:21:05.708Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:21:09.104Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:21:09.401Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:21:09.874Z Blue2black:  Yeah. And the ancient Greeks divided between drama and comedy, and that was kind of it, you know, that was their division.
2022-10-07T20:21:11.844Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, trying to be a drama.
2022-10-07T20:21:13.143Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:21:15.604Z Blue2black:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:21:22.565Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:21:26.468Z AyatheArtist:  Really people?
2022-10-07T20:21:27.612Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:21:28.284Z BretJolliffe:  I I've tried the drama before. It's it's funny. It seems like sometimes if I try to do drama, people laugh at me. And if I try to do comedy, people get very serious and don't laugh. So maybe the maybe the catches do the opposite of what you want.
2022-10-07T20:21:43.199Z AyatheArtist:  Sometimes people think when I'm trying to act they're like, Oh my God girl, what are you trying to be? Are you trying to be like a professionalised or you're just trying to be a drama queen here? Like what's the point then?
2022-10-07T20:21:43.494Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:21:46.573Z AyatheArtist:  Now.
2022-10-07T20:21:51.736Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:22:08.721Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, if.
2022-10-07T20:22:13.988Z BretJolliffe:  One thing I've noticed is that there's a lot of people who are scared to try to be funny or dramatic, and they spend a lot of their time just criticising other people about it. And you know, you got, you got a world full of, you know, what's that saying? Like if you can't do teach, and I think if you can't teach, you become a critic and you just sort of sit there and think that your opinion of everybody else's attempts are more valuable to their attempts. And it's like complete nonsense. That's 
2022-10-07T20:22:15.532Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:22:16.128Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:22:25.111Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:22:23.974Z BretJolliffe:  And in web tour and and current pop culture there's so many critics, you know, movie critics, music critics, all these different whatever. And we just haven't got that yet in web three. We don't have someone sitting. I mean we got people that are.
2022-10-07T20:22:26.719Z AyatheArtist:  I mean when.
2022-10-07T20:22:29.03Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:22:31.883Z AyatheArtist:  I.
2022-10-07T20:22:32.179Z BretJolliffe:  Trying to scope out principles and stuff, but we don't have people that are just like this. Art sucks. This is this. This isn't any good or whatever cause it's so much more about.
2022-10-07T20:22:34.523Z BretJolliffe:  Developing in the.
2022-10-07T20:22:44.257Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, like when people were like telling me like stop doing that, I would just tell them OK, I will stop, but I want to see you try it. Like it's not easy though.
2022-10-07T20:22:46.853Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:22:47.238Z Blue2black:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:22:47.278Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:22:49.754Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:23:05.437Z BretJolliffe:  Ohh absolutely no. I think that, you know, there's so much and you're not going to get better by thinking about it. You're only gonna get better by doing it right. So you have to go out there as a any kind of artist and put out some bad work or do some bad performances or get a few like bad experiences under your belt just to learn and develop and get better.
2022-10-07T20:23:10.034Z Blue2black:  And the other thing is, you know you get, you do get people that can give.
2022-10-07T20:23:28.593Z Blue2black:  Like good criticism that you can actually learn from and develop from. But then you get like you say, those critics who try and kind of criticise people and, you know, like damage, damage their reputation through degree, you know, and I think that's actually just bad.
2022-10-07T20:23:33.613Z Blue2black:  Both. Sportsmanship arena, artmann ship, you know.
2022-10-07T20:23:50.355Z Blue2black:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T20:23:50.563Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:23:51.017Z BretJolliffe:  Yeah, criticism if it's like they're directly to the artist and constructive is amazing because it's someone that's trying to help. But criticism where it's just like, not to the artist, it's like to an audience, like you're not criticising the person, you're telling other people your criticisms of the person. That's not helping anybody, I think.
2022-10-07T20:23:54.533Z Blue2black:  No, that can destroy a person honestly.
2022-10-07T20:23:55.043Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:24:23.597Z Blue2black:  Um, you know, so. But, you know, that's why the journey of the person is so important. You know the things because we all have different motivations for doing what we're doing. And it can also be an interesting journey to kind of find out like why you, why you like, have comedy as an aspect of your life, you know, like bringing that laughter to people. You know, that's quite, quite a mood changer, you know? And and it's, it's a lasting impact.
2022-10-07T20:24:27.703Z Blue2black:  And it, you know, it really can can come in.
2022-10-07T20:24:35.79Z AyatheArtist:  Like.
2022-10-07T20:24:37.627Z Blue2black:  Useful in society, we we need to kind of need that. We need that social integration. And laughter really comes from social.
2022-10-07T20:24:39.286Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:24:45.846Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, how are you gonna make a person laugh or have a big smile if you don't have social contact? Like that? Does not make any sense.
2022-10-07T20:24:46.105Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:24:54.642Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:24:58.056Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:25:00.413Z BretJolliffe:  I've argued it 100 times, and I think that people don't realise comedy is an important part of solving problems like everyone thinks I've I don't really have people I've heard like oh oh jeez, my dog, just through my laptop on the ground.
2022-10-07T20:25:01.837Z AyatheArtist:  Oh my God.
2022-10-07T20:25:02.023Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:25:09.314Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:25:31.894Z BretJolliffe:  What are you doing? So anyway, I've heard so many people say, like, you take this seriously, you're not taking this seriously enough. But comedy is like a way to see a different perspective. Because you're only looking at things one way. You're only going to see one track. But if you learn the difference between comedy and drama, you learn the difference in like two sides of the story, perspective, and how things can be both right, funny, and serious. And that's like the first step to figuring o
2022-10-07T20:25:57.965Z BretJolliffe:  To do with it, right? So I think that a lot of people think that you need to be serious to solve stuff, but really the first thing you should do is try to make fun of something and make it silly and goofy. If you're trying to solve a problem because you're going to start looking at it and all these different ways that you originally would have been looking at it and that's we're going to start finding answers. And then when you start to get practical about things, then you start taking it seriou
2022-10-07T20:26:04.942Z BretJolliffe:  Being a negative emotional response to something comedy is like, I would say like the most important thing to.
2022-10-07T20:26:07.55Z BretJolliffe:  Get in there first with, you know, it's that medicine.
2022-10-07T20:26:27.471Z LunulaNFTs:  That's so true. Thanks for sharing that. I feel like in these times we live in, especially the last few years, like the memes have really brought out the OR brought up the vibration and humanity because things have been just so wild.
2022-10-07T20:26:29.722Z LunulaNFTs:  And.
2022-10-07T20:26:36.813Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:26:39.461Z AyatheArtist:  Agreed.
2022-10-07T20:26:39.509Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah, we need comedy, right? And it really helps us to kind of elevate from, like, anger and, you know, all these feelings.
2022-10-07T20:26:47.201Z AyatheArtist:  Agreed. Actually, I agree a lot with you brat. And also would you lunula?
2022-10-07T20:27:05.373Z LunulaNFTs:  I also wanted to hear from the other people on the stage, for example, AJ, if you wouldn't mind introducing yourself, telling us what you do and how do you create your art if you do so.
2022-10-07T20:27:07.229Z Ajadudraws:  How do you?
2022-10-07T20:27:07.02Z AyatheArtist:  Hi, AJ.
2022-10-07T20:27:14.582Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:27:12.257Z Ajadudraws:  Oh my God, what voice is that? Who's who said that?
2022-10-07T20:27:15.827Z AyatheArtist:  No, it's me. I'm sorry. Am I too annoying?
2022-10-07T20:27:19.792Z Ajadudraws:  Okay, I am right.
2022-10-07T20:27:20.204Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:27:29.224Z Blue2black:  You know what, bread? You just have to listen to Aya. You got everything there. Comedy and drama. I say, how you doing today? Tell us about yourself there, please, man.
2022-10-07T20:27:40.673Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:27:41.233Z Ajadudraws:  Oh my God, sorry. It was Lula talk to talk to me the first time then IRNA said Hi Jay and then.
2022-10-07T20:27:44.315Z AyatheArtist:  I'm sorry if I'm too loud or annoying, I'm sorry.
2022-10-07T20:27:53.265Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:28:13.374Z Ajadudraws:  No, no that's OK. Ohh no. Cutie Cutie, cutie cutie. That's okay. Anyway I want to say big love to everybody. Bluetooth black. Thank you for sending the link man. Amazing brother. Amazing. Everything is just amazing. Shout out to breath and the building shell photo. Ohh. God. You what? I don't know the name now but I can't see Queen. I can see everybody listening session. Big love to you.
2022-10-07T20:28:19.361Z Ajadudraws:  I'm an artist. I'm a Chico Pencil drawing artist.
2022-10-07T20:28:22.195Z Ajadudraws:  I just love join.
2022-10-07T20:28:24.716Z Ajadudraws:  I just love creating.
2022-10-07T20:28:37.728Z Ajadudraws:  Into create, I'm meant to talk stories. I'm meant to talk about issues. I'm meant to talk about things around me and meant to fight for people. And men are meant to, you know.
2022-10-07T20:28:52.277Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:28:52.134Z Ajadudraws:  You know, uh, documents issues around me. Man. I just share the video of Oh my God, my recent work.
2022-10-07T20:28:55.175Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:29:02.315Z Ajadudraws:  Then I finished checkout guys, that's what I do. I wanna throw on blockchain and that's how I created the process there already.
2022-10-07T20:29:05.113Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:29:05.422Z Ajadudraws:  Thank you, blue to black.
2022-10-07T20:29:08.932Z Ajadudraws:  
2022-10-07T20:29:10.694Z AyatheArtist:  Oh my God I love your style of the drama.
2022-10-07T20:29:16.464Z Ajadudraws:  Oh my God, she says. She loves the sound of my drama.
2022-10-07T20:29:25.5Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:29:24.377Z Ajadudraws:  
2022-10-07T20:29:26.619Z Ajadudraws:  
2022-10-07T20:29:31.449Z Blue2black:  But there's so much depth to this that you're not even getting to your, you know. And please tell us about the motivation behind this, because there's so much kind of being said here. Tell us about the dollar.
2022-10-07T20:29:33.765Z Ajadudraws:  About what?
2022-10-07T20:29:37.81Z Ajadudraws:  
2022-10-07T20:29:38.806Z Ajadudraws:  About dollar.
2022-10-07T20:29:40.706Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:29:42.612Z Ajadudraws:  
2022-10-07T20:29:50.683Z Blue2black:  Yes, tell us about the significance, you know, because obviously that just really shows the international community kind of just printed on it.
2022-10-07T20:29:53.819Z Ajadudraws:  OK, you know.
2022-10-07T20:30:00.256Z Ajadudraws:  I was just saying money is good at the same time.
2022-10-07T20:30:01.018Z Ajadudraws:  
2022-10-07T20:30:06.312Z Ajadudraws:  The grade of money can make you do things that are bad.
2022-10-07T20:30:16.343Z Ajadudraws:  You know, some people go as far as, you know, duping people you know, some people go as far as you know.
2022-10-07T20:30:19.254Z Ajadudraws:  Stealing from people.
2022-10-07T20:30:25.398Z Ajadudraws:  And they don't understand what the money is doing to them.
2022-10-07T20:30:27.824Z Ajadudraws:  Like last week.
2022-10-07T20:30:37.814Z Ajadudraws:  You know, high level of greed is not good. So that's what I'm trying to talk about. If you look at my PSP, my PFP, the part one, the eyes are blinded by money.
2022-10-07T20:30:41.189Z AyatheArtist:  Interesting.
2022-10-07T20:30:47.179Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:30:56.576Z Ajadudraws:  They if you look at my yeah. If you look up my part so that I just shared on the Jumbotron right now. The mouths with money. He's overwhelmed all around him. All covered, right. Only the eyes are seen now. I can't see.
2022-10-07T20:30:59.865Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, I'm. I'm seeing it. It's.
2022-10-07T20:31:03.336Z Ajadudraws:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:31:06.442Z Ajadudraws:  
2022-10-07T20:31:07.969Z AyatheArtist:  It's interesting and kind of my vision. I don't know. I think I'm not supposed to say it.
2022-10-07T20:31:10.519Z Ajadudraws:  You think what?
2022-10-07T20:31:11.904Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T20:31:13.729Z Ajadudraws:  What do you say?
2022-10-07T20:31:26.103Z Ajadudraws:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:31:29.125Z AyatheArtist:  It's really interesting here, here, like I as you said it, the person's covered in money but only eyes are are seeing, but the eyes are speaking full of emotion like.
2022-10-07T20:31:37.869Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:31:35.558Z Ajadudraws:  It's not me he's feeling like OK of um, other must well.
2022-10-07T20:31:37.17Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:31:40.455Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:31:40.356Z Ajadudraws:  So just greed is just showing greed?
2022-10-07T20:31:42.307Z AyatheArtist:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T20:31:42.624Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:31:45.487Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:31:57.334Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:31:52.696Z Ajadudraws:  Amazing series that keeps talking. It never stops talking, you know? It's an amazing piece, you know? And my words are very good. So that's basically the idea.
2022-10-07T20:31:59.336Z Ajadudraws:  But everybody has a meaning, any of my arts, and is okay by that.
2022-10-07T20:32:04.852Z Blue2black:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:32:06.13Z AyatheArtist:  Again, I found it really interesting.
2022-10-07T20:32:09.922Z Blue2black:  Now, shequila, are you are you from Nigeria as well?
2022-10-07T20:32:13.494Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:32:17.582Z AyatheArtist:  Uh, he's asking you a J.
2022-10-07T20:32:20.597Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:32:22.586Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:32:25.679Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh oops.
2022-10-07T20:32:33.597Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:32:37.401Z Blue2black:  I was, I was actually talking to chicola because I actually wanted to talk to both of them at the same time they but Ajay, so tell me about do you think that any of these are also developing the arts in Nigeria?
2022-10-07T20:32:40.499Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:32:41.784Z Ajadudraws:  What do you say?
2022-10-07T20:32:45.33Z Blue2black:  Do you think that any of these?
2022-10-07T20:32:54.381Z Blue2black:  Your ability to sell these NFT, do you think that can also develop the arts, the general the arts of the entire country in Nigeria?
2022-10-07T20:33:07.518Z Ajadudraws:  Even without the NFC existing Nigeria is fulfilled with a lot of artists and artwork. We assume many the NFT space. I think we are #1 when it comes to production of arts.
2022-10-07T20:33:21.858Z Ajadudraws:  It was ranked, I think was it two years ago something we have so much so when the NFC came up, we we have so much in the space it brought it. You know, the FTC brought an opportunity for us to come and shoot our war.
2022-10-07T20:33:28.533Z Ajadudraws:  And that's why we are we are marching in this space. We are more than most countries.
2022-10-07T20:33:39.18Z Blue2black:  But then that's exactly what I'm referring to. You know, it's like through in a degree, then this space, this.
2022-10-07T20:33:45.179Z Ajadudraws:  
2022-10-07T20:33:54.849Z Ajadudraws:  
2022-10-07T20:34:00.389Z Ajadudraws:  
2022-10-07T20:34:02.179Z Ajadudraws:  
2022-10-07T20:34:10.897Z Blue2black:  Method of kind of selling your art and so forth can also develop the arts of the country. So it is a really important in kind of using it in the in this type of way and you know really kind of understanding also just what is needed from you and you know how to really do it right and how to really connect with the crowd. You know there's lots of pointers from this and but the main thing is is.
2022-10-07T20:34:40.946Z Blue2black:  That I also felt feel like it really did develop the arts of Nigeria. And I think that it might be frowned upon a bit by the government and such. But it essentially did develop the arts and it gave an Ave for these students who didn't go to school. Like we didn't have enough money to maybe find a way of, you know, gathering their own money and stuff like that. Relying on being an artist and chiquola do kind of help me out here, you know?
2022-10-07T20:34:50.439Z Shekwoloeth:  
2022-10-07T20:34:52.745Z Blue2black:  Tell me about your experience in being an artist and do you think that like these and modern techniques of nf's can actually develop the arts of the country?
2022-10-07T20:35:01.529Z Shekwoloeth:  I'm sorry, I was trying to omit my mic to other than you were asking question. Yeah, I'm from Nigeria.
2022-10-07T20:35:37.468Z Blue2black:  So yeah, the question is, is, is that you both your caller and a J, you know, how do you think, how do you think the future is, you know what do you see your future as an artist? Do you kind of see yourself like embracing these spaces and embracing, you know, social media more and you know obviously that influence is going to carry and soon there will be a lot more people on the spaces and you know, then you guys who have won.
2022-10-07T20:35:51.291Z Blue2black:  More trained at it and you know, I've already your own networking and these type of things. You will be in the front of the ball game, you know, and there might be a positive future in front of you. So what do you see the future as?
2022-10-07T20:36:02.231Z Blue2black:  Uh shequila, you can speak day while connecting.
2022-10-07T20:36:04.867Z AyatheArtist:  Who's speaking?
2022-10-07T20:36:05.273Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:36:08.592Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:36:08.744Z Blue2black:  Chiquillos should speak now.
2022-10-07T20:36:10.302Z AyatheArtist:  Hello.
2022-10-07T20:36:20.275Z Shekwoloeth:  I'm sorry, I'm kind of having issue here. My phone is giving me a little bit of problem too. Sorry I couldn't hear it.
2022-10-07T20:36:20.731Z AyatheArtist:  I love your accent.
2022-10-07T20:36:22.821Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:36:28.409Z AyatheArtist:  Better axe hunt. I really loved it.
2022-10-07T20:36:37.355Z Blue2black:  But there's also a digital artist and shequila dukanat. Tell us about your art day, please. You haven't really been introduced well enough yet.
2022-10-07T20:36:54.165Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah. Okay. Let me introduce myself. My name is your floss. My reunion. That's my English name. Theofilos. I'm, I'm from Nigeria and I'm 20 years old. And I'm. I'm a digital artist. And I also love taking photos.
2022-10-07T20:36:55.73Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:36:59.973Z AyatheArtist:  One thing I'm gonna say, you have a beautiful accent.
2022-10-07T20:37:08.352Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh you can continue.
2022-10-07T20:37:10.867Z Shekwoloeth:  Oh, oh, thank you.
2022-10-07T20:37:17.315Z Shekwoloeth:  
2022-10-07T20:37:32.091Z LunulaNFTs:  I wanted to ask Sheikhul because I see on your on your profile you have photography but you also have what looks like a I art. So do you do you do a Rai art as well?
2022-10-07T20:37:41.208Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah, yeah, that. Yeah, it is. That's my one of my collection which is on up to see.
2022-10-07T20:37:48.3Z Shekwoloeth:  Which is titled cronies. That's that's a I and I also do the digital out also.
2022-10-07T20:37:55.977Z LunulaNFTs:  That's really cool. And tell me, what program do you use for your I art?
2022-10-07T20:37:58.15Z LunulaNFTs:  I'm curious.
2022-10-07T20:37:59.265Z LunulaNFTs:  
2022-10-07T20:37:59.636Z Shekwoloeth:  Are you Siri I.
2022-10-07T20:38:03.706Z LunulaNFTs:  What is it called?
2022-10-07T20:38:07.152Z LunulaNFTs:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:38:07.133Z Shekwoloeth:  Stereo I do you know about it?
2022-10-07T20:38:15.633Z Shekwoloeth:  
2022-10-07T20:38:20.287Z LunulaNFTs:  Ohh I haven't heard of it but I've always intrigued because I wanted to try I art as well and I I found for example this app called wonder but yeah I'll check out he said stereo.
2022-10-07T20:38:33.046Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah and there are also different type of EI ads apps. You can use Wambu onboard dreams and other apps also.
2022-10-07T20:38:36.571Z Shekwoloeth:  And meet Johnny each, which used this call.
2022-10-07T20:38:42.048Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:38:42.235Z LunulaNFTs:  Have you tried different ones so far?
2022-10-07T20:38:44.512Z LunulaNFTs:  Or just this one?
2022-10-07T20:38:48.057Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah, I've trying night cafe.
2022-10-07T20:38:50.01Z Shekwoloeth:  But it didn't.
2022-10-07T20:38:51.556Z LunulaNFTs:  Ohh yeah, I tried that too. Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:38:58.516Z LunulaNFTs:  But then you have to wait for like a day or something, like you have to wait for many hours for it to be produced, right?
2022-10-07T20:39:00.345Z Shekwoloeth:  Kind of boring.
2022-10-07T20:39:05.156Z Shekwoloeth:  Good.
2022-10-07T20:39:06.314Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah, if you don't pay the. If you don't pay for the for the app.
2022-10-07T20:39:07.866Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:39:12.25Z LunulaNFTs:  So how long have you been making eyes? Is it?
2022-10-07T20:39:12.647Z AyatheArtist:  Unfortunately, that's a big problem.
2022-10-07T20:39:29.268Z Blue2black:  Um, yeah, it's a, it's a, it's actually interesting talking about this, but IRT can essentially you have to remember that if you would go back a few years and you would say, you know.
2022-10-07T20:40:00.312Z Blue2black:  4 cell phones, there used to be people actually employed to switchboards and connect you to the right, you know, place and you know when when cell phones got invented, it actually replaced those jobs, you know. So essentially those jobs did kind of disappear. Now if you would consider AIRT in that regard, then can I art replace the artist, you know, can I artist eventually, you know.
2022-10-07T20:40:01.97Z Blue2black:  That's a difficult question, but.
2022-10-07T20:40:21.499Z Shekwoloeth:  
2022-10-07T20:40:20.33Z Blue2black:  So far I art enhances art and I do see it as an art, but if it gets to the states where it is I I doing, I art then you know, how can you even compete against that? But yeah, that's a cool topic for another day but.
2022-10-07T20:40:22.933Z Shekwoloeth:  
2022-10-07T20:40:37.746Z Blue2black:  Yes, it's interesting times because essentially we are kind of moving towards that being more normalised and being accepted more generally around the world. But can it replace art in general now? I don't think so.
2022-10-07T20:40:41.534Z Shekwoloeth:  
2022-10-07T20:40:43.897Z Blue2black:  I can't just it can incorporate different ways, so I'll just stick with that.
2022-10-07T20:40:46.94Z Blue2black:  Ocean.
2022-10-07T20:40:52.018Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:40:49.539Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah, but you, you know, some, some, some.
2022-10-07T20:41:04.335Z Shekwoloeth:  Actually when the the act is generated some use Photoshop or appropriate to making their way on way in their own unique way.
2022-10-07T20:41:04.871Z Shekwoloeth:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:41:11.878Z AyatheArtist:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:41:15.085Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:41:20.081Z Blue2black:  So we've actually got stream. Your stream is quite, um buffin when it comes to the ways of how technology gets incorporated.
2022-10-07T20:41:46.711Z Blue2black:  In a digital format and how the programs in these type of things actually coming to being and the people in the companies behind these visions they can tell you all about that but besides that just wanted to say hi stream good to see you in the audience there and acknowledge you being there anymore. Welcome to come and speak to us but the Asia colour tell us about your and your your kind of interpretation of of I art.
2022-10-07T20:41:47.554Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:41:55.372Z Blue2black:  Do you see it in hornsey's, your art? Do you think it gives you a like a shortcut or tell us about that.
2022-10-07T20:41:57.6Z Blue2black:  Why are you can talk so well?
2022-10-07T20:42:28.421Z AyatheArtist:  Yeah, just to notify you, I need to go now. I need to prepare everything for the sleep. Unfortunately, it was really a great being in the space, meeting new people, especially Brad Lunula, you and Shaq. Well, it was really nice meeting you guys and I hope to see more of you and your amazing talents. And thank you blue for having me here as.
2022-10-07T20:42:29.549Z AyatheArtist:  Cohost.
2022-10-07T20:42:39.397Z Blue2black:  Always a pleasure having you and Brett. I hope you've taken some pointers from Aya there, this perfect combination of drama and comedy.
2022-10-07T20:42:43.732Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:42:42.985Z BretJolliffe:  That's what I'm gonna aim for.
2022-10-07T20:42:51.465Z LunulaNFTs:  Bye.
2022-10-07T20:42:50.032Z AyatheArtist:  Well, gotta go guys. Sending you all kisses. Bye.
2022-10-07T20:42:53.255Z AyatheArtist:  
2022-10-07T20:43:12.784Z LunulaNFTs:  OK, so stream is here. Uh, how about introduce yourself? I've never met you. I know Blue knows you. So yeah, tell us how are you today? What you've been working on or what have you? What are you working for in the future?
2022-10-07T20:43:18.237Z DaStreamCatcher:  Hi. Hi. Yeah, my name's stream.
2022-10-07T20:43:29.369Z DaStreamCatcher:  Working on right now I'm working on in painting and stable diffusion, rendering some stuff in mid journey, working on a Photoshop image and rendering something out in cinema 40.
2022-10-07T20:43:34.908Z DaStreamCatcher:  So yes, I like a IR. It's fun. It's a really cool tool.
2022-10-07T20:43:39.037Z DaStreamCatcher:  How are you?
2022-10-07T20:43:39.445Z DaStreamCatcher:  
2022-10-07T20:43:40.381Z LunulaNFTs:  Have you made arts?
2022-10-07T20:43:45.063Z DaStreamCatcher:  Ohh yeah.
2022-10-07T20:43:45.627Z LunulaNFTs:  Before a I, have you made just digital art or like any traditional type?
2022-10-07T20:43:53.228Z DaStreamCatcher:  I've been an artist since I was seven years old, so I've I've been doing traditional CGR pretty much. You name it, I've done it.
2022-10-07T20:43:53.354Z DaStreamCatcher:  
2022-10-07T20:43:59.176Z LunulaNFTs:  That's so cool. And what brought you to the NFT space?
2022-10-07T20:44:09.539Z LunulaNFTs:  
2022-10-07T20:44:21.095Z DaStreamCatcher:  The, you know, just kind of the way things are going, the blockchain, nft, cbdc, all the other things, that's where everything is going. So we're all building towns that the the road currently doesn't go to, but when it does go there, we'll be ready and hopefully have businesses to have make us money.
2022-10-07T20:44:25.254Z LunulaNFTs:  Right, yeah, agreed.
2022-10-07T20:44:51.393Z Blue2black:  No lucky um stream. You're actually just such a humble guy and I just love that about you, man. And now look, I'm not, I'm not going to be telling you just how awesome this guy is, but the stream, just tell us about the latest developments in your opinion and on in terms of art and what future do we have to kind of look forward to.
2022-10-07T20:45:01.143Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, I mean, it doesn't really matter how you feel about a I are ultimately, because it just is and it's changing everything. It's a.
2022-10-07T20:45:17.647Z DaStreamCatcher:  You know, back when we were doing dinosaurs and all that kind of stuff on SG I computers in 9596, that was a sea change. That was a paradigm shift that was ground breaking and Earth earth shattering. This is a nuclear bomb. This is a complete.
2022-10-07T20:45:48.992Z DaStreamCatcher:  Shift and change in the way things will get done and I'm just trying to develop work flows and figure out how it works in the process of making art because simply pulling things out of again I've I've done them up to probably 80,000 images at this point in the last six or seven months that I've made and I'm starting to get the eye for the games like I used to get for the rendering engines. I could tell you ohh, that's Softimage. That's alias poweranimator, that's 3D studio.
2022-10-07T20:46:18.614Z DaStreamCatcher:  Back they all had tells and so they're all the AI engines had tells as well. But I'm doing stuff to the point where it's like I don't think you'll be able to tell what I've done because I'm bringing it in a Photoshop. I'm going from mid journey to Dolly to to stable diffusion local to you know round tripping it again. I mean I've got some crazy stuff that's that looks really good. I mean you know like I'm looking at this one I just did with Anthony Bourdain. I started him out as the Punisher and
2022-10-07T20:46:26.963Z DaStreamCatcher:  Process and it really gave me a collage effect that is totally unique and it was really kind of what I was looking for, but you know, just a little different so.
2022-10-07T20:46:29.239Z DaStreamCatcher:  
2022-10-07T20:46:34.551Z DaStreamCatcher:  But it's fun. It's it's amazing. It's it definitely changes everything. You know, the the younger.
2022-10-07T20:46:58.433Z DaStreamCatcher:  Younger people, creatives who come along, will have no preconceived notions about using it. So, you know, to put it into your workflow in some way, shape or form will eventually be a necessity. And you're already using it to some degree or another with Photoshop filters and other different, you know, AI tools. But this just takes it to another level, and then it'll also mean that you're going to be able to create a lot more stuff.
2022-10-07T20:47:04.88Z DaStreamCatcher:  As an independent, a lot more quickly with a lot better quality if you really know what you're doing.
2022-10-07T20:47:21.195Z Blue2black:  And how about is it? Do you think it's possible for a I to develop a I art independent of humans and still get really good results?
2022-10-07T20:47:28.159Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, yeah, it absolutely is. I mean, there was a, there was an AI program that was trained a few years ago.
2022-10-07T20:47:56.1Z DaStreamCatcher:  To create its own art. And it just started going super dark and I think they just turned it off and kind of said, Ohh, never mind, you know, it was one of those things. But yeah, it was, it was generating its own art. I mean there's no, you know, there's no reason that given the proper input parameters, you know, hey bot, you know, art bot, go out and search the web for words and do this or do that, you know, have a free for all and make art out of it. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure there's probably s
2022-10-07T20:48:23.352Z Blue2black:  Most definitely. And that's, uh, that's kind of like the question about this all can it replace an artist? It's, it's really, it's really interesting discussion. But essentially I think we all say that it enhances the art and therefore we really shouldn't feel that it's in competition. It releases people's ability to express themselves and what more than that do you want to achieve?
2022-10-07T20:48:28.419Z DaStreamCatcher:  I mean, I don't, you know, it doesn't replace the artist.
2022-10-07T20:48:33.379Z DaStreamCatcher:  Does it replace Bob Ross? Maybe.
2022-10-07T20:48:40.413Z DaStreamCatcher:  You know, does it replace the the artist who is simply painting a picture to hang on a wall?
2022-10-07T20:49:10.856Z DaStreamCatcher:  To some degree, possibly. But does it? Does it replace a creative person who thinks outside the box, who puts things together in their own mind and then expresses it through imagery, whether it's using a IR to do it in part or not? Is it experience driven? Is it something that is going to be able to take that art and turn it into other things? Whether it's 3D environments or other things like that, the creative process is a lot more complex than hey, look at that art hang hangs on the wall. Pret
2022-10-07T20:49:18.359Z LunulaNFTs:  I completely agree and for example I have this friend who.
2022-10-07T20:49:51.212Z LunulaNFTs:  You would say has no like artistic abilities. Like, I've known her for many years and I've been like trying like hey, let's Draw Something that, you know, just paint something. And should always be like the kind of person was like, no, no. Like she's even afraid to like pick up the the crayon or something, right? But then she, she just started to play around with a I art and start to make the most freaking amazing, beautiful imagery. That just blew my mind, right? But she also like she didn't ch
2022-10-07T20:49:59.995Z LunulaNFTs:  Once that she made, she kept playing with it and kept like refining those images until they got to be so amazing. It was just like.
2022-10-07T20:50:19.809Z LunulaNFTs:  Blowing people's minds, right? So like you could say traditionally, maybe she doesn't have that kind of talent for like her hand holding her hand in a way that she can like draw and paint. But the the creative process in her is definitely super strong and she's still able to like.
2022-10-07T20:50:37.719Z LunulaNFTs:  You know, discern between like what she doesn't like and what she likes and what she does like. It's so mind blowing that she, she is 100% an artist. I would never say no, you're not an artist. She's still curated and made this beautiful collection which sold out.
2022-10-07T20:51:14.046Z Blue2black:  But besides that, it also enables you to think like an artist. And uh, you know what is being an artist more than creating something out of nothing. You know and you're essentially you're using a tool and in all areas you're using a tool. So it's all about the definition of what is an artist to you and but I think as long as it expresses, as long as there is that creative thought going about and when you essentially.
2022-10-07T20:51:32.526Z Blue2black:  Have a vision and you can master that vision and being able to do that through I art can be the fascinating thing and being able to to do complicated things much faster. You know, it like algorithms can really simplify life and it can enhance life so.
2022-10-07T20:51:42.492Z Blue2black:  The question really is is just how much of it do we want to involve in our lives? And that can be an individual question, but it is here to stay.
2022-10-07T20:52:14.6Z Blue2black:  A stream, you should really tell us more man, because you let me just introduce you introduce you to everyone here. So La Nula is next to your she's a painter essentially from Poland and then we've got you who is a haiku artist from Japan and she just places with such a beautiful song and then we got shequila digital artists and also does a bit of.
2022-10-07T20:52:15.167Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:52:37.335Z Blue2black:  Art. And then we got dressed out there that just joined us. And shady and all these guys. Kawasaki, Martin, Shannon, how are you all doing today? TK see you there. Yeah. So stream, you know, you were quite hesitant in using a R first, tell us what made the transition of you actually deciding to go for a art.
2022-10-07T20:53:09.963Z DaStreamCatcher:  I wasn't hesitant about using. Yeah, I heard it all. I don't know where you heard that from. No, I mean, you know, they look, I'm a I'm a professional writer. I've got 3 Maggie Award nominations. I've written long form articles, short stories, creative stuff, and I'm also an artist. And the idea of being able to visualise it my head something creatively, write it down and then translate it into robot speak and add a bunch of code after it and waits and all that other stuff, it tickles every bone
2022-10-07T20:53:40.249Z DaStreamCatcher:  Was actually make stuff that you know nobody's ever seen before and that that is where the trick comes in because it's like you know I can I can spot a mid journey girl from a mile away now you know there's certain things about the the squiggles and the way things render out in stable diffusion versus mid journey or Dolly that I can starting to get a grip on. So you know I want to make sure that when I bring stuff in and clean it up or bring it into 3D and then pop it out or whatever I do it's g
2022-10-07T20:53:41.833Z DaStreamCatcher:  Confusion, you know.
2022-10-07T20:53:55.754Z DaStreamCatcher:  That's why I think you're gonna separate yourself out from, you know, basically as an artist you just got, you know, you just got lots more competition because every computer on Earth is potentially your competition, depending on who sits down in front of it and what they type.
2022-10-07T20:54:08.733Z DaStreamCatcher:  Okay.
2022-10-07T20:54:16.782Z Blue2black:  But how unique can you be because there's like handbags for these, you know, like interpretations already, you know? So you know, I would have been necessary for you to essentially write your own protocol book just to to know like, how you did that.
2022-10-07T20:54:44.198Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:54:49.396Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, I mean, you know, everything has a trickle down kind of thing where you know, right now you have to clone GitHub repositories and you have to do certain things with Python And then you know, all this other stuff to kind of really push the envelope. And I'm getting there and I'm, I'm getting a car. Like then the latest hotness is Dream Booth for stable diffusion, which is basically stable diffusion was named by a smart ass because it's anything but stable. You can never get the same image o
2022-10-07T20:55:09.03Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:55:19.658Z DaStreamCatcher:  Provide stability to stable diffusion where I could take like 10 images of my face, you know, my head, me in different, you know, expressions and then like 10 images of my full body. I can input that in a very very simple script that says, you know, this is what I want basically to go for and his name is Chris Stream and you know, so and then I go into the game after I've got that set up and stable diffusion at 30 RTX 3090 or better and I type in what I want like Chris as Neo from the matrix mov
2022-10-07T20:55:49.855Z DaStreamCatcher:  Be with me as instead of counter reefs. I mean, you know like perfectly or me as a Lego figure or whatever. And they just keep going and it's it's incredible what it can do and it gives you stability so that you could actually create a comic book or storyboards for our movie or whatever it might be. So man, there's just, you know, there's really need stuff coming out. There's text to 3D coming out. There's all kinds of amazing stuff. But again, you're going to have a lot, a sea of crap you're go
2022-10-07T20:55:59.12Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:56:02.27Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well this is like, ohh, that's cool. And then just like they walk away because they're not creators, most people don't create. The people who are going to choose to create and create with this, you might see the the creator economy get bigger because of it, but not by much.
2022-10-07T20:56:10.4Z DaStreamCatcher:  People who are destined to create are destined to create and those who are not are not, and there's like 95% of them consume and 5% create.
2022-10-07T20:56:12.77Z DaStreamCatcher:  That's the rules.
2022-10-07T20:56:16.16Z Blue2black:  That's quite scary.
2022-10-07T20:56:16.577Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:56:20.593Z Blue2black:  But then again, everybody can't be celebrity scandal.
2022-10-07T20:56:43.552Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:56:47.317Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:56:46.524Z DaStreamCatcher:  Everybody serves. Everybody hopefully serves a purpose on this planet. No matter your experience, intelligence level, desire to create or not, it doesn't matter. But most people are generally fine living their lives, dude. Going about their day, having their fun, enjoying themselves and not thinking about making art or creating stuff. That's not typical. When you're an artist, you tend to hang around other people who are artists and whatever and you get myopic. You don't see it.
2022-10-07T20:56:50.899Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:56:52.088Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:56:53.88Z Blue2black:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T20:56:58.766Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:56:59.264Z DaStreamCatcher:  But you know, just because of these new tools are so easy to use and everything doesn't mean somebody can sit down and make great stuff with them just because they're not creative. Look at the look at the mid journey feed or, you know, a lexical feed.
2022-10-07T20:57:18.491Z DaStreamCatcher:  People are getting more complicated because mostly they're copying and pasting. You know, when I started seeing the mid journey feed, for example, I was seeing forward prompts, you know, which like Hulk is Hulk and address, you know, those kinds of things. It was like the standard. So you know, people who say they're creative, a lot of them aren't even that creative.
2022-10-07T20:57:34.825Z Blue2black:  But then again, you know, the guys with the best computers, will they be kind of running the the scene for a while or, you know, is there still a chance on open source?
2022-10-07T20:57:46.56Z Blue2black:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T20:58:05.776Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, I mean, to a degree hardware counts. Just like this dream booth thing that I'm talking about. I need to buy an RX3090 or better with 24 gigs of VRAM in order to do it. But yeah, I'll sell my, you know, second kid for that. I mean, it's like, I'll, yeah, I'll make sure to get one because it's it's moving things forward. I want to start telling people about it. We're going to start broadcasting on freaking Tuesday, come hell or high water on YouTube live, and we're going to go Tuesdays, Thur
2022-10-07T20:58:26.39Z DaStreamCatcher:  But this is the this is the way of the future. It's just if you use it as an output mechanism for minting art, we should have a talk. Because that's not what it's about. It's about, you know, what's your vision as an artist is in your head. Should never be what what is never what the output of the gan is ever. It's another interpretation of yours. So you need to bring it back to yours.
2022-10-07T20:58:28.963Z Blue2black:  I say.
2022-10-07T20:59:00.009Z Blue2black:  And like tell me in terms of like adding metadata and these type of things are they are they waste of kind of simplifying that because I really feel that essentially what's going to happen is this nfts are going to start becoming searchable more by their metadata and these type of information are going to be quite important in terms of also defining the AI art in terms of you know classifications.
2022-10-07T20:59:06.106Z Blue2black:  Because there's always subcategories coming out as soon as something like this becomes so popular.
2022-10-07T20:59:09.627Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T20:59:38.249Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, I mean, if you talking about the difference between like input prompts versus metadata, I mean prompts are complicated, complicated depending on what you're going for. But as far as metadata goes, it's interesting that you brought that up because I just found out stable diffusion dumps everything into the metadata. The image, everything, the whole prompt, the seed, the, you know, the waiting. It gives you everything right in the metadata, which was really handy because I was copying and pa
2022-10-07T20:59:38.97Z DaStreamCatcher:  Um.
2022-10-07T20:59:41.835Z Blue2black:  Yeah, because that that.
2022-10-07T20:59:44.307Z DaStreamCatcher:  But the image prompts and everything. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like waiting, you know? I.
2022-10-07T20:59:44.448Z Blue2black:  That should be told.
2022-10-07T20:59:45.822Z DaStreamCatcher:  What?
2022-10-07T20:59:49.928Z Blue2black:  Because in an in an NFD, that'll also be stored within it.
2022-10-07T20:59:58.639Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, it could be potentially. I mean, you know, usually if you're like doing what I'm doing, the metadata is completely wiped away by the time I'm done.
2022-10-07T21:00:03.677Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:00:15.194Z DaStreamCatcher:  But you know that it all depends. You could store the metadata there, but well, The thing is, is if The funny thing is is, yeah, people are rendering out a stable diffusion and minting the artwork and selling it. Yeah, and then all the metadata is there, including their prompt, what they used to generate it.
2022-10-07T21:00:18.295Z Blue2black:  That's very interesting.
2022-10-07T21:00:24.542Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:00:29.078Z DaStreamCatcher:  Unless they specifically went in and turned it off, and I don't even know how to do that. So I mean, I know how to do it, but I know I know how it's done. I just don't know if it's possible to do and stable to fusion. I don't know if you can do that, but I have a switch or not.
2022-10-07T21:00:31.575Z DaStreamCatcher:  
2022-10-07T21:01:00.601Z Blue2black:  Yeah, The funny thing is windy, Windy had this whole thing about this debate about I art and these people shutting down, you know, these galleries shutting down for exhibitions of R they had this perfect quote now off of the line that this guy used to create, you know, this specific art and just how they just really pointed out how elaborate those, like scripting can actually become.
2022-10-07T21:01:04.141Z Blue2black:  Do you translate your vision to the computer?
2022-10-07T21:01:32.118Z DaStreamCatcher:  Ohh yeah there. Well I mean, you know for me in painting is one of the things that's really amazing because I can basically get the image I want in pieces and then composite in Photoshop, but I can build it inside of the image itself just by doing simple masking. So that's really powerful. But yeah, I mean I anything I see come out of the game, there's no way I'd let it loose into the wild as my own heart. I mean it just that's not happening.
2022-10-07T21:01:34.507Z Blue2black:  Now coming back.
2022-10-07T21:01:39.068Z DaStreamCatcher:  I I have to I have to mess with it in Photoshop first. I have to I have to add things to it and change it and make it my own.
2022-10-07T21:02:10.716Z Blue2black:  Now coming back to the metadata, you see the importance really lies in terms of being flooded. When you start getting flooded with these type of arts then it really becomes like important for you to define the artwork better and especially with music it starts becoming quite a priority to to have the metadata like kind of searchable and to categorised and.
2022-10-07T21:02:36.614Z Blue2black:  These type of things becomes quite an issue so that you know John, race and subcategories you know of music can be like become more searchable in terms of, you know, looking for it on the Internet. Ohh well, on the blockchain. But the metadata becomes quite important now and people who don't know anything about metadata and entering metadata might then be kind of left in the dark and unsearchable.
2022-10-07T21:02:44.027Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, it's another aspect of knowing your tools you know, and knowing what you're dealing with. I mean if you've dealt with.
