Transcript of Art Lounge #NFT #artworks #whenarthasavoice Meeting the artists
October 1st, 2022

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  • blue2black12:01:20 PM

    OK, and today is Sunday, the 1st of October 2022. Welcome to blue to black.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:01:55 PM

    The October the 1st, 2022. Welcome to blue to black and late skate today on a roll. OK, see, we've already got slower.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:02:00 PM

    About how you doing today, good to see you again.

    blue2black
  • slavakurilyak12:02:17 PM

    Hi, blue.

    slavakurilyak
  • blue2black12:02:18 PM

    Yes, I despise has just started and today we're just going to be um just getting to know new people in the spaces and here they stories see what they are doing and justice hopefully getting people.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:02:21 PM

    Ice lover, what are you up to?

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:02:28 PM

    What have you been up to lately?

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:02:35 PM

    And then we've also got sanctuary of happiness.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:02:41 PM

    And we've got pinwheel.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:02:45 PM

    Welcome pinwheel. Welcome sanctuary.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:03:02 PM

    How you'll doing today? I hope you're in for a long time. I know that we all kind of get to know each other through the spaces and that's just great. I I love it. So love to kind of know what you've been up to if you reach any milestones or just what you up to, you know, anything is good.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:03:06 PM

    So it's normal. Let's start with you. Tell me about yourself. What have you been up to lately?

    blue2black
  • slavakurilyak12:03:14 PM

    Yeah, I'm happy to share. I have been recently thinking about what is.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:03:18 PM

    Very, I would say.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:03:49 PM

    New realm for myself personally, I I've been previously serving brands, but I decided to focus on serving craters, at least for the time being. I decided to create a series of Twitter space talks. My last Twitter space talk was more successful than than I anticipated. We had about 40 people show up, 10 speakers. We decided to kind of in that discussion to aware people who were participating, so I'm exploring the nfts for creators.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:03:55 PM

    I'm exploring creating topics for creators. For me, this is a new domain, but I think it's going to pay off in the long term.

    slavakurilyak
  • blue2black12:04:27 PM

    Now, I definitely know because you're really, really, um, you're such a kind of talented person with such a lot of information and you're very technical as well. And you know how to kind of get to the crowd and that's really important. So, you know, that's that's just something that I see in yourself and well done and you for going for the creators because, you know, the creators are essentially also a brand to remember, but you'll know that better than them. And you are somebody that can actual

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:04:37 PM

    Them and kind of make them understand just like how they can kind of apply to the audience and all that lot and.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:04:45 PM

    Yeah, that's just, that's just something that, uh, that I think you're really good at. So good luck in that and how's that been going for you?

    blue2black
  • slavakurilyak12:05:18 PM

    Yeah, thanks very much. It's going well so far. I am sending the foundation from a technology perspective to make sure that people are able to receive nfts from me, kind of. For those who did not attend that previous tourist space, I mentioned every speaker who participated was eligible to receive a free FT by participating. So for myself, I'm exploring how to use NFT S to create engaging experiences to award people for their behaviour. I think that is.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:05:48 PM

    Something not many people craters are thinking about, at least in the markets where things are uncertain. But I do think that building a community through NFT, through giveaways, through contest, through sweepstakes, by warning people for their behaviour is the type of mentality you need to kind of get people interested enough so that essentially at some point in the future you can convert that type of attention to a monetization. So I think that free ft for now is a strategy.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:06:19 PM

    That I will be exploring and beyond that I think I definitely will plan to monetise my time and my my education through the efforts on Twitter. But I also decided to write a blog posts on the topic that I did. So for those who didn't attend, I was chatting about interactive 3D FTI think there's a lot of space to explore for creatives and creators and I also dropped the blog posts on that. So I'm happy to to spotlight that because I think that's an opportunity that.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:06:43 PM

    A lot of creators don't realise they can do is that you know you not only can do artwork as NFT but you can also do every other type of medium including music videos, blog posts, in my case Twitter threads. You can really tokenise anything you want so that I think that is a great reminder for all creatives in space that you're not limited to one medium. There are many mediums you can explore and tokenise.

    slavakurilyak
  • blue2black12:07:00 PM

    So tell me about this kind of 3D3D models in the interactive 3D models, because that's that's not something that we're used to. So interactive meaning like augmented reality or what are you, what is that referring to?

    blue2black
  • slavakurilyak12:07:31 PM

    Ohh yes, great question. So interactive does not mean XR RVR, which are just terms to represent an alternative reality. It is a engaging or fun way to interact with 3D models. This is the then kind of the definition that I went for on my previous talk. It is a starting point towards a RVR nxr, but it's not there yet so.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:08:02 PM

    A simple example is you can use your mobile phone, you can interact with a 3D model, but you don't need to wear a headset. You don't need to necessarily have that experience kind of augment your real experience. It's simply an addition to so it doesn't feel like an alternative reality yet, but it does feel interactive. And then once you have an interactive 3D model, and that model is fun, like I said, it's engaging. Now you can if you want to.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:08:32 PM

    Go into the VR virtual reality space or AR augmented reality space. But it is a choice. Not every model doesn't has to be kind of going towards that end goal. It doesn't have to be. A simple example is if you look at a lot of games or even some meta versus they can be played on the laptop, they can be played on a desktop, the mobile phone and you don't need to buy let's say 102 hundred $500.00 headset to play them, but you are immersed in that space.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:08:40 PM

    That is my definition of interactive 3D NFT S and I'm happy to give more clarity if if that's not 100% certain.

    slavakurilyak
  • blue2black12:08:50 PM

    Sorry, all those then basically then, like on a saying they'd like, you've gotta avatar that you can move around like a game.

    blue2black
  • slavakurilyak12:09:22 PM

    Yes, that's a simple analogy. So actually that's a great point to bring up. So Avatar is have taken off and NFD space for a simple reason that people started to put them as avatars on their PFP profile pictures. And avatars are essentially virtual characters. So if you have an avatar, if you have a virtual character that may give you the at least the insight to go into the 3D space. You can start from pixel art, you can start from 2D, you can shift to 3D and then you have this virtual character.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:09:54 PM

    Um, but it's static, right? So a lot of 3D models for those kind of. If you think about the, the progression towards, let's say a RVR at first, it's a 3D model. It's not really interactive, it's not really fun. It's something you can look at it, it's something that maybe you can zoom into, you can pan around, but it's not something you can play with. It's not something you can control unless you make them more interactive. So maybe you add a game like control to the 3D avatar, maybe you make the

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:10:08 PM

    Maybe you are able to customise the colour of the avatar or customise the lighting on the scene. This is what I'm referring to when I say interactive, but it is a choice by developers and designers, so you do need to kind of make that conscious choice to go into that box.

    slavakurilyak
  • blue2black12:10:41 PM

    There are actually a lot of people that that can, you know, benefit from this and how, how does it. Like for instance, what I'm kind of thinking about here in my mind is like building a Rubik's Cube where you can turn it and kind of, you know, turn into this angle and then, you know, turn this side and then, you know, just kind of play around with that 3D object, but just in a kind of like.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:10:45 PM

    3D kind of interactive way.

    blue2black
  • slavakurilyak12:11:17 PM

    Yeah, that that's a great analogy. I'm glad Blue mentioned this. So Rubik's Cube is something that you need to solve. So there is a, an end goal in mind. You do need to turn it. So you do need to have a different view and experience. So one potential control you can offer there is to be able to allow, let's say, the 3D Rubik's Cube viewers or users to pan around, zoom in into that that element. But the other element that's important which is to be able to control the 3D model itself so that mayb

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:11:47 PM

    Elements of the Rubik's Cube and shifts to react to your behaviour. That is a great example of interactive 3D model. Most models can be viewed, but in order to make them interactive you need to have some behaviour driven by the user or driven by the platform, and it changes the dynamic of the 3D model. Hopefully that's a great and I'm actually glad to see more familiar spaces, familiar faces in the space. Rather we thought shmera here we've got.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:11:55 PM

    Shady, welcome to the stage. This topic is called Art Lounge. Blue has started the discussion and I'm back to the the speaking panel.

    slavakurilyak
  • blue2black12:12:06 PM

    And she has, she has three. Why don't you introduce yourself to everybody? Because I'm sure they would love to know you all.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:12:11 PM

    My blue to black. How are you?

    shazres
  • shazres12:12:16 PM

    I hope all is well. My name is shasre.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:12:16 PM

    I'm always good.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:12:27 PM

    My name is Shaznay and hi everyone. It's nice to interact with everybody here. I'm shazar, I'm from Pakistan, I'm a photographer from Pakistan.

    shazres
  • shazres12:12:52 PM

    And apart from photography, I do a lot of other things. I'm a Baker as well, I run a school as well, and I'm a mom. So yeah, I have a lot on my plate. So yeah, it's nice to see everyone like minded people from all over the world having similar interests, but we're we all are from different places, so it's really nice to meet everyone.

    shazres
  • shazres12:12:55 PM

    Yep.

    shazres
  • shazres12:13:05 PM

    Ohh thank you.

    shazres
  • shazres12:13:12 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:13:16 PM

    And you've been busy lately, you've, uh, you there's always some amazing photography that you've got showing there. So kind, why why don't you show us your work rather than just kind of post three of them up there so that we can just kind of look at them and justice, see what amazing stuff here you always starting to find an angle for.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:13:44 PM

    Yeah, yeah. Actually I've like, I've recently been really active on Twitter. I've always had a Twitter account like since the past ten years or something, but I've always been active more on Instagram. So I have a lot of work and this is all work that I've done, all the photography work that I've done before. So I'm just now putting up things everyday so I can also interact with other photographers and I've.

    shazres
  • shazres12:14:14 PM

    I've also been in different spaces like lately, like in like on Twitter, there's this photographer, like his name is Diva. I think you know him. You've been with him in different spaces too. So I've been like on his space as well. And it's really fun interacting with different photographers because you get to learn so much from people you know. And it was nice. Yeah. So I I am now going to put up more work.

    shazres
  • shazres12:14:21 PM

    On Twitter since I'm now finally active on Twitter, so yeah, I'll show you more work, yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:14:23 PM

    Thank you.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:14:31 PM

    Yeah, I know. Um, I love your work. You know you, you really have, you know, your banner really shows a lot of it. And.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:14:33 PM

    Thank you.

    shazres
  • shazres12:14:37 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:14:41 PM

    Thank you.

    shazres
  • shazres12:14:43 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:14:51 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:14:56 PM

    You really have these amazing stunning locations that that you bring such beautiful colour out of and it's like always these natural lighting that you just emphasise this this kind of like wonder of nature. You always give space to the sky and you know you really play with your your your your landscapes in such a kind and dynamic way and.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:14:59 PM

    Used to have this boy.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:15:26 PM

    I think I've been, yes, thank you. I've actually been inspired by a lot of the masters of photographers like, you know, because in photography class we were taught a lot about like as I mentioned before when I spoke to you last week I think, or maybe a week before that, when I first spoke about how I've been inspired by all the pioneer in photography like Ansel Adams like because if you see his work, if it was all about landscapes and architecture.

    shazres
  • shazres12:15:53 PM

    Not architecture, just mostly just landscaped. He never used to photograph people. He was more into mountains and you know, just landscapes. So I take a lot of inspiration from him and from Henry Gauthier person. I loved playing with them, the shadows and perspectives and angles and all, and plus the city where I live in, there's a lot of nature and a lot of things to see so.

    shazres
  • shazres12:16:23 PM

    Whatever picture I take, I love photoshoping them and editing them heavily. I know, like for a lot of photographers, they don't like it. Everyone has their own views on it. But I don't think there's anything wrong because I feel like when you take a photograph or something, it belongs to you then and you have the power to create or to do something else with it. And you should. Unless it's not hurting anyone, you can definitely do it and you should do it. So if for example, I take a picture of ma

    shazres
  • blue2black12:16:50 PM

    Why being in an emotional yes, it does.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:16:51 PM

    Maybe it's just like a mountainside and there's like like like a valley or some water flowing by and the sky is not that blue. So I love to edit it. Why not I edit it on Instagram or Photoshop or Lightroom? I love using these softwares. And then, you know, I make it more, more eye-catching. So yeah, that's what I like to do. Yeah, yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:16:53 PM

    But slova.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:17:22 PM

    But when it comes to St, sorry, sorry, when it comes to St photography, like it, when I do photojournalistic work, I make sure not to do any heavy editing. Like editing is just related to maybe the colour correction, not editing in a way that I manipulate that situation. So whatever you will get, you will receive. So it depends on what genre of photography that you're doing it on, you know?

    shazres
  • blue2black12:17:36 PM

    But then again, like you say the if you go for colour correction and the amount of mood that you can create through colour correction is just absolutely amazing. And you did you know that type kind of like.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:17:44 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:17:53 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:18:06 PM

    But you can still achieve that with filters and these type of things. And you know, but it's just tricky and it's not like always applicable. So why not do it in post production? It's really the same thing essentially, and emphasises the scene and you really get that that right. You bring this kind of peaceful tranquility, this awful nature, you know, all that type of like complicated scenes, you know that.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:18:09 PM

    Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:18:11 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:18:15 PM

    It really is all about the land and the beauty of the land and the human just kind of disappears out of the equation. So it's.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:18:17 PM

    Very vibrant and.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:18:28 PM

    Yeah. And I think also because when, like, you know, we wake up like, I feel like nowadays whenever we wake up, we're always in this anxiety and there's so much stress around us. So it's nice to see some just.

    shazres
  • shazres12:18:58 PM

    Nice pictures, you know, just to like, make your day, like, start off the day in a nice way because there's so much stress nowadays, you know, with everything around us, so much going on. So it's it's just nice to sometimes it's to have a peaceful moment, take nice pictures and applaud them. It could maybe make someone's day. But like, you know, like speaking about manipulating pictures, you must have, like, you must know about this photographer, very famous.

    shazres
  • shazres12:19:28 PM

    National Geographic photographer Steve Mccurry. He was like, he takes beautiful photojournalistic pictures, like absolutely stunning from like. And he's been all over the world, from Afghanistan to Syria to Iraq to Pakistan to like everywhere where he could capture human, like just the human in people. And just to show that we all are the same, our cultures might be different, we might.

    shazres
  • shazres12:19:59 PM

    Belong to different places. By the end of the day we eat, breathe, live. We are the same people, and his photographs are beautiful, but he was a few years ago. He was actually caught manipulating pictures in which he edited some people doing like, the picture was like, it's beautiful, but you know something else. He he put in something else in the picture and it that that is not considered photojournalistic because you're manipulating it.

    shazres
  • shazres12:20:13 PM

    It's not like, for example, if I take fashion photography that you can manipulate as much as you can. I don't care because it's fashion photography and it's something that you have created. But when it comes to photojournalism, you really have to give in the core of what you're taking the picture.

    shazres
  • shazres12:20:15 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:20:17 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:20:21 PM

    Exactly.

    shazres
  • shazres12:20:22 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:20:29 PM

    They said documentary style. Good. Yeah, you're right. You have to pay homage to that documentary style of not intervening in nature or not intervening in the scene or, you know, being like the third, like the outside perspective and giving it true and honest.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:20:31 PM

    Like?

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:20:34 PM

    Like story, yes.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:21:01 PM

    Story like the. It's a real story exactly because the picture should speak to you and that is how a picture should feel for you, you know, so and and he has that power to do it each and every picture of his because I follow him on National Geographic. He is just fantastic. You can actually feel the picture, you know, and it's just brilliant. But I, I was a bit upset that he did that. But I guess, you know, end of the day we all are human and I guess we make mistakes.

    shazres
  • shazres12:21:05 PM

    That's fine, but yeah, so with.

    shazres
  • shazres12:21:08 PM

    Yeah, yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:21:10 PM

    It was his dream was in the shot, man. This was his boom. He had a boom on there as well. That was probably in the shot, yeah.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:21:14 PM

    Yes, yeah, yeah, probably yes.

    shazres
  • shazres12:21:17 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:21:18 PM

    Yes.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:21:22 PM

    You just keep taking it out, you know, just making sure it wasn't in the scene anymore. But like, yeah, no. How do you interpret art, if I may ask?

    blue2black
  • shazres12:21:53 PM

    How do I interpret our art? I feel it's very personal. Every everyone's aesthetic sense is very different. But I like, you might not like and no one else might not like, you know, and it might be very controversial for one person to the other. So I feel like art is very personal. At the same time, it always goes back to I feel like from where you're coming from, from your childhood, from whatever experiences you've had along the years.

    shazres
  • shazres12:22:24 PM

    Um, if you feel a certain way, you will express it in that way. Because I feel like it depends on my mood. If I'm feeling a bit low, I will take very morbid pictures and I would love that, because that that is how I will express it. And if I feel happy, I'm going to take very nice, sunny, colourful pictures because that's how I feel that that day. So for me, and like at times I don't feel like taking it, I won't take it, I won't have the stress of no, I have to take a picture, I have to do this.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:22:42 PM

    Yeah.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:22:46 PM

    I feel like it really depends on what you are feeling at that moment and the expression you want to send out to the world. And it should be personal. If it's not personal and it's not expressive, then that's not art, that's just commercialism. That's just something that you're pleasing another person. You should first please yourself. You should first make yourself feel comfortable to express the art.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:22:51 PM

    Why do I do? I do young?

    blue2black
  • shazres12:22:51 PM

    I mean, I hope you're understanding what I'm trying to say here, so yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:22:54 PM

    So that's how I think about it, yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:23:02 PM

    So how therapeutic do you think artists? And besides therapeutic, how spiritual do you think it is?

    blue2black
  • shazres12:23:06 PM

    Spiritualism?

    shazres
  • blue2black12:23:12 PM

    Ohh.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:23:33 PM

    I'll switch. That's a very interesting question, right? Deep question to ask. I don't know. You see, The thing is it depends from person to person at the same like the same thing that I said. How your how you think about life is how you interpret art. I have this. I have this teacher of mine. She was into Sufism. Do you know about Sufism?

    shazres
  • shazres12:23:35 PM

    Sufi Saints.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:23:36 PM

    No, but you're gonna tell me differently.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:23:46 PM

    Ohh God, it's it's very, it's like a part. It's it's it's like a religious thing in which they bring in. Do you know Rumi?

    shazres
  • shazres12:23:49 PM

    He was a Sufi St.

    shazres
  • shazres12:23:54 PM

    And he had um, have you read the book by Alec Shafik?

    shazres
  • shazres12:24:01 PM

    What your rules of love it's it's it's basically a very spiritual book.

    shazres
  • shazres12:24:02 PM

    Yes.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:24:05 PM

    Love you. Loads of love. I'm gonna write that down and I'm gonna. I'm gonna try and do that.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:24:11 PM

    Yeah, yeah, you should read it. And, um, it's like, it's a fantastic book about feints and Sufism. It's like something.

    shazres
  • shazres12:24:26 PM

    People who are very religious in Islam and they they they they become Sufi, they become Saints and then they have a teacher who teaches them about life and basically their thinking is by the end of the day is that.

    shazres
  • shazres12:24:58 PM

    Everything around us is temporary, and it's not like technically real, but we have to be good with everyone because end of the day we all have to go somewhere else. Like if you're sitting with a group of 1020 people, that time period is just for a certain amount of time. It's going to end. But you and your intentions and your inner purity or whatever it is, that will remain forever, and that is something which will be counted on later.

    shazres
  • shazres12:25:04 PM

    So it's it's very technical thing. I don't want to say more because I don't want to.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:25:05 PM

    Hi I like that idea. I do like that.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:25:13 PM

    Yeah, it's it's a very interesting thing to say. Like I'm telling you in a very layman's term, I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:25:16 PM

    But, but but but how does that combined with the 40 rules of love?

    blue2black
  • shazres12:25:46 PM

    I'll tell you yes, yes, uh, it basically so a teacher of mine who is a Sufi hurt like whose Angel? Sufism. Now she is into fine art photography and her work speaks like whatever she is in religion. And Sufism, her work speaks for itself. She incorporates Sufism in her work, in her fine art photography. And it's just beautiful the way she does it. In fact, I'll share you her work. Her work is fantastic.

    shazres
  • shazres12:25:47 PM

    So I feel like.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:25:47 PM

    I do.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:26:18 PM

    I feel like spiritualism is different from person to person. I have friends who are very religious. I have friends who are atheists, but they are spiritual and their work, like, you know, it resonates in their work. Like how they perceive what they feel is spiritualistic to them and from where they find peace and trying equality. So it depends from person to person. However, you see spiritualism because also depends on how you've been growing up, like you're upbringing, whatever your parents hav

    shazres
  • shazres12:26:36 PM

    But at the same time, you know you have to unlearn to learn whatever you've been taught as a child, you should also grow up and think for yourself. Was that right or wrong? And then maybe you can have a different form of thinking later on, you know?

    shazres
  • shazres12:26:38 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:26:47 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:26:51 PM

    Yes.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:27:04 PM

    Yeah. But that's it. It's so amazing. This is why I enjoy being able to have what I like say, like this intercultural conversations because they are international community and we might as well, like, take the steps and really, like, just understand how art and culture is really combined, but how art can kind of unravel everything because we can kind of like.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:27:09 PM

    Yes, exactly.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:27:24 PM

    Understand each other as an artist. So you're open to interpretation, you're open to understanding and you know, you know, being like absorbing this kind of vision or you know, this kind of, you know, memory or whatever it is that you know, the creativity kind of expressed.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:27:54 PM

    Yes. And like, you know, Sufism is fantastic. If you want to read about it, you can you you don't have to be religious to read about it. It's just a beautiful concept and you can be as spiritual as you can. You don't have to be so religious. Just read about it. It really makes you think about life in a very different way. And yeah, I will share the work of my teacher who's into Sufism and who has that. Her work is fantastic, and I'll then tell you more about it.

    shazres
  • shazres12:27:57 PM

    Our future conversations, yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:28:01 PM

    Thank you.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:28:12 PM

    I know, definitely, definitely. And yeah, I I just find this interesting because essentially I feel that we are all kind of leaving this kind of glimpse pinwheel. I'm gonna get to you right now to ask a question.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:28:19 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:28:24 PM

    We're going to get to the stage where, you know, like for instance, this is a recorded space so in the future somebody can come back and research you and maybe.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:28:55 PM

    I don't know, you know, I don't know. Let's just say arguments like they can find the live, this little clip about you and they can listen to it. And that keeps this extra dimension to you as an artist. Because now there is also your philosophy, your spirituality, all these type of things that are creating a whole new kind of dynamic. Do you as an artist, it's not only your artwork anymore, there is so much more kind of coming into play. And you know, obviously there's vanity as well, but then t

    blue2black
  • shazres12:28:58 PM

    Yes.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:29:07 PM

    Like anti art, like doorbell's here, you know and you know there is like something that's supposed to be ugly is now pretty and that is essentially like antiart so.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:29:36 PM

    Yeah, but exactly what I was trying to say is that it all depends on how you interpret it. You know, like, whatever my interpretation is, it might be like for for another hour, just it might be ugly, it might not be nice. But for me it would be something really good, like something that can influence me, can help me in the future, you know? So aesthetic sense of each and every artist is so different, and you might hate someone's work, but it might really help someone else who's going through som

    shazres
  • shazres12:29:37 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres12:29:39 PM

    Thank you.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:29:42 PM

    Camping Wales? What, what, what? What's your opinion on all this?

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:29:48 PM

    Been wheels, can you hear me?

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:29:54 PM

    I've been wheels might come back in a moment.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:30:20 PM

    So slow that. Tell me something first. Do you travel around a lot? Do you take photos of these stunning places that you go to all this time? Or actually, are you just leaving it for your mind to remember and that perspective is going to stay there, nobody else's or ever going to see those places besides you? Are you taking any photos or have you gotten the for like a camera at least?

    blue2black
  • slavakurilyak12:30:51 PM

    Yeah, I think it is important to appreciate both with the eyes and with digital photography. I do take photos at the moment. My photos I would say would focus on landscape ultra wide shots. If that resonates with people here. Landscape being that it's horizontal type of photography and ultra wide meaning that I'm using the widest possible lens to capture the scene, I think that at least from my perspective represents the reality.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:30:58 PM

    Of at least you know HRC in front of me, I I do think that.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:31:31 PM

    It's important to take moments to recognise beauty. I do find certain moments during the day are slightly favorable to that type of photography than others. For example, taking photographs like around the sunrise, sunset, time during the blue hour I'm yet to capture. I haven't done that yet, so I definitely would like to wake up earlier for that, but golden hour at least before sunset is one of my favorite.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:31:34 PM

    Times, but I do think that.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:32:05 PM

    It's important to capture as much as possible, and so while I have tried to do panoramic shots or even 360 shots, I don't think they're as convenient as an ultra wide shot with a smartphone, so I I prefer that. For the time being I I have thought about using DSLR or even mirrorless, something more, let's say pricier than a smartphone, but there's always the mental.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:32:32 PM

    Question. Do I bring my, you know, bulky camera bag or not? Whereas with a mobile phone, the smartphone is just more convenient to carry. And so I find myself reaching for my smartphone more often, even in circumstances where I had both access to both. So I do think that creators, you know, should take time to recognise beauty, whatever that means for them. So yeah, if you have a smartphone, it's lying around, like, why not take a few photographs?

    slavakurilyak
  • blue2black12:32:51 PM

    Yeah, Mike, the moments live on, you know, that's essentially what it's about. You know? You know that. And sometimes those moments can be so precious that they cannot only be precious to you, but to anybody else that kind of sees them and, like, resonates with them. So.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:33:04 PM

    That would be interesting to kind of see your collection there. One day, Slava, and we'll look at your Genesis collection. So let's get back to double s. double s. How you doing, man?

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:33:09 PM

    Bro, I'm. I'm good, man. How you doing bro?

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:33:10 PM

    I'm gay.

    darblesnft
  • blue2black12:33:24 PM

    I'm doing good. Good to hear from you again. And so tell me, girls, so lately you've been sending sending me this love Power coin association kind of thing that you're doing as well, which seems a bit kind of comedy.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:33:36 PM

    I'm not sure, but like how does that tie in with the old Gorbals brand at the moment? Do you kind of explain and tell us about yourself as well there, policeman, two of those who don't know you?

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:33:40 PM

    OK.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:33:41 PM

    Well.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:34:10 PM

    I'm nervous and to everyone who don't know me and I'm from Nigeria, I'm on yeah user it coloured an FDR piece and I I believe I'm probably going to evolve to something way bigger than this, but as some time I'm enjoying the process and I love creating. I'm trying on mute new stuffs and pushing myself to the limits even though I don't think I have any middle thread unless I'm dead.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:34:42 PM

    About the park coin, I'll be frank with you, is like I've actually been following them for quite a while and and I've been kind of like following up what they have been doing. And I must be frank with you, they have been really, they're really supportive in the NFD space and what I'm talking about supportive, you know a lot of projects actually talk about probably whenever they make sales they give back.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:35:12 PM

    The committee and probably something with the keep up to that. But ever since I've been watching them for the past few months, I think four months now they have sticked to every single promise they made and they have literally been putting smiles on artists face. Probably buying works at 180.5 and you know doing things just to to make the movement in NFT and Web three and they were NFT progress.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:35:14 PM

    And uh, so far? Um.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:35:45 PM

    I kinda like found like they were about to quit poking and the IT market this as well you know from from the fact they haven't they have they have been able to keep up, keep to keep to their words. You know I think they they all deserved they deserve benefit of doubt that they could actually make a whole lot of difference is is not all about making your works look beautiful organised. It's about the impact that you make.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:36:16 PM

    And they have done a whole lot of that so far man and well I am still learning more about them and so far I think I definitely believe that will be part of the whole love parking token and hopefully support other artists as well. And apart from that I I love them and guys you could probably shoot them some follow and I just probably joined their discord yesterday and got involved in the in the in the first love.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:36:25 PM

    Barquin contest beams and I think I think they might love it. I have no idea, but I will. I would just kind of like participate in the fun.

    darblesnft
  • slavakurilyak12:36:31 PM

    They're both. If you can, please pin a tweet to this to the space so that everyone can check that out. Thank you.

    slavakurilyak
  • blue2black12:36:36 PM

    No.

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:36:37 PM

    Apologies bro, I always forget.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:36:39 PM

    Time.

    darblesnft
  • blue2black12:36:49 PM

    OK, now something something else. Now. Now I want now. This is now. Now. I don't worry about love power coin anymore. Now I wanna ask you something.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:36:50 PM

    Tell me.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:37:21 PM

    What goes on in that mind of yours for you to have these brilliant people that you're expressing these kind of like scary as people? How, how, how were you as a child? Were you the one always telling ghost stories or were you the one who's like, making everybody's scared about vampires and these type of things? Tell me about that. Tell me about the inspiration behind these characters that you're creating through.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:37:25 PM

    Like an artificial intelligence interpretation.