2022-10-07T21:03:14.728Z DaStreamCatcher:  If you've dealt with image information at all on a computer and any kind of creative capacity for any period of time, you should know about EXIF data. So you know. If you don't, then you you know, I don't know what you've been doing, but EXIF data is the metadata that's stored in an image, the XF and you know, yeah, it's not. It's not sacrosanct either. There's apps you can change or use to change it, it's whatever. It's just image data that you embed inside of the image for any number of purpos
2022-10-07T21:03:25.026Z DaStreamCatcher:  Or NFT I sing, you know, I mean anything. Anything you add to the image of metadata wise makes that, you know image more findable, searchable, all kinds of things.
2022-10-07T21:03:38.269Z DaStreamCatcher:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T21:03:47.249Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, I mean, I know we're talking about a IR like, I'll post one of the ones I've got up on Twitter trying to find it here on.
2022-10-07T21:03:52.673Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:03:57.306Z DaStreamCatcher:  This is one of a series I'm working on called after, but it's spelled as I FTR and it's about what happens after humanity is gone from the earth.
2022-10-07T21:03:59.922Z DaStreamCatcher:  But they're left something behind.
2022-10-07T21:04:09.881Z Blue2black:  So funny enough, this old thing about the IR really reminds me of, you know, that concept of what's it called?
2022-10-07T21:04:14.341Z Blue2black:  Signet. So do you think?
2022-10-07T21:04:17.531Z DaStreamCatcher:  Yeah, we're building Skynet. Are you kidding? Yeah, absolutely.
2022-10-07T21:04:21.325Z Blue2black:  You could. Do you think we are going actually what I was going to say? Do you think we are both?
2022-10-07T21:04:23.667Z DaStreamCatcher:  Yeah, we're going, we're going to have to fight for. We're going to have to fight for our future at one point. But it's fun getting there.
2022-10-07T21:04:31.792Z Blue2black:  Yeah, no. So Skynet's coming, becoming a reality sooner. Enough, enough. It's going to be streamed chronicles.
2022-10-07T21:04:34.644Z Blue2black:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T21:04:38.107Z Blue2black:  But now it's interesting times. Um.
2022-10-07T21:04:40.709Z Blue2black:  No, I I actually.
2022-10-07T21:05:12.998Z Blue2black:  Find these other people. Because of this association with I art, sometimes I get other people who are also involved in artificial intelligence but in other ways now of applying it to businesses and applying it to to kind of see how the artificial intelligence can simplify certain you know acts of society and like contribute in economy, mechanical way maybe, but also in a kind of intellectual.
2022-10-07T21:05:34.595Z Blue2black:  Right. And how it can make decisions based on, you know, probability basically. But how the I can determine probability much more accurate than a human and much faster. So inevitably it's more accurate because it can determine the the equation much faster than a human can, you know.
2022-10-07T21:05:40.032Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:06:04.518Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, yeah I mean I don't agree with that fully though. I mean we we have rash we have rationality and and decision making centers that you know, they're talking that until they get to something that they want that Ray Kurzweil calls the singularity, which I hope to God we never get there because that is Skynet. You know if if we do get there that's what you're talking about. But I mean otherwise I'm not you know I'm not impressed by AI systems and their decision making processes that the art st
2022-10-07T21:06:29.504Z Blue2black:  No.
2022-10-07T21:06:29.914Z DaStreamCatcher:  Netflix, it's called travellers started that guy from Will and Grace. I think it's, I think it was a Canadian production but really really good series. But it was about trying time travellers coming back possessing bodies of people who were just about to die and trying to save the future because in the future everything was screwed up for you know, any number of reasons. But in the future the the future is run by an A I. And I'm like Oh my God what a frigging dystopian nightmare that is. You kno
2022-10-07T21:06:51.028Z Blue2black:  Yeah. So, um, so by the way, um lunula, do you think we've answered your question in terms of IoT or are you actually more confused now and so like with surrounded by so many technical terms that you actually thought wish you actually never even asked that question in the first place?
2022-10-07T21:06:59.975Z LunulaNFTs:  No, I'm not like overwhelmed or anything. I'm in fact, I'm more intrigued.
2022-10-07T21:07:18.085Z LunulaNFTs:  I started to play around with a I arts just like this week and I honestly I have all these ideas like ohh, I can cut this out like what stream was talking about like collaging things and actually it could be very helpful for an artist to.
2022-10-07T21:07:27.266Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah, just to just to go deeper into their art for me. Like when I when I make something that I find kind of like interesting.
2022-10-07T21:07:37.117Z LunulaNFTs:  I feel like ohh I can like draw over this and put this here and put that there and make doesn't make this into this. You know it it's giving me more ideas and I feel like.
2022-10-07T21:07:39.641Z LunulaNFTs:  I feel like.
2022-10-07T21:08:02.945Z LunulaNFTs:  Many people are going to be doing this, you know, using it as a tool. I mean people are already doing it. It's a tool. And what we do with our tools varies, right? Like so many people can have paint brushes and can paint something, but then like a few will paint something that is so amazing and mind blowing that.
2022-10-07T21:08:24.48Z LunulaNFTs:  It's kind of the same with a IR. I've seen so many. I like generated artworks on Twitter that look so similar, that look literally almost the same. You know, they're typing in the same stuff or I don't know what it is, but a few are just like, whoa, you meet that on a I like, how like, what did you do? You know, so.
2022-10-07T21:08:31.102Z LunulaNFTs:  I think it will. It will always vary between who uses it and.
2022-10-07T21:08:37.482Z LunulaNFTs:  I mean, I'll be I'm still intrigued to see, like, what the actual computers themselves are gonna make.
2022-10-07T21:08:38.805Z LunulaNFTs:  No.
2022-10-07T21:08:46.384Z DaStreamCatcher:  
2022-10-07T21:08:47.759Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well.
2022-10-07T21:08:48.52Z LunulaNFTs:  But who knows if people are gonna be liking it? It's it's a really interesting experiment. I'm not really scared of it. I'm just more intrigued.
2022-10-07T21:09:19.322Z DaStreamCatcher:  It's to me, as an artist, you're going to have to be an experienced creator. You're going to have to be someone that drives experience. Because if you think about it this way, like 5-6, seven years down the road, whenever things really gel with the Apple, a VR headset or whatever. So you got a pair of ray bans you put on, basically minority report everywhere you go. You could speak environments into existence as you walk through, you say, you know, I want the New York City as I'm walking through
2022-10-07T21:09:49.782Z DaStreamCatcher:  Like 5 bucks for the privilege, by the way, you know, or you can have something that's automated, that's free, that just generates random crap for you. And you could be happy with that. Or you could take a full blown experience, you know, from somebody that that is building so you're actually went with your art. You're building experiences that people are engaging with and living in and and and living vicariously through and connecting to. Your art becomes a storytelling mechanism far more than 
2022-10-07T21:09:50.758Z DaStreamCatcher:  Who pretty?
2022-10-07T21:10:00.445Z LunulaNFTs:  I love what you just said. It's actually what I wanted to kind of do with my art. I always thought, like, how cool would it be just to like.
2022-10-07T21:10:03.175Z LunulaNFTs:  Make a movie like this, but.
2022-10-07T21:10:27.696Z LunulaNFTs:  How much cooler would it be to, like, make it into this? Like an app? I don't know what you've been called that, right? But you purchased the program and then you can just, I want this cosmic fairy to come out. I want to be here. I want to be in this. I want to go through the portal. I would love that. And I hope that I, our world, this planet's going to get more interesting because of this.
2022-10-07T21:10:35.654Z DaStreamCatcher:  Ohh, it's gonna 18 to 24 months, you're gonna see something drop from Apple that's gonna blow you away.
2022-10-07T21:10:37.993Z LunulaNFTs:  What is it?
2022-10-07T21:10:40.698Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well.
2022-10-07T21:10:44.046Z Blue2black:  And Google is also investing a lot into I recently, by the way.
2022-10-07T21:11:13.59Z DaStreamCatcher:  It's it's Br Nanna it's they're gonna Jack into your body you know I'm kidding the Robert Scoble and and I both agree it's some sort of VR had said he believes that the first version is going to be some over I overhear experience that's going to be a paradigm shifting you know be your virtual office your virtual screen all this stuff connect to your iPhone or iPad of course but but we both agree that the the killer app is going to be the second Gen which is going to be a pair of ray bans that yo
2022-10-07T21:11:33.992Z DaStreamCatcher:  You know 240 Hertz response time Lidar on the front, so you its hands, you know, control controller free. It tracks your hands and maps the environment around you and all of a sudden you've got a full blown a RXR experience and possibly even dimmed to opaque for VR. So that's that's the killer app that we're all waiting for and we'll build, we're building for.
2022-10-07T21:11:47.89Z LunulaNFTs:  By the way, if anybody here on the floor this listeners want to come up, just raise your head.
2022-10-07T21:11:50.96Z LunulaNFTs:  Or just request microphone.
2022-10-07T21:12:12.676Z Blue2black:  Yeah, but you're definitely gonna be speaking tonight because I know you know a lot about other implications of artificial intelligence. So by the way, but yeah, stream, you're absolutely right. We've got a future ahead of us that, you know, the phone, everything is supposed to go up Moore's law, you know, so essentially what have we got left? You know, it's, it's.
2022-10-07T21:12:27.372Z Blue2black:  It would. There was this saying that the people in 2030, this is going to be a whole new division of rich and poor and rich are simply going to be the people who own daughter and the people who don't.
2022-10-07T21:12:32.598Z DaStreamCatcher:  Sorry.
2022-10-07T21:12:37.244Z Blue2black:  Uh, have you heard about that before?
2022-10-07T21:12:52Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, yeah, the, I mean these people are the they're, they're the modern day 21st century. Uh they're the technocrats. That's what they're called, technocrats. And they're the data oligarch's. They they control the society through data. Yes, absolutely.
2022-10-07T21:13:02.96Z Blue2black:  Now in essentially then you know how do you own your own daughter because you sent this even this recording is somewhat also.
2022-10-07T21:13:16.927Z Blue2black:  It's owned by Twitter to degree and I mean, uh, NFD spice nd talk is also about, you know, like using the data and using the disk. So essentially you know.
2022-10-07T21:13:48.58Z Blue2black:  What do you do with that? How do you own daughter? How how do you go about it? You know, how do you actually empower yourself? And one of those ways is basically now and if D's it is your way of owning daughter. Because part of an NFT that makes it popular in terms of being used by artists is exactly that. You can prove their authenticity, you can prove who created it. And that really boosted a lot because now pictures have an an author.
2022-10-07T21:13:59.137Z Blue2black:  And you, as long as you're on the blockchain, you can always kind of research who's the original author of this specific artwork or painting or photography or whatever.
2022-10-07T21:14:06.433Z Blue2black:  And that makes it so important. So it is one way of giving back to the artist of the artist actually owning his own daughter.
2022-10-07T21:14:38.859Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, what it does is it, it validates digital content and provides a trackable, traceable, taxable way to do it that benefits the artist. I mean, you know, I always, I keep saying this blockchain technology and NFT is inherently are boring. There's there, they're, you know, 21st century bar codes. What they can do however, is amazing. You know, 10%, you know, royalties moving forward, memberships, proof of attendance protocol, any number of things we can think of. These new technologies are gre
2022-10-07T21:15:09.085Z DaStreamCatcher:  More. But they they they do absolutely nothing to remove the need for standard business practices and I proper ideas, proper everything you know and that this space just does not have. And plus it's not there is no such thing as Web 3 and decentralization. It's all a myth. We're all playing on the pipes of the Internet that were built by ARPA, DARPA, net and CERN and those boys and girls. And we will always be playing on those pipes until somebody shows me a network running independently of the 
2022-10-07T21:15:12.131Z DaStreamCatcher:  Web three. Then stop talking about it like that.
2022-10-07T21:15:16.877Z Blue2black:  But yeah, this whole web three thing, it really reminds me of the beehive.
2022-10-07T21:15:45.505Z Blue2black:  I don't know if any of you know about the BI, but um, um, yeah, basically the beehive was this attempt at having this separate kind of network, separate kind of system, separate kind of everything where people were just basically doing in saying everything, anything they wanted. And you know, they started, started becoming a little bit too black market ish and it got shut down and the Internet really evolved after that.
2022-10-07T21:16:17.276Z Blue2black:  I don't know, but do you know about the BI and that experience that would actually be interesting and then I just wanted to quickly mention that the sequel I'm going to come back to you now and and you I would like to get your perspective on AI art as well and if you've tried it out and then Hello Galaxy and nice sanctuary of happiness how you doing tonight? So at the moment we kind of discussing the future of AI art and just implementations of it all and so forth and it's been a really.
2022-10-07T21:16:21.873Z Blue2black:  Interesting discussion. And we kind of went into almost Skynet and all that lot and.
2022-10-07T21:16:34.554Z Blue2black:  Now we're coming back to, you know, just other aspects of I art and aspects of technology and the growth of technology and how it really impacts the artist, so.
2022-10-07T21:16:37.922Z Blue2black:  In terms of a digital revolution then?
2022-10-07T21:17:08.308Z Blue2black:  We as artists have much more, much more tools to our access and we can simplify and shorten the process of doing this. But then we have to accept the fact that there will be some kind of Telltale's to it being digital digitally enhanced probably I art you know that's association will will remain in the future where all digital artworks will have a kind of association with the probability of IoT.
2022-10-07T21:17:17.487Z Blue2black:  But good to see you. You're a sanctuary of happiness. So stream.
2022-10-07T21:17:40.776Z Blue2black:  Um, yeah, we got it. We got interesting times ahead of us. So if those, if those are a bands really comes into reality, imagine social media then, I mean imagine you're probably going to be everybody's already walking into furniture and bowls and stuff like that, just looking at their phone all day. How is that going to influence the the child of the future?
2022-10-07T21:17:58.218Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, they won't be looking at their all day. They're they'll be doing everything through voice activation, touch controls, and all holographic interfaces that are projected in front of their face. I mean, you know, within the within a few generations, the iPhone may not even have a screen.
2022-10-07T21:18:07.741Z DaStreamCatcher:  You carpeted. I couldn't hear.
2022-10-07T21:18:07.965Z Blue2black:  Yeah. So another interesting point, you know, in 2010 and 11 I read this statistic that said that.
2022-10-07T21:18:15.585Z Blue2black:  Ohh okay in 2010 I heard this this this statistic that 10% of babies.
2022-10-07T21:18:21.302Z DaStreamCatcher:  Am I still hot?
2022-10-07T21:18:25.422Z DaStreamCatcher:  Hello.
2022-10-07T21:18:25.11Z Blue2black:  Are now raised in in the states they first would not. Yeah, I can hear you can you can't hear me.
2022-10-07T21:18:31.768Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, I think I got rugged. Ohh I got a little.
2022-10-07T21:18:31.865Z Blue2black:  I can hear you can lunula? Can you stream? And uh, just tell him.
2022-10-07T21:18:34.397Z Blue2black:  Can you hear me again?
2022-10-07T21:18:35.026Z DaStreamCatcher:  Come up there.
2022-10-07T21:18:38.471Z DaStreamCatcher:  OK, well, hang out for a second.
2022-10-07T21:18:38.868Z Blue2black:  Alan Miller.
2022-10-07T21:18:43.241Z LunulaNFTs:  I can hear blue. I can. I can hear everyone I feel.
2022-10-07T21:18:45.748Z LunulaNFTs:  
2022-10-07T21:18:45.457Z Blue2black:  I think it's me want here.
2022-10-07T21:18:46.4Z DaStreamCatcher:  Ah, you can hear blue. OK, I gotta leave.
2022-10-07T21:18:51.686Z Blue2black:  OK. So you have to tell him. OK, yeah.
2022-10-07T21:18:54.32Z Blue2black:  So you have to leave and you have to come back.
2022-10-07T21:19:04.824Z Blue2black:  Yeah, so you let's get back to you. You have you ever experimented with a R? And then are we gonna introduce Galaxy and strong theory?
2022-10-07T21:19:11.1Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:19:15.649Z GalaxydLABS:  Hello. Hi.
2022-10-07T21:19:22.981Z Blue2black:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T21:19:24.355Z GalaxydLABS:  I'm going to apologise in advance if I'm gonna be yelling at my dog who's is a little rescue dog and she wanders off.
2022-10-07T21:19:35.342Z GalaxydLABS:  No, I don't have any experience with a I art and I'm all really interested in how it's gonna progress and loving the conversation pieces that you've got going on.
2022-10-07T21:19:38.093Z GalaxydLABS:  Just from.
2022-10-07T21:19:45.54Z GalaxydLABS:  My perspective being written you in this space and actually watching and learning a lot.
2022-10-07T21:19:50.759Z GalaxydLABS:  And the art set I've got up there is actually from a.
2022-10-07T21:19:56.648Z GalaxydLABS:  A really awesome tattoo artist here in New Zealand and his skill set and he.
2022-10-07T21:19:56.558Z Blue2black:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T21:19:59.891Z GalaxydLABS:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T21:20:02.496Z GalaxydLABS:  But.
2022-10-07T21:20:04.266Z Blue2black:  Are you gonna keep it for us or should I?
2022-10-07T21:20:06.271Z GalaxydLABS:  Sorry.
2022-10-07T21:20:13.213Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:20:15.757Z GalaxydLABS:  Hello.
2022-10-07T21:20:17.76Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:20:20.989Z Blue2black:  Sorry, my mic seemed to give a bit of distortion.
2022-10-07T21:20:23.274Z GalaxydLABS:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T21:20:25.356Z Blue2black:  So are you going to share your work or should I?
2022-10-07T21:20:27.881Z GalaxydLABS:  Am I going to do my work?
2022-10-07T21:20:33.249Z Blue2black:  Yes, me too.
2022-10-07T21:20:33.347Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:20:32.773Z GalaxydLABS:  Hello.
2022-10-07T21:20:35.942Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah, if you can pin your artwork up top or he can pin it for you.
2022-10-07T21:20:35.365Z GalaxydLABS:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T21:20:39.237Z GalaxydLABS:  I don't know how to do that yet, but.
2022-10-07T21:20:42.584Z GalaxydLABS:  You can try how do you do it.
2022-10-07T21:20:44.031Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:20:46.044Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:20:49.089Z GalaxydLABS:  Okay.
2022-10-07T21:20:52.163Z LunulaNFTs:  Well, just go to the, let's say go to your profile and go to the pin or to the tweet that you would like to show us.
2022-10-07T21:20:58.017Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:20:56.86Z GalaxydLABS:  Cortana.
2022-10-07T21:21:00.419Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:21:06.232Z LunulaNFTs:  Um, let's see like for example the first one you have there and then when you go to share it should show a blue to black space and you click on that and that will pin it on top.
2022-10-07T21:21:10.213Z GalaxydLABS:  Bluetooth send direct.
2022-10-07T21:21:15.926Z GalaxydLABS:  Copy link I don't have the Bluetooth thing happening.
2022-10-07T21:21:22.407Z LunulaNFTs:  At the very top shirt with tweet and underneath that black Bluetooth black face.
2022-10-07T21:21:30.52Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:21:29.655Z GalaxydLABS:  Yeah, yeah, I'm Bluetooth. Maybe.
2022-10-07T21:21:33.202Z GalaxydLABS:  Make that I'm having some um.
2022-10-07T21:21:37.287Z GalaxydLABS:  Issues here, so maybe it's just not coming up with them.
2022-10-07T21:21:39.661Z LunulaNFTs:  Well, I can do it for you for now.
2022-10-07T21:21:39.695Z LunulaNFTs:  
2022-10-07T21:21:42.108Z LunulaNFTs:  But it's good practice.
2022-10-07T21:21:40.785Z GalaxydLABS:  OK. Yeah, so.
2022-10-07T21:21:54.715Z GalaxydLABS:  Learning, learning. Um and it's it is really fascinating. And this artist is really beautiful. Put this aside because he wasn't earning.
2022-10-07T21:22:23.34Z GalaxydLABS:  Money out of art went into tattoo artistry here to support his family and and kind of left his dream. And randomly through different circumstances I came along and actually said why don't we get your art back out there and start promoting it because it's got a really good community story about empowerment of people and emotional intelligence and stuff. So my background has been an architecture.
2022-10-07T21:22:25.62Z GalaxydLABS:  I.
2022-10-07T21:22:39.412Z GalaxydLABS:  Well, I love the space and then I moved on. I saw a huge gap in the way that often the way that you do design doesn't really take into account the client and the community as much as it should.
2022-10-07T21:22:47.143Z GalaxydLABS:  So I went into a lot of government sector work to understand what was really happening and saw there's a big gap in how.
2022-10-07T21:22:49.841Z GalaxydLABS:  Community is created had designers.
2022-10-07T21:22:59.027Z GalaxydLABS:  Often not used to support community and to help the wellbeing of people and and that's where I'm passionate about.
2022-10-07T21:23:03.474Z GalaxydLABS:  Us. Except I'm not as talented as like you guys all here.
2022-10-07T21:23:06.204Z GalaxydLABS:  But one thing I saw was.
2022-10-07T21:23:26.614Z GalaxydLABS:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T21:23:28.65Z Blue2black:  One second, one second though. One second though I know what you're referring to there. You're referring to the the outlay of a of a town and how they already kind of predict where the the poorer society members will be living and where the rich and where the middle class and how that really comes into play in terms of.
2022-10-07T21:23:29.025Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:23:32.678Z Blue2black:  All of the aspects of the society.
2022-10-07T21:23:38.457Z GalaxydLABS:  Yeah, and and on a smaller scale like recently I was working with the ambulance service here.
2022-10-07T21:23:48.898Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:23:50.009Z GalaxydLABS:  And about how you can remove a trauma experience from a paramedic as they returned to the building. And actually how can the building support this Wellness and healing within that person?
2022-10-07T21:23:55.344Z GalaxydLABS:  And it was always such a struggle at a management level of light. These people don't need it.
2022-10-07T21:23:58.1Z GalaxydLABS:  And it's it's heart breaking.
2022-10-07T21:24:04.722Z GalaxydLABS:  But one thing I really notice because I started life hand drawing in architecture.
2022-10-07T21:24:14.041Z GalaxydLABS:  And was as learning under some amazing people and we had this beauty of connecting with the what we call them like elders maybe.
2022-10-07T21:24:17.334Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:24:32.746Z GalaxydLABS:  And everyone would go around and look at your work and come and critique and give you, you know, some advice or the pick up a pen and start colouring and you know, so you have to throw interaction and community and as soon as it tend to computers. I really disliked it because it became so insular.
2022-10-07T21:24:41.694Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:24:42.929Z GalaxydLABS:  And that's it's taken a while for architecture to change and that's where I feel like with a I and art how.
2022-10-07T21:24:52.481Z GalaxydLABS:  Going to go through a phase of actually not being there for the Community or the people that are actually creating the stuff as much as it could be.
2022-10-07T21:24:56.532Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:24:59.533Z Blue2black:  Uh, interesting perspective, so.
2022-10-07T21:25:03.968Z GalaxydLABS:  Never.
2022-10-07T21:25:06.134Z Blue2black:  Coming back to this Kung Fu millionaire, do you tell me about the character?
2022-10-07T21:25:06.667Z GalaxydLABS:  Pepper.
2022-10-07T21:25:09.483Z GalaxydLABS:  You've gotta read the story.
2022-10-07T21:25:25.491Z GalaxydLABS:  She's she's basically. I won't, I won't give away too much because what we're trying to do is actually build a story and then come out and figure out where we're going to actually release some things first and what we can afford to do, which is probably.
2022-10-07T21:25:32.749Z GalaxydLABS:  Providing some digital comics, but so Kung Fu millionaire, she's basically a lady that learned.
2022-10-07T21:25:35.483Z GalaxydLABS:  How to?
2022-10-07T21:25:43.056Z GalaxydLABS:  Have to, you know, to fight the the powers and the energy of the world that was actually trying to bring corruption in.
2022-10-07T21:25:57.322Z GalaxydLABS:  And city learned to master her skills and she became a millionaire through this. And then she used that money to help young people and to teach people about spiritual awareness, about being present, about.
2022-10-07T21:26:03.21Z GalaxydLABS:  However, if you combine your skills, you can actually overpower a lot of stuff.
2022-10-07T21:26:05.737Z GalaxydLABS:  So there's a really cool story in it.
2022-10-07T21:26:15.837Z Blue2black:  Wow, that's what sounds quite motivational. But there is there like a life lesson of your own kind of flight through this?
2022-10-07T21:26:15.453Z GalaxydLABS:  When I am gone.
2022-10-07T21:26:17.885Z GalaxydLABS:  Sorry, is there a?
2022-10-07T21:26:20.711Z GalaxydLABS:  Just go to bed soon.
2022-10-07T21:26:23.946Z Blue2black:  Is it your life lesson that you kind of giving through this?
2022-10-07T21:26:25.049Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:26:31.047Z GalaxydLABS:  Yeah. Well, we give, we, we uh, we want to give through this, yeah.
2022-10-07T21:26:33.517Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:26:36.631Z GalaxydLABS:  I'm just, it's cutting out a wee bit. Might be where I'm standing.
2022-10-07T21:26:43.281Z GalaxydLABS:  Great.
2022-10-07T21:26:45.275Z Blue2black:  Uh, is this story available as an NFD, and how does it work? How does the NFC Diana tie in with you?
2022-10-07T21:27:00.185Z GalaxydLABS:  So we're just starting some this journey and we want it to be the long long haul. And interestingly with there's almost too much content and there's the struggle of when you don't have community, too much content is overwhelming.
2022-10-07T21:27:07.266Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:27:09.574Z GalaxydLABS:  Um, So what we're looking at doing is 7 comics, and I've just got a quote on today of how we can get those into a digital comic.
2022-10-07T21:27:15.808Z GalaxydLABS:  And what the strategy might be of like, do we actually fear?
2022-10-07T21:27:25.974Z GalaxydLABS:  Some emotional intelligence PFP that we've got and just give them out to people. So we're just working through that at the moment as to how we get that story story out there.
2022-10-07T21:27:34.632Z GalaxydLABS:  We've also got a lot of emotional intelligence books that we want to donate to education and community as well, so.
2022-10-07T21:27:38.083Z GalaxydLABS:  Yeah, just say I'm learning a lot.
2022-10-07T21:27:41.712Z GalaxydLABS:  And trying to figure out where to go first because it's not about the.
2022-10-07T21:27:45.651Z GalaxydLABS:  Of the heart. For FOMO, it's about.
2022-10-07T21:27:51.669Z GalaxydLABS:  How we can create a decent community and and help people and help with mental illness.
2022-10-07T21:27:54.51Z GalaxydLABS:  No health and stuff.
2022-10-07T21:28:12.395Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:28:11.681Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:28:13.308Z Blue2black:  Now that's very positive in general. And then I just see we've got placed with another few people. Just wanted to quickly give a quick shout out to those who just joined Slava, blame all of you. I can see you there in the bottom. Thank you for coming.
2022-10-07T21:28:38.81Z Blue2black:  Now we're just busy talking to Galaxy here. Galaxy's got quite a lot of insight in terms of society and all that lot, but she's she's applying her knowledge and her wisdom in terms of, you know, these characters of character of Kung Fu millionaire and quite an interesting concept and ASB. Good to see you in the bottom there.
2022-10-07T21:28:41.255Z Blue2black:  Tracking up to the top.
2022-10-07T21:28:43.487Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:28:47.41Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:28:57.411Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:29:01.796Z Blue2black:  Ohh my phone seems to be a little slippery. Um But yeah Galaxy, please continue. I'm I'm. I'm finding it interesting just how this story is developing. And you know just to.
2022-10-07T21:29:07.257Z Blue2black:  Your insight into this, because it seems like there's a noble cause behind us all.
2022-10-07T21:29:09.581Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:29:14.623Z GalaxydLABS:  Yeah, I think through a lot of media, lot of rejection and.
2022-10-07T21:29:21.457Z GalaxydLABS:  My country, or maybe I can put it down to both being a female and also in the art sector where.
2022-10-07T21:29:23.301Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:29:25.273Z GalaxydLABS:  People think that your ideas are too crazy.
2022-10-07T21:29:36.587Z GalaxydLABS:  So they don't get an unsupport and invest in in you and one of the struggles I'd love to put out there and people to talk about is.
2022-10-07T21:29:44.488Z GalaxydLABS:  I look at Nfts and I'm trying to set up wallets just to practice and figure this out.
2022-10-07T21:29:47.809Z GalaxydLABS:  It's so difficult so.
2022-10-07T21:29:50.099Z GalaxydLABS:  The art that we're creating.
2022-10-07T21:29:50.213Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:30:05.418Z GalaxydLABS:  How do we actually get it out to mainstream? Not just the people that have already got familiar with cryptocurrency and know about how to integrate wallets and everything else. And yeah, because that's going to be the biggest barrier, I think.
2022-10-07T21:30:12.068Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:30:25.294Z Blue2black:  That's really important. Like I tell this to everybody, you know, you might have an open sea account or you might have foundation, or you might have Twitter or you might have Facebook and stuff like that, but your artwork is not going to get seen by you just using those medias. You literally have to go out.
2022-10-07T21:30:57.58Z Blue2black:  And find ways of connecting with people, making examples of your artwork and literally going out and promoting it. And there is absolutely nothing that you can do about it. Everybody has to do it. And the other problem is, is that you, the project manager, the project creator, or the best person to do that. Because if you trust anybody else to do your marketing for you, you simply won't get the amount of response and amount of.
2022-10-07T21:31:28.603Z Blue2black:  Like good feedback then you being personally involved in doing that. Now I've been listening to people on podcasts and stuff like that, talking about exactly this topic about how what do you do? Do you get to help you with marketing and should you trust this guy and this guy? Essentially she came down to the argument saying that you as the creator, you as the originator of your project or simply the based marketing sales person that.
2022-10-07T21:31:47.8Z Blue2black:  Can be associated with the work because you can make an impact. You can make a change, you can, you know everything about the project, you are the project. And even though it is a very difficult route, essentially you just simply have to do it and.
2022-10-07T21:31:54.027Z Blue2black:  Yeah, become personal person personally involved in every project that you do because.
2022-10-07T21:32:04.485Z Blue2black:  It's up to you if you want it to succeed. It's up to you, I'm sorry to say, but you cannot depend on anybody else but your own kind of.
2022-10-07T21:32:21.467Z Blue2black:  Like understanding and be very careful. You know, you can get investors, you can get funding, you can get all that. That's understandable. That's needed. But you are the master of your project and it is your baby and you have to carry it all the way through.
2022-10-07T21:32:27.216Z Blue2black:  Uh, does that help?
2022-10-07T21:32:42.884Z GalaxydLABS:  Yeah, it's a huge help and it's it's also to say it's sort of an overwhelming idea at the moment for some you know what you need to do, But yeah, willing to take on the challenge and and learn.
2022-10-07T21:32:43.738Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:32:52.112Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:32:53.511Z Blue2black:  Yeah, now they definitely you're in the right space for learning because obviously we've got some of the best people, the knowledgeable people right here in the room we've got.
2022-10-07T21:33:25.796Z Blue2black:  Just a few couple of people here that's that's actually Galaxy. I can tell you the amount of influence that's in this room, you know the amount of technical expertise. We've got Kabir, we've got stream, we've got entrepreneurial, we've got Slava. You know these guys even blame is quite knowledgeable. So essentially you've, you don't know just how much information is at your fingertips right at this moment.
2022-10-07T21:33:40.191Z Blue2black:  If you would beat me any question right now, I bet you I can get an answer for it. So why don't you try? Why don't you ask me your most difficult and most complicated question and I will prove it to you that this room are able to answer that.
2022-10-07T21:33:43.553Z 0xEntrepreneur:  
2022-10-07T21:33:44.679Z 0xEntrepreneur:  You're going by the way, I'm just saying, hey.
2022-10-07T21:33:47.971Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:33:48.086Z Blue2black:  Thanks man needed.
2022-10-07T21:33:57.057Z GalaxydLABS:  Maybe it's just the simplest question. It's just weird. Where do we start when there's so many options?
2022-10-07T21:34:03.627Z GalaxydLABS:  Let how, how? How do I get that story out of emotional?
2022-10-07T21:34:08.354Z GalaxydLABS:  Intelligence and everything else by using NFT.
2022-10-07T21:34:12.561Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:34:14.193Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:34:16.366Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:34:17.414Z Blue2black:  The.
2022-10-07T21:34:20.26Z GalaxydLABS:  And my are we better off to not worry about selling?
2022-10-07T21:34:21.483Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:34:27.403Z GalaxydLABS:  The content and just continue with the story and building, building profile.
2022-10-07T21:34:56.756Z 0xEntrepreneur:  
2022-10-07T21:34:57.825Z 0xEntrepreneur:  Cutting out again.
2022-10-07T21:35:01.672Z DaStreamCatcher:  What's going on me?
2022-10-07T21:35:07.275Z slavakurilyak:  I think blue is cutting out there.
2022-10-07T21:35:09.67Z 0xEntrepreneur:  No, I think he's cutting out and I wrote.
2022-10-07T21:35:11.721Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:35:12.643Z 0xEntrepreneur:  
2022-10-07T21:35:13.502Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:35:14.804Z GalaxydLABS:  Sorry.
2022-10-07T21:35:15.782Z 0xEntrepreneur:  
2022-10-07T21:35:15.011Z slavakurilyak:  Now.
2022-10-07T21:35:17.652Z slavakurilyak:  Analysis rigging a bit.
2022-10-07T21:35:26.467Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:35:25.496Z 0xEntrepreneur:  
2022-10-07T21:35:27.81Z slavakurilyak:  Galaxy, I'll jump in quickly, and I'm sure there's going to be other people who are happy to kind of guide you on your front when you've got. So I do have a question before I answer.
2022-10-07T21:35:33.703Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:34:43.933Z Blue2black:  A Slava, why aren't you on? Why don't you? Actually, you're the best person in technical, but when it comes to emotional intelligence, let's see who we've got that's quite an expert on intelligence.
2022-10-07T21:35:41.58Z Blue2black:  Sorry, so coming back to emotional intelligence. So emotional intelligence is, it's quite a difficult thing to translate in itself.
2022-10-07T21:35:44.849Z Blue2black:  How do you show that somebody?
2022-10-07T21:36:16.032Z Blue2black:  He now doesn't artist convey motion through an artwork. So is an artist in more in tuned with these emotional intelligence than the average person that you can have that debate in itself now about emotional intelligence and conveying that to a crowd. Let's say for instance you know what? You can convey what emotional intelligence is and and you do have the characters to support that. You have the storyline.
2022-10-07T21:36:38.52Z Blue2black:  To support that and you have the energy to support that. Then the next question comes in to be how do you make it reach the public domain? How do you get it to be seen? And in terms of that, let's go to Slava, let's see how Slava is going to approach you coming to him and saying here is your entity. It already explains in a kind of a book style.
2022-10-07T21:36:47.951Z Blue2black:  Characters that conveys the message of emotional intelligence. How do you get that now to the next phase of the marketing?
2022-10-07T21:36:56.979Z Blue2black:  Has scenario and so slova, why didn't you give her a brief strategy? Strategy there please.
2022-10-07T21:37:04.422Z slavakurilyak:  Yeah, I'm happy to take this question and I think that it is a great question. So I appreciate it. I think that.
2022-10-07T21:37:34.862Z slavakurilyak:  From the perspective of when you do have content and you do have an NFT, then question arises kind of what are you aiming to achieve. So if your goal is to generate revenue on that piece of content and then I would strongly suggest that you put a a number to that number to that content that makes sense for you to move forward and that could be any number as long as you are able to move forward when somebody asked you, hey.
2022-10-07T21:38:05.613Z slavakurilyak:  Or am I able to support you or am I able to obtain your content? You can direct people to your ft. I think that is a very sort of monetary side of things. I do think that a lot of creators are in that position now. So if you do need capital, if you are looking to generate capital from your project, I strongly recommend you put a set price on that NFT and then give people the ability to mint it or buy it. However, if your goal is not generate revenue, then I would still use the same technology.
2022-10-07T21:38:35.889Z slavakurilyak:  You would still use the same underlying kind of crypto primitives which are nfts, to Share your story, but you do so with different intention. Your intention could be maybe I'm looking to get the community involved in my project and will award the NFT for their contribution. Maybe it's through participation in consuming your content. You mentioned you're working on the comic, I believe, then maybe it's just as simple as.
2022-10-07T21:38:44.888Z slavakurilyak:  Did somebody engage with my comment that somebody give me feedback? That somebody interact with me as they listen to my my story? That all is.
2022-10-07T21:39:17.165Z slavakurilyak:  Powerful to capture and you can use the same technology, the NFT, to give people a token and that token represents your gratitude. That token represents your appreciation. That token represents that moment in time. It could be as simple as, hey, you participated, here's here's a token for your participation. It could be more complex as hey, you contributed to the storyline of this project, here is a reward for that. So I would say the first step is to evaluate what your goal is, if it's monetary
2022-10-07T21:39:19.543Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:39:21.641Z slavakurilyak:  But do consider using the same technology to accomplish it.
2022-10-07T21:39:25.504Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:39:26.015Z 0xEntrepreneur:  Ohh I wanna mention something really quick.
2022-10-07T21:39:25.603Z GalaxydLABS:  Okay, thank you. That was really awesome.
2022-10-07T21:39:28.323Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:39:28.051Z 0xEntrepreneur:  If that's okay.
2022-10-07T21:39:29.245Z 0xEntrepreneur:  So.
2022-10-07T21:39:31.441Z 0xEntrepreneur:  Um.
2022-10-07T21:39:35.048Z 0xEntrepreneur:  Hopefully I can answer the question.
2022-10-07T21:40:05.64Z 0xEntrepreneur:  Indirect way because it's hard to answer directly. What here's what I'll say really quick and I'm I'm not gonna speak too long. Keep in mind when you're changing or or or entering into a new market, things are generally done differently, right? You can't compare apples to oranges. Now that being said something you'll find is as you have as you build followers on the Internet or really in any market, at the end of the day you're you're probably going to produce what they're looking for. So you're
2022-10-07T21:40:28.737Z 0xEntrepreneur:  That you try to answer in the beginning, you're going to try to go a certain route, you're going to gain a following. And then next thing you know you're going the route that they want to go. So because that's what you would do as a, you know, as a as a creator. Now if you're just trying to be an artist, then you would just do your own thing and that that that's just, you know, hopefully that's not too far off the path of your question, but that's just my thought on that, so.
2022-10-07T21:40:39.83Z GalaxydLABS:  Yeah, but that's awesome. Sale start looking at what we've got because there was a bit of a change this week where.
2022-10-07T21:40:43.79Z GalaxydLABS:  We had we were doing some Community Housing for.
2022-10-07T21:41:01.792Z GalaxydLABS:  Our local E or indigenous people here, the mouldy and it kind of contract that we've been working towards for a couple of years just went sideways this week where that was kind of going to give us some revenue. So we'll just we'll take a look at the rebalances. So you've got to be.
2022-10-07T21:41:04.882Z GalaxydLABS:  You gotta be agile and just move.
2022-10-07T21:41:18.185Z GalaxydLABS:  So I totally support the fact that we just we work in probably both areas of some revenue and some giving to the Community and and being agile enough to make the Community needs.
2022-10-07T21:41:19.226Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:41:23.832Z GalaxydLABS:  And not get frustrated by life changes.
2022-10-07T21:41:26.49Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:41:28.891Z 0xEntrepreneur:  For sure.
2022-10-07T21:41:32.311Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:41:35.105Z GalaxydLABS:  I'm just about to hit into.
2022-10-07T21:41:39.154Z GalaxydLABS:  A meeting with some other people or Etsy brunts here in.
2022-10-07T21:41:41.549Z GalaxydLABS:  Indeed so.
2022-10-07T21:41:43.238Z GalaxydLABS:  I'll.
2022-10-07T21:41:57.933Z GalaxydLABS:  I'll transfer the risk, the recorded system, but thank you very much for your time and I'll join again and get my thoughts around some of the stuff that I'm really struggling with, but I'm really enjoying and thank you for the contribution.
2022-10-07T21:42:00.091Z GalaxydLABS:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T21:42:04.486Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:42:23.48Z Blue2black:  Well, always a pleasure and like I say, you know, if you ever need a question answered to anything like that, do you kind of use the spaces you know, have you ever used the Yahoo answers and these type of things? You know, it's amazing. You can literally ask anything in the world and you will get some of the best professionals coming back to you and helping you and kind of getting an answer to it.
2022-10-07T21:42:27.615Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:42:32.733Z GalaxydLABS:  Yeah, cool. Thank you because I'm always the shy person that doesn't want to speak up. I'd much rather listen to people than talk, so.
2022-10-07T21:42:35.841Z GalaxydLABS:  But there's a place for talking.
2022-10-07T21:42:39.437Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:42:45.938Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:42:50.941Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:43:01.315Z GalaxydLABS:  Come.
2022-10-07T21:43:04.908Z Blue2black:  No, I'm really glad. I'm really glad that you you you spoke today because I see you listening to me so many times and I'm so glad that you actually just came up and introduced yourself and you know just show that you know sometimes everything helps you being your you talking about your project. It's really the best thing you can be doing to get it out there and I now it takes a lot of courage and bravery and confidence sometimes to do these things but you have to you really.
2022-10-07T21:43:26.245Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:43:15.607Z Blue2black:  That's your way of being learning more about marketing and learning more about promotion and these type of things, which saves all of a lot of money, every little bit that you know.
2022-10-07T21:43:24.044Z GalaxydLABS:  Ohh, definitely willing to put in the hard yards and say some. It's been really lovely to actually learn that Twitter's.
2022-10-07T21:43:29.53Z GalaxydLABS:  Different to my perception of what it was, but maybe I never had a purpose for being on Twitter.
2022-10-07T21:43:37.544Z GalaxydLABS:  And so it has been a really lovely discovery to see that there is community and there's people.
2022-10-07T21:43:40.481Z GalaxydLABS:  Sharing ideas, which is actually something that's.
2022-10-07T21:43:45.413Z GalaxydLABS:  A struggle on a day-to-day, especially when you're a creative. So.
2022-10-07T21:43:48.528Z GalaxydLABS:  You. Thank you very much and I'll talk soon.
2022-10-07T21:43:55.431Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:43:58.657Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:44:00.568Z GalaxydLABS:  
2022-10-07T21:44:17.465Z Blue2black:  And it's, and that's and exactly that's how it comes into the title, the Artistic Revolution, you know, there are so many different ways of you now incorporating technology or incorporating you. You know, you know this, these conversations, these spaces, you know, it's not all about technology. It's also about the growth of society. And you know, the Internet have created this international community and it's impossible.
2022-10-07T21:44:46.704Z Blue2black:  To switch it off, you know, we, we are what we are and it's about just how we move forward and we adstream kind of talk about that earlier where he was like just really giving us that brief glimpse into the future of just knowing what really is to come. And you know, our role in all of this because obviously I feel the essential thing now becomes what do you represent and representing emotional intelligence is quite a difficult thing.
2022-10-07T21:44:53.296Z Blue2black:  In general it is a difficult thing, so I wish you all the luck. Best of luck in that.
2022-10-07T21:44:56.506Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:44:58.12Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:45:00.526Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:45:05.313Z Blue2black:  And then it's be. How are you doing? Good to see you here. What you can join us there.
2022-10-07T21:45:13.809Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:45:15.503Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:45:15.419Z musttkalandar:  Hello. Yeah I was trying to get your earlier but I was at work and listening a bit from the train and.
2022-10-07T21:45:18.162Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:45:18.672Z musttkalandar:  Uh I ohh I wanted to.
2022-10-07T21:45:24.202Z musttkalandar:  Ohh, just respond to the person who just left. Um.
2022-10-07T21:45:26.624Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:45:32.399Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:45:32.168Z musttkalandar:  Like, I really feel that marketing is, you know, show like seen as this big thing.
2022-10-07T21:45:34.936Z musttkalandar:  But I feel like somewhere.
2022-10-07T21:45:38.849Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:45:39.061Z musttkalandar:  Like if you see it as.
2022-10-07T21:45:46.84Z musttkalandar:  You know, just a place where you're sharing your world with your community. Like, I really love.
2022-10-07T21:45:58.016Z musttkalandar:  The way Slava has his way of categorising everything, right? And so you know the the other day we were talking to other.
2022-10-07T21:46:07.533Z musttkalandar:  Other women led projects and what we are essentially doing is we're just all trying to like help each other with our IRL skills.
2022-10-07T21:46:11.99Z musttkalandar:  To help each other's projects become stronger.
2022-10-07T21:46:18.658Z musttkalandar:  And like, I think it's just really interesting that there is so much talent in one room.
2022-10-07T21:46:23.513Z musttkalandar:  And I also wanted to kind of ask a question of.
2022-10-07T21:46:54.2Z musttkalandar:  You know stream and anybody else who's more from the, you know, the designing of the technology side is that you know how easy because I feel like marketing, a lot of it is understanding algorithms and playing along with algorithms and so how easy it is, is it for someone from, you know, the technology side to aid you know, small?
2022-10-07T21:47:03.095Z musttkalandar:  Projects in this community or genuine artists in this community and help them with the algorithm part.
2022-10-07T21:47:14.036Z Blue2black:  Well, if it comes symptoms of the Twitter algorithm, then that's a different story to, you know, the, the, the.
2022-10-07T21:47:32.542Z Blue2black:  Instagram or the Facebook or that algorithm, or the algorithm used for curating arts on on these marketplaces, or the algorithm used for, you know, showing you random kind of selection of music on a on a different app or.
2022-10-07T21:47:37.855Z Blue2black:  You know, it becomes quite difficult, so let's see what daddies have to say about that.
2022-10-07T21:48:08.753Z Teddies_app:  Hey, thank you for having me. I can certainly put some input on like algorithms and stuff cause I've had that background on social media. I think if you want to like for for artists that are coming up or somebody was starting a new business or whatever. I think if you can somehow start networking with people, the right people who have the audiences that you're looking for and like if you win people you win the algorithm that's that's just.
2022-10-07T21:48:39.645Z Teddies_app:  That's just right there. You know the answer um and no matter how great your your content is if you cannot like so let's say you're a new person on Twitter or Instagram or whatever platform it is you just by posting your posting stuff on your reels or or or anywhere up there like publicly a lot of times that doesn't really reach a lot of people. A lot of times to to majority of the audiences right there are trying to reach more people so they end up like.
2022-10-07T21:48:42.567Z Teddies_app:  Getting services for followers, etcetera, etcetera.
2022-10-07T21:49:14.559Z Teddies_app:  The best thing you can do is find the other people who have done it in your niche and then start start interacting with with their audience that is most active and build a cult. Um the cult is built by not like what product is on the line. It's built by values. So if you can win people over like there's a book called how to win Friends and Influence people you know if you can, if you can get that running like so regardless of who you are.
2022-10-07T21:49:44.764Z Teddies_app:  What industry you are in, you still have to know how to market yourself. Like that's that's just how life is. You know you have to be able to create demand of yourself and bread some scarcity. So that way like people want to be a part of whatever you're doing and if you provide value to them then no matter what you do, they will always, they will, they will tell the people about your work. So I think it's the reverse cycle. Like don't think of like how do I get a million followers. The million f
2022-10-07T21:49:57.177Z Teddies_app:  You know, so um, think of like how do I get the 1st 100 people once you get the 1st 100 people, which if you if your if your goal is to get 100 people that's like in a month maybe what like.
2022-10-07T21:50:28.589Z Teddies_app:  30 people, uh, 30 people every week. And then you have like some extra time last week as well. So just do the math and then that way you can split it into days and just start interacting with people and growing those relations. If you have genuine 1000 people who can share to their audience, even if they all have 1000 followers now you instantly have a cult of like at least reaching like 10,000 plus followers on a weekly basis on your content because they were shared with everybody they they the
2022-10-07T21:50:58.959Z Teddies_app:  And there you go. Like, then you don't have to worry about how it's gonna grow, because those people are gonna the people they're gonna share it with will also have similar values as you do and as they do so I think that's the best way of doing it on me. Like me personally, I've built 36 million followers on Instagram, and within two years, through meme pages, the value I was providing to people was entertainment. My memes were always like, I would spend hours and hours, like, curating those mem
2022-10-07T21:51:26.44Z Teddies_app:  Thinking very like differently and creatively like how can I make people laugh, you know, how can I entertain people? What's going on in the world? Like I would do my homework before I post something. So yeah, like and keep it simple. That's that's the best thing they can do. Keep it simple, keep it so simple that anybody can understand it. So if more people can understand it, they can remember it. If they can remember it, they can spread it. So I hope that answers your questions.
2022-10-07T21:51:49.138Z Blue2black:  And it's quite a valid question because there's quite a lot of different perspectives we can get on this. So I'm actually going to go to to the whole room and because we already got so many wise people in there, so I don't, I hope you don't mind, but blame. Are you there?
2022-10-07T21:51:58.436Z Blue2black:  Um, I actually think you might have a different perspective on this than most of the other people. So why don't you give me your opinion on it?
2022-10-07T21:52:03.016Z Blue2black:  HP we did just mind rephrasing the question to him there.
2022-10-07T21:52:22.7Z musttkalandar:  I guess the question is how to as a artist or as a project like how to actually understand algorithms to be able to attract the right people.
2022-10-07T21:52:25.156Z musttkalandar:  Who actually need your.
2022-10-07T21:52:31.822Z musttkalandar:  Work on need, need like your values and how to, yeah, find them.
2022-10-07T21:52:35.571Z musttkalandar:  Find the algorithm like how to understand the algorithms?
2022-10-07T21:52:47.213Z 0xEntrepreneur:  Alright.
2022-10-07T21:52:51.74Z 0xEntrepreneur:  Thank you.
2022-10-07T21:52:57.423Z Blue2black:  Well, I just wanted to say there's no, there's no easy way, there's no perfect way, there's no shortcut. If there was, everybody would be using it. The algorithm, its purpose is to confuse stuff. So don't expect you give yourself to get get seen by the algorithm alone. But blame tell us your understanding of that.
2022-10-07T21:52:57.844Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:53:04.443Z BlemMedia:  Yes. Greetings. Greetings everyone and thank you blue to black.
2022-10-07T21:53:14.23Z BlemMedia:  Of course, SB thank you also for the the question and greetings everyone who is listening and Monday speaker.
2022-10-07T21:53:18.045Z BlemMedia:  Final stream catcher recipe yourself.
2022-10-07T21:53:23.751Z BlemMedia:  As it relates to the algorithm, I'm.
2022-10-07T21:53:33.056Z BlemMedia:  Not one that sounds like a question directed to someone who is into se O.
2022-10-07T21:53:42.845Z BlemMedia:  I am not too much focus on chasing the algorithm, so to speak. I'm choosing my words carefully here.
2022-10-07T21:53:46.488Z BlemMedia:  Someone said that.
2022-10-07T21:53:56.433Z BlemMedia:  Art is not defined by talent, but just one expression of their sincere self.
2022-10-07T21:54:15.017Z BlemMedia:  And like I believe that once we express ourselves with sincerity and be consistent with it as such and you know have good structure, be around people of value and.
2022-10-07T21:54:25.726Z BlemMedia:  There's a saying, birds of a feather flock together. Yeah, just I would say I saw see it yourself around people with.
2022-10-07T21:54:38.96Z BlemMedia:  Similar moral compass and similar values and just direction in general, yes, if that answers the question.
2022-10-07T21:54:43.828Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:54:43.162Z BlemMedia:  Go ahead. Please explain.
2022-10-07T21:55:08.952Z musttkalandar:  Okay. So yeah, I guess let me clarify the context. So I brought this up in context of the project from New Zealand. They just left and like, let's put ourselves in the position of a really small and beautiful project like that, talking about emotional intelligence, right, because you don't want.
2022-10-07T21:55:10.849Z musttkalandar:  Actually.
2022-10-07T21:55:20.514Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:55:35.567Z musttkalandar:  For a lot of people who are putting their soul out there and are really expected to participate in this marketing quote and quote game, right? To be able to be seen, to be able to attract your, uh, your genuine community, your audience, your buyers, and, you know, possibly a little bit of an outer circle of people who are watching you because.
2022-10-07T21:55:43.503Z musttkalandar:  That is also like a very large part of participating in like a place like the Internet, right? So.
2022-10-07T21:56:00.13Z musttkalandar:  I feel like these algorithms and all of these structures that are made in technology to use people like us to make content for them for free and like and there are all of these algorithms that are working in the benefit of.
2022-10-07T21:56:18.179Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:56:31.437Z musttkalandar:  The apps who don't actually like, maybe they were created because they cared about creators, but now it's gone beyond. So how can one participate with that very algorithm to help like, you know, small projects where people really don't necessarily either have the time or the bandwidth to build a community and, you know, be able to collaborate in some way with the technology?
2022-10-07T21:57:01.52Z musttkalandar:  To make it work for us. Because ultimately, the most beautiful thing about Web 3 is that there are artists here, as well as there are people in marketing such as you and Slava, who are, you know, got all this knowledge, and then also creators. And then people like stream and, you know, spaghetti and all of you guys who know the algorithm part of it. I guess maybe it's like I don't know what word to use for what I'm imagining.
2022-10-07T21:57:03.984Z musttkalandar:  But that was the context of my question.
2022-10-07T21:57:34.59Z Blue2black:  Well, I have to kind of soothe your gone your conscience there because the fact is that we can answer that question right here in this room and I it's important. The main thing is I'm just going to give you different perspectives of it. So now Slava, you've learnt a lot about deep learning and these type of things. So I obviously know that you will have a quite different answer to it than, than, than than somebody, somebody else. So give us your insight.
2022-10-07T21:57:35.793Z Blue2black:  From that place.
2022-10-07T21:57:40.255Z slavakurilyak:  Yeah, I'm happy to talk about the algorithm and.
2022-10-07T21:57:50.553Z slavakurilyak:  Keep in mind that the social media companies that want people to use their platform, it's against their interest to.
2022-10-07T21:57:55.147Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T21:58:21.225Z slavakurilyak:  Fully kind of layout the rule book for the algorithm because that essentially creates the opportunity for all content creators to gamify their platform or rather their usage. So the platforms themselves like Twitter, they're not going to disclose kind of the the three-step process of how you become rich and famous on Twitter. It's against their interests to do so. But they can give guidelines, you know sometimes we hear kind of directly from the team if you kind of pay attention and you jump in 
2022-10-07T21:58:52.01Z slavakurilyak:  Places where there are, for example, Twitter folks who speak you get you get a better understanding of what they value or what they see is important for content creators. But if you're not paying attention to the official platform team, then I would say look at kind of successful accounts in that social media platform. So if you're looking at Twitter, look at successful Twitter accounts, study them, look at what they're doing that you like, and then just do your best to mimic.
2022-10-07T21:59:21.699Z slavakurilyak:  But at the same time, you know, you talk about marketing and it is very important and you already understand that if you're using that platform like for example Twitter, you're creating content for the platform and they have essentially the, they're monetising on your creation. And and yet the kind of the simple rule of thumb when it comes to essentially being part of the platform, at least from my perspective is to share your work. So if there's any mental.
2022-10-07T21:59:37.398Z slavakurilyak:  Good luck that you have about you know what for example Twitter strategy should I use or what Instagram strategy works best. You know you can simplify that to say am I sharing my work because once you've answered that question.
2022-10-07T22:00:09.056Z slavakurilyak:  You've also studied or listened to folks in this space who have done something that you like. That's where you combine the best of both worlds. You're able to create, continue creating. That is how you share your creative process, and then you're able to apply practices that you see to your account. Now, if I'm giving examples of Twitter, because we're on Twitter now, but I'll share a few best practices that I see on Twitter that applies for both content creators and even larger brands.
2022-10-07T22:00:38.951Z slavakurilyak:  One of these practices is what is known as a Twitter thread or tweet storm or there's lots of names that go by this but essentially it's where you posting multiple pieces of content whereby each content is tied to the previous and you're creating a chain or storm. This is one of the current best practices and gets a lot of people engaged with the post. Mind you there are many other best practices but I'm just sharing you with you one. So if you if you pay attention to what Twitter says for examp
2022-10-07T22:00:43.235Z slavakurilyak:  Successful accounts, then you will start to see these patterns emerge.
2022-10-07T22:00:56.391Z Blue2black:  Interesting to mention the the reason why I started using the thread for Bluetooth Black, while specifically because I'm I realised that.
2022-10-07T22:01:14.372Z Blue2black:  The the threat is really used by the NFD community and they are basically saying like go well at your NFD to this and then you know what basically happens is then that single tweet.
2022-10-07T22:01:24.511Z Blue2black:  Gets a lot more engagement than what you normally would have gotten. So it's all about engagement like this post that I've.
2022-10-07T22:01:42.086Z Blue2black:  Added update. This tweet had over 1000 engagements, so to me that's good because essentially it shows that people are actually engaging with the content and getting people to engage with the content is very difficult and sometimes.
2022-10-07T22:01:49.051Z Blue2black:  You have to kind of try and bend the rules a bit in order to get people to engage and.
2022-10-07T22:02:20.392Z Blue2black:  Uh, Twitter wants you to ring once engagement. It sees engagement as a kind of high up on its value system. So provoking engagement is really important, provoking people to basically interact with the tweet and, for instance, comment on it, say left or right or yes, it's brilliant. Now it's not. Thank you so much, pink, whatever, you know, but have a engagement.
2022-10-07T22:02:41.672Z Blue2black:  And kind of proved that it is that you are using it for like what it's meant to be used because essentially it is a communication platform, you know? So remember that about it and when you are on another platform like social media platform then remember what its main purpose is.
2022-10-07T22:02:58.273Z Blue2black:  And really incorporate your marketing strategy where it based, it based suits it, you know? So if you're on Twitter, then really focus on networking because this is really what Twitter can do for you besides networking.
2022-10-07T22:02:59.264Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T22:03:31.603Z Blue2black:  It's it's Skype. It's really what you make it, but it's scopes are quite limited. But in terms of networking, it's brilliant. It can connect you to the world. It can do that and call candidates. So it you have to ask yourself, how do you make this a global product, because essentially this is what everything on Twitter will then be. It will be a global product. So think about it that way. But do become involved. Remember, engagement is now high on the list of priorities.
2022-10-07T22:03:45.091Z Blue2black:  Or for Twitter. But essentially collaborating is also another way of really kind of hitting in terms of understanding how to do.
2022-10-07T22:03:55.329Z Blue2black:  On the right way, get somebody else's followers. You see if you if you go to somebody else's followers and you just follow all of these followers, then Twitter is gonna realise.
2022-10-07T22:04:13.88Z Blue2black:  And he's gonna tell you, I know you can't do that. And then he's gonna shut you down because that's stealing us somebody else's followers. So you're not actually allowed to do that. You have to get your own. But if you collaborate with that artist and you and that artist on about showing your work on that.
2022-10-07T22:04:45.701Z Blue2black:  On that person's timeline then he is. You're giving getting honestly you're getting that person's followers instead of kind of stealing it. And then there's a lot of rules to kind of follow. If you're using hashtags, try and kind of not flood it because if you throw more than three links at the algorithm, it slows it down and it deep and it prioritises it less. So then actually you do slow down your art being seen and in this competition.
2022-10-07T22:05:09.403Z Blue2black:  Of everybody wanting to show they are, nobody's really looking at art. So everybody's showing and everybody's not wanting to see. So it's really difficult. That's why your own audience is really the only one that is specifically catered for you and that is the best for you and you have to grow that organically and wisely.
2022-10-07T22:05:39.123Z Blue2black:  If you think that any random person will suit with your project, you're wrong. There is a very small percentage of people that are actually completely dedicated to what you are doing, and random people doesn't cut the bull. If you have, you have to be specific, like for instance I focus on only our artist as followers or as people that I follow. I tend to not follow somebody, just.
2022-10-07T22:06:03.79Z Blue2black:  For the fact that I know that I'm dealing with art and somebody in sports is not gonna pay notice to me because I'm Artie sports, so he might like a picture or two here and there, but in general he won't be interested in what I have to say. So cater your audience, make sure that you kind of have a hand in who you speak to and who you want to speak with and.
2022-10-07T22:06:08.86Z Blue2black:  Other ways to actually be involved and.
2022-10-07T22:06:23.561Z Blue2black:  Find a role for yourself that if you want to be a valued contact then deliver a valued service. You know if you want to have a good project if you want to have a good image.
2022-10-07T22:06:54.543Z Blue2black:  Then do something to kind of show that you are you know, be that person, be that link. You know like Slava, you're everybody already knows Slovo can do this and this and this because he talks about himself. He introduces himself and we all know stream is massively great at animation and a IR and these type of things. Why? Because he promotes himself, as does he. He, he spilled that audience. He's got the following you know he understands that these people.
2022-10-07T22:07:24.624Z Blue2black:  Writers for this type and that and that type. So you really have to know your crowd and you have to build your crowd and you have to be fair in it. And you have to grow. You have to accept growing slow. I thought I grew quite fast and I still grew at about 1000 a year, which which sounds quite slow, but actually it isn't. It it's actually quite fast. And if you can just do that, then by all means do it that way. But don't be scared of slow growth because.
2022-10-07T22:07:40.291Z Blue2black:  The Japanese have this saying that you know if it grows fast it can be blown over, but if it grows slow and steady then no wind can blow it over. So do go for that slow growth because that slow growth will mean you that tree that can't be blown over by the wind so.
2022-10-07T22:07:44.112Z Blue2black:  Don't be worried about marketing and what it means to market.
2022-10-07T22:07:45.283Z Blue2black:  Just.
2022-10-07T22:07:56.129Z Blue2black:  Each project just be being that alone is marketing association and you do get people interested and then just show that.
2022-10-07T22:08:06.084Z Blue2black:  You know you're a worthy contract and that you are worth knowing and that you can deliver and you can continuously deliver and that's the difficult part, continuously delivering.
2022-10-07T22:08:14.579Z Blue2black:  So you have to be passionate, you have to take in every little bit of passion of yours and kind of put it into your projects because it's needed.
2022-10-07T22:08:43.201Z Blue2black:  I I have a little bit of a background in terms of digital marketing and I only apply to blue to black. I have had companies kind of come to me and wanting me to do digital marketing for them, but I'm not interested. Why because they want quick results and they want they want everything to be like a magical recipe. And I'm just not for that. I know that it takes time. I know that it takes a lot of data and I know that it takes.
2022-10-07T22:08:44.635Z Blue2black:  A lot of passion.
2022-10-07T22:09:04.454Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-07T22:09:14.282Z Blue2black:  And doing that for somebody else's companies, just not always nice, you know, then you get the strain and you know the the stress of having to perform for somebody else's product that you don't necessarily believe in. But if you believe in your project and if you really are passionate about it, then there should be no excuse for you not to talk about it because that is word of mouth and that still stays the best form of marketing in the world.
2022-10-07T22:09:54.21Z Blue2black:  Hi, Kabir, how you doing man? I think, I think I think you you've been going through a lot of this type of things and you're really knowledgeable, you've got your own businesses, you're top notch, you're into international company and you've got a lot to offer in terms of marketing and you have a big understanding of all that. Now SP was talking about a small project and getting it off the ground to now do you get it seen, how do you beat the algorithm and all these type of things. But do kind o
2022-10-07T22:09:58.83Z kabirevoknow:  Hey blue, how are you?
2022-10-07T22:10:03.238Z kabirevoknow:  Can you hear me?
2022-10-07T22:10:10.503Z Blue2black:  I can hear you, but I'm all I'm. I'm always, you know. You know, I'm humbled when you come to the spaceman. I really am. I really AM.
2022-10-07T22:10:10.073Z kabirevoknow:  I don't know.
2022-10-07T22:10:41.782Z kabirevoknow:  Too kind, too kind. Now I I think a lot of projects that who are individuals or at the most very small team are trying to compete with the success of the mega projects with huge team. And if you look at Michael Jordan all the time and compare yourself to Michael Jordan, you're always going to be beat. So, but you know like I have a small company, I have a small company for 20 years, nobody knows.
2022-10-07T22:10:44.636Z kabirevoknow:  About the and nobody knows the name except for stream.
2022-10-07T22:11:15.516Z kabirevoknow:  You know, I bet nobody here knows the name because it doesn't need to be. But I'm comfortable. I have a dozen people that works for me at the top notch. They're hidden gems and it's a beautiful thing. So you don't have to be the top notch of everything you can be. You know, you can have your niche carved and have a beautiful life, beautiful existence and aim for that. And so most people are looking at yoga labs and all the other things. And then.
2022-10-07T22:11:46.632Z kabirevoknow:  I can't do that. You do you and build your tribe and and I see that happening for some people and not everyone. So to do that you need tools and you need business mindset. That's exactly what stream and I agree on all the time. Folks that don't have business mindset are going to fail miserably. And this happens in small business. 90% of the time. Restaurant owners do not know how to run a business. Therefore most restaurants fail if they just went to a school.
2022-10-07T22:12:16.874Z kabirevoknow:  If there was a school to teach you the basics of business, they would they would succeed. How does a guy from Bangladesh come to America and learn the American way and actually have a company that's 20 years old and works with enterprise into different continent. How does this happen? Is it because of super talent? No, I'm not. If I were, if I had that kind of talent like the kind of talent that Amazon's and you Google look for the top tier the the the developers that make 4.
2022-10-07T22:12:17.788Z kabirevoknow:  Alien base.
2022-10-07T22:12:48.234Z kabirevoknow:  I'm not that kind of talent, but I don't. I don't. I don't even care about that. You know, what I care about is what my nation, what my what my existence means to me and my people, my people that I serve and people that want to work with me. So people need to find in small niche and they carve out their own little world and it's a beautiful existence. So I hope that people look at that way that I don't need to be the top dog. I need to be and, you know, tools, you.
2022-10-07T22:12:59.73Z 0xEntrepreneur:  
2022-10-07T22:13:01.025Z 0xEntrepreneur:  
2022-10-07T22:13:18.494Z kabirevoknow:  Have to have tools. It's all about tools. The more tools you can and you also need to have the knack for finding the best tools. If you can find the right tools, you can go far. I'll give you one example and if anybody here has an FTT project, and I know some of you know, I know we will have it. If you have not done this, you would not pass my test. Here's what I will tell you. If you don't have 100 e-mail addresses in your list somewhere for your for your project, you have.
2022-10-07T22:13:45.299Z kabirevoknow:  Not done. The first thing about your business 100 e-mail address. You prove it to me that you have 100 e-mail address, then you go for 1000 e-mail address, then you go for 10,000. Once you have reached 10,000 e-mail address in your in your list. This is what the bigger projects do. They tell you to go do this, do this, do this, go to our discord, go to our this, go to our this. That's what they're doing. They're making you do it. You do that. You make a 100% list on Twitter.
2022-10-07T22:14:07.156Z kabirevoknow:  And you know, I made challenges to people in my in my tutor space that, hey, if you can get 100 people in your list in a month, I give you an FT that I bought, not something else gifted to me. I give you an FT that I bought, bought with money. Nobody was able to do that, including myself. I only have 52 people in my list.
2022-10-07T22:14:38.316Z kabirevoknow:  You know I'm not trying hard for it but you need to show me that you can get 100 people to give you their e-mail and e-mail is the cheapest thing there should be able to give you e-mail is Diamond does and everybody has three. So this is how I this is the tool. e-mail is a tool. I'm giving an example. Now e-mail. Do you really need e-mail? Now you e-mail, get their phone number that's wonderful. But so that's an example of how to think if you think like I'm going to get 100 e-mail address, 500 e
2022-10-07T22:15:09.271Z kabirevoknow:  All addresses I can reach them from other other means. So creating that mindset of tool based you know building building your company or business, it'll be long lasting. I mean my company's 20 years old. I wish I could write a book about how I manage it and but nobody's going to read it because you know I'm too small but if I were you know a bigger company yeah everybody would want to buy my book but the but every business owner that has succeeded after 340 years they can tell you the story.
2022-10-07T22:15:39.514Z kabirevoknow:  Of success. And listen to those. Find those people. They're they're right here in the tutor space. Stream is one of them. His stream is one of them. That's why I go where stream is at and blue is one of them. Blue is the person that I'm you know, you need to find the right people, guys. These people have knowledge, information, they're tidbits are worth more than you know a class or a course somewhere. So I really hope that people think that way. It's just a mindset once you think like that.
2022-10-07T22:16:07.644Z kabirevoknow:  You're gonna flip. Everything is going to come together and only way you're going to do this in you know when you are hanging out with the right people. I spend at least an hour on a daily basis on Twitter spaces either listening or talking like this and just because finding people is the way to go and I'm everyday I'm finding new people. Not everyone is a you know is going to be in my circle. I recently cleaned up my tutor. I only followed, I only follow 72 people.
2022-10-07T22:16:10.701Z DaStreamCatcher:  Damn.
2022-10-07T22:16:10.903Z kabirevoknow:  Because nobody else is worth my time.
2022-10-07T22:16:42.867Z kabirevoknow:  Yeah. And every and you guys are here. I mean, and blue is there, you know, Solva is there, blame is there because value is there. So follow the people who matters to you and they can follow. Many people can follow you, but follow the people that matters to you because you really want to focus. So that's how I see it. The mindset game is the biggest game and I have played that game successfully in my book and I cannot wait to help people with tools that they need. And NFT artists have the same p
2022-10-07T22:17:12.415Z kabirevoknow:  That the web three you know the the the producers in Hollywood has so many producers want to branch out so many producers. I tried that long long time before and before Netflix was famous. I built a tool called Vwala, which was basically a Netflix for Web 3, not web three web series. And I reached out to production companies. I reached out to you know, producers and I learned that they have no business.
2022-10-07T22:17:13.583Z kabirevoknow:  Kind of.
2022-10-07T22:17:44.558Z kabirevoknow:  Mindset. They would rather put it on a YouTube and give it away and they're thinking that YouTube algorithm is going to give them something. It takes so much effort to get YouTube to give you anything. And so YouTube did not deliver. But obviously later Netflix kind of made that possible for many many producers to produce series and things and great for them because Netflix is much bigger, bigger deal. But it's just a mindset game. So I hope you know if you're looking for tools and technique and
2022-10-07T22:17:57.63Z kabirevoknow:  These are the spaces, these are the spaces follow. Follow the folks that are talking in these spaces and they they will bring the value and you can ask questions. So I hope I answered it a little bit but I know I didn't answer it all the way.
2022-10-07T22:18:14.42Z Blue2black:  Now you want brought in uh the the point of talking about affiliate marketing and these type of things. Now that can be like a bit of a shortcut in terms of giving you exposure but.
2022-10-07T22:18:20.377Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-07T22:18:23.303Z Blue2black:  Does it work and does it actually produce the right results? Does it give you the right type of audience or target mode?
2022-10-07T22:18:52.955Z kabirevoknow:  1000 * 1000 times everyday billions of dollars are being transacted because of affiliate marketing. Social selling is the primary tool that enterprise is trying to acquire. I work with Mega Megamart in at least half a billion dollar revenue companies, half a billion worldwide, and these companies their focus is not to sell it through the traditional system. They're trying to figure out how to market through social selling if they can convince social sellers it sells so well.
2022-10-07T22:19:19.467Z kabirevoknow:  Because the word of mouth, because let me tell you an example. I have a very big jewelry company, a world famous jewelry company. I cannot name them because you know, I'm not allowed to talk about customer names. This company sells jewellery in three different continents in stores, in actual physical stores. And this company and I asked them once that you know through through various means. I mean I asked them why do you go after middle-aged women?
2022-10-07T22:19:49.893Z kabirevoknow:  Instead of younger, younger audience which which are much hipster, much more in Instagram Ish and all this, they're like the parts belongs to the middle class women, middle-aged women and these jewellery is expensive so that this is a so the product has to fit the customer. So they're they're already know their customers, they know that this jewellery will not sell to the younger audience. These jewelry sells to the middle class middle-aged women and then you know the COVID hit and we thought th
2022-10-07T22:20:20.438Z kabirevoknow:  Their sales went through the roof and including right now their sales went through the roof. The reason it is all the zoom calls, what do you see some what, what, what part of the body do you see when you are on a zoom call in a business or other other reasons. You see the you know the part where you would see a necklace, you would see a earring, you would see, you know these are the jewelries that you're going to see and people love to buy those jewelries. And so they they have understood the c
2022-10-07T22:20:46.518Z kabirevoknow:  People walking into the store, they they use social media very intelligently and they use affiliate marketing very intelligently. So they give influencers the affiliate marketing links and influencers simply, you know, send the traffic and then the convert. And this is real. This is why I want to bring this to NFT because what does you know? What does nft artist do? They come and shield their projects, you know, everyday maybe a couple of hours.
2022-10-07T22:21:18.823Z kabirevoknow:  And they're gone. They have to go to work, do something else. But if they had super friends that are going to get 10% of those sales and they would talk about it, I think, I think people are going to want to want to go and sign up for that affiliate relationship. The problem with the Web 3 right now is that the marketplaces don't support affiliate links, but that's going to change. I can tell you, 3-4 marketplaces are talking to me. One is the cardano's marketplace and I'm trying to reach out to
2022-10-07T22:21:41.593Z kabirevoknow:  Up and see would work because up and see would actually just close the deal. But the JPEG store, there are other Algerian marketplace. These folks are much more approachable. They're talking. They're not signing up with the idea, but they're talking. They're wanting to listen once they convert their systems to accept affiliate link and allow people to do that.
2022-10-07T22:21:45.304Z kabirevoknow:  You can then sign up hundreds of people for your project.
2022-10-07T22:22:16.523Z kabirevoknow:  For for a percentage and said do your thing. Do social marketing, go talk about my project, share the link, make the money. People would people would have interest in doing that. Now would I do that and would I? The projects I support I I support them for the good cause. I support Kaden and Nico. Has nothing to do with money, has to do with the the cause has to do with you know how I feel about it. But those projects I would support anyway. But there are projects that would benefit from affiliat
2022-10-07T22:22:44.703Z kabirevoknow:  Billy friend from people talking about is sharing their links on websites. Click here, go buy an opacity, close the close the sale, get tracked and this is proven technology. This is not invention. This is like stream Sade Web three is missing a lot of existing infrastructure, existing things. So there is nothing new. It's almost going backwards somewhere sometimes. So you know because there's lots of tool missing. Why would affiliate marketing not be part of a sales sales process?
2022-10-07T22:22:58.389Z kabirevoknow:  Anybody who does large scale sale would understand that this is a big tool we should not be missing. And it is completely missing. And the big market open see does not even respond to it. There's just.
2022-10-07T22:23:22.736Z kabirevoknow:  Not interested. So that is that is that is a shame but maybe there maybe when they see the other markers do it people flock to the other markers because they're they're getting traction because hundred people are selling for them. Maybe that's when they would notice. This is sometimes it happens. I mean I classify open C as the Walmart of Web three is the worst place to hang your product but you know Walmart is big and Walmart sells.
2022-10-07T22:23:26.482Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-07T22:23:28.587Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-07T22:23:29.521Z Blue2black:  Well, that's a lot of insight, I have to admit. And stream, are you still there?
2022-10-07T22:23:34.298Z DaStreamCatcher:  Yes, I am.
2022-10-07T22:23:36.572Z DaStreamCatcher:  
2022-10-07T22:23:45.407Z Blue2black:  So Gabriel, you talked about affiliate marketing. I I wanted to go on about that in a moment, but before I do stream.
2022-10-07T22:23:50.207Z Blue2black:  You have, you have lots of years of experience in terms of.
2022-10-07T22:24:17.239Z Blue2black:  You know, building a network, getting an audience, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've got the T-shirt done that. You know all that. I don't know you know, but what type of advice would you have in terms of marketing? I know marketing sounds like this big spiel of, you know, doing this and wearing a suit and all that lot, but it isn't really kind of give us your insight on marketing and digital marketing.
2022-10-07T22:24:49.965Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, I mean there's there's ways to gain certain algorithms and get a little advantage here, there, run hashtags, reduce different things. But the bottom line is, is that if you try to game the analytics of any given system, Twitter, Google, whatever, I mean, that's their, that's their secret sauce, that's the 13 secret spices at KFC. They're not going to give that away. One. And two, you have to realise that none of this information is truly real. The analytics and the statistics you get now, 
2022-10-07T22:25:20.371Z DaStreamCatcher:  Have a vested interest in controlling the network and controlling the numbers that come out of it and whacking these people and they feel like it. And you know, it's if the system is not fair. So because the system is not fair, you cannot accurately gauge it or game it unless you want to go to the dark side. And if people talk about, you know, Black Hat stuff, that's a different thing. If you're talking about marketing and you're talking about going at it. I look at it just from a general direct
2022-10-07T22:25:50.608Z DaStreamCatcher:  You blast the neighborhood with 50,000, you know, mailing say 100,000 for math purposes. And you know, you're blasting a pizza, you know, coupon or something like that. A 1% response is great, 3% you're a Rockstar with those things. So that kind of response rate is what you typically need to expect with pretty much anything you do. So what do you do with that? Well, it's either money or time or both, because most people have more time than they have money.
2022-10-07T22:26:07.357Z DaStreamCatcher:  And those who have more money than they have time are able to throw money at problems and hire people to create solutions for other problems. But if you just have more time than money, then you're going to have to slog it out and do it yourself. And you'll have the patient have to have the patience to realise that your three month project is actually going to take three to five years.
2022-10-07T22:26:10.891Z DaStreamCatcher:  
2022-10-07T22:26:36.091Z Blue2black:  You know, the biggest problem in all this is actually having a strategy. And yeah, a strategy is in the end of the day, the most difficult thing to obtain. You can either obtain that through years of experience, or you can read books and kind of listen to speeches and all that lot in order to get a strategy. But inevitably you're going to work out a strategy that works for yourself and.
2022-10-07T22:26:39.207Z Blue2black:  You have to have a person.
2022-10-07T22:26:42.378Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T22:26:47.102Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T22:26:54.81Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T22:26:58.876Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T22:27:05.602Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T22:27:06.653Z DaStreamCatcher:  Well, you have to have a purpose blue, blue, you have to have a you have to have purpose. It's like maybe even if your purpose is to entertain. OK, how are you gonna entertain? I always use Tolkien cause he's a perfect example. JRR Tolkien sat down and didn't write a word of his books until he spent about two years. I think it was just sitting down and making maps and writing out all of the different races names and their traits and their weapons and made-up his own Elvish language and did all t
2022-10-07T22:27:09.474Z DaStreamCatcher:  Into a world, one human being in his mind.
2022-10-07T22:27:13.792Z DaStreamCatcher:  Made this thing, put it on paper, just designed it.
2022-10-07T22:27:16.573Z DaStreamCatcher:  And then he was able to write the book.
2022-10-07T22:27:28.811Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T22:27:34.118Z DaStreamCatcher:  What are you building? What? What's your purpose? If your purpose is to entertain, what are you entertaining with? If your purpose is to build a community, what's the Community's purpose? What is? What is the reason for it to exist? You have to have purpose. No matter what you do, it has to have purpose, because if it doesn't really have purpose.
2022-10-07T22:27:39.192Z DaStreamCatcher:  And then you're just pulling yourself and you're not gonna be really fooling anybody else long term.
2022-10-07T22:28:06.187Z Blue2black:  And this and This is why coming back to what I was saying earlier where if you want to, you know, you have the ability to know the people you want to know straight forward. That's just anybody, everyone of us here, you have the ability to know the people you want to know, but then what are you offering? You know, so let's say you want to know Kabir, when I stream, what are you bringing to the table? What are you adding to it? Are you adding value to that person?
2022-10-07T22:28:19.464Z Blue2black:  So the question is if you want to have followers, if you want to build an audience, if you want to build a community, then ask yourself that vital question. Are you adding adding value to that?
2022-10-07T22:28:31.549Z Blue2black:  Are you adding value to that community or you adding adding value to that product? Ask yourself that because it is only once you do that where you actually.
2022-10-07T22:28:43.126Z Blue2black:  You can say that that person is really there to support you, where you can really say you are there to support that person. So ask yourself, what role do you play?
2022-10-07T22:29:13.816Z Blue2black:  You know, and what is your purpose? Like stream, you're saying what is, what is the the project's purpose? And you know, once again, like Kabiri saying build your own tribe, you know, it's really important to really define what you want to achieve and have a strategy then towards that, you know, baby steps, it doesn't need to be massive steps. Be realistic. You know, know what you're capable of doing and you know obviously like kabiri saying, you know the projects.
2022-10-07T22:29:33.137Z Blue2black:  There's a lot of funding gets there much faster in a project that's smaller. You know, they have to have a realistic timeline and developing that realistic timeline of your own financial capabilities are quite difficult. But you have to accept it. And yes, you have to do as much as possible of the work.
2022-10-07T22:29:48.978Z Blue2black:  Project related to the team. You shouldn't try and outsource any of that until you kind of have to fight the security that you are getting somewhere and you're going somewhere and you're on the right path and you're reaching your goal. So set goals.
2022-10-07T22:30:12.111Z Blue2black:  Very important. If you don't set goals and you just wander into the darkness, then yes, you are going to fall into a ditch in front of you because you can't see there. It's it's the obstacles are bound to be in your way. Murphy's law, you know. So tackle your projects with with confidence. But no, you have to, you have to suffer before you get anywhere.
2022-10-07T22:30:44.596Z Blue2black:  Do the same with an audience on on Twitter. You literally have to start with one and then you grow up. But don't expect one to turn into two. If if you just follow that guy because you just saw him once and he never even looked at his profile and you expect him to kind of like you for a while now, yeah, he's going to look at you for a while and then he's going to decide, no, you're not an important to me and then he's going to say, yeah, bye bye because you don't play a role in that person. You 
2022-10-07T22:31:14.313Z Blue2black:  And this is exactly what social media is about. It is about engagement. And if you don't play the game, then don't expect any results, you know? So if you want to have a high engagement, then be very engaging, you know, this is exactly how it works. This is exactly what the platform was designed to be. It's designed to to kind of be a social kind of gathering and don't expect much more than that from it. You can't expect that.
2022-10-07T22:31:44.829Z Blue2black:  All of the people you're in the room is now are all collectors and they're gonna listen to your project and you automatically and get sales. No, that's not going away. Be the way it works. It's not, it's not designed as a marketplace, it's designed as a as a social platform. So remember that and kind of cater for that. And This is why it's so important to when you are sharing your work to make a personal connection, because if you don't then don't expect to last long because it is through being 
2022-10-07T22:31:49.488Z Blue2black:  Do being a friend through being valued and through adding to.
2022-10-07T22:31:55.089Z Blue2black:  The product adding value. Remember that try and add value to everything.
2022-10-07T22:32:01.265Z Blue2black:  This is why I can tell you like in terms of my own strategy.
2022-10-07T22:32:32.301Z Blue2black:  I know what I can achieve and or how fast I can get there, but I still have a strategy. Now my strategy is completely different than the rest, but essentially we all have the same goals. We all want to reach some type of something, you know, we want to reach a community, we want to sell a product, we want to sell a service, we want to become more popular or we just want to be socially engaging it. It really doesn't matter.
2022-10-07T22:32:34.177Z Blue2black:  We all have different goals, but.
2022-10-07T22:33:05.234Z Blue2black:  Find a do research about your goal. Do research about other people doing the same thing and kind of learn from them. Look at they look at their work, but actually do the research. Nothing comes for free. You have the chance now of on the spaces being able to ask complicated questions that you weren't able to do before. And that is actually a good thing because you can learn a lot through that and there are so many people are actually just want to ask their opinion about.
2022-10-07T22:33:35.924Z Blue2black:  So doctor Zig zag, I'm gonna come to you now and thank you. Your happiness, you both do different projects, but in terms of your own strategy, what would you say that would be? Would it be to sell a product, solar service? Tell us about that at 1st and let us kind of analyse that and then see how the audience differs. So doctor Zig zag, why don't you start with you and tell us.
2022-10-07T22:33:43.397Z Blue2black:  About what you sell, what you try to sell, and what do you think you what type of strategy you think you need?
2022-10-07T22:33:50.189Z drzigzag009:  Ohh, great question. Wow, very interesting conversation.
2022-10-07T22:33:57.271Z drzigzag009:  Uh, that you have going on? Uh, first, I think you need to present yourself as a business.
2022-10-07T22:34:09.477Z drzigzag009:  And to be trustworthy as a business, whatever you sell via. As a illustrator designer, I had to wear many hats inside my company.
2022-10-07T22:34:12.049Z drzigzag009:  Because.
2022-10-07T22:34:18.023Z drzigzag009:  When you were you, you first had to consolidate your resources and your talent.
2022-10-07T22:34:21.79Z drzigzag009:  To see how do I produce what I do in the.
2022-10-07T22:34:27.883Z drzigzag009:  The most efficient way and the most cost effective way.
2022-10-07T22:34:29.348Z drzigzag009:  So.
2022-10-07T22:34:32.942Z drzigzag009:  Want you to decide what your business is? Go ahead and uh.