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:37:30 PM

    Of.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:37:48 PM

    Well, I I work with I agree on one thing. I was the child that we still scary things and most people can't like find me to be weird and some find it's really disturbing.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:38:05 PM

    Well, I I will be frank with you. I I never had a bad childhood, never had. My parents were also supportive. They were all nice, but I think my works kind of like.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:38:08 PM

    Will be motivated by.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:38:17 PM

    We humans, you know, as much as like, I believe, like we all want the lights and stuff, but I feel like people always.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:38:28 PM

    Have won most people having within shun or we or haven't really shown our true selves and to me people feel like.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:38:33 PM

    Darkness is or evil, but I I always believe that.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:38:55 PM

    It's only in the dark that you get to see the stars. You get to see who, who, what, what someone's really made of. You know, people get to show their true selves, and in the light, most actually like in the lights of you with Twitter and people pretending to be this and that. But when things goes dark, that's when you know someone's true nature.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:39:06 PM

    So far I stay creating and writing stories are even said Ohh helping. I love my friends to write stories and.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:39:29 PM

    I feel like it's a way for me, you know, to let the world know like that most times, darkness isn't all about the devil and think about it. Even the devil. The devil was once an Angel, you know. Have you ever asked yourself what really happened? I've know the Bible said love, but have you ever asked yourself what really happened? Wally really made him change. And.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:39:42 PM

    So I I just want to encourage people that probably darkness is it isn't as bad as it thinks that without darkness, how would we ever appreciate the light we we had now and?

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:40:04 PM

    But darkness still can be used and managed to move forward in life rather than being looked down. So does it. I love creating dark stars, creating collages, and I I feel like I have a whole lot of shit going through my head. Believe me man. Like my head is like.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:40:28 PM

    Have booked over after like my head like crazy, you know? And hopefully someday I I quit all my works on my phone and hopefully someday if I am able to have a PC, you know, and all those kind of like big tools of people, I'm probably going to lend a whole lot. I believe that I'm probably going to create something that's probably going to shake the world. Hopefully someday.

    darblesnft
  • blue2black12:40:50 PM

    But you already work in this amazing story universe where there's like Lycans, and, you know, tell me about like that mystery element as well to these, where are these people from? And if you would have a unique kind of setting, who do you think would populate that little, that little story of yours?

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:40:57 PM

    Okay uh ohh. Who are they? I think that was your question, right?

    darblesnft
  • blue2black12:40:59 PM

    Yeah.

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:41:00 PM

    OK.

    darblesnft
  • blue2black12:41:03 PM

    Tell me about the characters.

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:41:09 PM

    To me, I, to me, I I feel like I always want to uncover stories that.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:41:10 PM

    We are never told.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:41:25 PM

    People who were never known, you know. And so if you take your time, you read most of these stories. Some of these stories I can't like way off from from the audience, but so I'm kind of like has to do with.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:41:53 PM

    Someone probably who for example, the case of Frank Constantine, which was being, which is owned by Investopia Frank himself. He was just a good man, you know, he did good. But you know, people kind of like, you know, the same way the devil was once an Angel. People kind of like he. He thought bad, not really because he wants to, but.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:42:05 PM

    He was supposed to, you know, when people kind of like how to do terrible things to his daughter and he probably, he died in the act, probably where he was when he heard the news and.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:42:21 PM

    And he came back, you know, and he started doing terrible things, you know, terrible when I'm in. Terrible. I mean terrible. Like really, really terrible things. And some people might call him demonic evil Stephanie. But the truth is is like.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:42:41 PM

    He he wasn't really like that. He he was being made by he was being transformed to whatever he became by us, you know? So I think we we are we are all monsters, you know we create those monsters. And I don't believe, like I don't believe in God servers and stuff, but I believe that.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:43:00 PM

    Even if they do, is this. I believe that we humans are the most scary monsters of all, you know, even though we pretend not to. So I just create stories and of about things that people might never have known and probably tell stories about them, you know? And I find it really fascinating as well.

    darblesnft
  • blue2black12:43:08 PM

    Yeah, I know. I can definitely see a couple of vampires living in the um.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:43:27 PM

    So tell me about your fascination with these kind of characters, like where did it start? Was there a stage where you kind of developed this love for these type of characters or was it always with you? Have you ever like as a kid already had a fab have a fascination with these characters?

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:43:53 PM

    Ohh well I I would say since I was a kid and I think ohh that's it. When I had I was as a kid I was afraid of the of the dark. That's one thing out today for sure. And I was afraid of the actor until I had I always had scary nightmares which I really had to run from them. But.

    darblesnft
  • blue2black12:44:15 PM

    Please let go.

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:44:15 PM

    Until sometime I was able to. I had one terrible nightmare, like one I could never forget. I had more when I was a kid. Like, really scary stuff. Really disturbing stuff, Stephanie stuff. But I don't know if it's okay I could share one with you. I could share one first dream, like I can't like.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:44:16 PM

    Ohh.

    darblesnft
  • blue2black12:44:19 PM

    Go ahead.

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:44:23 PM

    OK, when I was seven, I had a dream I saw myself.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:44:56 PM

    Standing in hell. A lot of people say that they see themselves in hell standing and stuff, but this really assume myself in hell. And it's not like I was inside the fire, but believe me, the whole environment was really disturbing. It wasn't something. It was the wolves. It was gross. It was. I can't even find the right word to use to explain that. But, you know, staring at the kids, it's like a gate, long gate. And you're starting to look at the top to know where the gate probably.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:45:16 PM

    Ended, but it's found. If it seems like the gates has no end, you know it keeps going out like you can't see where it ends and looking around you cause I saw like like you know the way Castle is, right, like Castle back in the days I saw brick like on the bricks on the walls. We are kind of like.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:45:47 PM

    Very disturbing. Ohh God I grow some slimy stuff so I can't really explain them. But I was saying weird pet insects. Weird things coming off in the world were like it was so like dude, I think you might really puke. But to me I I didn't really puke. I found it really interesting and when I now looked beside me I found two weird creatures.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:46:00 PM

    Wait till today. I think no one has ever drawn them at. I've never seen, I've never seen any art close to that. I've checked all of scary stories and I've never seen something close to that. And they were so little but.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:46:02 PM

    Really?

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:46:08 PM

    Really, really weird, you know, I think their eyes were.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:46:27 PM

    Dude, I can't simply explain it, but I think someday I'll be able to try and draw them and we'll pick having this weird tools on their hands which dude even, like no one has invited. Those count like weird. Like old car, like Caveman Tugboat Willy.

    darblesnft
  • blue2black12:46:32 PM

    Yeah.

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:46:59 PM

    Really messed up, you know, and I kind of like one, the one on the right, I think asked me well what I was looking for. I told them, I told him or her or eat out looking for my master. And he laughed and he it laughed, you know, and was telling me that it's it's not yet my time. And the other, like immediately the other, the other on the left, I think took a bow. Yes. And all of a sudden I felt like.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:47:09 PM

    The kids, the kids started opening. No, no. I tried to peep through the gates, you know? And all I could see was a single candlelight. Just one candlelight. And.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:47:11 PM

    Dude, like it was like.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:47:33 PM

    Billions, trillions. I can't count like people screaming gosh in their teeth like it was like so painful. It was like, Oh my God, it's like, it's like the worst experience in the world would ever like to experience. And I felt people's tears. I felt people who going through.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:47:55 PM

    Something way more than pain, you know? And at that point I felt really creeped out. But the gates started opening and I think as his, I saw his leg, you know, I don't want to call his name, but I saw his leg and there were folks, red folks coming out from the gate. I saw his legs and it was like.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:48:27 PM

    Like, you know, my son, you back and and all of a sudden I felt like I'm just trying to be fast, but I felt like the dream is kind of like skipped. And I found myself on top of it. Dragon, a real dragon. I could feel it, you know, it's not just a visual stuff, but I feel the dragon. I wasn't made and on the neck, and it was we were probably flying through the sky and it was looking into directly into my eyes. Like we had this kind of like weird.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:48:33 PM

    Connection. I don't know what the hell was the dragon, who the whole hell it was, but dude, I.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:48:37 PM

    Immediately I woke up and.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:48:43 PM

    You know, ever since then, I had more durable dreams. Worse than Facebook, I found like.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:48:50 PM

    Instead of me running from it, I run towards it and dude, I embraced my fears and.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:48:56 PM

    Yeah, yeah, I am, man. I don't really give a damn about that. And nothing's ever gonna push me.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft12:49:02 PM

    I don't know, man. I think I'm probably gonna show. I think I've been talking for a long time now.

    darblesnft
  • blue2black12:49:32 PM

    No, no, no, no. That's amazing. I love knowing that. I love seeing that side. And you know, that's what, what I'm what I'm saying, you know, it gives that other dimension that to you as an artist through your artworks because now you've got this amazing to artificial intelligence like mid journey or whatever. And now we can express those subconscious images, those visions, those dreams. Now you have an opportunity.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:49:47 PM

    Of actually being able to express it and, you know, just kind of tweak it and twist it and turn it until it suits your kind of ideal vision of what you what you had like.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:50:03 PM

    What you thought about what was the inspiration behind it? So now you can recreate that dream and all that lot which you which is just amazing to just like being able to kind of like see such a glimpse of of the subconscious in itself.

    blue2black
  • slavakurilyak12:50:26 PM

    Hey there, what's slow here? Have you considered creating a comic book or some sort of a comic feature of your characters? Because you're describing a story and that story can be, you know, it can be laid out that it has a beginning, middle, end. And I think that is, you know, a great.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak12:50:30 PM

    I would say idea to consider if you haven't done so already.

    slavakurilyak
  • darblesnft12:50:44 PM

    I have and well actually I quit all my stuffs on my phone, but hopefully someday if I have the right shoes, I definitely will love to try those out.

    darblesnft
  • blue2black12:51:20 PM

    Yeah. And really, um, you know, this, this, uh. It's so important for people to be able to identify with not only your art but also elements of yourself that that essentially you are also, you know, part of your artwork. And there is just as much a spiritual, spiritual element to you as what they're or to your artworks. And you know, and you, you kind of become the full picture. You become like the author.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:51:49 PM

    Of, of the artworks in that sense. And you know, just like the author who creates these, these characters in his unique story, now you also have your characters that that are inspired from your dreams. And you know, even though it's it's it's it's kind of covers a more darker emotions. Like you say you are conquering your fears, you're walking in into the darkness and you know with kind of confidence and pride and I like that.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:51:55 PM

    And shaznay, what would you say to dermals?

    blue2black
  • shazres12:52:00 PM

    Hi Darvills, how are you? Um, I just.

    shazres
  • shazres12:52:10 PM

    When you had mentioned about that you had this dream when you were seven years old. So I'm just curious like.

    shazres
  • shazres12:52:15 PM

    How did like when you woke up from it?

    shazres
  • shazres12:52:21 PM

    What happened afterwards? Because for a person that young and having such.

    shazres
  • shazres12:52:26 PM

    A vivid dream like such a like a very.

    shazres
  • shazres12:52:42 PM

    The kind of dream that you had, how did it make you feel afterwards? And the same thing that I was talking to you blue to black about that, how our past and how things that we've gone through, how that.

    shazres
  • shazres12:53:05 PM

    Relates to our art, which expressed like of how we express that later. So I'm just thinking about how you must have felt after the dream, like how you must have gone through like whatever emotions that you were going through afterwards. I hope you were OK because it would have freaked me out the dream.

    shazres
  • shazres12:53:06 PM

    No.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:53:18 PM

    But you know what funny shows, right? You know what? He reminds me of you. You remembered that that guy from the the what's it the green mile? Or I think it would.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:53:20 PM

    Yeah, the green mile, yes, yes, yeah, the movie.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:53:20 PM

    He sounds.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:53:23 PM

    Yes.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:53:28 PM

    It's got that deep voice like he's this you bear of a guy, but he's got these scary dreams that.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:53:29 PM

    Yeah.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:53:33 PM

    These emotions, yes. And you know what is amazing? Is that how he says that there's like this?

    shazres
  • shazres12:54:05 PM

    This Dracula or this this person inside all of us, this devil inside all of us, but we don't show it to the world. And I feel like that is so true because there is a deep, deep down, like there is a side to all of us which we probably don't show to the world, but it is in us. And some people expressed that, some people don't and some people become serial killers. But sorry for that. I'm actually been watching a lot of serial killer shows.

    shazres
  • shazres12:54:07 PM

    On Netflix lately, so.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:54:19 PM

    But I thank you, darling. Thank you, darling.

    blue2black
  • shazres12:54:22 PM

    I'm like thinking of and it's like really late. It's almost 1:00 AM and I'm freaking out. So I just wanted to tell Darvills that how proud I am of him for like saying that. Yeah, it's it's it's a very big thing to say.

    shazres
  • shazres12:54:23 PM

    Yes, sorry.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:54:51 PM

    But the shazra you also add your experience kind of seeing both the light and the dark within photography and in in people. So do kind of tell us about that experience of yours where you had the opportunity to still see femininity, yet there was darkness leaking in the background?

    blue2black
  • shazres12:55:26 PM

    Um, I I really, I don't know. I feel like a lot of that has to do because I feel like I'm a very emotional person. So maybe my emotions, they they resonate with my work at times because sometimes whenever people see my work on Instagram, they're like, you know, what's up with you? Why are you so your work is so dark and morbid and not dark in the sense like how darboe's has presented his work, but dark in a different sense, in a more.

    shazres
  • shazres12:55:47 PM

    Like mine is more emotional. I mean, obviously his is also emotional, but he interprets it in his own way. I interpret it in my own way and I completely respect his way because of whatever he went through as a child and I respect him so much for that. So I just show my work in whatever ways.

    shazres
  • shazres12:56:18 PM

    Whatever feeling I go through, for example, if I've had a argument with a friend or something and that prolongs, or if I break up with a friend or something so that obviously that will show in my work. Because I don't like, if I'm upset, I'm not going to take pictures of how pretty the sky is or the mountains or whatever, I'm just going to take really sad pictures. And that is how I will feel. Probably. That would be like a therapy for me as well, you know, because art is a therapeutic session f

    shazres
  • shazres12:56:39 PM

    If you're feeling sad, you will express it, you will paint it, you will, you might get aggressive with your art as well and that's I think that's fine as long as you're not hurting anyone, and sometimes it's good to be a little aggressive in order to get that emotion out of yourself so that you can normalise yourself then later.

    shazres
  • shazres12:56:40 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black12:56:54 PM

    Now I absolutely agree. But then we've got now CC. It's just returned I CC, how you doing today? And then we've got Addie and Bami and then infinite sprouts. So.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:57:18 PM

    I just wanna say hi to the Cynthia there. Cici, you wanna introduce yourself there quickly? Are you're actually now going to be the cause? But, like, I've got a bit of a mix up here. I only wants to allow me now. One cause to the moment, but see yourself as a cause. Just a slow bus. Now move to speaker. So CC quickly, introduce yourself there.

    blue2black
  • ccdabz71012:57:25 PM

    Hey, everybody. Um, I'm cici. Um, I don't. Hi.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71012:57:35 PM

    But what would you like me to know? I'm, uh, I'm a space host. I just recently started exploring the art world with um.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71012:58:06 PM

    One of my friends. Salo. Um, we've got a VAO heart. Um, our, our project. I'm getting ready to bring that up. Project PFP and all that in here. When I do, I'll, I'll kind of talk about that. I know there's people in here before I was, so I'm going to go ahead and let them speak a little bit, you know. Hi, everybody. Hi, Eddie. Hi. Hi. Hi, everybody. How are you? Hi. Blue to black. I have not talked to you.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71012:58:11 PM