2022-10-07T22:34:37.619Z drzigzag009:  Be an expert at doing that. Producing goods.
2022-10-07T22:34:48.33Z drzigzag009:  Making a different type of commodity for someone I I think you need to do that well and gain the respect of your.
2022-10-07T22:34:50.042Z drzigzag009:  Clientele.
2022-10-07T22:34:54.158Z drzigzag009:  So I have to look at it in multiple ways.
2022-10-07T22:34:58.585Z drzigzag009:  Cause I'm trying to reproduce what I'm selling within my mind.
2022-10-07T22:35:07.023Z drzigzag009:  And one of the things about that you need to be able to illustrate that convey those thoughts down the paper of the.
2022-10-07T22:35:15.315Z drzigzag009:  Illustratively and literally, you have to have a a a good vocabulary to describe.
2022-10-07T22:35:21.573Z drzigzag009:  And to distinguish what you want to talk about so the audience can understand either.
2022-10-07T22:35:23.656Z drzigzag009:  Not seeing it.
2022-10-07T22:35:30.491Z drzigzag009:  And have a similar read the description about it and also seeing it when you have a visual aid before you.
2022-10-07T22:35:32.375Z drzigzag009:  So.
2022-10-07T22:35:38.041Z drzigzag009:  I think there's many approaches that you can take to set up your company.
2022-10-07T22:35:42.073Z drzigzag009:  But if you have a commodity or service.
2022-10-07T22:35:44.953Z drzigzag009:  Do it well and.
2022-10-07T22:35:49.519Z drzigzag009:  Put yourself out there and I think they'll come to you.
2022-10-07T22:35:53.699Z drzigzag009:  Or whatever you make, people will buy it and sell.
2022-10-07T22:35:55.314Z drzigzag009:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T22:36:00.062Z drzigzag009:  That takes a lot of thought. Your branding needs to be focused around your product too.
2022-10-07T22:36:10.436Z drzigzag009:  So what have you selling it branded and keep it inside that brand and push that thought and idea. I'm going to land with this and just enjoy the conversation.
2022-10-07T22:36:19.39Z Blue2black:  But then again, tell us about your product, your service. Tell us how do you, how would you define it?
2022-10-07T22:36:24.511Z drzigzag009:  Ohh, you're talking about the Imaginarium.
2022-10-07T22:36:24.238Z drzigzag009:  
2022-10-07T22:36:31.069Z drzigzag009:  I do find that in a unique way because it's my thoughts.
2022-10-07T22:36:34.054Z drzigzag009:  And my creativity will goes in.
2022-10-07T22:36:37.854Z drzigzag009:  Something has to come out so.
2022-10-07T22:36:45.045Z drzigzag009:  Uh, usually two of my career I've either bought 2 certain product.
2022-10-07T22:36:51.168Z drzigzag009:  And I can see the development by having this product. I advanced so much in this direction.
2022-10-07T22:36:56.12Z drzigzag009:  So I'm I'm. I'm making a new product called the Imaginarium.
2022-10-07T22:37:02.944Z drzigzag009:  And this imagineering will allow me to create anything that I can think of in my mind.
2022-10-07T22:37:11.943Z drzigzag009:  And plus it has the capability of a I to allow me to test these physical digital twin of it.
2022-10-07T22:37:18.234Z drzigzag009:  Before I even asked them for investment to make this physical product.
2022-10-07T22:37:19.515Z drzigzag009:  Show.
2022-10-07T22:37:22.771Z drzigzag009:  I think the Imaginarium for me is.
2022-10-07T22:37:30.188Z drzigzag009:  How to envision what you see in a dream and and turn it into reality.
2022-10-07T22:37:34.63Z drzigzag009:  So as an industrial designer, that's what I do.
2022-10-07T22:37:37.1Z drzigzag009:  And that's what I try to focus on.
2022-10-07T22:37:43.647Z drzigzag009:  Ohh, uh and D is coming out with this new chip, the seven.
2022-10-07T22:37:53.549Z drzigzag009:  7950X it's one of the I think it's 16 core 32 threads. I'm hoping to get one of those.
2022-10-07T22:37:59.069Z drzigzag009:  If the price drop when Intel comes out with their new 13 GN.
2022-10-07T22:38:01.536Z drzigzag009:  And uh.
2022-10-07T22:38:10.74Z drzigzag009:  Hello, we're getting the chips the motherboard in the fall, so those haven't come out yet either, but I want a small form factor.
2022-10-07T22:38:12.815Z drzigzag009:  And.
2022-10-07T22:38:16.043Z drzigzag009:  That means it's probably by a.
2022-10-07T22:38:20.717Z drzigzag009:  Almost 8 centimetre by 8 centimetre board squared.
2022-10-07T22:38:28.131Z drzigzag009:  And you got one of the fastest chips that you can buy in the world on the market to put in that computer.
2022-10-07T22:38:30.184Z drzigzag009:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T22:38:38.839Z drzigzag009:  And you have programs like Blender, which is free now. If you're not using blender, you have a disadvantage, you're not helping yourself.
2022-10-07T22:38:44.938Z drzigzag009:  So even if you don't know anything about it, download it and learn it.
2022-10-07T22:38:50.07Z drzigzag009:  And then I'm looking forward to getting into what Nvidia's doing.
2022-10-07T22:38:57.908Z drzigzag009:  With its digital twins, it's in cinema, gaming engine or physics engine.
2022-10-07T22:39:03.939Z drzigzag009:  Dana's look at technology that's out there that I would I'm enjoying.
2022-10-07T22:39:08.824Z drzigzag009:  I'm looking forward to playing with to get some great results.
2022-10-07T22:39:13.148Z drzigzag009:  So I I hope that answers some of the way I'm gonna use.
2022-10-07T22:39:15.856Z drzigzag009:  And how I decide to?
2022-10-07T22:39:17.836Z drzigzag009:  Create what I want to make.
2022-10-07T22:39:33.437Z Blue2black:  Well, thank you for answering that. And This is why I wanna focus on the fact that everybody's project, everybody's service and everybody's strategy is completely different. It is tailor made to you.
2022-10-07T22:39:59.624Z Blue2black:  And only you. So sanctuary of happiness. Welcome to the chat. Sorry I haven't. I've actually been noticing you there for a while and I'm glad that I can finally get to you. So essentially, please just kind of introduce yourself. Then tell us about your product or your service and what strategy you think is essential for you as a brand or a sanctuary of happiness, and how you would approach.
2022-10-07T22:40:03.245Z Blue2black:  Getting your artwork seen or your project scene.
2022-10-07T22:40:09.626Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T22:40:12.781Z Blue2black:  A sanctuary of happiness. Can you hear me?
2022-10-07T22:40:25.533Z Blue2black:  Ohh God, I think he's probably busy with something in a moment. I'll. I'll come back to him in a moment. And now lunula.
2022-10-07T22:40:33.33Z Blue2black:  You've been very quiet you and blamed, so let us kind of get to you two rather than nula.
2022-10-07T22:40:36.199Z LunulaNFTs:  I'm going to.
2022-10-07T22:40:38.199Z LunulaNFTs:  I.
2022-10-07T22:40:42.586Z LunulaNFTs:  
2022-10-07T22:40:51.513Z Blue2black:  You have experience of being an artist, you have an experience of selling your art and getting it out there and you know being on on Twitter and social media and all that lot. Tell us about your product. Tell us what you've got to sell or what you do and.
2022-10-07T22:41:00.4Z Blue2black:  Just Jane, after that, tell us about your strategy so far in what you used in order to get your artworks in.
2022-10-07T22:41:12.564Z LunulaNFTs:  Well, first of all, I've been just listening to you guys and soaking up all this information because I am learning a lot. Like I am not.
2022-10-07T22:41:17.326Z LunulaNFTs:  A professional at this whatsoever. Just a beginner and.
2022-10-07T22:41:48.402Z LunulaNFTs:  Honestly, I feel like I've made all the mistakes. I don't think I'm doing the I don't think I'm doing it the best way. What I should have done is actually been on Twitter and showing my my creative process for from like the last six months, if not more. And like building my audience and going on spaces instead of just making my artworks and dropping them and then going on Twitter the same day and, you know, starting my account like hey.
2022-10-07T22:41:50.428Z LunulaNFTs:  I'm here. Don't do that.
2022-10-07T22:42:03.92Z LunulaNFTs:  Um, so far so yeah. This is 1 advice to anyone here in the audience. You probably already know this, though I feel like I'm such a newbie that I made all the newbie mistakes.
2022-10-07T22:42:07.287Z LunulaNFTs:  I've also just been.
2022-10-07T22:42:17.283Z LunulaNFTs:  For me, going on spaces and talking to people, I feel like most of my audience came that way.
2022-10-07T22:42:34.232Z LunulaNFTs:  I mean, I've been on Twitter since August, so about two months, and I feel like I'm doing pretty well, but I haven't made any sales, right? And I'm just taking one day at a time. I've also been posting on Reddit.
2022-10-07T22:43:04.429Z LunulaNFTs:  This kind of diversifying my audience, I should be on other social medias, I feel like. But what somebody else has said before that to find the people, let's say on Twitter, the artists who have similar kind of art or that kind of theme and find the ones who are doing really, really well and study them right and interact with them and kind of.
2022-10-07T22:43:05.327Z LunulaNFTs:  
2022-10-07T22:43:12.074Z LunulaNFTs:  He known to their audience by interacting with them. I feel like that's a good strategy.
2022-10-07T22:43:19.421Z LunulaNFTs:  But that's all I can say, because I'm new and I'm I have so much to learn.
2022-10-07T22:43:30.633Z Blue2black:  But then again you say that even though you've been on this basis, even though you shared your work on Twitter and all these type of things that you are doing, that is correct, you still haven't had sales.
2022-10-07T22:43:33.522Z Blue2black:  That is to me showing that.
2022-10-07T22:43:50.081Z Blue2black:  We need to tweak this performance a little bit and we need to do something in order to make sure that you get results because doing all this spending all the data going on spaces and all these type of things if it doesn't bring results.
2022-10-07T22:44:06.693Z Blue2black:  And either it is up to the method or it's up to the strategy, you know, and that that means that the strategy have to be reinvented and the strategy have to be reanalysed and.
2022-10-07T22:44:08.112Z Blue2black:  Kabir.
2022-10-07T22:44:12.736Z Blue2black:  Do you think you would be the best person to actually continue on this?
2022-10-07T22:44:20.877Z Blue2black:  In terms of changing your strategy, what would you what would you recommend for lunula?
2022-10-07T22:44:34.121Z kabirevoknow:  It's pretty hard. I was just looking up her artwork. I really like it. You only have a few pieces, right? You only have like four or five pieces.
2022-10-07T22:44:36.05Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T22:45:06.002Z kabirevoknow:  Yeah, very beautiful art. I liked it. I I think it's it's it's beautiful work. So you said you are going going to multiple different potentially multiple different social media and so I think that's is that something you know that's going to be feasible for you to do or do you want to focus on building a strong an audience in a single platform first?
2022-10-07T22:45:17.578Z kabirevoknow:  Because you know there there's so many different things you have to do for each media and that's what I would say. You know, I would question the diversification. What I would say is that within the.
2022-10-07T22:45:48.626Z kabirevoknow:  Within the you know the the single single space like you are right now in an FT and you're you you have it on opens up and see. But what if you hang out with in the Twitter spaces for NFT you probably would know that there are other marketplaces that are really encouraging you know new new artists and they are promoting it. So there are many of them. Like for example Cardano has one called JPEG store and they're so within two space NFT space if you if you.
2022-10-07T22:46:19.675Z kabirevoknow:  If you were to, you know, mingle with people that are talking about this, I would say, you know, I would do what I would do if I were you. I would find those other marketplaces such as JPEG stores such as voice.com, such as, you know, these other, and then put them up there, make some of them available there or, you know, talk to them and see how their onboarding new artists, and sometimes they're very, very good at helping new artists and, you know, folks and some people have taken advantage of
2022-10-07T22:46:50.087Z kabirevoknow:  Really good results. So instead of going opening a YouTube account or a tik T.O.K or, you know, all kinds of other social media, I would, I would say Twitter space would provide so much insight into Web 3 platforms that you could probably find quite few marketplaces that you know that would benefit you. But I do know that you have only four or five pieces of art, and they're probably one-on-one, so that poses another problem.
2022-10-07T22:47:03.466Z kabirevoknow:  Which is, you know, can you make the same art available in two different platforms and is that fair to the collector and all these things, so all these things need to be sorted out, you know, I'm assuming these are one one on ones, right?
2022-10-07T22:47:15.029Z kabirevoknow:  Hmm.
2022-10-07T22:47:16.057Z LunulaNFTs:  Yeah these are one on ones. I do have other artworks that I haven't released that could be a additions like 10 out of 10, something like that.
2022-10-07T22:47:46.215Z kabirevoknow:  Hmm. So, and I would say that if you, you know, if you if you look at look at NFT spaces onto their spaces there are at least a dozen at any given time. And not for shilling, just for learning and seeing what people are talking about marketplaces, choose instead of doing 5 different social media or two three different social media, find two different three different marketplaces and JPEG store. Riley. I would highly recommend JPEG store which is on Cardano.
2022-10-07T22:48:17.307Z kabirevoknow:  And and the folks that are very very nice and then you know you have algorithm they have they have great space in these these other other marketplaces are looking to grab the market share of open C and so they are very interested in helping promoting and elevating artists. Take advantage of that. See if you can qualify for that. Make a story, tell them, pitch them as I would pitch the marketplaces the story. I am doing exactly that thing from a different reason.
2022-10-07T22:48:48.595Z kabirevoknow:  I'm not doing this for an artist as an artist. I'm doing this as a platform. I'm saying I want to help this NFC artist and folks and they need affiliate marketing. Will you enable this on your platform with with this minor update? And they're like, hmm, interesting. So at least getting to getting their attention. So I think there are more receptive and they're more interesting. So that's the strategy I would use that can I get highlighted in voice.com or or JPEG store or or algerian's marketplac
2022-10-07T22:49:18.747Z kabirevoknow:  Be wow factors. And I would say you know, I'm not a I'm just a engineer so I don't. But I looked at your art. I really liked it and I really liked you though, you know, definitely collectible art. So so you should try not up and see. You know often sees my opinion on the Walmart. You know you're putting your best product in Walmart. Who does that you know even even a brand does not give Nordstrom their best quality or clothing. They keep it to themselves.
2022-10-07T22:49:50.243Z kabirevoknow:  So of course you don't have a mean side and all this crazy complexities I would go for more more you know the platforms that are catering to that the new kind of catering to the higher higher level artwork and I think that's my strategy that I would use to find my but I would create a pitch track I would create a story I would tell them I would not just go and say hi can I get I get in onto you. You just have to tell your story why why your art looks like the way it is.
2022-10-07T22:50:02.661Z kabirevoknow:  What is? Just create 5 slides on Google Slides. If you don't want to use anything else, just use Google Slides. Create 5 slide, tell a story. Maybe even you make a video, send it out to all the people who are in the.
2022-10-07T22:50:33.102Z kabirevoknow:  In the in this marketplace you know the marketplace market you know they're part of the marketplace and see if you can get highlighted and I I think from my just quick look your your your art is that calibre in my opinion and you know I'm I I I have just learned to appreciate art over the last eight months. I've never looked at art you know for more than a few seconds because you know I'm just I'm just a boring engineer but now I look at it I'm like ohh this person has put in a lot of time.
2022-10-07T22:51:03.641Z kabirevoknow:  A lot of effort even you know that I art I I am learning the difference between somebody just throwing a prompt and somebody like stream just running through crazy iterations comes coming up with something more and then putting it together through some other methods and and then creating a story. If and then immediately I can see ohh this is this could be a story this could be the beginning of something. So so I would advise that you know you go for JPEG store, go for algorithms.
2022-10-07T22:51:33.508Z kabirevoknow:  Now you say I don't know anybody there that's Twitter space that's where you you find them through the space and it follow an FT talk to our space. You will see everyday we all NFT related things are there so you can find them there and you know I would that's that's what I would say it for an artist to do and also please create a mailing list. Twitter has a built in e-mail campaign system enable it and you will be able to collect e-mail addresses and collect.
2022-10-07T22:51:36.531Z kabirevoknow:  Make it, make it, make it list for your.
2022-10-07T22:52:07.092Z kabirevoknow:  List four of your Super fans and eventually you will end up with a tribe of 100 and I I'm just gonna tell you that I've recently reduced my people I follow to 72 and I would say I would probably by the end of the year maybe 100. And the reason I want to not grow fast is that I don't think I can service I can support 100 people at this time. So I want to make sure that I'm I'm touching base with all of them on as regular as basis.
2022-10-07T22:52:20.092Z kabirevoknow:  So build like that. Build like, know the connections. If you're going to follow me, make sure you're communicating with me so that I can share something. Like Blue says, if you're not going to interact, you're going to be just.
2022-10-07T22:52:51.715Z kabirevoknow:  We have so many people. I see with the 100,000 followers, what's the point? They don't, I would guarantee they don't get more than two to 3% interactions. So there's no point in having this big number. It's it's not worth a dime. It's what's dime is have 100 people that follows you and you follow them and then and then take care of each other and and they will connect you to the right people. We talk about like I myself and many others here talk about other people's project. Half the time hardly
2022-10-07T22:52:57.118Z kabirevoknow:  The five projects that we support or care for. So those are super fan mindset and.
2022-10-07T22:53:10.762Z kabirevoknow:  You'll find that your art is fully capable of getting getting that, so I hope you are best of luck. And you know if I see around I know I'm always available to talk about any of this. If you need any help I can provide then let me know.
2022-10-07T22:53:35.493Z LunulaNFTs:  Thanks so much for your advice. I'm really going to take it. I'm going to check out this actually, as you were saying, I was Googling what you were talking about with the Cardano JPEG space, JPEG store, the algorand yeah, so you're saying that it's totally okay to have your art or your collections on different platforms at once.
2022-10-07T22:53:51.229Z kabirevoknow:  Well, that's the, that's there is a dilemma, right? If you have the same art and you're saying this is one of one, then then are you telling the collector that, you know, I can collect this, but at the same time somebody else can collect the same thing? That's what I asked that, you know. Yeah.
2022-10-07T22:53:57.144Z kabirevoknow:  Ohh of course.
2022-10-07T22:53:59.481Z LunulaNFTs:  What? What I mean, I don't mean that. What I mean is like a different, like more of my arts, that's different but still the same theme, right? But to be on different platforms.
2022-10-07T22:54:29.165Z kabirevoknow:  Absolutely absolutely I instead of going around you know outside the ecosystem I would just put them into two at least three and a try out JPEG store try out the algorand try out of you're already trying out OPC so you know that's how I would see it and then what what I would bet that what artists are not doing it creating a pitch track create a story 5 slide tell us who you are so is pain post so we should be able to get and.
2022-10-07T22:54:58.67Z kabirevoknow:  See all that's why she creates this. That's why she's into this right there where people would connect. And when you are actually sleeping because you're paying, post should tell me exactly who you are and and what is it about if you are, if that's what you are trying to do and you know of course, change it out. I mean don't keep the same pin post everyday, you know, all the time change it out, you know, it could be just a personal video capture on a phone saying hey guys, this is what I do it i
2022-10-07T22:55:28.975Z kabirevoknow:  Has to be meaningful. And so when you reach out to the algorithms and the and the and the and the JPEG stores for, you know, like looking for where do artists go, a type of thing, you should send them a link saying this is my story and This is why I do it and and can you help me? You know I want to promote this. I want to get out there and they will. It's like, it's like the kid. You're like when when people apply for university, everybody has a 4.0 GPA when you apply for UC Berkeley.
2022-10-07T22:55:59.253Z kabirevoknow:  Nobody applies for A/C Berkeley and have have a 3.5 GPA. They have 4.0 all the way. The only difference is the kid that says I tried to change the world while I was in high school and I failed miserably three times but I'm still up for it. That's the kids going to get in and so. So with the story it's just the story. We want to hear the story and I think collector wise and and and the technology guys that are behind these JPEG stores, they are craving you know this thing they are.
2022-10-07T22:56:19.785Z kabirevoknow:  Looking for new things and they will be excited so I I really thing you you can try that angle and that should that should be you know hopefully something and we are around I mean like you know like blue is around stream we are all around we're we're always doing spaces every every every everyday and so come tell us how it went.
2022-10-07T22:56:22.367Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-07T22:56:24.593Z LunulaNFTs:  I sure will. Thanks so much.
2022-10-07T22:56:24.67Z Blue2black:  Now, no.
2022-10-07T22:56:56.544Z Blue2black:  The new law. Another thing that I want to get at, um, in terms of how you share your art. I once had a dad this nice talk to you where I actually got into in, you know, the purpose of the art and the meaning and the inspiration and all that about the art. And that is a beautiful story. And consider it this way. Let's say, for instance, you told that story to your collector why you made that art. You told it and he bought it and he kept it in his house.
2022-10-07T22:57:18.81Z Blue2black:  For the next 50 years many eventually he dies and then he skits an error, this painting. And now they don't know, but they want to put it in the marketplace and they want to sell it and but they they only have this little story that you know was told today Father about the you know that painting the significance of it and why it meant something to him.
2022-10-07T22:57:20.265Z Blue2black:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T22:57:23.106Z Blue2black:  If they would sell that painting.
2022-10-07T22:57:26.114Z Blue2black:  Which without saying a word.
2022-10-07T22:57:29.455Z Blue2black:  What value would they have to that painting?
2022-10-07T22:57:30.535Z Blue2black:  But.
2022-10-07T22:57:48.891Z Blue2black:  If they had a story attached to that painting that draws back to you and there's a track record of you and you can be found on the Internet and your story can check out, you know this story can check out and even though you're long gone, you know this artwork is now little piece that speaks about you.
2022-10-07T22:57:55.829Z Blue2black:  Now that little story attached to that artwork is the value.
2022-10-07T22:58:06.469Z Blue2black:  This is exactly why, um, I know that as blue to black I add value to the paintings. Because I bring association. I bring.
2022-10-07T22:58:08.71Z Blue2black:  Type of.
2022-10-07T22:58:41.449Z Blue2black:  Association as as such, you know. So this is what I bring to the table. I know that I bring that value of bringing that story, my story, the association with my story and the association with how my story attaches to the world. Now you have to focus on your story. You have to focus on what your story is going to, how your story is going to add value to that painting, and why that story is so significant in terms of that.
2022-10-07T22:58:49.723Z Blue2black:  Painting. Because remember, it is that story that gives value to that painting without that story.
2022-10-07T22:59:21.865Z Blue2black:  The value of that painting is much less so think about it. And that goes out to every artist out here. I have been selling art and I know how much research is needed. In order to sell an art piece. You really need to know everything. You need to try and delve into the artist, you need to try and delve into. You know, even the frame you know. Sometimes even the frame can tell you if it was a commissioned work or not. You have to look at, you know, the artist and then you have to look at the lifet
2022-10-07T22:59:43.991Z Blue2black:  Is this one of his earlier works or some of his latest works? You know, and then you look at, you know kind of the theme of it, you know, is it in his general theme or is it outside of his general theme. And then you go into the detail and you kind of look at the size and you look at this and then you start coming up with these stories. But if there is just this little glimpse of the story that kind of.
2022-10-07T23:00:07.461Z Blue2black:  Towels, a different side. Like you can say like OK, now this is a Commission painting from, you know, this person and it's A and it paints a picture of his wife and their dog. And you know, they're sitting in in, you know, their mansion and you know she was going to die of cancer. And then he decided, no, I have to get somebody paint my wife, you know these type of stories.
2022-10-07T23:00:22.158Z Blue2black:  Even though it sounds irrelevant, they really create the dimensions and the experience of that painting and that becomes really important nowadays and if you are trying to to.
2022-10-07T23:00:53.609Z Blue2black:  Sell your art. Didn't you really have to think about all of those aspects of yourself? You know, where are you now in your life that is this part of your latest work? Is it part of your newest work? You know is it part of your current themes? You know, is it a commissioned work? You know, what's the emotions behind it? What's the purpose of the colours? Anything that can help sell that artwork, because really anything you add to it can bring value. It's the same with an.
2022-10-07T23:01:14.173Z Blue2black:  Nfty the moment you give it to utility, you give it another dimension, you give it another use, you give it you that extra feature that that brings value to it. And adding value is what everything is about. That's what changes you from you know, being discovered or not being discovered is having something worth selling.
2022-10-07T23:01:45.287Z Blue2black:  And really if you want, if you doubt on that, if you doubt whether you have something worth selling, then it obviously means you have to tweak it. You have to work on it. You have to develop that kind of skill in order to transfer your vision accurately so that, you know, you give that little bit extra, that little bit more emotion, that little bit more understanding. And that does help, I promise you. And that that makes me want to.
2022-10-07T23:02:09.442Z Blue2black:  Come to ASB now because ASB you've been very modest here. I know that you are well experienced and you know strategies and these type of things and you have obviously had your own experience on in terms of Twitter and so forth. But in real life you're a legend and kind of tell us about now you're kind of angle and your type of strategy that you use and also tell us about your product.
2022-10-07T23:02:16.113Z musttkalandar:  Ohh thanks, that's very sweet.
2022-10-07T23:02:35.706Z musttkalandar:  Well, um, I mean first and foremost like why am I? Here is the question. Like I am a very hardcore believer of web three and the power of decentralization purely from value of.
2022-10-07T23:03:06.787Z musttkalandar:  The, you know, indigenous form that it presents in a way that, you know, all of us are coming together and creating synaptic experiences and art is really a vehicle for art. And artists are a vehicle for opening our doors and our minds towards things that society we haven't spoken about collectively. And so it's like really, really humbling.
2022-10-07T23:03:17.365Z musttkalandar:  To be in a space like this like I just joined in like you can see April I started learning about Web 3.
2022-10-07T23:03:24.354Z musttkalandar:  But I think that I I as a my journey as an artist, you can say I'm autonomous.
2022-10-07T23:03:29.146Z musttkalandar:  Ohh, I started my career when I was 17 years old.
2022-10-07T23:03:58.072Z musttkalandar:  I dropped out of like my after my high school. I just basically dropped out of all education and just went to work as an apprentice in a photography studio and learned by watching and on my first camera and started like my journey as a very like in this very hands on kind of wild spirit way so.
2022-10-07T23:04:10.465Z musttkalandar:  Yeah, I can say that like I in my professional life, like, you know, I have actually played a lot with algorithm in the past year.
2022-10-07T23:04:18.164Z musttkalandar:  Because I was managing the media identity of Indian Commissioner, a police commissioner.
2022-10-07T23:04:37.358Z musttkalandar:  And there it was like a really interesting experience because in that sense Twitter was being used as a information channel, almost like a TV channel, because it was COVID and basically the gateways were open to.
2022-10-07T23:05:08.206Z musttkalandar:  Reinvent whatever we wanted to reinvent. And I'm so like basically I feel very, very complete in my entire journey. Starting off as a, you know, just a photography assistant to learning the image, working with photography, understanding darkroom, working with the chemical side of it, then doing my own long term projects. I have many long term projects.
2022-10-07T23:05:14.548Z musttkalandar:  And I think those projects actually were utility based projects because I am.
2022-10-07T23:05:29.629Z musttkalandar:  Basically, I consider myself to be a systems designer like systemics, like how do we shape the world, how do we design A world based on ethics and sustainability? That is like let's say.
2022-10-07T23:05:46.882Z musttkalandar:  A niche that I'm trying to create for myself from my experiences as an artist. Then I organised a lot because when I entered the art world, like basically the first show I had in New York, I was 21 years old, 22.
2022-10-07T23:05:49.921Z musttkalandar:  I had a show in New York.
2022-10-07T23:06:18.933Z musttkalandar:  Like, if somebody got very impressed by it and then they offered me a huge space. I had a huge space. And I did a huge installation of my first body of work, which were black and white prints that I printed with my own hands. Like large prints, 6 feet tall in the darkroom and like, you know, did all of this crazy stuff. And then my first print was sold at $1200 by Celebrity Chef.
2022-10-07T23:06:47.444Z musttkalandar:  And I think for me at that moment, it was like, okay, I've proven this to myself, that I'm a master. And I've done it by really making a brave move of like, growing up on a farm and never seeing the world and going out and assisting and getting to know the world and understanding from this very naive perspective. And then, you know, learning something, executing, and it was done. And then the question was like, okay?
2022-10-07T23:06:52.416Z musttkalandar:  They know how to do this, but do I know myself?
2022-10-07T23:07:03.501Z musttkalandar:  As an artist, like what am I standing for? Like, do I know how to articulate what? Why is this soul calling calling for me?
2022-10-07T23:07:34.815Z musttkalandar:  And then that was like a huge journey that I went on, of course, you know, doing odd jobs of all kinds, then getting an education, borrowing money for my education, then going back and like paying the money and doing jobs and construction and project management and understanding tenders and understanding the service industry. I felt like it was a real blessing in my life because as an artist, you don't know the selling.
2022-10-07T23:07:39.262Z musttkalandar:  Not like it's just not in your veins.
2022-10-07T23:07:47.164Z musttkalandar:  And like for me, like, you know, I would like when you make something like a soul calling like.
2022-10-07T23:08:04.759Z musttkalandar:  I mean, you know, why would you wanna exchange that? I mean, look at Lula's work. Like, why would I wanna exchange whatever that magic is that makes you manifest these divine images with ability to sell your craft?
2022-10-07T23:08:29.159Z musttkalandar:  So I think walking in the service industry, I felt like a bit empowered. And when I saw what it was like in the art world and especially in India, like I felt like, oh, there's not enough dignity for artists and we can self organise. And that's when I really got into like living a decentralised life and that was 2012 so.
2022-10-07T23:08:54.239Z musttkalandar:  Ever since I like, I have a lot of work. I have a lot of projects that have actual utility because when I did boxing, I kind of became part of the boxing family of New York. Like these are the people I called when I after I migrated and was like stuck and I had nowhere to go. And these people have been like family to me I have worked with.
2022-10-07T23:09:19.018Z musttkalandar:  Like basically these remote tribals in South India where I'm helping an old man who's helping tribals with some essential oils or have a whole photo series. But I want to connect that to the oils and to the mission so people can actually have the access in a very authentic way.
2022-10-07T23:09:32.818Z musttkalandar:  Um, I have an amazing project which is about like dancers and the whole dancer dancer community. So I have like 7 or 8 different projects like this.
2022-10-07T23:09:49.974Z musttkalandar:  And The thing is, like I like each and everyone has a particular, it's talking to a particular sensitivity. And I'm really trying to study like which artwork is related to which chain.
2022-10-07T23:10:22.275Z musttkalandar:  Because I I really feel like there's a very strong disruptor side to my self that I want to channel properly and and use it in a responsible way to actually let the voice of the art create something where the ecosystems can be strengthened or a new way where artists can find like this affiliate market thing. So I was studying about affiliate market and I was going to tell Lula.
2022-10-07T23:10:28.38Z musttkalandar:  Like if you have like the like digital works that you think are like even okay.
2022-10-07T23:10:59.096Z musttkalandar:  Just going at sea and like put them on at sea and like get rid of the stock. So I also feel like I have this huge stock of of photographs that are very mean. Like like they have this weird sense of humour. So I have this fantasy that, like somehow by being in web three I can find out where all the awesome dudes who are making like cool memes need amazing art that they can just take. So like.
2022-10-07T23:11:29.677Z musttkalandar:  And really segregating everything. Then I have an amazing project which is on with weavers and talking about weaving and blankets and women's traditions. So definitely want to work with, you know, people who are going to be able to use some of these funds from the sales to empower. Mostly the underlying thing is women empowerment. For me, like everything goes back to women empowerment.
2022-10-07T23:11:33.534Z musttkalandar:  Because, like, my mom is a farmer and she's.
2022-10-07T23:12:05.943Z musttkalandar:  A woman female farmer, she and my grandmom, the way that they actually created opportunities for me and my sister to sisters to be having like an international exposure and a presence like selling the roses and selling the the products and the produce and being creative with all of those things. Like I really believe in that strength of the women to be entrepreneurial.
2022-10-07T23:12:37.382Z musttkalandar:  And having that ability to really make amazing things and wherever my work can, like the revenue from my work, can give empowerment and freedom to these women to shine. Like I like, I want to make this the whole ecosystem of my platform. And like the last thing is that I have a lot of magical people in my circle who are very, very talented and gifted people who have unique gifts.
2022-10-07T23:12:58.016Z musttkalandar:  So I definitely want to create like my whole art and my platform as something where, you know, by participation you also become a part of my world and you can access amazing things in a way that helps like other people grow and, you know, contribute to your own growth.
2022-10-07T23:13:29.914Z Blue2black:  Well said, well said, I you you said a lot of things there, you really did. And yeah Llanelli, I hope that you got some advice from that. And now blim, I want to come to you, back to you there because you haven't really fully introduced yourself there. I was just kind of asking you a question. Now you've got more the angle of music and you incorporate music as an FD, which is also quite a a very innovative way of kind of.
2022-10-07T23:13:54.64Z Blue2black:  Reaching out to like the Spice NFD and so forth. But tell us about your product and tell us then about the strategy that you've been using so far and do you feel that it's been successful in terms of using it and or do you think it needs to be tweaked? Do you need things, do you think it needs to be changed? Tell us about your product and your strategy, please.
2022-10-07T23:13:58.497Z BlemMedia:  Yes, greetings again.
2022-10-07T23:14:07.758Z BlemMedia:  Look, so again, I am Turan and I represent blim.
2022-10-07T23:14:13.601Z BlemMedia:  And blame is the acronym for Best Lifestyle embracing.
2022-10-07T23:14:17.791Z BlemMedia:  And I started blim.
2022-10-07T23:14:20.222Z BlemMedia:  As a boutique.
2022-10-07T23:14:21.788Z BlemMedia:  Yeah, and.
2022-10-07T23:14:24.077Z BlemMedia:  Amazon Music.
2022-10-07T23:14:29.582Z BlemMedia:  Hey Joe, I double in different parts of music I.
2022-10-07T23:14:37.637Z BlemMedia:  From a younger stage I used to play the Congo jump still do, as a matter of fact.
2022-10-07T23:14:40.514Z BlemMedia:  Um, so.
2022-10-07T23:14:43.717Z BlemMedia:  Things change and I learn.
2022-10-07T23:14:48.992Z BlemMedia:  Beat making software and so.
2022-10-07T23:14:53.473Z BlemMedia:  I'm a beach. I do vocals.
2022-10-07T23:14:54.933Z BlemMedia:  By.
2022-10-07T23:15:01.754Z BlemMedia:  Those artists I work with quite a number of reggae artists and.
2022-10-07T23:15:03.605Z BlemMedia:  During.
2022-10-07T23:15:03.574Z BlemMedia:  
2022-10-07T23:15:06.929Z BlemMedia:  Or experience and.
2022-10-07T23:15:09.207Z BlemMedia:  Journey with.
2022-10-07T23:15:10.561Z BlemMedia:  Music I.
2022-10-07T23:15:13.595Z BlemMedia:  Trying to realise that, um.
2022-10-07T23:15:19.092Z BlemMedia:  Myself and the fellow musicians that I.
2022-10-07T23:15:26.61Z BlemMedia:  Collaborate with we we are technically in.
2022-10-07T23:15:28.592Z BlemMedia:  Terms of like reach.
2022-10-07T23:15:31.104Z BlemMedia:  An audience and um.
2022-10-07T23:15:33.444Z BlemMedia:  Even financing.
2022-10-07T23:15:45.454Z BlemMedia:  In general, the passion was always. The passion has always been there. We love music dearly, like I always try.
2022-10-07T23:15:49.611Z BlemMedia:  To do things that will.
2022-10-07T23:15:56.246Z BlemMedia:  Kind of suit her emotions, so to speak, as it relates to.
2022-10-07T23:15:57.922Z BlemMedia:  Um.
2022-10-07T23:15:59.685Z BlemMedia:  Music so.
2022-10-07T23:16:01.182Z BlemMedia:  For us.
2022-10-07T23:16:03.815Z BlemMedia:  Forward a little bit.
2022-10-07T23:16:07.975Z BlemMedia:  Coming in to these spaces.
2022-10-07T23:16:14.55Z BlemMedia:  I really got sort of. I use the term mental stimulation.
2022-10-07T23:16:16.94Z BlemMedia:  However.
2022-10-07T23:16:23.542Z BlemMedia:  I had social difficulties, you know, socialising and speaking because I stutter.
2022-10-07T23:16:30.516Z BlemMedia:  It's space like Timberland and Leslie mother confident speaking, they do that.
2022-10-07T23:16:39.099Z BlemMedia:  That it on Saturdays at 11:00 o'clock it was his dear space.
2022-10-07T23:16:51.606Z BlemMedia:  Where I started to listen and develop somewhat of a confidence to, you know, speak and start to articulate them.
2022-10-07T23:17:01.704Z BlemMedia:  My point and thank you again for the opportunity to to to be able to be on this plane.
2022-10-07T23:17:01.951Z BlemMedia:  
2022-10-07T23:17:07.922Z BlemMedia:  Or when, um, basically, you know, introduce myself.
2022-10-07T23:17:31.509Z BlemMedia:  Yeah. So with that being said, I decided to start a music mastery journal. So I had some songs recorded before that. You know, people encouraged me to put them on, but I always thought of discourage. I was discouraged because if I'm just how they.
2022-10-07T23:18:03.296Z BlemMedia:  The traditional streaming platforms work. Even recently I got notifications, I distributed my music with TuneCore and I recently got notification for one of my artists in Miami that they're going to take down this on if I don't renew it. And I think it cost like $49.00, but I refuse to pay the $49.00 because I didn't make that in sales. So so.
2022-10-07T23:18:16.057Z BlemMedia:  And it is a nice spoke about, you know like blockchain technology and he's excited about and encourage also about like releasing his music in that form so.
2022-10-07T23:18:16.169Z BlemMedia:  
2022-10-07T23:18:36.959Z BlemMedia:  I do traditional streaming platforms. With that being said, yes, I I decided to start the music, my music Mastery journal as a sort of guide to my album, which I'm I'm recording now. I have the title track come.
2022-10-07T23:18:46.889Z BlemMedia:  Completed its title, self-reliance and the reason why I decided to do this is to kind of give myself and.
2022-10-07T23:18:56.201Z BlemMedia:  Sort of guide and something to to to reminiscent and something of.
2022-10-07T23:18:57.302Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T23:19:02.025Z BlemMedia:  Said that was research and properly done, no.
2022-10-07T23:19:11.616Z BlemMedia:  Why is it relates to what I'm doing to get this word out? Um creating the steak type?
2022-10-07T23:19:16.899Z BlemMedia:  I did. I officially started a podcast.
2022-10-07T23:19:22.196Z BlemMedia:  With the same theme except for lions, the first episode was.
2022-10-07T23:19:40.224Z BlemMedia:  Money in crypto decided to speak about that simply because of the said problems myself and fellow ACC faced. And yeah, so. So that's pretty much my approach.
2022-10-07T23:19:43.022Z BlemMedia:  To this whole arm.
2022-10-07T23:19:47.101Z BlemMedia:  Iron Mint um, I just um.
2022-10-07T23:19:49.206Z BlemMedia:  Try to.
2022-10-07T23:19:59.549Z BlemMedia:  Add value in that I do my research on my I come across Web 3 streaming platforms.
2022-10-07T23:20:02.709Z BlemMedia:  And I'm doing.
2022-10-07T23:20:10.29Z BlemMedia:  Their research, looking them up, seeing how they can benefit myself and other musicians, stuff like that and.
2022-10-07T23:20:11.892Z BlemMedia:  Hearing it.
2022-10-07T23:20:17.457Z BlemMedia:  Spaces I've made friends here such as you know.
2022-10-07T23:20:27.776Z BlemMedia:  The NFT founder Sir Kabeer stream. Of course Dr Zig Zag is someone who I am.
2022-10-07T23:20:31.404Z BlemMedia:  Familiar with um, we do a.
2022-10-07T23:20:39.499Z BlemMedia:  Tuesday night show from 9:00 o'clock to 11:00 o'clock my self and my brother called knowledge he's into.
2022-10-07T23:20:39.614Z BlemMedia:  
2022-10-07T23:20:45.029Z BlemMedia:  Door trades and stuff like that. He does live trade and.
2022-10-07T23:20:54.082Z BlemMedia:  Something I know something, I'm sorry that went in FT launch similar to the art lounge, but you know.
2022-10-07T23:21:01.518Z BlemMedia:  It's such a different yes. So we do a show called the web 3 water cooler. Him and.
2022-10-07T23:21:07.004Z BlemMedia:  Is the wonderful someone else who I met in these spaces.
2022-10-07T23:21:09.642Z BlemMedia:  Yeah, and so far.
2022-10-07T23:21:11.79Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T23:21:16.302Z BlemMedia:  It's been a good journey and so forth, so that's why I pretty much.
2022-10-07T23:21:21.694Z BlemMedia:  A bird that maneuver in the spaces, said Alexa.
2022-10-07T23:21:23.57Z BlemMedia:  Yes, please bear with me.
2022-10-07T23:21:26.586Z Blue2black:  OK, doctor zig zag.
2022-10-07T23:21:30.003Z drzigzag009:  Yo-yo blimp.
2022-10-07T23:21:33.417Z drzigzag009:  Man, I like that idea about the uh.
2022-10-07T23:21:37.84Z drzigzag009:  Taking your music and dropping it in the key.
2022-10-07T23:21:42.948Z drzigzag009:  So I was wondering what would the smart contract look like on that?
2022-10-07T23:21:49.632Z drzigzag009:  And I think they want you paid to have a screen, but you're not doing those sales.
2022-10-07T23:21:55.258Z drzigzag009:  They were born about 50 bucks. You said 49 or something.
2022-10-07T23:21:57.4Z drzigzag009:  To renew.
2022-10-07T23:21:59.264Z drzigzag009:  And I like the idea.
2022-10-07T23:21:59.601Z Blue2black:  I'll talk about that now.
2022-10-07T23:22:09.324Z BlemMedia:  Yes, as it relates to smart contract Doctor Zig Zag, thanks for asking that and that's an interesting.
2022-10-07T23:22:16.462Z BlemMedia:  Question I am so I'm not too versed on smart contracts so to speak, but.
2022-10-07T23:22:25.867Z BlemMedia:  So one of the persons I look up to in these spaces, Kabeer, he's here, he he mentioned.
2022-10-07T23:22:38.33Z BlemMedia:  3 tiers to NFT and the first tier of course I I put it as the music.
2022-10-07T23:22:57.807Z BlemMedia:  As the youth utility, I mean, you buy the music, the music, you get nothing, nothing more, nothing less. A second tier could include membership, because the thing about it, I see mum.
2022-10-07T23:22:59.103Z BlemMedia:  Missions.
2022-10-07T23:23:04.095Z BlemMedia:  Separating stems and vocals.
2022-10-07T23:23:10.277Z BlemMedia:  Of course this this in my opinion, is for us specific needs.
2022-10-07T23:23:14.172Z BlemMedia:  No, I didn't. I know you're.
2022-10-07T23:23:25.2Z BlemMedia:  That's something I'm focused in on in the initial stage. So but but it's it's definitely something I plan to look into.
2022-10-07T23:23:26.267Z BlemMedia:  Like those?
2022-10-07T23:23:27.97Z BlemMedia:  Go.
2022-10-07T23:23:37.259Z BlemMedia:  It's the art and just the music being. It's so invaluable if that explains anything.
2022-10-07T23:23:42.703Z drzigzag009:  Definitely, definitely.
2022-10-07T23:23:47.649Z drzigzag009:  
2022-10-07T23:23:57.415Z Blue2black:  I just wanna come back to something there a lot of you are not getting sales and.
2022-10-07T23:24:07.669Z Blue2black:  That tells me obviously that you following the wrong strategy. Now I want to talk about the right strategy in a bit, but let before I do slova.
2022-10-07T23:24:17.125Z slavakurilyak:  Yeah. I have a question for blem, just to learn kind of more about your aspirations you mentioned.
2022-10-07T23:24:41.492Z slavakurilyak:  Leveraging technology to help you to create music and arts, and I really applaud that. I think we need more musicians in this space who are using the latest technology. But I'm also curious, are you exclusively focusing on the musical as the audio side or are you also open to the music videos which are kind of the visual side of music?
2022-10-07T23:24:47.787Z BlemMedia:  It's an definitely, definitely open to the video side of it.
2022-10-07T23:24:47.88Z BlemMedia:  
2022-10-07T23:24:54.295Z BlemMedia:  So as I am a a producer and so.
2022-10-07T23:24:55.736Z BlemMedia:  I.
2022-10-07T23:24:58.549Z BlemMedia:  Queried from this this.
2022-10-07T23:25:02.047Z BlemMedia:  The lower tier to the top tier, so definitely.
2022-10-07T23:25:07.045Z BlemMedia:  The videos and I did did of course.
2022-10-07T23:25:18.34Z BlemMedia:  Look into someone that XYZ. It's a pretty great music publishing website.
2022-10-07T23:25:20.806Z BlemMedia:  Yeah, it.
2022-10-07T23:25:22.62Z BlemMedia:  Because the.
2022-10-07T23:25:39.915Z BlemMedia:  I think besides someone, someone that XY for music distribution. So far I've seen platforms like audio, some Miller studio, a couple of them, but that one stands out.
2022-10-07T23:25:45.749Z BlemMedia:  To me, um, I've been come across any video.
2022-10-07T23:25:51.751Z BlemMedia:  Whipped through the streaming platform just yet though. Go ahead please. Slower.
2022-10-07T23:26:22.895Z slavakurilyak:  Yeah, I wanted to give you a resource that I think is worth checking out. You mentioned you're looking for video streaming solution for musicians like yourself. I I think there is a very close, I would say solution that is worth checking out. It's called glass. I was in a Twitter space right before this listening to the latest drop they they had with a musician, Alex something. He did a music video. He dropped it today.
2022-10-07T23:26:37.267Z slavakurilyak:  One glass. The domain is glass dot XYZ, and I can speak more about the technology, but it's definitely worth checking out for musicians who are interested in dropping music videos as Np's.
2022-10-07T23:26:43.226Z BlemMedia:  I appreciate, love that Slover. Thank you for that.
2022-10-07T23:26:45.004Z BlemMedia:  All done.
2022-10-07T23:26:53.617Z Blue2black:  OK, now coming back to getting results from sharing your work. Um, look.
2022-10-07T23:26:55.008Z Blue2black:  I have to say this.
2022-10-07T23:26:59.204Z Blue2black:  Can you use open sea weather use.
2022-10-07T23:27:03.298Z Blue2black:  They were foundation or error to object whatever you use.
2022-10-07T23:27:10.963Z Blue2black:  Be relevant. It's absolutely irrelevant. That is merely the place you send somebody to buy your artwork.
2022-10-07T23:27:14.931Z Blue2black:  It is not the reason why somebody go there.
2022-10-07T23:27:16.73Z Blue2black:  By order.
2022-10-07T23:27:16.778Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T23:27:17.885Z Blue2black:  No.
2022-10-07T23:27:21.792Z Blue2black:  It's a clear, clear definition between the two.
2022-10-07T23:27:27.069Z Blue2black:  You uploading your artwork to a marketplace doesn't sell it.
2022-10-07T23:27:34.241Z Blue2black:  It disappears in the catalogue. It disappears in the library. It is there. Yes, it is there.
2022-10-07T23:27:44.334Z Blue2black:  You can go look for it, you can find it, it is there. There's a prize on it. You can buy it. Everything is right. But that is not what sells it.
2022-10-07T23:27:48.005Z Blue2black:  Having it on a marketplace is one thing, but.
2022-10-07T23:27:58.268Z Blue2black:  There is a strategy behind reaching somebody to buy it and that is the strategy that I'm talking about here now.
2022-10-07T23:28:00.121Z Blue2black:  In order to.
2022-10-07T23:28:17.355Z Blue2black:  For instance, if you're going to have to think about it in real life, it's the same way. Now let's say for instance, you've got a restaurant and you decide to open a restaurant the week before Christmas.
2022-10-07T23:28:18.474Z Blue2black:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T23:28:25.698Z Blue2black:  That's a fine, fine and dandy. You can open it up a week for Christmas and there will be people there, but how many people will be there?
2022-10-07T23:28:41.888Z Blue2black:  Ohh, you're just talking about, you know, forcing passerbys. You know, people are just gonna walk past because it's a busy St and people are definitely going to see it. So let's say for instance, you didn't do any marketing, you didn't do a launch party, you didn't.
2022-10-07T23:28:47.422Z Blue2black:  Remote the OR the the restaurant going to be launched then?
2022-10-07T23:28:53.976Z Blue2black:  You shouldn't expect that many people there. In fact, you should be lucky if any of them show up.
2022-10-07T23:29:10.83Z Blue2black:  But if you did do a launching, if you did go out, then for the first year everything will go dandy, and then in the second year everything will go worse. And then in the third year, if you survive that third year, you'll make it to the 4th year.
2022-10-07T23:29:14.764Z Blue2black:  And it's the same with artworks.
2022-10-07T23:29:21.166Z Blue2black:  You have to have a strategy, you have to have a plan, you have to have a launch because.
2022-10-07T23:29:51.989Z Blue2black:  That restaurant that launched with the first year, they're going to do brilliant. The second year they're going to do a little bit worse, but they'll still survive the third year. Why? Why would they survive the third year and not the other one who didn't do it? Because every little bit counts every essentially it's the same as making a movie, and if it doesn't get asses on seats, then the movie didn't sell, because why didn't it get access on seeds?
2022-10-07T23:30:05.819Z Blue2black:  Is it because of the marketing? Is it because of the movie? Is it because of the product? Is it because of the professionality? You know, there's lots of aspects involved, but essentially it comes down to the fact that you need the marketing budget.
2022-10-07T23:30:08.019Z Blue2black:  In fact, 30%.
2022-10-07T23:30:09.463Z Blue2black:  He's usually.
2022-10-07T23:30:13.307Z Blue2black:  Considered to be fairly decent marketing budget.
2022-10-07T23:30:13.454Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T23:30:31.338Z Blue2black:  Ohh what is your marketing budget? Ohh are there any marketing budget? Are you launching your product or you're actually creating a hype around the project? You know, hype is everything in terms of marketing. This is what marketing really is. It creates.
2022-10-07T23:30:42.333Z Blue2black:  A pre launching eye, you know, a bit of dimension, a bit of vibe, a bit of atmosphere, a bit of association, anything that you can.
2022-10-07T23:31:01.099Z Blue2black:  At that to do that, so that you can like I say add that little bit of value, you know, add that little bit of you know branding that experience, it's all about you know they want to have a good product. If you have a good product then obviously people will keep coming.
2022-10-07T23:31:32.477Z Blue2black:  But you have to still put yourself on the map. And by putting yourself on the map you have to consider things like Google Marketing, Twitter, Twitter marketing, you know, all these type of things, affiliate marketing. This is essentially what's going to help you as an artist, having a launch party for your art artwork. So for instance, making a hype, creating a scene, having a party, having a giveaway, having something.
2022-10-07T23:31:33.283Z drzigzag009:  All the time.
2022-10-07T23:31:36.37Z Blue2black:  Associated with it so that you boost that project.
2022-10-07T23:31:57.441Z Blue2black:  So that you you create that hype around the project that you can actually then on your first launch maybe cover the cost of making it so that in the next year of you not having any sales, maybe then at least you've had at least the launch. Now you can work on the next project and the next launch, but you always have to think about.
2022-10-07T23:31:59.317Z Blue2black:  That.
2022-10-07T23:32:04.413Z Blue2black:  Adding that a little bit different, adding that a little bit more, you know?
2022-10-07T23:32:11.422Z Blue2black:  Stop thinking that this is going to work. Have another plan. If this doesn't work, then this is gonna work.
2022-10-07T23:32:17.021Z Blue2black:  Find out schemes, look at what other people are doing, what's working, but definitely try everything.
2022-10-07T23:32:18.491Z Blue2black:  You cannot.
2022-10-07T23:32:28.984Z Blue2black:  Expect that the algorithm of Twitter to make you discoverable. It doesn't work like that. You cannot depend on anything more than.
2022-10-07T23:32:30.005Z Blue2black:  What you put in?
2022-10-07T23:32:46.288Z Blue2black:  And unfortunately that's just the way it works. You really have to invest into your own project because that little bit counts it. It does help because sometimes without that you won't get any results. So.
2022-10-07T23:32:56.093Z Blue2black:  It's difficult to say what strategy is going to work for this one and what's going to work for that one, but for instance, blame if you would have a gig.
2022-10-07T23:33:09.87Z BlemMedia:  No, I'm here. I'm listening.
2022-10-07T23:33:21.088Z Blue2black:  And you would have the best artist you know, you'll have a Vinci there, you know, and everything's good. He's name even years still. OK, blame is not here anymore, but no blame. Blame is okay. And you've got a Vinci there. You've got, you've got all these great artists, that perfect lineup, you know, and the gig starts and there's 90 people there. Then what's to blame?
2022-10-07T23:33:23.372Z Blue2black:  You know.
2022-10-07T23:33:25.747Z BlemMedia:  Yeah.
2022-10-07T23:33:28.48Z BlemMedia:  Yes, definitely.
2022-10-07T23:33:28.415Z Blue2black:  Essentially, marketing is to blame. It means you didn't create.
2022-10-07T23:33:43.541Z Blue2black:  You didn't create a vibe, you didn't create the hype. He didn't create an exposure for these people. Even though the product is awesome, the product is everything they want it to be. It would have the whole town would have been there if it was marketed right.
2022-10-07T23:33:43.796Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T23:33:53.563Z Blue2black:  It's the same with an artwork. If you didn't create that marketing strategy, if you didn't create that hype, if you didn't create that exposure.
2022-10-07T23:33:57.392Z Blue2black:  And you know that, that, that.
2022-10-07T23:34:20.02Z Blue2black:  I don't know. I can't put my finger on it, but really there is. You need that marketing. Marketing really is absolutely vital to any product. But you have to do it right. You have to connect with the people and you need to to find the right crowd. Because obviously if you don't have a crowd, then consider.
2022-10-07T23:34:29.183Z Blue2black:  Hanging on and building that crowd that you can rely on so that you can actually do it because it takes.
2022-10-07T23:34:32.331Z Blue2black:  It takes a bit of expertise, so.
2022-10-07T23:34:37.88Z Blue2black:  Slow. I'm gonna come back to you because you really do a lot of marketing and.
2022-10-07T23:34:46.85Z Blue2black:  Tell us about the actual marketing strategy that these people should be using and what is the right marketing strategy.
2022-10-07T23:34:54.336Z slavakurilyak:  Ohh yeah a great question. I I think for the purpose of this space I'll focus on creators.
2022-10-07T23:34:57.743Z slavakurilyak:  So one of the challenges the greatest face is.
2022-10-07T23:34:59.444Z slavakurilyak:  Basically.
2022-10-07T23:35:20.023Z slavakurilyak:  Like thinking about what are they spending their time on and if they are an artist and they are in the process of creating, they are not marketing. That's kind of by definition of creating, you're not marketing it. It's kind of the equivalent between somebody who is.
2022-10-07T23:35:50.458Z slavakurilyak:  In process and somebody who stops doing that process. In order to do marketing, you need to stop creating or stop building or stop making. Once you realise that you do need to do marketing, like if you listen to what blue to block a saying and you understand that it's important to you, that's when you do something different than what you're typically used to. And that is a challenge for a lot of creators. So I often remind creators that you know.
2022-10-07T23:36:05.31Z slavakurilyak:  If you want to be known, then you have to share your work. This is a simple, I would say strategy to follow. If you're sharing your work, that means you are doing marketing and you are on that job.
2022-10-07T23:36:35.771Z slavakurilyak:  Now, marketing is not for not for every creator, in that it is a skill. It is a skill like any other. It can be learned, but it does require effort. So creators typically don't go down this path, at least intuitively, because they're focusing on the creative aspect of the art. They don't focus on the sales aspect of the art. So you do need to make a conscious decision to do marketing.
2022-10-07T23:37:07.199Z slavakurilyak:  It is a skill that you can learn. It is something you can do. But there is a distinction between creating and marketing, and it's important to give value to that. And beyond that, I mean, if you have capital to spend now, you can outsource marketing and that's a different ball game. But from a creative perspective, I would assume that you know, from this circumstance where you're focusing your time on creating. Well, if you're creating, you're not sharing your work and that's where you need to s
2022-10-07T23:37:18.018Z slavakurilyak:  Or at least take take opportunity to share your work. Now. What does that look like? Forever Create is different, right? Some creators need to spend most of their time creating.
2022-10-07T23:37:48.422Z slavakurilyak:  And a little bit of time marketing. Other creators need to have a more balanced approach where they're for example, marketing 50% of the time, creating 50% of the time. And it's simple way to know kind of where you are is think about how much time you spend creating versus how much time do you spend on Twitter or marketing or writing blog posts or writing e-mail newsletters. That is a simple metric to look at and then if you realise that you're currently spending.
2022-10-07T23:38:18.03Z slavakurilyak:  Most of my time on the creation aspect, great. Then the question is how much value do you give to marketing? And if you think you're not doing marketing enough, consider spending 15 minutes more, 30 minutes more everyday to do marketing so that you can achieve the kind of impact you're looking for. So you do need to give conscious energy for marketing and you cannot simply dismiss it and not neither can you rely on.
2022-10-07T23:38:25.55Z slavakurilyak:  Certain platforms like social media platforms or NFC marketplaces to do marketing for you, because then you're passive, not active.
2022-10-07T23:38:35.543Z Blue2black:  Now you also do professional um. You can also help artists in terms of you know.
2022-10-07T23:38:51.897Z Blue2black:  Outsourcing their marketing now in terms of outsourcing the marketing, what type of strategy do you use there? I know that's an inside kind of thing, but I do want you to kind of share so that they understand if they're outsource their.
2022-10-07T23:38:59.455Z Blue2black:  The project? Then what happens to it? And why do they benefit from outsourcing them their marketing?
2022-10-07T23:39:30.515Z slavakurilyak:  Ohh, yeah. If we're talking about outsourcing and we're talking about for example helping creators or brands to do marketing work, then you know, this takes many, many different forms. Myself and that Phoenix we tried I would say close to a dozen different marketing strategies when it comes to marketing NFT creators specifically. And you know there's there's lots of insights that I can share, but I'll just focus on some of the best practices that way people have a really good starting point.
2022-10-07T23:40:00.988Z slavakurilyak:  One of the current best practices for marketing NFT creators or NFT brands is to do what are called collaborations. So if you are an artist and you collaborate with another artist or you collaborate with another developer or somebody else, that gives you a better leverage against somebody who doesn't. And that that kind of collaboration as a form of marketing.
2022-10-07T23:40:31.267Z slavakurilyak:  Has worked across many innovative projects. It has worked across many artists. So I highly encourage you, if you haven't considered collaborating with somebody else, that you at least think about it and find somebody who vibes with your idea. Now I'll just give a few examples so that people can have a better understanding. So in Blems case, Blem was here earlier listening. Ohh actually blend is still here. Blem is an audio specialist and yet he will benefit greatly if he.
2022-10-07T23:41:02.05Z slavakurilyak:  Partners with somebody who understands marketing, somebody who understands sales, somebody who understands artistic side, if he doesn't want to do that himself. So this is a current best practice, no matter how small or big you are, if you collaborate with somebody else, then both of you benefit. The reason for that is because your network has now been increased by kind of multiplier. That essentially is if you're marketing only, your network knows if somebody else is marketing for you.
2022-10-07T23:41:12.707Z slavakurilyak:  Their network knows, but if you come together through a collaboration, now both networks are aware of each other. So that's one that's practice. I'll leave it at that, because I do see. Hands up. Hey, blam, hey, doctor's exec.
2022-10-07T23:41:21.097Z Blue2black:  Yeah, blame you at your aunt Thursday. Then we go to Doctor Zig zag. I think it's all related, so blame.
2022-10-07T23:41:27.217Z BlemMedia:  Yes. Uh, thank you for that.
2022-10-07T23:41:39.253Z BlemMedia:  Yes, I had some picnic cut. It is there.
2022-10-07T23:41:42.502Z BlemMedia:  As it relates to marketing though, it's.
2022-10-07T23:41:45.275Z BlemMedia:  It's kind of.
2022-10-07T23:42:01.931Z BlemMedia:  Different than my end cause I did face the challenge, so to speak, of, you know, having a ear for new releases like music wise.
2022-10-07T23:42:02.637Z BlemMedia:  
2022-10-07T23:42:05.022Z BlemMedia:  That was something I.
2022-10-07T23:42:09.755Z BlemMedia:  Thought about deeply like like.
2022-10-07T23:42:12.426Z BlemMedia:  Many at times we make.
2022-10-07T23:42:25.417Z BlemMedia:  Music and if if only the audience was there to listen, it would just feel better. But I had an experience where during the pandemic.
2022-10-07T23:42:47.965Z BlemMedia:  And again, this is just to sue the emotional comfort, you know what I'm saying? I had a couple of my artists and associates. Do I live on zoom from all over the UK, Canada, Jamaica, Miami, and it was good, I remember.
2022-10-07T23:42:56.715Z BlemMedia:  Listening back a couple weeks ago, I was driving to city and just just seeing I was communicating with.
2022-10-07T23:43:03.958Z BlemMedia:  One of the artists, he lives in Brooklyn and I was saying his name is Stuxnet, I was saying.
2022-10-07T23:43:07.202Z BlemMedia:  You know this is.
2022-10-07T23:43:38.422Z BlemMedia:  The first time of actually saw you do a good set and you worked like you often go and shows and you get the chance to hold the mic and do a song and and that's it. So I I just relates to marketing, I'm really not versing that but I come to kind of realise that as upcoming new musicians it's like a folk Cassandra's building quality content because it will come around like.
2022-10-07T23:43:38.884Z BlemMedia:  Someone.
2022-10-07T23:43:50.622Z BlemMedia:  We'll see. Like trying my best to record good events. That is the aim, because the world is so big, of course, like.
2022-10-07T23:43:57.375Z BlemMedia:  When I look at even the bill as it relates to crypto.
2022-10-07T23:44:05.248Z BlemMedia:  It's still. Well, SCC introduced. It still says in produced and.
2022-10-07T23:44:32.814Z BlemMedia:  Like when I scroll and I see what in the bill what they define as stable coin, it has to do with demand and like to be quite. So you spoke about value blue to black and to build value like I think it takes time. It takes a lot of time to really build value. So like with that being said, I see we're just just not trying to.
2022-10-07T23:44:52.94Z BlemMedia:  You know fit, fit in any like marketing technique just again sincere art and just making sure that your record it. That's just my philosophy. I mean seven right at 7 different mine because of my experience of course zig zag.
2022-10-07T23:44:59.123Z drzigzag009:  Yeah, I'm gonna have to piggyback on that blind man because.
2022-10-07T23:45:10.447Z drzigzag009:  It's about timing. But when you have a story behind your artwork that you've been developing, say if it's a film director and you producing a movie.
2022-10-07T23:45:16.379Z drzigzag009:  But you want to keep your audience engaged on Twitter and different platforms.
2022-10-07T23:45:26.284Z drzigzag009:  You still need to keep building that community if you don't have a chance to just outright market, so building that community is engaging.
2022-10-07T23:45:53.108Z drzigzag009:  Speaking towards other people's project and you know what that means? Being critical or being excited about what they do. I mean, you do you. So when that occurs you want to be authentic in your voice. So because people could hear, realise that you're for real, and maybe when you drop something they'll come and see what you're doing. So your marketing has to be thorough.
2022-10-07T23:46:15.693Z drzigzag009:  They just, you know, be you want to be. They taught my ceiling, I'm going to have my icon because I like it and not changing it. And you, sometimes you do things to protect the innocent because if you see yourself as a radical artist that wants to do something different in the metaverse.
2022-10-07T23:46:30.339Z drzigzag009:  Then you might need that I'm an entity for a little while before you break out and say, hey, I'm I'm Full disclosure. But other words, you still want to tell a story and you need to bring that to the game.
2022-10-07T23:46:32.375Z drzigzag009:  And.
2022-10-07T23:46:48.402Z drzigzag009:  When you ready to drop whatever project you got, cause I know there's some great people in this space and they got some good projects and right now it's a it's a bear market. So I don't see anybody ready to rush and do something big right now because there's nobody ready to spend that money.
2022-10-07T23:47:17.791Z drzigzag009:  So, but if you keep working on what you're working on and developing it and bringing it to the forefront, you just drop a little bread crumbs. I'm pretty sure the Pied Piper and the rest of his little followers are followed crumbs on, on what you're doing if you're doing the right things and building the community. So, and I think it it's going to take time. There's a lot of new products that need to hit the market, like what kind of VR glasses need to be in this place.
2022-10-07T23:47:25.637Z drzigzag009:  What kind of who's who's going to represent tokens that are gonna go across different networks?
2022-10-07T23:47:42.084Z drzigzag009:  And you can still maintain the rights and how your smart contract is related to artists, because if I find I found the artist that really inspired me, I I said, well, let's do something together, I'll drop my artwork onto your project.
2022-10-07T23:47:45.451Z drzigzag009:  And you do your.
2022-10-07T23:47:49.293Z drzigzag009:  What you do behind the mic, I love it and.
2022-10-07T23:48:07.592Z drzigzag009:  I'm just waiting to tie that up. But it has to be tied up correctly in the right smart contract because I want to protect her rights and mine because it's a joint project as a collaboration and that's kind of project I think you were talking about earlier, Steve, to to do stuff together.
2022-10-07T23:48:11.97Z drzigzag009:  But also make sure it has.
2022-10-07T23:48:15.643Z drzigzag009:  Residual income for the artist.
2022-10-07T23:48:17.835Z drzigzag009:  So I'm going to land with that, but.
2022-10-07T23:48:23.72Z drzigzag009:  Your market has to be part of you as you deliver who you are. Your brand has to be you.
2022-10-07T23:48:26.686Z drzigzag009:  We follow.
2022-10-07T23:48:28.448Z drzigzag009:  Cool.
2022-10-07T23:48:39.832Z Blue2black:  Now I see we've got another person here. Doc Matthews isn't you're going giving up. So dog, you wanna introduce yourself in your product.
2022-10-07T23:49:02.77Z Blue2black:  Then I wanna look at that product because obviously it seems to do a couple of different things. And then I wanna ask you like what is your strategy been in order to get it seen? Is it mainly going on spaces or what, what, what have you been using and have you been getting any sales?
2022-10-07T23:49:08.5Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T23:49:12.642Z Doc_maduznft:  Hi everyone. Hello blue.
2022-10-07T23:49:15.038Z Doc_maduznft:  Hello everyone.
2022-10-07T23:49:23.708Z Doc_maduznft:  Well, I'm so glad to be with you guys, please. And I've been listening to a lot of advices and.
2022-10-07T23:49:28.602Z Doc_maduznft:  I'm also working at the same time, so I'm so glad to be in space.
2022-10-07T23:49:43.413Z Doc_maduznft:  So my name is Doc Madu and an 18 year old and a medical student. And I make so the realistic pencil drawings and I incorporate them with I basically.
2022-10-07T23:49:48.478Z Doc_maduznft:  So I just use Adam to share with people my thoughts and beliefs.
2022-10-07T23:49:55.563Z Doc_maduznft:  So that's me and that's who I am. So I think you wanted me to talk about something.
2022-10-07T23:49:58.615Z Doc_maduznft:  Please can you tell me again?
2022-10-07T23:50:06.93Z Doc_maduznft:  Ohh.
2022-10-07T23:50:09.104Z Doc_maduznft:  
2022-10-07T23:50:09.615Z Blue2black:  Yes, yes, I can. So what strategy are you using to get your artwork scene and is that strategy working or have you gotten any sales yet?
2022-10-07T23:50:17.486Z Doc_maduznft:  Ohh okay okay. I understand okay. So basically what I do is.
2022-10-07T23:50:20.277Z Doc_maduznft:  I'm kind of new.
2022-10-07T23:50:37.882Z Doc_maduznft:  But not that kind of new in the space. I think I came here some four months back, but for a while I wasn't really so active. So that's why I still say I'm kind of new. So I'm so far the way I've been doing it is.
2022-10-07T23:50:47.511Z Doc_maduznft:  I attend spaces in the night and during the day I do other stuffs like studying and other things as well so.
2022-10-07T23:50:51.057Z Doc_maduznft:  The strategies are basically uses just.
2022-10-07T23:51:15.895Z Doc_maduznft:  Going to species and I think sharing my ads work, so that's that's what I do. And concerning the sales, well I'm yet to meet my first collector coins and that Genesis piece as well. But I'm so hopeful because a lot of people have been saying they love the peace and and stuff like that. So I'm kind of hopeful about it, yeah.
2022-10-07T23:51:22.828Z Blue2black:  And uh, have you been selling any artworks as any of these or stuff like that yet?
2022-10-07T23:51:55.831Z Blue2black:  I'm sorry you seemed to be rigging the number. I can't hear you anymore. I don't know if anybody else can hear you.
2022-10-07T23:52:08.796Z Blue2black:  It seems like he's rugging his media's rugging. Can anybody hear him?
2022-10-07T23:52:12.454Z LunulaNFTs:  No, can't hear.
2022-10-07T23:52:13.701Z slavakurilyak:  Yeah, he's rugging.
2022-10-07T23:52:16.524Z Blue2black:  OK, so.
2022-10-07T23:51:42.306Z Doc_maduznft:  Okay, I think some weeks back I made my first seal, but that was not on this kind of artwork. That was just on the on the AI piece. So that.
2022-10-07T23:52:45.459Z LunulaNFTs:  Also, I wanted to quickly say sorry. Um, I must go soon. But I will listen to the end of this recording once it's finished later on. And thank you everyone who gave me advice. Thank you, kapier. Thank you, SB, for being here. It's always a pleasure. Thank you, Slava. Thank you, blue. And everybody was in the listener section. I I know many of you have been there for a long, long time. Like Kawasaki. So pleasure.
2022-10-07T23:52:53.04Z LunulaNFTs:  To meet everyone I've met today, thank you for the advice. Have a great night or day wherever you are in the world.
2022-10-07T23:53:17.698Z Blue2black:  And it's been beautiful having a year and you, you, you really have this beautiful kind of character and personality that comes out and you sound like such a beautiful person itself and you have very spiritual kind of high essence artworks.
2022-10-07T23:53:22.012Z Blue2black:  And I wish that the you actually can.
2022-10-07T23:53:50.168Z Blue2black:  Just to realise how amazing of an artist you really are and it essentially it is a problem sometimes being an artist and being the person to really sell the work, that's sometimes very difficult, but nobody knows the artwork quite as well as you, so nobody can actually do the marketing quite as well as you and that's something that's very difficult. It's.
2022-10-07T23:54:01.62Z Blue2black:  It's the same with Kabir, you know, Kabir NFT talk is your baby. You know nobody can sell it quite as well as you. And I mean, you can vouch for that.
2022-10-07T23:54:11.536Z Blue2black:  So, um, I see we've joined back again with Doc and so docs, sorry, just wanna come back to that question there and just ask you again.
2022-10-07T23:54:12.193Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-07T23:54:23.815Z Blue2black:  Like what type of strategy you're using or you just mainly using Twitter spaces? Or how did you get your one cell and why do you think that one cell worked?
2022-10-07T23:54:55.686Z Doc_maduznft:  Okay, um, okay that one till I made. It's actually from a friend because coming into the space initially I was just like promoting my ad, trying to talk about it, but I guess I wasn't getting that a lot of attention. So I got sad and stuff like that. But I think I went for a break. Then coming back I decided to try making friends. So I was making a lot of friends, meeting a lot of people.
2022-10-07T23:55:04.027Z Doc_maduznft:  I was more focused on that relationship. So it was actually that kind of relationship that produced that my first sale.
2022-10-07T23:55:20.128Z Doc_maduznft:  And one of one of my friends as well was like okay because that particular friend, I noticed that he doesn't really come online that often. So I took it upon myself to share his pieces as well. So I did that and overtime.
2022-10-07T23:55:37.879Z Doc_maduznft:  I didn't tell him I was doing but he found out so but overtime he he noticed and then he decided I was going to pick up my piece. So that was that. That's basically how I've I meet those two seals is basically that connection, that friendship that relationship.
2022-10-07T23:55:48.03Z Blue2black:  Now that is one way. Now this is exactly what it's all about. So that one sale that you got from.
2022-10-07T23:55:55.649Z Blue2black:  That customer, you know, that came to your restaurant, the one that bought your food, you know?
2022-10-07T23:55:58.386Z Blue2black:  Was he influenced by marketing?
2022-10-07T23:56:03.273Z Blue2black:  Was he influenced by the relationship that you had with him?
2022-10-07T23:56:34.878Z Doc_maduznft:  Ohh, I think it was influenced by the relationship because I don't our marketing well, I've not really been so good in in that expect because like I said I actually don't attend species in the ninth because in the day I I I can't because of a lot of storms that I'm trying to do. So I just kind of find time in the ninth or ten spaces, a few spaces. Sometimes I end up and running just one space and I may not speak about it.
2022-10-07T23:56:40.663Z Doc_maduznft:  If you should ask me how that sale came about, I think it's more of relationship than the marketing.
2022-10-07T23:57:12.598Z Blue2black:  Now Kabir, you wrote the book on marketing almost um, would you give us a brief, kind of just a brief introduction into marketing just just for the crowd here just so that they kind of know what marketing is because marketing really sounds like something really difficult now. And Slava, you said it earlier that it it by just sharing your work you already marketing it. But Kabir, would you be able to give us a bit of insight into just guidelines?
2022-10-07T23:57:13.979Z Blue2black:  For marketing.
2022-10-07T23:57:23.903Z kabirevoknow:  I think I'm not the right person for for talking about marketing. Slava might be better suited for this question.
2022-10-07T23:57:29.29Z kabirevoknow:  No, I'm.
2022-10-07T23:57:33.35Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-07T23:57:34.635Z Blue2black:  No, I know you are. I know you are. I know you are because you want personal experiences in having to get your products be seen. So.
2022-10-07T23:57:37.088Z Blue2black:  You must have a strategy.
2022-10-07T23:58:00.602Z kabirevoknow:  So I'm I mean I think the that's the you know the sometimes you know if you go there other way like you know if you if you have two roads and you track the less travelled Rd that's a different type of marketing. So I've always done that you know I've never never never sought a customer never in my life never don't did not look for customer did not look for money.
2022-10-07T23:58:05.882Z kabirevoknow:  And both of us, both of which is required to run a business as you know so.
2022-10-07T23:58:37.664Z kabirevoknow:  The the the problem is I don't think that's the norm. The norm is to look for customer build the customer and like I said you know if you if you have an e-mail list that's the golden standard in still is still today and and Steam was talking about direct marketer listen you know that's that's that's the kind of thing that big companies are still doing I mean why do you get Macy's to give you a still send you a coupon when they can you can just download their app and get it they just know that mo
2022-10-07T23:58:51.234Z kabirevoknow:  Coupon and talk to their neighbour when they go, you know, go to the mailbox and they're gonna say ohh yeah look at all this junk and then maybe not this. And then they're talking about this coupon but you don't do that with your app so I would say.
2022-10-07T23:58:58.838Z kabirevoknow:  Marketing for me personally is a is just providing, uh, something that.
2022-10-07T23:59:29.311Z kabirevoknow:  That that people will be attracted to in terms of value and that has been in technology has been information. By providing good quality information about technology, people sought the person who provides that, people always say hey, I know someone who knows this and that's how it works. So word of mouth, but as far as NFT art and you know the artists marketing the marketing, the artwork, that's a challenging thing because the places that.
2022-10-07T23:59:59.332Z kabirevoknow:  We have are just simply you know they're not they're not promoting anything they're not themselves machine to promote art and there is no plan even in the in the their their infrastructure to to tell us who are the best sellers who are The Who you know I mean if you go to if you go to websites if you go want to find out who are the top 100 Amazon best sellers right now the people I'm not talking about the best selling product.
2022-10-08T00:00:29.629Z kabirevoknow:  You would be able to find the 100 best selling Amazon's in a sellers third party sellers that information is available because you know people are collecting that people want to know who are these. So yeah so I think we don't have that infrastructure yet. We don't have the curation of RT yet. We don't know how how to look at art, who is coming up, who is upcoming. There's no magazine. What is the NFT magazine when you need one? Where is the magazine that should cover all of the things that are g
2022-10-08T00:00:59.97Z kabirevoknow:  Left so these are missing so we're a little bit early on many ways I think that that's why it's so hard because you can't be featured. So that's why I would suggest they only marketing that works for nsft art projects is you know make sure people outside the you know the ecosystem knows so get out there build your you know if you can't build a website don't have the funds or interest to manage it go up in a medium publication.
2022-10-08T00:01:29.958Z kabirevoknow:  Just free create create a medium publication or another publication somewhere about art. Anything that you know learn. Share your knowledge. Just like blue is sharing. I mean why are we here. Why are we here hanging out in this room you know while we're doing other things we're listening and whenever he calls we all of us you know are responding because we know he's providing a value and the value is he's is is attracting lots of people to learn things.
2022-10-08T00:02:00.112Z kabirevoknow:  That's so why did I learn this. I learned it Blues room. I learned it in that space. People remember that so I would I would just urge that information is so available but doesn't mean people understand it. So package it, provide it to your community, add value to them and they would just simply count you know come For more information is the only product that all of us can sell. Sell us in share and as we do this we are acting as a curator of information and.
2022-10-08T00:02:30.334Z kabirevoknow:  People, you should always do this in your field. I, I would only do this with technology. I would not be doing this with, you know, things that I don't know. I would not do medical technology. I don't know anything about it. So if you're an artist, find that niche, you know, share information. That's going to be a default marketing for you because people would flock to that information. And then, you know, then they will say who did I get it from and what value I can get. I mean they should feel
2022-10-08T00:02:41.113Z kabirevoknow:  I really don't see a very fast track method for it. It's a long process, but you know those of us you know who have tried the long process.
2022-10-08T00:03:12.097Z kabirevoknow:  Actually are standing and those who just simply will come. When the time good time comes, you will make it. The good time comes. Everybody's going to come, the big machines are going to come, the big machines will flock and they would come and take the lead, lead always. But if you built it for a long time and have a try, we have 100 people following you, hundred, 200 people following you and 200 people care about you. You will find Super fans, super fans and super fans are the ones that we have
2022-10-08T00:03:41.761Z kabirevoknow:  Nft talk. Did I pay him? Did I talk about please talk about my project? No, we are all adding values to each other and that is how you build it. I mean just share. Don't be shy. And if you have if you have problems speaking. You know I used to think you won't believe it. How many times I spoke to myself in the car during the COVID period because I just wanted to speak and listen to myself and I never liked it and never, never liked.
2022-10-08T00:03:50.083Z kabirevoknow:  Hearing myself so because, you know, it's just with an accent, I'm like, I don't know if I want to go talk to people, but then I realise, you know what?
2022-10-08T00:04:20.84Z kabirevoknow:  Give a damn. Because if I don't if if if they don't like it they will move away and only people who would care about how I speak because and you know what I provide is gonna stick around so that's fine so I made my made my peace with my you know my way of speaking and and then I found people like Tim Brown who learned teaches you how to speak and and and blam can talk about it these there are folks that can help you if you are shy and if you are not.
2022-10-08T00:04:33.556Z kabirevoknow:  Able to go out and talk in public. We are in a room of, I don't know, a dozen people and all of us from different places. Canada, in Jamaica are sorry. In New York and in South Africa to everywhere.
2022-10-08T00:04:48.929Z kabirevoknow:  We're all talking New Zealand, we're talking from all over the place. We we seem to understand each other. So information is is so easy to package if you can just package information.
2022-10-08T00:05:19.773Z kabirevoknow:  And share it with others. You would look good and if they get value from that they would start listening to your project. Like how how do you, what are you? What brings you here? What do you do? How do you know this? And then you can talk. You have a channel to start a conversation. Why do people talk about sports? You know in the morning when they come into a meeting, that's a common bond. That's a common thing they can do. They can share ohh that that game was awful or this thing that they spe
2022-10-08T00:05:50.401Z kabirevoknow:  And then the switch to business mode and talk about this, it makes it easy. So for here for spaces if you learn if you are following the web three and if you're following the NFT just share the information and put your two cents. Not just not just oh, I just read this and that's it. No, you just put your two cents. You may be wrong. You may be right. Nobody, nobody you will get it right eventually. So I think my strategy would be always provide good information to public and the people that you 
2022-10-08T00:06:04.58Z kabirevoknow:  They will ask you, they will inquire about your work, and then they would want to engage you. And if they don't, you you probably are in the wrong crowd. That's really, you know, I all I have. I don't have a really big marketing strategy.
2022-10-08T00:06:12.222Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:06:16.005Z Blue2black:  Doctor Zig Zag, you have something to add there?
2022-10-08T00:06:20.41Z drzigzag009:  I had to. I had to concur. I concur.
2022-10-08T00:06:30.467Z drzigzag009:  But I think one of the one of the public speakers I had was say, who are you and what do you want?
2022-10-08T00:06:32.545Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:06:42.637Z drzigzag009:  And how is it going to change the universe where we're in a new marketing era of NFT Web three and they don't know what the standard is. That's why these big companies are not here.
2022-10-08T00:06:48.106Z drzigzag009:  And as we develop it and show them how to market, how to tell a story.
2022-10-08T00:06:55.122Z drzigzag009:  How to develop a product line that you have that you might be working on for a bit a good amount of time?
2022-10-08T00:07:06.057Z drzigzag009:  And so now you want to release your brand in a marketplace to get the best revenue for it. So the best way to do that is to tell a story, but if you have.
2022-10-08T00:07:08.328Z drzigzag009:  If you're not ready to do that.
2022-10-08T00:07:15.204Z drzigzag009:  Be an artist and be on other media projects like media. You can drop little.
2022-10-08T00:07:34.078Z drzigzag009:  Illustration lines about your work, about other things. You have to continue to be published and be relevant in the marketplace to say, hey, I got stuff all over the place here, just research the name and you'll pop up in multiple places because you're you're now publishing.
2022-10-08T00:07:41.661Z drzigzag009:  And and you're getting noticed in these fields of a new marketplace of Web 3.
2022-10-08T00:07:44.361Z drzigzag009:  Because it is so new.
2022-10-08T00:07:47.751Z drzigzag009:  You you can take advantage of that.
2022-10-08T00:07:57.017Z drzigzag009:  And be on equal footing as a Nike if that's what you want to do, you know, play with it. I'll compete with if you're doing footwear.
2022-10-08T00:07:59.375Z drzigzag009:  But as a designer.
2022-10-08T00:08:06.2Z drzigzag009:  You you choose when to release your artwork, but have that story to go wrong with it and mark it.
2022-10-08T00:08:33.499Z drzigzag009:  Around that because you can, you can, you can make a good splash and you can get a nice wave and you could surf that as long as you want to take it if you brand yourself correctly. And I think everybody's kind of saying the same thing, but because it's so new market, no one knows how to implement yet. And I think there's going to be some new things coming out next year because the markets already have a shift.
2022-10-08T00:08:37.161Z drzigzag009:  Or shift, which gonna be another wave of technology.
2022-10-08T00:08:42.095Z drzigzag009:  That we have to ride out. So how we ride this next shift is going to really.
2022-10-08T00:08:46.133Z drzigzag009:  Okay, how's it going to go? I'm gonna go back to you, blue.
2022-10-08T00:09:11.261Z Blue2black:  Yeah. Now just coming back to Kabir Day quickly. I'm Kabir. You're damn right you haven't actually told us about anybody talk and that is your product. So why don't you tell us about your product and tell us about the strategy that you've used so far. I know you say that you're not really sharing the project as much and all these type of things.
2022-10-08T00:09:12.954Z Blue2black:  But you tell us.
2022-10-08T00:09:14.411Z drzigzag009:  Okay, well, she she was not time.
2022-10-08T00:09:17.027Z drzigzag009:  
2022-10-08T00:09:21.811Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:09:30.617Z Blue2black:  Hi. Yeah, Kabir, can you hear me?
2022-10-08T00:09:37.63Z kabirevoknow:  Yeah, I can hear you. I was not sure what was the. What is the? Is that the new?
2022-10-08T00:09:47.118Z Blue2black:  I say, I say that, yeah, Kabir. So actually I haven't. You haven't actually told us about your project. You haven't actually told us about NFD talk.
2022-10-08T00:10:00.753Z Blue2black:  And that is your baby. That is your product. So actually you should do that. We should get know you by that, by that association. So it is actually time for you to talk about that and why don't you?