    For a while. Um, it's been a minute. How how are you?

    ccdabz710
  • blue2black12:58:43 PM

    I'm always good, you know, I'm just fascinated by these different dimensions that I'm getting at with all these artists, you know, just like seeing, you know, just the workings of their mind and the moods, everything, how it influences the artworks. And it's just like an amazing journey essentially, you know? And I just love that about the artist and, you know, having the opportunity to kind of explain that to me and make me kind of just see it through their perspective, even though it's impossi

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:58:55 PM

    Like walking somebody's shoes, you know? But still you get that glimpse, that that glimmer of hope at times, you know that, that inspiration, that motivation. And I just love that so.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:59:26 PM

    Just kind of like just being, you know just going through durables there and he just explained how even through his childhood he it actually influenced him to really have like this urge to create these you know really reimagine it kind of grid like characters that that just basically came straight from his dreams and now he's like just memory memorising his dreams and the characters of his dreams and then he just like.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:59:30 PM

    Like use a I to kind of help him to express that.

    blue2black
  • blue2black12:59:35 PM

    I.

    blue2black
  • ccdabz71012:59:36 PM

    Absolutely, Yep.

    ccdabz710
  • blue2black12:59:37 PM

    Double s.

    blue2black
  • darblesnft12:59:54 PM

    No, sorry man, you know what? Probably when sissy's done, I probably, I probably won't ask, ask shares and Slava CC and everyone just pick up some question.

    darblesnft
  • ccdabz71001:00:30 PM

    Go ahead. You were here, um, before I was. So go ahead and share. I'm, I'm still kind of prepping a little bit. I just got my other account in here, so go ahead and share it. You were here before I was, so I don't want to come in here and be stepping on toes like that. So please go ahead and and share. Um, I'm, you know, I I do have some things a little bit later that I need to go do.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71001:00:49 PM

    But you know you guys were here before I was so I am not gonna come in and be like what I am. I'm still in the show yall. So please, please go ahead and take it and blue to black. It's probably not letting you accept or send out another.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71001:01:01 PM

    Cohost spot because you probably sent it out to somebody and they didn't accept it. So that's probably what's doing. Twitter's being Twitter.

    ccdabz710
  • darblesnft01:01:03 PM

    Okay.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:07 PM

    I think I'm gonna be dropping the question to you, Sissy.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:09 PM

    No.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:13 PM

    I just wanted to imagine like there's only one way out.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:16 PM

    This is a creepy question.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:19 PM

    And like I said, only one wheel.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:22 PM

    Are you ready?

    darblesnft
  • ccdabz71001:01:26 PM

    Okay.

    ccdabz710
  • darblesnft01:01:26 PM

    Okay.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:29 PM

    If you hug.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:33 PM

    If you have thought to kill your loved ones.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:35 PM

    Or either.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:37 PM

    Kill.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:39 PM

    Treat innocent kids.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:01:41 PM

    Which would you do?

    darblesnft
  • ccdabz71001:01:57 PM

    That's not hey, I I can't answer that, we're on a recorded space.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71001:02:02 PM

    We're on a recorded space.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71001:02:07 PM

    I can't answer that one.

    ccdabz710
  • blue2black01:02:11 PM

    Just just don't say loved ones. Whatever you do, don't say loved ones because.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:02:13 PM

    That's even worse.

    blue2black
  • ccdabz71001:02:15 PM

    I don't know, like.

    ccdabz710
  • shazres01:02:26 PM

    Okay. The five seconds silence. The silence, the five seconds silence of everyone after he asked the question. Oh my God, it was a that was a lot to take in.

    shazres
  • shazres01:02:27 PM

    Yes.

    shazres
  • shazres01:02:31 PM

    Yes.

    shazres
  • ccdabz71001:02:58 PM

    Because everybody thought about it, thought about okay, so okay. So let's let's have the conversation here cause that literally was there to bring up conversation and strike up conversation of wood. What would you do okay? So you're looking at, you've got your family or loved one a friend. I mean somebody close to you, you know, wow, that's that's personal. You've got something that's going to be personal that's going to affect you.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71001:03:01 PM

    Personally or.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71001:03:08 PM

    Three kids, little ones like but.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71001:03:13 PM

    They don't have any effect to you personally.

    ccdabz710
  • blue2black01:03:23 PM

    OK, but I just wanna see see before you.

    blue2black
  • ccdabz71001:03:25 PM

    But it's gonna affect three people, not just let's say you like, that's a crazy one. I couldn't do it.

    ccdabz710
  • blue2black01:03:54 PM

    This is before you decide. Nah, let me just tell you this story now. There, in Dante, allegories, inferno, there is this character that was caught trying to betray his own country and make a deal with the neighbouring country. And then basically what they did is they took him and his family and they locked him up on a tower right on top with his whole family. And then basically he.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:04:21 PM

    Was busy starving to death with his family up there, you know, and they kind of like through the kid, they didn't even care about the guy anymore and they just left him there because of that betrayal being such a like sin, you know? And when they eventually got up to take the bodies away, he was already busy, like he was the last one to be alive and he likes like almost went cannibalism.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:04:29 PM

    And they say that that guy's mind is kind of trapped in hell in terms of like the.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:04:48 PM

    You know, just the story of Dante Lagori so inferno. I don't know if you know this story, but it's it's it's worth kind of investigating, but just imagine that agony of that person being trapped with your family and then blaming you for that betrayal okay now you can make your decision.

    blue2black
  • ccdabz71001:05:02 PM

    I would never. I wasn't gonna make a decision because I couldn't. There's no way I could make a decision. That's what I'm saying is sitting here, like laying it out like that. You've got like there's a conversation sitting here, like.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71001:05:08 PM

    How, how could you make that decision because.

    ccdabz710
  • ccdabz71001:05:19 PM

    You've got one where it's affecting you personally or it's affecting other like 3 random people like I I could not make that decision.

    ccdabz710
  • blue2black01:05:23 PM

    And.

    blue2black
  • ccdabz71001:05:31 PM

    I think I have myself. I got I I don't know. I'm not even gonna. I'm not even gonna. I cannot. I'm not even gonna. Yes, star balls.

    ccdabz710
  • darblesnft01:05:33 PM

    That is normal.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:05:37 PM

    OK.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:05:39 PM

    Ohh.

    darblesnft
  • blue2black01:05:40 PM

    No, that's just the horrible for you. That's just normal for you, doral's. Thank you for that. I really appreciate that question. It just shows me you are all over again.

    blue2black
  • darblesnft01:05:52 PM

    Well, I kind of like asked the question for a reason. And you know, it's more like pushing people to the edge to see what.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:05:53 PM

    You.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:05:54 PM

    And the.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:06:11 PM

    OKC. You escaped that and I saw a shush. Shashuri. Yeah, yeah. Please forgive me if I can't like the name you were laughing, so I'm probably gonna drop the last question to you, I think.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:06:19 PM

    My brother knows. Knows the question already. Charlotte? Eddie? OK, mommy, the question goes. Are you ready?

    darblesnft
  • blue2black01:06:27 PM

    Jazzer, Are you ready for a question?

    blue2black
  • shazres01:06:37 PM

    Ohh yes, yes, I'm really sorry. I was laughing because I was scared to death of that question. I just didn't know what to say. I was really scared. Question.

    shazres
  • darblesnft01:06:48 PM

    Okay okay, here's the question. Would you rather be eaten alive by wolves or either eat another human alive?

    darblesnft
  • shazres01:06:55 PM

    Um.

    shazres
  • shazres01:06:59 PM

    Well, I think.

    shazres
  • shazres01:07:11 PM

    I can't believe this. This is my second space in which I'm talking and blue to black. What the hell like is this what I have to talk about, okay?

    shazres
  • shazres01:07:21 PM

    I think I would rather eat someone else than I can't believe this is recorded. How this is so weird. I'm so sorry, I was just really funny.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:07:33 PM

    Yeah, it's really funny. And that's where it should be, you know, it's just be funny and let's just be funny for a moment. I mean, let's just see how weird goes, you know, in order to survive, yes.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:07:38 PM

    Yeah, in order to survive if it if it was for about survival, yes, I would I would, yes. Eat something else? Probably yes.

    shazres
  • darblesnft01:07:44 PM

    Welcome Bill from the Strangers and thank you so much for.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:07:47 PM

    When you're yourself, it was fun.

    darblesnft
  • shazres01:07:52 PM

    Yes, thank you, darvills. Thank you very.

    shazres
  • shazres01:07:54 PM

    Same questions.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:08:05 PM

    You see, now, at least I know when I when I am in the dark in a forest with a bunch of wolves surrounding me, I'll definitely.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:08:11 PM

    Yes.

    shazres
  • shazres01:08:20 PM

    Thank you, darls. Yes.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:08:19 PM

    Don't want to be stranded on another pig with with you, because then you might eat me while the wolves are down there, you know? So I don't know what's gonna happen, but yeah, thank you darls. That was awesome. And.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:08:22 PM

    Yeah, so.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:08:25 PM

    Let's bring somebody else up so, Addie.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:08:32 PM

    At the they'll tell me about yourself, they please add. Tell everybody, introduce yourself day to the crowd.

    blue2black
  • artbloodnft01:08:37 PM

    Hello guys.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:08:39 PM

    How are you?

    artbloodnft
  • blue2black01:08:52 PM

    No, I'm always good and always good to have you here, man. Eddie. So tell me, before we go double s. What about Eddie? Eddie's always happy you have you have you got a question for Addie?

    blue2black
  • darblesnft01:08:59 PM

    Yes, let it come up. I have questions as much as I can, I can give.

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:09:05 PM

    But before we forget, I skipped lover. I wanted to ask lover if we still love. Are you ready?

    darblesnft
  • slavakurilyak01:09:08 PM

    Yes.

    slavakurilyak
  • darblesnft01:09:22 PM

    Okay now, would you ever stay the night in an abandoned house that everyone claims to be haunted and no one?

    darblesnft
  • darblesnft01:09:25 PM

    Ever lives to tell the tale.

    darblesnft
  • ccdabz71001:09:34 PM

    Why couldn't I have had that question? Hell yeah, I was sleep in that place.

    ccdabz710
  • slavakurilyak01:09:53 PM

    Ohh yeah, I see. See you cannot pick your questions this time. But Douglas, I really appreciate the question. I will answer it. I I do know the space is recorded. I take it that you know it is an experiment, a thought experiment, and I'm happy to explore it. I do think that I would stay.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak01:10:23 PM

    Just because I'm curious and I wanna see what happens, but I do encourage you to ask these questions not in a recording space, because there are a lot of people here who are not comfortable yet at least to explore these experiments. But there is an opportunity and and I think that the opportunity is not only to ask the question which is what you're doing, but also to award people for answering because it's a tough question you're asking. And so to have somebody even come up with an answer knowin

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak01:10:29 PM

    I appreciate you asking the question and and I encourage you to host your own space, but not record it.

    slavakurilyak
  • blue2black01:10:49 PM

    Yeah, now I think it's just fun. You know, you don't have to answer and that's the main thing. But yes, it is a recorded space. But then let's be the hitchcocks, you know, let's tackle, you know, the, the, the, you know, the aspects of censorship of the spaces, you know?

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:11:08 PM

    What, for instance, all the any control mechanisms in place for the censorship or the spices? You know, obviously somebody can report the report it or something like that. I know that's possible, but what is the dynamics of the censorship of the spices? Does anybody know about that?

    blue2black
  • slavakurilyak01:11:41 PM

    I'm happy to give my perspective and then I'm happy to have others pitching as well. From what I've seen on most Web 2 platforms, being traditional companies that create social media platforms, they do have the right the permission to control content that has been user generated. That means taking down hide it. That means even banned account. So that is within the realm of Web 2 platforms, including Twitter.

    slavakurilyak
  • slavakurilyak01:12:06 PM

    However, one way to solve that is to give power to the creator, and that's where Web 3 platforms are now starting to emerge. So how can you create a new platform that does not have sensor ship kind of being controlled by the platform? That's where you give power to the crater and that's narrow. You are using newer technologies that we're not seeing on Twitter.

    slavakurilyak
  • blue2black01:12:23 PM

    So basically, I know everybody's in this room. I'll send garbles your way if you don't. If you if you ever report there's a rebels, they garbles your way. OK, so.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:12:32 PM

    Daddy, quickly, tell me about yourself. They tell me about your latest project, what you've been working on it just. But yeah, just introduce yourself to everybody there.

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:12:40 PM

    Hey guys, this is not trying to speak.

    midas_nft278
  • artbloodnft01:12:40 PM

    First of all, ohh Shanti, Shanti shanti.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:12:43 PM

    I'm ordering.

    artbloodnft
  • blue2black01:12:45 PM

    I I sorry, buy me, buy me. You wanted to add to that?

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:12:54 PM

    I thought you called my name. You said Ali. Bye.

    midas_nft278
  • ape_worldeth01:12:53 PM

    Oh oh, my name.

    ape_worldeth
  • midas_nft27801:12:56 PM

    You're right, I don't know.

    midas_nft278
  • blue2black01:13:11 PM

    Oh. Oh, I was. I was referring to the to a yeah. Addy and Ali. I understand. So Ali will give. Just giving me a moment there. We'll get the back to you now in a moment. Thanks.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:13:19 PM

    Yeah.

    blue2black
  • ccdabz71001:13:35 PM

    There's there's an Eddie Army and Addy and an alley. So we have kind of four names that are all kind of sounding similar. And then with your accent, I think it's all really sound and familiar. Cause when you said Addie earlier, I thought you were saying Eddie. So I think that's kind of what's going on. So it just happened.

    ccdabz710
  • midas_nft27801:13:49 PM

    It's okay for me. It's someone else is going to pick who wants to speak. I don't have any problem. I can wait.

    midas_nft278
  • ccdabz71001:13:54 PM

    Yeah, I'm just who? Who's turn is it blue to black?

    ccdabz710
  • blue2black01:13:56 PM

    Addy. Addy.

    blue2black
  • ccdabz71001:13:58 PM

    Adi okay.

    ccdabz710
  • blue2black01:14:03 PM

    Yeah, at least just give me a second there, please, and we'll get you now.

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:14:06 PM

    Alright then I'll just turn my mic off and when it was my turn, please call me, OK?

    midas_nft278
  • artbloodnft01:14:07 PM

    Ali Ali.

    artbloodnft
  • midas_nft27801:14:10 PM

    So.

    midas_nft278
  • artbloodnft01:14:11 PM

    That's very great name.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:14:15 PM

    Ali Allah Akbar, that's so peaceful.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:14:20 PM

    I take you that name. I feel very pleased.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:14:23 PM

    Thank you. Be here, man.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:14:31 PM

    And hello guys. How are you?

    artbloodnft
  • blue2black01:14:44 PM

    No, we're good. And you were lucky enough that you invited some of the questions from Gorbals, because if Gorbals was asking me questions here tonight, I think it would be a completely different room. And.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:14:47 PM

    I definitely know her.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:14:55 PM

    You know, I I just want to add something. Why only we have been asked the questions from Darbos? I think everyone else should also mean what the hell?

    shazres
  • blue2black01:14:59 PM

    I I was kind of wondering that, too.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:15:13 PM

    Hmm.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:15:15 PM

    That's not fair. I mean, this is a recorded space and I completely agree with slave over here that in the recording space we should not not be asked these questions because, like, I don't want people to think that I'm like some freak. I'm going to eat someone or something. But.

    shazres
  • shazres01:15:20 PM

    Exactly.

    shazres
  • ccdabz71001:15:22 PM

    I don't know. I was asked who I was going to kill, if I would kill children. So I mean, come on now.

    ccdabz710
  • blue2black01:15:39 PM

    Yeah.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:15:41 PM

    Exactly. I I'm a mom. I I love my child. So it's like, I don't want to be like a mean person or something. I mean, I love watching murder shows and stuff, but just the shows, not like doing it in reality, you know? Just the shows. I just enjoy the shows.

    shazres
  • shazres01:15:46 PM

    Exactly.

    shazres
  • ccdabz71001:15:45 PM

    I mean let's, I mean don't we all have those thoughts of ohh but I mean.

    ccdabz710
  • shazres01:15:50 PM

    Yeah, I mean, it was just too much on the spot.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:15:50 PM

    Yeah, this might be used against you in the Court of law.

    blue2black
  • ccdabz71001:15:53 PM

    For exactly.

    ccdabz710
  • shazres01:16:05 PM

    You know, maybe, maybe this is what maybe this is what Darvill's wanted. He wanted to start this commotion and art lounge. Oh my God, they just talk about this throughout the meeting, like meeting the artist.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:16:06 PM

    But then again, it is about what he's saying.

    blue2black
  • ccdabz71001:16:08 PM

    Damning evidence?

    ccdabz710
  • shazres01:16:12 PM

    This is just going to another way.

    shazres
  • shazres01:16:15 PM

    Blue to black, I thought this was about art.

    shazres
  • ccdabz71001:16:15 PM

    There was that one time, there was that one time in that recorded space.

    ccdabz710
  • shazres01:16:23 PM

    Yes, I thought this was about art, not about like cannibalism. And you know, it's just so weird. Oh my God.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:16:28 PM

    Yeah, I know. But it's from, you know, you know?

    blue2black
  • shazres01:16:27 PM

    No offense to double s. We're just having fun. We're just having fun.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:16:34 PM

    I just like the fact that the conversation went to this kind of deep.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:16:39 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres01:16:43 PM

    Yes.

    shazres
  • shazres01:16:45 PM

    Yes.

    shazres
  • shazres01:16:47 PM

    Yes.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:16:47 PM

    Going to label, and that is exactly what I'm referring to in art. You know how art can be both light and dark, but it can still be expressed in such a kind of beautiful manner that you can still relate to it, you can still identify with it.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:16:49 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres01:17:04 PM

    Yeah, exactly.

    shazres
  • shazres01:17:13 PM

    Yeah, let's have something.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:17:13 PM

    You can still see the motivation and inspiration behind it and that's the beauty of it and that's what I, what I kind of like appreciate with having dormouse here because it gives us that perspective on like what I what I was referring to earlier as anti art, you know? So yeah that's fine that's the important. But coming back to Addy, buy me, buy me, buy me. You wanted to add something to to to Darby's question.

    blue2black
  • artbloodnft01:17:44 PM

    Ohh sorry I did not hear his question but I think it is like a related something dark I think so this is not my zone so I'm not able to give any answer on this. But my zone is like positivity, happiness and joyness. So I can give you any related information.

    artbloodnft
  • blue2black01:17:48 PM

    Now I'm gonna get to you. I'm gonna get to that. So bammy.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:17:51 PM

    Have you got a question for Doorbell's day?

    blue2black
  • ape_worldeth01:18:01 PM

    No, no, I do not question for that. I just think what double s is doing is being an amazing.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:18:07 PM

    This scene in this piece in and dispatching a lot a lot so.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:18:21 PM

    You cannot see you. Please pardon my voice. I'm small, evil. I'm. I'm not feeling fine. So that's why. So double shout out to you. Love you, man. You love you so much.

    ape_worldeth
  • blue2black01:18:53 PM

    I'm guessing you like women.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:19:00 PM

    OK. So addie?

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:19:07 PM

    Buy me just your mic is causing a lot of feedback. I don't know why.

    blue2black
  • artbloodnft01:19:16 PM

    Sorry guys, I'm. I think I'm rugging I I can join. OK, one second. I'll join again. One second.

    artbloodnft
  • veohart01:19:23 PM

    Bye.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:19:31 PM

    OK, can you hear me again? I was kind of like, I kind of. I knew I lost my signal there for a bit.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:19:33 PM

    So.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:19:34 PM

    I hear you. Do you hear me?

    veohart
  • veohart01:19:37 PM

    Awesome.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:19:37 PM

    Yep, I do so.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:19:53 PM

    So, Eddie, this is exactly what this was all about. Like, this was all about a question about, you know, the emotions and the mood. That kind of reef gets reflected through your artworks. So addy's not here anymore, so.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:19:56 PM

    We're just gonna shift.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:20:10 PM

    Do, uh via video art, you're now CC, right? So we're going to get to you now in that in a moment, but that is back. Let me just quickly get him back on the panel.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:20:30 PM

    Yeah, my my other account. For some reason it went stupid. So I was like, well shit, since I gotta get back in here. Ohh, since I gotta get back in here, I figured I'd come back in as my veil Arts account.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:20:33 PM

    OK, good. OK, good.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:20:33 PM

    Hi.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:20:37 PM

    OK. So welcome back, Eddie.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:21:00 PM

    So this is exactly what we were kind of talking about and I what I really wanted to get at is just the fact that, you know, there is such a big dimension to every odd and you know, even though you use artificial artificial intelligence or if you use drawing or whatever you use to kind of create the art.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:21:32 PM

    Even if it's just a snapshot, you know or of whatever you know, then essentially there is, you know, also you as an artist involved and your moods, your subconscious really gets reflected somewhat like a fingerprint of you of your personality that kind of like carries over into the artwork. And that is kind of like what I what I was kind of referring to in in double s. And This is why it's so important to kind of.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:21:39 PM

    With your angle as well and kind of like tell us about your artwork and you know how you kind of.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:21:47 PM

    Look for the happiness and the good emotions, the vibrance, the good colours and like your journey in doing that.

    blue2black
  • artbloodnft01:21:50 PM

    Yes.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:22:21 PM

    I love too so like I think I I was tell you last time that I was a hospitalized in COVID and that time I was admit like 16 days and I I have like oxygen put on my face so so after that I feel that every time we taking tension depression and all taking all kind of.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:22:52 PM

    You two things we think all day so that time I give up I I know that the life is not we think that's much long it will be goes anytime even I'm speaking with you it will go like one second. So why we waste on time on that So what you feel happiness and you can share something with some person they feel inspiring. They feel joyful. I think that's.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:22:53 PM

    Um.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:23:14 PM

    Important so I learn from that lesson and then I start my like art with that emotion to bring with everyone. So I created that emoji world I'll last time share with you, and I also share you again one second. So.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:23:17 PM

    This is like my emoji.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:23:23 PM

    Word you if you see there is like a lots of emotion.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:23:27 PM

    And they're happy this like they always.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:23:46 PM

    Ohh so there is childhood there in which child we happy. So all that things I putted that but this is one kind of happiness and another project I share with you that's I'm working with right now that is 1/3.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:23:50 PM

    Eyes mandala, do you know anyone maandalizi?

    artbloodnft
  • blue2black01:23:57 PM

    Yes, yes I do, I do. But you can explain it in more detail please.

    blue2black
  • artbloodnft01:23:59 PM

    In mandala.

    artbloodnft
  • blue2black01:24:00 PM

    Yes.

    blue2black
  • artbloodnft01:24:21 PM

    OK, so Mandala is a spiritual and ritual symbol symbol in Asia culture. It's can be understand to with two different way extremely as visual representation of the universe and internal as a guide of serval practice.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:24:38 PM

    That can lace many Asian tradition. So it is related to like our region like I'm belonging from, I'm Hindu, so Hinduism and also Buddhism. So there is like a we.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:24:45 PM

    Practice some meditation that help increase our.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:24:47 PM

    Energy so we can.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:25:10 PM

    Goes like seem like common man to Superman. So there is a you guys know I actually most of all videos on YouTube and as in our country lots of gurus we have, they teach us certain kind of meditation.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:25:21 PM

    And that is like a journey. When we start there is someone know someone here. Like every person has seven chakra.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:25:23 PM

    In.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:25:26 PM

    Anyone know this kind of thing?

    artbloodnft
  • blue2black01:25:50 PM

    Yes, yes. But, uh, you have to, of course, remember that you were really having like a multicultural conversation here. So you really have to bring us into the culture and explain to us these like peculiarities about, you know, what you were talking about. And, you know, just like Micah's see what you're talking about and understand the culture.

    blue2black
  • artbloodnft01:26:05 PM

    OK so I'm not talk all this thing, I'm just to talk on this like third eye dimension if you can see this a peak I post here. So it is showing that energy.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:26:32 PM

    Ohh within you if you going through with that a meditation or some spiritual way you can create within you and that will create Superman within you. So you will find God yourself. You don't go anywhere. You every person have God in self and we need to find out. So this is a the spiritual.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:26:47 PM

    That picture when your energy is like a merge or is like start booming. So this is kind of it will show.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:27:15 PM

    Well, actually not this kind of show, but I just created how it will show because it is a third eyes dimension. So you will get very powerful spiritual, you understand all the thing, what other person thinking and the aura, white kind of people, thoughts, process and emotion. So this is kind of you get super powers.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:27:18 PM

    Can you open your third?

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:27:48 PM

    Ohh eyes mandala. So this is all about that spiritual journey. Actually I'm one thing I want to tell because my English is not that much so I am not gated you all the right way. But I tried to give some important things so hope I understand if you don't understand so you can just Google it so you will understand clearly actually what I trying to say guys.

    artbloodnft
  • blue2black01:27:54 PM

    No, it's good. It's good. It's good. Now that is exactly. You know why?

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:27:57 PM

    I feel that inevitably.

    blue2black
  • artbloodnft01:28:10 PM

    Yes.

    artbloodnft
  • blue2black01:28:14 PM

    You come across in your heart and you're you're just gonna showed us how your happiness kinda shines through in your heart and you're also using artificial intelligence to express this to kind of find way of you know getting all the you know like.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:28:15 PM

    Like?

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:28:37 PM

    Like, go into your mind and ask yourself, how do you associate things? And then this is also your expression of, you know, doing it. And kind of like finding the artist within you and finding like that you know that emotion that you want to work with, that story that you want to work with, and how that essentially then becomes your kind of story.

    blue2black
  • artbloodnft01:29:00 PM

    It is not my story, OK? It is everyone's story when we when we stop seeing outside and when we start inside. So there is new hold. World is open so it is every one journey. You just need to start. When you start you will know.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:29:04 PM

    This is like everyone's story.

    artbloodnft
  • blue2black01:29:20 PM

    Sure.

    blue2black
  • artbloodnft01:29:25 PM

    You just need one guru in your life or if you know how then you just need to one. Like everyday you need to meditate at least one hours so you will know, understand, you feel that energy within you. I think this is your own experience everybody have.

    artbloodnft
  • artbloodnft01:29:28 PM

    So this is I trying to say.

    artbloodnft
  • blue2black01:30:01 PM

    I know what you're trying to say and I actually think that meditation in itself is kind of like the main shift of consciousness. What kind of created this kind of consciousness that we have today. Because we are, you know, essentially focusing on our breathing, which kind of makes us able to talk, makes us able to think, makes us able to, you know, do so much more than just live in the moment. You know, now we can think about we can we, we can ponder, we can, we can analyse, you know, we can.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:30:05 PM

    I've disconnected third eye perspective on our world, you know.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:30:14 PM

    That I can kind of like see, you know, just being, you know, you're kind of spiritual side obviously to want whatever and whoever you are.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:30:20 PM

    Yeah. No, thank you for that. Thank you very much. And actually, Ollie, let's make.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:30:28 PM

    How is it? Is it correct if I say olive? Is it Ali or how do you? How would you say your name there?

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:30:31 PM

    Ollie?

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:30:39 PM

    Ollie, can you hear me?

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:30:44 PM

    Is this about me or Eddie again?

    midas_nft278
  • blue2black01:30:52 PM

    Now it's about you and I want you to kind of say your name right so that I don't say it wrong. It was. Maybe that's the problem.

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:30:58 PM

    Ohh, thank you, God. Yeah, it's uh, it's in Iranian Arabic name it's Ali LALIN.

    midas_nft278
  • blue2black01:30:59 PM

    Ali?

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:31:01 PM

    And it's actually short and easy, yes.

    midas_nft278
  • blue2black01:31:04 PM

    OK, so.

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:31:07 PM

    But, you know, I also have an admirably name. If it's easier for you, you can say that.

    midas_nft278
  • midas_nft27801:31:26 PM

    Yeah.

    midas_nft278
  • blue2black01:31:26 PM

    Yeah. So, um, Ali, yeah. Why didn't you introduce yourself to us there quickly? Because it's quite an interesting now that now you can also give us a little bit of insight into also, you know, the stuff going on there at the moment and just like.

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:31:30 PM

    Let me first.

    midas_nft278
  • blue2black01:31:31 PM

    You know, just bring your perspective for us, you know, through art.

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:31:52 PM

    Yes, let me first talk about myself and this is my first experience in these spaces and it was actually a great experience even though it was short, about a 5 or 10 minutes, I enjoyed you and I enjoyed listening to you guys speaking well.

    midas_nft278
  • midas_nft27801:32:22 PM

    Yeah, I am actually, I as I said, I'm just a beginner and I only help my help my friend, one of my friends to design his magic and NFC. It's a new collection of his and it's about as I said, Magic NFD and they're beautiful and collections that they're dependent depended on magic things. Sorry, my English is not good, it's not too good. So I hope you'll understand what I say and I actually don't.

    midas_nft278
  • midas_nft27801:32:53 PM

    And have the text I wanted to talk about. It was a bit long and so it's as I said, it's about magic and ft is a collection. I have retweeted this thing and I don't have much sweets in my account. It's just a new account so you can find it easily. And my Internet connection is so weak I can't pin it or anything, so forgive me for that. You know, I don't know you've heard about this massage mean anything in my country.

    midas_nft278
  • midas_nft27801:33:09 PM

    Or not, and you probably have heard about it and but anyway, so I'm here to talk about this collection of my friend that I helped him to and make it or, I don't know, prepare it. If you let me, I will speak about it.

    midas_nft278
  • blue2black01:33:16 PM

    Yes, please do and do try and post it in the space. Do you know how to do that?