2022-10-08T00:10:31.71Z kabirevoknow:  Well, sure. I mean and if you talk it's been out there for eight months, it's it's it's a teaser project. It's a it's a project that shows you what's possible. What it does is it looks at all of the Twitter spaces that uses the NFT hash tag and few other like Web 3 hash tag and analyses them, looks at who is in there in terms of speaker and host and gamifies that meaning for speakers and hosts. It says is the speaker speaking for few minutes.
2022-10-08T00:11:01.832Z kabirevoknow:  For few hours, is the host allowing the speaker to speak just a short burst or is the host accommodating the room as a really really host and and allowing people to speak like this. In this case for example blue, you would be considered a significantly good host because you are allowing so many people to speak. In some rooms the hosts don't, they just talk and they just let you ask a question and then just go on to their own thing. So we developed an algorithm that we are actually.
2022-10-08T00:11:32.749Z kabirevoknow:  Going to patent that algorithm, it's all it does is it looks at time spent in in spaces like how are you spending your time in these spaces an are you being a good host are you being an effective speaker by you know if you're just asking one question and you know like in in terms of like the number of times time amount is spent it eventually figures out that you are spending time and people are listening because when you are going around it's creating network. These network is.
2022-10-08T00:11:42.175Z kabirevoknow:  They're just basically fluid network that's for you and your the people around you is is part of that we we think that we know that you are being.
2022-10-08T00:12:12.97Z kabirevoknow:  We don't have to know if you are actually singing or if you're actually speaking in whatever language. It doesn't matter to us when we know that people are flocking to you, people are understanding you, some people are, and that network is how we value that, that we have a wait for you. So using a fairly complicated algorithm, we we figured out that if we can, if we can value people's time and tell tell the world that these person is spending so much time on spaces building the ecosystem of NFT.
2022-10-08T00:12:43.263Z kabirevoknow:  For their own purposes or for the purpose of the others, it doesn't matter. We cannot go into analysing that. We are simply looking at this person is engaging others and other people are engaging them and that the time spent is being calculated and then based on that we scored the individuals and allow them to allow them to basically get rated as on an FT scale or like just like an NFT you have a common uncommon, you know you have legendary epic and such, we just gamify that.
2022-10-08T00:13:14.09Z kabirevoknow:  And we also give them a inept token that allows them to enable features and function in our system. For example, this place is recorded right now because it has the hash tag left. The NFT talk has picked this up and now what the blue can do, and I can do because I spoke or anybody who spoke here can go to their NFT talk account which is free. You just claim it and you get it. There is no charge. You claim and I can go there and say I want to get an audio for this. You click on a request and it w
2022-10-08T00:13:44.157Z kabirevoknow:  The A/C and the OG files for you free of charge. Try that. Just go on Google, say how to get MP3 for my Twitter spaces. You will find companies that are charging from dollars to $5 to service subscriptions to give you that. We give you that free. In addition, if Twitter is on the right side today, they will also allow us to pull the captions and that is the transcript which is very good to search. So you will see on our site and.
2022-10-08T00:14:14.224Z kabirevoknow:  Archive has a lot lost hundreds of hundreds of spaces that have been that transcripts of that space. So if you never even if you miss something and you don't want to listen to the whole audio because you just want to search. You can search the transcript and say when did Blue said this, when did somebody mention this. So you can find that you can download that you can take it with you audio and transcripts. You can have that for your own research purposes. So these are these are functions that w
2022-10-08T00:14:44.506Z kabirevoknow:  Because this whole thing is connected to Twitter, I believe that's the wrong model. I believe that the ultimate model for social audio would be everybody should be able to create their own community without a centralised entity like Twitter or Facebook or any other social media. You, when you open a discord server, you are adjusted database record. In discord, you are nothing but a database entry. That's it. Your discord server is just a line, one single row that says Kabir opened the discord se
2022-10-08T00:15:15.12Z kabirevoknow:  And here is how many people are in there and a bunch of records gets created. That's it. You don't really have a server, you cannot take it with you. You are owned and operated by them. Same thing with Twitter spaces. We need to change that. If we can have an open source platform that you can just create your community and you can just connect to any other community at will based on your agreement with the other community. We have not decentralised, but we have definitely take a stab at the dece
2022-10-08T00:15:46.337Z kabirevoknow:  Where we own our own communities, meaning if I created a community of 500 tagged people that follow me or want to talk to me or want to be part of me, I should be able to do that and not have any other terms and condition affect that relationship. Then if I want to connect that community to Blues community of art and curation and all the all the things blue is about, I should be able to connect it. If blue and I agree on appearing agreement, that's what I want to be. I want to be an open source 
2022-10-08T00:15:51.155Z kabirevoknow:  Our communities and we get to own the data. We get to have every single thing about it.
2022-10-08T00:16:03.897Z kabirevoknow:  By that community, for the community right now it's not possible. So we are saying showing the analytics, the, the discovery, all the tools we are showing right now we are saying this is possible even with centralised imagine.
2022-10-08T00:16:26.069Z kabirevoknow:  Imagine how it would be if if you could, if you could have this all this all your own and did not need to rely on anyone. An example would be if you wanted to create a website. Most people would go with WordPress, which is I don't recommend it, but most people would go with WordPress which allows you to create a very nice content management system and simply plugins and such and it has been very popular.
2022-10-08T00:16:25.801Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T00:16:56.747Z kabirevoknow:  Now imagine a social audio of 1 plus. You should be able to create your own social audio platform and then own and operate everything about it for your community. If you can do that, we are in a different level. We cannot be stopped. All these communities will be separated and connected only if they want to. So there will be marketplaces, plugins, all kind of, you know, ecosystem will get created to support that infrastructure, which is to be completely different than what Twitter is, which is d
2022-10-08T00:17:26.687Z kabirevoknow:  And, and we know what what happens when companies have this kind of power. We are grateful that Twitter is allowing us to be here. But we have to say that we are grateful to. Does Twitter respond to every request we have? No, they don't have to because that's a commercial company. But if it was an open source platform, somebody would get mad with about something not working and change it and then they will push that change for everybody else to get it. That's the whole idea of open source. It ha
2022-10-08T00:17:57.258Z kabirevoknow:  Linux has changed the world. And, you know, a lot of people don't know who invented Linux. The guy's name is Linus Torvalds. He lives in Oregon. He's a Finnish guy. We brought him here in the US and he's one of the best. You know, people should be getting a Nobel Prize for reducing the digital divide in the world, and but he won't because he doesn't care for it. And he invented another piece of software called Git, which runs the entire world's software management. You know, you don't have a sin
2022-10-08T00:18:27.889Z kabirevoknow:  Get GIT, he created that too. Then it doesn't doesn't take a single dime for it. So these these kind of you know when you have people like this creating underlying technology. I am asking where is the Community infrastructure because we don't have one. These companies own US. These companies have the control we need to change that. And NFT talk is just the teaser, just the starting point. I am trying to convince you to see the data that we provide. Your data is your data.
2022-10-08T00:18:57.766Z kabirevoknow:  That Twitter has us, you know, position and show you and we're showing you that look, you're spending this much time, you're doing this you, you rank here because in in in these things. So we're giving you the taste of it. And if you like it, imagine what will happen when you have the whole thing to yourself. That is not what we are doing right now. We are actually just, you know, showcasing the power that can be and it is, it is. It is. And we have about 200,000 speakers and hosts in our system
2022-10-08T00:19:27.943Z kabirevoknow:  For last eight months and we are tracking all of them. Just on NFD we're opening up for sports, music and other other categories and we think it's going to be great because those folks are going to find an EFT as well when they use our system. We're going to tell them do you know if you like sports talk, would you like to come checkout NFT talk where people are talking about NFT, they will say what is nft and they will come and then these things will happen. But you know across the platform. So 
2022-10-08T00:19:58.319Z kabirevoknow:  Individual, you know, individuals who have communities and right now it's not possible. Right now you cannot create a audio platform, social audio platform on your own. It's not about impossible, the cost and the technology involved. So that's why you only see clubhouse this where you see Twitter spaces, that's why you see LinkedIn, you know this way see the big companies doing it. But it can be, it can be done as an open source product project. So our goal is to go towards that.
2022-10-08T00:20:25.174Z kabirevoknow:  And you know right now we're providing value with the existing I mean we're, we're we're not we're engineers, we're realistic. We're we know in order to go there we have to first walk the walk talk the talk and show you that look at your own data. This is what public data looks like from Twitter and this is how we present it to you for your benefit and if you like it I'm I'm sure you're going to like when you own everything and so that's kind of a that's kind of what I do.
2022-10-08T00:20:29.331Z kabirevoknow:  As for NFC talk and others?
2022-10-08T00:21:02.342Z Blue2black:  Yeah, no. So any of you's, uh, any of you speakers here, if you don't know this already by just being in this space, you are already being crawled under profile is being created for you. You simply go to NFD talk dot space and you search, use your own Twitter handle and you will actually show up and then you can claim your own account and you can just kind of continue just kind of monitoring yourself. And so I've also seen that you can now schedule.
2022-10-08T00:21:12.734Z Blue2black:  Spices on any of these by spice. So tell me about that. Can that actually reflect on Twitter or is it not? Is it irrelevant or Twitter?
2022-10-08T00:21:30.72Z Blue2black:  Eyes here.
2022-10-08T00:21:40.741Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:21:44.159Z kabirevoknow:  Uh, no, actually you cannot schedule uh you schedule it on on Twitter and then Twitter publishes the schedule. So it is all, all Twitter stuff is based on Twitter. What we are saying is you can tell people you have a schedule. You can tell people you have a schedule. So you can say I am available from 2:00 o'clock to 4:00 o'clock on Sundays and Mondays so that people on your profile know when you are likely to be available and and of course when you're alive and if you're using the hash right.
2022-10-08T00:21:54.07Z kabirevoknow:  Hashtags like NFT and and and web three and such, it'll it'll track you so it'll it'll show them there. But yeah, we we don't we don't actually schedule it for you.
2022-10-08T00:22:04.397Z Blue2black:  Now we've got this with the woman. You're right next to you and we've got the manual and we've got.
2022-10-08T00:22:11.224Z Blue2black:  And then we've got this another, just this, another interesting person duck.
2022-10-08T00:22:14.312Z Blue2black:  Buddies. So.
2022-10-08T00:22:40.257Z Blue2black:  Let's start with um. Let me just kind of refresh the room there a little bit and just get everybody on power, what we're talking about. So we're talking about basically marketing, your strategy of marketing and has it really been working for you. So what is your product kind of, you know, introduce us to you as an artist and then kind of tell us about?
2022-10-08T00:22:40.411Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:23:00.898Z Blue2black:  More story in terms of marketing, are you getting any, any results and what results are working so that we can take the take what's working and see if we can apply that to everybody else so that these tips and advice and suggestions or whatever you want to call it can actually have an impact.
2022-10-08T00:23:01.142Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:23:10.253Z Blue2black:  Now starting here with um, wait, three women. I know you do really awesome stuff. And I've been talking to you a bit and.
2022-10-08T00:23:17.808Z Blue2black:  You know, it's a very interesting journey. You know what you're representing and you're representing quite a lot and.
2022-10-08T00:23:28.394Z Blue2black:  You're also quite, quite busy with the space hosting and so forth. So kind of tell us about your product, tell us about what you do and how you do it and.
2022-10-08T00:23:38.163Z Blue2black:  Then get to the strategy of what you are doing in terms of marketing and do you think it's working and do you think others can follow that same recipe?
2022-10-08T00:23:42.918Z Web3WomenCommun:  Hey, yeah, this is Christopher. How you all doing?
2022-10-08T00:23:56.435Z Web3WomenCommun:  I went through women is Christopher and Shannon. Actually, it's Shannon and Christopher Shannon's cooking dinner. So I'm on spaces. And you know, I came over because SB has highly recommended you.
2022-10-08T00:24:06.369Z Web3WomenCommun:  And I was just fascinated with your talk from this gentleman who was just speaking. I'm, I apologise, I can't pronounce your name. KB IR.
2022-10-08T00:24:08.327Z Web3WomenCommun:  You were talking about.
2022-10-08T00:24:22.728Z Web3WomenCommun:  I kind of got in on the tail end of it, but I do wanna follow up and see if what you were talking about um searching your name on Twitter or on Google and searching your handle on Twitter. Anyway, I want to hear more about that, but.
2022-10-08T00:24:31.888Z Web3WomenCommun:  Thank you, blue. I just this is the first time I think we've met. So I want to say hello to you and and thank you for introducing me.
2022-10-08T00:24:39.466Z Web3WomenCommun:  So web three women has been leaning into spaces, and I have to admit that.
2022-10-08T00:24:43.39Z Web3WomenCommun:  We are looking to go beyond spaces.
2022-10-08T00:24:45.26Z Web3WomenCommun:  And um.
2022-10-08T00:24:50.734Z Web3WomenCommun:  It's been, you know, it's a difficult situation, you know, where do you go next, right?
2022-10-08T00:24:53.381Z Web3WomenCommun:  What do you build next?
2022-10-08T00:24:57.768Z Web3WomenCommun:  What do you lean into next? Where? Where are your customers?
2022-10-08T00:25:01.426Z Web3WomenCommun:  Where are they now? Where we're not seeking them out?
2022-10-08T00:25:15.822Z Web3WomenCommun:  So we feel like we've got a handle on spaces. We have these really organic spaces, 2 * a week blue, they're on Wednesdays and they're on Saturdays and we're actually doing one tomorrow on for photographers. We're just taking the chance and.
2022-10-08T00:25:20.81Z Web3WomenCommun:  Leaning into photography with trilanga tomorrow at 11:00 o'clock, by the way.
2022-10-08T00:25:22.941Z Web3WomenCommun:  And so.
2022-10-08T00:25:32.124Z Web3WomenCommun:  I would say, you know, we're not experts, but we are very passionate and we are very aggressive as far as getting involved.
2022-10-08T00:25:48.388Z Web3WomenCommun:  We've leaned into spaces very heavily with the help of um. We had actually a extraordinary September with SB1111. She's been a wonderful host doing these fantastic subconscious mind.
2022-10-08T00:25:49.676Z Web3WomenCommun:  Um.
2022-10-08T00:26:17.888Z Web3WomenCommun:  Spaces, you know, I'll tell you one thing that I would give advice was, you know, everybody was telling us to do this and do that. And what it came down to was they're all so not not to, not to swear, but they're all full of shit, to be perfectly honest with you. Advisors, consultants, they don't know God damn thing when it comes to this, to this space. You know what, what it came down to was we had two.
2022-10-08T00:26:23.835Z Web3WomenCommun:  Lean into what our real purpose was and what we really felt.
2022-10-08T00:26:38.518Z Web3WomenCommun:  We wanted to do in our hearts, and part of that was we wanted to do a space on the subconscious mind. It's part of our project, it's part of our philosophy. We we, we're meditators.
2022-10-08T00:27:01.501Z Web3WomenCommun:  And and we wanted to spread that and we were like, well, is anybody going to get it? Does anybody care? And we thought, well, you know, we're just going to try because it's something we're passionate about, something we can do without even thinking about it because we've been studying it for so long. And so that's a little bit of advice I would give, which would be do something that you believe in.
2022-10-08T00:27:07.618Z Web3WomenCommun:  Especially in a space, it'll make you stand out in a way that.
2022-10-08T00:27:19.21Z Web3WomenCommun:  Is, um, authentic and, and I think that's a really good piece of advice. You know we've seen the spaces and I don't have anything against spaces where people come up and.
2022-10-08T00:27:28.151Z Web3WomenCommun:  They do a quote UN quote shield space and they bring them through and they kind of bring them through fast and people waited long lines and you know.
2022-10-08T00:27:37.835Z Web3WomenCommun:  It's just not us, so it's not what we're interested in when we do spaces where we have artists who are sharing blue we.
2022-10-08T00:28:04.079Z Web3WomenCommun:  We give them a lot of time. We give them, I mean we have spent 45 minutes, we spent 45 minutes with the heist before they were anybody before, you know, now they were a really big impressive project. But you know, we spent 45 minutes with them and let them wind it out, tell us what's going on. We have people in the panel who are chiming in or are telling are saying things about their bio. So.
2022-10-08T00:28:04.872Z Web3WomenCommun:  
2022-10-08T00:28:16.5Z Web3WomenCommun:  What are we doing? We're doing spaces. Do we know where we're going next? Well, we're looking for where what's next? Is it tick tock? Is it YouTube? Is it Instagram? Should it be all the above?
2022-10-08T00:28:26.162Z Web3WomenCommun:  I really don't know to be honest with you, because as you know, as creators, as founders, we have to be very careful with.
2022-10-08T00:28:56.417Z Web3WomenCommun:  What are with our bandwidth right guys we we can't do everything nor should we we we want to do the things that are powerful for us and they're powerful for our community. And and I was you know I was really loving the conversation with the gentleman about taking your community to different platforms. I I was kind of thinking about that when when you when you called me up and that's why I really wasn't prepared to talk about what we're up to when we're doing but you know it's it's something.
2022-10-08T00:29:27.349Z Web3WomenCommun:  Should be revisited almost on a weekly or semi weekly basis in terms of where you're going next and what you're going to do. I I don't like all these social media networks. You know, it's a lot of it's, it's a lot of work. But beyond that it can be fragmenting to your mind. So there's a good to it and there's a bad to it. So anyway, that's where we are. We're still learning, we're trying to remain authentic in our space, giving in our space.
2022-10-08T00:29:30.715Z Web3WomenCommun:  We're trying to remain, you know, um.
2022-10-08T00:30:00.939Z Web3WomenCommun:  Trying to remain, you know, um, like I said, authentic in our space and doing a space that's really honest to us and and it seems to be working out so far. But you know we're open to suggestions on, on what the next thing is. But, but we are actually also becoming like an incubator for other artists, right. So other artists who are doing other projects who are are bringing their art up and so we're trying to lift those people up especially in South Asia.
2022-10-08T00:30:02.896Z Web3WomenCommun:  And um.
2022-10-08T00:30:11.959Z Web3WomenCommun:  Yeah, that's what we're doing right now. And um, but I I want to say hello with blue and would would love to learn more about what you're up to.
2022-10-08T00:30:21.446Z Blue2black:  Well, I'm up to a lot, but yeah, I like you say, in the end of the day it's.
2022-10-08T00:30:22.147Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:30:53.495Z Blue2black:  I bring myself into the project by incorporating the when art is the voice hash tag into the spaces. And that's kind of more or less what I do. But yes, when art is a voice is about giving voice to society, it's about the voice of art. It's it's about kind of like just knowing that we are the underground. I know that. I know that we are not the telegram or.
2022-10-08T00:31:15.562Z Blue2black:  Or the Huffington Post or the New York Times or, you know, the Times Magazine. I know that. So I know we haven't got 2000 people tuning into this space. I know that we haven't got a, you know, 100,000 people looking at a timeline. So how do you compete against that? How do you beat the system? You know, that's kind of like.
2022-10-08T00:31:27.582Z Blue2black:  My my kind of angle I I know enough to not want to try. So my my approach is basically just trying to make history.
2022-10-08T00:31:32.023Z Blue2black:  Blind and simple and I will, but how I do it?
2022-10-08T00:31:40.124Z Blue2black:  That's my strategy. But yeah, my product is a service and my service is a product, so.
2022-10-08T00:31:52.162Z Blue2black:  It's a little bit difficult, but coming back to you, how, how are you actually managing to empower women through through all this?
2022-10-08T00:32:03.063Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:32:13.684Z Web3WomenCommun:  Well, that's easy. We, we see women come into our spaces on an individual basis. You know, when you spend time with with one or two women in a space and you, you see them make progress, a lot of folks won't take that time and we do that naturally in our space.
2022-10-08T00:32:17.684Z Web3WomenCommun:  One of them has been someone named tree Lana, who has made.
2022-10-08T00:32:25.899Z Web3WomenCommun:  She admits to making this wonderful progress just by being able to be in our community to talk.
2022-10-08T00:32:43.105Z Web3WomenCommun:  To to work things out. And now she's, you know, publishing her own photography. And so we do it on an individual basis. We do it on a on a kind of on a on the battlefield one at a time. And then we also do it by.
2022-10-08T00:32:58.459Z Web3WomenCommun:  Retweeting and engaging with art that we like. You know, we met an artist called Danny DN I. She comes up that way on Twitter and she won a couple of awards.
2022-10-08T00:33:09.503Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:33:20.604Z Web3WomenCommun:  She had that chronic illness. She still has a chronic illness. And and we did it one of our first interviews on our spaces with her. She's a little shy, but she has this really beautiful art, you know. And so we kind of pushed her along on our space and we encouraged her to come on up. We took a couple of it took a couple of times to to get her on the show and.
2022-10-08T00:33:27.009Z Web3WomenCommun:  You know, she was a big hit because her art is so wonderful, but she struggles with some things, you know, so.
2022-10-08T00:33:37.043Z Web3WomenCommun:  That's the way you do it. You know, we have Shannon and I who run this, this, this, this platform web three women we have.
2022-10-08T00:33:46.273Z Web3WomenCommun:  We have daughters and it's easy for us to be like. How do we want to see women treated?
2022-10-08T00:34:02.297Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:34:05.692Z Web3WomenCommun:  You know what things are going on that we get reports back from our kids that are going on that we want to see changed, right? So we do it individually in spaces. We do it with people who have projects, you know, and we also do it in another way.
2022-10-08T00:34:08.466Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:34:08.029Z Web3WomenCommun:  Which is we stand up.
2022-10-08T00:34:11.146Z Web3WomenCommun:  Bullshit.
2022-10-08T00:34:25.551Z Web3WomenCommun:  And that may be surprising to hear from us, but we hear bullshit all the time. This space is not full of angels all the time. There are those in the space who deserve our.
2022-10-08T00:34:28.86Z Web3WomenCommun:  What can we say?
2022-10-08T00:35:00.241Z Web3WomenCommun:  They're very aggressive, they're very entitled and they may be women and they may be men and they deserve to be put down and they deserve to be put in their place in this space. And I think that's a huge part also going forward because there are those who are mischievous in this space who take advantage of this women empowerment label. They take it, they wear it and then they abuse it. I can say this as a man because we've been subject to this.
2022-10-08T00:35:05.643Z Web3WomenCommun:  In our particular platform and it's very important.
2022-10-08T00:35:21.771Z Web3WomenCommun:  To not let that pass. So that's more of a dark part of it, but it's extremely important for people to stand up when people are being mischievous, mischievous in this space. You know, we also are very.
2022-10-08T00:35:28.274Z Web3WomenCommun:  Supportive of people like Emmanuel, who's got her hand, his hand up. He's a man.
2022-10-08T00:35:32.596Z Web3WomenCommun:  Who's supporting women projects believe it's.
2022-10-08T00:35:57.258Z Web3WomenCommun:  I forget the name of that big rise. I apologize, Emmanuel. So we support women's projects not just because they're women's projects, but because they're good women's projects. The thought out well, they have a great plan, they have great execution and that's the way we support women's empowerment in our space.
2022-10-08T00:36:00.434Z slavakurilyak:  Go ahead and manual.
2022-10-08T00:36:21.72Z ImmanuelNFT:  OK. So I just want to thank you for that. I'm shut out. So I want to just talk about what were three women was talking about. So I want to tell everybody a reason why we need to all come together to support onboarding women into this space.
2022-10-08T00:36:37.452Z ImmanuelNFT:  I mean block research, I mean did research about this whole NFT space and the results was like we have only 16% women creators in this space.
2022-10-08T00:36:43.315Z ImmanuelNFT:  So this space is flooded with 84% men creators.
2022-10-08T00:36:45.37Z ImmanuelNFT:  And and so you see.
2022-10-08T00:36:59.693Z ImmanuelNFT:  There is a reason to support women on boarding into this space, and my heart goes out so, so, so hard to work through women. I mean, this is a project that is really.
2022-10-08T00:37:18.895Z ImmanuelNFT:  Helping a lot of women in this space and on boarding. And I'm telling you the project I'm supporting because rising FTS, we've had enormous support from what, three women. So I mean, I just want to give you. I mean Tom's up, kudos and much love.
2022-10-08T00:37:32.577Z slavakurilyak:  Grace, I wanted to follow up what based on what you said before, you mentioned that you and Shannon are considering.
2022-10-08T00:37:44.285Z slavakurilyak:  All marketing options you talked about going beyond spaces. I really appreciate that. I'm curious have you considered multi streaming for your marketing?
2022-10-08T00:37:48.846Z Web3WomenCommun:  This brings up a good point.
2022-10-08T00:37:51.712Z Web3WomenCommun:  Which is, um, what is multi streaming?
2022-10-08T00:38:25.518Z slavakurilyak:  Yeah, I can. I can definitely chain in here and I think a simple way to think of it would be if you were to talk on Twitter spaces and on let's say YouTube at the same time. That's a simple example. But I'm sure that there are kind of different ways to interpret it. You do have the power to multi stream to multiple platforms at once. However, there are some limitations when it comes to Twitter spaces specifically.
2022-10-08T00:38:55.79Z slavakurilyak:  Due to how they build their infrastructure and actually just decide nodes, I did ask the Twitter engineers to see if they would consider opening up their infrastructure to allow people to do what I'm describing, multi streaming so that people can multi stream on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter space at the same time. It's not in their role plan yet, but Twitter does have a video streaming component. I don't know if many people familiar with that so you can.
2022-10-08T00:39:00.997Z slavakurilyak:  Essentially stream video on Twitter and so.
2022-10-08T00:39:09.835Z slavakurilyak:  The kind of the implementation would be that you are streaming on, let's say YouTube and Twitter, just not Twitter spaces.
2022-10-08T00:39:20.941Z Blue2black:  Now slowly. Do you remember back in the day you told me to tokenise everything? Do you remember that?
2022-10-08T00:39:26.264Z slavakurilyak:  Ohh yeah I think everything should be tokenised, but that's a great discussion to have.
2022-10-08T00:39:58.804Z Blue2black:  Yeah, so I actually went on to send pages on the blockchain, um, send pages is send dot COCEN dot Co and what they do is they can enable me now to to actually tokenise these audio clips of the spaces. So I'm still kind of looking into it, but yes, I've already opened the, I've like already contacted them and I already opened the profile.
2022-10-08T00:40:26.599Z Blue2black:  The main thing is just now taking this step and actually downloading the recording and then putting it available on send dot Co. But yeah that is another way of just kind of backing you up there and saying that you know you can actually tokenise the audio files and that will whole thing came from basically the two of you standing next to each other cabiran Slava in how you.
2022-10-08T00:40:43.69Z Blue2black:  Broadened orizon of this NFT talk and how this technology in your advice in tokenising it, I'm just kinda using it and it's kind of falling into you there with three women because I recommend you doing the same.
2022-10-08T00:40:44.112Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:41:13.967Z Blue2black:  It it brings it, not only does it kind of leave the leave it on the blockchain, it also, you know considering that you're that that you are now automatically on NFT talk and the fact that you know they can be transcribed so you can actually have a like a text file about the space. You can have the audio file and now you can have a token. So think about it. You know there's many ways to skin a cat.
2022-10-08T00:41:18.361Z Blue2black:  But yeah, it's a wonderful projects that you're working on there and.
2022-10-08T00:41:37.973Z Blue2black:  Yeah. I like the fact that you also giving, you know, a little bit more in depth in a character to the artist instead of, you know, just the average shilling and get your time done and, you know, come back in a moment and I see Kayden is here. Kayden, sorry to see that you went down again. I'll get you back up.
2022-10-08T00:42:12.696Z Blue2black:  Couldn't. And Emmanuel, I wanna come back to you now. Please tell us about yourself, about your product and then just kind of refreshing the room again, the main topic here is really we've been kind of going in about marketing and kind of marketing strategies is really the core of the conversation. So it's really about telling us what you are doing and whether it's working and it's not really about your style of sharing.
2022-10-08T00:42:30.452Z Blue2black:  For work or stuff like this, this really is the strategy. You know, do you have a plan, do you have a strategy that you are following? And you know is that strategy working for you or should we maybe intervene and kind of and analyse your strategy and see if you need any help?
2022-10-08T00:42:51.861Z ImmanuelNFT:  Okay, thanks. I'll blue black. Thanks so much for the opportunity to come in to share my thoughts on the topic. So I started this whole NFT stuff. I think beginning of this year I decided to go into NFT.
2022-10-08T00:42:53.349Z ImmanuelNFT:  So.
2022-10-08T00:42:55.837Z ImmanuelNFT:  For myself.
2022-10-08T00:42:58.439Z ImmanuelNFT:  From the start it has been.
2022-10-08T00:43:05.718Z ImmanuelNFT:  Really about support. I don't know how that works for me though, so I'm just gonna paint this up.
2022-10-08T00:43:08.578Z ImmanuelNFT:  Of a giveaway that somebody gave me today.
2022-10-08T00:43:22.293Z ImmanuelNFT:  And the president just I I hosted a space Mr GI don't know if some of you know him and he he just came into this space and seeing the support I give to everybody said hey Emmanuel.
2022-10-08T00:43:44.983Z ImmanuelNFT:  Give me your e-mail address. I gave it and he sent me some Earth and he sent me. I'm in a Chris Gray. I'm music and left and it's like jumped into my DM and it was like, I just felt like gifting you this disease and this nft just, I mean the support you give to the community is enormous. So one thing that I have.
2022-10-08T00:44:07.541Z ImmanuelNFT:  Really helped me to to to to be so successful in marketing is support for me is support. So most of the times I've I have friends who look at my followers like not even up to 2000 but I host spaces and it's blowing up and it's like hey how how do you do it.
2022-10-08T00:44:09.82Z ImmanuelNFT:  For me it's support.
2022-10-08T00:44:20.29Z ImmanuelNFT:  Every project I talk about, people think Ohh Emmanuel is talking about that. Emanuel's watching about sporting desktop. Cool. Then let's go check it out.
2022-10-08T00:44:30.772Z ImmanuelNFT:  So for its support and honesty, I've build a whole network around myself. If it's red, I'm going to tell you it's red, if it's blue, it's blue, if it's black, it's black.
2022-10-08T00:45:03.145Z ImmanuelNFT:  I think being transparent goes a long way to helping you to be so successful in marketing. Be transparent, be honest and give support. Because one thing I have realised is when you support people, it comes back. It's like throwing a ball at a wall. It get backs to you, you get. So one thing I'm going to talk about is I do not necessarily have a plan that, okay, let me do it that way, this way, that way. I'm going to be so real.
2022-10-08T00:45:09.053Z ImmanuelNFT:  Insincere, but for me it's about doing what I do best, giving support.
2022-10-08T00:45:24.873Z ImmanuelNFT:  Whole spaces go into friend's spaces hosting your spaces. Give them support and they turn to love me and connect with me beyond the PFP and the connect with me like like on a level of humans connecting.
2022-10-08T00:45:33.543Z ImmanuelNFT:  If I I get away from this space for some time, they get back to me, hermano. They get in. My DM, what's going on? We we miss you. It shows the love.
2022-10-08T00:45:45.356Z ImmanuelNFT:  And I think everything is coming to me because of the support that I, I, I give to all these projects. So when, when, when I started this whole spaces.
2022-10-08T00:46:15.696Z ImmanuelNFT:  I've made more than 100 sale and it's not about my projects. Not none of these sale came into even the project that I support because the biggest rise in FT have not mentioned yet we came. I mean the project started in somewhere February, grinded till this time and we have not yet minted amid date is not even out. It's going to be out soon but not yet out and we have generated more than 100 sale for artists who come into our spaces.
2022-10-08T00:46:21.061Z ImmanuelNFT:  Now we have morning espresso spaces that we host starts at 7:00 AM Eastern Time.
2022-10-08T00:46:32.259Z ImmanuelNFT:  We support them, we have collectors who come in, they buy from them and they love. So for me, I think it's all about how your shuttle times.
2022-10-08T00:46:46.558Z ImmanuelNFT:  And be consistent with it. So everybody in my circle knows ohh when is seven, 7:00 o'clock in the morning, Eastern Time. I'm going to the morning espresso space and and Emmanuel is going to be there.
2022-10-08T00:46:53.441Z ImmanuelNFT:  And we have days for and we have been consistent with it since I started my Twitter handle.
2022-10-08T00:47:05.245Z ImmanuelNFT:  All consistent. So I've had folks that come into this morning espresso space like drinking coffee in the morning. And so that's the shuttle and I've been disciplined on, on, on that.
2022-10-08T00:47:21.945Z ImmanuelNFT:  And I give support to them. I become so real and transparent to them. If it's critique, I mean constructive critique. If it's support, great support. And I think that has really go a long way of helping me and giving me so much love in this space. Yep, thanks.
2022-10-08T00:47:33.684Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:48:06.371Z Blue2black:  I have to admit that I you seem like a nice guy and you know that's that's obviously transferring you know and that's important. You know, you talk about transparency and you talk about being being essentially a good person, you know and you know, putting other people's projects ahead of your own. That's a very noble thing to do. And you know the fact that if you had your project minted already you might have had more sales yourself you know, so in terms of marketing.
2022-10-08T00:48:36.692Z Blue2black:  I would actually say that, uh, had you minted your works already, you probably would have had sales already. So it's a pity that you, you missed out on all this potential that you could have had. So just want to point that out that you actually missed out on your own marketing. The same with me. But remember once again, I want to reinforce something else. That hype is extremely important in terms of marketing.
2022-10-08T00:48:57.078Z Blue2black:  So you were saying there about you need like a launching date for your minting now that is very important and you really have to have that. You have to have a launch, you have to have a minting party, you have to have these type of things. I mean, you know exactly what I'm talking about here, don't you?
2022-10-08T00:49:11.985Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T00:49:11.434Z ImmanuelNFT:  Uh yeah, blue black. So I responding time. I just, I'm, I'm, I'm posted. And let me tell you something that the project tried to market this whole NFT so.
2022-10-08T00:49:20.595Z ImmanuelNFT:  With the big old Rising FTSE, we have the whole collection we want to mentor. We wanna. I mean meant to our community and everything, but.
2022-10-08T00:49:24.051Z ImmanuelNFT:  We sat down and we thought about it that okay.
2022-10-08T00:49:24.477Z ImmanuelNFT:  
2022-10-08T00:49:55.942Z ImmanuelNFT:  What is so different in the market? What's the niche you have in the market? What's not done because it's normally very, very, very very difficult to do. So we came on to a point that said Okay, hand drawn animated art is very complicated and everybody who is an artist is going to tell you that hand drawn art piece is time consuming. I mean it's not like a I is a is nothing to do like generative. You have to draw everything by themselves.
2022-10-08T00:50:14.155Z ImmanuelNFT:  Okay, you've got the art, then what next? Animate it? And everybody who's who's going to be in this space is going to tell you that animation is also a ton of work. So normally when you have artists who come into the spaces, they try to do 100 animated art on one of one basis.
2022-10-08T00:50:43.31Z ImmanuelNFT:  It does not come in collection. So that is a huge niche market. So if you have a project that is doing this in a collection is going to bring a lot of eyes looking at this project. So we try to okay, let's do something like that and have it not in a bigger collection. So 200 pieces for the first phase, unique art, hand drawn animated art, okay. Then what's going to make it more, I mean different. So we thought about okay.
2022-10-08T00:51:03.589Z ImmanuelNFT:  For me, I believe that nfts is about the talent that you have, the utility to bring in, the demand for the art piece and everything that you're trying to put across. And thirdly, I believe in impact. Your art needs to give the community hope. It needs to give back to the community, so.
2022-10-08T00:51:35.129Z ImmanuelNFT:  We inculcated these stuffs into with brilliant art is done then utility we're going to have this whole collectors are going to have like voting rights in the project. When you mean the animated art piece, you're going to get like high resolution PFP as unlockable content. I mean I mean we take us to events. I don't want to just chill about the project but we had tons and I want everybody to checkout this project, go on the website and do massive research about it and with the impact aspect, we w
2022-10-08T00:52:05.393Z ImmanuelNFT:  We we have a fund coming to support Young Women podcast to educate them and we believe young women live in society. So to sensitise society to create that environment for them, to harness the talents and also we have Aral events to educate them and and that's apparently going to be free for collectors who hold the NFT. So that is done for the first race. Now the second phase then we are going to bring in the 5000 big old rice avatars and that is going to be like 3D RP.
2022-10-08T00:52:36.364Z ImmanuelNFT:  And one thing is right now we've sold the first face, raising the amount of money, then we're going to push more into marketing and get more, bigger audience. So now we're going to have the avatar. And the avatar, those who meant the first phase are going to get like 3 meant for like limited quantity of the avatars. So after that is done, holders of the avatars we are building, I mean a virtual world like the bigger vests, so that we can inculcate the events.
2022-10-08T00:53:06.874Z ImmanuelNFT:  And the podcast and our mash up into this virtual world. So those are gonna means the avatar's holding the avatar gives you a pass to enter into this virtual world and also we're going to have a creative support program that is gonna give creators mentorship training. We're going to give um I mean partnership opportunities and bringing the discovery platform to push their works out to audience. So these two stuff is also demand bringing they they they bring up demand and you know when demand.
2022-10-08T00:53:12.709Z ImmanuelNFT:  Outweighs supply. Um, you know, price pops up, price goes up and up. So.
2022-10-08T00:53:12.327Z ImmanuelNFT:  
2022-10-08T00:53:16.055Z ImmanuelNFT:  Looking at the strategy that we have in place.
2022-10-08T00:53:24.391Z ImmanuelNFT:  It's bringing in huge. I'm telling you right now, the white list for the 200 is packed up.
2022-10-08T00:53:40.081Z ImmanuelNFT:  And people cannot wait for the moment and I'm I'm, I'm just going to tell you. I meant is somewhere around 28th of this month is going to be made official, God willing by Monday, Tuesday is going to be made official. So one thing is.
2022-10-08T00:54:09.432Z ImmanuelNFT:  The project has been in existence since February, and when the project came, we we taught ourselves that no, we do not have to rush if we want to stay in a game for long. If you want to stay in the game for the long term, why rush? You would want to stay? Build more credibility, build more organic community people who will love the project not because they want to buy and flip, but because they believe in the vision and the dreams of the project and what the project wants to, I mean.
2022-10-08T00:54:11.846Z ImmanuelNFT:  Give out.
2022-10-08T00:54:40.439Z ImmanuelNFT:  And so I'm so excited. It's a project that the team is docked on the website led by women, founded by women. I'm on this project to support this woman. Yep. And it's been, I mean a great journey for myself and I think marketing wise for the project aspect, I think it's been brilliant and it was an A wild execution for the project to take on such a path and I see great success ahead.
2022-10-08T00:54:45.628Z Blue2black:  Now that was well said now, Slover.
2022-10-08T00:54:49.389Z Blue2black:  I need you to look at this very last.
2022-10-08T00:54:56.646Z Blue2black:  Both the big goals rise NFD and then I just want you to give me your.
2022-10-08T00:55:06.363Z Blue2black:  Inside into what makes that such a good tweet? Because I know you're a you know about what I'm talking about there.
2022-10-08T00:55:14.862Z slavakurilyak:  Yeah, I am happy to give my insight here. So I'm looking at it now. I.
2022-10-08T00:55:18.662Z slavakurilyak:  Okay, so this is.
2022-10-08T00:55:20.753Z slavakurilyak:  One of the.
2022-10-08T00:55:24.623Z slavakurilyak:  The concepts that I mentioned before.
2022-10-08T00:55:28.18Z slavakurilyak:  Where if you are.
2022-10-08T00:55:42.688Z slavakurilyak:  Aiming to do marketing and you wanna tap into what's considered the best practice? Well, one of these best practices is to do what's called a giveaway. This is exactly what a big girls rise and ft.
2022-10-08T00:56:14.744Z slavakurilyak:  Twin and that the pen tweet shows here. This is a giveaway that essentially is aiming to get people to engage with the campaign and through that engagement they get a free enough tea. Now this is definitely one of the best practices in this space. It is quite nicely laid out. I love the fact that there is not only kind of the criteria for the giveaway, but there's also some kind of bonus perks or what they call optional.
2022-10-08T00:56:44.169Z slavakurilyak:  And there's also a visual implementation here. So there's both text and the and the visual. So in terms of the kind of the visual appeal, it definitely captured my attention. In terms of the best practice it is using. Giveaway. I keep in mind that at the moment this campaign is what I would consider to be a manual campaign. It does require somebody to be managing this campaign and keeping a very close eye on it and the reason for that?
2022-10-08T00:56:44.79Z slavakurilyak:  Because.
2022-10-08T00:57:15.347Z slavakurilyak:  If you look at the criteria, and in this case, there's three requirements that must be made, one optional, and every single one of those 3 criteria must be manually checked by the the giveaway manager or the contest manager or the marketing specialist. And that is a big big time sync for who is doing that type of work. Now if you're doing one, let's say give away let's say.
2022-10-08T00:57:45.381Z slavakurilyak:  Even if it's once a month, it's not that big of a deal, but I have seen projects do giveaways on a daily basis and that really starts to add up. So if you're doing multiple campaigns, multiple giveaways, if you don't want to put too much time pressure on whoever is managing the system, then one way I would improve upon it would be to essentially leverage software that'll help the management aspect of.
2022-10-08T00:58:12.298Z slavakurilyak:  Who did actually create the complete the criteria? Who followed the account? Who liked the account? Who retweeted the account? All those criteria can be and should be checked by software. And I mean, unless people really like doing the kind of the road and redundant task of doing this manually, I highly recommend future campaigns to be more automated, and I'm happy to also share different software that can do that.
2022-10-08T00:58:31.916Z Blue2black:  Coming back to another point there, if you look at the artwork, you'll see that there are hashtags used, there are tags being used, and there's a link being used, and then the hashtags being used is nfds.
2022-10-08T00:58:35.786Z Blue2black:  And then we've got NFD community.
2022-10-08T00:58:59.302Z Blue2black:  We've got OK sorry I'm struggling to screw Scroll down now talking out of just remembering now didn't then we had sorry just give me a second and if NFD community I think was the other one NFT community then NFT collectors and NFT giveaways now NFT community.
2022-10-08T00:59:31.981Z Blue2black:  That's a bit vague, and ft collectors, that's a bit vague, but NFT giveaways is the primary one here that really gets the best attention. Anybody mentioning anything giveaways and actually have a giveaway automatically draws a crowd from you know, it's just a bit of a it's a bit of a trend. People kind of look for this tag in order to find somebody where they might get something free either, you know, people do different giveaways, you know?