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:33:22 PM

    Do you know how to post it in the?

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:33:23 PM

    Ohh okay, so if you let me I will start.

    midas_nft278
  • midas_nft27801:33:31 PM

    So can you repeat that? The connection is too weak, you know. Sorry, I'm so sorry.

    midas_nft278
  • blue2black01:33:31 PM

    Um.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:33:41 PM

    A viewer can you guide him how to post his his that specific post in in this space? Can you help help him?

    blue2black
  • veohart01:33:47 PM

    Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. So if you go in, um, go into your.

    veohart
  • midas_nft27801:33:49 PM

    Ohh, so you're not talking about your, uh, collections, right?

    midas_nft278
  • blue2black01:34:03 PM

    Now we're talking about that. We just want to help you to enable you to post that artwork on the on the top of this space. Do you know how to do that?

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:34:07 PM

    They now to share that artwork.

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:34:09 PM

    Uh, yes, I know, but but as I said, my.

    midas_nft278
  • midas_nft27801:34:17 PM

    Alright, um, I'll try, but if I didn't make it, I'm sorry. Just wait a minute. I should try.

    midas_nft278
  • thevecentre01:34:19 PM

    I've fended for him. I've penned it for him, guys.

    thevecentre
  • midas_nft27801:34:20 PM

    Internet connection is really weak.

    midas_nft278
  • veohart01:34:18 PM

    Here, I'll pin it. I'll pin it, I'll pin it, I'll pin it.

    veohart
  • veohart01:34:20 PM

    Yeah.

    veohart
  • veohart01:34:22 PM

    I'll pin it for.

    veohart
  • midas_nft27801:34:25 PM

    There's nothing I can do. I hardly enter this space.

    midas_nft278
  • veohart01:34:30 PM

    Hold on, I will pick. The problem is hold on.

    veohart
  • veohart01:34:34 PM

    Hold on.

    veohart
  • veohart01:34:36 PM

    You don't have.

    veohart
  • veohart01:34:38 PM

    Do you not hear me?

    veohart
  • blue2black01:34:41 PM

    You're not.

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:34:44 PM

    I don't think he can hear you.

    thevecentre
  • midas_nft27801:34:58 PM

    As I was saying, let me just talk about it until the page loads. Uh, it's about, uh, magic. And if there's a collection, it has 10 pieces for now, but when we made these tokens sold, we will share the rest of tokens as well. If you want to succeed in your metal worsfold and cryptocurrency, or if you are a great artist and you won't succeed in your NFT world, then you and you should have your own magical.

    midas_nft278
  • midas_nft27801:35:04 PM

    Looking, we have made this chance for you with using magical Marks and powers. You just have to trust us.

    midas_nft278
  • midas_nft27801:35:08 PM

    Are you hearing me?

    midas_nft278
  • blue2black01:35:16 PM

    I am hearing you, yes. Um, so is that post that's up there at the moment? That's the one that you're talking about, right?

    blue2black
  • midas_nft27801:35:16 PM

    You have my voice.

    midas_nft278
  • blue2black01:35:20 PM

    Yes, you can. You hear me?

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:35:24 PM

    Maybe can't hear me either.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:35:30 PM

    I think he's raging so hard. Can everybody hear me? Can you guys throw up a hard if you hear me?

    veohart
  • blue2black01:35:30 PM

    I can hear you.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:35:32 PM

    Eddie hears me.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:35:32 PM

    Yeah, yeah.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:35:34 PM

    Call.

    veohart
  • shazres01:35:42 PM

    Yes. So we can hear you, we can hear you and we can hear Ali as well. I think Ali Khan hear you. I don't know. It's a bit maybe it's the connection from his side.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:35:44 PM

    Yeah.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:35:54 PM

    I was gonna say it's his connection then if he can't hear us. Yeah. Ohh, he disconnected. Hi, everyone. Hi, seller. I see you jumped in. Hi, Eddie.

    veohart
  • eddielee21_01:35:57 PM

    I CC.

    eddielee21_
  • veohart01:35:58 PM

    Eddie.

    veohart
  • veohart01:36:02 PM

    Clarify.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:36:05 PM

    I didn't.

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:36:05 PM

    Hello everyone.

    thevecentre
  • veohart01:36:05 PM

    How is everybody?

    veohart
  • eddielee21_01:36:06 PM

    Hi, sister.

    eddielee21_
  • shazres01:36:08 PM

    You know it's our Darboe's fault here. It's all garbles fault.

    shazres
  • veohart01:36:13 PM

    Yeah.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:36:13 PM

    No, that's true.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:36:18 PM

    Yes, so, so.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:36:24 PM

    And he was now actually also touched upon, you know, kind of like.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:36:56 PM

    Just like the spiritual side of art, you know, which is an interesting aspect, you know you, if you consider for a long time in the East in history, most artists only were able to really express through commissioned artworks. So and those commissioned artworks would be either commissioned artworks from, you know, this nobleman or something like that, that wants you to really like, paint him and his family, you know, or whatever he's proud of. Or it would be the church.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:37:27 PM

    Kind of communication, commissioning for artworks to be drawn, you know, and specific places. So, you know, and there was a lot of rules in terms of censorship of the odds and, you know, like the flower, like, yeah, that leaf coming in and all that type of things. And, you know, shame really playing a big part in like the history of the odds. And it is nice to kind of get to that stage in society where shame is playing less of a role and, you know, we as artists.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:37:44 PM

    We really know when something is, you know, but, you know, pornographic, pornographic or erotic or whether it's sensual or whether it's just femininity, you know, we have that understanding and we know how to close.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:38:01 PM

    Our own art in our own kind of censorship laws, but essentially we have more freedom now than we've ever had before, and it is really still important to understand that it is still a responsibility and that the media essentially is a big responsibility.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:38:06 PM

    What's your opinion on that, Chaudhry?

    blue2black
  • shazres01:38:38 PM

    Yes, I agree with you on that, that as an artist, um, you do think that way. But I also feel like it's really important to have boundaries as well, because if you don't have boundaries you might hurt someone by something that you would do unintentionally maybe, but at the same time it like you need to the thing you said about responsibility having the responsibility as well in order to be a mature artist that how do you express it?

    shazres
  • shazres01:38:49 PM

    Sometimes it can hurt person, and your intention might not be to hurt that person, but it might. So it's really important to set boundaries as well.

    shazres
  • shazres01:38:54 PM

    I feel like it's contradictory.

    shazres
  • shazres01:38:56 PM

    As well.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:38:59 PM

    Might just be, yeah.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:39:00 PM

    Um.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:39:00 PM

    Yeah, yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:39:07 PM

    But yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of censorship actually out there. I mean, um.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:39:16 PM

    Actually, you know, we're actually living in a time where I think Twitter is less sensitive than Facebook and Instagram.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:39:19 PM

    You know, I I really just.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:39:21 PM

    They don't know that.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:39:36 PM

    Yes, I I agree with you because I feel like Instagram is a lot, uh, has a lot of policies which are probably more strict. Like they're strict than Twitter, I think. Because on Instagram, I don't think you can say as much as you can on Twitter.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:39:40 PM

    No, I don't think you can.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:39:40 PM

    So yeah, yeah.

    shazres
  • veohart01:39:42 PM

    What do you think, Eddie?

    veohart
  • thevecentre01:39:44 PM

    Hey Bluetooth Black, can you hear me guys?

    thevecentre
  • blue2black01:39:47 PM

    Yeah, so.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:39:49 PM

    Who is talking now?

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:39:51 PM

    Hi, it's the week.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:39:58 PM

    Uh.

    thevecentre
  • blue2black01:40:00 PM

    Ohh, the vet. Yes, yes, yes, the vet. Yeah, I can hear you. Yeah. You wanted to talk? Say something there. Please do. Good to hear from you.

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:40:13 PM

    No, no. I wanted to say something from the beginning, but I just got couldn't buy. I I just didn't want to leave without saying bye bye because I had. I have to, I have to go. I have a space, as you know, in 20 minutes. Yeah.

    thevecentre
  • blue2black01:40:25 PM

    Ohh, but first tell me about this censorship kind of thing. What's your opinion on kind of the censorship on social media? On the media? Are you familiar with the the ICE code?

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:40:56 PM

    For me, through the last chat about the boundaries and everything, I think first the artists have to have tolerance, a little bit of tolerance to have everyone's opinion. Whatever they say, it doesn't matter because what's inside you does not change. Everything comes from inside, not from outside. The outside influence is either inspirational or not so if it's an inspirational, you take from it. But.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:41:09 PM

    Everything comes from inside you. So the rules for an artist are their rules. They have to make their own rules and follow them. There's no kind of set rules.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:41:22 PM

    As you having fun, you enjoying the journey, whatever you're doing, and as long as you are giving positive energy around you, then you are in the right direction. That's for me.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:41:30 PM

    However you call that, it's, it's, it's. It's always my motto all my life. And it's working.

    thevecentre
  • blue2black01:41:40 PM

    Now, I know that you have to be going soon, so why don't you tell us about your latest exhibition just before you go now, just quickly gonna tell us about that?

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:41:54 PM

    Yeah, that's no problem. Thank you so much for that. We're launching tomorrow, actually we have 100. We're helping 119 artists in a virtual exhibition that you go around. Every artist has got to NFT to show.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:42:26 PM

    Um, there are three links. One links to the link, three of the artist, one links to the profile on Twitter of the artist so people can follow the artist, and one links to your NFT the on the platform that you have your nft S on, so people can buy straight away from your platform from your marketplace. We're supporting 119 artists, three 238 NFD, not 11 marketplaces.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:42:31 PM

    And five blockchains it's launching tomorrow. I'm doing a 24 hour.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:42:38 PM

    Space from 10:00 o'clock tomorrow night until 10:00 o'clock Monday Night UK time.

    thevecentre
  • blue2black01:42:47 PM

    And that would work.

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:42:53 PM

    Everyone is invited. The exhibition is absolutely amazing and the artists there we have are absolutely incredible. So come and support artists the way they should be supported as you you're supporting the artist blue, blue to black.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:42:57 PM

    I really appreciate your space. I appreciate your energy.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:43:08 PM

    Because there there's loads of communities are helping artists to find their their way, the right way, a safe way and you are doing this in this space, so.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:43:16 PM

    I really appreciate your time and I really appreciate your hosting because it takes a lot to host to be honest with you.

    thevecentre
  • blue2black01:43:28 PM

    Um, but actually, I'm not alone. I've got the CC and I've got. She has. She has her eyes. So I'm actually in good hands so I don't have to worry about a single thing.

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:43:33 PM

    Ohh, you are in your family, man. That's your family. It's beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.

    thevecentre
  • blue2black01:43:56 PM

    But the the veg I have to say that you know I've been following you guys kind of going along and doing your thing and doing these exhibitions and how you support artist in your own ways just beautiful. I'm a very big supporter of virtual reality galleries and those who know me really know that about me and.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:44:26 PM

    I just think that it's really essential for artists to really jump on the bandwagon of technology, incorporate I incorporate virtual reality galleries and these type of things. You know, it's it's it's a new dimension to our modern society and the more involved we become in like these kind of international kind of concepts and modern concepts of art and exhibiting art and so forth, you know, the more we can kind of like get the artist input and.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:44:48 PM

    This mold, these concepts into even more beautiful other things that kind of flows from it and develops from it and grows from it. So that we have like this, you know, this fair kind of growth and development in terms of the arts and in terms of like, you know, our awareness of modern technology and so forth and, you know, being a supporter of it.

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:44:54 PM

    Yeah, it's the 3P1T and 1F.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:45:00 PM

    Patience, passion, perseverance, tolerance, and fun.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:45:12 PM

    And if you have these, you can go anywhere. You can do anything. Artists are so strong and they are really strong minded people.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:45:16 PM

    And all they have to do is believe in themselves.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:45:17 PM

    That's all you have to do.

    thevecentre
  • blue2black01:45:39 PM

    Yeah.

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:45:41 PM

    Is believe in yourself and just go for it. And with this, I have to go. Guys, thank you so much. Blue to black. And I hope to see you tomorrow. And before I go, I have to say hello. Doctor Wu. He's absolutely an amazing, amazing guy. He's got loads of experience. You should listen to him, guys. He's amazing. Thank you so much. Blue to black.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:45:42 PM

    You said.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:45:46 PM

    Thank you, chazza.

    thevecentre
  • blue2black01:45:51 PM

    Pleasure is all mine and pleasure is all mine and the Vic. I always love hearing from you, and I will be there tomorrow to give you my support. So by all means, thank you for popping up.