2022-10-08T00:59:45.145Z Blue2black:  A lot of people with the most success actually do like $100 for a giveaway and only one person get it and stuff like that. But did you know that according to engagement?
2022-10-08T00:59:47.813Z Blue2black:  These giveaways actually have.
2022-10-08T00:59:52.172Z Blue2black:  More impact than Donald Trump?
2022-10-08T00:59:56.799Z Blue2black:  Well, Donald Trump's previous account ohh he's not on.
2022-10-08T01:00:27.228Z Blue2black:  More. But either way, he used to be one of the most influential people on Twitter in terms of engagement and so forth. But when you start looking at statistics, you'll actually see that these people doing giveaways have a bigger reach than that account. So ask yourself the question, why? Why do anybody giveaways end up being such a massively influential type of tweet? So I'm going to go back to Slava.
2022-10-08T01:00:29.32Z Blue2black:  You mind answering that for us?
2022-10-08T01:00:49.436Z slavakurilyak:  Yeah, there's there's definitely lots of some, I would say human behavioral kind of triggers your pulling on there. So obviously people love the free concept. When you're giving away something for free, it does feel nice. When you receive something for free, you feel elated. You want to talk about it, you want to.
2022-10-08T01:01:20.398Z slavakurilyak:  To share it so you do feel connected to that concept of a free item, but I also wanted to mention something that's important here is that you can do giveaways and oftentimes you should do giveaways as a way to do marketing. Again, this is a best practice so highly encouraged. However, there is one element that a lot of giveaway managers do not consider when setting up their campaigns and.
2022-10-08T01:01:38.055Z slavakurilyak:  Unfortunately, it's not something that is quite obvious, at least on first glance, so I do my best to educate this because I strongly believe that that there are better campaigns that can be set up, but nonetheless I will share my my insight here.
2022-10-08T01:02:07.699Z slavakurilyak:  So from the perspective of kind of imagine the ideal scenario where you're aiming to attract a new audience into your community. Well, if you go on any social media platform and you announce that you're giving away something for free, you will get attention. That is a really powerful way to get attention. However, the question that I often ask is, are you attracting your ideal?
2022-10-08T01:02:39.882Z slavakurilyak:  It was your ideal community fan, your ideal customer, and more often than not, giveaways do not attract your ideal kind of lead. And there is a reason for that is because the individuals who do kind of pay attention to that giveaway may or may not know about your project, may or may not know about your mission, may or may not know about what you do on the project, but they are paying attention to this, the free aspect.
2022-10-08T01:03:10.132Z slavakurilyak:  So if you do, for example, allow anyone to participate in the in a giveaway, then you are attracting everyone who you have not filtered through. Now obviously the filter criteria is one way to do so and that leads me to my next point. I believe a better way to do a giveaway is where you are filtering the types of individuals who are participating, and ideally you're looking for your ideal fan, your true fan.
2022-10-08T01:03:26.66Z slavakurilyak:  They're super fine, whatever label you wanna call it. Individuals who are more likely to engage, more likely to stick around, more likely to pay attention to the mission to mission and vision. And I'll give one simple implementation, and I encourage everyone to kind of think about this on their on their own terms.
2022-10-08T01:03:35.92Z slavakurilyak:  If you have a criteria that says fall in the account, it's not really filtering. If you have a criteria that says like a retweet, again, there's no filtering there.
2022-10-08T01:04:06.463Z slavakurilyak:  But if you have a simple link that says complete this form, now you're able to get some information about the type of individuals whose participating. Now you can ask very specific questions. Hey, are you for example a collector, an investor, a holder? Whatever label you want to collect from that survey? Forms, surveys, questionnaires. This is 1 simple way to filter.
2022-10-08T01:04:37.193Z slavakurilyak:  Types of individuals that are going through your campaign that way. When you do select the types of people who are either winning the NFT or receiving the pre sale whitest spot, then you at least know that you've done your best to reach the type of audience that you expect to stick around. If you don't have any criteria on your campaign that says for you to to know who is participating, you are inviting everyone and everyone is not necessarily.
2022-10-08T01:04:39.244Z slavakurilyak:  The best type of person to jump in your community.
2022-10-08T01:04:52.089Z Blue2black:  Then I just wanna say I text good to see you down there. And then we got our photographer.
2022-10-08T01:04:56.637Z Blue2black:  All the way from Japan are good to see you there as well.
2022-10-08T01:04:56.778Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:05:11.971Z Blue2black:  And then just wanna say I do acknowledge you guys and tax I do hope you got you come up and speak to us and then we've got pixel dream that just join us as well. Thank you very much love to speak to you again today and.
2022-10-08T01:05:42.939Z Blue2black:  Yes. So let me just kind of quickly refresh there. And so we are actually talking about marketing, we are talking about marketing strategies and we're talking about how it implements with your different project products. You know, so if if you have this type of project then this type of marketing will work if you have this. But obviously most of us are creators and most of us are artists and stuff like this. So essentially we can learn from each other.
2022-10-08T01:06:14.251Z Blue2black:  And what necessarily works for one person won't work for another because there's a different dynamic around your brand and there's a different style, but they're all tips and tricks and suggestions to be learned from each other. And this is exactly what we are coming here year for, getting professional advice in terms of marketing and how to apply that now to convey your brand to the audience and how to get an audience, because a lot of people.
2022-10-08T01:06:20.291Z Blue2black:  Have this question of how do I get my work seen? How do I do this now I have to admit.
2022-10-08T01:06:23.517Z Blue2black:  You know, um.
2022-10-08T01:06:39.734Z Blue2black:  Influencers do work. They do, they do work. And you can actually pay to be on on the pages of social influencers. Now, I'm not talking about myself, I'm a male micro influencer. I'm, you know, I'm talking about macro influencers.
2022-10-08T01:06:58.357Z Blue2black:  The you actually have to pay to in order to get on on those on those place places. But then the question once again is, is is that target audience that you are reaching there, are they actually tailor made for your for your brand and.
2022-10-08T01:07:22.384Z Blue2black:  Wouldn't you have been just better off just organically growing and would that have been a better like, marketing strategy instead of getting a lot of followers? But they're not really meaning anything to you or not really understanding your brand and so forth. So let's touch on that. But before we do, let's just introduce pixel dreams to everyone. Pixel dreams, how are you doing today?
2022-10-08T01:07:46.98Z pixeldreamznft:  Hey yo, shout out to everyone in the space. Hey blue Kabir, shout out to everyone. Slaver Web 3 great artists in the room, Emmanuel Ebo, Nonfungible talking, shout out to the speakers and the listeners in the space is really awesome. Being here, I just came up to say hi, say hello.
2022-10-08T01:07:49.3Z pixeldreamznft:  Are you all doing?
2022-10-08T01:08:06.761Z Blue2black:  Good. Now considering that we are talking about you know all of this marketing in the product and stuff like that, why don't you tell us about your product quickly so that we can see how what type of marketing you would apply to that and?
2022-10-08T01:08:11.353Z Blue2black:  What are you applying and is it working? Are you getting any sales?
2022-10-08T01:08:42.618Z pixeldreamznft:  Ohh right. So yeah, Samuel and I'm from Nigeria. I'm a Pixel illustrator and a poet and I I try my very possible best to stand out of the competition because there is so much competition in the NFC space. The nfts space is choked with so many artists. So number one is to stand out. Your arts should be good. You should work on improving yourself because that's what I've been doing. I've recently, I've stayed away from spaces.
2022-10-08T01:08:59.94Z pixeldreamznft:  I've just been working on myself, improving all my art skills. That's what matters first of all. Then what I do is engage with other people's sweets. I mean support other people to gain the support you need to show love to.
2022-10-08T01:09:19.386Z pixeldreamznft:  Gets a love if you get what I mean, and also talking in spaces because I don't have money for influencers. So yeah, I do everything organically and yeah, I make myself, although they don't call me every time they come once in a while or yeah, the sales are coming for me.
2022-10-08T01:09:24.374Z Blue2black:  And have you had any sales yet?
2022-10-08T01:09:35.699Z pixeldreamznft:  Ohh yes. I have a sale on Open Sea Foundation. There's us. I just had to sell. No not so long ago in the space I just left.
2022-10-08T01:09:44.554Z Blue2black:  So tell me about what platform do you feel works the best or is it about the art more than the the the marketplace?
2022-10-08T01:09:50.73Z pixeldreamznft:  Yeah, it's more about the Oscars. Most people that buy from me, they go through my link tree.
2022-10-08T01:09:54.475Z pixeldreamznft:  So yeah, it's more about the arts, not just the marketplace.
2022-10-08T01:10:10.221Z Blue2black:  Yeah, see then this is exactly what I mean. Um, the marketplace is just the link. It's a library where your art is stored. It's got nothing to do with marketing. They won't market that for you. The marketing lies entirely up to yourself.
2022-10-08T01:10:12.067Z Blue2black:  How you share?
2022-10-08T01:10:42.912Z Blue2black:  Your method of sharing you know whether you have a connection with the crowd, emotional connection. You know emotional identification you know reading your crowd, eating the right target audience, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know there's a lot of list of things that are ghost hunting and with that. But now in terms of now give us, show us the artwork that's that's sold lightly lost artwork that's sold and let us kind of tell us about why do you think this.
2022-10-08T01:10:46.246Z Blue2black:  Artwork stood out. And why do you think this artwork sold?
2022-10-08T01:10:52.389Z Blue2black:  Do you mind sharing that for us, that artwork that did get sold?
2022-10-08T01:11:00.898Z Blue2black:  OK, I think it's running in the moment because I see speakers disappear.
2022-10-08T01:11:08.797Z Blue2black:  I go. We'll wait for him to connect again. But yeah.
2022-10-08T01:11:18.556Z Blue2black:  Slava, you know, there are really a lot of difficult different elements that comes into play in terms of marketing, but.
2022-10-08T01:11:51.851Z Blue2black:  The best practice, uh, can be a lot of things. You know, we've touched upon a lot of things here today, and I just wanted to to say that, you know, what works for one person might not work for another. And you know, you can both do exactly the same strategy, but one just does it better or connects with the right crowd. And, you know, sometimes marketing is like being a comedian, you know, sometimes the audience, you know, gets you and you know they'll laugh at you.
2022-10-08T01:12:22.203Z Blue2black:  And other times, you know it's a dry house and you won't get any sales. You know, it's it's just like that. So you have to be able to read your audience and you have to be able to perform for your audience, you know, think about dogged audience. Now when I elaborate on target audience, sometimes it is easier to understand the target audience. When you look at the Alice M Now I know Alice M sound like.
2022-10-08T01:12:52.505Z Blue2black:  Difficult word now, but it's basically pointing towards living standards, measurement. Now the media is really broken up in terms of the target audience really being geared towards that because let's look at, let's look at the fact that you're on Twitter. You know, that means you know, you're kind of connected to the whole world, but majority of the people that's on on Twitter will be your American audience and then they would arrange to, you know.
2022-10-08T01:13:14.037Z Blue2black:  The UK and Europe and then it will kind of fade into maybe like you know the the, the, the Eastern countries and then Africa and South America and so forth. But overall demographically you can kind of cover the whole world but majority of the people will be American. So now let's go and male or female you can say okay.
2022-10-08T01:13:45.642Z Blue2black:  Now we know that according to statistic given to us earlier here tonight that 16% of the artists are of female and the rest are male. So now you have a bit of the demographic on the amount of men versus men and women. So that gives you another target audience. Now when it gets to Alice M, then that gets a little bit more complicated because now you know the sexes, you kind of know the demographics and now coming to the living standard.
2022-10-08T01:14:05.497Z Blue2black:  Measurements. It works a little bit different. So let's say for instance you have a list of 100 items found in your house. Anything from a toothbrush to a television set, fridge, car, satellite dish, you know you got all these different items. So now the question is what?
2022-10-08T01:14:09.278Z Blue2black:  How many of those items do you have?
2022-10-08T01:14:20.107Z Blue2black:  So let's say for instance we talk about Kabir now and Kabir. Let's see, Kabir, Kabir. Do you have a satellite dish?
2022-10-08T01:14:24.33Z Blue2black:  Do you have a TV? Do you have a fridge? Do you have a car?
2022-10-08T01:14:36.266Z Blue2black:  So let's say Kabir doesn't have a satellite dish. OK, let's say Kabir also doesn't have a call.
2022-10-08T01:14:55.398Z Blue2black:  But he does have a fridge and he does have this and he does have that. So that means anything. If I would try to survey now and I would, my odd would be catered towards fridges, then because Kabir's got a fridge down means that I can advertise fridge related stuff to Kabir.
2022-10-08T01:15:13.788Z Blue2black:  He doesn't have a car, so I shouldn't be pitching anything about cars to Kabir because it wouldn't apply to him because he doesn't have a car. But in general, he's got about 80% of the lists of items on the list, so therefore you can kind of say that he's about an 8 out of 10, yeah.
2022-10-08T01:15:13.998Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:15:42.685Z Blue2black:  Ohh, let's say for instance we talk about somebody else. Let's say it is a student who makes art. Now, that student doesn't have a car, he doesn't have a fridge, he doesn't have a TV, you know, he's got a school bag and a bicycle, you know, so then according to his living standard measurements of the 100 items on the list, you can kind of say that maybe he's got 10 to 30 items on the list. So.
2022-10-08T01:15:52.443Z Blue2black:  In terms of marketing, how many items can you sell to him and what would be his average budget that he would have to spend on the product so.
2022-10-08T01:16:15.311Z Blue2black:  Yeah, basically he's just gonna buy money with these left over money, you know, maybe his pocket money and stuff like that. So if he were to buy an artwork from you, what would be his budget? You know, let's say $5.00. But now considering that Kabir's got a car and he's got a, you know, he's got the little bit more things and than that, so he's at 8 now, so.
2022-10-08T01:16:46.192Z Blue2black:  He will have a much bigger budget in terms of, you know, his financial position, then then the student. So the student. If the student is your follower for instance, then you have to consider if you're going to make an artwork specifically targeting that student. Then even though your topic might reach the student financially, the student is unable to buy the artwork from you.
2022-10-08T01:17:16.801Z Blue2black:  Because he's in the LSM that he still loved to compete with the price of your artwork, but now kabiru, Zinara, higher range, he might be able to buy your off work. So he is a much better bit and a much better target audience than the student. So sometimes these statistics and these kind of surveys that people are doing about you and stuff like that is strict, kind of aimed around this type of LSM, you know, classifying.
2022-10-08T01:17:27.51Z Blue2black:  People to you know not only their demographics and their sex and their income and all these type of things, but also the type of items that are generally available, so.
2022-10-08T01:17:32.213Z Blue2black:  If I would advertise on the 8:00 o'clock news or, well, the Superbowl.
2022-10-08T01:18:03.185Z Blue2black:  And then obviously the people that are watching is the sport related people and you know that's my target audience is going to be predominantly men and you know you're talking about, you know, all different ages, but you know predominantly maybe the men between you know 20 and 35, you know, the hardcore football fans, you know, so if you're going to put an ad or a marketing campaign in on the Super Bowl then you really wanna hit that target audience, but.
2022-10-08T01:18:11.635Z Blue2black:  In order for you to really make sense and to understand them, you have to sell something either, you know.
2022-10-08T01:18:43.562Z Blue2black:  Like A5 for instance somebody, let's say you trigger, you want to trigger, you want to incorporate as many people as possible, then it's useless for you to aim at the three Alice M because they won't buy anything from you because they they they don't even have a fridge. So what? Does it help you sell fridges or you sell TV? Those people won't pretty much just won't be able to support you. They are not within your target audience. So that's a really important to understand.
2022-10-08T01:18:49.449Z Blue2black:  And if you are catering, if you're creating a commercial or if you're creating an ad.
2022-10-08T01:19:09.536Z Blue2black:  Marketing campaign or a type of strategy or whatever you're doing, it's essential for you to understand who you are actually trying to sell to and whether they actually are within the range of budget that complies with your price. So that's something to just consider, but it's not a rule of thumb.
2022-10-08T01:19:40.601Z Blue2black:  It just helps you kind of define your target audience and I know when you're going to look at people on Twitter spaces, you can't really say like that person has a lot of that person has nothing or stuff like that. But try and figure out your target audience because your or does speak to a specific niche and you know if you're targeting, you know women and these type of things then focus on women, focus on on you know then get your criteria right or you.
2022-10-08T01:19:46.969Z Blue2black:  Talking to, you know, single woman. Are you talking to middle-aged women? Are you talking to elderly woman?
2022-10-08T01:20:12.202Z Blue2black:  How are you talking to pensioners alone? You know, so define your market, define your target audience. That's essential for you to understand the type of marketing campaign that you have to incorporate into your your, your, your, YOUR product. So slova, I know you might have a little bit extra things to add to that, so I'll give you the mic for a moment.
2022-10-08T01:20:16.726Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:20:17.803Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:20:37.896Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:20:46.238Z slavakurilyak:  Yeah, I I'm happy to give some insight here. For those who are curious, there are ways to accomplish what blue to block is saying. I will do a PIN tweet to this space so everyone is able to check that out. There is a third party platform that has initially launched for clubhouse and then they came in to Twitter spaces afterwards that tries to answer the question is who is listening to myself and kind of.
2022-10-08T01:21:01.609Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:21:07.886Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:21:16.603Z slavakurilyak:  My Twitter space. It gives you insights such as you know what is the gender of the listener and what is the the age and from that information you become more aware of the demographics. So if you haven't already checkout dircon. I just did a pen tweet to the top of this space. It is a product that gives you both free and paid plan. So definitely do your research, do your homework, see if it works for you if you are interested.
2022-10-08T01:21:47.454Z slavakurilyak:  You learn how to be a better marketer, but you haven't yet learned what type is kind of what is your ideal audience or your ideal customer. Then perhaps starting with demographics is a simple way for you to move forward. There are other ways as well. Keep that in mind. You know there are other platforms out there that give you additional insights that diacon may not tell you. I do want to do a spotlight, one more element about dark on which I really appreciate.
2022-10-08T01:21:49.529Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:21:55.034Z slavakurilyak:  Not only can direct on give you the demographics that that blue was talking about, but also they can tell you.
2022-10-08T01:22:16.984Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:22:25.684Z slavakurilyak:  What the individuals are doing with your Twitter space. A simple example is if for example, you know I join blue space more than five times, will dark on can let blue know that? Or if for example Chris or Shannon has has listened to blue speak for let's say five hours, well again, dark on can kind of surface those insights so that blue can take action. So definitely check out dark on that's one another platform that.
2022-10-08T01:22:56.302Z slavakurilyak:  I can recommend because I have experience with both is typically, typically is a great platform to schedule tweets ahead of time, but they also give you a built in analytics and one of these analytics which will give you additional insights on kind of how you can best market yourself is the engagement you're getting on your tweeets. And so you can better understand whether you should post in the morning at what time based on your time zone, whether you should post the middle of the day or.
2022-10-08T01:23:15.515Z slavakurilyak:  At the end of the day, what day works best for you? What time works best for you? All of that information is available. Twitter gives you some insight, but not enough. So if you need to kind of level up your marketing and you're looking for tools to help you get there, then definitely checkout darkon and checkout typically.
2022-10-08T01:23:35.132Z Blue2black:  Awesome. I actually would love to check that out myself because I'm such a fanatic of analytics. So do you please share that with me? We have silver. I'd love to have that now. Pixel dream, sorry, you disappeared on Thursday for a moment and I just want to get back to you there.
2022-10-08T01:23:57.74Z Blue2black:  So ohh, you were busy talking there and then you just disappeared. I think you started rugging. So kinda just come back to you, the pixel, and tell us about, you know, your marketing, what are you doing that's working and you know, do you know anything about your audience? Do you actually know who they are, what they are?
2022-10-08T01:23:58.897Z Blue2black:  The.
2022-10-08T01:23:58.916Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:24:01.811Z Blue2black:  You actually ever looked into that?
2022-10-08T01:24:33.914Z pixeldreamznft:  Ohh, sorry I robbed ohh. But yeah. So yeah. The thing about building your niche, like yeah, I follow people that have interest in what I do, like pixel art because that's what I do. So those are the kind of people I look for in spaces, but not necessarily only people that have interest in pixel art because it's not always about like shilling in spaces does not always the way of making sales.
2022-10-08T01:25:04.66Z pixeldreamznft:  Because we are not robots. I tend to make good connections in spaces because that's what is gonna take you far in this space is knowledge about Schilling. Make connections and spaces. I build that relationship, I go into spaces and just be a human because that's who I am and just connect with people. Create relationship. Not necessarily make everything transactional, just connect. That's what I do in spaces. And yeah, I interact with Swedes.
2022-10-08T01:25:28.907Z pixeldreamznft:  Both people, you know, buy some artworks, not just to show, but it's going to come back to you for sure. Like it's going to come back, I promise. You. Like support people, surely. Surely like support is going to come back to you. And yeah, that's what I do in spaces. I grow everything organically, improve all my artwork and connect with people. Basically, that's what I do.
2022-10-08T01:25:45.074Z Blue2black:  Ohh.
2022-10-08T01:25:45.985Z slavakurilyak:  Hey blue, can you hear us? I think Blues are again.
2022-10-08T01:25:57.313Z Blue2black:  Um, so sorry, I I didn't press the mic. So how has that been working for you? Because I definitely know that that is quite a good strategy to use.
2022-10-08T01:26:29.819Z pixeldreamznft:  It's been going well because there there's sometimes I don't need to. Most of my artwork that sold, I didn't need to like talk in spaces. It just happened through the day and like someone just DM me and be like I love your piece and I know it's not. It just, it might just be by retweeting. It might just be that someone I've actually gone into spaces where someone was like talking about my work, not just once, not twice, and what actually caused that.
2022-10-08T01:26:42.9Z pixeldreamznft:  Is because of the connection I made with that person. That's why I say like connection is very, very very important in this space. So yeah, that that's how I make myself and it's actually working for me. It is.
2022-10-08T01:26:55.675Z Blue2black:  Now, I tried to post your your work there on the top, but I it didn't seem to take effect. But it might be just me. Can anybody see he's tweeting?
2022-10-08T01:26:56.179Z pixeldreamznft:  No I can see it.
2022-10-08T01:27:03.033Z Blue2black:  That is a day. OK, so that means it's just my Twitter doing funny things. OK, so.
2022-10-08T01:27:15.594Z Blue2black:  Now coming back to the demographics and you know the gender and you know all these other things. You know the information about your target audience.
2022-10-08T01:27:25.469Z Blue2black:  Why do you think that's important? Why do you think it's it's actually necessary for you to really know who your target audience is?
2022-10-08T01:27:32.397Z Blue2black:  Makes it so essential and, you know, ask yourself those questions, because it really is.
2022-10-08T01:27:48.695Z Blue2black:  Imminent questions. If you don't think they are, then it means that you really don't understand the importance of target audience in terms of marketing. And Target audience is absolutely the name of the game.
2022-10-08T01:27:56.081Z Blue2black:  But coming back to social media in order for you to grow and be you know.
2022-10-08T01:28:03.522Z Blue2black:  Acknowledge on Twitter and any type of social media platform.
2022-10-08T01:28:34.66Z Blue2black:  There is a word that is very good. I kind of encapsulates this whole thing and that's online presence. Now I don't know of any views understand online prisons and I'm actually going to throw this around a bit and just see what is your understanding of it. And I see you, you've, you've, you've joined us again. Have we been busy that long that you really went for a nap when you're back again or have you just been out for a while and you finally decided to come and join us?
2022-10-08T01:28:35.022Z Blue2black:  Again.
2022-10-08T01:28:50.228Z Blue2black:  Yeah, so you is uh, you is a Japanese artist that does haiku and she was your earlier tonight and such a pleasant person with such a beautiful voice.
2022-10-08T01:28:57.369Z Blue2black:  So yeah, let's just continue. So Kabir, what's your understanding of online presence?
2022-10-08T01:29:10.882Z Blue2black:  I think I caught him off guard there. Let's see. Wait, three women. Let's see if you understand what he's online presence.
2022-10-08T01:29:15.476Z Web3WomenCommun:  Could you go ahead and repeat that for me, partner?
2022-10-08T01:29:20.337Z Blue2black:  Can you explain to me what is online presence?
2022-10-08T01:29:25.569Z Web3WomenCommun:  Probably not, to be perfectly honest with you.
2022-10-08T01:29:30.653Z Blue2black:  So what is your understanding of it?
2022-10-08T01:29:43.825Z Web3WomenCommun:  I'm just guessing, you know, Shannon. Shannon walked into the room, she's cooking dinner. We had kind of a conversation over the last minute of what you were talking about. So if you're talking about what is online presence.
2022-10-08T01:29:45.857Z Web3WomenCommun:  Is that what your question is?
2022-10-08T01:29:48.57Z Blue2black:  That's it, that's it. What's your understanding of it?
2022-10-08T01:29:49.459Z Web3WomenCommun:  Okay.
2022-10-08T01:29:50.838Z Web3WomenCommun:  Um.
2022-10-08T01:29:52.83Z Web3WomenCommun:  I think.
2022-10-08T01:29:55.57Z Web3WomenCommun:  Here's my understanding of it.
2022-10-08T01:29:58.221Z Web3WomenCommun:  It has to be honest.
2022-10-08T01:30:11.895Z Web3WomenCommun:  Through to your mission and to your personality. And so if it is those two things, I think it's OK. I can only approach it from that standpoint as opposed to like.
2022-10-08T01:30:25.745Z Web3WomenCommun:  How to craft an online presence? So maybe I don't understand the question. I would my head was in two different places when you were talking, so I apologize but straighten me out.
2022-10-08T01:30:30.672Z Blue2black:  No, don't worry at all. It wasn't meant to be right or wrong.
2022-10-08T01:30:40.988Z Blue2black:  So we've got a new person here. Hi babe. So hi babe. Tell me something. Do you know what is online presence and what is your understanding of it?
2022-10-08T01:30:45.122Z hibabenft:  Hi everyone.
2022-10-08T01:30:48.404Z hibabenft:  What did you just say online? What?
2022-10-08T01:30:50.842Z Blue2black:  Online presence.
2022-10-08T01:30:54.129Z hibabenft:  I have no idea what that is.
2022-10-08T01:30:56.777Z Blue2black:  Hello.
2022-10-08T01:31:02.644Z Blue2black:  Pixel let's go to you quickly. Do you know where he's online presence? What's your understanding of it?
2022-10-08T01:31:12.372Z pixeldreamznft:  In my own understanding, I think it has to do with your branding consistency. That's like being active.
2022-10-08T01:31:16.819Z pixeldreamznft:  And Yep, Brandon and consistency.
2022-10-08T01:31:20.915Z Blue2black:  Very, very close. So slova.
2022-10-08T01:31:27.185Z slavakurilyak:  That's a great question. I think that.
2022-10-08T01:31:34.444Z slavakurilyak:  I see it very similar to what Pixel said. I see it as.
2022-10-08T01:31:35.968Z slavakurilyak:  A.
2022-10-08T01:31:44.392Z slavakurilyak:  Process or a way of presenting yourself online, whether you're targeting a personal or professional brand.
2022-10-08T01:31:45.981Z slavakurilyak:  
2022-10-08T01:32:06.315Z Blue2black:  Okay, so pixel, pixel, you were very close there. It really is all about consistency, availability, presentability, um, you know, but basically a big part of it is consistency and availability having your presence.
2022-10-08T01:32:36.893Z Blue2black:  On the Internet, online, you know, if I look for you, are you going to be available? Let's say for instance, you arguments sake, you sell cats. Now you've got this white cat that you advertised and I'm really interested in having it. So now I contact you and you know my kids are driving me up the wall. I they want that cat. I need that cat. I want that cat right now. So now I'm contacting Pixel and I'm pixel, pixel, pixel. Where are you?
2022-10-08T01:32:41.364Z Blue2black:  Pixel Pixel I want that cat and I can't get hold of pixel so.
2022-10-08T01:33:06.128Z Blue2black:  Pixel is advertising the cat but he's not online. He's presence is not there. He's not available. So now my kids still wants a cat and now I can't get a cat from pixel. So now I have to go onto to junk mail or whatever and I have to go find another cat and then you know it's not the right cat. But I still got a cat in the end of the day. Why didn't I get the cat? Because.
2022-10-08T01:33:30.271Z Blue2black:  There wasn't enough online prisons for pixel two in order to answer my reply. You know, so you need to be available. You need to have your presence felt. That's basically what it comes down to. And in order for your presence to be felt, for your presence to become lingering and consistent, you need to be consistent. You need to be available. You need to.
2022-10-08T01:34:00.77Z Blue2black:  Raisins being met. So if somebody does want you, if somebody needs to inquire something business related or whatsoever that they're not going to get in contact with you now and then three months later when you eventually decide to open your Twitter again, then you can respond to them. Then it's too late. Then you've missed out on the deal and you've failed. In terms of online presence and in when you want to do social media marketing, online presence is absolutely essential.
2022-10-08T01:34:10.347Z Blue2black:  Goes that consistency, that availability which is one step up from the other person that might just not be available so.
2022-10-08T01:34:41.055Z Blue2black:  Another really important thing in terms of marketing is online presence. So are you going to be available? Ask yourself that question. And if you are not going to be available, do you have an actual schedule or you know, a timesheet or something like that where people know when you will be available. So ask yourself that question. Are you available, are you consistent? And do you actually have an online presence now? I bet.
2022-10-08T01:35:09.039Z Blue2black:  All of you are having an online presence because in my own experience, the the people who are using the spaces tend to be the higher engaging members of Twitter. And I also tend to be, you know, more consistent and have a a better presence than those who don't use the spaces. Because I know you're online, I can see you're online. So I can actually contact you and say, okay, I see you're online, are you now can I?
2022-10-08T01:35:20.941Z Blue2black:  Buy that from you. Stuff like that. The chances of somebody buying your work without you being present is actually just that much lower, so.
2022-10-08T01:35:30.184Z Blue2black:  Just think about that aspect for tonight. Think about are you available, are you present on the Internet, and are you consistent?
2022-10-08T01:36:05.94Z Blue2black:  So, hi, baby. Hi, babe. Let me just get back to you there. I actually want you to just first kind of tell us about these collection of cute babies that you have there and tell us about your product. And you know, coming back to kind of refreshing it a bit, I want to ask you the same question and ask you just the simple fact of like considering you've got these 90 babies and so forth like that, what platform are you using and what strategy?
2022-10-08T01:36:16.88Z Blue2black:  Or campaign or you're using and all you're actually having. Any results in doing that? And if so, please explain us your strategy that you think is working for you.
2022-10-08T01:36:43.441Z hibabenft:  Sure. So hi everyone, I'm Eileen. I'm an artist that was born and raised in Hong Kong, so I have two collection on open sea right now. The first one is my hybrid collection. So my hybrid collection is a collection that was inspired by my favorite childhood door, which my parents gave to me before I was four.
2022-10-08T01:37:15.194Z hibabenft:  But I still have three of them in real life. And growing up, I always bring them to travel with me or when I was studying abroad, they're there with me. That's why they have always been giving me the Azure love and support that I need. I just hope that hybrid can record your favorite childhood memory and toys, as well as to tell you that it's okay to continue to nurture and cultivate our inner child. With my hybrid project, my goal is to continue to give back to the NFT community. What I mean by
2022-10-08T01:37:24.215Z hibabenft:  Every show I get, I reinvest part of the Percy back into the NFT community by purchasing another artwork from another small artist like me.
2022-10-08T01:37:54.335Z hibabenft:  And I also have another collection on OpenCL. It's called dynamic Eileen. So basically I have two passion in life, one is ours and one is food. And one day I just decided to combine the two together. So here goes down with Eileen. I love her not just because they're delicious, but each cuisine represent the history, culture and people of that country. That's why whenever I'm free, I always love to go to explore new restaurant cuisine that are available in my city.
2022-10-08T01:38:24.819Z hibabenft:  And when I start doing this time with filing collection, I actually started off with five pieces of Hong Kong local food because in the few months that I've been in spaces, I don't really see that many Hong Kong people in the space. So I was just trying to spread my culture and food with the NFC community. And it's also because Hong Kong is like a place where the eastern and Western culture meet. That's why I started to do American, Japanese, Korean, and now we're in the face.
2022-10-08T01:38:55.969Z hibabenft:  Theme This time is happy hour. So if you look at the tweet here we have different kind of cocktail. We have espresso martini or fashion mojito Pina colada and the one next to happy hour with Eileen you can find the spicy Margarita. So the goal for this happy hour phase is to help you to recall the good time that you have like after work just chill with colleague or go to.
2022-10-08T01:39:01.325Z hibabenft:  Happy hour of friends as well, so I hope you guys like my project. Thank you.
2022-10-08T01:39:05.394Z Blue2black:  Now, of course we like it. And yeah, you do have.
2022-10-08T01:39:22.153Z Blue2black:  Cute babies there. And I like the fact that you say that we don't all have to grow up and to, you know, just grow out of our toys. That's really important. So I resonate with that. And so now coming back to the marketing.
2022-10-08T01:39:22.811Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:39:53.652Z Blue2black:  That's about your experience in the marketing and you know you seem quite well trained in delivering your your speech about it and quite clear. So tell us about that as well. How did you develop your, your show skill, if we can call it that and what type of marketing are you using? Are you just using mainly Twitter spaces for your marketing or you're using other social platforms or you're using anything else like?
2022-10-08T01:39:57.136Z Blue2black:  Google or anything like that. Please tell us about your marketing.
2022-10-08T01:40:10.046Z hibabenft:  Sure are. Currently I'm just using Twitter and I've tried to set up my Instagram account, but I just set it up a few days ago.
2022-10-08T01:40:24.8Z hibabenft:  Uh, but when I look at my project, I don't really think about marketing like. Obviously I do tweet like everyday, but then I think the important thing is to build your own community like.
2022-10-08T01:40:32.781Z hibabenft:  In the NFC space, especially in this bear market, like if you want people to buy from you.
2022-10-08T01:40:38.916Z hibabenft:  Or to look at your project really just to look at it like you have to.
2022-10-08T01:41:07.927Z hibabenft:  Like build relationships with people in the space. And the best way I've found to build a relationship is to join spaces, really to get to know each other. Cause I I'm an individual artist, I don't really have a big project. So my goal here like is really to meet different people and see what kind of technology are out there, what kind of project people are putting out.
2022-10-08T01:41:09.952Z hibabenft:  And.
2022-10-08T01:41:10.729Z hibabenft:  Yeah.
2022-10-08T01:41:14.423Z hibabenft:  
2022-10-08T01:41:32.565Z Blue2black:  Now, in your experience, if we would say who is your perfect dogged audience, then do you know who your perfect dogged audience is? Is it mainly women? Is it? Is it? Does it fall over different categories? Is it, you know, mainly younger women?
2022-10-08T01:41:38.622Z Blue2black:  Do you know who your target audience is or who have been the people buying from you so far?
2022-10-08T01:41:47.548Z hibabenft:  So for the highway project, I do find that my target audience would be like.
2022-10-08T01:41:50.106Z hibabenft:  
2022-10-08T01:41:58.664Z hibabenft:  Female, but also parents because normally like parents, they have kids, they keep their kid loves baby doll.
2022-10-08T01:42:12.657Z hibabenft:  And for my time with Eileen collection, the target audience is quite wide, I would say, because like for every five pieces like I'll have a theme and normally it's either.
2022-10-08T01:42:20.159Z hibabenft:  A country or like this time is happy hour so.
2022-10-08T01:42:27.257Z hibabenft:  I don't really have to have a specific target audience, but uh, I would say that.
2022-10-08T01:42:35.872Z hibabenft:  You try to keep 2 price point for my, 2 for my two different collection.
2022-10-08T01:42:37.523Z hibabenft:  Just to.
2022-10-08T01:42:47.364Z hibabenft:  Make sure that like cause nowadays most likely it's just artists, supporting artists, the big collector.
2022-10-08T01:43:10.426Z hibabenft:  Are not really in the space like at least I don't really see them as much. So I would say that make sure just have different price points for your artwork. So it's not like people don't want to support you, but they can only support you to a certain extent like or within what they are capable of.
2022-10-08T01:43:17.806Z Blue2black:  Now when you do get a sale, what do you think it is that makes you get a sale?
2022-10-08T01:43:26.098Z hibabenft:  Normally I would say that is.
2022-10-08T01:43:31.553Z hibabenft:  Connection that I've made in spaces.
2022-10-08T01:43:51.368Z Blue2black:  Seems like uh.
2022-10-08T01:44:07.975Z Blue2black:  Okay. So you said just normally just the connection that you made from the spaces and has that been also like a female doing buying that from you or have you been surprised and had you know just some random parent doing it?
2022-10-08T01:44:25.153Z hibabenft:  Uh, I would say 90% of the time I will be able to identify who's the buyer, and they are the people that I've met in spaces, but they don't necessarily have to be female.
2022-10-08T01:44:45.067Z Blue2black:  Yeah. Like you said there earlier, it can actually be, you know, that parent, you know, so that can actually, you know, play a big role in your target audience. But it's just really about defining your target audience. And this one is say, give a shout out to the Centaurus. I man, I see you there, killer.
2022-10-08T01:44:54.909Z Blue2black:  Killer Clown, killer clown. I see you there, MD. I see you there. And dashi Qtm cover Saki 1.
2022-10-08T01:45:03.987Z Blue2black:  Knowledge all you guys, thank you very much for being here in ebira. I actually wished you could speak to us because you are such a.
2022-10-08T01:45:13.331Z Blue2black:  Friendly voice that anybody would just brighten up their day just listening to you. So I really do hope you come and chill with us, but.
2022-10-08T01:45:33.916Z Blue2black:  Here's a it's really just the conversation is about marketing. And Kabira actually wanna give the Mike to you a bit so that you can give your input to, you know, these people in terms of marketing because you have projects that are up and running and you know you have all these.
2022-10-08T01:45:44.593Z Blue2black:  These obstacles that you've already kinda crossed and I think that there's a lot of wisdom in that. So anything you want you can just kind of share with us there, Kabir if you're online.
2022-10-08T01:46:03.964Z Blue2black:  OK, so coming back back to that a bit later, Slovo, how about yourself? What? Why didn't you interject? You're on a bit of the reason why target audience is so important.
2022-10-08T01:46:08.624Z slavakurilyak:  Ohh yeah, it's an excellent question. I I think that.
2022-10-08T01:46:19.646Z slavakurilyak:  You need to speak the language that resonates with your target audience, and if you don't know your target audience, then you're essentially speaking to everyone.
2022-10-08T01:46:36.137Z slavakurilyak:  And that's where you miss opportunities. So the reason why you would find out what kind of demographic works better for you or what works with your project is because you want to be able to speak to them on, not just the.
2022-10-08T01:47:07.458Z slavakurilyak:  You know the conversational level, but also on on the emotional level. So a simple example is if your target audience is woman and specifically if it's middle-aged women who already have kids, you're going to speak to them on a level that resonates with their challenges, their or they're kind of their pain points. Maybe it's how you know they struggle to do everything and you know you want to help them to feel appreciated for the all the work.
2022-10-08T01:47:27.665Z slavakurilyak:  Are doing so you do need to learn who is your audience, and in order to do so, you need to understand from the basics of what is their age, to what is their sex, to what kind of behavior do they have when they're interacting with yourself and your brand and.
2022-10-08T01:47:59.206Z slavakurilyak:  There are many ways to figure this out. Usually analytics software is one way to figure this out. Another way to figure this out is to act directly. Send a questionnaire to a poll and, you know, get the community to give you feedback on what at least some of the community members can paint a better picture for you. But I think there's a another powerful reason so so far I've talked about what I would call off chain analytics, meaning that all the data that most people look at is not on the block
2022-10-08T01:48:05.007Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:48:21.465Z slavakurilyak:  And that's good from a demographics perspective. But you do need to consider that you analyze on chain data. And there's a reason for that is if you know, for example, who your token holders are or you know how much capital or crypto, how much crypto is in their wallet, you also start to learn.
2022-10-08T01:48:53.671Z slavakurilyak:  Other pieces of information, including what nfts they hold, what currency they hold, all the information paints a better picture. And you know, a simple example there is if you're tracking who purchased NFT from you, not only do you know what their crypto wallet is, but you also know what NFT they hold. And imagine you spot a pattern that says, hey that's interesting, 50% of my NFT holders have a music NFT. I think there's an opportunity for me.
2022-10-08T01:49:10.373Z slavakurilyak:  To start doing more music oriented content so that I can provide the type of content that people already are interested in. Again, this is just a simple example, but every creator has a different audience and encourage every creator to look at both off chain and on chain analytics.
2022-10-08T01:49:42.693Z Blue2black:  Yeah and you did share us those two analytic apps for four basically getting in contact with that. Now you know there are many different aspects to Twitter, you know the different things that works with it. You know anything from scheduled tweeds to you know defeat different analytics and to kind of checking whether profiles with and how much you know it cost to you know if you want to work to sell content or her post and you know all these type of things.
2022-10-08T01:50:05.177Z Blue2black:  They're really any type of tool that can fit in with Twitter and sometimes it's well worth working with them. And when it comes to scheduled sweets and these type of things, yes it works. Yes, it can be scheduled to times when you're maybe asleep and stuff like that. Now why do you use scheduled tweeds?
2022-10-08T01:50:33.275Z Blue2black:  Um, I I know, I know, I don't actually use it scheduled tweet that much. But the reason why I don't use scheduled Twitch is because I try to be visible online throughout the day. Like slow, like what I was getting about on earlier about online presence, so that you know you are available on this type time slot. People know that you can be available, even if it's just answering a quick DM.
2022-10-08T01:50:39.601Z Blue2black:  That still counts. You know, it's availability now, scheduled tweets.
2022-10-08T01:50:45.987Z Blue2black:  Helps you heat different audiences at different times during the day. So.
2022-10-08T01:51:01.768Z Blue2black:  Let's say, for instance, you're in China and your artworks are predominantly going to be bought from, you know, people into, you know, arguments like, let's say you're RnB artist.
2022-10-08T01:51:32.612Z Blue2black:  Do you wanna sell your R&B track to, you know, an RnB audience and you're located demographically in China and now the majority of people listening to your singing in English. So you know now you want to sell your English R&B track, but majority of your audience that listens to RnB are now predominantly going to be from the states. So in order for you to hit the audience from the states, it.
2022-10-08T01:51:39.704Z Blue2black:  Doesn't help you tweet when you're awake. You have to tweet when your audience is awake or when your audience is online.
2022-10-08T01:52:11.122Z Blue2black:  And if you only tweet in your normal timeline, then you simply won't hit that audience. That audience won't be available at that time. So by using scheduled tweeds, you can play around with the timeframes and you can do a test and you can say, okay, let's start a tweet at 12:00 o'clock at night. We'll schedule one for then, and then we'll see if it gets any response. Then you can go into the analytics of that tweet. You can see whether it.
2022-10-08T01:52:39.898Z Blue2black:  Actually had any impact and whether that was seen by maybe two people more than it, you know, now you have an average, let's say you had 7 views or arguments like let's make it 20, so you're 20 engagement with that with that or let's just call it impressions. Let's say you had 100 impressions, so 100 people saw that from you posting it at 12:00 o'clock at night, so.
2022-10-08T01:52:57.704Z Blue2black:  It's not that bad. Now you're doing the next day you schedule a tweet, but this time you'll do it at 3:00 o'clock and then at 6:00 o'clock, and then at 9:00 o'clock, and then again at 12:00 o'clock. And then you go around like that, kind of checking the schedule, checking the times, checking the availability.
2022-10-08T01:52:58.113Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:53:29.162Z Blue2black:  It is actually through that research that I myself how are hosting these spaces at the time that I am. Because the reason being is then I'm trying to still be available, reach an audience from China as well as an audience from America. Because now the Americans are awake and, you know, the eastern countries are, you know, maybe just a very late morning. But essentially the time frame is in such a way.
2022-10-08T01:53:39.621Z Blue2black:  That you know, majority of the people can be awake at that specific time and this is what it's all about. And obviously the lighter in the morning you go the you know.
2022-10-08T01:54:10.565Z Blue2black:  I'm like the round the time that we are now, now you know that more Americans will be online, you know, and you'll know that maybe the, the, the Australians are going to be waking up right now, you know. So you have to really consider that's why demographics is so important and why scheduled tweets and these type of things are so important because you have to cater for your audience and you have to to have something available when your audience is available because.
2022-10-08T01:54:21.322Z Blue2black:  Let's say uh, one one person, as his tweet said to do. You know the lost tweeds that that was posted then, if you tweet right now.
2022-10-08T01:54:52.644Z Blue2black:  This very moment. Then in my timeline, if I'm viewing it at this very moment, I might see it. If it's said to just a home page where you know it's using the algorithm and it's showing you stuff like that, then maybe if my algorithm prioritises you, then yes, you will show up on my timeline and you will won't be competing with everybody else. But if you don't mean anything to me in terms of my algorithm, then my algorithm won't show you. So you're nothing.
2022-10-08T01:55:02.173Z Blue2black:  You're not even a drop in the ocean. You are nothing. You're not being seen. Why are you not being seen? Because. Well, let me explain it to you.
2022-10-08T01:55:08.209Z Blue2black:  You know everything, I promise you. But I know enough to give you advice.
2022-10-08T01:55:28.232Z Blue2black:  So the algorithm is very important to understand. You have to ask yourself what is there? So yes, there are tweets, then there is retweets and likes and blocked are quite tweets. Yes. So quote tweets works very well in terms of highlighting.
2022-10-08T01:55:58.993Z Blue2black:  A tweet that's already been shared and giving a new insight, a new kind of dimension to it. So that really works well. If you have or like something posted and you want to repost it, but you want to make it like interesting again, you know that's kind of your main purpose between block quotes. If you're going to retweet something, then yes, you establish a relationship with that artist. If you like something of that artist, you establish a relationship the moment you deem.
2022-10-08T01:56:28.008Z Blue2black:  That artist, you establish a relationship. The moment you tag that artist or mention that artist, then yes, you establish a relationship with that, with that person. So this is essentially what it's about. It is creating that relationship. So ask yourself in terms of, you know, best best friends you know, consider it as a as algorithm of best friends. So what does it take to be best friends?
2022-10-08T01:56:40.553Z Blue2black:  You know it means you have to mention the person, you have to tag the person. You have to like his work. You have to share, you have to DM you have if you do all of the things that is available for Twitter for you to do.
2022-10-08T01:56:47.968Z Blue2black:  Then yes, automatically the algorithm sees you as friends. It sees you as a, more like a.
2022-10-08T01:57:18.679Z Blue2black:  And more important acquaintance. So therefore the algorithm then prioritises you. And if you constantly like something off that person eats time that it shows up, then the algorithm also says, okay, no, yeah, well, this person really likes that person's art and stuff like that. So Danny will keep on throwing his stuff on your timeline even if it's a day, a day later. So that's really important in terms of understanding the algorithm that way so that you understand that essentially.
2022-10-08T01:57:21.233Z Blue2black:  You're working on this label of best friends.
2022-10-08T01:57:21.095Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:57:32.574Z Blue2black:  Is your best friends and why are they your best friends? Did you actually help the algorithm to identify these these people these like your inner circle?
2022-10-08T01:57:34.985Z Blue2black:  So how?
2022-10-08T01:57:41.259Z Blue2black:  In order to do that, are you actually doing all the things needed in order to?
2022-10-08T01:58:12.926Z Blue2black:  Let's say like make the algorithm understand who is the people that you prioritise. So this is exactly what I'm doing. I'm setting an example of that exactly through my pen tweet, because now I'm talking to the artist. I'm conveying the project to the artist in DM, and through that I'm collaborating with the artist, therefore exposing myself to his crowd.
2022-10-08T01:58:23.745Z Blue2black:  And exposing that person to my growth, once again I'm using a threat. The threat is kind of inspired by the NFT community in terms of, you know.
2022-10-08T01:58:24.054Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T01:58:54.4Z Blue2black:  Getting your kind of artworks compiled, you know, and then I'm using a hash tag. I'm using a unique hash tag, unique hash tag that is only defined around my project. And then another thing that I do is I now collaborate with this artist that this gives me a chance to tag that artist, to mention that artist and to, you know, have this communication between us, this link between us, you know, so then I'm also because of that person now.
2022-10-08T01:59:25.045Z Blue2black:  You know, being, uh, you know, artwork being shared by me. Now I'm also building a relationship with that person. I and I also see some of his artworks coming up and I like and I retweeted and stuff like that. So basically the algorithm tells Twitter that me and that person has a link. There's a link between that person because I'm doing everything possible to show that we are friends. Well, not friends, but, you know, acquaintances on a kind of.
2022-10-08T01:59:27.564Z Blue2black:  Professional level or whatever you want to call it.
2022-10-08T01:59:59.204Z Blue2black:  But this is how you tell the algorithm who to prioritise and this is how it works. The algorithm isn't that difficult. The main thing is it is a body system because it is based on communication, it's based on social networking, social networking, networking being the the keyword there. So I really focus on those type of things. Focus on you know, if you're going to share a hashtags then don't overdo it. You know, kind of stick to three.
2022-10-08T02:00:20.512Z Blue2black:  For maximum, if you overdo it, then you know you're losing. You're losing speed in terms of how fast it gets transferred to the crowd. So those are all aspects that you have to think about, and you know it's not difficult to understand them and the algorithm is not really there to confuse you. The algorithm is there to help.
2022-10-08T02:00:24.201Z Blue2black:  Classify certain information on where it has to go.
2022-10-08T02:00:54.61Z Blue2black:  So if you flooded with the whole bunch of hashtags, then actually you can be reported for doing that. So you actually you actually destroying your own repertoire, you know and it doesn't do you any good. The algorithm takes a little bit longer to process all the all the hashtags in order to categorise it. So once again you slow it down and it might just skip you sometimes the.
2022-10-08T02:01:02.09Z Blue2black:  Algorithm. Sometimes once shit to be normal tweets without any links and stuff like that tends to be the fastest to go around.
2022-10-08T02:01:22.438Z Blue2black:  So you have to explore, you have to trial, you have to do certain trials, you have to see what has the best results. But do you look at your analytics, see what works, see what, what kind of defines your project the best? But you have to explore, you have to try all. You have to do different things and and cater.
2022-10-08T02:01:22.689Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T02:01:45.588Z Blue2black:  A lot of different things and see just the if it works for you and how does it work for you. And I see we got our our Kay Smith in the listening there good to see you again and I hope that you're going to bless us with your presence later on and I just want to see says well that we've got artist my weapon love to hear from you as well.
2022-10-08T02:01:53.447Z Blue2black:  So yeah, um, any questions there regarding understanding the algorithm? Is there anybody there?
2022-10-08T02:01:57.179Z slavakurilyak:  
2022-10-08T02:01:59.807Z slavakurilyak:  Think a simple kind of.
2022-10-08T02:02:30.468Z slavakurilyak:  Piece of advice that I often remind myself is it's a game, right? These algorithms are systems that have been designed and so you you are playing a game and keep it. Keep in mind that the rules keep changing, so you do need to be aware that you know what works today and doesn't necessarily mean it's going to work tomorrow. And so you do need to be up to date on kind of the best practices. But because it's a game, you know.
2022-10-08T02:03:00.459Z slavakurilyak:  You do need to take it for what it is. It's it's just a platform. It gives you leverage, but that's all it is. And the true power comes from what kind of we're already in the space for, which is web three. Or another way to think of it as NFT, but another kind of secret. I would say super powered. The creators have that. Oftentimes I don't see many creators they're using is putting content on their own websites.
2022-10-08T02:03:30.819Z slavakurilyak:  So you know, if you are creating content and you are exclusively relying on platforms like Twitter, then I strongly recommend you look at setting up your own website, looking at setting up nfts on that website and then kind of tokenising your own content so that you're not overly relying on these algorithms and kind of to dictate what what happens today. So I see Sanders has his hand up, but I'll just make one more point here is that.
2022-10-08T02:03:37.447Z slavakurilyak:  You know, these platforms are always competing with each other. They're always trying to mimic what the other platforms are doing. So.
2022-10-08T02:04:08.946Z slavakurilyak:  It's very important to have a holistic understanding on what platforms are being used for what. And for example, you know, there's a content creator and they're comfortable to go on video. Twitter actually at this moment is not the best platform to scale video across millions of devices. It's at the moment tick tock, tick tock is that very convenient, very powerful way to scale to millions of people using portrait type videos.
2022-10-08T02:04:39.353Z slavakurilyak:  Which are essentially videos that are less than a minute, sometimes less than two minutes. If the creator's comfortable to do longer videos than two minutes and they're comfortable to again use the social media platform to to share that message, then in that case it would not be tech talk because Tik T.O.K is limiting the creator to share those longer stories. It would be a platform like YouTube. So every platform has its strengths and I encourage everyone here to think about what are you going 
2022-10-08T02:04:52.739Z slavakurilyak:  Will help you to get there. And if you haven't figured out kind of what platform is good for what, then definitely jump in. Ask blue, ask myself, ask Kabir, asking Taurus, and we're happy to help santorus. Great to see you here.
2022-10-08T02:04:56.555Z CNftmarketing:  Hey, hey, hey. Good evening, everybody.
2022-10-08T02:04:59.262Z CNftmarketing:  How are you guys?
2022-10-08T02:05:00.814Z CNftmarketing:  Hi, blue.
2022-10-08T02:05:09.67Z Blue2black:  Ohh it's good to have you to have you here man. Always good. So santora's I am glad. So why don't you just.
2022-10-08T02:05:19.405Z Blue2black:  Give us that little bit of a fresh air to this space and then tell us about yourself quickly and then you can just continue with that question.
2022-10-08T02:05:21.917Z CNftmarketing:  Ohh.
2022-10-08T02:05:43.652Z CNftmarketing:  I love that actually. Kinda sticking around and listening to you guys and you you guys, poor bunch of bunch of original knowledge and organically I I love standing by and listening to you guys. You know I couldn't add more than you already added to everything. All the topics actually came across.
2022-10-08T02:06:13.542Z CNftmarketing:  But staying the Web 3 actually gave us a, you know, full pledge, global platform for everybody. The mic is on your hand and wherever you go you hold that mic and you present yourself. As long as you stay organic and, you know, present yourself to everybody, you know kindness is free and you know, you do the same to others and you that well, that's what actually going to make you visualise and it.
2022-10-08T02:06:19.95Z CNftmarketing:  Anti centi is you got to have the consistency like you said blue.
2022-10-08T02:06:36.614Z CNftmarketing:  It's a wonderful place. You know, you you come here with an agenda and the in a in a aspect of actually giving something to a community and they'll they'll definitely put you in front of people but.
2022-10-08T02:06:41.729Z CNftmarketing:  Ohh, much of you actually giving.
2022-10-08T02:06:55.275Z CNftmarketing:  To actually present yourself and in bringing the value is going to count also. And beside the point actually you know you go around and do what you need to do and stay organic.
2022-10-08T02:07:06.121Z CNftmarketing:  Organic, organic, organic. That's how I say and it consistency, consistency, consistency. I think like I said, you know, you guys are already hated.
2022-10-08T02:07:23.968Z CNftmarketing:  Gave everything, everything you know, I couldn't, I couldn't actually put it together. So here is my two cents. But I love to stay around you guys and appreciate the time and Mike and I hope Kabir come back and say something, but he seems like he's busy somewhere.
2022-10-08T02:07:25.567Z CNftmarketing:  But.
2022-10-08T02:07:27.025Z CNftmarketing:  I think, Slava.
2022-10-08T02:07:39.424Z CNftmarketing:  Ohh.
2022-10-08T02:07:53.06Z CNftmarketing:  I am.
2022-10-08T02:07:55.783Z CNftmarketing:  
2022-10-08T02:07:59.329Z Blue2black:  Now definitely. But yeah you didn't tell us about the Centaurus platform and I was waiting on that. Tell us about the Centaurus platform. Tell us about the newest developments. Tell us about this amazing cross chain network platform marketplace that you're launching at you're doing and how you this is your baby. You know I'm why should I be so proud about it. You should be the one to be so proud about it. You should have you should be non-stop talking about it when I when I get to you should be 
2022-10-08T02:08:00.427Z CNftmarketing:  I don't.
2022-10-08T02:08:01.564Z Blue2black:  So have you got 2000 words for me there?
2022-10-08T02:08:32.127Z CNftmarketing:  I yes. Thank you Blue I appreciate the opportunity and that definitely take the opportunity and explain what I do actually yes. Centaurus is my baby, my love, my everything actually is run through all my blood veins. You know, red and black and everything. You know if you poke into anywhere any penny any anywhere part of my body and they know Santos will come out the silver, silver colour is all over on me. So yes. And Torres.
2022-10-08T02:08:37.571Z CNftmarketing:  The all in one decentralised ecosystem that we are billing to bring.
2022-10-08T02:08:54.017Z CNftmarketing:  You know minimum, minimum, effortless experience to the anybody who comes there to do a create the nfts our trade crypto and you know and.
2022-10-08T02:09:00.964Z CNftmarketing:  List the nfts for sale. It is it is becomes a marketplace and all of that but.
2022-10-08T02:09:12.466Z CNftmarketing:  Call it on mainly, May we focusing on actually creating the multi chain and interoperability between all of the blockchains available.
2022-10-08T02:09:18.184Z CNftmarketing:  Around us right now and also we are working on.
2022-10-08T02:09:44.124Z CNftmarketing:  Bridging, but that is a later on, that is the end process and that we will have many other features that will actually give you guys a freedom to do what you need to do. And my focus is actually giving the easiest way to deal with the platform and also you know you shouldn't worry about what type of NFT you have and that NFT.
2022-10-08T02:10:16.525Z CNftmarketing:  You know when you're creating it, what size and you know what what type and you know those are all those restrictions were there. We still evolving everywhere. All of these platforms are they're up there, but they also have many restrictions. So I'm focusing on actually fixing all of those areas and bringing you guys the platform where you guys can actually use it and utilise it and then evolve out of it and the progress, the progress. I wish I could give you guys a date.
2022-10-08T02:10:33.759Z CNftmarketing:  For the launch of the multi chain, but I'm still holding on Dave and my lead developer and I hope I'm going to get the date as soon as possible and I'll present it to you guys. But we are really, really working hard on bringing the platform life as soon as possible.
2022-10-08T02:10:35.653Z CNftmarketing:  We are right on the corner.
2022-10-08T02:10:46.132Z Blue2black:  Thank goodness that's good news, because I'm also waiting on you, so you know that very well. So tell us about Vicky. But what is multichain? What is cross chain?
2022-10-08T02:10:48.041Z CNftmarketing:  OK.
2022-10-08T02:11:18.846Z CNftmarketing:  Multi chain is uh, you know, we have a, we have a, we have many different blockchains evolving everyday. The main blockchains are actually the TMB and Solana and Polygon. And you know, I I don't know how many people knows about lightning, but lightning and a flow and Tasos, all of these blockchains are they, they are multi chains. They, they have their own communities they're building.
2022-10-08T02:11:31.611Z CNftmarketing:  And so all of these communities needs to come together and also you you're catered to whatever, whatever, whatever actually you guys going to.
2022-10-08T02:11:34.525Z CNftmarketing:  Use.
2022-10-08T02:11:49.601Z CNftmarketing:  According to your necessity and that each and each of those blockchains has, you know, different power to to create and mingle with. So what Centaurus does is Centaurus actually bringing all of those.
2022-10-08T02:12:20.188Z CNftmarketing:  Change to one place where you can actually kind of intermingle with each chain. It's available on the Centaurus that is a multi chain and cross chaining there where you can actually able to swap the nfts you are making on a some of the only only only certain amount of 1 certain types of entities would be able to swap in a trade onto, you know, different chains, so those are going to be.
2022-10-08T02:12:30.879Z CNftmarketing:  You know able to be created on a chain and a transfer and a swap and a trade. So that is actually comes under the cross chain.
2022-10-08T02:12:36.272Z CNftmarketing:  I hope I made any sense.
2022-10-08T02:12:41.243Z Blue2black:  And uh, how much Commission are you asking for the sales?
2022-10-08T02:12:56.808Z CNftmarketing:  Ohh there won't be um, you know it is going to be 2 to start with 2% only. You know, only when you guys make any kind of sales, once you list and sell it, that's when actually Centaur is going to make money.
2022-10-08T02:13:05.645Z Blue2black:  Now that's brilliant. So tell us about some of the other amazing features that you've got going for that.
2022-10-08T02:13:07.638Z CNftmarketing:  Okay.
2022-10-08T02:13:11.68Z CNftmarketing:  The number one feature I'm working on is.
2022-10-08T02:13:14.801Z CNftmarketing:  Creating the NFT.
2022-10-08T02:13:21.034Z CNftmarketing:  With the ability to verify we are creating a QR code.
2022-10-08T02:13:52.982Z CNftmarketing:  Under under Nsft itself the QR code actually when you when you scan it it is automatically reached through the all of the whatever the chain it it's on it it goes through the chain and it reads it it reads the originality you know sometimes what happens is some sometimes you know they they tamper the nfts and when you're tampering it actually you will see a double you know it's on a different chain and it's.
2022-10-08T02:13:56.332Z CNftmarketing:  Also have a two same same.
2022-10-08T02:14:07.767Z CNftmarketing:  Mitch Nfts actually minted on the same blockchain, so if they temper it too wide that we are creating a QR code to make it actually original.
2022-10-08T02:14:13.678Z CNftmarketing:  So, um, when you scan it, you will be able to confirm and verify.
2022-10-08T02:14:15.457Z CNftmarketing:  The QR code.
2022-10-08T02:14:22.001Z CNftmarketing:  That's the main feature I'm working on and also the second feature will be.
2022-10-08T02:14:25.156Z CNftmarketing:  Multi revenue share.
2022-10-08T02:14:44.191Z CNftmarketing:  Multi revenue share when you actually create an uh create an NFD and that you would have other partners mingle with you and if you if you wanted to share that revenue with your you know partners and you know with the NFT creating and then you would be able to do that one.
2022-10-08T02:14:46.838Z Blue2black:  Awesome.
2022-10-08T02:14:47.34Z CNftmarketing:  And uh, yeah.
2022-10-08T02:14:48.857Z Blue2black:  Yeah.
2022-10-08T02:14:52.834Z CNftmarketing:  And also that that will be extended to a split royalties under that?
2022-10-08T02:15:02.222Z Blue2black:  So that means you you buy menting with centauris, you don't necessarily have to have a smart contract is am I correct?
2022-10-08T02:15:20.633Z CNftmarketing:  That is definitely that's what we are trying to avoid. You know, you do not have to. You would have a more features than any other platforms offering. Actually when you're creating it, you would have a easy way to integrate if you're if you.
2022-10-08T02:15:40.016Z CNftmarketing:  If you have to create a NFT, that NFT needs to have any kind of other parts of inclusion needed it and the Centaurus will provide it. And you know, like you said, you know smart writing of smart contract goal actually.
2022-10-08T02:15:58.12Z CNftmarketing:  You're gonna need to have your own, uh, landing page and your own page to kind of, you know, integrate all of that. You would you would actually wouldn't need to have all of those to create NFT on a Centaurus. Centaurus will provide that.
2022-10-08T02:16:05.702Z Blue2black:  So you can you can basically mint on Centaurus and.
2022-10-08T02:16:12.483Z Blue2black:  Am I correct? You can mint on Centaurus and you can automatically do collaborations on Centaurus.
2022-10-08T02:16:28.141Z Blue2black:  And uh, I hear a big thing coming out now. Is the ability to to add to, to give a royal like royalties or something to charities, is that also going to be a feature on the Centaurus?
2022-10-08T02:16:32.721Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T02:16:59.482Z CNftmarketing:  Of course yes that is that is where the royalty splits comes in the picture. You know when you creating, when you're creating the NFT itself, you will have a multi option where you will actually include that one. You know if you have you can name it and you can actually address it to the address that wallet to split that royalties to whatever that whatever the entity are whatever the charity, whatever.
2022-10-08T02:17:08.894Z CNftmarketing:  The person you wanted to actually divide that into, you could do that that smart. That automatically creates the smart contracts.
2022-10-08T02:17:10.496Z CNftmarketing:  For that entire.
2022-10-08T02:17:12.258Z CNftmarketing:  Election you.
2022-10-08T02:17:12.486Z Blue2black:  Not well.
2022-10-08T02:17:20.821Z Blue2black:  Are like we've discussed before, I am actually hanging on for you in order to launch this nfts of blue to black.
2022-10-08T02:17:22.086Z CNftmarketing:  Aye.
2022-10-08T02:17:28.88Z CNftmarketing:  
2022-10-08T02:17:28.968Z Blue2black:  So I do hope that we get to that beautiful stage pretty soon because I'm really looking forward to it.
2022-10-08T02:17:59.222Z CNftmarketing:  I am. I am blue actually this is this is I'm I'm pushing very very hard Dave actually they're really working hard and you know it's it's not easy to put together you know they have to spend a lot of time and that there is it's not only they've actually there's three other people working behind it and and I appreciate your patience and waiting on me and I promise you will you won't be disappointed once we actually launched and you will be very very happy.
2022-10-08T02:18:10.221Z CNftmarketing:  And the major major feature we are bringing to the platform is decentralization. We're going to be completely decentralised. That means decentralised.
2022-10-08T02:18:11.747Z CNftmarketing:  We're not going.
2022-10-08T02:18:11.796Z Blue2black:  Now.
2022-10-08T02:18:13.473Z CNftmarketing:  In Goa.
2022-10-08T02:18:18.442Z Blue2black:  But, you know, this is the beautiful thing, you know?
2022-10-08T02:18:49.653Z Blue2black:  Supporting one another is really essential in the spaces, you know, like I've been, I've been following you about the Centaurus project for quite a while and I've been listening to Kabir about NT talk and I've been listening to Slava about Phoenix. And, you know, it really is very important to actually, you know, understand that, you know, the people you support are essentially going to be the people that support you, so.
2022-10-08T02:18:58.255Z Blue2black:  This is very important in understanding the dynamic of the spices in order for you to really get.
2022-10-08T02:19:22.161Z Blue2black:  Notice or to be valuable, you have to be valuable back, and you have to understand that in terms of being in spaces. If you want an audience to be a good audience, to be a meaningful audience, or for friends to be a meaningful friends, then you have to show that you can be just as valuable back to them. So yes.
2022-10-08T02:19:23.692Z CNftmarketing:  I think uh.
2022-10-08T02:19:24.498Z Blue2black:  Do you think?
2022-10-08T02:19:27.045Z CNftmarketing:  Sorry, I.
2022-10-08T02:19:58.015Z CNftmarketing:  Is that okay? Yeah definitely. And you know, blue you were one-of-a-kind man. You know you were a wisest man I ever could come across on the on the spaces and your patience and you, your your knowledge, your sharing, you know your your kindness to others and you giving to others what necessarily need to know. It's it's awesome. You know I, I, I admire you, actually, as a friend and as somebody.
2022-10-08T02:20:28.303Z CNftmarketing:  I actually can learn a lot from you. I am not a very good talker. You know my I'm gonna go here and there in and out, and I don't have the wording right, but hopefully I'm making sense. Sometimes I kind of mumble around, but pardon me, I'm going to try my best to kind of give you guys. But if any, any technical side of the questions. If we need to know we are going to have a space tomorrow. If you all can attend the space, you know we will have a like.
2022-10-08T02:20:45.143Z CNftmarketing:  Be going to give a good side of actually security and the protection on the on the Centaurus since we had that you know BNB hack. So we're going to talk about that if you all can come there and enjoy the talk of there. I'll if you have a questions actually.
2022-10-08T02:20:47.979Z CNftmarketing:  More than the technicians gonna be there.
2022-10-08T02:20:48.963Z CNftmarketing:  Tax.
2022-10-08T02:20:53.356Z CNftmarketing:  So Slava, what you up to?
2022-10-08T02:21:00.9Z slavakurilyak:  Ohh yeah.
2022-10-08T02:21:04.057Z Blue2black:  I like how I was trying to divert the attention away from himself to slower. That was just all that was. That was perfect.
2022-10-08T02:21:07.154Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T02:21:13.966Z slavakurilyak:  Smooth pleasure. I just did a pen tweet to what Centauris mentioned for the Twitter space. Hopefully I got it right, maybe not.
2022-10-08T02:21:17.192Z CNftmarketing:  Thank.
2022-10-08T02:21:17.333Z Blue2black:  Let me have a look.
2022-10-08T02:21:49.239Z CNftmarketing:  That's that's supporting each other is A is a, is a great. I think we you know learning and going yourself and presenting yourself and you know giving what you have and also you know being kind to the others. He's going to go a long way. I think we we we most of us all of most of us here know how to do what you do with that. So that's why we are actually coming back to each other and also I wanted to add something here everyone you know whoever whoever whoever they are listening to this.
2022-10-08T02:21:50.682Z CNftmarketing:  We need to.
2022-10-08T02:21:53.042Z CNftmarketing:  Have that ping.
2022-10-08T02:21:55.354Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T02:22:14.791Z CNftmarketing:  Click that you know, um, Mark that bell. If you know if you like anybody mark that bell, then you would know when they tweet and you right away, you support them and that's how you're going to kinda keep yourself up with them. So that's a that's a good way to keep up with, especially on the Twitter anyway.
2022-10-08T02:22:16.661Z CNftmarketing:  I just wanted to add that.
2022-10-08T02:22:19.428Z CNftmarketing:  
2022-10-08T02:22:32.998Z slavakurilyak:  Yes.
2022-10-08T02:22:34.09Z Blue2black:  So slow. I was just checking your profile there and I see you got this complicated pint with the the new token your your C 35 something that just got launched. So what is that?
2022-10-08T02:22:52.441Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T02:22:53.481Z slavakurilyak:  Ohh yeah, I'm glad you mentioned it. So that is a new token that just became approved less than a month ago. I highly encourage people to look into it so both creators and brands can benefit. I do think that it's an opportunity for NFT marketplaces.
2022-10-08T02:23:03.269Z slavakurilyak:  Adopted as well you know, Centaurus. If you haven't heard already, definitely check out the ERC 3525 tokens.
2022-10-08T02:23:34.276Z slavakurilyak:  And the opportunity I see is it's a new token that kind of blends the best of different tokens into one. So there is lots of use cases that evolve from that. It's great for the metaverse, it's great for gaming, it's great for DFI. And so I think that it's going to be kind of the next token to watch for. And if in a platform adopts it, then it's one more kind of tool.
2022-10-08T02:23:41.047Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T02:23:49.563Z slavakurilyak:  Under creator's belt that gives them new powers that currently are being not really served. So I have highly encourage you to checkout your C3525 and it's finalised now by the theorem community, which means.
2022-10-08T02:23:59.116Z slavakurilyak:  Yankees are able to adopt it as well, given that the source code is open source and the implementation is freely available.
2022-10-08T02:24:09.651Z Blue2black:  So how do we incorporate the RC3525 for token? That's now the $1,000,000 question.
2022-10-08T02:24:16.188Z slavakurilyak:  Yeah, that's a great question. Well, to be honest, I don't see many implement.
2022-10-08T02:24:25.925Z slavakurilyak:  Um, that kind of got picked up by mainstream developers. Yet like I said, the token just got finalised less.
2022-10-08T02:24:31.494Z slavakurilyak:  So there were people who were, I would say, doing their.
2022-10-08T02:25:03.575Z slavakurilyak:  Behind the scenes to get it to that level, now that it's open and it's sort of live and published, this is the opportunity for whether it's, for example, a smart contract development platforms to come in or even NFT marketplaces to come in and build it on top of I'm I I just messaged actually 2 smart contract development platforms earlier today, really pushing forward this because I think that as soon as platforms make it easier for careers.
2022-10-08T02:25:05.312Z slavakurilyak:  They dropped their own ear.
2022-10-08T02:25:18.747Z slavakurilyak:  525 tokens, and then it'll help to kind of onboard people on this new token standard. At the moment, I'm not seeing it yet, but if you ask me that question a month from now, I think that we're going to see a completely different picture.
2022-10-08T02:25:23.078Z Blue2black:  Yeah, now.
2022-10-08T02:25:32.34Z Blue2black:  There's another thing I wanna get to. Um, so you have two different types.
2022-10-08T02:25:36.065Z Blue2black:  Marketing that's going to become.
2022-10-08T02:25:42.264Z Blue2black:  Streamlined mainstream, you're going to have the.
2022-10-08T02:25:44.49Z Blue2black:  Google.
2022-10-08T02:25:55.131Z Blue2black:  Basically. And then you're going to have the blockchain, you know. So should you be using both? Should you be using Google?
2022-10-08T02:26:04.118Z Blue2black:  Or should you just stay stick with decentralised? Can Google actually help you in terms of marketing? Can it actually?
2022-10-08T02:26:07.755Z Blue2black:  Reach an audience that you can't reach with the blockchain.
2022-10-08T02:26:18.654Z Blue2black:  So I'll, I'll raise that question to all of you on the panel here santorus, do you know anything about Google marketing?
2022-10-08T02:26:26.218Z CNftmarketing:  Um, yes, I can add a little bit to it, I think I, I.
2022-10-08T02:26:31.739Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T02:26:31.486Z CNftmarketing:  We already approached actually approached to do a Google marketing for Centaurus.
2022-10-08T02:26:44.958Z CNftmarketing:  And we're not succeed. And as you know when you mention the nfts and and a sales and the tokens, they're actually avoiding the advertising.
2022-10-08T02:26:46.884Z CNftmarketing:  So.
2022-10-08T02:26:48.86Z CNftmarketing:  You know, especially.
2022-10-08T02:26:55.038Z CNftmarketing:  I don't know how to actually, uh, rebrand it and, you know, go back to them because.
2022-10-08T02:27:07.379Z CNftmarketing:  The lot of lot of web two Web 2 communities are there and you know the the reach out to the reach of there is going to be huge if you're able to present yourself on the Google.
2022-10-08T02:27:08.869Z CNftmarketing:  Um.
2022-10-08T02:27:10.294Z CNftmarketing:  So.
2022-10-08T02:27:13.265Z CNftmarketing:  It's a pretty tricky actually.
2022-10-08T02:27:15.014Z CNftmarketing:  Be tricky.
2022-10-08T02:27:17.147Z CNftmarketing:  Presenting yourself.
2022-10-08T02:27:17.225Z Blue2black:  Yeah.
2022-10-08T02:27:49.058Z Blue2black:  Yes, it is. Um, you have when you're working with Google, you really have to work with with a Google, Google marketplace to a degree. You have to have a project that's now not on the blockchain. So if you if you're dealing with Google and you want to incorporate Google, then you really have to have a centralised system, something that goes through the bank, can be credited by Google and can kind of, you know Google can get their money every month.
2022-10-08T02:28:19.375Z Blue2black:  And so forth and so forth. But the benefits of using Google marketing is really higher than anybody else. So if you miss out on Google marketing, you really are missing out on a lot of exposure. So just a warning to those of you who think that decentralise can give you the same as what Google necessarily can, actually they can't. So just want to get that clear and if you're going to use.
2022-10-08T02:28:19.956Z Blue2black:  Um.
2022-10-08T02:28:38.25Z Blue2black:  Other forms, like when you're on a blockchain and you want to now incorporate advertising or affiliate marketing with that, then you need to have a completely different approach than, you know, centralised, so slower in terms of getting yourself kind of seen.
2022-10-08T02:28:49.827Z Blue2black:  In terms of marketing, what would you use to kind of give yourself that exposure on on on current standing platforms on the blockchain? Are there any?
2022-10-08T02:28:58.443Z slavakurilyak:  Yeah, that's an excellent question. I don't think there is.
2022-10-08T02:29:02.294Z slavakurilyak:  Any platforms out there that can really help?
2022-10-08T02:29:06.982Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T02:29:14.905Z slavakurilyak:  To gain the kind of marketing exposure looking for if you're an NFT or fungible token or a semi fungible token project, I do think that you.
2022-10-08T02:29:17.714Z slavakurilyak:  
2022-10-08T02:29:19.494Z slavakurilyak:  Goods and can.
2022-10-08T02:29:33.291Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T02:29:39.747Z Blue2black:  
2022-10-08T02:29:42.337Z slavakurilyak:  Kind of do your own marketing on your own website. So this is a common practice. If you're if you're a crypto project today and you have something on the blockchain, that is one way that people can learn from you, but you don't rely on that. So what you often do is you direct your community to your own website, you direct community.
2022-10-08T02:30:13.506Z slavakurilyak:  Um some let's say source that allows them to essentially tap into the blockchain. A simple example is if you direct people to your website and that website have connect to wallet button. That's one way. If you direct people to the discord server and then you tell them that they must verify their token holder ownership before they can access the private channel. Let's another way, but at the moment most of the I would say.
2022-10-08T02:30:25.243Z slavakurilyak:  Value for blockchain data. It doesn't lie on a blockchain, it lies on communities that use the technology. But they do have some sort of.
2022-10-08T02:30:29.215Z slavakurilyak:  Use your face application like a website or a discord server.
2022-10-08T02:30:35.672Z CNftmarketing:  Yeah, I think I I don't know. I.
2022-10-08T02:30:39.239Z CNftmarketing:  Below you want to take the mic.
2022-10-08T02:30:41.812Z CNftmarketing:  I didn't mean to take the mic from you.
2022-10-08T02:30:52.73Z CNftmarketing:  Okay, yeah. I just just to give you guys a a better understanding of actually where is my successful.
2022-10-08T02:31:15.633Z CNftmarketing:  Uh, aspect of meeting and you know, greeting people is happening, is is on. I think it's a discord is the best place for us to present ourselves. If it's if it's a blockchain project, that's what I realised. But you know, we don't have much of a community up there. We're trying. I think we need to, we need to have a specialised people to handle that.
2022-10-08T02:31:24.66Z CNftmarketing:  Definitely discord. And on top of that, this is what actually one of my partners and the CTO of the Centaurus.
2022-10-08T02:31:32.394Z CNftmarketing:  Bringing up a it's like a tick tock actually for the crypto projects.
2022-10-08T02:31:38.85Z CNftmarketing:  Also there are there they're creating the like a Twitter for.
2022-10-08T02:31:46.16Z CNftmarketing:  Crypto project and blockchain projects. You know you can present it. It's not launched yet, but they're working on it.
2022-10-08T02:32:17.176Z CNftmarketing:  That is that is, you know we we have a lot of challenges you know a lot of play a lot of platforms, lots of lots of places does not support it. It's not because it actually they don't want to they really don't understand what's going on in this world most places. So you know when they realise it of course you know we probably able to get some kind of idea and help but until then I think the best places right where we are Twitter and discord.
2022-10-08T02:32:27.726Z CNftmarketing:  In the other places, to tap into other places, you have to be very, very creative. And if you're presenting yourself as a defy, then you definitely decentralization. You don't have much of a choice.
2022-10-08T02:32:35.877Z Blue2black:  Now.
2022-10-08T02:32:42.46Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:32:44.791Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:32:49.204Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:32:52.002Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:32:58.219Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:33:00.318Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:33:05.354Z slavakurilyak:  I wanted to thank Blue for hosting this space. I do need to jump off. It is getting quite late. It's 8:00 PM my time here, but I do want to appreciate everyone for being here. It's it's great to see so many familiar faces and some such a great conversation around kind of the latest developments, said Doris. Thanks very much for giving us some new alpha on your project. It's great that you're, you're kind of moving forward with your project and it looks like things are moving quite quickly there.
2022-10-08T02:33:16.021Z slavakurilyak:  Tomorrow for those grabbing checked it out yet. I did a pin tweet, so definitely look at the upcoming space for that conversation. I also wanted to.
2022-10-08T02:33:22.193Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:33:21.611Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:33:24.736Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:33:38.711Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:33:50.982Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:33:48.185Z slavakurilyak:  Say my kind of final words of kind of what I wanted to play across is that I recently set up a newsletter from review, which is a built in system that can be mentioned before that is kind of integrated into Twitter. So if you guys haven't done so already, I encourage you to hit my profile on Twitter and then go to subscribe and you'll be able to essentially get an e-mail from me. I do want to keep these emails as concise and as infrequent as possible.
2022-10-08T02:33:57.348Z slavakurilyak:  I'm thinking once a week, unless you guys have other opinions I'm happy to listen, but I do need to jump off. So thanks very much for hosting space, for your conversation and for your time.
2022-10-08T02:34:02.533Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:34:05.616Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:34:17.033Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:34:19.185Z kabirevoknow:  
2022-10-08T02:34:21.007Z Blue2black:  Always a pleasure, always good having you your yesa. I do think it's getting quite late. We should probably be closing off now. So let's have a few final speeches and then we can close down. So, kabiri, you want to have some final words stay for us.
2022-10-08T02:34:50.739Z kabirevoknow:  Sure, sure. Slava. Uh, I just subscribed. Good job. Good job. I mean, I cannot stress, uh, you know how important it is to have an e-mail e-mail list and tutor makes it so simple. It should be everybody's in a profile that you know you you just ask for an e-mail address and we should have a we should have a monthly get together just to see how many e-mail addresses we got. And you know, just to have fun fun with it because it is not, it is not, it is not easy.
2022-10-08T02:35:21.144Z kabirevoknow:  It is not hard, but for some reason people don't want to give you their e-mail address which they have five each, you know five of them. Most likely they don't want to give their e-mail address. But it is so important because if you ever get disconnected from Twitter, if you ever for some reason your account is something happens and you start a new account or you move on, you need to use that e-mail address to reach out to the friends that you had. And that is such an easy tool. Guys, please do 
2022-10-08T02:35:51.879Z kabirevoknow:  I'm all I just subscribed and I recommend everyone to try it. It is an old tested tried technology. e-mail just it's not dead it's completely alive and kicking. You know they e-mail marketing is not dead guys don't think that's the you know grandpa's grandpa's you know marketing system. It is how the world still operates and I think you know if we can all have thousands of e-mail addresses in our you know if we had hundreds of friends and their e-mail addresses in our e-mail box in e-mail list.
2022-10-08T02:36:22.509Z kabirevoknow:  And then we can reach out to them anyway we please. You don't have to rely on anybody else. And that's the that's the first thing I would ask. You know everybody try it and Twitter makes it super easy which is great. So let's have a good job. I I I, I'm looking forward to your e-mail campaign. I don't send out any. I, I, I have not sent out more than just a couple tests long time ago. But I'm waiting for my 100 then I'm going to send a send one. I'm going to give every single person that signed 
2022-10-08T02:36:27.866Z kabirevoknow:  I'm gonna give every single one of them a paid for NFD, so that means it's going to cost me.
2022-10-08T02:36:58.733Z kabirevoknow:  Less than 1000 * 20 dollars $2000.00 for the first e-mail campaign. I'm willing to do that just to show the damn thing works. So you sign up for my my, my, my e-mail thingy on my thing and when I send out my 100 e-mail list you are gonna get a free nft and it's gonna be cadence hands is going to be the little hands and something else. If if I cannot cover I think I have I'm going to get I'm going to get hundred 100 cadence and by the time.
2022-10-08T02:37:19.104Z kabirevoknow:  So hopefully that's going to happen. I have at least a couple dozen, so alright, that's it. I don't have much to say. Thank you blue for hosting such a long space. You are a true trooper. You are such a good friend of the community and where we're honoured to have your presence and all the people that you bring in. Thank you so much.
2022-10-08T02:37:23.562Z Blue2black:  Any last words?
2022-10-08T02:37:31.214Z CNftmarketing:  Love you, brother. Thank you. Hi, Kabir. Slava.
2022-10-08T02:37:31.585Z Blue2black:  Ohh.
2022-10-08T02:37:32.541Z kabirevoknow:  Hi.
2022-10-08T02:37:37.175Z CNftmarketing:  Hey, I love you guys. You know, great to be around you guys and thank you for your time.
2022-10-08T02:37:40.905Z CNftmarketing:  Blue. I couldn't ask for more.
2022-10-08T02:37:43.049Z CNftmarketing:  Have a wonderful night.
2022-10-08T02:37:48.949Z CNftmarketing:  
2022-10-08T02:38:01.383Z CNftmarketing:  Yeah.
2022-10-08T02:38:04.082Z Blue2black:  Have a wonderful night. Then I say we just got joined by Galaxy again. Galaxy, you were there at the start and Yuri at the very end again. So good to see you again. Yeah. And then I will be doing it again tonight, but probably not for this long. But yeah, it's been an interesting discussion and that's all that matters.
2022-10-08T02:38:11.757Z CNftmarketing:  Thank you. Hi, Kaden kaden. Probably he didn't want to come, but thank you for coming. Awesome.
2022-10-08T02:38:16.409Z CNftmarketing:  Hi everybody and have a wonderful evening.
2022-10-08T02:38:31.528Z Blue2black:  Okay everyone, have a very good night and thank you once again for coming.