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:45:52 PM

    Thank you.

    thevecentre
  • blue2black01:45:57 PM

    And there's Nasri. First, let's just hear what chaser and CC have to say.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:46:31 PM

    Yes, um hi divek. I know you're leaving but thank you so much for your kind words. Um what you said is absolutely right. We we need to have tolerance and we don't have tolerance to be honest with you, like we don't anything a person says you are scrutinised your brutally. Like you know, people just don't understand anymore, they don't want to, they just want power and control and that's it. And even in art.

    shazres
  • shazres01:47:01 PM

    Sometimes you're completely shattered because they don't want to understand what you have to say and what you have to show. So tolerance is something that we don't have anymore, or it's just not the same as it was before. Maybe because of too much of freedom and too much of power on the media that we are. We're saying too much and we're not listening to another person. We're talking too much and we're not listening. So when you stop listening.

    shazres
  • shazres01:47:07 PM

    That's when I feel like you overpower someone and the tolerance ends there. So.

    shazres
  • shazres01:47:09 PM

    Thank you for that.

    shazres
  • thevecentre01:47:39 PM

    Thank you for and thank you for the follow. I really appreciate it. I followed you back and it's if we change the mindset instead of letting things outside that affect us like social media is we have to give things from inside us and we have to look in the mirror and say what do you want to be, who do you want to be? And that's what you decide, decide and then go for it, but don't let anything outside to affect you.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:47:41 PM

    Unless it's a good thing.

    thevecentre
  • thevecentre01:47:47 PM

    Thank you so much guys, and I shall come back soon. Take care.

    thevecentre
  • blue2black01:47:51 PM

    Thank you very much for your visit, Vivek.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:47:52 PM

    Thank you. Thank you.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:47:59 PM

    And C1F, you wanna say something to the Vic there quickly?

    blue2black
  • veohart01:48:11 PM

    No, not really, but hi ohh this is our first time interacting. Hello um, I.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:48:17 PM

    OK.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:48:20 PM

    Um, I I don't know, really.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:48:23 PM

    Yeah, I'm glad to make you.

    blue2black
  • thevecentre01:48:26 PM

    Don't worry, you have to have to say lovely to meet you.

    thevecentre
  • veohart01:48:33 PM

    I'm kind of just like, I'm kind of hanging out over here. I'm just kind of like I'm checking out some different things. Um, you know, just.

    veohart
  • veohart01:48:54 PM

    I was overhearing Dm's kind of checking some stuff out, looking at his page, so just kind of hanging out over here. So yeah, thanks for hanging out in this space. I'm over here checking out your page. I sent you a follow and you know.

    veohart
  • veohart01:49:01 PM

    Chicken things up.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:49:00 PM

    Okay so. Um.

    blue2black
  • ape_worldeth01:49:01 PM

    So.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:49:06 PM

    How are you? I I don't know. Maybe.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:49:08 PM

    I have to go now.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:49:12 PM

    You don't know me at all.

    ape_worldeth
  • blue2black01:49:24 PM

    Yes, baby. I was gonna come to you right now, so do please share. Um, I I if you want, I can quickly introduce you.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:49:56 PM

    Okay so banning Bama's doing a very interesting noble project where he's trying to sell an NFD and then but by me please do share the NFD that you are that I'm referring to now. And then basically through selling these entities they want to basically create an awareness for just how little animals are actually in the zoo in in Nigeria and the like the shocking.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:50:27 PM

    Kind of situation of, you know having a full zoo, but having just five animals in it and then kind of trying to create awareness of this and then through selling the nfts then create this fund that can then support the growth of these zoos to have more animals and have kind of a stability of food and basically just trying to create a general awareness and basically a support system for.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:50:32 PM

    These are animals in the zoo. So, Bambi, why didn't you tell us more about that now?

    blue2black
  • ape_worldeth01:50:40 PM

    Yes, yes, thank.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:50:44 PM

    This is blood for for.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:50:46 PM

    Shit.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:50:51 PM

    My walk is this project is that should needed apps and.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:50:59 PM

    This is speak loudly and wrong at work with different and videos diversities of.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:51:15 PM

    Which is launched. The brain behind this is launched to to cater for 1000 animals across 5 zoos in Nigeria. So I I create this.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:51:19 PM

    Because my love for animals and.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:51:29 PM

    But possibly in my society to get Tilly and NFD. That is why I thought, I can't do this.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:51:44 PM

    I need you guys. I need you up to this place. I need the energy community to just support me and make my vision and mission comes to perk to pass because.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:51:49 PM

    I miss Coach and I love animals. I love naked.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:52:13 PM

    Beautiful animals and I love everything about Wildlife Conservation and reservation. So I went to the zoo to document how the zoo is what is needed in the zoo and I put all in a video. So I pinched the video up that is me talking initially at the begin.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:52:19 PM

    So I I interview his guardian. I I met.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:52:39 PM

    And she told me some challenges battling the zoo, which she needs help, in which I would just say one or one of the problems he highlighted for me, he said when the life span of each of the animals.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:52:43 PM

    Is due and he died. They need.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:53:03 PM

    Support to the introduce some new species of animals into this and that is quite good and that would make it a standard and international zone. So it is the collection is up on open.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:53:31 PM

    0.01 on Ethereum blockchain. Yes. Thank you so much for having me. Bluetooth black. I I give kudos to you for all you have been doing, for all your support. And I love you, man. I love you, man. So thank you so much. Thanks a lot. And I can see Doctor Who in the building. Doctor Who is in the building. I can see a JJ is like a role model to me.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:53:36 PM

    And I love him so much. I I love this.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:53:41 PM

    Where does Infinity I can see?

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:53:56 PM

    Cold in the evening. Thank you so much for having me once again. I'm coming today. I'm from Nigeria. I'm open for question. If you have any question, any feedback, I'm open. Thank you so, so much.

    ape_worldeth
  • blue2black01:54:18 PM

    Always a pleasure. And we do wish you all the best in this is a very noble thing of you to try and do. And I, you know, The funny thing is, is that this is Africa and, you know, Africa should not be a place where you go and you don't see animals in the zoo. You know, this is the shocking part of it all. You know, it's like.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:54:49 PM

    You know, if you consider how many animals have already been removed from, you know, their natural habitat and how we are kind of encroaching on all of their territories. But we're not giving any spice to the animals. And, you know, we're not making sure that other societies in our next generation grow up with the knowledge of nature and, you know, the trivial things of just going to zoos then taken away. And that is something that.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:55:19 PM

    That is a noble quest. Survey me. I do wish you all the, all the best of luck in that. So I do want people to really be supportive of by me and you know, you know, show your love, show your support because it's a really noble thing of him that he's trying to do. So thank you, baby, for that. And then just wanted to say that to all the people you're a Doctor Who and all of you, thank you very much for being here tonight because you are the ones who are actually.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:55:34 PM

    Creating this experience of the spices because I see you around and I find so much wisdom in so many of you that I am truly kind of blessed to kind of have your presence here today to kind of contribute to.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:55:46 PM

    You know just have being able to kind of introduce you to the blue to black people and I just just I'm such a fan of all of you. So thank you very much for being here all of you and.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:55:49 PM

    Yeah, she's right.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:55:52 PM

    I what do you say?

    blue2black
  • shazres01:56:17 PM

    Yes, uh, I also just want to say, uh, thank you, blue to black for hosting this space. And you literally, like, it's so amazing. You give each and every artist their due importance. You listen to all of them so intently and with so much passion and like, you really make everyone feel really special. So I think that's amazing. You know what you do for artists over here?

    shazres
  • shazres01:56:21 PM

    So yeah, I think you you deserve the shout out.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:56:24 PM

    Well, I do have.

    blue2black
  • ape_worldeth01:56:28 PM

    Please, I'm sorry, a J.

    ape_worldeth
  • ape_worldeth01:56:31 PM

    I want to say something.

    ape_worldeth
  • shazres01:56:42 PM

    But I mean, I think you're, um, maybe the connection is?

    shazres
  • shazres01:56:45 PM

    There's no connection there.

    shazres
  • shazres01:56:48 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • blue2black01:56:50 PM

    Yeah, if I speak, then I'd influence my mic immediately.

    blue2black
  • shazres01:56:51 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • shazres01:56:56 PM

    Yeah.

    shazres
  • veohart01:57:06 PM

    Eddie.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:57:07 PM

    But yeah, buy me we have give you all the support that there is. And so I've got a question now. So now the guy that's next is this guy in a blue gap, but I have no idea how to say his name or how to even spell it.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:57:09 PM

    It's Eddie.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:57:11 PM

    Right, Eddie.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:57:13 PM

    It's Eddie.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:57:20 PM

    Okay, okay, Okay, okay now. Thanks for clearing that out because I was thinking that this is some languages.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:57:24 PM

    Impossible for me to read. So, Eddie.

    blue2black
  • blue2black01:57:25 PM

    Eddie.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:57:25 PM

    Yeah.

    veohart
  • veohart01:57:28 PM

    This is.

    veohart
  • blue2black01:57:37 PM

    Please tell us about your photography and your poetry and just your kind of side to art and give us the opportunity to kind of interpret you and your art if you don't matter, mind.

    blue2black
  • veohart01:58:07 PM

    I'd like I'd like to introduce Eddie. I've met Eddie in a few spaces with a buddy of mine with a friend of mine named Zeller. She's phenomenal and she does some space hosting and he has done some Co hosting in those spaces and he is amazing. I have met him and his poetry that he does is very impactful and I would absolutely love if he would come up and do one.

    veohart
  • veohart01:58:23 PM

    Of his poems and um, you know, share about himself and a little bit about what he's doing in this web three and, um, you know, just a little bit about him and what what he's got going on.

    veohart
  • veohart01:58:27 PM

    So hi, Eddie. How have you been?

    veohart
  • eddielee21_01:58:35 PM

    Thank you CC high blue to black high sharaz. OK, help me with your name, sweetheart.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_01:58:40 PM

    That.

    eddielee21_
  • shazres01:58:44 PM

    It's shazreen. You can call me Shaz. Shaz? Yeah, yeah.

    shazres
  • eddielee21_01:58:44 PM

    Chazerae, it's nice to you.

    eddielee21_
  • shazres01:58:51 PM

    It's all right. My name has been crucified since the day I was born, so it's okay. It's all good.

    shazres
  • eddielee21_01:58:57 PM

    I'm a little bit, I'm a little dyslexic so I was getting my R and my Z's mixed around so shazreen OK.

    eddielee21_
  • shazres01:58:59 PM

    Shaz, you can call me Shaz. Thank you, okay.

    shazres
  • eddielee21_01:59:30 PM

    You're welcome. And my name here is in Persian, that's why. Blue to black, that's why you was not understanding. Because I don't understand Persian either, but I know it's the Iranian native language, and I changed my name to show support from NASA Amini and made some sweets out in Persian. And that's thanks to Google Translate, because I'm an idiot and I only know English, but there's a lot of Iranian artists in the group in the room, actually.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:00:00 PM

    Data arts, pante blue chicks, if I'm mistaken. I'm sorry, but I'm trying to pay attention to all the Iranian artists because I know that the Internet is cut off there by the Islamic Republic, not by Iran, because there's a difference. And I know Ali was up here earlier and confusing everybody because blue to black, I think it's your accent. It's not your English saying Eddie and Ali and Addie and I totally get it.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:00:30 PM

    But that's just a little bit about my name. My name's Eddie. I'm a single father, I'm 42 years old, I live in Illinois, I'm a recovering drug addict, I'm a recovering alcoholic as well, and I have a 17 year old son that lives with me full time since he was two years old. And I like to use poetry when I am depressed. I write my thoughts out in my notepad on my phone and I like to take photography while I walk to help with my depression.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:01:01 PM

    While I'm listening to mainly rap music, so I love taking photography, I grow sunflowers because some flowers make me happy, so I had 280 sunflowers. Like I said, I'm a recovering addict, so I do things addictively SO280 sunflowers growing around my house in rural Greenup IL, and I recently I thank you for sending that up blue to black. That's my depression riding right there. That's my inner thoughts on how.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:01:11 PM

    The conversation goes when my depression starts talking shit to me. Apologise for my language, but my mic was thought so. If there's any kids in the crowd, put your ear muffs on, please.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:01:42 PM

    So that's just, that's a like almost a 3 minute read right there of how my depression speaks to me. And for National Depression Awareness Month, I have now listed all of those at .025. It's a large additions piece because I don't know what the hell I'm doing in an ft. I'm just doing the best that I can and the last one solely a .10 earth. And each person that's purchased one of those said they are never selling it. So like if you want to give an opportunity to.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:02:03 PM

    Pick one of those up to show support for depression. I would greatly appreciate it. I've listed them low because I would like for this month to have something trending on open sea that does not get trending and that's depression. We've been in the red too long. It's time to have a green candle on depression. So hopefully that kind of summed up a little bit about myself. Thank you for having the space.

    eddielee21_
  • blue2black02:02:04 PM

    Wait.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:02:06 PM

    There is this.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:02:17 PM

    Spam. That is coming and I can feel it. I can just feel it. So, Eddie, why don't you just please share us one of those poems?

    blue2black
  • eddielee21_02:02:34 PM

    OK, I'm not going to share that one because it's rather lengthy. I'm going to share the one that I'm currently in collaboration or in talks with collaboration and getting it translated into Hindi. And this one's called Mom's in space.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:02:38 PM

    The tiers and wines have been heard before.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:02:42 PM

    Our children don't realise how strong we are.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:02:47 PM

    The snacks and games will have to wait.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:02:51 PM

    Your future is relying on our artwork today.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:02:54 PM

    We want to give you the whole world.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:02:57 PM

    So Please be patient, our little boys and girls.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:03:01 PM

    For our time spent in this place.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:03:05 PM

    Shall be well worth it because my in space.

    eddielee21_
  • eddielee21_02:03:06 PM

    Poem.

    eddielee21_
  • blue2black02:03:15 PM

    No, that actually reminds me of so many different things. Um.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:03:43 PM

    But yes, it is really true. We are in an international community and I actually have taken the I actually wanted to bring the Iranian artist to the space tonight. I felt it was really important, but not in a trendy way, not in a in a hash tag way, not in a in a funny way, but just introduce them to the people, to the other artists, because I have really like.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:03:45 PM

    Just.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:03:46 PM

    Like?

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:04:18 PM

    Felt for them and I think that the world or really associating with them at the moment and that they really needed the blue to black voice. So I really wanted to kind of invite the Iranian artist here tonight to kind of give them an opportunity to just make the other people know that you are surrounded by the Iranian artist and they are there, they are influencing you, they are, you know, they're sharing your the same culture. We are kind of still all using the same technology.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:04:31 PM

    Essentially, you know, the things that makes us human is not the fact that we can all use a phone, but the fact that we can come together by using a phone. And, you know, that's the beauty about it. And This is why it's so important. And.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:04:43 PM

    Doctor Wu, you are so quiet, actually. Actually, you should consider yourself just part of the cars, because that's way too quiet for you, man. I think that that's that's just wrong. So please do inject whenever you feel like it.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:05:16 PM

    Just wanna say man, like so like even your in interpretation of of Massa's story is really important because that shows that the artists are actually taking responsibility for creating the awarenesses and you know, creating the the, the moods that are associated with this and whether it trends or not is besides the fact because you have to make it rent. It is our responsibility to make it trend. And essentially this is because.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:05:21 PM

    It's we understand and we have these people like.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:05:52 PM

    These artists right here in the panel that are able to actually just give us that insight and give us that, you know, just perspective, you know, and kind of show us that now we know somebody in Iran's. So now we have a personal investment. Now we have a friend that's in there that, you know, can that we have to support, that we have to have, you know, so, you know, just be there for. And that essentially is what it's all about. You know, it's not about politics or it is not politics. Art is not

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:05:54 PM

    Art is not sexuality. Art is art.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:06:06 PM

    Party is what we make it be, and essentially we will find our own community, we will find our own kind of spirituality and we will find our own rules of engagement. But.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:06:09 PM

    I've always and.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:06:22 PM

    This is why 80, why what you're doing is there's still a good thing. And I like the fact that you have emotion to your poem and that you know this mood and drama, and that is beautiful. And thank you for sharing that.

    blue2black
  • docwuwu02:06:25 PM

    Blue.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:06:32 PM

    You know, everybody has their own way of how they handle things or how they get involved.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:06:40 PM

    And I have to see a little bit about me, so you'll understand better from where I'm coming from.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:07:04 PM

    I'm not religious in anyway shape or form, and I really hate politics and because I think both of those things were invented to bring people like separate people and and cause them to fight each other. Whereas art and music, the only thing that art and music does is bring people together.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:07:18 PM

    I I what I do believe in is kindness is free, and I think we're all put on this Earth to help each other and to help somebody that's in need. I think that's just.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:07:33 PM

    You know, that's the way everybody should be. I've had people help me. I've helped other people. I'm also big on helping animals. I I support the local Humane Society with donations from the sales of my artwork.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:07:34 PM

    Ah.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:07:42 PM

    I had four dogs last month. Now I have three. I had to get one of them put to sleep because he was getting pretty sick and having a lot of fits.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:07:55 PM

    But I think as people like I, I realised as I get older I have more empathy for people because I think that was something that maybe was missing in me.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:07:56 PM

    But.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:08:04 PM

    We could all do our part. Sometimes it's a little bit sometimes it's easier to do things closer to home.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:08:17 PM

    And it's very frustrating when things like what's happening in Iran because it's a little bit harder for people to do things to affect it. I mean, there's still things you can do, but.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:08:25 PM

    I also believe in like when when it comes to charities I hear people on here talking about.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:08:30 PM

    They're giving to this charity and this charity and this charity and I think.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:08:49 PM

    We need to hold a space and have some experts come on and talk about charities in the proper way because where I live in Ontario, Canada, I can't just say, hey, I'm starting a charity today. No, they have laws against that because.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:09:20 PM

    You have to register properly. You have to give them reasons why you the the government. You know why the government should recognise you as a charity because some people unfortunately will take that money and just put it in their pockets. So what I tend to do, and I learned this from my father-in-law, he had to retire early from work because of an injury. He had too much time on his hands so he started helping out Easter Seals.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:09:29 PM

    And all these neat charities. But he soon realised that all the money that was coming from our local city, from people in the local city.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:09:51 PM

    You know, went to the head office here in the city and then they sent most of it to Toronto and it trickled back here a little bit. So he quit all those major charities because most of the money in those charities goes to the director or the 16 directors they have and all the people that work there in the office and stuff like that.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:10:22 PM

    Rather than going to, you know, what their purpose is supposed to be. So he started his own local charity and he made sure all the money stayed in our local city and he would do things like he hired a or didn't hire them. But he had a local retired teacher come to help him, and they would sit down every month and figure out okay, how much money you came in, what charities can we help? And he had a list of about, I think it was 13 different charities.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:10:29 PM

    They always gave money too, and then once in a while they would hear something about maybe a family. One of the children got hurt.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:10:36 PM

    And they would just show up at the door, knocking the door and hand them a check and.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:10:39 PM

    He did a lot more than.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:11:05 PM

    Working with these big organizations that were someplace else in the world, spending all the money on running the charity as opposed to helping the people or whatever the charity was for. So, you know, my biggest thing is we could all do something, and sometimes it's little, sometimes you can't. You don't have the money to give. That's okay. There's all kinds of other ways making NFT donate it to.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:11:14 PM

    You know an organization or the sales from that. There's all kinds of different ways we could all share ideas on things.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:11:15 PM

    And.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:11:18 PM

    I think that's all I have to say right now.

    docwuwu
  • blue2black02:11:24 PM

    Yeah, but you know.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:11:25 PM

    It's like.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:11:34 PM

    Essentially, artist is the media like paintings, just speaks in a longer way.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:12:05 PM

    Like you walk past it in all, it'll influence you, you know, whereas you have to sometimes read an article or you have to do this. But then again, it is somebody that's trying to in a skill of writing that is writing that. So it's also the artist that's influencing you. And sometimes those artists are just once again, they are commissioned artists and they have this perspective that they are sharing and the true perspective or sometimes hidden in between, you know, and.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:12:33 PM

    You have to help each other, but you have to be realistic in how you can help. You know, essentially, last thing I want is for anybody to walk around with the bloody nose from just being associated with blue to black. That's not the intentions. So essentially it's about finding a way, but finding an academic way, finding a solution, finding, you know, just empathy and sympathy can help, but it can only help that much in the end of the day.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:13:00 PM

    It's all about making it personal. And this is what artists do the best. They know how to convey emotions and they know how to, you know, make it personal. And this is what we can achieve as artists. We can make it personal, we can have these international discussions and we can make it personal. And this is what the voice of an international, really community should be about, it should be about.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:13:08 PM

    Voicing what we feel as humanity, what we feel is needed as humanity and you know.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:13:22 PM

    We all need water, you know? We all need clean, bloody water. So why don't we just fight for that, you know? I mean, there's so much more that we can fight for in the end of the day, but.

    blue2black
  • docwuwu02:13:26 PM

    You know what?

    docwuwu
  • blue2black02:13:28 PM

    I don't say that we have to go and do a revolution, you know.

    blue2black
  • docwuwu02:13:36 PM

    Blue, you. You know where I live? I live right next door. I can. It's not even 2 minutes away for me to touch it.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:13:44 PM

    I live right next door to the largest freshwater lake in the world. It's called Lake Superior.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:14:03 PM

    And that's where we all get our water from. And I, I see in the future, big time, there's not going to be wars about gas and things like that. It'll be wars against water, because everybody needs water everyday to live, to survive, survive.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:14:25 PM

    And I can see in the future there's going to be huge wars and things going on like that just over fresh water. I mean, I'm very lucky to be where I live in in Canada and I'm very lucky that I just recently retired last year because I worked for 40 years at the same place, which is a 5 minute drive from my house.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:14:26 PM

    But.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:14:30 PM

    You know, it's like they said.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:14:34 PM

    What people need to do, they can do nothing at all.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:14:39 PM

    Whether it's local or on a global basis, or.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:14:52 PM

    Do the least that they can. At least do something, because we could all ignore people's stories. Don't listen to them. Leave the space when people are talking about importance topics.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:14:53 PM

    Or.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:15:18 PM

    Just listening sometimes helps and you get educated that way. I got a good education when I first got into NFT back in December, was talking to a young lad from the Philippines and I bought one of one of his NT because I thought it was so cool. But he only charged me 5 bucks and I got into and then he told me he said I'm going to make you another one for free because you bought one off me.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:15:21 PM

    And I said to him, I said, why would you do that?

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:15:37 PM

    I said I don't think you're charging enough for your nfts. I said you should be charging like $30 or more. And the more we got talking, he educated me about $5 to him in the Philippines. That's a lot of money.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:15:45 PM

    And here I'm thinking I said, yeah, you know, like $5 to me here where I am in Canada. That's not a lot of money.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:16:03 PM

    And then I said, well, why? Why aren't you charging more? And he says, well, people aren't going to pay that kind of money here in the Philippines and they're not going to pay that kind of money for art. I said, you're not selling your art to people. You're NT to people in the Philippines. You're selling them to everybody in the whole world. That's your market.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:16:11 PM

    And then you got talking about like to buy a house in the Philippines is like for $3000 you can buy a whole house.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:16:19 PM

    And I went, wow, because, you know, again, that opened my mind again because I thought, well, my house is worth probably close to about 400 grand.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:16:28 PM

    And and here he's talking about buying a whole house for three grand in the Philippines and the more we got talking.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:16:44 PM

    There's a lot of things that I realised and he got back to me about three months later. Now we're we're good friends, we talk all the time, stay in touch and he's doing really well. He raised the prices of his NFT, he sold lots of NFT S now.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:17:08 PM

    He's got a little boy now and he's doing very well for himself. And the last message he sent me was, you know, thank you for your advice. I mean, I can't tell anybody what to sell their NFT for, but I can give them my humble opinion because I see a lot of people not selling their their artwork. Amazing artwork for enough.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:17:16 PM

    You know, I and I suggest to them you should raise your price, but they don't have to because it's just my humble opinion. I'm not.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:17:18 PM

    Go ahead.

    docwuwu
  • blue2black02:17:39 PM

    But essentially this is exactly what I also feel is partly the responsibility of having the ability to discuss these type of things. You know, for instance a normal normalised standard for NFD on a global scale. Wouldn't that also, you know, develop the world in a global scale then as well?

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:17:45 PM

    No.

    blue2black
  • docwuwu02:17:51 PM

    Well, you know, a lot of people, again, they don't understand why some people sell their entities for so cheap.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:17:58 PM

    Where maybe $50.00 a month is is good money in certain countries? I'm sure it is.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:18:03 PM

    Whereas where I am that would that wouldn't be considered.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:18:06 PM

    You know, good money for a month's wages.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:18:13 PM

    But it starts to open your eyes that all the different living standards that are all over the world.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:18:34 PM

    And and we all have friends on spaces. I've met like hundreds if not probably thousands of people now since I've been been on spaces. All kinds of amazing artists, some that can barely afford, you know, some of them are painters. They can barely afford the brushes and the paints to do their work. So they find some other way of making art.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:18:44 PM

    And it's it opens your mind big time, especially when you get to talk to the people. You hear their voice. We can't see each other.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:19:05 PM

    But you can hear it in your voice. You can hear the the passion for their art or, you know, they're happy that they made a sale today and maybe, maybe they only got a dollar for that nsft. But that's a lot of money to them. And I I think it's like an awareness thing as well that we all need to realise.

    docwuwu
  • blue2black02:19:32 PM

    I just think that, you know, the digital domain have created this borderless world where you really can travel and be with all these different people and all these different friends at this very moment. Here I am chilling with Doctor Who, I'm chilling with Shazier, I am chilling with Cynthia, I'm chilling with Eddie, I'm chilling with shakers. You know, it's amazing. It's just.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:20:02 PM

    Like, the actual enjoyment of itself is an experience. And it really is a worthy experience if if, if it's like, like this, this kind of thing where they say, like, if you want to write a good book, then you have to kind of like populate it with the people who you want to have dinner with. You know, if you had like, this big asshole and, you know, you can sit down like 20 people, you know, who would be the people that you go?

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:20:19 PM

    And have dinner with who will be those people that, you know, you sit around the table and, you know, discuss stuff with, you know, and this is what we're having here, you know, we're having this kind of table and we can call it a nice round table, you know. And you Doctor Who, you can be Lancelot for the moment, you know?

    blue2black
  • docwuwu02:20:42 PM

    You know, I'll tell you something, a quick little thing, very quick. I discovered that we had birds. We were giving the the birds and that sunflower seeds and they would knock some of the sunflower seeds out of the feeder onto the ground. Then what happened? We started getting these beautiful huge sunflower plants.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:20:52 PM

    And the one thing I didn't know about sunflower plants is I would go to work here about 6:00 o'clock in the morning and be pretty cool still in the summer.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:21:12 PM

    And then I went up to the sunflowers and I saw all the bees inside and the bees were like sleeping in them. And then what would happen is when it warmed up during the day, they would go back to work. And I thought, wow, you know, I never thought about it because I have all these other flowers in the back of my yard and the sunflower seeds were by accident.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:21:44 PM

    And since then, I've talked to Eddie, and we all know Eddie's a poet, but Eddie Big in the sunflowers, and so we had a poor cut of season for them this year, so we didn't get too many. But next year I I've got a great big backyard. I want to go and plow it, and all I want to plant plant is the sunflower seeds. I've got all the other wild flowers in the back, and there's another one, I think it's called milk wood for the monarch butterflies. That's what I'm putting in my back.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:21:54 PM

    Word so this is just another way, because we all know the story. Without the bees, well, soon there's not gonna be any food, you know, for the people.

    docwuwu
  • docwuwu02:22:03 PM

    And but that here's one of the neat things I learned about Eddie, besides being a great poet. He's he grows sunflowers like, like crazy.

    docwuwu
  • blue2black02:22:07 PM

    Yeah, I know. Um.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:22:12 PM

    So coming back to the panel so.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:22:32 PM

    I'd actually like Saeed Saeed or to quickly introduce herself and just tell us about your art a little bit and who you are as a person and kind of give us this little, this insight kind of look into you and your culture.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:22:35 PM

    Saida.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:22:41 PM

    Uh, saeeda, can you hear me?

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:22:46 PM

    Shall try. Would you try and call her there for me?

    blue2black
  • shazres02:22:48 PM

    Yeah. Hi, sada.

    shazres
  • shazres02:22:54 PM

    I think, um, maybe she's not there.

    shazres
  • blue2black02:22:58 PM

    OK, pantiya.

    blue2black
  • shazres02:22:59 PM

    Yeah, we can listen to bantya.

    shazres
  • khosravipantea02:23:02 PM

    Hi, how are you?

    khosravipantea
  • khosravipantea02:23:16 PM

    You know cider and we are, we have the same nationality, we are from Iran and I guess she got rocked and sorry for that.

    khosravipantea
  • khosravipantea02:23:43 PM

    But if you let me, I can pin one of her artworks and I know how much she needs support these days, because she her wallet got hacked about two days ago and she lost about $200.

    khosravipantea
  • khosravipantea02:23:55 PM

    But I guess she got rocked now and she can't promote herself. If let me, I can pin her artwork.

    khosravipantea
  • veohart02:24:02 PM

    Please, please pin her stuff.

    veohart
  • khosravipantea02:24:05 PM

    Sure, sure.

    khosravipantea
  • veohart02:24:55 PM

    It's quiet in here, so hi everybody. While we're waiting for everything to be pen, I'm like, woah, it's quiet. Um, how is everybody doing? Ohh. Hey Cedric, I see you snuck in here. Hi buddy. How are you?

    veohart
  • ajadudraws02:25:02 PM

    Were you talking to me?

    ajadudraws
  • veohart02:25:07 PM

    Hi, Jay. If you wanna say hi too, I'll say hi to you.

    veohart
  • ajadudraws02:25:22 PM

    Ohh sorry, I think I'm little Rob who's speaking. I can see blue cheek speakers on view art on Shazam is kind of like on. So please who?

    ajadudraws
  • veohart02:25:25 PM

    I'm. I'm bail heart. You can also call me. See? See?

    veohart
  • ajadudraws02:25:30 PM

    OK, CC hi.

    ajadudraws
  • veohart02:25:55 PM

    Hi, you know me as CC dabs down there, that pretty pink. I also usually have a little blue woofy that you guys actually typically know me as. But, um, I'm actually up here representing my my art, my art company right now, my my little art thing I got going so that that. Yep, that's why I'm up here. What's up, AJ?

    veohart
  • ajadudraws02:26:01 PM

    No, I'm just no reason my hands being cute because I've not been called to speak.

    ajadudraws
  • veohart02:26:06 PM

    Well, I'm speaking. I'm calling on you.

    veohart
  • ajadudraws02:26:14 PM

    I'm I'm a little confused, very hard. You're not the whole study course, so.

    ajadudraws
  • blue2black02:26:20 PM

    Yes.

    blue2black
  • blue2black02:26:24 PM

    Yeah.

    blue2black
  • veohart02:26:28 PM

    Yo I'm the Co host. I'm Co host without cohost like Button because he sent it out and somebody didn't like accept it. So I'm cohost like go I'm ghost host.

    veohart
  • cedricfangeat02:26:32 PM

    Unless you see, that's so cool.

    cedricfangeat
  • ajadudraws02:26:34 PM

    Ohh.

    ajadudraws
  • eddielee21_02:26:39 PM